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Let's settle this once and for all, whose art is more appealing? Bonus points for constructive reason

http://www.strawpoll.me/15796585

>> No.3450634

ruan jia's work is soulless and empty the only thing he has going for him is his rendering and rabid retarded fanboys

>> No.3450635

>>3450631
why are you comparing these 2, ruan is leagues ahead of krenz

>> No.3450641

>>3450631
I like ruan for his large compositional pieces and dragons.

i like krenz for pretty much everything ive seen from him.

>> No.3450645

Unfortunately, Ruan Jia's lifeless style makes his stuff less pleasing to look at.

>> No.3450650

>>3450631

Krenz and it's not even close.

>> No.3450669

>>3450631
theres like a boatload of artists i can name that are copying straight from ruan even krenz himself. why are you seriously comparing a master to a virgin so-yboy

>> No.3450680

>>3450631
Are you kidding me? Ruan jia can't draw for shit, compare his dead, creepy looking paintings to krenz's. Look how much movement is in those shapes.

>> No.3450685

>>3450631
>http://www.strawpoll.me/15796585
this poll only needed two options you faggot

>> No.3450687

I love how these posts keep alternating between "Are you serious? Ruanjia is complete and utter garbage, it's not even close" and "Are you kidding me? Ruanjia is a master and leagues ahead of Krenz"

Can't possibly be that maybe both are pretty damn good artists in their respective ways.

>> No.3450692

>>3450631
Both are gold medal winners in kitsch- and decoration art.

>> No.3450714

>>3450692
anime girls and dragons are kitch? I thought kitch was mostly used to describe wholesome, non-entertainment art like Bob Ross or a Kinkade painting.

>> No.3450716

>>3450714
>art, objects, or design considered to be in poor taste because of excessive garishness or sentimentality, but sometimes appreciated in an ironic or knowing way

>> No.3450724

>>3450716
well, if you consider anime girls and fantasy themes to have excessive garishness and sentimentality, then literally anything could be considered kitch.

>> No.3450731
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3450731

I am literally trying to breed an art style that is 40% RJ, 50% Krenz and 10% HGJart for painting and 10% HGJart, 15% Krenz and 75% Rei for smoother animu at the moment. I've been trying breed those artist's styles onto my shit style on simple art for one and a half years and only a few weeks ago managed to get a 30% RJ on one piece and 30% Krenz on another. Krenz's style is easier to fake by far because it doesn't have many dark values, so with a combo of thinking and mentally pipetting you can reproduce the style more easily but RJ is fucking awful to do, because he has a lot of form and you have to be certain how the light is curving around and he shoves colours everywhere and his method of colour picking is unituitive. Nevertheless I had some success in faking his style by rendering for fuckloads of hours but boy, if it was a non simple painting I would have to paint for weeks and I simply do not have as solid fundamentals necessary to perfectly emulate RJ in anything more than a master study.

RJ's style is much more technically proficient even if Krenz's colours and subject matter just looks so intriguing. So he's my vote.

But HGJ is better than all of them. He has that lovely detail AND his paintings are more lively AND the colours are outstanding. Comparing Krenz to HGJ and RJ to HGJ is like comparing Wlop to Ruan Jia: it looks so lazy in contrast because there is none of that high information density shit that Feng always talks about due to the fact that he is not photobashing and not using brushes that adds information in or painting sufficiently to achieve the look without photobashing: without which you'd need to render for at least a week to look good

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>>3450724
That's actually the point. The word is meant to deride any art other than what the abstract fags are doing now and were doing when the word came into use.

>kitsch: a figure or figures realistic or stylized, a landscape with or without architecture, machines or creatures real or imagined

>not kitsch: a high resolution photograph of a man's anus printed on a canvas that's over four feet tall and wide or a big spiral on a canvas that could only be created with decades of experience training all day every day under a living master (LOL)

>> No.3450739

>>3450716
>>3450735
literally not what kitsch art is supposed to represent

>> No.3450742

>>3450731
HGJart is by far my least favorite of all the chinese render monkeys. Everything he paints just has this thin, porcelain feeling to it for a lack of a better term. If I ever had to commission a painting of a sad looking gay guy with sparkly skin and angel wings, I'd be sure to hire HGJart though.

