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QTDDTOT Anonymous Tue Jul 24 03:42:53 2018 No.3534805 [Reply] [Original]

Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread

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what the fuck guys.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 03:51:28 2018 No.3534811

Also I'll start with a few questions about rendering/values
When studying values, does the eyedropper impair my progress in recognizing values by eyeballing?
Do I need to never use lines in such studies to learn edge control even if my goal is to mix lineart and paint?
Is studying values of human figures something I should keep for later because of it's complexity?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 04:37:21 2018 No.3534856 >>3534805 What’s the best method to perspective? I’m too dumb to understand grids

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 04:38:08 2018 No.3534859

>>3534811
yep, don't use the eyedropper basically ever. if you want to use it right at the start to make up a palette that's fine, but aside from that it's bad for you.

you can use lines whenever you like, you can especially do a drawing to paint over. it's no use getting yourself all confused trying to paint up from scratch when you're trying to learn something specific like edges. if you want to learn to paint up from scratch, that's when you paint up from scratch.

no, studying values on figures is fine if you feel comfortable enough to actually study the values. if you're worrying about the drawing or pose or whatever so much that you can't focus on values then you probably need more drawing practice first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 05:23:08 2018 No.3534922 >>3534805 Good gumroads?

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:13:32 2018 No.3535075

>be anxious person
>insecure about my art
>follow many other artists that I think are amazing
>feel bad because i'm like a one-two-three years behind them in progress because their work isn't much distant from my own level of skill/subject matter
How do I stop focusing on others' work

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:21:32 2018 No.3535082 does anyone have the quote on how animation is doomed because there were no master animators who were younger than 50? also a sauce on the quote?

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:33:10 2018 No.3535091

>>3534859
Thanks for the answer
>you can use lines whenever you like, you can especially do a drawing to paint over. it's no use getting yourself all confused trying to paint up from scratch when you're trying to learn something specific like edges. if you want to learn to paint up from scratch, that's when you paint up from scratch.
I mean, but I have to paint OVER the lines, not keep them there right?
>no, studying values on figures is fine if you feel comfortable enough to actually study the values. if you're worrying about the drawing or pose or whatever so much that you can't focus on values then you probably need more drawing practice first.
So I should aim for the study be as lifelike as possible?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:22:25 2018 No.3535129 >>3534922 Bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:46:13 2018 No.3535157 >>3535075 >How do I stop focusing on others' work stop focusing on others' work

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 11:09:26 2018 No.3535293 >>3534922 Foundation/John Park Anthony Jones also looking for more good ones

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 11:11:49 2018 No.3535304 I haven't completely read The Odyssey. Does it matter, can anyone artist that hasn't?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 11:14:03 2018 No.3535311 >>3535075 get off the internet and just draw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 11:14:29 2018 No.3535313 >>3535304 ngmi

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 12:21:38 2018 No.3535421 Hey, any tips for struggling artists?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 12:38:15 2018 No.3535441 >>3535421 You can bend over and get this tip.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 14:03:14 2018 No.3535590 >>3535421 get a job

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:53:57 2018 No.3535738
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJI4Gv7NbmE
How is called the graphic style of this video and this pic?
You know, sharp color contrasts, mundane items and some surreal things going on, not simply "anime"
Closest I could assume was art deco but even then this seems different, perhaps a branch of it or something entirely different.

Sauce to more pics or videos like that are appreciated as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 16:12:29 2018 No.3535768 >>3534805 Does anyone know if the Amazon kindle fire has palm rejection? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1IRAzscVRA

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 16:50:49 2018 No.3535863
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how many opinions are you allowed to have on the internet before pros decide they don't want to hire you? i'm not talking political opinions, just criticising animated tv shows and the like

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 17:51:41 2018 No.3535964 >>3535293 thanks my dude!

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 18:58:58 2018 No.3536030

How do I draw faster?
Whenever I try to draw something it takes about a week just to get the sketch down. I spend some time on construction and go from using basic shapes and slowly progress to actually drawing the thing before I outline. Any advice on how to make this process any faster? I'm banging my head in the wall in pure rage over this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 19:04:00 2018 No.3536036 File: 43 KB, 600x511, kill me.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What kind of papers should I try out for drawing? Is newsprint any better than regular ksero paper?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 19:07:01 2018 No.3536039 >>3535421 That's all that there is , struggling.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 19:16:20 2018 No.3536052 I use mypaint because loonix Is there a better alternative or is it good enough ofr a beginner?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 19:17:10 2018 No.3536053 >>3536030 How long does it take you to draw from life? It sounds like you have no clue what you're doing and are groping blindly for what you want, but that's just my guess without knowing anything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 19:18:43 2018 No.3536054 >>3536052 krita

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 19:26:24 2018 No.3536065 Should I get a 27qhd cintiq or wait for the 24 pro to go back in stock?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:15:01 2018 No.3536122 what are some good rendering courses i should take? money isnt a issue

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:17:58 2018 No.3536124 File: 82 KB, 810x650, 1532124506895.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3535863 >not having a dedicated ship posting account and a clean account for you work you'll never /make it/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:22:29 2018 No.3536132 good social media sites to use? I am clueless ty in advanced

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:50:52 2018 No.3536161
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Maybe this could be its own thread but I'll ask here anyway: where does one post furry that's cute and not the ugly Western wolf-snout shit? I know Fur Affinity is the default answer for artists who want to do fur commissions, but it seems like the kind of people who go there expect and want the ugly stuff.

Specifically asking for the sake of getting commissions. Pic related for the style I'm talking about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:54:28 2018 No.3536165 how do I get rid of dandruff its all over my workspace

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:56:43 2018 No.3536167 >>3536161 >loli kinkbunny/twitter/pixiv

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:00:40 2018 No.3536170 >>3536167 Never heard of kinkbunny, link? Google just gives usernames it seems. And do people actually get commissions off pixiv? I thought is was sort of a Japanese focused site, but it's been a few years since I've visited.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:04:18 2018 No.3536176 >>3536167 >>3536170 Nevermind, inkbunny seems to be what you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:07:26 2018 No.3536182 >>3536170 Pixiv has a lot more western artists now, don't really know if people get commissions through it but they do use it because while inkbunny allows kemololi, regular loli is banned. I find more artists through twitter than anything else.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:10:11 2018 No.3536189 >>3536182 Ah, thanks. Never used twitter but I guess it's time to finally try it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 02:47:55 2018 No.3536529 >>3535091 Anyone?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 04:19:33 2018 No.3536614 >>3536053 Can take up a day or so when drawing each object.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 04:28:27 2018 No.3536623 How do I restrict color pallette when painting digitally? Especially when doing studies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 07:01:57 2018 No.3536737 >>3535768 Only with bluetooth pens iirc

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 08:26:06 2018 No.3536792 >>3536614 Stop being vague. Find a picture of a bird, sketch it, and post it. It's 2 ovals and a break, shouldn't take more than half an hour. I don't care much about the rendering.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 08:37:14 2018 No.3536796 Do you guys have any favorite Istebrak videos?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 08:49:36 2018 No.3536812 >>3534805 what drawing software does /ic/ use ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 08:54:44 2018 No.3536815 >>3536036 if you are just starting anything will do. you should only be focusing on lines not shading, so the texture of the paper doesnt matter

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 08:59:53 2018 No.3536821 >>3534805 >what the fuck guys. did question does not deserve it's own thread requesting mods to 404 this

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 09:02:58 2018 No.3536822 >>3536812 Clip studio paint, Paint SAI, Kirita,..... Pick your poision

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 09:19:20 2018 No.3536837 >>3536065 Whatever is cheapest atm.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 09:52:18 2018 No.3536865 File: 306 KB, 929x1024, Charles-Bargue-Drawing-Course.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone know where someone could download a PDF of Bargue's drawing course?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:45:38 2018 No.3536912 >>3536865 why would you want that, just from the cover you can see he cant draw

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:03:56 2018 No.3536926 File: 253 KB, 500x349, Bob-Ross-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there a Bob Ross equivalent for drawing anime girls?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:18:07 2018 No.3536942 >>3536926 loomis

Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:20:22 2018 No.3536950
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>>3536792
This one took me about 26 minutes to do.
I think it may only come from whatever I'm trying to draw from imaginiation. I've no problem drawing what I see, but it's exclusive to whatever I draw from my mind that takes me so long before I get it right.
Right now I'm trying to draw two OCs hugging each other from a side view whilst lying down but I've no clear references on what that would look like, especially with particular limbs and how they would look from that angle.

