/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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/beg/ - BEGINNER THREAD Anonymous Mon Apr 23 16:24:45 2018 No.3400262 [Reply] [Original]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>3395630

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 16:25:04 2018 No.3400263
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ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stan Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:08:45 2018 No.3400343
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>>3400262
copied this from some insanely good 17year old girl from teh Sycra forum.

had a way harder time making this than I should have.
does blending and painting become more natural after doing it alot?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:11:29 2018 No.3400347 >>3400343 Literally everything becomes more natural after doing it a lot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:45:13 2018 No.3400384 File: 2.20 MB, 4032x3024, 1739DAA1-210B-4A4C-9052-8F6E03ED780F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should I finish this turd or just scrap it? Please I need an honest opinion

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:46:44 2018 No.3400386 >>3400384 what you tryin to do

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:47:28 2018 No.3400388 Ic >>3400384 I can not understand

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:47:41 2018 No.3400389 File: 2.76 MB, 750x1334, 17E29A8F-224B-4E3F-8B6F-C159471398A0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3400384 Sorry don’t know why it flipped

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:48:43 2018 No.3400390 >>3400386 I’m trying to subtly make this tree look like an old man

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:49:49 2018 No.3400393 >>3400388 What do you not understand?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:54:35 2018 No.3400399 File: 119 KB, 1080x1080, 20180423_164057-1080x1080.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] study if you notice something of or you have some information to add tell me I will upload two more studies

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:56:04 2018 No.3400401 File: 144 KB, 1080x1080, 20180423_164115-1080x1080.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] own study using notes references from Michael Hampton

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 17:57:37 2018 No.3400403 File: 106 KB, 1080x1080, 20180423_164105-1080x1080.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] same

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 18:20:27 2018 No.3400424 >>3400389 it's a tree right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 18:21:29 2018 No.3400425 >>3400401 What book?

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 18:26:04 2018 No.3400430

>>3400425
anon

this are studies using my own skull
but I use Michael Hampton figure

(design and invention) drawing to know what to look for.

If i see something important i draw it and i mark it with a pen.

again this are no copies. the book has lot of better notes than me

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 18:37:30 2018 No.3400455 >>3400424 Yep

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 18:40:41 2018 No.3400458 >>3400430 Appreciate it, thank you

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 18:49:33 2018 No.3400470 File: 815 KB, 861x490, skeltal.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3400430 I didn't know people used their own skull, what's the best affordable x-ray machine for artists? cool drawings btw, these are my boners from yesterday

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 18:56:02 2018 No.3400477 Working through The Natural Way to draw. Holy shit he wasn't joking that your first contour drawings aren't going to resemble the model at all.

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:01:55 2018 No.3400481
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i have this problem where no matter what i do, any portrait i draw doesn't look anything like the reference

this is my third attempt. is this something that just comes with practice and intuition or is there a set method to portraying the exact character of a face?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:05:24 2018 No.3400484 File: 47 KB, 800x600, 10609660_559124127586940_4972172081253429614_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:06:20 2018 No.3400486 File: 158 KB, 888x1208, fuck my shit up.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I was trying practise some foreshortening, I fucked up big time kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:07:43 2018 No.3400488 >>3400486 dude you suck ass lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:08:37 2018 No.3400490 >>3400484 nice foreshortening. A lot of anons might not be able to tell but that horizon line is expertly placed. Good job anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:10:49 2018 No.3400493 >>3400389 yeah keep going with it, its a good learning experience

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:11:21 2018 No.3400494 >>3400488 yep, literally love anilingus

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:11:54 2018 No.3400495 >>3400490 are you SURE you replied to the right anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:13:31 2018 No.3400498 File: 887 KB, 1536x2560, girlwithdressoutline.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] first digital painting, done from a sketch I did, any tips would be greatly appreciated this feels so unnatural

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:14:15 2018 No.3400500 File: 75 KB, 490x604, andrewatroshenkodancer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3400498 ref I'm not sure where to go from here

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:22:42 2018 No.3400507

>>3400481
I have a similar problem, I think it has to do with 'symbol drawing'. Those aren't his eyes, they're eyes that you already know how to draw and have stored in your head for whenever you need to draw eyes. I've caught myself doing this a lot lately, it produces decent looking faces but they rarely look like the reference.

