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3404606 No.3404606 [Reply] [Original]

Anybody got some /ic/ memes?

>> No.3404612
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>>3404606
thumbnail reminded me a bit of Russian artist waifu desu.
also, FiRez pls go

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>> No.3404617

>>3404612
Literally opened the thread so I would request your pic, thanks and fucking kek

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>> No.3404632

This is a stretch, but anyone got the 'where do you think you are', but it's Vilppu and Loomis?

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>>3404640
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1524868988591.webm

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>> No.3404646

>>3404642
but when does he draw? oh thats the joke

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>> No.3404674

>>3404668
best one

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>> No.3404676

FiRez pls go

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>>3404676
We miss him. When was the last time he posted?

>> No.3404685

>>3404675
This is too real.

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>>3404685

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>>3404689
>>3404685

Didn't mean to reply

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>> No.3404706

>>3404684
I don't. his ugly girls are unappealing, especially with their fat toes and sameface.

>> No.3404710

>>3404665
context? not 100% sure what's going on here

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>> No.3404739

>>3404713
God you're such a moron. Why can't you understand the difference between tracing and copying?

>> No.3404745

>>3404739
>copy paste reference layer on bottom
>draw over it
>because it's not pixel perfect it's not tracing
Lmfao the mental gymnastics of these retards trying to defend their bullshit. But I'm sure you have another shitty rationalization prepared, go ahead and explain the difference.

>> No.3404753

>>3404701
I still fucking can't believe this actually happened and proko didn't close down his channel.

>> No.3404764

>>3404659
I don't know why the framed picture of Feng in the corner made me laugh so much

>> No.3404775

>>3404745
I've never traced in my life and I have nothing to do with those posts. I just think you're an idiot for not understanding what those images show. You never posted anything with it showing that he directly drew over the top of the image, nor anything showing he claimed he drew them without reference. He clearly copied them as a way of testing his observational skills which is something every draftsman should do. It's literally no different than copying a still life and what he did is the same as the people who post those collections of their work in the improvement threads including their studies along with their more inventive work. What you copy from when studying doesn't matter, the skills it tests are exactly the same. You're just arbitrarily calling it a bad thing because he copied anime instead of a photo, a still life, or a master painting, which is asinine.

>> No.3404778

>>3404775
>Dumbass can't see it's clearly traced
NGMI

>> No.3404790

>>3404778
It's incredibly obviously not traced, you hopelessly hollow-headed fool.

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>> No.3404814

>>3404634
Fuck off randy

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>> No.3404822

>>3404606
FiRez pls go
ily tho firez,

>> No.3404823

>>3404634

whos that

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>>3404832

>> No.3404847

>>3404606
FiRez pls go

>> No.3404852

>>3404710
Firez made an almost 1-1 copy of a ref as a study and someone criticized it, thinking it was an original, by citing anatomical errors. The few changes he Firez made to the hip angle and shoulder are negligible.

>> No.3404862

>>3404606
FIRez plz go

>> No.3404886

>>3404606
firez please go

>> No.3404916

>>3404629
What did he mean by this

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>>3404606
Whoever drew this must be one of us.

>> No.3404989

https://imgur.com/a/IcV7s
meme worthy and this guy probably belongs to /ic/ like the rest of the crabs here

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>> No.3405012

Someone post the caveman thread

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>> No.3405022

>>3405014
Wow, could’ve sworn that was from 2017, not the beginning of 2016.

>> No.3405074

>>3404989
What is this? Some retard thought he was better than everyone so he sends people his shitty fanart?

>> No.3405078

>>3405074
Some autist makes fanart, gets pissed and harasses artists when they don't reblog or post it, draws art of their characters dead, and when blocked harasses them though alt accounts, all while whining about them being bigger and more popular than him

>> No.3405081

Someone pls post that one screencap of the guy with the boobs

>> No.3405083

>>3404629
Who is this and why are they so good?

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>>3405081

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>> No.3405132

>>3404989
wow, that is some weapons-grade autism

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>>3405126
that's oddly wholesome

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>>3404634
im still alive bitches. glad i made it to the meme list. that makes my butthole twitch a little bit.

