/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3538037]

>girls are taking over our art jobs

the younger they are, the more followers,exposure and orbiters they get. Pic related is 14 apparently, tags every ask with "pretty people asking", and those silly normies fall for it

so what are you gonna do now gents? more and more of these artsy girls will surface, and more and more of that patreon money will flow towards them instead of you

[Anonymous No.3538065]

>>3538037
>so what are you gonna do now gents? more and more of these artsy girls will surface, and more and more of that patreon money will flow towards them instead of you
Yeah, if it wasn't for a bunch of teenage girls i would've been a millionaire, DAMN THEM!

Get real my dude.

[Anonymous No.3538071]

>>3538037
i dont know where to start with you, shitter-kun
>threatened by a 14yo
>threatened by a crappy generic tumblr drawing
>threatened by tumblr notes

[Anonymous No.3538077]

What do notes actually do? I think it’s a good idea to post stuff on every platform strategically?

[Anonymous No.3538088]

>>3538077
tumblr notes are the equivalent of brazilian currency

[Anonymous No.3538091]

>>3538088
Ah, so nothing.

[Anonymous No.3538094]

>>3538088
pretty much. its the same kind of system as reddit or 9gag or any upvote/downvote kinda thing. and people will throw follows your way as long as you fit the bill, any bill. especially the 'style' in the OP.
Walking down artist alley at any con you'll pass by all sorts of artist that have similar drawings and you'll realize that holy heck, these people have like thousands of followers on tumblr, probably, and they're out here peddling pins.

[Anonymous No.3538103]

Art is fundamentally about competence. Having a vagina might give you some low level advantages (or in some cases even a job) but cunny can only do so much.

[Anonymous No.3538104]

Well, I'm an architect so 14 yo tumblr girls can't really compete.


Inb4 jinxed it

[Anonymous No.3538108]

If you're trying to get us to spam her askbox, you're going to have to try a little harder than that, anon.

[Anonymous No.3538109]

>>3538104
>an anime where all the clients, architects, builders, and critics are all lolis

[Anonymous No.3538113]

>>3538104
are you an actual architect? or just a student, because i need a job.

[Anonymous No.3538118]

>>3538037
Stop being insecure and focus on yourself you big baby.

[Anonymous No.3538130]

>>3538037
Git gud

[Anonymous No.3538136]

>>3538037
patreon money ain't gonna get them on a higher than a minimum wage salary. im going a research electric engineering position anyways, while drawing as a hobby. gonna shower in money boy.

[Anonymous No.3538138]

>>3538037
Do you even draw?

I bet you are one of those saltwater crabs who is stuck drawing boxes and endless gestures on scrap paper lmao

[Anonymous No.3538147]

Pretend I'm a girl. Duh.

[Anonymous No.3538150]

>>3538138
>I bet you are one of those saltwater crabs who is stuck drawing boxes and endless gestures on scrap paper

Not OP but dude, that literally me, right in the fucking fundies.
I guess that confirms it, ngmi.

[Anonymous No.3538174]

Jealous? Just be better than her (in the art AND the marketing aspects)

[Anonymous No.3538176]

I did this at 14 too
it's really not that hard
and yes I'm a girl lol

[Anonymous No.3538188]

>>3538113
Alright I exaggerated a bit, just a student for now.

[Anonymous No.3538189]

women have always gravitated towards the arts, in fact animation schools are 70% women now

[Anonymous No.3538191]

>>3538109
Anime is for faggots but I think I would watch

[Anonymous No.3538198]

>>3538176
you better have been 14 in 2014.

[Anonymous No.3538202]

Im a 22 yo black nigga but my online persona is a 13 years old girl

Everything is good to make some cash

[Anonymous No.3538205]

>>3538202
That's not in the game

[Anonymous No.3538570]

>>3538088
>>3538091
>>3538094
>low tes artists

guess you ain't really popular eh

[Anonymous No.3538573]

>he's not roleplaying as a wunderkind to get more likes
ngmi

[Anonymous No.3538578]

>>3538071
now I know why you have a small peepee incel-chan. Artsy girls don't like that

[Anonymous No.3538580]

>>3538108
>women are taking over gaming

tehy terkin our stream spots

[Anonymous No.3538581]

>>3538202
>black nigga

phew

[Anonymous No.3538588]

It's quite simple, really. Either pass yourself as a cute Trap (find a generic camwhore pic and call it a boy) or use an anime avatar. Before you know it you would have attracted a couple of beta orbiters yourself but the ones that will help you make mad dosh are those who ask for your dickpics and THAT'S when you know it is time to set up a paywall.