In short; I can draw what I see with no problem, but not what in my head. Or at least it takes far too long to draw what's in my head.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:21:23 2018 No.3536953 >>3536942 Not comfy enough

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:33:12 2018 No.3536975 >>3536950 Use construction friend >set horizon line >draw boxes in the positions of the characters >sketch their poses >add form and shapes to their poses

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:36:11 2018 No.3536981 >>3536975 Are there any tutorials in particular that I can follow this from?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:41:26 2018 No.3536987 >>3536623 Put the colors down to the side of your painting and use a brush with 100% opacity so your colors don't blend and mess with the colors you chose

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:42:54 2018 No.3536992 >>3536912 I need it for a class.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:49:14 2018 No.3537006 >>3536865 https://archive.org/details/C.BargueDrawingCourse

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 12:01:43 2018 No.3537034 File: 492 KB, 604x604, too black.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's a safe torrent for Clip Studio Paint

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 13:48:56 2018 No.3537159 >>3537034 the first result when sorting by seeders obviously

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 13:55:20 2018 No.3537167 >>3535091 >I mean, but I have to paint OVER the lines, not keep them there right? It doesn't matter, you can do it the way you want, it all depends on "what" you want

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 13:57:24 2018 No.3537169 >>3536122 bump help plz

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:00:54 2018 No.3537174 Anyone know a good site for gesture poses in extreme perspective? normal model poses are kinda getting boring after all these years and something that pushes my perspective more is always welcome

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:13:10 2018 No.3537187 >>3537174 here ya go friendo https://www.quickposes.com/en

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 15:34:31 2018 No.3537275 >>3536981 well, you just need basic understanding of perspective and how to draw boxes... Read perspective made easy. Though honestly it should be easy to infer most of it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 16:13:02 2018 No.3537309 >>3536926 mikey mega mega or Mark Crilley is the close that you can get

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 16:25:10 2018 No.3537327 >>3537159 Anon pls

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 16:56:56 2018 No.3537376 >>3537187 thanks buddy but thats pretty much my main site, the perspectives in there are nowhere as extreme as i would want them to be

Anonymous Thu Jul 26 01:27:58 2018 No.3537972
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Ok so I am a massive retard and dont understand what I am doing.
>Use krita cuz poorfag
>on desktop it looks fine
>post onto chan, still good
>later go onto phone, happen to have it saved on google photos so I can show a friend later
>colors are all fucked

The same thing happens with laptop. Like between the 3 screens theres never even remotely any consistency in the same drawing. I tried researching the issue and have worked out its probably a "color management" issue, whatever that means. Even then watching vids and reading posts on how to fix it hasnt helped, as they basically all say "oh just make sure youre in sRGB since thats the default for most things"

As an example image attached was made on desktop in krita with default settings. To me it looks relatively vibrant, bright greens, some yellows, etc. But on laptop screen it looks a bit grey and washed out, and on phone it looks a bit over saturated, but more green and less yellow.

TL;DR I am a manchild and need someone to hand hold me pls help

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 01:29:41 2018 No.3537977 >>3534805 what was that japanese word for character design sheets, I am looking for some certain ones but I forgot that word and makes the search harded

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 01:32:39 2018 No.3537980 >>3537977 settei

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 01:37:22 2018 No.3537986 >>3537972 depends on the monitor phone is vibrant because oled laptop is washed out because its a cheap laptop, there is a reason why people that make photo/video editing often use macbookpros.

Anonymous Thu Jul 26 01:43:48 2018 No.3537993

>>3537972
>Use krita cuz poorfag
what is pirating? just google any program and you'll find cracked version of them within minutes

anyways that's due to color temperature and calibration being different between devices

try calibrating your computer to match your phone, or vice versa

i got a new computer in december and the screen is shit, i took multiple calibrations to even match my phones screen and even then it can't physically reproduce yellow and the saturation correctly, i eventually adjusted to it but it's still an occasional annoyance.

TLDR calibrate your screens colors

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 01:44:06 2018 No.3537994 >>3537986 thanks for quick response. So is there any way to achieve consistency for when I export the image? Or is everyone just bound to see something different than me or each other?

Anonymous Thu Jul 26 01:45:57 2018 No.3537998

>>3536030
Idk about you but personally if I go into a work without a clear vision in my mind of what the image is supposed to be the work will drag on and often times I will be several sessions into it and realize that the pose is weak or I missed the mark somehow.

My advice is if you are feeling around for a form and unsure of what to sketch then keep it quick and don't get attached to the piece. Only go all in when you have a clear vision. Other than that there is no reason that i can figure why it takes you so long to get past construction lines

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 01:47:02 2018 No.3538000 >>3537980 ty anon, for responding my question and being so fast

Anonymous Thu Jul 26 01:50:55 2018 No.3538003

>>3537993
Also thanks for quick response.

I tried finding a cracked Ps once and it worked fine with everything except my tablet. Like the cursor wouldnt even move with the pen. I guess it was just that specific version, but at the time it seemed easier to just use krita.

Also will try the screen calibration thing, thanks anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 02:18:30 2018 No.3538023 >>3537034 >http://www.mediafire.com/file/66a44dxlq3c7t14/CSP154.EN.rar

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 02:43:22 2018 No.3538043 File: 961 KB, 1920x1080, 1532226029363.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3536912 >this guy's never heard of bargue

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 05:34:56 2018 No.3538166 >>3537309 Thanks anon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 06:32:54 2018 No.3538224 >>3536796 Whenever I can heard the NGMI's soul get crushed by reality it's a good video

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 08:00:35 2018 No.3538342 >>3538023 I'm fucking terrified of downloading this

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 08:58:59 2018 No.3538390 What to know when buying a monitor?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 09:25:50 2018 No.3538419 >>3538342 just buy it then pussy, dont ask for illegal torrents when you're scared of illegal things

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 09:36:01 2018 No.3538429 >>3538419 But I did download it though

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 11:30:22 2018 No.3538527 File: 40 KB, 640x598, vYYJTTG_d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I know next to nothing about digital art but I'm trying to buy a drawing pad for a friend, can anyone reccomend a decent brand?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 11:59:36 2018 No.3538554 >>3538527 If you're a rich dude you can buy them an intuos, but also I've heard that the huions in the $70-$90 range are really solid as well

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 12:09:49 2018 No.3538558 >>3536815 I am not just starting, man. Thanks for the nonadvice tho...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 12:33:21 2018 No.3538582 >>3538554 Thanks, these look pretty decent. Any recommendations? Almost all of them are in my price range.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:23:08 2018 No.3538864 >>3538582 The Huion 1060 looks pretty good at $82

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:24:29 2018 No.3538867 >>3534805 My friend wants to get into architecture, what should I recommend him to read and give him as a birthday present?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:43:37 2018 No.3538893 >>3538867 subscription to architectural digest

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:55:49 2018 No.3538921 >>3538867 there's a book on amazon called 101 things i learned in architecture school that's pretty good for a beginner. or you could pick one out of this: http://mcmansionhell.com/post/158046196166/the-mcmansion-hell-big-list-of-books-websites

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 21:34:35 2018 No.3539170 >>3535075 By turning off the screen.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 21:38:17 2018 No.3539178 >>3536165 Get rid of your workplace. Problem solved.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 01:48:51 2018 No.3539398 >>3538867 There's an architecture blog named architizer and they often feature books. Just look around.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 02:02:13 2018 No.3539404 >>3536165 I would start with dandruff shampoo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 02:04:10 2018 No.3539408 File: 68 KB, 1280x720, Measuring.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3534805 How do you maintain proportions when drawing something from real life while working digitally on a tablet?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 02:45:43 2018 No.3539431 >>3539408 Proportional dividers work great for this, but a pencil works too. You just need to make sure you are always measuring from the same distance. Likewise, you should always be zoomed out or in the same way in your program when comparing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 02:54:44 2018 No.3539439 >>3539431 I'll give that a swing. Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 03:50:30 2018 No.3539484 >>3539431 doubling this. I can't ever get used to use a pencil but a proportional divider doing a good job for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 06:09:16 2018 No.3539558 How to learn aesthetics or develop good taste?

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 08:02:54 2018 No.3539622

>>3539558
Breadth and depth of experience. Ignoring aesthetic philosophy which is a bit heavy for this discussion, it boils down to distinguishing the difference between what you like and what is good and a wide range of experience. What you like v. what is good comes out of a broad range of experience where you develop more subtle preferences through the eye of others and allows you to apply it to your own experience of enjoyment. I know what a good blue suit looks like, but I would never wear one.

I'm going to butcher this because I just woke up: we cannot truly comprehend or accurately imagine that which we have not experienced. Trying new or more intense flavors actually expands the phenomenological field and changes the experience of everything already within it. Drinking a couple different truly vile, extremely bitter IPAs puts the rest in context and what once tasted like pine bark and skunk becomes fruity and floral with a hint of sweetness. Natural peanut butter makes the processed stuff come off as overly sweet, which it always was, but there was no context. The same appears to be true of art. You look at a massive range of art or start branching out into more novel and extreme music or watch a ton of french new wave and japanese period films or whatever. Your tastes expand and a scale develops organically. The National Gallery calls to you because looking at pictures doesn't cut it, you look for illustrators doing things you didn't notice before, you have to stand right in front of Wata's amp so when she drops a fat guitar brap that's louder than the space shuttle taking off you feel your organs rearrange. You jones for more intense, more subtle, more novel, more sublime. The metaphorical volume gets turned down on radio pop and 90 percent of tumblr, but the reality is that the volume was always that low, you just never knew what taking it up to 11 sounded like.