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>>3404675

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>> No.3405225

>>3404920
KEK

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>>3404606
that face looks a lot like the ghost in 'what lies beneath' which i watched yesterday, which is funny because of the firez deadeye thing. hard to get a good screengrab

>> No.3405235

>>3404852
there are notable errors though, which one supposes come from inaccurate 1:1 copying. i do wonder if they're more noticeable because of the high quality painting though, it's amazing how a few minor measurement erros turn a pretty girl into a pretty scoliositic mutant

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>> No.3405313

>>3405258
is she the cam girl that brian wants to dick?

>> No.3405338
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+ Post your work then we talk if you dare to criticize this.

>> No.3405342

>>3405338
What is that thing? It looks like a cross between an armadillo and a turtle.

>> No.3405348

>>3405342
>What is that thing? It looks like a cross between an armadillo and a turtle.

Shut up crab. Post work, or BTFO.

>> No.3405350

>>3405348
Really though what kind of animal is that?

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>>3405338

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>>3405350
Snapping turtle I think

>> No.3405356

>>3405350
Post. Your. Work.

>> No.3405359

>>3405338
called an alligator snapping turtle i guess

>> No.3405360

>>3405357
Oh shit I never knew that's what they look like. Thanks.
>>3405356
Kudos on your commitment to the bit.

>> No.3405368

>>3404745
You're legit mentally retarded. God I fucking hate this place.

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>>3405338
>>3405352

>>/ic/thread/S3361207

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>> No.3405416

>>3405313
she dicked brian, took like 10k of his inheritance money and started dating another dude.

>> No.3405433

>>3405402
ayy i remember this

>> No.3405441

>>3405416
Proof of this? I mean I believe you but I really wanna see some screenshots.

>> No.3405443

>>3405416
nice lmao

>> No.3405445

>>3405257
I like Brian's art but he always makes himself look like a zika baby in all of his self portraits.

>> No.3405462

post tier list of teachers

>> No.3405472

>>3404713
>copying = tracing
This thread was retarded and your meme is retarded too. Yeah, reproducing another artist's work is definition of "master study".

>> No.3405480

>>3405472
master copy usually, master study is like cop-out language

>> No.3405500

>>3405480
Watch Vilppu's "Drawing Essentials week 3" or old "Sketching Figures" from VHS course. There in no rules how to "study". In "Sketching Figures" lecture he draw without construction from old masters

>> No.3405510

>>3405500
which is fine and all, i'm just saying that it's usually called a 'master copy' and 'master study' is a way to sort of pretend you're not copying something, even though you shouldn't worry about it. it's like people who do comics calling it 'sequential arts' like calling them comics suggests they can't have artistic value.

>> No.3405613

>>3405441
happened in threads like, 8 months ago, might be in archives of old draw threads.

>> No.3405647

>>3404657
>it's been 4 years since I've seen that image
jesus

>> No.3405672

>>3405004
he's right you know?

>> No.3405681

>>3405250
kino

>> No.3405738

>>3405510
It's not the same as that at all. It's the same as copying equations out of your math book and trying to solve them to make sure you've learned how the formula works. You paint or draw something recognizable so you have a direct comparison to pinpoint exactly what you did wrong. You study other artists' work to learn something from their technique or style and by trying to reproduce it exactly you once again get a direct comparison to pinpoint exactly what you did wrong. It's "usually" called a master study because it is a way of studying. Nobody who uses the term is trying to hide the fact they referenced another image, nobody fucking cares. Copying is the point of it. If they refer to it as a study they're not trying to pass it off as their own original work which is the only thing that would make it egregious.

>> No.3405751

FiRez pls go

>> No.3405752

>>3405751
Actually, I haven't seen FiRez post in a while. Where has he been?

>> No.3405754

>>3404713
He didn't trace them though.
Why are you being autistic anon?

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>>3405014
>symbol carving
>rockbash
>read the totem
this is gold

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The one and only

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rare loomis

>> No.3405794

>>3405789
Is this a jab at rinchan?

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the crabbiest crab

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>>3405794
dunno senpai, I just really like the mannequins

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from the knee thread

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tools don't matter

>> No.3406104

>>3404629
apart from this pedo shit congratulations for them for learning to draw with their other hand

>> No.3406108

FiRez plz go

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*snaps belt threateningly*

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>>3405313
She's not the girl I dick, that's some Italian girl that looks like her, catt's the one that gives me the dicking, and occasionally the Italian girl joins us LOL

>> No.3406138

>>3406133
Mostly me and catt just ignore each other and I hang out with the Italian girl and she hangs out with another dude. You know, love!