>>3400500
Why not start small with like a hand or something before diving into a drapery elite god masterwork, it is your first digital painting after all

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:25:55 2018 No.3400511 >>3400486 Read Perspective Made Easy. That book is amazing and it's for doing exactly what you tried to do. Also don't be afraid to use a ruler. It isn't cheating.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:27:56 2018 No.3400513 How does one gain a style? How will I know when I have one?

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:28:46 2018 No.3400517

I'm not really sure how to phrase this question so sorry if it doesn't make much sense, but do you guys have any tips/resources for drawing the less rendered parts of a painting? i.e. the bit that isn't the focus? I feel like my focal points are fine but i literally can't wrap my head around the transition from high detail to low detail.

Am I just retarded?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:35:29 2018 No.3400524 File: 582 KB, 490x604, blue.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3400498 red lines are vital green lines are my guesses at construction

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 19:58:31 2018 No.3400551 Does blind contour drawing actually improve your drawing skill?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:38:12 2018 No.3400581 >>3400551 From what I read, it's an exercise to get you used to looking at the thing you're copying. It can be a quick warmup or an easy way to make /beg/ bait, but not much else

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:42:05 2018 No.3400583 >>3400513 you don't want style if you're in /beg/

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:50:36 2018 No.3400590 >>3400493 Is it bad though?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:55:09 2018 No.3400593 File: 123 KB, 813x813, 1505627825962.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I get better at drawing? Is it OK to keep polishing turds like this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 20:57:05 2018 No.3400594 >>3400593 What are you aiming to do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 21:01:33 2018 No.3400595 >>3400593 ah, the nose looks really off center to the point where it screams at you see if you can fix that, leave it be if you can't

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 21:15:45 2018 No.3400603 File: 67 KB, 640x640, 17596545_463943587270199_1884613288499609600_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this is about a year old still think its decent, crit it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 22:02:02 2018 No.3400626 >>3400603 proportions and lips are fuckin weird but i really like your shading desu, could be a little heavier in places tho

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 22:27:07 2018 No.3400640

>>3400590
No, but regardless I think having a completed piece will highlight all of the things you are doing wrong, or things that you don't like, and it will bring you through the whole process as opposed to just doing construction and then stopping over and over.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 22:28:14 2018 No.3400642 >>3400524 thanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 22:56:18 2018 No.3400664 What kind of exercises are there if I have nothing to draw from reference and can't draw from imagination?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 22:58:40 2018 No.3400665 >>3400664 Draw from life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 23:02:51 2018 No.3400667 >>3400664 Yeah, draw from life. Draw anything. Draw boxes and shapes in perspective. And if you are really lost just doodle

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 23:30:33 2018 No.3400689 File: 552 KB, 3000x4000, gay shit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any glaring mistakes I should be aware of?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 23:46:30 2018 No.3400703 File: 10 KB, 201x304, hmmm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How much should one rely on the line tool when drawing interior backrounds?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 23:55:42 2018 No.3400711 >>3400665 >Nothing to draw from reference >"Draw from life" >>3400667 >Can't draw from imagination "Just doodle" Double what

Anonymous Mon Apr 23 23:57:32 2018 No.3400715
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This is probably the first thing I've drawn that I don't actively hate. I don't have much of a problem with studies but any sort of posing and stylization makes everything fall apart. Tear into it, I want to improve

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 00:11:12 2018 No.3400728 File: 1.14 MB, 3264x1836, 20180423_230614.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm studying Loomis's figure movements without an eraser, how do it look?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 00:14:03 2018 No.3400730 >>3400728 previous work

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 00:14:48 2018 No.3400731
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>>3400481
go through the keys to drawing book by dodson
It's a book that pretty much is made to address the problem you're having.
search up the pdf on google and download that shit, it's free.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 00:15:49 2018 No.3400733 File: 1.26 MB, 3264x1836, 20180423_231250.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3400730 forgot pic

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 00:26:30 2018 No.3400741
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>>3400715
I'm a noob but here's what I see.
I think you're trying to go for a selfie image but her arm isn't foreshortened so it just looks like she just is waving or saluting hitler.
Cutting the image off at her knees is a weird choice of framing, you shouldn't avoid drawing shit you're afraid of imo.
Pose is stiff.
Proportions are a bit off, and shading is weird.
I took a picture of my mannequin in the pose and perspective i'm assuming you're going for.
I hope this isn't just a meme to make people see the hand thing lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 02:09:19 2018 No.3400796 File: 173 KB, 567x559, 20180423_wip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Man it sucks to suck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 02:11:24 2018 No.3400797 >>3400486 you gotta read some beginner books, you are making rookie mistakes. for one squashing your drawing to fit it on the page instead of drawing it the appropriate size

