/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3545070]

Everyone talking to beginners says that it's imperative to have "clean, single lines" to "avoid quick sketches" but then I see stuff like this, from a world-class anime like Evangelion.

What's the truth? Is primary sketching like this helpful? Expedient? The way a lot of art teachers talk it would seem like preliminary sketches need to be cleaner than this.

[Anonymous No.3545078]

>>3545070
Thats a storyboard anon.

[Anonymous No.3545081]

I find it hard to believe that you're talking about "everyone", because only a massive fucking retard will tell a beginner to avoid quick sketches.

Making messy sketches is the best way to figure things out, and that will lead to "clean, single lines" because you came to an understanding of what you're drawing.

Also, preliminary sketches in storyboards, concept art, etc. are always messy; there's no reason to be clean and neat when you're trying to get things done quickly, or your idea gets thrown out the window entirely.

[Anonymous No.3545084]

>>3545070
You claim that but I've never seen anyone say that here. I would say its important to have confident lines, and you can see that in the third panel clearly

[Anonymous No.3545085]

>>3545078
this.

[dampf No.3545086]

>>3545070
thats the" overworked japanese artist that has drawn half a million of those faces" style. can you really compare it to yourself?

[Anonymous No.3545098]

>>3545070
only begs say that, as a painter you don't even degrade yourself to use lines, but you immediately work with shapes and build a silhouette.

[Anonymous No.3545115]

>>3545070
>op doesn't know what storyboards are

shiggydiggy

[Anonymous No.3545117]

>>3545070
just draw already

[Anonymous No.3545119]

>>3545070
The point it not that you should have clean, single lines, but that you shouldn't use chicken-scratching.
Look at your image again, those are long, confident lines, drawn with the shoulder or elbow, not short scribbly lines drawn with the wrist.
Preliminary sketches don't have to be clean, they just need to convey a general idea for later refinement.

[Anonymous No.3545120]

>>3545070
bruh that OP picture is a storyboard, it's not supposed to be pretty, it's just supposed to display a quick idea for a shot in a show.

[Anonymous No.3545133]

>>3545098
>degrade yourself to use lines
Nah, that's just shit tier digital "painters" like you who think like that. Traditional painting requires high amounts of draftmanship due to the fact that you can't just infintely paint over your mistakes. There is no painter who wouldn't first do a drawing for anything that is more complex than a portrait or natural landscape type of thing.

[Anonymous No.3545154]

>>3545070
>What's the truth? Is primary sketching like this helpful? Expedient? The way a lot of art teachers talk it would seem like preliminary sketches need to be cleaner than this.

How about you just stop being a stupid bitch and start drawing. See your work, and go about fixing it from there. Do this, and you'll have your answer.

[Anonymous No.3545291]

If you're talking about chicken scratching, this isn't it, this is just loose sketching.

[Anonymous No.3545531]

>>3545070

[Anonymous No.3545535]

I'm just gonna assume this post happened because it's summer

[Anonymous No.3545661]

How do you learn to storyboard and create stories?

[Anonymous No.3545667]

>>3545291
^that
they tell you that so when you go to do line art it doesnt look like chicken scratching shit. after you get the good lines then you can do loose sketching and know how the final lines will look.

[Anonymous No.3545675]

>>3545070
Being clean comes with confidence and knowledge of the subject. Don't try to be a 1 pixel virgin when starting out.

[Anonymous No.3545693]

>>3545661
you get contracted to make an anime

then your head starts splitting about how the fuck you'll go about that

storyboards is a good start, as good as any at least

[Anonymous No.3545857]

>>3545070
You don't understand.
Sketching with many lines is fine.
Sketching with few lines made up of lots of shitty lines is bad.
>>3545531 summed it up perfectly

[Anonymous No.3546159]

>>3545070
there's a difference between sketchy and unclean linework

[Anonymous No.3546181]

>>3545070
>Everyone talking to beginners says that it's imperative to have "clean, single lines" to "avoid quick sketches"

That's because those are beginners and clueless anime fags talking to other beginners...

No seriously.

[Anonymous No.3546186]

>>3545070
i think i lost a few brain cells reading that

[Anonymous No.3546188]

>>3545070
that's really good bait actually, good job. like the fact that it's a story board, and that no-one says that, like it covers the whole gamut of irritation. gj

[Anonymous No.3546232]

>>3546159
Are you the guy that draws the lwa h*ntai?

[Anonymous No.3546248]

>>3545070
That's that profesional drawing 6 drawings per minute. Not your shitty drawing that you spend half a day on.

Begginers like to latch on to work made by profesionals in the worst posible coonditions in a hurry and compare it to things they spent an entire week working on.
Stop this, for fucks sake.

[Anonymous No.3546253]

>>3545070

repeatedly trying to get a single stroke is different than stitching together a single line with piecemeal strokes see:
>>3545531

[Anonymous No.3546889]

how do you practice getting confident lines?

[Anonymous No.3547091]

>>3546889
Drawabox has some great excercises for line quality.

[Anonymous No.3547096]

>>3547091
I already did the first tutorial. I want something more.

[Anonymous No.3547115]

>>3547096
Get a brush pen and yolo every line. No taksies backsies.

[Anonymous No.3547557]

>>3546232
maybe

[Anonymous No.3547591]

>>3547557
yay

[Anonymous No.3548617]

>>3545531
>>3546159
>>3546253
i see now.