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3471961 No.3471961 [Reply] [Original]

>"It's about watching the masters work and do exactly what you see RIGHT NOW. After you watched their video."
>"Don't think that you're so far from the level whoever you're watching, and that you have to work day after day to get better. NO. Think of it like- I can do it, the same way the master does it.. RIGHT NOW"
>"You have the same body, so you can do the same things, right?"

>ignoring muscle memory
>hand eye coordination
>visual library
>unique perception
>sense for design
>creativity
>artistic value
>personal technique
>personal thought process

Did he just completely lose his mind?

>> No.3471965

he is literally trying to make people overconfident so when they try and fail they get frustrated. sign up for his course only $50 a week

>> No.3471984

>>3471961
actually as a painter myself, what he said its true. its exclusively in your head. draftsmanship does help but its not how you make good paintings. its a digusting thought process that takes years to master

>> No.3472019

>>3471961
exactly what i was thinking op. i usually think boro is okay but its like hes trying to trick people
"these professionals dont struggle"
JUST

>> No.3472041

>>3471961
>watching this dummy instead of med and sinix
LOL

>> No.3472053

>>3472041
all three of them suck ass

>> No.3472253

>>3472019
right? No matter what is your power level at art, you are always struggling.

>> No.3472536

>>3471961
Borodante is shit at painting/drawing. Don't watch too much of his videos, you'll regret it. Also your english will suffer from that.

>> No.3472556

rofl, you people find the shittiest things.
while he has a "good mindset", he is just plainly wrong, stupid and egocentric. i feel sorry for anyone actually watching this shit and trying to "learn"

>> No.3472567
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3472567

>claims he can plaint like ruan jia
lel no

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>>3472567
holy shit ruan, what are u doing..........

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>>3472567
oh no no NO NO NO

>> No.3472578

>>3471961
Awesome mindset.

>>3472567
Nice! A new piece from Ruan Jia.

>> No.3472590

>>3472567
How many months did this one take

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>>3472567
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.3472602

Dunno man i might have bought his argument if he used even more jump cuts

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>>3472567
so that's why I haven't seen any ruanfag threads lately...

>> No.3472606

>>3472567
i love it <3

>> No.3472624

>>3472606
Are you retarded? The only thing he did was spend a shit ton of time on rendering a boring undynamic and unengaging picture.
That's also exactly what it looks like - weirdly overrendered.

>> No.3472629

>>3472624
you mad bro :)?

>> No.3472630

>>3471961
>remember stumbling upon one of his videos trying to git gud at digital painting
>that part in the video where he says "NEVER PAINT WITH SILHOUETTES"
maybe that should've been my first red flag

>> No.3472643

>>3472567
It was nice until I noticed the bit at her crotch looks like an ornate, dingy maxipad.

>> No.3472671

>>3472643
>ornate, dingy maxipad.
you what?

>> No.3472677

>>3472671
A feminine napkin

>> No.3472683
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3472683

>>3472567
Man, I miss the old Ruanjia.

>> No.3472699

>>3472677
i know what that is asswipe, im saying it looks nothing like that

>> No.3472723

>>3472683
those pauldrons don't make sense

>> No.3472765

>>3472723
They do in the world of Blizzard games, which this is official artwork for.

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>>3471961
There is some merit to what he is saying even though he is completely ignoring your points.

Most people watch a tutorial/process video almost as an entertainment instead of trying to analyse what and why the artist is doing. When i started I didnt even try to apply the lessons I learned after watching.

If you dont apply some concept you just learned, regardless of how easy you think it is, it will fade from memory. Nothing sticks until you start drawing/painting while applying what you learned from a video.

But what he is also missing is there are principles the artist is considering which you cant understand just by watching them paint. You might learn their techniques but not the principles.

>> No.3472985

>>3472971
"The end justify the means."

Even though that attitude is a bit delusional, it will accelerate your learing. Instead of having a long term cloudy goal that doesnt inspire action , you start actually doing something if you believe what he says.