You know exactly what you want and what it's made from. You know the aesthetic formula.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 08:25:37 2018 No.3539647 >>3536165 small vaccum

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 08:32:38 2018 No.3539654
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Can someone explain how to do gestures to me? I get what they are for and the idea on how they're done, but when I do it, it doesn't seem to work
Like apparently I'm just supposed to do a quick sketch focusing on the movement and organic pose, instead of accuracy. But when I try it just looks either like a stickman kinda thing, or just a deformed normal sketch. Neither feels like I'm learning about movement or poses, it just seems a shitty lazy drawing.
pic unrelated

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 08:46:36 2018 No.3539666

What exactly is the purpose of black paint? Specifically in gouache?

Coming from watercolors, I've always made my own "blacks" by mixing primaries. To darken a color I'd use its complimentary.

This gouache primary set I got came with a black tube, and its just been sitting there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 09:11:32 2018 No.3539687 >>3539654 https://www.dictionary.com/browse/gesture

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 09:38:28 2018 No.3539710

>>3539666
Some (most) gouache is full of a lot of trash so it photographs well for commercial work and doesn't always mix a deep enough black. And illustrators use it.

It's primarily used to darken beyond what watercolor is capable of due to the yellow side of things not being anywhere near black, desaturating without having to account for mixing complements, and generally making life easier. You don't have the same level of transparency to rely on or get in the way of using it.

I've never done much with it because I've never felt like investing fully in gouache, but a good black or neutral tint can make hitting darker, less saturated colors easier, and you can mix it with burnt umber to make a van dyke brown that isn't a mystery mix. I'm seriously considering finding or mixing a good black for watercolor work because the hookshot some pigments do around the neutral with their direct complement is infuriating.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 09:41:47 2018 No.3539711 >>3535075 find something about your art that you like, and strive for it. If you like the way you draw noses go back and look at them. Fall in love with your own art.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 09:47:19 2018 No.3539718 >>3538527 theres a 75 dollar huion tablet that I use for class work on the occasion. It's huge and a good start for beginners. If thats too expensive go look on ebay for a used one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 09:59:55 2018 No.3539731 File: 52 KB, 324x324, 503A4E4A-93FA-40E4-B68A-0B2E105863E2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How can I achieve dot shade type patterning easily and consistently with GIMP (or another free program)?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 10:02:04 2018 No.3539732 >>3539731 Pirate mangastudio and use their screen tone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 14:12:29 2018 No.3540050 >>3539654 Bump because I literally can't come up with good poses on my own and i tried drawing something for 2 hours erasing every time because the pose was shit every time >>3539687 Anon that's not what I asked

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 15:04:34 2018 No.3540117 Should I go to college for Graphic Design or Comic Creation/Ilustration.. Which one can be learned on their own more easily

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 15:38:16 2018 No.3540153 >>3539731 this but with photoshop please?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 15:55:58 2018 No.3540169 >>3540153 if you own photoshop legally, you should be able to download kyle webster's screentone brush pack through your brush menu.

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 17:27:43 2018 No.3540298

hello, i used to draw a lot before but havent had much time lately and my hands got a bit rusty. im not a complete beginner and i was able do copy pictures and draw from life well enough, now my skills weakened. do you have any advice as to where should i start again from? thank you

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 18:06:29 2018 No.3540341

>>3540117
People are going to tell you learn it on your own, but I think its smart to go to college. A lot of people in the industry have some sort of education.

If you put effort into your education, you will get good fast, make connections, and be surrounded by like minded people. Keep in mind you don't have to enroll in college courses, you can just enroll in art courses in general if that is a better solution.

If you are in the US, also check out state schools for their art programs. You will often get a really good deal, and can minor/double major in another subject as a back up.

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 18:12:23 2018 No.3540350

How does one study something?
When somebody says they need to study more proportions, does it mean reading a chapter on it and then drawing a few cylinders? Does one study from a reference? I know this is retarded, but how do I "grind" this? How do I make the time drawing the most effective if you understand me.

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 19:51:53 2018 No.3540467
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I stay up all night browsing shit on my phone, make 1 fucking sketch at 3AM and put down the pencil, waste an entire day's worth of drawing time by sleeping, wake up at 8PM and end up not being able to go to bed again, how do I stop this

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 19:59:32 2018 No.3540485
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>>3534805
ive never drawn with loomis or construction method in all my years.

i always draw the outer lines and adjust if needed keeping in mind anatomical rules. it usually works out but i admit that sometimes i fuckup a limb and dont even notice as fast as id like to.

im not a good artist but im so far into this method that i dont think i can go back. Can i still improve doing this? do you know artists who dont follow the drawschool methods?

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 21:10:40 2018 No.3540561

>>3540467
Put your phone down at a reasonable time, stay up until you're able to fall asleep at around 9pm and set an alarm for sometime early in the morning like 6 or 7am. Keep doing this to fix your sleep schedule, just don't touch your phone after bedtime.

Set goals that you can realistically reach each day, like "draw 10 hands" "Draw a couple buildings" "Do a landscape painting" and actually stick to that, put your phone down until you finish it if you have to. Once you're in the habit of doing any sort of drawing each day you can get into stuff like studying for an hour or two each day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 21:42:13 2018 No.3540606 >>3540485 hey anon hopefully this video has what you need: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg&feature=youtu.be it seems like itd b up ur alley. he's the least traditional one i've seen.

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:29:27 2018 No.3540660

>>3540050
That's not gestures. You want to draw for maybe 30 seconds and your only goal is to see the movement in whatever you drew. Can you tell that the person is jumping by your 30 second attempt? Do it again. And again. And again. All with many many different poses. You dont even have to complete the movements you tried. Just keep at it. The actual time limit is optional. The rest is not. Nonetheless keep it low. None of this 2 hours, aim more 2 minutes. Once you can make the movement, use it as a base for your actual drawings. Redraw the gesture until you get the one you want and work on that. You will draw hundreds.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 23:55:28 2018 No.3540713 >>3540660 idk anon not the guy u'r replying to but i was advised to try doing longer gestures if i couldnt capture the movement in like 1 min gestures

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 00:43:15 2018 No.3540750

>>3539654
>>3540660
>>3540713

Most of the live drawing I've done start with shorter gesture drawings and gradually reaching longer poses: 30 second gestures for a few minutes, a few 1 minute gestures, a few 2 minute, a 5 minute, a 10 minute, and at the end a 20 minute drawing.

I personally find the best way to approach gestures is to find the main line of action, either through the ways the limbs are arranged or where the weight of the person is distributed. I also just see them as warm ups, looking at the overall pose and drawing rather than the details.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:05:21 2018 No.3540768

>>3540117

It depends on which you even want to do after college. There's no easier to learn on your own answer, it's just depends on how hard you work. A good art college will spoon feed you the right info and put you on a schedule. You'll also make friends with similar interests who can become your peers in the future.

With that said, I went to school for Illustration/Cartooning and regret not the major, but the teachers and some of the electives I chose. The graphic design program at my college is one of the best, but I have more of a passion for cartooning and learning design and typography after college gave me a greater appreciation for it. It's better to develop yourself as an artist and solidify your core values before making cynical decisions on what major to pick based on what's easier to learn yourself, the job market, etc.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:57:30 2018 No.3540798

>>3540350
When you study something, you memorize the concepts and practice them till you understand them.
For proportions, you could for example memorize things like how many heads tall is a persons arm or what's the width of the waist compared to the shoulders, and draw these proportions as you're learning them, so you learn to actually put it into practice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 05:37:19 2018 No.3540935 Is the length form wrist to elbow the same as elbow to shoulder? What is the best book for human proportions? Better if it includes general proportions from babies to grannies

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 06:55:37 2018 No.3540987 >>3540935 dunno about that, but wrist to elbow is the same as foot lenght

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 07:04:57 2018 No.3540992 >>3540798 cheers!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 07:08:23 2018 No.3540993 >>3540935 >What is the best book for human proportions? Better if it includes general proportions from babies to grannies Loomis's Figure Drawing For All It's Worth. I don't know if it's the best or not, but it's really good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 10:57:12 2018 No.3541149 How to get more involved with art? What sites should I browse to increase my interest and understanding of art? If Tumblr, what blogs must I follow? Should I even bother with something like Deviant Art? Is pixiv good? Thanks!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:03:03 2018 No.3541380 File: 263 KB, 1280x960, everything will be fine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] In the first parts of How to Render, are exercises with all the lines and grids even worth doing? It seems like something you'd never use in your own work

