is it ok?

[Anonymous No.3429459]

[Anonymous No.3429471]

>>3429459
To normie fans it doesn’t matter

[Anonymous No.3429472]

>>3429459
those ghibli "inspired" pieces look really lifeless

[Anonymous No.3429476]

>>3429472
He probably just traced those images without thinking about certain aspects of what made them good. Has he gotten better about this?

[Anonymous No.3429484]

>>3429459
>80% of his current patreon audience don't know about this

is this one new? I think there were some different examples before

[Anonymous No.3429492]

You're telling me I could've been making 160k a year just tracing shit god damnit

[Anonymous No.3429498]

>>3429459
Who's that ? Ilya ?

[Anonymous No.3429501]

>>3429498
>tfw kr0n succesfully rebranded himself so nobody associates his shitbaggery with his name anymore
it's not fair

[Anonymous No.3429502]

>>3429492
Shoulda not listened to the shitty crabs here. No one outside of this shithole cares. No rules only tools

[Anonymous No.3429512]

>>3429502
Yeah, that's why you make 160k a year tracing anime screenshots.... oh wait.

[Anonymous No.3429519]

>>3429502
If you want to build a table, a hammer would be a tool. If you steal someone elses table, that table did not become a fucking tool in creating said table.

[Anonymous No.3429525]

>>3429459
yup, normalfags don't care if you trace as long as it looks overly appealing to their shit tastes

[Anonymous No.3429531]

>>3429525
The fact that none of these artists ever admit that they are tracing should tell you that this is bullshit and that they themselves do not believe that no one cares. Some even go as far as faking process images. Why would they go to such lengths if no one cared that it was traced?

[Anonymous No.3429538]

>>3429519
What if I paint the table a bit?

[Anonymous No.3429542]

>>3429519
And that's the difference between stealing and copying. If you had a machine that can copy a table, it would be a tool in creating a table.

[Anonymous No.3429644]

>>3429542
>buy a table-cloning machine
>copy a table
>«Hey guys look at this awesome table I've engineered myself»

[Anonymous No.3429688]

>>3429512
well clearly it's possible

[Anonymous No.3429697]

>>3429688
Obviously it's possible, but it's not realistic. There are very few artists who can make a living off of traced fanart and Ilya is not just another example, he's the very peak of that particular "career path". Yet when you say stuff like "shouldn't listen to the shitty crabs here, so you too can make 160 grand a year like Ilya does" you are implying it is not only possible, it is a realistist option and a better choice than the alternative, which is just not the case. There are far more artists who can make a good living with their art who actually have developed a valuable skillset than there are artists who get by on tracing alone.

Even in the same fucking category of fanart illustrations, Sakimichan, who can draw without having to rely on tracing, is vastly outperforming Ilya in terms of commercial success.

[Anonymous No.3429712]

>two Kron threads
nuke this shit

[Anonymous No.3430491]

>>3429712
>>3429712
Even 2 nukes will be not enought, or maybe the skills of the nips come from radiation and rice diet???

[Anonymous No.3430497]

>>3429697
Illya is pretty damn lazy though. It doesn't look like he spends more than 1-2 hours per day working on his shit and he still gets 160k.

If he worked as hard as artgerm/sakimichan he'd be up there in terms of $$$

[Anonymous No.3430523]

>>3430497
I'm not a fan of Ilya but I do find his style more appealing than the other two, while I find Sakimichan slightly better in terms of composition, with Artgerm in between them. Maybe if you combined the three, they'd make something amazing...

[Anonymous No.3430672]

>>3430523
You mean: high traced work + messed up anatomy + rendering high as fuck + patreon shills here and there.
...
You might have something here anon.

[Anonymous No.3432844]

>>3429459
The Kiki one is the worst offender. She looks like some glam whore now.

[Anonymous No.3432878]

>>3429459
Ilya threads should be a bannable offense

Is always the same cringey, retarded, naive "criticism" from entitled beginners

[Anonymous No.3433225]

>>3432878
Most of this thread is criticism of him tracing and being an asshole, not his art. They should put this shit on tumblr or something though where more people can see it.

[Anonymous No.3433244]

>>3433225
>tracing
Not tracing, but accurate copy. You can download all his videos and see everything yourself. Tracing is outdated forced meme.

[Anonymous No.3433257]

>>3429492
while he can1t come up with subject the art he does is still way beyond your skill level

[Anonymous No.3433260]

>>3433225
it has been posted on tumblr. problem is most people just dont see the problem because theyre not artists themselves. also, he rebraned himself as ilya now so there's less of an association too.

[Anonymous No.3433286]

>>3429459

Stop with the tracing talk altogether for fuck sake. It's such a fucking middle school tier mindset to assign some kind of moral judgment to tracing. Tracing is not ever the issue. It's not hard to copy the shapes of a 2d artwork to a close enough match. It's stealing work from other's that's the issue. Whether you trace, grid or eyeball to do so is a moot point.

[Anonymous No.3433412]

>>3429459
Woah, what?
Isnt that Illya's arts?
Are you telling me he traces??
If thats true then fuck. I always looked up to him.

[Anonymous No.3433520]

I don't really see any form of tracing in the OP's picture. Just very well done redrawings of already awesome pieces he choose to enhance in their own way. These are pretty much iconic enough to be recognized.

[Anonymous No.3433523]

>>3433520
This, just because you draw over another layer doesn't mean it's tracing, it's just referencing. The pixels don't even exactly align

[Anonymous No.3433524]

Jesus Christ, no wonder I found it incomprehensible how good Ilya was for his age. He was literally cheating on fundamentals and going apeshit on rendering.

