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[Anonymous No.3448764]

Question for Tablet Users: Do you usually sketch out your work on paper first or are you working digitally from the start? Why?

[Anonymous No.3448791]

I work digitally from the start 90% of the time just because it's more comfortable for me, I'm used to it. Although, if I'm kinda lost with what I want to do, I may do a couple of quick sketches in pen, to explore the idea

[Anonymous No.3448795]

I never combine them as it gets frustrating. You also feel compelled to just digitally color real lineart which is a terrible idea in the long run because of differing texture.

[Anonymous No.3448837]

Most cad monkeys in our office just do their sketches in photoshop. Our fastest moron take 2 hour to sketch a fucking house. Never hire digitaltards who don't have solid foundation of drawing in paper or any physical surface.

[Anonymous No.3448870]

>>3448764
only people using paper professionally instead of working 100% digital are old timers that struggle letting go their ancient habits and their deprecated workflow

also, maybe a few cretins: the kind that take pictures on 16 mm film and write on mechanical typewriters

[Anonymous No.3448877]

>>3448764
Sometime I like my half-assed sketch so much that I'm turning it into digital piece.
Or I switch to sketching with traditional medium if I feel like I'm stuck with some particular painting.
Other than that I'm trying to keep digital and traditional separate. First of all because as I'm adding more steps to my process it becomes less fluid and natural.

[Anonymous No.3448898]

>>3448764

Used to start on paper more. Now I often just skip to digital. I mostly use paper for conceptualizing now, and digital for the finished work.

>>3448870
Shut up idiot.

[Anonymous No.3448899]

>>3448764
I sketch out on paper scan it then paint it digitally. Its kinda hard doing line art without a cintiq. So I do all line work traditional.

[Anonymous No.3449085]

>>3448764
Of course no. If you want to be productive, scanning and cleaning a photo is a nonsensical waste of time

if you have a half decent tablet, you should be able to do with it the exact same things that you would on physical paper. Even more, since you've got layers, ctr+z, and liquify

[Anonymous No.3449162]

>>3448870
Laughably untrue. One of the biggest and most successful M:TG artists does her stuff on paper first.

[Anonymous No.3449384]

hijacking thread

what min. size of tablet should i get to draw comfortably? is intuos M ok??

[Anonymous No.3449414]

>>3449384
>is intuos M ok??
M is ok. Wacom isn't.

[Anonymous No.3449418]

>>3449414
:^)

[Anonymous No.3449421]

I'm looking at a used tablet, do you think this is acceptable? is it a problem for drawing? will it be unusable in a few months? never mind the price

[Anonymous No.3449426]

>>3449414
>>3449414
what??

[Anonymous No.3449435]

>>3448870
get a load off this guy, what are you even doing here in 2018?

[Anonymous No.3449436]

>>3449426
The size of Intous M is perfectly fine but Wacom jews are making overpriced shit with broken drivers and giving them money means getting scammed. They aren't the only company on the market anymore so there's literally no reason to support their shitty monopolistic attitude. Buying Wacom in 2018 is just retarded mindless brandfaggotry.

[Anonymous No.3449442]

>>3449436
what should i get instead so i am not retarded mindless brandfaggot??

[Anonymous No.3449450]

>>3448764
100% digital.
>why
More comfy.

[Anonymous No.3449453]

>>3449436
I tried out 4-5 cheap alternatives and they were all cheaper for a reason.

[Anonymous No.3449500]

>>3449442
Huion.

[Anonymous No.3449511]

>>3449442
>>3449500
If money is a huge issue, then do as this anon says. If you never used a wacom you won't know what you are missing anyway.

[Anonymous No.3449517]

>>3449450
Teach me how to emote daddy.

Legit though, I love your lines. Care to share your brush settings? You use CSP right?

[Anonymous No.3449520]

>>3449450
Seconding >>3449517
Brush settings please

[Anonymous No.3449546]

>>3449517
>>3449520
Link to my brushes.
https://www.dropbox.com/home/MS-CSP%20Brushes
I update these semi-regularly.
I should probably also delete the redundant ones.

[Anonymous No.3449547]

>>3449546
Thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.3449569]

>>3449546
BB you absolute unit. So refreshing to see another artist who isn't a gatekeeping fuck with their setup.

>>3449547
>anon

[Anonymous No.3449578]

>>3449546
This is why even if I don't fap to your stuff, I donate to your Patreon.