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:12:54 2018 No.3541392 >keep losing proportion mid-drawing what is my deficiency?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:26:50 2018 No.3541413 >>3536122 help please

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:12:26 2018 No.3541474

>>3541149
>What sites should I browse to increase my interest and understanding of art?
wikiart.org
you could also go to a library and pick up a small book to read, or find a documentary on youtube (shock of the new or whatever )
what exactly are you aiming at? becoming culturally broad or is this in aim of improving at art?
>If Tumblr, what blogs must I follow?
any are fun, just search for art history blogs in the search bar. there are lots that just exist to post paintings and the like
>Should I even bother with something like Deviant Art?
eh it's gone downhill
>Is pixiv good?
sure, if you want to look at anime stuff

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:23:30 2018 No.3541487

>>3541392
Are you sketching and building poses? Because if you are don't worry about it. You are meant to make mistakes. Say you are draw an arm and lose proportion. Finish the arm then take a look at it, decide what's wrong and then fix it and keep doing this until it's satisfactory.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:32:30 2018 No.3541499 >>3541392 you dont use your fucking head

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:12:33 2018 No.3541540 >>3536122 Seconding this question, as a beginner to rendering

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:21:58 2018 No.3541549 >>3541540 watch marco Bucci's videos on light and color (and ambient occlusion) and take a look at scott Robertson's how to render (its on cgpeers) after that it comes down to experience with your medium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwLQ0cDb4cE

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:30:09 2018 No.3541559 >>3541549 Yeah I do know of those videos and I am going through How to Render, however I wanted to know about what that anon asked specifically because I would also be ok with spending some money if I could get guidance in return Also bumping >>3541380

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:08:39 2018 No.3541608 >>3541474 thank you!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:18:16 2018 No.3541764 How do you come up with poses on your own? Just a large visual library? I'm trying not to rely on references as much as I do but I keep falling back on them as I can't think of poses

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:24:40 2018 No.3541774

How do I learn to see the point in grinding? I am the type of person who likes to figure out what is wrong, what to do, how to achieve something etc, but to actually take the pencil and do the studies, urgh, I can't make my brain see the point in this, like I already know how to do them, why do I need to actually do them? Despite not being able to draw a lot of things. I'm trying hard to connect this in my mind, but it always slips away. I kinda struggle to be in a goal-oriented mindset? Sorry, I probably doesn't make much sense here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:42:26 2018 No.3541795 File: 78 KB, 640x640, 26864705_1672325866168560_7747050880817430528_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone know the name of this kind of art style and similar artists?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 20:42:51 2018 No.3541873
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I was in an accident and couldn't draw for a couple of months. I did a few doodles here and there when I could but nothing too serious.
Now that I can draw again everything I do looks like absolute shit because I'm so out of practice.

Has anyone been through long periods of not being able to practice like this? What's the quickest way to get back into things? I need to catch up on commissions and I dont want to spend days or weeks grinding to get back to the point I was, since that will only put me further behind.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 20:57:48 2018 No.3541885

>>3541774
Do you draw outside of studying? The point of doing a study is to apply it to something you actually want to draw.

For example, you can do a figure drawing study and then immediately do a fanart or original character in the same pose. It starts to make more sense once you see the fruits of your labor.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 21:06:53 2018 No.3541897

>>3539711
underrated post and great advice. i've never found an artist who drew people exactly the way i liked. they drew noses in a way i didn't like, eyes in a way i didn't like, pectoral muscles in a way i didnt like. they are of course extremely talented, but they would make design choices i wasnt a fan of.

so i draw everything exactly the way i want and even though i suck right now, i am motivated to draw the cutest anime people i can

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 22:49:34 2018 No.3541987 Does anybody have advice for goal setting for a beginner in art? I know so little that it feels like browsing ic takes a glossary. What goals can i set besides draw that Picasso portrait?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:57:24 2018 No.3542360 Are there any artbooks that are written from a mathematical or scientific perspective? I'm interested in learning how forms morph as a reaction to force being applied to them.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:00:33 2018 No.3542365
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For porn artists, it is better to separate your porn email address with your normal email address right? What is the best way to do this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:28:33 2018 No.3542406 >>3542365 Create a new email you fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:33:55 2018 No.3542408 >>3542365 Just get two different email addresses? You can either get it from the same provider, or differen't providers. There are email managers out there that let you connect multiple accounts to one app or website. That way you won't miss an email.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:42:16 2018 No.3542412

Does anyone think Taozipie on instagram traces? All she does is draw photographs and render them really well and they look really accurate and she never draws anything without a photograph

I'm just curious if artists might just be doing that and getting "famous" through it

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:01:34 2018 No.3542418

>>3542408
Well sure I was just thinking how creating an email is going to ask some personal info of me, obviously if i want to keep it separate from the normal address i don't want to put in person info, but i don't know if improvising some random data is enough for it to not be traceable back to me
I just don't want porn work to come bite me back in the ass eventually, like when applying for another job irl and my boss finding out about it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:07:05 2018 No.3542423 >>3541987 draw something better than your last pieces!? at least this is always one of my goals

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:26:15 2018 No.3542446 >>3542418 I see. I think if you don't put any real info in the email, it will be very hard to connect it back to you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:29:37 2018 No.3542448 What is some cheap sketch paper besides printer paper?

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:09:18 2018 No.3542532
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>>3541987
I'm in the same boat

Draw out a story? At the Mountains of Madness by HP Lovecraft has some cool monsters, good scenes and you can read it online

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 09:23:27 2018 No.3542548

>>3542448
Newsprint if you don't mind the color and texture. Walmart/dollar store sketchbooks are pretty decent. For being so expensive on average, a lot of craft stores like AC Moore run regular sales and coupons where you can get a bunch of sketchbooks for under 10 dollars.

Watercolor sheets run 2 dollars a page, cheap is relative.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:46:51 2018 No.3542665

>>3534805
>Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
Is it OK to post your pics on multiple blogs? I feel post same pics everywhere it's like throwing your shit in people who do not like that 'gay performance'. Like you bother random people to watch and comment your anus. Kinda shameful act for me

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:54:50 2018 No.3542732 >>3542548 I agree with Walmart sketchbooks. I'm using one that was $2 and has like 100 sheets. It is great for practicing and not worrying about wasting paper. I also agree with newsprint, it is pretty cheap.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:58:27 2018 No.3542737

>>3541987
Well my endgame is to draw fan art and eventually a web comic. So I set my goals reachable to achieve that. My first goal was to draw the head. After I learned the head well enough I drew my first fan art. Then I just worked my way down the body and repeated.

Just think of little goals to set that make sense to reach your endgame.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:18:10 2018 No.3542757

>>3542732
They're by the same company and use the same paper as the 200 series Strathmore that costs twice as much. The only difference I can find is that the bad art on the cover is worse.

The trick with newsprint is that it's only good for conté and charcoal. Pencil doesn't pop and it will destroy pens. It's like working with toned paper and takes white crayon pretty well some days. If you're going to tradfag for cheap, you may as well go all the way. It's a toss up whether you want unappealing beige or disgusting grey.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:28:56 2018 No.3542773

>>3542665
most people post the the same pic on insta, tumblr, twitter so it can't be that big of a problem

>>3541987
if you want to make a comic like the other anons, set a page limit, don't make your first project be a 6000 page fantasy epic or you're gonna have a bad time

>>3541795
that pencil rendering? kind of reminds me of carter goodrich and brett helquist

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:32:49 2018 No.3542779 >>3542757 China marker works great on newsprint too.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:37:33 2018 No.3542783
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>>3534805
so just made a new instagram to post art on and am getting a lot of follows by random artist.

some of them follow more that a thousand people. How many of these do you guys think are bots?

also anyone have any tips?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 13:47:12 2018 No.3542794 Should I set pictures to black and white to study values or should I determine values right away from colored pics?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 14:15:57 2018 No.3542824 how to into drawing environments/backgrounds

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 14:18:51 2018 No.3542825 >>3542794 Study values first. The importance of having good values and form cannot be overstated and you cant make a good piece without them. Plus color theory is a lot easier to understand when you have a grasp of values.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 14:26:19 2018 No.3542832

>>3542794
It's easier to see values in black and white but you can learn it from color photos as well. Just bear in mind that color relativity exists and so sometimes colors look like a darker and lighter value than they actually are. Putting images into black and white to study value is easier but you'll be fine if you dont.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 14:33:07 2018 No.3542837
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How does one do studies from life? I tried finding explanations of how to do this on YouTube and they all just told me to draw things in front of me. Is there something I'm missing or is that really it?
>inb4 "post work"
Pic is a shell I had on my desk.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 14:57:45 2018 No.3542865 >>3542837 is that definitely what he shell looked like anon? did you see it precisely from the top/have it set on its side at a perfect 90% angle? that's what they mean. see it and draw it as it looks like.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 14:58:39 2018 No.3542868 >>3542837 symbol drawing