>> No.3473022

>>3471961

He's still intermediate at most, so I don't really see how he has any business teaching.

>> No.3473028

>>3473022
those who cant do, teach

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>> No.3473078

>>3473022
He said it himself, people kept asking him to make tutorials. And I agree with the other anons - the point he's trying to make is "make use of the tutorial right now when watching it"

>> No.3473096

>>3473078

That's ok Borodante, I don't hate you or anything

>> No.3473099

>>3473060
>brainlet sheep audience

hi what's up

>> No.3473127

>>3473028
>those who cant do, teach
I don't know where this retarded phrase came from to be honest, it makes no sense. Those who can't do, can't teach either and those who can do, not always can teach because that's hard.

it should be:
Those who can't do, can't teach either because they're incompetent in that field. Those who can do, sometimes can teach but not always so take care who you take teachings from.

>> No.3473133

>>3473127
you would think that, but look at every single teacher from kindergarden up to highschool. Even a shit ton of Prof's dont have a fucking clue how to really do the work and just have the answer key. The original saying came out of fields other than art, but still applies well. Most teachers are mediocre at best, because the really good artists are too busy, you know, actually making good art

>> No.3473135

It's the most amusing thing when people who know nothing act like experts.

>> No.3473137

>>3473133
hmm makes sense.
In retrospect, the saying doesn't mention that they can teach, just that they do. "Those who can't do, teach", not "Those who can do, can teach"
I agree though, most teachers are mediocre and this is on every field. Unfortunately art has a lot less actual scientifically established material so it becomes more apparent when teachers are incompetent.

>> No.3473142

>>3473133
all my art instructors in college also did art outside of the classroom, werent famous or making millions but did real art. figure drawing did enormous beautiful portraits, fundies teacher did huge abstract pieces, digital art had a one of a kind themed digital art gallery created a decade before digital exploded.

im blogging and its anecdotal but my instructors knew their shit and were extremely talented

>> No.3473146

>>3473133

Same thing with psychologists and therapists. They're often the most deranged and fucked up people of all.

>> No.3473162

>>3473146
Psychologists/therapists are the most annoying people on earth by far. They don't know fuck all, are usually stupid af and based on pseudo-science, and at the same time think they're the shit and that they're Hannibal Lecter or something.
When I was young my parents forced me to go to a psychologist and I shit you not the fat cunt was a self declared anti-vaxxer. Kept talking about how there's "top of the line research about how children get autism from mercury in the vaccines".

Also, why are all female psychologists fat? I don't think I ever met a female psychologist who wasn't overweight. And on that same subject, why are fat women usually cunts? I don't know a single fat girl who's not a complete unbearable cunt, and my anecdotal sample size is quite large both figuratively and literally speaking.

>> No.3473173

>>3473162
sounds like you have a lot of personal problems stemming from this one shitty person thats impacted the way you think of every other person like her

or your fat aunt diddled you or something

>> No.3473176

>>3473146
>>3473162
let me guess, you're americans.

>> No.3473180

>>3473176
Sound like edgy teens from NA that think their limited experience is the universal experience

>> No.3473194

>>3473173
She wasn't the only psychologist I ever met or the only fat girl I've met, far from that, unfortunately. I did CompSci and the building right next to mine was the Psychology ward, so I've known quite a few psychologists both students and graduated, and they're always full of themselves and full of shit with their pseudo-science.

Also, my aunt unfortunately didn't diddle me but I wish she did because she was hot af and not fat at all, so joke's on you

>>3473176
Nope, not a burger otherwise the fat girl population in my anecdotal survey would be exponentially higher.

>> No.3473217

>>3473176

I'm from northern europe. Why do you think they become interested in psychology in the first place? Because they tend to have a lot of problems on their own.

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>>3472683
are you sure?

>> No.3475620

>>3473176
Let me guess, you'll be fodder in the coming struggles