>> No.3450752

>>3450716
thanks anon. some people really can't look up definitions in here.

>>3450724
>well, if you consider anime girls and fantasy themes to have excessive garishness and sentimentality, then literally anything could be considered kitch.
jesus fucking christ YES it is fucking kitsch you idiot. will you fucking look at it? it's derivative, nostalgic, exploited, reactionary and far away from any innovation. these guys are simply rearranging old stereotypes into mashups of fantasy and scifi.

>>3450735
>this pic again
please tripcode already. you are annoying as fuck with your philistine shitposting.

>>3450739
oh please start a new dictionary "Anons Special Dictionary for Things (because I don't like people giving stuff that i like bad names…)"

>> No.3450753

>>3450752
boy you faggots really love that word

>> No.3450759

>>3450742
Yeah but once you somehow get a style you can stick it on anything. The thin feeling is probably because he heavily relies on what looks like painting in normal mode on top of an existing grayscale painting. Properly colourised and then painted stuff like Mohrbacher's or just starting with colour like I think the rest of 'em do, seems to make it look much more solid

>> No.3450761

>>3450759
>The thin feeling is probably because he heavily relies on what looks like painting in normal mode on top of an existing grayscale painting. Properly colourised and then painted stuff like Mohrbacher's or just starting with colour like I think the rest of 'em do
you clearly have no idea how digital painting works faggot

>> No.3450768

>>3450761
Literally every one of mohrbacher's videos show him g mapping it all whereas HGJ on youtube just paints normally on grayscale in at least the portion I watched

>> No.3450820

>>3450631
Ruan is leagues above krenz technically but his work is quite dull
Krenz has way more appeal so I will vote him since that's what matters in the end

>> No.3450824

>>3450635
>Just different styles bro

>> No.3450828

>>3450731
yo show some work anon, sounds interesting

>> No.3450850

I think they're about the same level of mastery at what they do respectively. Ruan can't render like Krenz and vice versa. Krenz is much better at drawing though.

>> No.3450856

>>3450631

The only correct answer is Krenz. The compositions are more interesting along with the ideas, costumes, faces and overall aesthetics of the images.

>>3450850
>Ruan can't render like Krenz and vice versa. Krenz is much better at drawing though.
Drawing is everything, anyone can learn rendering, it's by far the esier of the two skills. Who cares if you can render well if the drawing you're rendering is boring and generic? Highly rendered boring artwork is only appealing to beginner artists because of the skill factor, something they want to attain. The left hand artists IMO has more creative work, and is more marketable. He could always work on his painting style to develop more highly rendered areas inside his paintings. RJ would have a hell of a time trying to be more creative than the fairly safe and generic stuff he makes. Simple shapes, costumes, architecture, highly rendered with realistic faces. Yawn.

>> No.3450869

>>3450856
>Drawing is everything, anyone can learn rendering, it's by far the esier of the two skills.

Ah yes you don't mind posting some of your rendering skills then anon?

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>>3450752
suck a dick you pedantic pseud twat, go show how innovative you are at your school bathroom's glory hole you

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>>3450752
suck a dick you pedantic pseud twat, go show how innovative you are in your school bathroom's glory hole lmao

>> No.3450876

>>3450873
>cheap insult
>no rebuttal, no arguments

thanks, have a nice day, retard. bye bye

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>>3450875
>>3450873
>changes "you" to "lmao"
oh look at this little whiney cunt
who is pedantic now, bitch?

>> No.3450892

>>3450631
Ruan is a bit too muddy for me.

>> No.3450912

>>3450631
Ruan is clearly superior

>> No.3450915
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>>3450879
>be such a friendless loser whose time is so worthless you refresh individual threads on a board where absolutely no one posts the kind of salacious figurative and literal (in Chris Ofecalphiliac's case) shit art you like with any sincerity, just in case someone makes a typo and deletes it less than a minute later so you can "get them" for it
>"who is pedantic now"

Who indeed lol

>> No.3450932

>>3450915
>using a low tier fireZ meme
yah your words are invalid

>> No.3450937 [DELETED] 

>>3450915
>being this butthurt, the word "kitsch" triggers your feefees
hi there, Nambojambo. I think I broke your brain a little bit by calling your shit taste out as being kitsch and cliché ridden.
it's alright, some people just get stuck in their teenage interests and never grow beyond them. it's called infantilism. it's only partly your fault. the rest comes down to bad upbringing and poor cultural environment.