[Anonymous No.3538589]

>>3538103
You sure don't have this kind of online presence with shitty doodles that take 30min. Op is right in that regard, heck nowadays there are industry studios and companies who only hire females because of the "atmosphere" aka cis trip bosses having a harem of females under their belt and playing the cringey alpha faggot.

Be real, if you run from this fact your means of making money via art will go under, just like any male twitch streamer who is trying to break out into the field nowadays.

[Anonymous No.3538598]

>>3538037
It’s hilarious trying to imagine a bunch of greasy 20-30 year olds getting mad at a 14 year old girl that’s better than them. Just git gud you manchild

[Anonymous No.3538599]

>>3538589
very easy for male twitch streamer just crossdress on cam

[Anonymous No.3538603]

>>3538589

Wow, that's some...crazy ideas you have there, thinking that higher tumblr notes equal a better job opportunity. You must be that one person at work that no one wants to talk to.

[Anonymous No.3538624]

>>3538037
that just means more artist girlfriends for people which is not bad

[Anonymous No.3538631]

>>3538624
*for attractive people.

[Anonymous No.3538660]

>>3538037
I'm happy more of our youth is getting interested in a skillful and meaningful hobby. Art is a noble pursuit and I feel nothing but pride in our society for fostering the talents of our future.

[Anonymous No.3538664]

>>3538037
>money
>followers
im not in it for either of those

[Anonymous No.3538685]

>>3538664
Same but not gonna lie, having people recognize your art is good
and getting paid for it is a nice addition even when you get neetbux

[Anonymous No.3538705]

>>3538037
>#prettypeopleasking?
What?

[Anonymous No.3538714]

>>3538685
then stop copying anime

[Anonymous No.3538722]

>Girls

It's grown men pretending to be girls for the money and followers. Trust me I do it too and it works.

[Anonymous No.3538725]

>>3538202
based

[Anonymous No.3538727]

>>3538722
>>3538202
give us some tips
what websites

[Anonymous No.3538731]

>>3538727
Smart nigga here.
I do it on twitter
just use ^^ + emojis and post sometimes pictures of cute food and cute pets

[Anonymous No.3538738]

>>3538731
does twitter pay you if you have enough followers? I don't know normie social media

[Anonymous No.3538743]

>>3538727
Tumblr, patreon, twitterm and hentai sites. I do hentai stuff and when those basedboy incel beta males read "I'm a X (can't tell you how old I claim to be in case I could get found out) year old girl from Y (can't tell you where I claim to be from because I could get found out), and I love making hentai drawing and animations" they eat that shit up.

Not making enough to live on my own but I'm a NEET and I'm comfortable with what I'm making and better off than working minimum wage at McDonald's or another wageslave job. I give half to my folks (and tell them it's from this or that so they don't know I draw and animate porn for money online, they're Jewish hehe). to keep them happy and the rest I spent freely on stuff like videogames, better gear, PC upgrades, anime figurines, and whatever I want.

The only hiccups are when one of those incels wants to voice chat or get on webcam to talk, or when they want pictures of the girl I pretend to be. I just find excuses or whatever. We both benefit so it's better to not let them know that I am a fat hairy NEET Jew instead of a cute blonde young girl.

Now do what I say and go get that money boys.

[Anonymous No.3538745]

>>3538743
larper detected

[Anonymous No.3538752]

>>3538745
Not a LAPR buddy boyo. I can't prove I'm legit but I have no reason to lie.

Just try it yourself. Make two patreons, two twitters, and two tumblr blogs. In one you pretend to be female and in the other one you pretend to be yourself.

It just works. If you don't wanna get paid then don't do it faggot.

[Anonymous No.3538756]

>>3538752
being a female def gets you more traction I just don't think youre gud enough at art to get paid

[Anonymous No.3538758]

>>3538743
Based

[Anonymous No.3538783]

>>3538756
>I just don't think youre gud enough at art to get paid
I'm not. I don't get paid nearly enough to get my own place and my own everything. But it's spending money that I use freely. Also I trace my shit fufufu~, so you're right I'm not gud nuff at art.