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 03:08:58 2018 No.3400829

>>3400741
Not him, but I have one of those wooden art mannequin and I feel like I got cheated on. Did yours smell strongly of glue and glue gun when you first took it out of the box? My art mannequin feels cheap. The joints are only connected by a spring inside that stops the mannequin from doing any poses that aren't boring because the mannequin's joints cannot bend further. Is this normal or should I get a new one?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 03:12:41 2018 No.3400830 File: 569 KB, 1323x1500, 001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] option selects aside, I have no idea what I'm doing

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 03:21:58 2018 No.3400837 >>3400829 It's normal. My art mannequin was extremely limited when it came to actual posing. The glue smell is probably because it's new

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 03:43:19 2018 No.3400857 >>3400711 give up

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 04:46:10 2018 No.3400890 File: 2.00 MB, 1323x1500, good.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3400830 looks really good spend lots of time working on those hands and feet though

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 16:04:57 2018 No.3400941

>>3400741
I really need to work on foreshortening and depth as things get closer. All of your criticisms were accurate and spot on, you pinpointed a lot of what I felt was wrong but couldn't tack up to a specific point to improve. The okie dokie just happened because I honestly couldn't think of anything for that hand.
>>3400829
I also feel like I kinda got kekked with my wooden person

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 16:17:28 2018 No.3400956 >>3400603 Right arm (from viewers view) is too far. I assume you drew the face before finishing the head, 'cause it seems to look too far to the right as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 16:22:22 2018 No.3400960 >>3400689 Nothing that catches the eye. The head and the body don't line up. Make the lower line less curvy or turn up the head.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 16:44:43 2018 No.3401000 File: 13 KB, 243x278, art.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] rate my loomis prpgras

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 16:47:16 2018 No.3401005 >>3401000 in the negatives

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 16:51:41 2018 No.3401014 >>3401000 kawaii

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 16:52:07 2018 No.3401015 >>3401000 You- - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - \|starting line\|- - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - -\|level 1\|

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 16:53:17 2018 No.3401017 >>3400603 you drew this a year ago and want crit for it? REDRAW DRAW A NEW ONE!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 17:02:20 2018 No.3401031 >>3401017 wtf if he didn't say "i drew this a year ago" would you have said anything useful? probably not

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 17:05:33 2018 No.3401036 >>3401031 why would you ask crit for something you did a year ago. fucking retards.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 17:57:27 2018 No.3401068 Is there some sort of database for nude images for anatomy study? Or should I just go to /s/?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 17:59:04 2018 No.3401071 File: 75 KB, 999x999, IMG_1747 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why do these looks so awful?

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:00:05 2018 No.3401074

>>3401068
https://line-of-action.com/
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en/
http://www.quickposes.com/
http://senshistock.com/sketch/
http://www.artmodeltips.com/poses/poses/
http://www.posespace.com/posetool/
http://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo/videos

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:00:18 2018 No.3401075 >>3401074 Thanks man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:00:20 2018 No.3401076 >>3401068 >>>/hm/

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:01:30 2018 No.3401079 File: 20 KB, 500x499, 1482066000025.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3401076

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:03:14 2018 No.3401082 >>3401068 check out the artbook thread Beginner essentials -> References Miscellaneous -> Books and Articles -> Anatomy

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:09:22 2018 No.3401094
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I've been trying to work on my art by taking some examples from the beginner art books i've seen suggested here.

I tried to replicate a hand here by focusing on the negative space around the hand instead of just drawing the hand. Ways to improve?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:11:14 2018 No.3401099 File: 280 KB, 1370x1072, Cracked Egg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How is my shading?