[Anonymous No.3433526]

>>3432878
This.

[Anonymous No.3433624]

>>3433524
>cheating on fundamentals
>going apeshit on rendering
Like, are you people fucking retarded? What do you fucking think rendering is? Like, for fucks sake.

[Anonymous No.3433633]

>>3429459
Alright, this is fucking me up really bad.
It might not be tracing but fuck man, did he seriously had to copy it like that?
I myself copy a lot of poses from other arts for my drawings but he literally draw the same character in the same way displayed in the original material. Even if he did not trace its still really bad and makes me lose some of the respect I had for him.

[Anonymous No.3433637]

>>3433624
not that guy but rendering is not a fundamental.

[Anonymous No.3433643]

>>3433637
it is, tho

[Anonymous No.3433650]

>tfw one of your favorite artists ever who is one of the reasons you got into drawing actually copies arts from other people and sells it like his own

Hahaha this is rich! I'm being the poor shit that I am would rather starve than do something like that, and now I find out Illya of all artist been doing that for years!
Fucking hell you can't even trust the people you look up to! Even when I was a little kid copying drawings I felt bad about it. Fuck this gay planet.

[Anonymous No.3433651]

>>3433637
what, exactly, do you think rendering is if not a collection of fundamentals? How could you render something convincingly without knowing what the fuck you were doing?

[Anonymous No.3433666]

>>3433650
>copying
he made it better dumbass, as if any of you could do it

[Anonymous No.3433680]

>>3433666
>he made it better
Sure.
I think I will find some arts to "make better" too.
And get rich and famous while I'm at it.

[Anonymous No.3433684]

>>3433666
>made it better
>gives every female his favorite ayylmao sameface

[Anonymous No.3433686]

>>3429459
I fucking hate that artist, I hope one day he or she wakes up and lose all his abilities to draw and paint anything.

[Anonymous No.3433693]

>>3433680
then go do it, and stop pestering with your ridiculous bullshit this board

[Anonymous No.3433695]

>>3433680
>>3433684
green crabs

[Anonymous No.3433697]

>>3433693
I don't think you get it, retard.
What he did was STEAL art and sell it for his own profit.
But your stupid comments I'm guessing you are not an artist yourself and doesn't understand the problem.
He is lucky for getting away safely.

[Anonymous No.3433717]

>>3433697
then go to the police, and get him incarcerated. pretty sure you'll be judged as an accompice if you won't

[Anonymous No.3434383]

>>3429502
There is literally no downside. Just copy under an alt and make a shit ton of money. Make sure to keep your first account original. That way you can make money, be called a piece of shit when found out, and still have a good reputation.

Only thing stopping you is people here who you forget about in 10 minutes. If I was good enough I definitely wouldn't let these moralfags guilt trip me. Copying is lame though. I wouldn't do it myself because I'd rather make my own things.

[Anonymous No.3434394]

>>3433697
I understand the problem. I just don't want to see this thread every week. You'd think people would just stop after a while but no joke, people here are autistic.

[Anonymous No.3436283]

Not kr0n obviously, but now I've become intrigued with painting over images and saying it's your art. This is obviously a trace/paint over, right?
I'm now just wondering if there's a sure way to tell or not.

[Anonymous No.3436354]

>>3436283
It probably is, lay it over the original and see if they line up.

[Anonymous No.3436374]

>>3429459
In each of those examples the original is better so he should just make his own stuff instead.

[Anonymous No.3436383]

>>3436354
Just wondering but, shouldn't you be able to draw something to that accuracy anyway? So why is it treated as proof of tracing. Most artists who have been trained classically can draw proportions 1:1 especially easy in digital.

[Anonymous No.3436390]

>>3436383
Eh, sort of. I'm sure you can get near 100% with a lot of patience, but a lot of artists are just slightly off to the point where it doesn't really matter.

Either way, the artist in question clearly doesn't have a strong grasp of their fundies. Def traced if that's the case

[Anonymous No.3436397]

>>3436383
nope. they don't draw portraits 1:1, they accentuate the beautiful elements and simplify and such.

i have a super complex analogy.

in music harmony is where a bunch of notes sound nice together. the thing that determines whether or not they sound nice is the ratio of their frequencies, and how simple that ratio is. so if it's 1:2 that sounds nice because it's simple, if it's 17:37 then it sounds dissonant because it's too complex and your brain can't resolve the pattern easily. the same thing occurs with visuals, if something has simple proportions then it's prettier (more harmonious). so when you're drawing your subject they may have a 17:37 proportion in there but the artist will use a similar but simpler ratio, 20:40 (which is 1:2 again) to keep the picture looking nice. it's an unconscious thing.

[Anonymous No.3437515]

>>3436354
Ugh that pisses me off.. This guy's whole Instagram is in this "style" and he sells prints of them st anime and comicons. In the Facebook artist alley group I'm in, someone asked how much we all made at our first convention selling. He said $2,500

[Anonymous No.3437534]

>>3437515
>wahhh stop making money
Fuck off crabs, nobody cares that you made every line yourself, only the end product matters.

[Anonymous No.3437563]

>>3437534
Except when you pull shit like tracing photos, you're taking someone else's work (photography) and usage of someone's face and profiting off it. I doubt these people ask the models.

[Anonymous No.3437589]

>>3437563
>I doubt these people ask the models
It is rape then?