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:12:47 2018 No.3542879

>>3536036
Newsprint paper is a very thin paper. It's good for sketching and the like, but not the best for inking, as the ink tends to soak in and bleed easier, the paper degrades quicker, and it is, all in all, not a terribly good paper. However, it's fairly cheap in comparison to photocopier paper, and often comes in much larger sizes at cheaper or at least similar prices, so if you're using it for sketches in pencil or ballpoint I can recommend it for that. If you want to keep your projects and plan on displaying them, though, do not use newspaper.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 15:42:25 2018 No.3542916 >>3542837 Analyze the shape and recreate the SHAPE from various angles. Don't copy its 2dimensional projection or appearance, reproduce its 3dimensional shape. Produce something that makes the threedimensionality visible on paper.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 17:13:15 2018 No.3543001
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Should studies and imagination drawings be completely separate?
Like, should imagination work be entirely from imagination, or will I progress faster by using reference when needed?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 17:41:38 2018 No.3543037 >>3543001 So long as you don't let it limit your subject (like changing the angle because it doesn't match your reference), use all the reference you want when drawing from imagination.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 17:42:49 2018 No.3543041 >>3543001 The only people who don't look to some kind of reference for a finished work are up to no good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 17:49:05 2018 No.3543047 Do you guys ever feel like you broke out of /beg/ and then 5 minutes later realize you're still trash? I feel like I'm in a Sisyphean hell with Dunning-Kruger and the Funky Bunch.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 17:56:30 2018 No.3543052

>>3543047
people misunderstand dunning kruger, it doesn't make you think your work is better than it is, it makes you think that better work than yours takes a similar amount of skill.

so you look at ruanjia or whomever and you think 'well judging by my current high tier /beg/ work i should be at that level in 3 months' whereas you're probably 5 years away, or 10 who knows.

so it is sisyphean in a sense, because the better you get the longer it'll take for you to git gud.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 18:02:19 2018 No.3543064

I really want to learn art history, so I can find more inspiration and find influences. Or else I have no idea which artists I want to look up to.

However, I have no idea where to start? Are there any websites or textbooks that can introduce me to the basics? Thank you

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 18:05:20 2018 No.3543069 >>3543064 Go on libgen and get some texbooks, read up and cross reference with wikipedia. The ones covering specific periods are going to be more in depth than History of Art Part 1 and 2.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 18:06:26 2018 No.3543072

>>3543064
Any starting point is as good as any other, really.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_art

If you're looking for inspiration, try googling if any contemporary artists you really like have ever mentioned their favorite historical artists.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 18:38:05 2018 No.3543097

How the fuck do I draw trees and environments without killing myself?
They're just so detailed I can't be assed to spend 20 hours on trees when I only spent 40 minutes on the focus of the image, but at the same time I don't want to do so half assed blur.
Everyone is always about loomis and vilpu, but where can I get loomis for the trees?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 21:36:59 2018 No.3543264 >>3543064 >>3543069 >>3543072 Thanks. Where can I find works from other artists today though?

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 22:58:31 2018 No.3543341
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>>3543097
concept art style is just a photo that you smudge to make look painted.
illustration style is textured blob with detailed silhouette and a few detailed branches/leaves.
unless the trees are the focal point you mainly want to just imply detail like pic related.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:03:41 2018 No.3543348
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>>3540935
That can work. Richer's Artistic Anatomy is one of the best for proportions and illustrations of all time that's referenced by everyone after. Top of the shoulder to the midpoint of the elbow to the midpoint/end of the palm is even with the body at 7.5 heads tall.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:05:15 2018 No.3543351 >>3534805 is it easy to get (you)'s here? It seems like it would be really easy to farm (you)s

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:11:40 2018 No.3543360
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>>3543341
This isn't the best example but I have it on hand.

I want to do more than just represent that something is sort of there, I like these type things where you know what's there, and it has its own form too. Don't want to go full detail, but don't want to go full abstract implications either. Is there any good resources for understanding how people break these things down?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:32:17 2018 No.3543381 >>3543360 Crank up the contrast too much on a shitty black and white photo of a tree. Draw that. Simple blocks of value made with brush glyphs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:44:35 2018 No.3543403 >>3543360 This is just as simple, but in an opposite way. Instead of implying things with messes of color it does so with flat graphic shapes. Art is about making the brain think something is there, not actually putting it there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:46:47 2018 No.3543408 >>3543360 Also I guarantee the artist used a photo as the base for this

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 23:49:53 2018 No.3543409

>>3543403
>>3543381
is there no good resources for this other than just doing it a lot? I know it looks easy but whenever I've done it in the past it comes out looking like a blob of literal shit.
I understand there's a concept behind it, but I don't understand how they make that concept happen.
>>3543408
and I mean maybe? but this doesn't look like anything too hard for experienced artists?

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 01:43:37 2018 No.3543506

jus upgraded from a screenless tablet to one with a screen
trying to calibrate the colour is a pain in the ass - I notice my monitor is more blue whereas my new tablet is more red. is it worth it to get a program for this dumb shit or should I just continue fucking with GPU settings til I'm happy? it's also frustrating as I don't know which one is more 'correct', my monitor or the tablet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 01:53:47 2018 No.3543518 File: 505 KB, 643x1000, ns 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My gestures feel dynamic but my finals are stiff. How do you keep the energy of a sketch in a finalized piece?

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 02:07:03 2018 No.3543531

>>3543518
Learn to properly create the form. Gestures are done loosely and your mind creates the form. But when lining and painting over it you're the one actually creating the form. You just gotta learn to translate what your mind sees into actual technique

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 02:51:40 2018 No.3543568 >>3543531 >Draw better fucking /ic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:01:59 2018 No.3543580 >>3543518 you gotta exaggerate the gesture when youre throwing it down, cause when you finalize it, some of that gesture is naturally lost. only some though

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:12:52 2018 No.3543587

>>3543568
Study anatomy books. By far the greatest method to learning figure drawing, remember to also draw from pictures and apply what you learned from the books

Some i Recommend for a beginner are:
>LOOMIS XD XD (this is not a joke, go pick up figure drawing for all its worth)
>Bridgman for intermediates
>Hampton, but pay attention to the way he draws poses and foreshortening, his anatomy is pretty subpar
>Vilppu
>and many more

just look around the sticky and artbook threads, and you'll find more than you could ever hope for

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:31:04 2018 No.3543603 File: 326 KB, 720x720, 80s snek.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3543587 I'm not a beginner. The scribble lady is a gesture drawing. Help with rendering is not what i asked about. pic is mine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 03:34:44 2018 No.3543605 What's a semi decent graphical tablet with a screen? I can't stand the screenless crap anymore, don't mind paying a 400-500 dollars so long as it's good, don't really mind dealing with driver issues tho.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:22:37 2018 No.3543654

I don't typically hate my own art. But I have a couple of friends who, when I see them share a new piece, make me feel like throwing down my stylus and giving up. They do everything I want to do, but at a level I can never possibly achieve.

I feel like a pale imitation of the people I admire, and the thought of never liking my own art as much as I like someone else's drives me up the wall. how do I quit feeling so hopeless?

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 04:29:44 2018 No.3543662
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>>3543605
I just posted a few posts up having jus got my screen tablet today
got a xppen 16 pro, think its 459 USD? drivers - excellent, using it is fucking amazing. 92% aRGB, obviously from my post I struggled with colour calibration but I did a bunch of googling and found my monitor is worse than my tablet, so I picked a default setting in the drivers and I'm happy with it now. I couldn't stand my screenless, hence I couldn't stand digital. now I'm in love.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 05:13:40 2018 No.3543702

>>3543654
Instead feeling hopeless when you see their art, use it as fuel to improve. Right now, i'm shit tier. But when I see art that is good from friends or other artists, it makes me want to draw and get better.

Stop comparing yourself to others, and just focus on improving yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 11:49:13 2018 No.3543752 >>3543603 >I'm not a beginner >posts beginner drawing oh no.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 12:36:39 2018 No.3543784

>>3543654
You remind me of myself a short time ago, but instead of having friends way better than me, it was my younger sibling, as a kid i was so frustrated that i stopped drawing many times. At some point you have to realize that for any skill you're learning, there will always be a million people better than you, who are younger or the same age, and a million worse who are older than you too; it's all a product of the time and effort they put into it. Ofc the numbers arent exactly that, but the point is that you're always going to see people at the skill level you want to be at. You may as well choose your goal, and reach for that instead of worrying about the others who are ahead of you, since after all, isn't one day reaching that goal your dream already? (or thats how i see it)
I like to keep old art and redraw it every once and a while, its a very relaxing experience and helps me see the improvement. But seriously, no matter what you do, there is a kid 6 years younger who is better than you at it, you can still love drawing without being the best out there.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:07:51 2018 No.3544129

>>3543702
>use it as fuel to improve
I wish I could, but there's a point where things go from "I like the way this guy does [x thing], I'll try to incorporate that in my own work" to "this guy does everything exactly how I wish I could do it, what the fuck".

