/ast/ Anime Study Thread 9

[Anonymous No.3507582]

No rules just tools if you want to learn how to draw anime you should draw anime more drawing less shitposting remember it's summer edition

This is the place for:

1. Participating in anime group studies:
>Mindfully break down the reference in various ways instead of mindlessly copying.
>Make multiple copies. It should get easier each time. If not, reevaluate your methods.
2. Posting your individual anime studies:
>They should be studies drawn with a reference or tutorial.
>Provide the reference used if you can.
3. Serious discussion about emulating anime style art:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Keep most of your personal works for /ALT/ or the other critique threads. Here we should be drawing copies from good references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

General Art Overview: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz_mE9a29gsEd09TemJMNTJMWGs

Recommended Reading:
Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson
>How to see, measure, and copy. Being loose and confident with your lines.
Figure Drawing for Artists: Making Every Mark Count by Steve Huston
>Simple and effective method for constructing the figure.

Drawing Form:
The Drawing Database: https://youtu.be/sOlwDL8HtT0
DrawABox: http://drawabox.com/article/construction
Sycra: https://youtu.be/tsdkhQis34U
https://youtu.be/sESuWJlWmxM

Art Study Advice:
https://youtu.be/1pvZPpQxGQY
https://youtu.be/Rc6lWwLfzjQ
https://youtu.be/CRb2jgCQG88

Previous thread: >>3488037

[Anonymous No.3507587]

>>3507582
What anime is that from? Comic girls?

[Anonymous No.3507588]

>>3507587
Correct.

[Anonymous No.3507589]

[Anonymous No.3507593]

The only Japanese link in OP is pretty disappointing , it's just tracing and coloring

[Anonymous No.3507605]

Hey guys I have been doing some background work similar to making photoplates for matte painting and while doing that I discovered a menu that I hadn't realized was there in Photoshop.

At the top under image there is an adjustments tab, aside from variations which is very cool and a easy way to visualize and compare different color grading for images there is one option called hdr toning that has some options which make your work have a nice clean inked looked with some subtle screen tone thrown in.

I highly recommend it and would like to post some results I have gotten but I am at work and unable to do so.

Try it out and you will see. Also I believe there was a manben episode where the artist uses a similar technique for making the backgrounds

[Anonymous No.3507614]

Urasawa Naoki no Manben, a show where Naoki Urasawa and a Mangaka watch the footage of a day of work of the Mangaka, as they discuss it along

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na071k7e978&list=PLum0bqOrYCFMzUjeThuuRnbDzcMuVyK5g

[Anonymous No.3507621]

>>3507614
Nice.

[Anonymous No.3507623]

Anime Tutorial Sites:
https://www.pixiv.net/howto
https://sensei.pixiv.net/
https://www.palmie.jp/

Books:
https://yande.re/forum/show/10527

Sankaku Complex Tags: https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/?tags=color_trace
>how-to_guide, character_sheet, expression_chart, turnaround, concept_art, production_art, color_trace, anime_coloring, fake_screenshot, 80s, 90s

Head Drawing Tutorials:
Steve Huston: https://youtu.be/2T7cDY7YDsg
http://babelab.blogspot.com/2011/11/feature-creep-constraining-face.html
Doxy 1: https://youtu.be/b69fyAZGl50
Doxy 2: https://youtu.be/asL9PxCUEiw
Doxy 3: https://youtu.be/UZvEzjYYQFE
Ahmed Aldoori Hair: https://youtu.be/-SYIPBS2F0k

Real-Time:
DokiDoki Drawing: https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY-tGAhulrOzRd6n1mLZwSg/videos
Pixiv One: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLulf7UObD28VWM2kRb7keI6_lbxQgm4jC
AnimeSijyuku: https://twitter.com/animesijyuku
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRYuHKwhgfCighvhR3n151w/videos
SeAL_Morita_Eihirei: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2vxffrDVPmAlKvMu5nDEd6yx3-W68T1a

Suggest some other resources that are useful for anime studies.

[Anonymous No.3507858]

How do I learn to draw with contour like the japs?

[Anonymous No.3507865]

>>3507623

I got a question about copying.
Sure, I do copy and study a lot of my fav art, but sometimes I just get so bored. It's not lack of discipline, but sometimes when I copy fav work, I just feel I learned nothing.

However, I do the enjoy the processes a lot of trial and error, drawing said character in different poses while seeing the model sheet as references. Would that be okay to do? Or is avoiding the copy processes not a good idea?

[Anonymous No.3507882]

>>3507865
Do more of whatever else you gotta do so you don't get bored. The japs consider copying a form of practice and they do it a lot.

[Anonymous No.3507888]

>>3507882
Yea, that's why I feel "guilty" for not copying when I feel like I should. I understand the important when it comes to studying a subject/style, but at times I just wanna draw whatever.

Thanks for the reply, yeah, I should do what don't get bored doing.

[Anonymous No.3507956]

>>3507593
Tracing in combination with freehanding will improve your freehanding skills pretty fast. This includes using some type of proportional tool to copy an image or from life.

>>3507865
I agree with >>3507882. You should be drawing what you want along with studying what you need to in order to get better. If all you do are studies, you will struggle when it comes to actually applying them. Which you may have seen a lot of threads pop up on /ic/ about this. Creativity, is also a learned skilled that needs to be exercised.