>> No.3406143

>>3406133
I've already said too much

>> No.3406150

>>3406133
If you guys had been better artists this could've been you, but alas

>> No.3406159

>>3406133
Also "some Italian girl" is really dismissive but I'm not gonna say her name on 4chan

>> No.3406180

>>3406159
Also I'm crushingly depressed all the time cause on nights like this they both hate me so I'm on fucking 4chan

>> No.3406185

>>3406180
I hate finals week

>> No.3406205

God, you're so pathetic. This thread's not about you. Fuck off and drown yourself in booze.

>> No.3406210

>>3406180
>cause on nights like this they both hate me so I'm on fucking 4chan

new levels of schizophrenia
get help brian.

>> No.3406212

>>3406210
Well next time a bar wants to kick you out cause your side ho keeps trying to take her clothes off and have sex with you cause she had too much to drink YOU GO AHEAD AND LET ME KNOW BUD

>> No.3406252

>>3406212
for real she kept trying to take her tits out and I was like noooooooooo theres people around and she was shoving them in my face and I was like aaaaaaaaaah lemme drink my coffee. catt doesn't do that to me so much.

>> No.3406257

>>3404665
Oh my fucking god, my sides are in orbit

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>>3405797

>> No.3406325

>>3406252
totally not the relationship me and catt have btw, but that girl in that picture really did try to have sex with me in public and the bar owner had to sit me down and ask me what happened and I was like dude idk.

>> No.3406346

>>3404692
>I miss Teal
I did not ask for this feel today anon

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>>3406346
Teal will be back someday. But I'm still here.

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>>3404606

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>> No.3406751

>>3406349
god no i hope he never comes back

>> No.3406768

>>3406357
I laughed out loud for this

>> No.3406785

>>3404713
>Well they are still good copies, this isnt tracing he can actually dra-
>>3404715
OH NO NO NO NO

>> No.3406797

>>3405127
lmao is this the thread where that faggot got idiots to draw his shit oc by putting it on "my style/your style" template? I told them they were fucking idiots and they just said ITS FUN HURRR and sticked their ass out for a through fucking kek

>> No.3406801

>>3405802
the knee meme was cringy and unfunny as fuck
>IT LOOK LIKE A FACE LEL

>> No.3406808

>>3404606
FiRez pls go

>> No.3406819
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>>3405738
Ignoring the fact that they didn't "study" shit and just copied their refs- you don't learn anything as a beginner by copying anime alone.
And master studies are master studies because you're studying the works of- wait for it- MASTERS.

The simple truth is- anon got caught trying to pass off those images as his own work and tried weaseling out of it by shouting "masterstudy!"

>> No.3406933

>>3406252
>>3406138
You should be painting these two girls at it, there is serious money and pleasure to be had from this, you doofus.

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Non-one's mentioned special pillow freak yet?

>> No.3406939

>>3406935
I really felt bad for him. Sure, he's got some weird fantasies but he didn't deserve all the flack he got. Not to mention lots of online clients are like him, if not worse.

>> No.3407121

>>3406933
Catt hates being naked and the other girl can't get naked without fucking me sooooooo probably not gonna happen

>> No.3407124

>>3407121
>this is what dunning-kruger incels actually believe

>> No.3407130

>>3407124
Do you want my life? You can have it.

>> No.3407137

>>3406819
>you don't learn anything as a beginner by copying
How does it feel to be THIS clueless? We can all see you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, so feel free to shut the fuck up now. I'd ask you to post your work and prove me wrong, but that single sentence told me more about your skill and knowledge than your entire portfolio ever could. Just give up.

>> No.3407138

>>3404606
FiRez pls go

>> No.3407192

>>3407137
>you don't learn anything as a beginner by copying anime alone
>you don't learn anything as a beginner by copying

I like how you deliberately removed "anime" from the end of my statement just to prove your point. Are you worried I'm going to force you to study lessons from actual teachers or something? Don't be scared little brainlet, I won't make you do anything. It's okay to stay mediocre, not everyone has the willpower to pick up an anatomy book.

>> No.3407212
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Hello everyone. I just wanted to tell my story of how I got kicked out from Artwork/Critique board on 4chan.

I started posting on 4chan since April of this year. I wanted to take advantage of the fact that 4chan is world's largest English language image board. I wanted to publicize my art. I wanted to make friends. I wanted to practice giving critiques since I was away from art school (risd) for a year and half on voluntary leave. And if people wanted to give me critiques that would be welcome as well.