[Anonymous No.3449585]

>>3448764
Depends. Maybe 30% of my digital art starts out on paper.

[Anonymous No.3449606]

sketching digitally sucks

[Anonymous No.3449609]

>>3449546
>https://www.dropbox.com/home/MS-CSP%20Brushes
Says it doesn't exist. Thanks anyway though man.

[Anonymous No.3449629]

New to digital art, but what's worked best for me is to do a completed pencil line drawing, take a photo, and trace it digitally. I just do my best line work that way, it's how I've done it for twenty years.
I've been trying out a color-replacement style that instantly finds the dark values and replaces them with a solid color. Gives you thicc, nonaliased lines though so it's a bit stylized, not good for every piece.

[Anonymous No.3449660]

>>3449569
Sharing is caring.
>>3449578
;_;
Much love.

>>3449609
Strange. I think it should work. Maybe you need to have a dropbox account?

[Anonymous No.3449674]

>>3449660
Nah I have one, and I'm logged in. dw though, I found a working link through your Tumblr. Thanks so much for your help man.

[Anonymous No.3449734]

>>3449629
holy fuck, did it take you 20 years to get to this level?

[Anonymous No.3449744]

>>3449660
BBC are you a fan of Joel Jurion? Your stuff reminds me of him.

[Anonymous No.3449863]

>>3449734

20 years makes it seem like that's how long I've taken it seriously. I just meant I've been drawing with a pencil since I was a kid, though my output plummeted in college + some years after. Only recently have I gotten back into it and taken it seriously.

[Anonymous No.3449902]

>>3449744
Yeah. Big fan actually.

[Anonymous No.3450102]

I find it easier to sketch traditionally but, my dipshit brother stole my scanner. So I have no way to to ink and color my average dynamic sketches.

[Anonymous No.3450123]

>>3448764
People working on physical media are the vegans of the illustration world. Normal people work 100% digital and you'll never hear them pontificating

[Anonymous No.3450306]

I always start with pencil on paper, and do inking and coloring on digital. I like how much natural my pencil sketches turn out but digital is always better for clean finished arts. My best friend does the complete opposite though, he would always skecth and rearrange on digital, print that and do the finished piece traditionally.

[Anonymous No.3450789]

>>3448764
I also have a question specifically for screen tablet users. Is 13” too small to draw on for you? If I had $600 would it be better to get a used Wacom 13 Pro or a 16”/21” alternative? I want the Wacom for its better color-accurate screen and steady pen.

[Anonymous No.3450990]

>>3450789
I did exactly that. I went from a Cintiq 13 hd to a 16" cheap alternative. the 3" more aren't worth it. Trust me on this one.
The color accuracy and lesser jitter are much much more worth it.
Can't wait to get my hands on a cintiq again.

[Anonymous No.3453277]

what's the difference between Bamboos and Intuos? is it really significant?
my Intuos 3 stylus is a little damaged, and I'm wondering if it's worth it to get a slightly bigger replacement as long as it's cheap (it's a A6, so pretty small)

[Anonymous No.3453325]

>>3453277
Bamboo → new 'intuos'
Intuos → new 'intuos pro'
bigger is better to be honest

[Anonymous No.3453348]

>>3453277
Just look on Wacom's site and look at how each product is different. The Bamboo has been redesigned into more of a note-taking device, and it's stylus is pretty limited. The Intuos is the entry level art tablet now - decent pen, but no frills and smaller. The Intuos Pro has more features like control buttons on the tablet, and a better pen.
Honestly, do you buy products without looking at the specs first? I look up anything i buy over $20, and read reviews for what the product is really like in use, even for stuff like coffee grinders or irons. (I recently bought a travel iron for flattening old watercolors.)(Yes, you use irons to flatten them, look it up on YouTube) I also look stuff up on cordcutters for the best quality products on the market.

[Anonymous No.3453350]

>>3453348
>do you buy products without looking at the specs first?
course not, but this is more about feeling. the difference between 2048 and 50 millions memes of pressure isn't very obvious.
I found a good offer anyway, so I think that's gonna be it.

[Anonymous No.3453354]

>>3453350
I think the tilt control on the pro is much more obvious than the 1 million memes of pressure (also size is the biggest difference if you are getting a bigger one, since on a bigger tablet I found my art quality improve now that I could paint smaller bits more easily).

[Anonymous No.3454902]

>>3448764
Pencil first, then into the Surface Pro 4 for painting. Never liked drawing on the SP4