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:48:05 2018 No.3401197

>>3401094
now that you've done that negative space shit, realize it is just a tool
your goal is to copy that hand accurately, and you should be using mirrors, negative space, polygons, angles, all of that to replicate it faithfully
now obviously you can see what's wrong with it, so go ahead and redo it, this time starting out with a few guiding lines to plan out where everything's going to be.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:49:16 2018 No.3401199 >>3401099 Looks fine, but your photo quality/lighting is trash.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:58:14 2018 No.3401212 >>3401197 Which books do I need to learn about mirrors, polygons, and angles?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:07:59 2018 No.3401222 >>3401212 The book called don't be a twat and practice until you perfect your copying skills.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:11:17 2018 No.3401227 File: 48 KB, 1000x1000, eye 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] started drawing not that long ago trying to start with eyes first why does this look bad

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:22:13 2018 No.3401238 File: 190 KB, 553x551, 20180423_wip_2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I tried working on this a little more. I don't know where to go from here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:45:41 2018 No.3401247 File: 3.87 MB, 5099x6599, Cracked Egg V2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3401199 Better?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 20:10:09 2018 No.3401269 So I've been looking at drawing and graphics tablet. How do people use drawing tablets? It seems awkward as fuck. What drawing/graphics tablet should it get? (I need another reason to not practice every day)

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 20:11:16 2018 No.3401271 >>3401269 Wacom. Just draw.

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 20:15:33 2018 No.3401276
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>>3401227
too much eye lid/spacing seems off maybe. No shading as. Eye brows start down on the brow and go up. It also look like the eye is backwards. Like the tear duct is on the wrong side.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 21:56:03 2018 No.3401342 File: 184 KB, 1067x369, Gay shit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] gayshit.png how's my form?

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:00:09 2018 No.3401346

>>3401212
>how do i use a mirror to check my drawing
lol
You also need to be able to check the angle of any two intersecting lines by sight alone. You need to be able to imagine big polygons over the reference and copy them to make an initial blueprint of where everything is supposed to go. Kind of like constellations, where four random connected stars make a horse or whatever.
Copying is kinda self-explanatory. Either your ability to visualize the lines you need to copy sucks, your ability to copy the lines suck, or you have mastered a very useful tool to build up your visual library and learn from more advanced art books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:04:13 2018 No.3401349 >>3401000 Finish it

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:04:54 2018 No.3401350 >>3401342 overall, the form looks absolutely great first model's left shoulder is weird, right forearm is weird the penis of first and second models don't seem to be drawn right either

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:08:20 2018 No.3401355 >>3401350 thanks for the crit. I'll be more careful when it comes to next batch! <3

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 00:03:46 2018 No.3401442
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I've been drawing for a while but never got serious about it until recently. I think i'm still symbol drawing so I started going into the books in the sticky and read a bit of the right side of the brain then switched over to bert dobson's book.
I went and did the crossed feet exercise thing and I think it turned out alright.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 00:36:22 2018 No.3401461 >>3401238 post ref bby

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>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 04:54:38 2018 No.3401658 >>3401442 Good start, now don't quit

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 07:16:29 2018 No.3401740 >>3401652 Nice Holocaust victim Franz.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:01:33 2018 No.3401767 File: 1.03 MB, 1080x776, IMG_20180425_075817.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tfw paid for a noob level art class at a local academy just to get memed into doing drawabox again

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:03:10 2018 No.3401771 >>3401767 hmm, maybe thats a good way to learn to draw? weird.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:07:06 2018 No.3401772 How to draw identical eyes? Every time I draw them, each one of them look different.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:08:00 2018 No.3401773 >>3401767 ISIS recruitment center

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:16:22 2018 No.3401778 >>3401771 You're a liar if you think drawafuck actually teaches you anything

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:19:12 2018 No.3401780 >>3401778 imo the big problem with drawabox is it stops short of teaching how to practically apply most of its principles

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:19:46 2018 No.3401781 >>3401767 those are terrible boxes, shows you didnt learn anything

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:22:18 2018 No.3401783 What does NGMI means?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:23:36 2018 No.3401785 ^ Not gonna make it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:24:00 2018 No.3401789 >>3401783 Not Gonna Make It

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:26:53 2018 No.3401794 >>3401789 >>3401785 Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:37:39 2018 No.3401804 >>3401781 thanks for the useful criticism mr crabs