I didn't know /ic/ didn't like abstract art and had certain standards or preferences in regard to art. Most of the art on /ic/ was very mediocre - I would rate them below the average quality at DeviantArt. When I shared my older works, the responses were good, but the responses for my newer, experimental works were hugely negative. They criticized about how the experimental works did not follow the anatomy correctly or lacked understanding of the color theory and was too muddy. There were some who defended me, saying to arrive at something new one needed not to strictly follow the anatomy. I followed one anon's advice for one of my paintings titled Extraterrestrial, which went, "…use a darker color in the upper corners, create contrast with the green by making the shirt completely red with a PLAIN base…"

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>>3407212
Because the criticisms were too harsh I had to defend myself by saying I know what I am doing (they said I don't) and I was student at RISD and I was favorite student of my painting professor. I even had to show my student ID with some parts edited. I also said most works on /ic/ were mediocre anyways, so why were they so focused on criticizing me and my works? Most people on /ic/ never shared their own works, but just posted works they liked by Renaissance masters and pretended as if /ic/ was filled with great masterpieces, when that was not the case in reality. They were delusional.

They (the anons) said I was delusional (no I wasn't), I didn't know what I was doing (yes I did), I didn't accept critiques (I accepted some, not all), there was no meaning in my works, and I did not experiment but did the same muddy paintings over and over. So what was more experimental? Drawing what you see or drawing what you think? I was the latter. They dismissed the whole style of mine as same, unexperimental, boring, not-knowing, not following rules, devoid of meaning, etc. To me it appeared they didn't like experimental, abstract works (there were constantly threads popping up about not liking van Gogh, or Rothko making someone angry, or Pollack being something a child could do), but they didn't have the guts to attack works by well known artists, and they were ideologically driven, saying every time they encounter an abstract work by unknown artist that the artist doesn't know what s/he's doing.

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>>3407218
I would get banned frequently by janitors just for posting my works because they were not "high quality" - it was their way of shoving their ideologically driven hatred of abstract art over me.. by saying my works were sub-par quality although the whole /ic/ was filled with mediocre sketches and digital art. When I complained by saying my works were better than most works on /ic/, they banned me again for "trolling" - their way of saying they didn't like me insulting /ic/. It was okay for anons to say my works were shitty, but when I said anons' works were also shitty, I got banned. And when I happened to mention my little brother's IQ was over 160, they banned me without reason. I don't know why. They really didn't like me.

They were truly delusional because they imposed all these very high standards on themselves, calling my works shitty, but I saw nothing that met their own standards. Yet they called me delusional.

They asked me to do one painting in photorealistic style. It was a trap. They told me to not do the impressionist buildup of brushwork using different colors but to be as plain as possible. They didn't want my works to have decorational effect and interesting colors. They wanted me to use the plainest colors exactly as in a photograph. They pretended as if they wanted me to succeed, but when I showed them my painting of two tigers fighting, they laughed at it and compared it to photorealistic paintings by graduate students in some art school and said RISD must suck. They said I was a loser, and I would eventually drop out of RISD because I wouldn't be able to improve and handle the work load (I could handle it). They said they looked at my profile picture, and that I was ugly mongoloid, and I had small sexual organ. This was ridiculous because it was against 4chan's rules to make racist remarks, but here they were - getting away with it. They were the ones trolling, but they accused me trolling and banned me.

>> No.3407225

>>3407223
They were the ones shitting on /ic/ with horrible drawings, but they accused me of shitting and got me banned for several months.
The anons did a smear campaign, posting stupid, racist remarks under my name. They kept accusing me of "samefagging" which means I keep spamming comments on my own thread pretending as if many people are interested in talking about my work. I never samefagged ever. They said judging from the deteriorating quality of my works I must have mental issues. There was one study thread where we were to draw a portrait of a girl. Mine was clearly better than others, but they pretended mine looked completely different from the reference photo and didn't capture "essence", and suggested it was due to mental problems.

I made a slideshow of my best works and shared it in a progression thread. They again said they observed deterioration in quality of my works and suggested I had mental issues. .