It's form, anatomy, shading, coloring, proportion, line quality, style, etc etc etc etc. It essentially amounts to a "certain feeling" in their work that I don't know how to even begin to replicate. I'd have to get good at absolutely everything, and that notion is the opposite of motivating.

>>3543784
I'm not really concerned with being the best- there are millions of artists that are better than me who don't make me feel this way, so it's not a general thing.

I guess it's a feeling of obsolescence. It's not just that they're better, but that they're making what I want to make with five time as much skill and appeal. It's terrifying to know that my work will always be a pale imitation of theirs, that I'll never get the same feeling looking at my art that I get looking at theirs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:18:49 2018 No.3544141 File: 1005 KB, 900x700, 1497079672.neradohor_60.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How can you choose colors of the same value but different saturation like in pic related?

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:24:03 2018 No.3544148

>>3544141
1. There are a lot of different values in that picture.
2. If you are using photoshop, press ctrl+y and increase the saturation of your color, paint it in the same area as your original color. It will look darker, so adjust your color's brightness setting until your saturated color shows the same value as your original color.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:25:48 2018 No.3544151 File: 677 KB, 900x700, Untitled-6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3544148 >he thinks theres a lot of different values in this picture

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:27:08 2018 No.3544153 I once saw a "training plan" here on /ic/ that detailed how to spend time drawing to get better, does anyone have the post / screenshot / picture of it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:27:22 2018 No.3544156 >>3544151 Exactly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:31:11 2018 No.3544162 File: 65 KB, 750x750, 1516239668062.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Whats a tablet with a good active area/price ratio? My current bamboo pen and touch covers like 1/10 of my screen its fucking pain so Im looking to upgrade

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:35:39 2018 No.3544165 File: 25 KB, 213x238, hmmm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3544141 isnt it literally that simple?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:40:36 2018 No.3544171 File: 116 KB, 1098x660, saturation.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3544165 nah

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:43:24 2018 No.3544174 File: 58 KB, 441x302, 1525910913939.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3544141 >>3544171

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 19:45:34 2018 No.3544177 >>3544174 whats the joke

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:20:15 2018 No.3544221 >>3544162 It should cover the whole thing unless you set it up wrong. Generally you want a tablet the same size as your screen, but anything around the huion 1610 is good, if not better because massive tablets are a pain in the ass

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:32:16 2018 No.3544237

>>3544171
huh, honestly Im stumped lol, I would just eyeball it
>>3544221
I set it up so that my active area is only a bit smaller than what Im drawing on the screen, if made it fit 1:1 a line measuring 1cm on my tablet would measure like 5cm on my screen, thats a gigantic loss of precision
>huion 1610
You meant H610 right? That would make it 10cm wider and 7cm taller than my current piece of shit and its barely more expensive, what was I thinking buying that 3 years ago

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:39:40 2018 No.3544248 File: 121 KB, 320x331, trtrtrtdddddtdd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3544165 just bend it like this my man

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:41:31 2018 No.3544253 File: 121 KB, 320x331, trtrtrtdddddtdd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3544171 no worries, just bend it like this my man

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 20:42:52 2018 No.3544257

>>3544129
(million person here)
Do you only get the feeling when the person is someone you know? You know, as you develop your style, you will take a different direction from the people you know. You might decide to specialize in something they don't, or follow a career in a specific field. When everyone is practicing the fundamentals, it's hard to see it, but if you really just set your end goal for the art you want yourself to make, you'll find that one day you'll be at your goal, and your art style and technique will not be comparable to other professionals because you'll have your own style and own way of making your art the most appealing to you. The issue is when your goal is to surpass someone else, which sorta seems like your attitude. Not saying thats always necessarily the worst thing ever, it just seems to be bringing you down, your goal should fill you with determination, don't make it something impossible like surpassing people who are also improving in their own direction.

On another note, there's probably not much me or anyone can say to change how you feel about looking at other peoples art, for me i just got so used to feeling jealous and helpless that it sorta stopped on its own, you really just have to accept that they will always be peers who are better, take a deep breath, and keep trying to make the best art you can make and have fun with it.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:32:43 2018 No.3544284

>>3544237
I meant the even bigger one. The 1860 pro? I don't know the number off the top of my head, I have a giano and it's great but doesn't fit on my desk with room to reach keyboard shortcuts. Would rec if you're looking for huge and relatively cheap.

Anonymous Mon Jul 30 21:42:50 2018 No.3544291

>>3544257
We're friends because we have the same tastes and draw a lot of the same subject matter. We want a lot of the same things out of our work, and that's also the reason why it's so difficult to avoid comparisons.

I know the art I want myself to make, the issue is that I know people who are already making that art and I can't even wrap my head around how they do it. The art that's most appealing to me isn't mine, it's theirs- and I can't have it. I don't really think of it as wanting to surpass them(I can't really imagine someone being better than them anyway). I just want to feel like my work has merit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 02:23:21 2018 No.3544562 >>3544291 Not that anon but if these guys are friends why not just ask them to help you? You're sure to progress faster with mentoring than alone

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 04:24:32 2018 No.3544670 >>3544562 I've asked them, and they just give noncommittal answers or say they're just going by intuition. They don't think I need their help, and honestly it's not their responsibility to mentor me either way

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:21:20 2018 No.3544745

>>3544670
Not responsability but they're still cunts if you ask me. Or you are using the word friend very loosely
If they know thats how you feel then why don't they lend you a hand? Were they not at a level where they thought their art was bad and compared it to their favorite artists, like almost everyone did? If the skill gap between you and them is so huge why do they just go "you don't need our help"?
And what the fuck is "intuition" mean? Were they prodigy born good at drawing? Didn't they have to study and work for years like everyone?
What am I missing here

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:36:46 2018 No.3544761

>>3544745
"Intuition" in this case simply means that you don't learn things in a way that lets you easily articulate your process. You just kinda get a feel for certain things. I'm not that way at all but I imagine there are plenty of artists who are.

And they don't think I need their help because they apparently like my art, though I can't really fathom why.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 05:41:28 2018 No.3544766

>>3544761
That's stupid, even if one is not good at explaining things you'd have to be completely clueless to not at least be able to critique another person's work or tell you what and how they studies to get there
Also your art isn't worthless despite what you may see it as, I also think I suck but I know there's people that would like it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:50:22 2018 No.3544909 How do I decide on style? I want to do flat, rendered, b/w, colored, different style of line art, different stylization etc etc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 08:53:05 2018 No.3544911 >>3544909 set yourself little assignments. 'i want to make a 50s style poster for my comic story.'

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:06:09 2018 No.3544931
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Bit of clueless dumbass question but uh
Is copying a different skill from "normal" drawing?
I can't copy a face realistically nailing down the proportions 100% at all, but I have been drawing on and off for years and I'm not /beg/ tier anymore (not good or intermediate either but just saying), however I know of a girl that can copy and do a value study of a face very realistically, but she doesn't really study to git gud and I don't think she even draws aside from doing little paintings like that. If I had to guess, if she tried to make something like some stylized work, it would be beginner tier
She does art school IIRC so I think that's where she learned, a friend of mine also did art school and even though he also is not into drawing the way I am I saw one of his works now and then and he also did such things
So, yeah I'm just a bit confused what happened, do they teach you observation in art school and tell you to copy shit 1:1? Or what? I'm interested in that now that I've gotten more serious about drawing, hoping that recreating stuff like that from observation is going to improve my work from imagination

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:31:05 2018 No.3544966

>>3544766
A good chunk of artists don't know dick about why or how they did what they did. They only thrive in an academic setting by looking at the pictures. This isn't knocking anyone, some people are analytical and good at putting things into words and teaching, others come off dumb as a brick when you ask that kind of question but can easily extrapolate from example and lay out multiple examples.

It can be infuriating when you want to hear something like "I start with angular forms for men and round them while using harder contrasts with line and value to show where the form turns sharply away from the viewer. I also keep the shape language in mind the way you would a caricature and pay attention to how the sillouette looks and interacts with surrounding negative space." Instead you get some pointing and grunts at a drawing of it.

>>3544931
You learn how to copy from life, yes. Almost every artist before 80 years ago was taught how to draw statues or do bargue plates by observation with nothing but a pencil and a lead weight on a string. It helps immensely when doing construction as you can see when your lines are almost imperceptibly off on a face. No more twisted mouths or non-euclidean noses.

