/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3458848]

I found a goldmine of tutorials by Wei Feng, some critiquing his students in depth about things like lighting. Would be great if a chinabro would translate these

[Anonymous No.3458849]

[Anonymous No.3458851]

[Anonymous No.3458852]

[Anonymous No.3458859]

>>3458848
Where did you find this anon?

[Anonymous No.3458866]

>>3458848
it really tickles me when things davinci invented (sort of) are applied to anime girls.

anyway pretty great thread

[Anonymous No.3458869]

>>3458866
ahh yes davinci invented light

[Anonymous No.3458870]

>>3458859
weibo.com/1686296773

[Anonymous No.3458873]

>>3458870
also very in depth tutorials here, you have to click on the lower right clickable words of every post to see more of it http://blog.sina.com.cn/fengc12

[Anonymous No.3458879]

>>3458869
yes, he did. the concept of emulating light and shadow to create the illusion of volume, and many other lighting effects such as atmospheric perspective.

or are we not allowed to credit da vinci with genius because 500 years later it seems so obvious?

[Anonymous No.3458882]

>>3458879
those are things of nature that have always been there. someone was going to realize them sooner or later, it's not "davinci's thing being applied to anime girls"

[Anonymous No.3458883]

>>3458882
yes it it you fucking idiot, jesus christ this website. if you do something first you're the guy who invented it numbnuts.

i mean fucking hell read a book, look at some art, jesus.

[Anonymous No.3458885]

something about character design

[Anonymous No.3458888]

>>3458883
well done, trolling is my art too

[Anonymous No.3458895]

>>3458879
i guarantee someone was trying to make "light stuff look like and dark stuff look dark" far before him

[Anonymous No.3458916]

>>3458851
Damn, this guy is skilled at lighting. How do you even learn it like this?

[Anonymous No.3458938]

I don't speak chinese, but I OCR'd the text and put it though google translation. It's shit, but you can get the point.

>>3458849
The growth of light and shadow skills requires individual practice. It is like the well-known “Ao painting method”. That is to say, independent light and volume mask relationships require us to accurately and completely solve the volume calculation of light first. Well, this time we will explain the parts of the light and shadow control separately through the revision of the student's homework.

The following is a student's black and white relationship work, the effect is undoubtedly unsatisfactory, the main problem is that the division of body mass is not clear (here refers to the black and white gray camp division is not clear), after the establishment of the relationship does not have a unified face In terms of elemental terms, it is said that body masses are not pushed flat. And the main problem is that the scope of the light and the division of the system are not clear.

<To the right of the image>

Problems that arise

1: The division of black and white gray is not clear
2: Uneven uneven relations
3: The range of light and shadow is not clear
4: The system of light is not clear

(The system of light refers to the number of lights, and the rule of single light attenuation)
The following is an annotation of each problem location and comparison

<Under the image> Reverse case
Question 1:

<Left block of text> We can clearly see that in the upper left corner, there is hardly any judgment on the dividing line between light and dark, that is, black and white ash.

<Middle > Blue represents the black area, yellow represents the white area, gray of course also represents the gray area, the red line represents the light and dark boundary line, the bottom of this picture is to tell you that a clear body mass separation will bring you good feelings

[Anonymous No.3458939]

>>3458849
<Right> In the upper right corner, this boundary is clearly defined

Question 2:

Pushing injustice is a very well-understood issue. You can clearly see the parts in the left three blocks. It is uneven and very messy. Touching the brush means bad painting habits, causing unnecessary contrasts. Chaos caused broken flowers

Question 3:

<Left> The left-hand side of the light shadow (in this case, the light-irradiated area or) is almost zero in the scope of the structure, so the light-mail experience is not good.

<Middle> Comparing the upstairs and downstairs samples, we can see that the planning of the light and shadow range has a huge impact on the overall picture. Controlling it is very fatal.

<Right> The blue area refers to the area plan where light and shadow shine, and the term of the element is the light falling area.

[Anonymous No.3458942]

>>3458851
Question 4:

This is an Ao shadow mask that modifies a student's simple light and shadow volume that excludes intrinsic colors. (The combination of the intrinsic color behind it will initially form our color relationship)

This reflects the range of attenuation that the light casts on the volume. Can you see how it is affected by several lights? If we can make a reasonable calculation by ourselves, we can get a very good picture. Below we continue to analyze separately

<Hand written text on the image is unrecognizable by the software, but you can figure he's showing the light sources>

We can easily screen out the three light systems from the characters through the above three screens. They are the basic volumetric light, the left side silhouette light and the right side silhouette light. We can intuitively see the range of influence of each light system, though This is a very simple lighting case but I still get a good light and light experience.

The following are the posters of the two modified students' Ao light shadow masks. Such exercises should be done frequently to develop accurate judgments on the above four issues so that the poster will not have too much light and shadow resistance.

[Anonymous No.3458943]

>>3458852
<I skipped right to the tutorial section>

The human body skips. What can you do to live more and live better!

The beginning of the design must understand is the concept of positive and negative

Just like this gear, the circle is the origin of the vision. The main form and conflict of the solid surface depends on it. We like it to be positive. The tip of the triangle is the negative shape that breaks this single boredom.

<On the drawing> Negative shape
Positive shape

It is not difficult to understand the basic rules of visual presentation in the early stage of modeling.

So naked is just positive shape. It must guarantee the beauty of the human body.

The negative task is to break the outline of the human body caused by the shape of the stop. It must be dynamic and fill the chalky balance of the day. This is the most important task.

The negative task is to break the contour of the body, it must be energetic and fill the chalky balance of the day, this is the most important point

The red part is the graphics framework that we do well. Then all you have to do is set up a pattern or pattern texture, which is the simplest of the whole process.

