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i entered a group about some famous-not-famous artist were their fans (some of them) get angry with him for leaving and erasing all of his stuff from the internet, like really disappear, and there was a guy who get really pissed with him for not being thankful enough to his fans for the years they were admiring him, some others say he should have his reasons to make it, the only thing he said before leave was that he have personal problems and for a long hiatus finally he erased everything

i see a lot of japanese artists doing this, erased everything and start all over again, even if they were frigging famous

so what do you think about those artists who disappear overnight?
they have to say what happens or not? is it okay or disrespectful?
would you do that? and if you already did , why?
those who make this desition should announce their new page if they make a new one?

>> No.3534555

>it's their choice
>they owe no one anything. any commissions done, product was recieved -> payment given. donations are DONATIONS. can't possibly sit there and thank every single individual for liking your work
>no
>again, their choice

ultimately asides from the screeching autists, who cares?

>> No.3534557

>>3534551
Allowing people to do what they want even if you don't agree with it is an important part of a free society
Instead we should look at the reason why they choose to leave

>> No.3534558

>>3534551
Depends, do those Autists respect you as the artist or your art? Minus points if they think with their dickbrain and are just sexually frustrated. If the former, they would understand, if the latter, well they never really cared about the artist anyways then.

>> No.3534584

>>3534555
>>3534557
>>3534558

exactly, i thought the same, but seeing those fans so pissed it make me think about if maybe they have some reason from their point of view i wasnt seeing, i mean i always get kind of mad when some artist erase their stuff, but i dont whine about that, but this artist in particular was really active, and actually i remember he was answering like 100+ comments everytime he uploads something, and even make little tutorials on those comments, or even jokes drawings just to answer a pun with their fans

i was wondering cuz it's sad thinking maybe the artist has his own right to do whatever he wants, and if he is having a hard time still has to give all for his fans, it make me think if it isnt that the main reason to leave afterall haha

>> No.3534595

>>3534551
Bouguereau disappeared in 1905, no one ever saw him again

>> No.3535087

Artists owe nothing to their fans except what their fans pay for (and I mean pay FOR, not donate money to charitably). It's the most intolerable sort of entitlement for people to get actually angry at someone for doing something with art they made on their own time.

Disappointed is one thing. If an artist you like vanishes that sucks, there are lots of artists I wish drew more/wish didn't stop posting, but being angry at the artist is childish and self important.

Obviously an artist screwing you out of a commission or something and skipping town is another matter entirely.

>> No.3535112

Japs do it because they're autistic about people (westerners) reposting their fan doodles due to a sekrit club mentality and a bunch of unwritten community rules that dont make any sense. Or they nuke their account for personal reasons (their identity got revealed, old art was shit, prayed the gay away). One fetish artist did it because he wasn't getting enough asspats. His twitter persona was retarded and combined with the content of his works, not someone you'd want to interact with.

I don't really have a problem with artists that delete fucking everything, they can do what they want. It's when they go full retard nuking accounts and making new ones that I lose interest in keeping up. It's always butthurt or a bad case of "shit or get off the pot" and I don't respect those. Or commission scams like anon mentioned, it's one thing to be a lazy hobbyist but bailing on paid work is painful to watch. There's a relationship going on and actions have consequences, ones other artists fail to accept.

>>3534584
>he was answering like 100+ comments everytime he uploads something, and even make little tutorials on those comments
The thing he enjoyed was causing burnout. He probably didn't like his hobby becoming a chore. Stepping back is hard for those kinds of people.

>> No.3535114

I think they take themselves way too seriously.

>> No.3535149

>>3534551
>would you do that? and if you already did , why?
I have. I wasn't a famous artist at all, but I felt like some of the stuff I drew gave my name a certain image, and I couldn't bear it anymore. I needed a fresh start.
joke all you want about shadman, but he must feel similar to that.

>> No.3535223

thus is internet life. if you want people to be bound forever to their fame, follow normie celebrity news and stalk their families like the other nolifes.

>> No.3535385

>>3534551
I'm fine if an artist leaves or doesn't post anymore work. It's their life, they don't owe me anything I'll be sad of course. I just hate when they delete everything. I usually only save my favourite images but I like going through the whole gallery every once in a while.

>would you do that? and if you already did , why?
I have. I wasn't famous or anything but I still feel pretty shitty about it. I just woke up really depressed one day and just stopped giving a shit about everything. When I got over it a year had passed.

>> No.3535411

>>3534551
Seriously why the fuck do they do this. I've been following a five-hour had a 10 year old blog and then he just deletes it one day for no fucking reason.

I'm inclined to think that theyve been doing art for so long that their attachment to their work is that of a flea. If that's the case then I'm 20 years away from understanding their feeling.

>> No.3535443

Freud was abandoned when he changed his style. Like, you know, people are fickle.

>> No.3535603

>>3535411
>Seriously why the fuck do they do this.
>>3535385
>I have. I wasn't famous or anything but I still feel pretty shitty about it. I just woke up really depressed one day and just stopped giving a shit about everything. When I got over it a year had passed.
>>3535149
>I have. I wasn't a famous artist at all, but I felt like some of the stuff I drew gave my name a certain image, and I couldn't bear it anymore. I needed a fresh start.

>> No.3536918

>>3534584
bro, he's a human being. The people you admire are no better at not burning out of wanting to quit than yourself.