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 09:59:46 2018 No.3544999

>>3544931
>Is copying a different skill from "normal" drawing?
i mean yeah. when you're 'normal' drawing you're constructing something out of your head, so you have to remember how people are shaped, their anatomy, how much negative space to fit around the features to make it look good, composition....

>>3544966
yeah. a lot of people who had to learn via being untalented but hard workers make better teachers, because they can actually explain why they did what they did

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:08:04 2018 No.3545007 >>3544966 >>3544999 I have no way to study people irl except use a mirror, am I fucked?

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:14:22 2018 No.3545018

>>3544966
>>3544999
I get what you're saying but you can't be telling me an artist could not at least say what he studied or his daily practice routine or critique some work. What do they have a disability? Anyone can tell you these things no matter their skill level, regardless of ability to teach or explain stuff, unless they're a retard prodigy
I'm not trying to spread conflict through anon and his friends but if they hadwave his question like that they may very well simply not give a shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 10:57:09 2018 No.3545072 >>3544911 no no that's not the point. I always do pieces in different styles, but i want to settle on one. But they all soo nice...

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:01:46 2018 No.3545077
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>>3544909
>>3545072
I also have this, once in a while I see an artist with a style and I try to replicate it because I like it so much, but then after a little while it happens again with a completely different style
TLDR I like both western/realistic and animu and I don't know what to choose, so I do both at random intervals, and suck at both, and I have no idea what to focus on

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:15:35 2018 No.3545101

>>3545018
>What do they have a disability?
A significant number of artists are dyslexic or did shitty in school and drew instead. Quite a few have some degree of OCD.

My example was a bit hyperbolic, but still something I've seen. You have to figure that most art instructors have an MFA, which requires a verbal IQ of around 130 to get. That's 5 percent of the population, being generous. It's reading and writing intensive and involves vague concepts and interpreting a lot of technical drivel. The mean average person gets frustrated trying to explain how to do their own job in enough detail to replicate it.

Anon's friends may just be average people.

>>3545077
Ouiabeaux-style BD. Look at Regis Loisel or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:21:37 2018 No.3545106 >>3545101 >Ouiabeaux-style BD Sorry what

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:24:15 2018 No.3545109 >>3545106 Franco-belgian weebs who grew up on a diet of anime and manga as early as the 60s. There's a lot of influence in current yurocomic art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:34:46 2018 No.3545126 >>3545109 I guess I must be then What are some other artists like the one you mentioned? What is that, european stylized?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 11:34:55 2018 No.3545127 File: 281 KB, 1237x1600, LoomisLandmarks1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there a pic that maps the most common dimples and furrows on the human body and also explains what causes them?

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:03:47 2018 No.3545166
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>>3545126
Start with Hugo Pratt and go from there, not the same mix of styles, but his influence on eurocomics is obvious. I don't know much about eurocomics because I'm too lazy to learn french and pirate the good ones.

It seems to be a matter of starting from the idea of heavily rendered "realism" and being able to abbreviate features down to the usual anime symbols. Then you can work in the same "style" by varying how much you draw and render.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:20:58 2018 No.3545197 >>3535311 >>3539170 Everyone on here needs to directly look at their screen to draw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 12:53:11 2018 No.3545239 How does one go about animating on paper in this day and age?

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:05:46 2018 No.3545264

>>3545007
you're fine. most people on this board are the same. try photos.

>>3545018
not that degree of autism. but many artists, when you ask why they did whatever colour choice, or how they got the lines so good, will just go 'you just draw it that way bro,' because they can't remember or relate to what it's like to be as shit or new as you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:06:53 2018 No.3545266 >>3544284 dude how the fuck do you expect me to know what tablet you are talking about if you cant give me anything expect "the bigger one" i dont know every single tablet out there, thats why IM asking in the first place

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:25:59 2018 No.3545302 >>3545239 get a peg bar, one that works with hole punched paper, and sellotape it to something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:30:02 2018 No.3545308 >>3544931 The whole point of being able to draw from observation is having the technique and abilities to apply it to your own work. That's why majors exist. If you can't apply these abilities to a field of work, well...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:33:52 2018 No.3545319 File: 294 KB, 2175x2668, PoseIlike.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I take this pose I like and apply it to my own art without directly copying it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 13:35:54 2018 No.3545324 >>3545319 do it from a different angle lmao its not an "original" pose in the first place

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 15:41:34 2018 No.3545511 >>3545319 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KHLmBAWFvY

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 15:44:50 2018 No.3545515 >>3545511 this video looks hella scummy is it really that hard to make your own art with a diagonal composition ?

dampf Tue Jul 31 15:50:01 2018 No.3545522

>>3545319
okay so im thinking why would you directly copy it? and then i realize that you probably also make anime art, and you want the body of the girl to be more or less the same. so if this is the case, then whats stopping you from copying it, because there are like thousands of these images being churned out every month. If you want to see your own anime girl doing the same pose, just fucking copy it man.

>>	dampf Tue Jul 31 15:54:58 2018 No.3545524 >>3545319 >>3545522 okay and real advice: learn how to pose figures, and get yourself some independence from other artists work

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 16:01:13 2018 No.3545529 >>3544141 Create a new layer and set it to Color blending mode, or set your brush to that same blending mode

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 16:13:48 2018 No.3545538
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Thinking about doing the digital meme, what software should I use?

Is everyone just pirating photoshop or are there alternatives?
Would like to avoid piracy if possible

Probably a very frequent question, I will go search the archive

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 16:51:30 2018 No.3545570 What do I have to know if I want to make a comic?

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 17:29:15 2018 No.3545613
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Where should I post this kind of studies?
The draw general is not for this, and /beg/ will kill me
Also, Is there any reason to study like this? they take me reasonably litle time, and I enjoy them, but am I just grinding cubes like this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 17:29:55 2018 No.3545615 Does anyone have moderndayjames' gumroads?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 17:31:05 2018 No.3545617 >>3545613 Create study thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 31 17:49:14 2018 No.3545642 File: 470 KB, 750x730, 1532211935364.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3545617 will do

Anonymous Tue Jul 31 22:13:44 2018 No.3546027
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When's a good time to update to digital? I'm thinking it's when I've got a beginners level construction, shading, and basic texture. Pic related is probably my peak performance at the moment.

Also, I'm curious as to whether it's a good idea to go right away to a draw-on-screen tablet and skip the drawing tablets I've been drawing for months now (it's a hobby) so I also think it wouldn't be a bad idea to get something mid range in price just because I don't want to upgrade later and I see myself doing this for fun and never quite quitting this. Anyone with insight got some tips or advice to give with regards to these questions.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 02:27:56 2018 No.3546252

>>3545538
I personally dont use photoshop but rather CSP
IF you are ok with a bit of piracy
An anon posted a link >>3538023 its still active, you will have to mess around a bit to activate it since it needs a keygen etc but the instructions are in a (messy) readme. It didnt mustard gas my pc since i downloaded it so it seems safe
You can just try it and if you like it buy the official version. I wouldn't buy software like this before making sure its worth it for you, but you need to be careful of torrents and shady links

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 02:42:52 2018 No.3546270
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>>3543518

your gestures aren't dynamic which is why your finals are also not dynamic. you are deluding yourself.

see the parts of your drawing i highlighted in pic attached. don't draw like that. you might think it's dynamic because you're moving quickly and making zig zags. it still looks stiff so it doesn't matter how you feel. remember no one can see how you made it, they can only see what you made. its art not music. we only care what it looks like.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 02:43:54 2018 No.3546272 How to deal with performance anxiety? Do you ever get afraid of not being able to improve anymore after making decent progress in the beginning but then slowly getting stagnant before getting good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 05:28:04 2018 No.3546400 >>3545570 read scott mcloud's making comics, it should be in the book thread. that should be enough to start you off

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 06:21:35 2018 No.3546430

>>3534805
Is there any interest in non-animu cute girls these days?

I want to test for an audience with a few pieces I'm working on. I'm thinking of starting with DeviantArt and maybe 1-2 other platforms (instagram maybe?). It wouldn't be fully realistic but I just don't find animu appealing at all.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 06:30:05 2018 No.3546433
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How many hours do you guys sit every day? How do you offset that?
I have been sedentary all my life and lately I've been sitting for around 12 hours a day pretty much, between work and my hobbies
However I looked it up thinking this might be dangerous and its apparently really bad for your health to do this. And exercising apparently doesn't matter either if you still sit too long every day? Fuck!
How do I solve this? I don't want to have health complications because of my hobbies

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 06:32:25 2018 No.3546435 >>3546433 I was the same as you, but my parents got me polar watch for christmas a few years ago. It vibrates once it detects you've been still for too long. Really perfect for someone that becomes too concentrated on a task and forgets about time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 06:57:39 2018 No.3546443 >>3546270 >remember no one can see how you made it, they can only see what you made. its art not music. What did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 07:03:18 2018 No.3546451 >>3546433 I just started doing push ups every 1-2 hours at some point and now it's a routine that just works. It also helps your shoulders and posture a lot

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 07:09:25 2018 No.3546461 File: 66 KB, 854x821, Lorca_in_ready_room.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3546433 How about a standing desk?