>> No.3450939

>>3450937
i think at this point you dont even know what cliche and kitsch even mean since you loosely throw those words in every post you make

>> No.3450941

>>3450915
fyi this is Nambo, no one else is retarded enough to shorthand "pseudo" with "pseud" and each single entry you find in the archive is in his style, right back to the "modern art was a mistake" and "Ruan Jia" arguments.
t. philistine loli pervert.

>>/ic/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=pseud

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>>3450915
twitter - attall139

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3450946

>you're pseud
butthurt much, faggot?

>> No.3450956
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3450956

Does /ic/ actually have fanboys getting their panties in a bunch for these faggots?

>> No.3450962

>>3450752
I dunno, if those qualities were what makes an artwork "kitch", then literally all entertainment art and all art with any sort of narrative would be considered "kitch" by someone out there. After all, sentimentality and nostalgia are fairly subjective. I for one have not heard the word kitch being used in this way, so I think you might be using it wrong, as a general term to describe all art you dislike.

>> No.3450967

>>3450631
Ruan is technically proficient but I absolutely despise his style and don't like his paintings

>> No.3450969

>>3450962
do you know this animated Barbie series in 3D?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXQo1s-VvvQ&spfreload=10

to me, Ruan Jia's girls are an arms lenght away from this sort of thing. it is shallow and bloodless, the only difference being that you can clearly see a lack of empathy in his work (his characters typically show no emotion) and his work is darker in colors and atmosphere.

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>>3450956
No, I'm just here to trigger the Israeli communist weenie MOMAron until he starts accusing me of being some random asian guy with no proof due to his ever-worsening schizophrenia (a common problem for people that unironically appreciate "ready-made" art, drip paintings, Chris Ofili etc.). I like a handful of Ruan's pieces and respect him for his command of the medium, but do think he's a little overrated.

>> No.3450996
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3450996

Definitely have to go with Kim Jung Gi

He can actually draw unlike these symbol drawing color vomit things you just posted.

>> No.3451012

>>3450994
>>3450956

>>/ic/thread/S3237472#p3237722

>> No.3451017

>>3450994
Actually, "overrated" is maybe the wrong word to use, I just haven't really personally liked his last few pieces and I inherently find simpler work such as that by Krenz more lively and appealing.

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>>3451017
>backpedaling, after months and months of defending Ruan "mannequin" Jia
WOULD you look at THAT !
i think we broke the little shitposter

>> No.3451037

>>3451012
There he goes again!

>"This totally not retarded painting of a big black dick with cut out photographs glued to it by Chris Ofili is [insert heaps of praise interspersed with "big art words" like "composition" here]

>"Everyone that replies to me on this website is the asian guy that made fun of my mediocre mechanical pencil sketch six months ago"

These are both statements that only someone that belongs in a fucking padded room could say and truly believe

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>>3450996
rj has better lines than kim, the only reason it looks like that is because he was going to paint over it a minute later...

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>>3450631
>5 girls like krenz's work
>2 girls like ruan's work

I'm shaking bros

>> No.3451053

>>3451045
let him be ignorant

>> No.3451059

>>3450631
>http://www.strawpoll.me/15796585
>no option for dislike
snowflake

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>>3451027
The only thing broke is your non-sequitur-spewing brain. While I passively respect and appreciate aspects of his work, I've never once commented on any of Ruan's pieces on this board EXCEPT to criticize them (the composition on his last piece was truly atrocious, for example). This "defense of Ruan Jia" is purely the product of your fevered imagination in the same way that your Nambo conspiracy is.

>we

Multiple personalities now, is it? You really ought to take your meds. You're almost as bad as that anime avatar guy that spits on his discolored walls.