[Anonymous No.3507974]

Just how the fuck does anime work? I know the most common answer around here would be to study real life but there's shit that they do that does not happen in real life at all. Like making the farthest eye flatter and wider in 3/4th views

[Anonymous No.3508011]

>>3507974
let's just study real life + traditional asian art + manga art

[Anonymous No.3508020]

>>3507974
you should think of it as flattened perspective, not making eyes wider etc. flattening perspective is a very common technique historical, very common for faces where certain design elements like symmetry and expressive detail become more important than a naturalistic depiction

[Anonymous No.3508026]

>>3507974
Studying from real life isn't enough. If you want to draw like a particular artist, then you have to learn from their art, regardless of the style. If you don't, then you'll come to your own conclusions and invent your own unique style. This is ideal for most artists on /ic/ but it's not what we're striving for. Never studying anime artists will only turn you into another pseudo-anime artist that you see a lot in the English-speaking realm of the internet.

So explore, experiment, and compare. Copying is just one method, but it's important to be invested in the medium so that you have an idea of what you're striving for. Find artists that you like, reverse-engineer their work, and then try on your own. It doesn't really matter how you do it. All that matters is how your drawings look in the end.

[Anonymous No.3508137]

>>3507974
To figure out how anime works you need to study anime. Real life helps, but it won't make you draw anime better.

[Anonymous No.3508316]

>>3507956
>Creativity, is also a learned skilled that needs to be exercised.

Never thought of it like this. Thanks, anons.

[Anonymous No.3509038]

How do I draw frilly stuff

[Anonymous No.3509151]

>>3509038
Draw some squiggles. You're done.

[Anonymous No.3509595]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3s6dXed31Y

How do they do it.

[Anonymous No.3509624]

>>3509595
Guaranteed they've drawn those exact features 100s of times and are just mixing and matching to create new characters.
That's really all you should focus on, because that's really all that drawing is after a certain point.

[Anonymous No.3509636]

>>3509624
> because that's really all that anime is after a certain point.

let me just fix that for you lil guy

[Anonymous No.3509646]

>>3509595
Anyone know what brand makes these mechanical pencils with thicker barrels? I like using my graphgear but it's way too thin for my giant hand.

[Anonymous No.3509669]

>>3509595
Just draw more, bro ;)

[Anonymous No.3509978]

>>3509646
Consider just buying a pencil grip. They come in many different sizes and you make any pen/pencil comfortable to grip with these. They also prevent blisters on your fingers.

[Anonymous No.3510704]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUBCCRCPkjA

If this basketball person can draw anime so can you.

[Anonymous No.3510831]

>>3507623
I’ve only watched the first Doxy video but Jesus Christ was it all over the place. Video was literally done on the fly with no prep going into the video. My expectations were were brought way too high after the Steve Huston video.

[Anonymous No.3510866]

>>3509595
Damn if I could draw like this I would do nothing else all day

[Anonymous No.3510867]

>>3510704
I'm too stupid to learn to do anything....

[Anonymous No.3510873]

>>3507582
>>3507623

Studio Trigger opened a Patreon:
>https://www.patreon.com/studioTRIGGER/overview

They plan on making drawing streams like Yusuke Murata does.
Maybe somebody can rip the streams when they come out?

[Anonymous No.3511000]

>>3509669
Well... yes.

[Anonymous No.3511096]

>>3510873
yiff.party

[Anonymous No.3511102]

>>3510704
damn, he is really good

[Anonymous No.3511109]

>>3511096
Is the site down?

[Anonymous No.3511124]

>>3511109
Yes.

[Anonymous No.3511148]

>>3511124
Good.

[Anonymous No.3511174]

>>3509595
Once you get a feel on how the process works, you get comfortable enough to cut the bullshit. So ironically, as >>3509669 shitposted, just draw more

[Anonymous No.3511181]

>>3511174
To add to this, don't let speed of these videos amaze you too much

[Anonymous No.3511186]

>>3509595
a year from now youll all look at this and think its shit, guarantee it.

[Anonymous No.3511359]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaNAOUJ3qOU

No really how do they do it? I see so many jap artists just jump straight into the drawing without drawing mannequins or construction lines or anything.

[Anonymous No.3511367]

>>3511359
American cartoonists do this as well. Once you draw something so many times, it can become easy to draw like that.

[Anonymous No.3511368]

>>3510704
Holy shit. How is he so good? How do I get this good? Absolutely loved the way it’s colored. I wouldn’t mind being able to do that with colored pencils. It’s beautiful. I can do this too right?

[Anonymous No.3511454]

[Anonymous No.3511521]

>>3511359
Constructions are for learning. Once you're good you shouldn't need constructions unless you have to draw an incredibly precise and realistic portrait, multiple characters from a complex angle and such.

[Anonymous No.3511539]

>>3511368
Stop posting and get to drawing.

[Anonymous No.3511588]

>>3511454
Pretty

[Anonymous No.3511627]

>>3511454
So cool, wish I was at this level.

[Anonymous No.3512229]

does someone have that pic of how different ways to draw big boobs under clothes

it was a shirt iirc

[Anonymous No.3512240]

>>3512229
do yall need a tutorial for everything why don't you just look at picture of clothed big boobs

[Anonymous No.3512249]

>>3512240
no tutorial , it was a image of different stylized ways of drawing it , i kinda know how to draw clothes but in that pic there where like 3 or 5 ways to draw it not even a tuto, it was posted here if im not wrong

[Anonymous No.3512257]

>>3510873
>Studio Trigger opened a Patreon:
Holy fuck. Really?
What a bunch of fucking losers. lol

[Anonymous No.3512368]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30114123

Found a bunch of Kuroboshi Kouhaku's live sessions. You can find the rest by searching 黒星紅白お絵かき配信

[Anonymous No.3512388]

>>3512257
you do realize that even top tier animators often get paid very little, right?