[Anonymous No.3538786]

>>3538743
based

[Anonymous No.3538795]

>>3538037
This is interesting because the top three creators on Patreon in the art category are male.

>WLOP - 3619 patrons
>Printable Heroes - 2979 patrons ($8,188/month)
>Ross Tran - 1963 patrons

A good idea is a good idea anon, and the most successful, compelling ideas get the most money. Being female certainly plays into the novelty of the art, but talking from my experience, being female hasn't done me any favors. Then again I just draw casually so that could be why I have such a small follower count. Or maybe I just can't draw for shit.

As soon as I moved from regular art to pony art, my popularity boosted. So maybe it's less about being female, and more about what you draw while being a female.

[Anonymous No.3538800]

>>3538795
>So maybe it's less about being female, and more about what you draw while being a female.
Exactly. Get into drawing porn and watch the incelbux roll in. If you post your face and shit out there you'll get even more attention and money.

[Anonymous No.3538801]

>>3538037
A good idea is a good idea anon, and the most successful, compelling ideas get the most money. Being female certainly plays into the novelty of the art, but talking from my experience, being female hasn't done me any favors. Then again I just draw casually so that could be why I have such a small follower count. Or maybe I just can't draw for shit.

As soon as I moved from regular art to pony art, my popularity boosted. So maybe it's less about being female, and more about what you draw while being a female.

[Anonymous No.3538804]

>>3538800
Whoops, sorry for deleting that. I realized it was stupid to bring up the top three creators on Patreon when in reality their success means shit because Patreon is female artist dominated. But maybe if I draw more porn I'll get the big bucks.

[Anonymous No.3538810]

>>3538037

You could perhaps try not to have a target audience of 14y olds. Gross.

[Anonymous No.3538853]

>>3538037
Its because women know how to market themselves vs men who think that passion is all you need to succeed.

[Anonymous No.3538857]

>>3538037
what's stopping you from pretending to be a 14 year old girl

[Anonymous No.3539479]

>mfw just hid my gender in every social (art) media I have

Do I have to be explicit about being a girl or can I just hide the fact that I'm a dude?

If anything I can just use my gf to pose as me, right? Shit, I feel stupid for not thinking about it earlier.

[Anonymous No.3539485]

>>3539479
I mean, after a month or 2 you will realize that there is literally no difference whatsoever, but then you are kind of stuck pretending you're a girl forever.

[Anonymous No.3539488]

>>3539479
If you do it, make sure your gf wont know about it.
I actually made profile on pathreon with pics of my gf, during streams I am using voice changer and screen only shows what I am drawing.
Making 6k€ monthly from pathreon and commissions, my greatest fear my gf find out what I did and expose me, the only reason I am still with her is because of her pics I need for the profile.

[Anonymous No.3539495]

>>3539488
Holy shit, my sides. Well played, anon.
Actually if I got enough money like you my gf wouldn't give a single fuck because we would be able to marry and move out. What program do you use for voice changer? Also you must have a very feminine hand for streams, right? Did you state that you're a girl right from the beginning?

>>3539485
You sure? I mean, there's always those sweet betabux from guys who ALWAYS pays, even if the art is shit, just because it's a girl.
I'm not saying my art is shit, but I'm saying that it appears to have more room to get comfortable, you know?

[Anonymous No.3539497]

"Oh no woe is me, only girls can be popular, it's totally out of my hands, if only I was born with a vagina instead of a penis. Clearly this has nothing to do with the fact that my art is boring as fuck and all I do is post shitty photo studies."

Is there anything more pathetic than "men" who blame their failure on their gender? How delusional can you be? Especially when you have countless of examples of male patreon top earners and male artists with huge social media followings.

[Anonymous No.3539503]

>>3539495
>You sure? I mean, there's always those sweet betabux from guys who ALWAYS pays, even if the art is shit, just because it's a girl.
Maybe if you are so bad at art that you can't even imagine to ever get hired by a real client, or go to conventions, or make and sell video tutorials, get interviewed by someone etc. Otherwise, that lie would become so fucking expensive over time. Like, you basically have to sacrifice ever having a real art career for making a couple hundred bucks a month on Patreon.

