/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3420146]

I just lost faith in the religion of the aesthetic experience and the artistic genius. There is no such thing as "misunderstood genius" in art, it is incomprehensible to speak about the quality of a work of art independent of the sum total of the effects it has on people (basically, its popularity). The elevation of art to some quasi-transcendental gateway to eternal truths about beauty and the human condition is a very recent invention of the 19th century Romantic movement, intended to serve as a way of replacing waning religious faith in Christianity. An artist is just an entertainer, on par with a circus clown, he's certainly not an intellect on par with a scientist or a mathematician. If you're chasing artistic "greatness" then you've merely been deluded by a new-age religion. It's obvious to anyone who looks how arbitrary and corrupt the process of artistic canonization is.

Someone please console me.

[Anonymous No.3421124]

Plz dont cri anon. I think u should just have faith in having fun while making art. Bcuz if u dont enjoy art then u should maybe find another hobby good luck!

[Anonymous No.3421153]

>>3420146
>>3421124
Holy shit what fucking faggots you are

[Anonymous No.3421158]

>look how smart I am because I use all these big words and am sad because of the important thoughts I have

if you were so smart, you’d just draw

[Anonymous No.3421160]

>>3421158
>aesthetic
>incomprehensible
>elevation
>transcendental
>mathematician
>arbitrary
>canonization

these are the big words aren't they? lul. if you actually read his post, OP is a massive dumbass who confuses things that have nothing to do with each other and looks for deep meaning where there isn't.

[Anonymous No.3421173]

>>3420146
You should post this on /lit/ with a different image if you want to talk philosophy imo. That being said the conception of art as transcendental might have been a large part of the romantic movement but it in no way originated there, in fact it's been a large train of thought across all cultures throughout the ages

[Anonymous No.3421219]

>>3420146
>>3421174
Art is just an expression of unconscious desires.
The fans of art share these desires, and generally want to support it.
There are a lot of boring jobs built up to be more than they are.
People who become legends.
Almost like Paul Bunyan to lumberjacks.
You can accept that now, and be more successful with this knowledge, or you can be continually disappointed with what you do.

[Anonymous No.3421220]

>>3421219
>unconscious

Why did you use this word? It’s wrong.

[Anonymous No.3421238]

>>3421220
Explain how it's wrong.

[Anonymous No.3421243]

>>3420146
>The elevation of art to some quasi-transcendental gateway to eternal truths about beauty and the human condition is a very recent invention of the 19th century Romantic movement, intended to serve as a way of replacing waning religious faith in Christianity.

We told you it wouldn't work, we told you that it would descend into the hellish abyss of subjectivism, but you refused to listen

[Anonymous No.3421246]

>>3421238
The desires are conscious. They aren’t unconscious.

[Anonymous No.3421249]

>>3421246
Ah, it can be both.
It just wasn't worth pointing out in an already long paragraph.
A porn artist is probably more conscious than a horror writer, etc.

[Anonymous No.3421307]

>>3420146
>The elevation of art to some quasi-transcendental gateway to eternal truths about beauty and the human condition is a very recent invention of the 19th century Romantic movement
It's actually staggering how unaware of art history someone has to be to type this sentence

[Anonymous No.3421363]

>>3421307
What do you mean anon? A lot of art in the past has been done just as commission for pay for churches and wealthy families

>>3420146
OP can't art search for answers to questions about the human condition? It may not all be that way, but it's a medium like other media such as writing and film. Not all of it is philosophical but it can be. Conflating it all into one category doesn't help