[Anonymous No.3512511]

[Anonymous No.3512523]

>>3507974
NOOOOOO. DON'T COPY ANIME. IT WILL BE BORING AND GENERIC. STUDY LIFE, AND YOUR STYLE WILL BE UNIQUE.

[Anonymous No.3512525]

>>3512523
Can I copy hentai?

[Anonymous No.3512527]

>>3512229
This?

[Anonymous No.3512531]

>>3512525
KILL YOURSELF

[Anonymous No.3512598]

>>3512527
thats exactly what I was talking about , but the pic i wanted was with a shirt but this works too thanks anon

[Anonymous No.3512633]

>>3510704
His pic is middle east.

[Anonymous No.3512638]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD7iKD0yUS0

[Anonymous No.3512734]

>>3512523
>YOUR STYLE WILL BE UNIQUE.
But I don't want that. I want to draw just like all the good jap artists.

[Anonymous No.3512755]

>>3512368
Jesus, the way Kuroboshi draw is so effortless and fluid. How do I become like him?

[Anonymous No.3512761]

>>3512734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_IODIIYAe0

[Anonymous No.3512768]

>>3512755
He's 44 and been doing this for years

[Anonymous No.3512912]

>>3512768
That gives me a bit of hope

[Anonymous No.3512927]

>>3512768
I wonder if I will care about anime when I'm 44

[Anonymous No.3512930]

>>3512927
Probably not

[Anonymous No.3513036]

>>3512633
Even better.

[Anonymous No.3513066]

>>3512633
Oh, he almost had me thinking a black guy could draw like that.
There goes my sliver of hope and motivation...

[Anonymous No.3513075]

>>3513066
There's a black guy on that dokidoki drawing channel and he draws better than the amateur jap artist.

[Anonymous No.3513076]

[Anonymous No.3513080]

>>3513066
How big is anime among black american guys?
I think you need a good understanding on traditional chinese/japanese art and also in composition in order to have an authentic asian look in your art. I wonder how many black americans are this much weebs.

[Anonymous No.3513081]

>>3512257
>losers
yeah man, the guys that left GAINAX to do the shows they wanted shouldn't get money to do exactly that, but instead work on garbage like Franxx to pay the bills
obviously becoming corporate monkeys instead of trying to get funds from the public that appreciates their work is the worst choice here, haha

[Anonymous No.3513218]

these are quick sketches

[Anonymous No.3513223]

I'm looking for good resources on shading and crosshatching.
Can anyone post some?

[Anonymous No.3513305]

>>3513223

[Anonymous No.3513358]

>>3513218
lmao

[Anonymous No.3513383]

good to refine and move on? or is something about it awkward

[Anonymous No.3513384]

>>3513383
why is her tit an immovable object

[Anonymous No.3513403]

>>3513383
wtf is wrongnwith the right tit, head face is kinda fucked mirror the image and you may see it

[Anonymous No.3513966]

>>3513384
She could be resting on her back or maybe rolling to her left arm

[Anonymous No.3513977]

>>3513966
If she’s on her back the perspective makes no sense. If she’s laying on her arm that’s not how her boob would sit. In any situation the boob needs to be moved. Unless it’s an immovable object and the universe exists around it in which case it’s fine

[Anonymous No.3514035]

>>3511186
Joke's on you, I already think it's shit.

[Anonymous No.3514058]

>>3513977
Maybe she is moving or rolling her body to face to her left

[Anonymous No.3514144]

HOW
DO
I
DRAW
ANIME

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.3514152]

Don't mind the red censors because I wrote my real name on it lol, I'm too enthusiastic and genuinely surprised that I can copy much better just by reading some /beg/ books and occasionally draw real life scenery/faces. I used water color pencil for the first two and charcoal for the last ones

[Anonymous No.3514165]

>>3514152
This is embarrassing to look at and would actually be improved with lined or grid lined paper, in an unironic way.

[containercore !o3a0NktvbA No.3514213]

I tried to learn about anime head proportions. Looked at the Yoh Yoshinari sketch books for reference, some copied some from imagination.

[Anonymous No.3514229]

>>3514165
Isn't using drawnly lined/grid lined paper make me not improving myself as an artist? Also I do use guide lines to grasp sizes and positions, I just don't draw them

[Anonymous No.3514284]

>>3514152
nice

[Anonymous No.3514357]

>>3514213
You need to learn better construction. Even anime faces have bones and muscle and fat. There was a book posted showing this that I cant remember right now. The point is youre going nowhere fast drawing a circle and a line

[Anonymous No.3514533]

[Anonymous No.3514590]

>>3514533
sugoi

[Anonymous No.3514592]

What does /ic/ think of whytmanga on youtube? He's black I think and his stuff looks pretty anime to me.

[Anonymous No.3514594]

>>3514592
>name is white manga
>has videos on what if x was black
Really makes me think

[Anonymous No.3514595]

>>3514594
Yeah it's funny stuff.

[Anonymous No.3514625]

>>3514592
He's okay, but there are better artists to learn from

[Anonymous No.3514640]

>>3514625
Like who? Genuinely curious since there's not many english videos on yt from people who can draw convincing manga.

[Anonymous No.3514670]

>>3514640
Oh if you're looking for English ones then yeah there aren't many. I was talking about study in general, like you can find a lot of better artist demo vids to study from.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY-tGAhulrOzRd6n1mLZwSg/videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na071k7e978
I think these are the closest you can get to English-translated "authentic" anime/manga tutorials. I'm not sure if there are others, so let me know if I'm missing some

But other than that you can find a ton of video demos from really top-of-the-line Japanese artists like Hamada Yoshikadu, Kouhaku Kuroboshi, etc.