[Anonymous No.3539507]

>>3539495
>Actually if I got enough money like you my gf wouldn't give a single fuck because we would be able to marry
And if shit go sour she will ruing what you build, not fucking worth risking.

> Also you must have a very feminine hand for streams, right?
I do but then, despite being 34 yo once in a while I am being asked for ID when buying beer, in addition I have feminine voice by default, every time I or someone else calls me, they address me as female, shit happened so often I even stopped correcting them.

>Did you state that you're a girl right from the beginning?
At the beginning I made a profile where I hid my personal details hoping my art take on its own, it didnt.
At the time I was pretending to be a grill online, my friends knew I was a dude and we had laughs when I on the whole server I could ask for ammo for MG or laying artillery on particular position or ask for assistance on cap point and people would always rush in to help and try to hit on me.
Later I started receiving gifts in TF and vidya on steam so just as the last fuck you b4 closing my profile I became a kinky 19 yo who loves dirty humour and dont afraid to talk about loving it in the ass.
Shit works like catnip, I am also fairly certain I am not the only one doing it...

As to the software, since I am using default preset with a small customisation, I dont want it to go public, would be weird if people started to sound like me.
Good thing you bought it up, I guess I need to play with sliders and then say something about mic change because thats a fucking chink in my armor.

Just pick whatever you want most of them have female preset for better or worse.

[Anonymous No.3539524]

>>3539503
>Maybe if you are so bad at art that you can't even imagine to ever get hired by a real client
Well, they would be hiring for the art, no? And besides, nothing stops me from making a real profile for my real art when I decide to go big (because right now I'm not interested, really).

>or go to conventions
This is the thing that I don't ever want to do.

>or make and sell video tutorials
I can also make this as a man, after all, the video is what's important (>implying i would have anything interesting or different to teach).

>get interviewed by someone
I definetly know that wouldn't happen. Except for some digital one, and that applies the same rule of everything else: Type or filter.

I'm just intending to get some porn money. It's not like I'm trying to build my full career on art through a fake profile. Honestly if I could get just a couple hundred would already help me a bunch.


>>3539507
>every time I or someone else calls me, they address me as female
Well, I guess there's still hope then, because that also happens with me.

Also, thanks so much for the infos, it helped a lot and I'll probably start using more feminine descriptions and search around for a good voice filter!

[Anonymous No.3539532]

>>3538037
>more of that patreon money will flow towards them instead of you
Good thing my follower base is completely different, I ain't competing against them.

[Anonymous No.3539539]

>>3538731
this is not smart this is sad nigga

[Anonymous No.3539547]

>>3538037
Have some integrity, man. If you get outplayed by a teenage girl, you don't deserve to be professional artist.
Now grab that pencil and beat every last one of them with raw skill

[Anonymous No.3539589]

>>3539497
>Is there anything more pathetic than "men" who blame their failure on their gender?

Oh no, one gender blaming the other??? That never happens besides this case. I mean imagine if that were a staple in todays culture or something. We'd probably think its normal and not pathetic at all! Hohoho.

[Anonymous No.3539593]

>>3539524
>>every time I or someone else calls me, they address me as female
>Well, I guess there's still hope then, because that also happens with me.
hey, me too, feels so strange to be called the mrs. version of my language

[Anonymous No.3539601]

>>3539524
>I'm just intending to get some porn money
>Honestly if I could get just a couple hundred would already help me a bunch.

Then you really shouldn't bother with this elaborate scheme to pretend you are a woman because there are countless of male porn artists making a couple hundred bucks a month easily. No one gives a shit if you are male or female when it comes to drawing porn.

[Anonymous No.3539650]

>>3539589
kek

[Anonymous No.3539674]

>>3538631
nah i don't think a girl that spend her free time drawing is shallow like that. focusing your time on drawing isn't really something chad girls do

[Anonymous No.3540505]

>>3539479
Just say you don't want to be judged for your gender and just hide behind "witty" answers to avoid answering the question. Literally everyone will assume you're female.