>> No.3451100

>>3451080
you can tell certain posters by the way they write and the buzzwords they use. same goes with you. "you're a pseud" is something that surfaced specifically in threads about "modern" art (too dumb to know that it's actually contemporary art they shit on). and an increasing number of anons is criticizing RJ for legit reasons. in the archives, you can find some really embarrassing fanboi gayness:

>>/ic/thread/S2729122#p2734722
this little upset wannabe cumdump for RJ is obsessed and butthurt that people are calling his work out for being shit. whether that is you or some other anon, it's hilarious and a good passtime to dissect his shit drawings. and it's funny how that fanboi is just the same as you and projects that there is "only one" anon criticizing RJs nostalgia shit.

>> No.3451114

>>3451059
dislike what, this isn't reddit you faggot

>> No.3451136 [DELETED] 

>>3451114
>dislike = reddit
you reddit yelpers. I legit haven't used that website at all. somehow, spacing sentences "is reddit", saying there is no dislike "is reddit", what else?

>> No.3451139

>>3451114
>dislike = reddit
you reddit yappers. I legit haven't used that website at all. somehow, spacing sentences "is reddit", saying there is no dislike "is reddit", what else?

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3451173

>22 posters in this thread.
>Momaron's schizophrenia
Holy shit. I don't even need to visit /ic/ and calling him out anymore. He goes full shizo without any help. Anon, you're doing god's work.

>> No.3451186

>>3451053
love the irony posting
upvoted

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>>3450631
Lifeless uncanny bimbos > Merc_WIP.jpg > shit > anime > Illastrat > anime with 20% opacity grey layer on top of it

>http://www.strawpoll.me/15796585
>all those weebs considering themselves male
LMAO.

>> No.3451191

>>3451187
muh man.

>>3451173
muh bitch. sore asshole already?

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>>3451187
Picrelated is only real artist here because 95% of /ic/ are commercial illustration artists and anime plebs. Only 5% can understand true art.

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>>3451200
>Numba-cuck making fake posts as me again
>reports posts on false pretenses
can you actually imagine being this butthurt and sore?

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>>3451173
I can see the Nambo-cuck sweating, raging in his little filthy chair in front of his computer. "they've insulted my kawai Nambo again!"

artists this little ngmi sucks up to:
alphonse: @LiliumRa
attall: @attall139
rr: @piguineapig
hekoko: @hekokokoko
jnthed: @jnthed
kawayoo: @kawayoo
8939: @H939
yisaotrane: @yisaotrane8416
jo fang: @JoFangArt
rei: @rei_17
nlmoo: @nlmoo
toridamono: @toridamono
krenz: @KrenzCushart

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>>3451210
5/13
You detective skills fucking sucks like always . But thanks for sharing new artists.

>> No.3451390

>>3451367
you done goofed, Nambo-cuck
change your pants

>> No.3451411

>>3451210
what im I looking at

>> No.3451416

>>3451411

you're looking at the sick story of a loli fan who pretended to be Nambo (twitter attall139), because people dared to criticize his favorite waifu artists Ruan Jia and since then, this raving mad shitstain is spamming Ruan Jia threads on /ic/ to compensate.
>>/ic/thread/S3237472#p3239297

>> No.3451430

>>3450631
I like everything from Ruan except for his girls/chharacters. Just tons of weird shit on them that doesn't compliment the painting other than showcase his skill.
Krenz is pretty good I like almost all of his stuff.
Ruan's dragons tho

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>>3451411
Schizophrenia basically. Read this thread. It's shizo redditor. He appeared here in end of November. Was banned thousand times for shitting board and creating vendetta threads. We call him "MOMAron". You can read about his one of the first meltdowns here
>https://boards.fireden.net/ic/thread/3220291/
>https://boards.fireden.net/ic/thread/3212312/
Picrelated is overview about his art skills, posting style and overall attitude. He likes making screencaps (all his screencaps are named) of everything and posting walls. If you disagree with him he will start calling you "Nambo" like here >>3450941 and spamming screencaps with jap artist. Even if you're into modern art, avoid him at all cost. Report if you want to make /ic/ better place or just ignore. He shitposting in RJ threads, so be cautions.This guy is Malaysia 2.0

>> No.3451554

>>3450634
>>3450635
fight fight fight

>> No.3451573
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3451573

>Krenz
>Ruan
pffffff weak pars

>> No.3451581

>>3450996
>loose scribbly sketch to paint over
>haha look at his horrible linework
the crabs of /ic/ never cease to amaze me

>> No.3451584

>>3451550
>>3451416
thanks, pure autism

>> No.3451621

If Krenz and RJ were both tasked to make a painting of a sphere and cube and cone in their own styles and colors and compositions, RJ's would be far more interesting to look at.