[Anonymous No.3515467]

>>3507974
Studying real life conditions you into a mindset that allows for studying other kinds of artstyles easier. You can't rely solely on the laws of real life and expect it to be 1 for 1 as another art form. You still need to study what you want to make after learning how to do real life. So here's what you should be doing. Study real life, THEN study anime. This comes from personal experience.

[Anonymous No.3515520]

>>3515467
Don't be afraid to study the old masters either.
There are some exceptionally cute girls in the old paintings.

[Anonymous No.3515550]

>>3507858
squint

[Anonymous No.3516200]

>>3514144
this but unironically

so far all i've done is spent like 3 weeks tracing pictures of anime characters' faces and heads i think are cute. i draw the lines for the jaw in a choppy, crappy way and my eyelashes are just scribbly messes. i want to say its because i dont have any custom paint tool sai brushes but the truth is probably that i just suck dick.

someone in a previous thread said i should try to recreate a character's head i can draw from a different viewpoint or angle without tracing for practic, but i get discouraged when i draw a head and it looks completely retarded, so i just go back to tracing while trying to forget the fact there are 11 year olds on deviantart who draw anime way better than me.

[Anonymous No.3516216]

>>3516200
>3 weeks

[Anonymous No.3516226]

>>3516216
I don't have a time machine. i wish i started drawing when i was younger but i didn't. so i started 3 weeks ago when a tablet i ordered on amazon came in.

i spend a couple hours tracing anime for 3 weeks. i don't expect to be good. i don't expect to know what i'm doing. but i want to draw cute anime people and when i can only draw disfigured cretins, i lament. what do you want from me?

[Anonymous No.3516230]

>>3512927
I hope I do.

[Anonymous No.3516231]

I apologize in advance for the massive filesize.
Does anyone have any good literature/tutorials for drawing motion and "speedline" techniques as used in shounen?
I've been studying action manga pages but all it boils down to for me is "spam think parallel lines in the direction of the movement", but I can't find any good terminology or discussion of this in any books.

[Anonymous No.3516233]

>>3513081
>Franxx
The problem with that show was they obviously deviated from the original storyline because they were afraid of losing their audience by having extreme consequences for their characters.

At least it inspired me enough to draw Zero Two. She really was a good character.

[Anonymous No.3516234]

>>3516233
This drawing has a nice charm to it.

[Anonymous No.3516237]

>>3516226
I hate to be that guy but along with drawing anime you should learn some fundies, they will make your anime look way more authentic once you learn how to turn your brain into a 3d renderer but also implement the stylistic aspects that anime demands.

[Anonymous No.3516238]

>>3516234
thanks frend. I did a couple Franxx drawings. It had good characters and a great setup. Fucking Trigger. Only show they've made I liked all the way through was Space Patrol Luluco.

[Anonymous No.3516273]

>>3516233
>afraid of losing their audience by having extreme consequences for their characters.
I didn't watch it but Kill la Kill also didn't have anyone die or anything so I think trigger just doesn't like killing off characters

[Anonymous No.3516274]

how long before you can draw like this?

[Anonymous No.3516284]

>>3516237
i am doing the 250 box challenge but i hate it so i intermittently trace anime heads while chipping away at the box challenge.

i really really want to learn how to draw anime faces but i dont know how to use paint tool sai brush settings so i use the default pencil which looks like crap and i have to ctrl+z 20 times before a line looks okay

[Anonymous No.3516298]

>>3516274
For me? A life time. For you? Up to you to figure it out.

[Anonymous No.3516316]

>>3516284
>box challenge
You need to read the essential /beg/ books
If you have trouble with lines mess around with the stabilization setting and turn the canvas when you have to draw a line in an uncomfortable position

[Anonymous No.3516319]

when do we get to draw anime

[Anonymous No.3516320]

>>3516238

[Anonymous No.3516404]

>>3516319
Right now!

[Anonymous No.3516410]

>>3516233
the director was writing the plot on the go, or rather, was finalizing it. Killing off characters would be the normie thing to do literally when you have no other plot ideas, and you don't want to meet the expectations of every pleb out there, right?

[Anonymous No.3516499]

>>3516274
1 month

[Anonymous No.3516552]

Did this today, not used to post outside of /beg/ so no bully please. I just know my hands are terrible but except from that what am I missing ?

[Anonymous No.3516556]

[Anonymous No.3516564]

Not used to post outside of beg so no bully please. Any thought (except for the terrible hands) ?

[Anonymous No.3516573]

>>3516564
arms too short neck too long eyes too close together

[Anonymous No.3516577]

>>3516573
wrong file oops

[Anonymous No.3516587]

>anime
>study
ITT: People who are NGMI

[Anonymous No.3516588]

>>3516577
>>3516573
I see, particularly concerning the neck. Thank you (this new face though).

[Anonymous No.3516611]

studying mogeko/deep sea prisoner.

[Anonymous No.3516612]

>>3516274
About a year to a year and a half

[Anonymous No.3516619]

I drew this from imagination
I hope I can draw animu like the pros someday

[Anonymous No.3516628]

>>3516619
Cute, keep going.

[Anonymous No.3516660]

>>3516226
You're not really learning much if you just mindlessly trace. First go read some Loomis or some other beginner tier anatomy book, practice the head construction for example, and then go trace, but don't just mindlessly trace. Try to draw the construction of the piece you're copying. Observe how other artists construct, and eventually you'll get it.

[Anonymous No.3516661]

>>3507582
I don't think anime is good for studying since it's all about budgeting and making something easy to animate. I do studies of mangas, since the entire aesthetic is captured in each page.