I knew they were delusional and were ideologically driven in their hatred of me and my works because they said my best works were shitty. There was no way to reason with them. There was no way for me to understand where they were coming from. And most of all, it was this sort of destructive "critiques" that I rejected. They said I didn't listen to critiques, advices, etc. so I had no reason to post in the artwork/critique board - but these were not even critiques. They were destructive, not constructive. They even told me to start over and paint over one of my best works. It was clear they knew it was one of my best works and wanted me to mess it up. They were ridiculous.

>> No.3407230

>>3407225
And they said I had no friends and lied about being student at RISD because most of my RISD friends didn't like my public facebook page, and none had commented or liked my posts on the page.

There is no way to get around this problem of me being abused by anons and janitors (moderators). If I e-mail the admin or moot who founded 4chan, they ignore it. The system is designed so the oppressed have no way to challenge the bullying powers of the anonymous trolls and ideologically driven janitors.

What do you guys think?

>> No.3407334

>>3407212
>>3407218
>>3407223
>>3407225
>>3407230
I didnt post these myself here. An imposter

>> No.3407342

>>3407334
doesn't stop them from being hilariously retarded

>> No.3407383

>>3406819
The guy never said he only copied anime alone, that's only a screen cap of one group of drawings he posted. He never tried to pass them off as his own he said right there that he drew some of them as studies and he included works he had drawn by himself along with the ones that were studies. You're just making a bunch of assumptions and logical leaps to make what he did look bad when there was absolutely nothing at all wrong with it.
And by the way I started out drawing by copying from anime and I know without a doubt I draw better than you ever will, you close-minded, short-sighted idiot.

>> No.3407391

>>3406133
is this picture a meme? that's not really brian, right?

>> No.3407396

>>3404606
Here's a good /ic/ meme

why the fuck does my upload fail every time i try to make a thread

>> No.3407405

>>3405122
>>3405121
>This is from almost 9 years ago

Holy shit

>> No.3407406

>>3407383
We all know it's you faggot.

>> No.3407413

>>3407406
Nope, I'm not him. The animes he was showing weren't even out yet back when I was at that stage. But I'm glad you're both too stupid to realize what that anon was doing and why other people are calling you stupid for it. If you can't grasp such a simple concept you'll never grasp any higher level art knowledge.

>> No.3407423

>>3407413
You dumb shit nobody is laughing at you copying from preexisting manga art, we're laughing because you called it a fucking master study lmao

Go ahead and back up your superiority though. Post ya werk.

>> No.3407441

>>3407423
Again, I'm not the guy from that thread and way to shift the goal posts. You say "we're" but nobody is on your side. Every single post itt that responded to you was calling you a dumbass. So WE are laughing at YOU because you can't tell the difference between copying and tracing. And now you say oh no, it had nothing to do with it being copies, it's because he called it a master study! But all of your other arguments in this thread and the thread where we were calling you out on this before were all about how we were so blind and how we >>3404778
>can't see it's clearly traced
Your damage control aside, a master study is effectively the same term as a study. It's usually used to refer to classical western painters but there's no reason it can't apply to any professional artist and considering those animes are hugely successful published works it's fair to consider them masters of their craft. You have nothing here. And I will post my work right after you post yours.

>> No.3407446

>>3407192
I omitted it because it was irrelevant and you are wrong either way, fucktard. Try and read EXACTLY what you wrote there. Look for key words and try one word at a time if it's too hard for you.
Also,
who the FUCK do you people think you are, telling other random strangers on the Internet what they should and shouldn't study from and making le epic xD screenshot memes about them, you utter fucking pricks? First you claimed he was tracing which he was obviously not. When you caved in and admitted you were wrong, you jumped to "b-but he was drawing anime!!!". You have spouted nothing but statements so profoundly ignorant, it's painfully obvious that YOU DO NOT DRAW. Fuck off.

>> No.3407458

>>3407441
Been reading through this thread, and all I'm going to say is you're an autist.
Also
>I know I'm better than you
>but you must post your work first before I post mine
Lmao, autistic and retarded.

>> No.3407475

>>3407458
Uh, calm down there buddy, you actually have me confused with another user. I never said your work was a trace, my first post itt is >>3407406

And you know Hiramoto Akira relies exclusively on tracing from software such as Poser? You can tell when he isn't using it because his anatomy, proportions and perspective go to shit. He is not a master by any standard.

But the burden of proof is on you to prove your claims though. You don't get to run around telling people they don't/can't draw and then puss the fuck out when challenged to show us what much better you are. Prove it or puss out. Your decision.