>> No.3536973

bagboss did it because of daddy issues

>> No.3536989
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3536989

>>3535385
>I'm fine if an artist leaves or doesn't post anymore work. It's their life, they don't owe me anything I'll be sad of course.

I miss the daily work of Gary Larson and Bill Watterson.

RIP Dave Trampier. We never got to see how Wormy was supposed to end.

>> No.3536999

>>3536973
really I thought he was just an alcoholic tell me more

>> No.3537009
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3537009

You're all a bunch of self righteous entitled faggots who believe the world owes you something for simply "following" someone. Want to know why people pack up and go? Because you are insufferable to the point it becomes embarrassing and unbearable and despite the years of being active it's still a decent trade off when you compare having to put up with faggots like you.

Nobody asked for your bouts of autism, your internet buttstalking, your cringey praise and dick sucking. Kill yourselves.

>> No.3537196

>>3534551
It was minus 8 wasnt it

>> No.3537280
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3537280

>>3536973
it's a mixture of both things, he used to get drunk and post things like this

>> No.3537282

>>3537280
ooops meant to quote >>3536999

>> No.3537283

>>3537280
kek

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3537284

>>3537282
i thought he killed himself at first

>> No.3537294

>>3537284
dam hes cute

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3537303

>>3537294
Way out of your league, you filthy roastie cunt. You're not about to corrupt him with your vile and putrid STD ridden cunt so why don't you hop back on Tyrone's dick and fuck off he's way too pure for the likes of you.

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3537304

>>3537294
nigga looks like a dad nowadays, bagboss became his dad

>> No.3537306

>>3537303
>What did he mean by this?

>> No.3537308

>>3534551
>find favorite nip artist on pixiv
>he hasn't updated since 2015
>stop following him/assume he's dead
>last week he updated
wew...

>> No.3537325

Whatever, I just download the whole gallery if I really like the artist. ALTHOUGH I still can't get over one dick that stopped drawing and the last works he did are behind a paywall (~600 dollars total), he's not even that good, damn, jut got me with the stories and style. Looking at his old stuff before bed and crying a little sometimes.

>> No.3537341

>>3537303
based

>> No.3537446

>>3535149
he does? I dunno. he seems to simply accept his mistakes (what he's ashamed of), apologise, learn from it and move on. really chill guy.

>> No.3537450

>>3537304
id still domme him

>> No.3537466

My favourite japanese artist has not posted a single thing since the 2011 tsunami.

It got him, didnt it...Part of me wants to believe he used it as an excuse to do something else with his life, or that he'll come back one day.

Deep down i know its over...

>> No.3537987

>>3537325
i do the same anon x'D, save the whole gallery and looking to em remembering those time were they where active

>>3536989
wwooo the ones who passed away are the worse :(
i will always miss Panamaman Y-Y

>>3537466
sometimes i feel the same to some persons, actually last week i find the tw of an jap artist i used to admire years ago and the last photo is a photo of his room in a hospital, sad af :/

>> No.3538073

>>3537987
you must be 18 or older to use this site

>> No.3538343

>>3537446
well, he does probably realize that his name now has a certain image to it, and he's locked to drawing certain things because of it. if he suddenly started drawing something else unrelated (mlp art for example), he'd lose most of his followers who didn't follow him for that, and he wouldn't get new followers because they heard of the famous shadman-the-pedonazi and they want nothing to do with him.
he may be ok with this, but he must be aware of it.

>> No.3538406

>>3538343
A lot of illustrators and fine artists fall into this and get trapped. They develop a niche and can't get out of it when trends change or they change. They end up typecast. It breaks a lot of people, just look at anyone on the sci-fi convention panel circuit. Shad-level PR issues aside, a lot of artists have maintaied two separate portfolios, long before the digital age, to separate very similar output because notoriety as one thing typecast them in other endeavors.

I feel that worse than being hemmed to your old work would be losing creative control. I'd probably delete everything and fuck off to greener pastures if I had a single identity and portfolio that had become leashed to the whims of clients. I think I've seen more artists do it for that reason than anything else. They start in a niche that classy degenerates adore them for, start getting followers and commission money, start appealing to a broader audience of plebs and alienate their original fans, can't post work they actually enjoy and have fans and clients they don't like, and finally burn it all to the ground and start over. I don't pretend to know shit about Shad, but I don't think he's in that position.

>> No.3538450

>>3534551
I've done it before, I had a small following for a niche fandom, people were kind of pissed. I was pretty severely depressed at the time- "I'm a worthless piece of shit, this is shit, my work is absolute shit, I want to die" was pretty much my thought process for a few years. Refunded all of my commissions, profusely apologised to said commissioners for stringing them along for weeks/months without results, was pretty sure I was going to jump in front of a train in the very near future at the time so I didn't care about my reputation.

Doing a lot better now, I guess it freed me up to broaden my art horizons in that I'm not limited to that subject matter alone anymore.

>> No.3539551

Actually the artist do owe the fans to some degree...

They post their art online for attention and this is the way they get it. Without people to look at the art it is worth nothing in this case. Hell, they just draw endless fanart and porn to get attention. I mean its not like they are on all the social media sides for attention.

They join a community, and that is a two sided engagement. Being an artist is a craft, it's not some holy inspired thing. It depends on people to consume it. ie. look it once and forget about it because single art pieces cant stand out in our oversaturated media age.

Sure fanboys are retarded and ask too much, I wont deny that. But to say that they cant get any credit or gibs for helping building the artists ego/fame/persona is just dumb.