[Anonymous No.3516664]

>>3516226
People spend years, if not decades honing their skills, and you motherfuck want everything on your 3rd damn week?! What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.3516665]

>>3516661
I'm pretty sure this thread is just jap art in general.

[Anonymous No.3516712]

So do you guys only do studies, or have you tried doing your own anime/manga style compositions yet?

[Anonymous No.3516714]

>>3516587
(You)
By the way, what is "make it?" I don't want to draw tumblrwatch concept art for Blizzard or anything. I just want to draw obscure animu waifus doing foot fetish stuff

[Anonymous No.3516729]

>>3516661
anime is used an umbrella term for eastern art

[Anonymous No.3516737]

The kuru toga is such a nice lightweight mechanical pencil, no wonder practically every jap on youtube uses one of these.

[Anonymous No.3516746]

>>3514533
still more money than i have on my account

[Anonymous No.3516747]

I don't know about you guys but drawing anime heads from different perspectives is the hardest part for me by far.

[Anonymous No.3516774]

>>3516747
but its super easy, like 40% of them are just slightly tweaked front views

[Anonymous No.3516788]

>>3516774
Even from above and below?

[Anonymous No.3516790]

>>3516611
The lower the eyes the younger they look

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC3ZZwdr4qk

[Anonymous No.3516794]

>>3516790
or could be in chibi form

[Anonymous No.3516797]

>>3516794
I was quoting the video i posted

[Anonymous No.3516816]

>>3516320
Unironically thank you

[Anonymous No.3516818]

>>3516587
>needing your art so you can make it in life

Should've gotten into software engineering if making it is such a big deal to you.

[Anonymous No.3516820]

>>3516320
is there anything for how to draw braids?

[Anonymous No.3516821]

>>3516714
>>3516818
NGMI

to be honest i am drawing animus too :^)

[Anonymous No.3516854]

>>3513080
Bigger than you may think. I'm passing by more and more basketball weebs every day. I mean, it was a black guy that made Boondocks after all.

[Anonymous No.3517086]

>>3516660
>Observe how other artists construct, and eventually you'll get it.

How can I learn how other artists construct anime heads? pixiv?

[Anonymous No.3517093]

>>3516790
>mushroom is favorite food
S L U T

[Anonymous No.3517103]

>>3517086
How about loomis?

[Anonymous No.3517110]

>>3517103
if I need to find how other artists construct anime heads at a later point anyway, then why am I not allowed to find such examples now?

[Anonymous No.3517221]

>>3517086
Watch them draw on yt

[Anonymous No.3517233]

>0 knowledge of both digital and coloring
>Only better at doodling than others a little bit
>Get asked to do promotional work

Somebody tear me a new one
For starters, I know I used two different shading styles, which I probably shouldn't
Also did a shit job at it

[Anonymous No.3517246]

>>3517233
holy shit why would somebody ever paid you ,you suck , probably your mom

[Anonymous No.3517255]

>>3517233
is that a joke

[Anonymous No.3517267]

>>3517246
>>3517255
No, its not paid.
Just students fucking around

[Anonymous No.3517271]

>>3517246
>>3517255
But still, I agree its shit

[Anonymous No.3517296]

>>3517110
You're going about it wrong. Anime is just stylized realism. Learn realism and you can apply the same construction to stylized work. You think you're looking for a shortcut that'll just teach you to draw weeb characters but the reality it'll just hamper your learning process.

[Anonymous No.3517347]

>>3517296
It's more of a morale thing than a "I want a shortcut" thing. For my own personal egotistical reasons, I want to get to a point where I can draw passably decent anime heads before I dedicate an enormous block of time to studying 3d space and perspective.

You can do the same thing in other aspects of academics. You don't need to learn how to derive the quadratic formula to know how to use it. You don't need to derive Gauss's Law from Columb's Law to know how to use it.

Yes, you'll make your math and physics professors want to cry if you don't have a clue how these things are derived, but let's not pretend they are fundamentally necessary for practical applications.

[Anonymous No.3517384]

>>3507974
Everything in anime is based on real life.

[Anonymous No.3517389]

>>3517347
Art isn't math.

[Anonymous No.3517405]

>>3517389
90% of the people on this board have no idea what they're talking about and just come here to talk down to others despite their statements making no sense

[Anonymous No.3517458]

i'm gittin good at everything except lineart. how do they do it?!!

[Anonymous No.3517487]

>>3517458
Line confidence and csp

[Anonymous No.3517492]

>>3517487
I do only one trace, and I know for a fact gorgeous lines existed way before CSP was even Manga studio.

[Anonymous No.3517532]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBXwqQzXIc4

[Anonymous No.3517540]

>>3517492
Line confidence homie

[Anonymous No.3517543]

>>3517540
aint easy, that why I'm bitching here.

[Anonymous No.3517551]

>>3517543
Keep grinding fampai. Practice drawing straight and curvy lines as a warm up. Go do the first lesson of draw a box

[Anonymous No.3517555]

>>3516611
Oh god not you again

[Anonymous No.3517605]

>>3510704
This guy's not a great artist, he's just another Eritrean pervert drawing white lolis

[Anonymous No.3517671]

What are some decent paint tool SAI brushes specifically for sketching?

>inb4 "a good artist can make art with a mouse and ms paint"

Okay, but they don't. They use paint tool SAI brushes and I would like to know those settings. Why are artists so mental?

[Anonymous No.3517697]

Why can't I draw anything.

[Anonymous No.3517704]

>>3517697
you're too busy posting on here

[Anonymous No.3517776]

Anyone know where I can find a collection of tutorial images?
like >>3516320

[Anonymous No.3517785]

>>3517776
I just collected all of mine from this board.