>> No.3407491

>>3406797
I don't get why you think people drawing for fun is somehow bad. Why are you acting like they were tricked? That faggot just got lucky and the his stupid kicked in and he thought he was a hustler.

>> No.3407499

>>3407458
Says the autistic retard who can't tell the difference between tracing and copying. The only reason I insist you post your work first is because with the utter disregard for logic you've demonstrated here I know that if I post first you won't actually post your work and no matter what I post you'll say it's shit and get away with this bullshit another day. I know that I will go through with posting because I already know your work, if you draw at all, is garbage from how dense you are but if I put my skin in the game I'll be damned if you aren't going to too. Then everyone can see what kind of shit tier work your kind of idiotic thinking leads to and one small corner of all the shitty misinformation that gets spread around here will be erased for good.

>> No.3407511

>>3407458
He's never going to post shit so I'm gonna go ahead and post it for him.

https://gevoian.deviantart.com
https://www.instagram.com/gevoian/

>If you can't grasp such a simple concept you'll never grasp any higher level art knowledge
>it's painfully obvious that YOU DO NOT DRAW. Fuck off

It's all extremely heavily referenced body shots with extremely heavily referenced/copied anime heads glued with these weird little chicken claws glued on for hands. So much for those master studies huh. Nigga wants so bad to be Akira Hiramoto it's painful.

Also he's 17/underagv&.

>> No.3407512

>>3407499
Can we all just focus on the fact that Brian has threesomes with beautiful girls every night and we're all losers by comparison?

>> No.3407515

>>3407512
speak for yourself

>> No.3407525

>>3407511
I have no idea who that is but it's not me and not my work. I will post mine after this idiot posts his. In fact I'm drawing something right now for once he does.

>> No.3407542

>>3407525
A'ight, here are some recent sketches. Note I never once stated that I was better than anybody but now you're obligated to post ya werk.

Imgur link because 4chan has been returning "upload failed" all night:
http://imgur.com/oDH5C3I

>> No.3407558 [DELETED] 

THIRTY MINUTES ANON I AM WAITING

>> No.3407561

>>3407542
Okay as soon as I'm done drawing this picture I'll post it.

>> No.3407563

Convenient how the once mouthy Anon has disappeared since the other guy posted their work.

>> No.3407567

>>3407561
lol no, post existing work now or don't post at all you little puss-puss.

>> No.3407570

>>3407230
>moot
;_;

>> No.3407599

>>3407567
Fine, here's a compilation of some of my most recent sketches. https://imgur.com/a/vucsOzX
Now you know that I'm not that guy. If those really are your sketches then I have to admit your art isn't shit tier and I'm not necessarily better than you. I'll even admit I like the style and the whimsical nature it has to it. But now I'm even more baffled how someone who seems to have some eye for drawing really can't tell those weren't traced and the intent behind them. It looks like you took influence from western cartoons, but you make fun of people for doing the same with Japanese ones? Beginners need to practice accuracy so why be against copying anyway? We're all supposed to be here to learn and help each other learn and I hate seeing people shit on legitimate learning techniques, spreading misinformation, and just generally discouraging people. I wanted to try to stop some of that but I'm sure I'll only see this in the next meme thread and fuck all will change around here.

>> No.3407633
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Stagnation?

>> No.3407635

why do people on here fight so much lol

>> No.3407649

>>3407599
Fucking hell take the shit out of your fucking ears man because this is the third and last fucking time I've told/telling you - I'm not the Anon who said the manga shit was fucking traced. Not everybody who disagrees with you is the same person goddamn. I like your art also and appreciate your skill. I'd actually say that we're probably about equal in skill albeit indulge in different styles, but next time you get into an internet dick waving contest do not go around saying shit like "you're an idiot who doesn't understand art, you don't even draw" because then it doesn't matter how good you are, you will always look like an insecure jackass who's shitting on others to pump up his own ego, and people who are confident in their work don't need to do that because they already know they're good.

>> No.3407655 [DELETED] 

>>3407649

>Doesn't post his art after calling someone out who just did but makes claims they are equally skilled

This is my first post in this thread, but dude....

>> No.3407665
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not meme but nostalgia

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>> No.3407684

>>3407635
its just this one guy he derails every thread he goes in

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this is lol

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>> No.3407696

>>3407685
shieeet I remember this one, does anyone have that cinematic version with rose pedals flowing through and some red dude is being told to take the baseball or something to that context.