[Anonymous No.3458944]

I swear, ic is retarded. You have people like Scott Robertson and Sam Nielson who can explain how to be better at lighting than this cunt-eyed Chin-Chin-Dong, yet still you strife to achive some sacred chinese knowledge of drawing, ignoring the fact that its all the same shit, just because how weaboo fags you're.

[Anonymous No.3458949]

>>3458943
So that's what people mean by positive and negative.

[Anonymous No.3458956]

>>3458885
This one interests me the most desu.

[Anonymous No.3458957]

>>3458885
that square-triangle relationship seems rather obscure. translation anybody?

[Anonymous No.3458961]

>>3458938
>I OCR'd
What does this mean? I got a million chinese tutorials I'd love to run through google translate but can't because the text is in the image.

[Anonymous No.3458971]

>>3458957
It's pretty clear to me without translation. It's shape design except you use a base shape and then build off of it with multiple smaller shapes/detail.

[Anonymous No.3458973]

>>3458961
Google "Optical Character Recognition". There are many online services that do that, some work better than the others.

[Anonymous No.3459002]

>>3458883
so if you were the first person to cup your hand and drink from a lake, you invented... water?

[Anonymous No.3459248]

>>3459002
no, but you invented drinking

[Anonymous No.3459253]

>>3459002
>>3459248
so the inventor of water is ... a monkey?

[Anonymous No.3459273]

>>3459253
naming water water is an invention, but "water" itself was into being before naming of the subject you absolute pleb.

[Anonymous No.3459274]

>>3458882
you could apply this to almost any major discovery, funnily enough, we still attribute these discoveries to people.

[Anonymous No.3459303]

>>3459274
But DaVinci didn't discover light and shadows...

[Anonymous No.3459307]

>>3459274
its even sillier than that though, because it's not like da vinci discovered light. he made the conceptual framework for creating the illusion of relief through tone.

it's like saying the guy who invented the compass didn't invent shit because electromagnetism already existed.

[Anonymous No.3459312]

>>3459303
no but he discovers how to depict it
he discovers a technique, not light and shadows

the same way someone discovered how to use quartz to tell time, he didn't discover time, nor electrical currents, nor quartz (I think)

[Anonymous No.3459351]

>>3458866
what about construction then? this was basically invented by michelangelo

[Anonymous No.3459378]

>>3459273
so was the light

[Anonymous No.3459416]

>>3459378

[Anonymous No.3459477]

this must be the stupidest thread derail in /ic/ history.

[Anonymous No.3459505]

>>3459312
No he didn't you fucking moron. All representational art depicts light and shadow. Do you think DaVinci was the first representational artist?

[Anonymous No.3459891]

>>3458866
DaVinci's most famous work is literally a painting of his waifu

[Anonymous No.3460186]

>>3459505
>All representational art depicts light and shadow.
Literally wrong.
Not gonna weight in on the rest but the Bayeux tapestry as well as much of pre-roman and post-roman collapse art doesn't depict light and shadow.

[Anonymous No.3460242]

>>3460186
thats just generalizing

[Anonymous No.3460257]

>>3458957
My chinese is very rusty but here is somewhat accurate translation from the right side of it:

"This is the triangre of deception made to foor the western pigs. We will learn to imprement it to all of our study materiar so they will waste their time trying to solve the puzzre.

As the great Laozi once said: fuck the /ic/ pigs."

Again, this is just rough translation the real use of the language is more graphic and illustrative.

[Anonymous No.3460272]

>>3460242
Guys
>Davinci didn't invent it
>but he did apply actual study to it and "figure out" a lot of art and design principals and elements that we use and define today

Similarly
>the grumpy old men from Disney
>they didn't invent animation but they did "figure it out"

can anyone here translate the images even vaguely?

[Anonymous No.3460275]

>>3460242
I cited specific examples you heaving cunt excretion. The entire school of expressionism is representational art that eschews the use of form and value, as is relief sculpture as well as silhouettes and the entirety of Egyptian and greek geometric art

read a fucking book

[Anonymous No.3460276]

>>3460272
caravaggio did it better anyway so he invented it.

[Anonymous No.3460305]

>>3459891
Da Vinci was literally gay, Mona Lisa was a commission of another man's wife.

[Anonymous No.3460313]

>>3460305
it was actually a demo piece for an art class, not even joking, many of the student versions are still existent and people speculate that the one in the louvre is one of them. da vinci has pretty spotty attributions overall, seeing as everyone immediately started ripping him off because of the whole inventing chiaroscuro thing.

[Anonymous No.3460321]

>>3460313
Yeah, that's why he taught himself to write backwards, so no one would read his notes. Did you guys know he learned anatomy by taking corpses from graves and dissecting them?

[Anonymous No.3460328]

>>3460321
don't think so, i do that writing backwards thing too, is just a quirk, probably left handed

[Anonymous No.3461033]

>>3459303
Ok autist. Is math discovered or invented?

[Anonymous No.3461535]

>>3460321
Da Vinci never dug bodies up, lol. He worked with bodies in the morgue before they were buried. Like I did, in college, for Anatomy For Artist's class. A lot of them were criminals who had been executed, or old people, but he most certainly did not dig them up. He worked on them with permission of the hospital, it wasn't illegal to do so, medical researchers in that time period were doing it all over Europe.

[Anonymous No.3462543]

some say Da Vinci invented furaffinity but Im not 100% sure

[Anonymous No.3462546]

>>3460275
yeah sure bucko take your shitty wojack with you

[Anonymous No.3462781]

>>3462546

[Anonymous No.3462819]

>>3462781
>anime reactions
yeah you sure know your history weeb faggot jk you dont

[Anonymous No.3463821]

>>3458848
ching chong nop nop pong ping!