[Anonymous No.3540558]

>>3538202
this desu
im a 19 year old black anon
and i have several different accounts with several types of porn/art that i post on each one, i make sure there are no connections between each of my artist names cause i like to cover my tracks
i have a total of 5 different artist accounts
#1 for furry/trap porn and i pretend to be a 16 year old trans girl
#2 is for professional work and concept art where i am just myself
#3 is for shitty instagram mummble rapper fan pics i pretend to be a 17 year old ''up and coming'' artist/rapper (i dont actually make music)
#4 is for my own personnel porn collection for my unique fetishes i have absolutely no public info on this one
#5 is for extremely degenerate tier deviantart porn where im a 15 year old furry girl

[Anonymous No.3540595]

>>3538801
Because it goes down to the irony that men are actually better than girls in art. Even better at behaving and vocally replicating girls that the legitimate born girls. It's always too good to be true when a girl is really good at porn art or cutesy images as it always turns out to be some dude. Wouldn't be surprised that r*dditor artists are aware of this and becomes memed to the point that legitimate female artists will be seething.

[Anonymous No.3540603]

>>3540595
Men are better at creating an appealing woman, because women have been conditioned by modern society that if they are or act demure and chaste and innocent, that they're oppressed victims.

Japanese women understand this. All you have to do as a woman to be appealing is not be an abject, foul-mouthed whore.

[Anonymous No.3540627]

>>3540603
u gonna post work?

[Anonymous No.3540656]

>>3538202
>>3540558

These nigga know whats up

[Anonymous No.3540658]

>>3539674
> nah i don't think a girl that spend her free time drawing is shallow like that. focusing your time on drawing isn't really something chad girls do


Lol. You know little about how petty and shallow most girls are; regardless of occupation. And why shouldnt they?

Let us put ot this way: You are (presumably) an artist. You devote yourself to art. You seek intellectual partners who share that interest.

Would you settle for an autistic hambeast with bad hygiene and an attitide because she draws degenerate porn for you?

[Anonymous No.3540695]

I have been a 14 year old girl on the internet for almost 20 years by now

[Anonymous No.3540697]

>>3540658
>autistic hambeast with bad hygiene
stop projecting nigga
girls like porn too. all types of girls.

[Anonymous No.3540700]

>>3538202
i'm a 25 year old male, but my reblog blog and my art blog resemble that of your typical rich new york art girl.

the weirdest thing is probably getting follows and like-spammed by fetish blogs run by men. sometimes i get the same treatment by lesbians. truly, truly bizarre experience for me.

i admit, i like it. it means i'm nailing the aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.3540704]

>>3540700
theyre not lesbians they are men pretending to be lesbians lul

[Anonymous No.3540705]

>>3540700

>pretending you know what people in NYC are like

Please stop making blanket statements like this.

[Anonymous No.3540708]

>>3540705
i have a good idea, i met enough pretentious cunts from there. since I cant be a girl, i just try to outclass them in taste

[Anonymous No.3540712]

>>3540708

Well, you have the immature personality on point, I'll give you that.

[Anonymous No.3540770]

>>3538037
90% of the artists in Anime AA are introverted girls. If you're a decent looking guy you'll actually have an advantage, especially if you decide to draw fujoshit to cater to all the fujoshis that frequent AA.

[Anonymous No.3540785]

>>3540712
and you have the same hostility expected from virgins on 4chan, woohoo 4uuu

[Anonymous No.3540806]

>>3540785

Maybe if you had said you lived in NYC, I might have let it go, but you pretend like you know what people are like there by meeting, what, a few people that rubbed you the wrong way? That sounds more like a virgin living on 4chan than someone who actually lived in NYC for years and actually knows what living there is like and how people act.

Also, maybe you should think of a wittier smug answer next time? Didn't even make me laugh.

[Anonymous No.3540832]

>>3540806
>*pushes up glasses*
diDn'T eVeN MaKe me LauGhH

o i am laffin thooo

[Anonymous No.3542330]

>>3540658
>would you settle for a hambeast with bad hygiene and an attitide because she draws degenerate porn for you?

that sounds like dating tomoko so there is like a 75% chance i would date her but it depends on how bad that hygiene is. i wouldn't ask her to draw porn for me there is plenty of that already online i would just draw anime and comics with her we both like and play video games.

[Anonymous No.3542387]

>>3538783
>tracing
You monster

[Anonymous No.3542501]

>>3538578
>Artsy girls don't like that

[Anonymous No.3542510]

>>3542501
artsy girls are the worst woman on earth i wish them all death desu.

[Anonymous No.3542530]

>>3538037
>our art jobs
you're an entitled little donothing huh. Nothing is yours. kys