>> No.3407705

>>3407691
>icrit
That was yikes

>> No.3407707

>>3407705
lmfao

>> No.3407711

>>3405133
This is sad.

Also, someone post the one where she's drawn by an ubermensch.

>> No.3407713

>>3407711
I came here to post this

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>> No.3407720
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One time an artist dropped by to claim that they worked on a Cartoon Network show where pic related on the right got cucked out by the hedgehog in the middle and I’m gonna assume that that’s what the entire show is about. Not a meme but I felt like sharing.

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>>3407711

>> No.3407729
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>>3404606
That is a rather old firez pic

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>>3407729
>those mad art gains

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Last one I got for now.

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>>3407729
At least post it in a higher resolution

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>>3407720
>artist dropped by
Did they really? the show in question looks absolute shit and the elephant did get cucked

>> No.3407750

>>3407738
Is this recent? Firez got good. Beautiful faces and bodies.

>> No.3407769

>>3407738
What's with the girl getting an injection in her asscheek?

>> No.3407770

>>3407745
Yeah, that’s where I got the pic. I didn’t feel like it was worth screenshotting, but if I knew how bad the show was at the time I would’ve.
The worst thing about it are the baby voices. The whole thing irritates me on some primal level

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>>3407745
It was this thread, but trying to open the link gets a 404

>> No.3407785

>>3407770
>>3407779
What's the name of the show?

>> No.3407802

>>3407785
Forgot the name but /co/ regularly has threads on how bad it is >>>/co/100129953

>> No.3407803

>>3407802
I'm stupid. I meant to say go ask /co/ about it

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>>3407750
Yep. Quite recent. Idk why people gave him so much shit. Can’t blame him for leaving

>> No.3407814

>>3407649
fuck yea dude, tell that bitch off! *gives you a high five*

>> No.3407853

>>3407678
the HnK one is the defo the best one

>> No.3407856

>>3407720
>that qt hedgehog girl turned into the monstrosity in >>3407745
Hope that d/ic/k gets a gig on a better show.

>> No.3407870

>>3405613
Couldn't find it, I'm dying to know what happened though

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>>3407334
Nonsense, these are clearly the mentalist postings of the Pastelchu fruitloop.

>> No.3407878

>>3407810
He is good, but his stuff gets quite boring after a while desu

>> No.3407948

>>3404606
FIRez pls go

>> No.3407957
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Are we still doing the crab meme?

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>>3407957
yeah but it wont last long. it will definitely die out before the end of this year.

>> No.3408079

>>3407720
That's fanart. Look at the markings on elephant man's pajamas.

>> No.3408210

>>3404701
>>3404686
Can I get a quick rundown on this

>> No.3408212

>>3408210
popular youtube artist tried to draw a kangaroo from imagination on stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h4-2HRHaHI

>> No.3408334

>>3404647
...But, where's the bucket?

>> No.3408343
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>>3404640

>mfw i made this

>> No.3408359

>>3405015
Does anyone have the original thread?

>> No.3408375 [DELETED] 

>>3405015
Does anyone have the original thread?

>> No.3408383

>>3408359
There's a handful of replies that agree and are variations of lol.

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>>3405133
>>3407728

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>> No.3408399

>>3408383
what was >>3405015 replying to ?

>> No.3408400

>>3408399
Use warosu

>> No.3408551

>>3404670
Underrated post.
I guess no one else was in that thread.

>> No.3408646

>>3406133
Nobody falls for my bait anymore... I've lost my touch. I used to be able to derail threads so easily what happened

>> No.3408653

>>3408646
I feel like people actually look forward to me posting my art now. Is this it? Should I kill myself?

>> No.3408654

>>3408646
It's just sad to watch you do this at this point. Ironic or not, you should get some help.

>> No.3408657

>>3404606
FiRez pls go kek

>> No.3408669

>>3404638
For real?

>> No.3408677

>>3408654
Nah I'm just bored... can't get anyone to sit for a drawing. I'd rather be posting art than shitposting but I just can't do anymore still lifes and you guys always tell me you'd rather I do nothing than the same tired still lifes over and over

>> No.3408680

>>3408677
So draw something from imagination.