Krenz has a really boring and generic sense of light, value, color, edge, texture, brushwork, etc.

>> No.3451644

>>3451621
fucking this

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This thread tho

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>>3451573
literal who

>> No.3451990

>>3450631
if the poll is to be believed.. we have around 20 females on /ic. How does that make you feel anon-kun? Will you now grind those animu fundies to impress them, and make them follow you?

>> No.3451991

>>3451990
It's already been proven that they are also the ones crabbing /ic/.

>> No.3452001

>>3451991
>proven
when

>> No.3452019

>>3451990
it explains the complete ignorance about art history, lack of spacial awareness in the works shown (women suck at that), general tendency to endless nagging and the everlasting bitch-fights.

/ic/ is officially a matriarchy

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>>3452019
damn those 20 wimmin responsible for the worst of /ic/

>> No.3452056

>>3451967
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qvq8y

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ruan jia has the most views/likes in the most artist dedicated site ever
/thread

>> No.3452151

>>3452145
>views/likes
Lmao. Glad /ic/ doesn't know about other artists outside DA and artstation. Also hgj account was nuked.

>> No.3452158

>>3452151
yeah i know, he reported a fake account using his work, but that was months ago

>> No.3452173

>>3450631
>comparing two concept artists
>create autistic pole
that's some really cringeworthy shit right there.

>> No.3452211

>>3452145
didn't expect wlop to be in league with all those other guys, damn...

>> No.3452213

>>3452145
damn, Ruan Jia is almost as good as Sakimichan

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>>3452173
>krenz self-proclaimed as literal "illustrator", never done a concept project
>stating his cringey underage opinion on an mongolian cartoon board

phew anon..

>> No.3452422

>>3450631
OP has shit taste.

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3452453

>>3452410
>so uncomfortable
>answers with descriptive greentext
>randomly calls people "underage" as soon as they state something he doesn't like

>> No.3452455

>>3450631
If you even have to ask youre fucking retarded.

>> No.3452687

>>3452453
>nambofag keeps projecting

hihi

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>>3450856
>Drawing is everything, anyone can learn rendering, it's by far the esier of the two skills.
RJ has much more natural and appealing shape design than Krenz, though.

>Highly rendered boring artwork is only appealing to beginner artists because of the skill factor, something they want to attain.
That's because beginners don't have an eye for value, edges, composition or shape design. Coincidentally the part that people like you seem to be completely unaware of when you try to critique his work.

>The left hand artists IMO has more creative work, and is more marketable.
Creativity is subjective. People like Krenz because he has a painterly anime style, and anime is a popular style. But Krenz probably won't appeal beyond his style choice to any art student that takes art seriously. RJ's older personal work is way more expressive and painterly than you guys ever give it credit for.

>He could always work on his painting style to develop more highly rendered areas inside his paintings.
Learning to render won't bridge the skill gap between Krenz and RJ. Years spent studying light, value and color from life, will.

>RJ would have a hell of a time trying to be more creative than the fairly safe and generic stuff he makes.
Literally what is so creative about art thats' entire appeal is being painterly anime?

If you want to go the creative route, Yuumei is much more interesting and experimental than Krenz imo. They're both second-rate compared to RJ, though. That's just the way it is.

>> No.3453078

Ruan jia. The only people that like krenz are /beg/ anime """artists"""

>> No.3453080

>>3453061
that piece is at least 3 years old. Ruan Jia is only revered for his old work

>> No.3453087

>>3450631
comparing a generic boring who anime "artist" to a digital art god of fundies, is this seriously? You guys cant even comprehend what is the level of Ruan Chad Jia. Science says that people are bad to recognize competence or people that are way to far from them. All this thread is just a example of this. Fucking crabs, i swear, i ll chase each one of you.

>> No.3453091

>>3453061
It's pretty impressive how he managed to get a digital painting to "glow" like an oil painting. I guess it's due to the blown out part of the face being pinkish-purple against the surrounding green.

