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/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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3418648 No.3418648 [Reply] [Original]

Why was it that old art was filled with such qts?

What’s the best way to draw like this?

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>> No.3418658

Go ahead and take a look at artstation right now. Without even looking at it I can guarantee that at least 60% of everything you'll see is hot girl related. 85% if you take away the environments.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

>> No.3418671

>>3418648
>best way to draw like this?
Charcoal or soft 2B leads... usually 2mm used in tandem with a pocket sharpener. I fill composition books with portraits when I get sick of the book I'm reading.

>> No.3418673

>>3418648
That kind of art was generally commissioned by rich men, or are family portraits. They're supposed to be flattering.

>> No.3418674

>>3418658
It's boring as fuck though. It's at the point of oversaturation where you can recall almost all compositions from somewhere else. Shit for masses, nothing more.

>> No.3418682

>>3418658
It's actually only about 20%.

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>>3418648

>> No.3418689

>>3418673
This is preraphaelite. It's already professional modeling for marketing.

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>>3418674
Alas the truth is that this kind of art is better than the anime/manga shit most /ic/ artists aspire to.

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>>3418673
Some models were just as flattering as their portraits though (lolis included)

>> No.3418833

>>3418812
pedophile

>> No.3418871

>>3418812
Those old b/w photos were indeed flattering, because they had a natural softness caused by the limits of the technology and the long exposure times. We used to call this the "Barbara Walters filter."

Because old film required long exposures, these models also had to have very neutral poses and facial expressions. You might interpret this as poise, but it was a necessity.

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>>3418648
>>3418650
>>3418652
Seems to me the answer is to blur everything except details on the eyes, nose, mouth and hair for that dreamy style. Maybe like this for a modern attempt at that feeling?

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>>3418923

>> No.3418935

>>3418927
It's something to do with the eyes I think. They're always in the shadow, look how different >>3418913 is to OP's example for example.

>> No.3418937

..or maybe it has something to do with the viewer's eyes? Almost like depth of field in a sense, where the place the viewer most likely will look at first is the most clearly detailed part but the rest of it fades away.

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>> No.3419786

>>3418809
Lol. He even included himself in the picture

I wonder how many of these dudes ended up fucking their young models

>> No.3419806

>>3419786
Why does it matter if they fucked them? If you've ever met a girl that wants to model for nude paintings you'd know the basis of all those relationships are sexual. But at some point you need to realize that making the paintings is more important than fulfilling a girls dreams of being your muse. You'd be surprised how many artist model relationships are built on tension instead of action.

>> No.3421196

>>3418685
tried to draw this, ended up hating myself

>> No.3422714

>>3418812
That's a child not a "loli" you gross pedo

>> No.3424813 [DELETED] 

>>3421196
Draw it again, and do it better. I believe you can do it, now make me proud anon!

>> No.3424815

>>3421196
Draw it again, and do it better. I believe you can do it, now make me proud, anon!

>> No.3424816

>>3418923
>Mathilda Lando
Good taste.

>> No.3425671

>>3418809
I tried painting something that was noisy and had a lot of texture, and people were like "That shit's too noisy, I can't focus on anything. Oh, and the forms are too 3D. You gotta flatten them out."

Needless to say, people don't know what the fuck they want.

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>> No.3426456

>>3426447
trash

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>>3418648
bit of a fan of thayer for pretty girls,

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>>3418923
Liked your idea
Started from 1

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>>3418923
Passed by 2 bluring as suggested

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>>3418923
Got 3 lowering the saturation

>> No.3426640

>>3426447
haha ew

>> No.3428340

>>3422714
are you new here ?

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>> No.3430554

>>3426447
Not enough sfumato. I want her to look like she's half fog creature, half pillow.

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I enjoy the Fayoum portraits. The stranger the better.

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Hahaha

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>>3431471

>> No.3435307

>>3418923
its just emulating the way we see things irl, when we focus on a certain point ( e.g eyes) everything else is not in focus and therefore blurred.

>> No.3435311

>>3418871
they did also emulate paintings a bit more in those days, sort of the opposite of now, what 'just looked right' to them was based on all the paintings they'd seen, and what 'just looks right' to us is based on all the photography(+cinema/tv) that we've seen.

>> No.3435313

>>3418923
yep, same idea as make up