>> No.3409391
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Learning to copy a reference image is probably the most important thing you can learn and it should be something you learn to do if you are interested in dramatically improving.
First let me just say this as concisely as possible. If you cannot copy another image/photo faithfully, what chance do you have of giving your own concepts and ideas any justice. If you cannot copy a face and get the proportions right how will you be able to visualize one in your head and do the same.


Copying is easier then drawing from scratch. You can make observations and comparisons. It's less draining emotionally and physically. Overall its the perfect way of knowing how well you handle your pencil.


I'm not saying here that you must faithfully reproduce and image to be do this well but you must be able to capture the essence of a drawing/photograph with no anxiety or frustration. This will transfer into your art as you gain confidence in your individual strokes as well as gathering innate knowledge on anatomy, facial relationships and various other shapes and concepts.

>> No.3409496

>>3407446
Hi tracing-anon

>> No.3409500

>>3407684
i swear i don’t do it on purpose

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>>3404713
i don’t see why you all suddenly care about plagiarism/tracing. kronz did the same thing for a longer period of time and you worship him

>> No.3409531

>>3407383
i started out by copying anime too
and it stunted the shit out of me. i could be leagues ahead of where i am if someone- anyone- suggested a better way to improve.

and there are better ways to improve. we can agree on that much, right?

>> No.3409540

>>3404668
trying my best not to laugh at work

>> No.3409572
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>>3404713
>skill level then
>skill level now
you too can achieve this by copying without understanding and refusing the aide of masters & professionals. breathe it in lads, this is what peak performance looks like

>> No.3409619

>>3409572
Forearm's connection to hand looks fucked, yet some considered this as peak performance. Go fuck yourself. XDXD

>> No.3409776

>>3409525
You obviously weren't here a week or so ago when we had 2 hate threads for him running.

>> No.3410309
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>>3404606
fresh out of the oven
get it while its hot

>> No.3410313

>>3404606
FiRez pls go

Also what's FiRez?

>> No.3410316
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>>3404606
FiRez pls go

hope no one posted this here already

>> No.3410326

>>3405011
I laughed out loud at that one. I thought it was a naga desu since those were popular back int he day of tartlets.

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>>3410316
>my turn

>> No.3410331

>>3407405
>9 years ago)
jesus christ i was there for that...

>> No.3410333

>>3407635
/ic/ is kinda the only part of 4chan that still feels like 07 4chan to me in terms of how shitty people are to eachother, but it's easier to get legitimate critique and advice nowadays if you're not an absolute beginner.

>> No.3410339

>>3407770
Same. They either hope the show will go on long enough for the same voice actors voices to just change naturally (Like Steven's from Steven Universe) rather than needing to replace them at a later point (Like The Amazing World of Gumball, but they handled the switch in actors really well).

The whole show just makes me fucking rage, especially with how many cartoon pilots are out there right now with more interesting art (art that would probably still be about the same price to animate), BETTER art, and more interesting premises.

Fuck this show I hope it bombs so bad that the creator can't get work anymore. That's how much this show fills me with rage.

>> No.3410340

>>3407785
summer camp island i think

>> No.3410427

Looking for the perspective iceberg meme i saw a year or two back

>> No.3410442

>>3408669

Unironically? Of course. Drawing anime without knowing the fundamentals of anatomy, lighting, and materials are how disasters are made.

>> No.3410933

>>3406935
Story?

>> No.3411130

>>3405804
Where's this from?

>> No.3411150

>>3411130
new master academy

>> No.3411154

>>3406357
best

>> No.3411159

>>3411150
I meant what lesson?

>> No.3411163

>>3411159
One of the drawing fundamentals with Sheldon Borenstein. Can't remember which one.

>> No.3411164

>>3404606
FiRez pls go

>> No.3411383

>>3404644
god what an ugly thing, and i get that its suppose to be satire, but its terribly done.

>> No.3411459

>>3404606
FiRez pls go

>> No.3411511
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Any potential?

>> No.3411564

>>3404640
>showering

>> No.3411582

>>3405014
>merc_oogabooga
God this pic will always be funny.

>> No.3411609

>>3404675
>>3405144
I don't get it.

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>>3405793

>> No.3411737

>>3405235
Are you full on Asperger autistic or are you actually that dense?

>> No.3411756

>>3404606
FiRez pls go

>> No.3411977

>>3408079
It’s an /ic/ redesign it seems. Not sure if the OP was the first to post it or not.

>> No.3414069

>>3407633
He's better than 96% of /ic/ post your work or fuck off mate.