>> No.3453094

>>3450631
Krenz, mainly because I hate the way Ruan renders hair. Krenz also has more appealing color palettes imo

>> No.3453095
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>>3453061

only person in this thread with an actual artists' eye, fuck me

the amount of animu fags here is ridiculous

>> No.3453132

>>3453087
Craig Mullins, Jaime Jones etc, are the truly examples of cg gods

RJ is just skin pores render monkey compared to them

>> No.3453134

>>3453132
Tell me who else are CG gods. I want to learn from them.

>> No.3453142

>>3453132
Jaime Jones is good. Mullins is an overrated scrub. Seeing those sloppy 30% opacity hard round brush strokes on that piece of shit aztec painting of his makes me want to throw up.

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>>3453132
you do realize rj could paint like them before they were even cool right?

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>>3453143

>> No.3453148
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>>3453145
ect ect

>> No.3453149

>>3453143
>>3453148
Really like these.

>> No.3453152

Ruan renders better, Krenz draws (much) better. Drawing is way harder than rendering.

>> No.3453153

>>3453134
Mullins is a confirmed 'paints on top of models'
http://forums.cgsociety.org/archive/index.php?t-535675.html

I think after searching I found the model
original model:
https://i.warosu.org/data/ic/img/0016/11/1387254204740.jpg
art:
https://i.warosu.org/data/ic/img/0016/11/1387254167659.jpg

>> No.3453154

>>3453153
Meant for
>>3453132

>> No.3453170

>>3453153
cant see nothing criminal
it is not even phototracing and he used plain not textured models

>> No.3453189

>>3453170
Wish I'd known that almost every artist I looked up to and their mum uses 3D models, now I have to catch up on years of 3D modelling whereas if I had picked it up earlier I'd be as fluent in one of those programs as I am in PS. Fuck.

>> No.3453202

>>3453189
If you look up to Ruan Jia, rejoice.

There's no known instance of him ever painting on top of a photo or a 3D model and then shipping it out as a finished painting. It's also not evident in his paintings, which is part of why they look so traditional(for being digital) to most people.

>> No.3453211

>>3453153

if craig mullins does a thing then that makes the thing best practice

>> No.3453212

>>3453189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYbYvImd7Bw

>> No.3453253

>>3453152
only toddlers draw, great masters render.

>> No.3453258

>>3453087
you obv don't know what you're talking about, krenz has been painting his whole life as well, studied a lot of master, and still actively does. His main style is his trademark, and just happens to be the most marketable as well.

>> No.3453267

>>3453212
This is actually quite informative

>> No.3453276

>>3453202
RJ is good, but I need the backgrounds as well without giving myself carpal tunnel so some 3D is inevitable I guess

>> No.3453389
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>30 girls on ic

b-bros!

>> No.3453400

>>3453276
using 3D takes longer than drawing something by hand. Making a detailed 3D model of a complex architecture is something that takes experienced modelers days, sometimes weeks. 3D is only practical when you intend to reuse several elements of a scene, not for single illustrations. Or if you do a quick sketch-up block in, which any idiot can do. But of course crabs like you who don't draw don't know this.

>> No.3453417

>>3453400
Agreed, good drawing is the answer if you want to go the route of designing and being artistic, AND being fast.

If you just want to design and be relatively fast and not sink much time into training your skill, then 3D models/photobashing is the way to go.

But seriously, the difference in quality is huge. Photobashing gets a lot of shit because it circumvents the trials and tribulations that are intrinsic to being an artist, while also yielding a less impressive result from an artistic standpoint.

>> No.3453467

>>3453389
I'm officially not surprised anymore about how disagreeable, stupid and bitchy anons are on here.

>> No.3453469

>"'m a proud member of the LGBT community, I only follow tumblr lgbt/furry art"
>8 votes

pretty sure at least 8 of them weren't being sarcastic.

>> No.3453473

>>3453467
>75% are male
how to give yourself away as an incel

>> No.3453531

>>3450631
Ruan has incredible rendering and a knack for grand compositions but I find Krenz far more appealing, a much more vibrant and more enjoyable color gamut for me, and a clean look.