[Anonymous No.3517794]

>>3517785
how many do you have? would you mind uploading them somewhere?

[Anonymous No.3517832]

Has anyone here ever tried to make a short animation?

[Anonymous No.3517839]

pencil and paper is easier than computer drawing, how do I get good at mouse?

[Anonymous No.3517998]

>>3517839
>mouse
Seriously anon, use your shitty phone at least

[Anonymous No.3518284]

>>3517103
>loomis
I don't think Loomis' method applies to anime entirely, some of his guidelines don't make sense like having the space of one eye between the eyes, that doesn't work because the eyes in anime are larger

[Anonymous No.3518387]

How do i draw/colour like this

[Anonymous No.3518410]

>>3518387
>mecchi's ugly ass OC

[Anonymous No.3518413]

>>3518387
scribble random complementary colors into shadows
use sai marker and water tools

[Anonymous No.3518414]

>>3518387
Is he cutting himself with a strawberry?

[Anonymous No.3518474]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbUrjRpOopE

[Anonymous No.3518543]

>>3518474

[Anonymous No.3518667]

>>3516274
Whenever you feel like it.

[Anonymous No.3518674]

>>3518474

[Anonymous No.3518689]

>>3518474
the hand is horrible

[Anonymous No.3518797]

>>3518474
whats that thing he uses to shade the face

[Anonymous No.3519057]

>>3518797
it's called a finger

[Anonymous No.3519148]

>spend a couple hours tracing anime heads each day for a few weeks
>try drawing my own
>eyes are asymetrical, ears are deformed lima beans, jaw is misshapen

[Anonymous No.3519151]

>>3519148
Now start drawing them from imagination, one after another. Finish one and immediately onto the next one.
Eventually it'll just click for you. Just draw may be a meme on here but it works.

[Anonymous No.3519160]

>>3519148
What have I been telling you faggots. Stop copying anime.
>>3519151
>lol just draw bro!
The absolute state

[Anonymous No.3519187]

>>3519160
post work.... oh nononononon

[Anonymous No.3519192]

>>3519160
>What have I been telling you faggots.

Nobody knows who the fuck you are retard. Either post work or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.3519199]

>>3519148
Use a construction method and guidelines. Since you are tracing, it should be even easier to come up with an accurate method you can follow since you can just overlay it on top. Start with big shapes (both 2D and 3D) and then fit smaller shapes inside that. It's best to alter someone else's construction like Steve Huston's so that reinventing everything. After that copy (without tracing) the anime heads starting with just the big shapes when you get that down focus on getting the smaller shapes in correct proportion to the big ones. Do that long enough and the proportional relationships will be clear enough in your mind that you can draw it on your own with less mistakes.

>>3519160
>It's anime's fault!

What he's doing would fail in the same way even if he was drawing anything else.

[Anonymous No.3519219]

>>3519187
>>3512877
>>3519192
>post your work!
>t-that'll show them! heh...
Stop copying anime.

[Anonymous No.3519221]

>>3519219
Looks like trash desu, did you copy paste these eyes off something?

[Anonymous No.3519225]

>>3519219
>wont post work
> just redirect some other anon work

oh okay you are just a crab

[Anonymous No.3519242]

>>3519160
>What have I been telling you faggots.
you've been telling people to use triangles for mouths

[Anonymous No.3519290]

>>3519225
Right, keep spinning that wheel but no matter how fast you run you will never get anywhere.

http://i.4cdn.org/f/Suffering%20Train.swf

[Anonymous No.3519309]

>>3519199
How do I learn a construction method specifically for anime heads

Ideally I would like to learn a construction method used by a japanese artist but i am hopelessly useless when it comes to navigating pixiv howto

[Anonymous No.3519313]

>>3519309
Check youtube. A lot of them tend to divide the head in half instead of thirds. Start a yt playlist and add all the jap drawing videos you can find so youtube's jewrithms give you more.

[Anonymous No.3519317]

>>3519313
What specific japanese words/characters should I search for to find tutorials or speed paints that include the construction phase

[Anonymous No.3519318]

>>3519317
I have no idea. I started watching some jap tutorial in moonrunes and followed the youtube recommendations from there.

[Anonymous No.3519324]

>>3519318
Care to link some? Specifically ones that construct and draw males. Asking for a friend definitely not for myself haha

[Anonymous No.3519328]

>>3519324
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1HEpFr5nzw&index=34

This seems like a good one, now follow the breadcrumbs.

[Anonymous No.3519380]

>>3507582
anime is so fucking hard. i tried to copy the fairy tail eye style since everything else is confusing and i somewhat like it but i don't know if its anime enough.

[Anonymous No.3519381]

>>3519380
I like it. Keep it up.

[Anonymous No.3519630]

>>3517776
pixiv or pinterest

[Anonymous No.3519731]

>>3519380
lol

[Anonymous No.3519738]

>>3519380
fix your chicken scratching brother

[Anonymous No.3520496]

>Copy anime
>Struggle
>Watch Steve Hutson's head video on youtube
>Copy along, take notes
>Copy along during the Old Master studies
>Do examples at end a few times
>Go back to anime. Draw. Finally see the errors and how to adjust them

I thought fundies was a meme!!

[Anonymous No.3520541]

>>3520496
holy shit man you are so smart how nobody thought this go make a thread about it now!

[Anonymous No.3520564]

>>3520541
I know you're joking, but you'd be surprised how many people on this board don't realize how effective this is.