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:44:37 2018 No.3401810

>>3401767
That's kind of the point of self-teaching. Instead of being totally new to this, you've already picked up on what are your weak areas and now you can get personalized help. But it seems you didn't bother going through any beginner tutorial or initial research or even read the class description.
If I were stuck in a "beginner's class", I would spend additional time constructing things out of my boxes and ask if my boxes are in perspective, basically a lot of outside work that I could handle because I'm not learning this shit for the first time. I could also get feedback on whether I'm still making mistakes with my boxes in the basic exercises.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 09:50:22 2018 No.3401859 >>3401342 dicks too big

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 09:57:23 2018 No.3401863 >>3401342 Please look at penis references.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 10:07:10 2018 No.3401871 >>3401859 >t. dicklet

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 10:22:09 2018 No.3401884 >>3401342 watch eromanga sensei

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 16:48:12 2018 No.3401916 File: 311 KB, 938x695, night2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Advice? I know I messed up the perspective.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 17:41:45 2018 No.3401987

>>3401916
Trees on the left look a lot less full than in the reference pic

Maybe put the red lights in the distance closer together and more toward the street light like the ref?

Also car looks like a lambo instead of whatever it is but i'm sure you realized

Good luck!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 17:48:25 2018 No.3401995 File: 175 KB, 725x1473, Ocelot Rough.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] rough lines before final drawing, then rendering, critique?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:19:11 2018 No.3402030 >>3401916 try to group areas of color/value instead of painting every color like it is in the picture. honestly looks a bit like a photo filter because theres so much variation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:20:58 2018 No.3402033 >>3400689 the insane gayness yes

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:35:31 2018 No.3402042
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I'm trying to learn how to do poses from imagination, i feel competent at basic figure drawing after grinding through the proko course but i can't seem to translate it into a made up pose.
Pic is my attempt at pure imagination with no reference, something about it is off. This isn't a finished drawing (obviously), just a mannequin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:56:34 2018 No.3402054 >>3401444 Good job. Try using simpler values next time. Start with one value for the midtones and one value for the shadows and keep a harder edge between them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 19:27:07 2018 No.3402075 What technique do you use to know how much your drawing is gonna fill. I just sorta wing it which sometimes leads to the drawing being too big or too small.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 19:31:06 2018 No.3402078 File: 214 KB, 1512x903, Dragon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've been drawing some dragons again lately here is one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 19:36:24 2018 No.3402082 File: 3.38 MB, 2844x2526, 20180425_173454.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3400262 the lips took like 10 tries, still looks like a brainless wojak. Stripes also look like ass but whatever

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 19:44:37 2018 No.3402090

>working through natural way to draw
>only successfully worked through 1 contour drawing so far
holy shit i really feel like i'm not doing these right

he says if you finish them before time is up then you've rushed through it and missed the point of the exercise

what else is there to do aside from draw out the contour in 10 minutes and then whatever details that lie inside the contour for another 5

what the fuck am i supposed to do with the other 15 minutes

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 19:47:26 2018 No.3402094 >>3401995 Looks stiff and unnatural as hell, like he's trapped in the paper. You seriously need to practice gesture drawing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 20:07:57 2018 No.3402114 File: 425 KB, 1077x1500, notarapper.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3402042 the pelvis is sticking too far out, making it look less like a fighting stance and more like the guy is clinging to his walking stick for support

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 20:09:08 2018 No.3402116 >>3402090 Measure the proportions, multiple times, and check the relation between spaces (negative space or shapes)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 20:15:46 2018 No.3402121 >>3402082 stop shading and focus on the lines you can trace over pictures on a separate sheet to check where the lines should be

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 20:16:41 2018 No.3402122 File: 369 KB, 575x779, polytest.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3401346 So for drawing polygons to help, is this a good one?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 20:17:46 2018 No.3402123 >>3401916 that poor car :_:

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 20:19:40 2018 No.3402124

>>3401859
>>3401863
I was looking at ref of twinks from /hm/. They are really close to that size lol. It's pretty impressive. They are also twinks, so they have low bf so their dicks look bigger.

>>3401884
I've heard of it but haven't set aside the time. Isn't that the one with the little sister that draws h-art?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 20:20:42 2018 No.3402128 >>3402082 and I'm assuming you're copying from reference

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 20:22:38 2018 No.3402131 >>3402124 there's a scene where she strips her brother naked to learn how to draw a penis ireba ii is better desu

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 20:32:39 2018 No.3402137

>>3400590
I know this isn't the answer you're looking for, but it honestly doesn't matter.