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 07:14:58 2018 No.3546466

>>3546443
Hell, it applies to music. Jerky scribbles or big windmills on the guitar don't translate to the page or music as anything but garbage. No one can see the formal cause, the time it took, your mindset, how you felt doing it. Good musicians barely move, everything you see is just an act.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 07:50:07 2018 No.3546482 File: 41 KB, 358x496, weeb shit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The pelvis and left hip here look really off but I don't have the vocabulary to describe it. Can an anatomy expert chime in?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 08:01:16 2018 No.3546488 >>3546482 Anatomy expert here. The leg is too short.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 08:08:01 2018 No.3546492 >>3546482 there's several ways of thinking about it where it's fine 1. you have to think of it a bit like a stretch/bleed frame in animation 2. hyper-extension of butt meat 3. very exaggerated secondary sexual characteristics (hit-to-waist ratio)

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 08:12:35 2018 No.3546498 File: 61 KB, 358x496, 1533124207034.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3546482

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 09:47:30 2018 No.3546608

>>3546443
>no one can see how you made it

it means no one can see how you made it

>they can only see what you made

it means they can only see the end result of what you made. art isn't a performance like music where you can watch them "make" the piece in real time. no one watches you while you draw they only see the final product. yes of course a trained artist can see how you made it, but no one else can and that's who you're showing it to anyway.

fuck it amazes me that you think you're fucking clever and yet here I am explaining basic entry level shit to you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 09:50:03 2018 No.3546612 >>3546252 Thank you Anon! I looked at the archive and am currently trying out Paint Tool Sai since it's described as being entry level and simple everywhere I looked

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 09:52:10 2018 No.3546615

>>3544162

i've used a 6x8 graphire 4 for the past 10 years. they cost 20-50 bucks on ebay used. i don't agree that it has to be as big as your screen. any size is going to be an advantage over using a mouse.

>>3545319

copy the pose in three dimenions. rotate accordingly. remember that drawings are pictures of something that inevitably exists in three dimensions. you don't have to limit yourself to copying the graphic design of the drawing, you can copy the object that the drawing depicts too. this is a better way of thinking generally anyway since it frees you from the limiting nature of the modernist gaze.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 09:52:18 2018 No.3546616

>>3546608
>art isn't a performance like music where you can watch them "make" the piece in real time

How stupid, art is a performance. You don't see the hundreds of hours put into assembling the piece. The art of creating music has the same issues as the art of creating drawings. No one will see the process, just the final piece. Even if they did see the process, only the final piece would realistically evaluated none-the-less outside of the toddler-tier handling of "you worked hard good job" compliements.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 09:58:43 2018 No.3546623 >>3546616 >How stupid, art is a performance. artists do not perform in front of an audience. musicians do perform in front of an audience. you are just beating your head against a wall trying to argue against this.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 10:01:13 2018 No.3546624

>>3546482

the anatomy is not off enough to get me to not masturbate to it, so I think you're in the clear!! remember: the purpose of the drawing is always more important than the anatomy!! don't be a petty anatomyfag. they are worse than people who correct other people's spelling and punctuation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 10:14:59 2018 No.3546640 >>3546435 >>3546451 >>3546461 Thank you all I will look into these

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 10:31:17 2018 No.3546651 >>3546624 but if the purpose of the drawing is to get you to fap to it, it should also not be off enough that people get distracted by the anatomy instead, yes? granted, this threshold is different from person to person.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 10:38:50 2018 No.3546659 >>3534805 >Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Question: What type of questions deserve their own thread on /ic/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 10:43:37 2018 No.3546662 >>3546498 this is wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 10:54:59 2018 No.3546680 short question: Is the perineum the lowest point of the torso?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 11:30:19 2018 No.3546718 >>3546027 >When's a good time to update to digital? Now, it takes years to get to get to the same level as your pen & drawings, might do it now and keep grinding at the same time, you'll get the hang of it, don't expect to be good tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 11:31:41 2018 No.3546722 >>3546451 How many anon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 11:32:52 2018 No.3546726 >>3546659 stuff that gets a conversation going. questions that can't be answered a billion times over searching the archives

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 11:36:22 2018 No.3546730 >>3546433 I go to the gym 3 days of the week and do StrongLifts 5x5

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 11:55:10 2018 No.3546752 >>3537174 Download hyperpose from last artist standing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 12:17:30 2018 No.3546779 >>3534805 Is it worth to spend 150 on an old intuos 5 M if I could get the same size for less money from some other brand?

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 12:39:58 2018 No.3546804

>>3546722
Just as many as you're comfortable with, do them slowly and with good form instead of going for as many as possible,
I started out with almost non at all and now a few months later i do 30 right after i get up and then 15-20 every 2 hours and 30 before going to bed. It takes a few weeks to notice big changes but overall my back and shoulders are definitely way bigger now and my posture is 1000% better.
Just keep a straight line with your legs and back during the push up and start your arms at shoulder with, eventually you'll be able to bring them closer together and do harder push up variations. And don't overdo it at first or you might snap a nerve. Just go for as many as feels right, even 2-3 realy slow push ups every 2 hours is a good start.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 13:18:15 2018 No.3546881 >>3546804 Rigth. I'll try ,thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 13:57:55 2018 No.3546916 >>3546451 >>3546804 Should I find an alternative to pushups if I have RSI? It's now a toss up between not working out or potentially fucking up my drawing arm and wrist even more

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 14:32:04 2018 No.3546966 >>3546916 Free-Weight Squats

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 17:09:32 2018 No.3547163 File: 52 KB, 800x600, DjcHwQeV4AAPv5M-orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Requesting translation

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 17:10:05 2018 No.3547164 File: 37 KB, 768x768, DjcH3MrUYAAy1oF-orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3547163

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 17:24:44 2018 No.3547179 >>3547164 Paraphrasing heavily >Orange is the predominant transition color >Desaturate form shadows >Blue on the bottom

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 17:31:10 2018 No.3547188 >>3547179 Thanks. That really helped.

Anonymous Wed Aug 1 17:40:57 2018 No.3547201
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>>3546270
I don't think we are working with the same definition of a "gesture" i'm not talking about under drawings.
I'm talking about really fast sketches. You slamming all of the information down quickly, its so you only focus on the major forms. that's why i'm scribbling, cause large dark areas with an ink pen kinda suck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Aug 1 22:54:19 2018 No.3547516 File: 333 KB, 1068x591, brushy brush.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hi is there any brush like this for Clip Studio? I really like the look of it and i want it. he gives it away but it's only for Photoshop so that doesn't work.

Anonymous Thu Aug 2 03:32:44 2018 No.3547742

>>3545538
Clip Studio has sales where it goes for $25. It's an absolute steal at that price or $50 for all it does. Photoshop CC is also very reasonable. I don't pirate anymore either so I bought both. If you choose the photography plan it's PS + Lr for $10/mo. Well worth it in my mind to not worry about issues with piracy such as tablet problems, random bugs, or worrying about malware.
https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/plans.html?single_app=photoshop

>>3547163
Ultra Street Fighter 2
Street Fighter 3

Anonymous Thu Aug 2 08:09:24 2018 No.3547945
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>>3547201
not him but your shadings are all over the place. try to keep to 1 direction, more compact, and use a softer medium. and frankly most of the time quick gestures don't need shading so cut that out and focus on the pose

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 09:49:16 2018 No.3548040 File: 541 KB, 706x1000, Rude sketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3547945 never can find a sharp pencil when i need it, plus there's no fixing the line you make. No illusions of perfection.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 10:41:27 2018 No.3548082 File: 67 KB, 800x800, 1532089228860.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where can I start learning color theory?

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 13:38:25 2018 No.3548242 >>3546651 its true some people are gay and nitpick anatomy very true.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 14:56:35 2018 No.3548308 Is there a proper way to make home made tone paper for drawing ? I'm planning to try staining my printer paper with coffee but I'm wondering if the paper would be good for drawing after that process

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 2 19:57:40 2018 No.3548629 What are the things that sell the most if you're working only on digital? Besides porn/furry

Anonymous Thu Aug 2 22:25:47 2018 No.3548757
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I want to go on a journey.

I want to be friends with a crow, and travel across mountains... Crows are cute

Aside from the fact that I haven't left the house for years, how should I build up the skill to draw well enough so that I can go outside and at least sketch any beauty around me? Help me

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