[Anonymous No.3520614]

I was going around on youtube and I found this small channel by a japanese guy who's making videos about the nature of manga and he translates some of his videos and answers questions. He's very new and not exactly a professional when it comes to instruction, but he's willing to answer the questions of foreigners and translate so I don't think /ast/ should miss the chance to perhaps ask him about stuff like why western anime/maga looks like hammered shit.
>inb4 stop shilling your channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIf8FtUSagYnvkRD-SFrVBg

[Anonymous No.3520665]

>>3507974
Anime is an abstraction of real life features and relies a ton on shape language.

First, you must understand what it is that you are drawing. Real life will obviously give you that.

Next, you must understand shapes and how they interplay with each other. How bigger expressive eyes give off emotion, how a rounder shape exhumes femininity, and angularity gives a sharp, manly look. How the angle of the eye lashes completely changes the personality of the character.
These things make or break an anime drawing and define the style.

[Anonymous No.3520809]

>>3516231
Well, do it like this guy and draw the full picture and add lines after the fact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVjSUgZ_khc

[Anonymous No.3520861]

I want to draw traps.

[Anonymous No.3520872]

>>3520861
best do life studies of flatchested androgynous short haired tomboys, once in a blue moon there's threads of these delicious boyish girls on /s/ but they're rare.

[Anonymous No.3520885]

>>3520861
>>>/cm/
>>3215139

[Anonymous No.3520889]

>>3520885
shit meant to link >>>/cm/3215139

[Anonymous No.3520940]

>watching random nips draw on yt
>none of them draw a figure mannequin thing first and then put clothes on it they just draw everything as they go.

How do they do it.

[Anonymous No.3521001]

>>3520940
They are far advanced beyond that point. You won't need guidelines forever you will eventually be able to guess accurately enough.

[Anonymous No.3521100]

Already practice traditional stuff, but don't really know what type of excercises to do to practice anime style. What do you guys do?

[Anonymous No.3521310]

>>3521100
Studies but everytime someone posts a study some autist whines
>stop copying anime stylize real life instead

[Anonymous No.3521321]

>>3521310
post your studies
everyone's just too scared to post

[Anonymous No.3521324]

>>3521321
They're in the thread

[Anonymous No.3521329]

>>3521321
not him but theres not much to post the main difference between animu and western is how they draw faces and do lineart the rest is p much the same and i think the majority is still learning the basics

[Anonymous No.3521346]

GIVE ME PAINT TOOL SAI BRUSH SETTINGS FOR SKETCHING

[Anonymous No.3521351]

>>3512229
one more

[Anonymous No.3521357]

>>3521351
first one is already max size. anything past that is body horror.

[Anonymous No.3521358]

>>3521346
open wide baby boy
https://www.deviantart.com/beroleagle/art/Paint-Tool-SAI-Pencil-Brushes-96742060
https://www.deviantart.com/honeyxpoison/art/PAINT-TOOL-SAI-PENCIL-BRUSH-No-Download-571956790
http://ptsbrushes.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.3521361]

>>3521358
I was hoping to be spoonfed brush settings japs use

[Anonymous No.3521364]

>>3521361
they're just brush settings, anon. The magic is on the brush user

[Anonymous No.3521370]

>>3521364
>a skilled artist can make good art with a mouse and ms paint XD

you're so clever. but wait. but they don't use a mouse and ms paint. just like the japs use specific brush settings which i would like to copy instead of copying 15 year olds on deviantart.

[Anonymous No.3521379]

>>3521370
anon..

[Anonymous No.3521385]

>>3521370
>but they don't use a mouse and ms paint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3wj13eP89g
now fuck off

[Anonymous No.3521386]

>>3521370
>but they don't use a mouse and ms paint
nice strawman there brainlet.The difference between a mouse and a drawing tablet, is whole worlds, the difference between your brush and the brush being 3 pixels wider and having 1% more presure smoothing is fucking miniscule. It comes down to your fucking preferences you dumb retard. It would be a difference if you were talking about photoshop templates that make your brush print leaves or something but you are talking about simple pen and blend tools in sai here. If you cant utilise those then all the professional gear in the world, all the brush settings in SAI cant help you get good because you fucking suck ass if you think your stupid argument had any ground.

[Anonymous No.3521394]

>>3521370
>>a skilled artist can make good art with a mouse and ms paint XD
fucking retard leave this board if you seriously cant handle the simple brush settings in SAI then you are ngmi anyways.
Also, the pro japs use real pen and ink. Why dont you get those?

[Anonymous No.3521403]

>>3521370
a pro once used a penis shaped brush to finish a self portrait. what's your excuse?

[Anonymous No.3521416]

>>3521370
>you're so clever
He starts with and proceeds to shit out nonsensical dribble like a 16 year old in his rebel phase would.

[Anonymous No.3521417]

>>3521370
you write like a teenage girl

[Anonymous No.3521426]

every day theres some retarded ngmi fuck on this board asking for brush settings when its obvious as fuck the artist theyre admiring is using a default hard round

[Anonymous No.3521584]

You guys sure showed him, GMI

[Anonymous No.3521650]

Are there any videos of Masamune Shirow working? He is my favorite artist of all time and my personal hero, it would be lovely to see his process.

[Anonymous No.3522026]

r8 some weekend drawings

[Anonymous No.3522034]

>>3522026
shit

[Anonymous No.3522037]

>>3522034
<3

[Anonymous No.3522122]

So how can I draw relatively fast with high details like him? Who inspired him?

[Anonymous No.3522188]

>>3522026
Nice job on the copies, anon. Now try to some ractice from your imagination too

[Anonymous No.3522197]

>>3522188
they're all from imagination except the bottom left one which is https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=4321116
thanks i'll keep at it !

[Anonymous No.3522287]

First time I've sat down and drawn something for fun since I was a kid. Clearly I didn't trust my eye enough with regards to Takagi's enormous forehead, among other things.

[Anonymous No.3522398]

>>3517794
check the links in the artbook thread op

[Anonymous No.3522403]

>>3522026
LOOMIS

[Anonymous No.3522423]

>>3522287
this is the first time you've drawn since you were a kid

[Anonymous No.3522556]

i tried doing the eyes and hair and still have problems with it. what do you guys think

[Anonymous No.3522568]

>>3522556
your lines lack confidence

[Anonymous No.3522662]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwMjPlMShYA

[Anonymous No.3522677]

>>3522287
nice trace job homes

[Anonymous No.3522727]

>>3522556
let me guess, over 20, male, neet, browses /a/ and /r9k/, never kissed anyone

[Anonymous No.3522731]

>>3522727
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.3522742]

>>3522727
Kissing anyone other than the person who becomes your spouse is degenerate and repulsive.

[Anonymous No.3522766]

>>3522742
what about kissing your mommy

[Anonymous No.3522800]

>>3522766
>not marrying your mommy

[Anonymous No.3522829]

>be noob
>skip loomis and other "fundamentals resources" and dive straight into Hitokaku
>rote copy the featureless polygon humanoid figures (even though i can't consistently draw basic 3d shapes)
>everything looks retarded
>hoping eventually "it just clicks"

[Anonymous No.3522835]

>>3522829
At least learn basic perspective and freehand primitive forms sketching first

[Anonymous No.3522860]

>>3522835
Perspective is the work of the devil

[Anonymous No.3522865]

Does anyone else have problems of drawing really small? Should I be using more area of the paper/canvas? What are some exercises to change this habit?

[Anonymous No.3522890]

>>3522865
you should always draw on a larger canvas

[Anonymous No.3522958]

>>3522865
Drawing large is always such a bitch since it's really easy to lose track of the proportions and really hard to keep the composition tight & cohesive. Thank god I don't have to deal with that digitally though

[Anonymous No.3523139]

>>3516577
Think about the way the shading denotes the form of the body, especially on the hips

[Anonymous No.3523152]

>>3522865
stand up by the canvas, move back to assess the whole picture. don't be a virgin sitter

[Anonymous No.3523266]

>>3522188
>this sentence
am I high when I wrote this or something

[Anonymous No.3523290]

>>3522556
try the draw a box lessons, it might take some time, but it should improve your line work

[Anonymous No.3523338]

>>3523266
Try to some ractice your typing, anon

[Anonymous No.3523401]

>>3523266
>am I high when I wrote this
You're still high, anon

[Anonymous No.3523560]

Tips on how to make better face ?

[Anonymous No.3523564]

>>3523560
that face looks alright the hair is p lame though the question is can you draw it from different angles, if you can't then back to loomis hell

[Anonymous No.3524581]

>>3522829
Nothing wrong with the bulk of your studying being focused on anime, just make sure to think of things in 3D and draw your anime figures with basic shapes.

[Anonymous No.3524589]

>>3522829
you don't have to immediately study a full in-dept lesson about perspective. Try to at least see the humanoid blob in 3d. Try to rotate the figure in your mind and imagine how it would look like

[Anonymous No.3524801]

>>3524581
>>3524589
WHY IS IT SO HARD

[Anonymous No.3525103]

[Anonymous No.3525158]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2W7MmWlZFY

[Anonymous No.3525169]

>>3524801
oof

[Anonymous No.3525189]

>>3525169
fuck u

[Anonymous No.3525202]

>>3525189
my condolences

[Anonymous No.3525206]

>>3524801
Look, I feel ya.

If it helps, trace and actually make an effort to show contours and forms.

But really, fundamentals helps. It's a painful grind, but it does.

[Anonymous No.3525220]

God I wish I were a cute anime girl.

[Anonymous No.3525244]

>>3525220

[Anonymous No.3525250]

>>3525220
>>3525244
consume less $0ybeans. start lifting weights

[Anonymous No.3525264]

>>3524801

[Anonymous No.3525269]

>>3525264
most anime xeroxers want to draw the "x" version cus they think it emulates their nip idols the best, and it often does

[Anonymous No.3525283]

>>3525264
Fuck I keep drawing the 'x' version. I need to practice more

[Anonymous No.3525289]

>>3525103
She's a qtp2t, anon.

[Anonymous No.3525291]

>>3525103
Cute!

[Anonymous No.3525292]

>>3525283
I really struggle with feeling the form of anime faces, because they're so simplistic I'm never sure what to show and what to leave out in regards to my lines and shadows

[Anonymous No.3525294]

>>3525264
Appreciated

[Anonymous No.3525295]

>>3522026
Interesting choice of expressions. Do you watch K-On or something?

[Anonymous No.3525303]

[Anonymous No.3525305]

>>3525303
jesus christ

[Anonymous No.3525307]

>>3522727
Tell me this isn’t common place.

[Anonymous No.3525310]

[Anonymous No.3525570]

>>3516712
bump
post your OC work, /ast/. Let's see those gains

[Anonymous No.3525916]

>>3525264
For me it's X with O's face unironically

[Anonymous No.3525961]

http://animator.main.jp/anime_club.html

I found this while searching around. It's an online class where Japanese animators give lessons and critique your "homework" among other things. Has anyone done this? Is it legit?

(I've been doing my Loomis's, don't worry)

[Anonymous No.3526066]

>>3525295
i have seen k-on yes. i guess the slightly confused/ tired look is how i feel most of the time lmao

[Anonymous No.3526068]

>>3525961
>/ic/
>taken a minimum $300, 3 month online anime drawing class