You ever hear that old Confucius quote? I think it was Confucius. "Better to ask a question and be a fool for five minutes than not ask one and remain a fool forever." Something like that. Point is: same concept here.

Better finish a turd and be a shit artist than to scrap a turd and be a shit artist forever. To scrap it and not learn what you were doing, not figure out what you were doing wrong.

Honestly, I see the tree, but I don't see the old man. Can't tell if it's supposed to be a face or if that knot in the tree is supposed to be a navel or whatever. But who knows. It's not even finished. Do what you must, and keep getting better.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:02:40 2018 No.3402174
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>>3402122
Red lines are proportions (draw a nice long line through and connect two important points, if it looks wrong, the guiding lines aren't spaced properly), yellow lines are polygons to block in the shapes to be drawn.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:29:36 2018 No.3402208 File: 445 KB, 927x1191, egg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:33:03 2018 No.3402212 So how long does it take to get through the first 7 lessons on drawabox? Not rushing or anything and don't want to screw this up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:36:12 2018 No.3402215 >>3402212 7 years

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:40:48 2018 No.3402220 File: 171 KB, 311x335, 1507598344159.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3402215 >one year for each lesson. I better get started then. Only 6 more years and 361 days to go.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:41:02 2018 No.3402221

>>3402212
>you never get through it according to this shitty MS Paint comic hurr durr
Rush through it, find other resources, read those, don't take any one thing as a bible. Do tons of different fundies instead of just grinding boxes.
Think about software development - is it really all about getting the foundation right, planning every little detail in pretty diagrams and 10 page documents before you move on to coding? No, you learn by diving in, trying things, breaking things, learning from the experience. (And unlike software development, people get angry at know-it-all crabs.)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:58:23 2018 No.3402235 >>3402212 You're going to screw up a lot. The first 1-3 years of art is you screwing up and learning how to do it correctly. You should never corner yourself in whatever you're approaching in art to "i don't want to screw this up."

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:02:06 2018 No.3402238 File: 443 KB, 600x600, doggo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] im i going in the right direction with this? i'm not using any specific references

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:06:52 2018 No.3402242 >>3402238 The fur looks more like veins and the water is bleh but maybe that was what you were going for. (If not, please use a reference to learn) I have zero experience with painting, so I can't make any other suggestions, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:16:18 2018 No.3402248 >>3402242 yeah the water and fur suck for now but do the colors, values, and drawing look right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:19:50 2018 No.3402250 >>3402128 correct

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:20:43 2018 No.3402251 >>3402235 Oh I get that part. I'm saying I don't want to rush into things and not learn anything/pick up bad habits along the way

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:25:00 2018 No.3402255 >>3402248 Can a dog's front legs curve inward like that? Also the hind leg and tail look glued on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:34:19 2018 No.3402265 >>3402255 >Can a dog's front legs curve inward like that? pic related. google images says they can i think the other thing is an issue of getting the colors/values right

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:34:58 2018 No.3402266 File: 733 KB, 1237x1024, multipleexamplesofdoggoswiththeirlegscurvedinbecausetheirfeetareclosetogether.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3402265 forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:43:16 2018 No.3402271 >>3402265 look closely at the feet

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:49:08 2018 No.3402273

>>3402251
Not fixing your mistakes or avoiding criticism will cause bad habits. There's nothing wrong with making mistakes, in fact, it's necessary to improve. And you'll see there's a real risk of spending too much time on the fundies and not enough on ambitious projects (actual drawing) if you lurk /ic/ for a bit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:50:52 2018 No.3402274 >>3402271 oh i see okay so the feet are drawn bad. anything else?

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 23:03:49 2018 No.3402285

>>3402274
From what I've seen of the stock photos, the back slopes down cleanly, which is why the back leg looks glued on. If that's a bathtub in the background, the lower white horizontal bar should be thicker than the higher bar due to perspective (unless you're doing that on purpose?). Again, sorry I can't say anything about color or value.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 23:11:12 2018 No.3402289 >>3402285 both good calls. so i will fix those three drawing mistakes and try to render this shit as best as possible. thanks

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 23:59:56 2018 No.3402310
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>>3402174
thank you for the explanation, I'm trying to figure this stuff out.

So I tried to take what I understood of your explanation and apply it to a random picture. Would this sort of be how it should turn out?

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 00:24:22 2018 No.3402324
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>>3402310
You realize that this is a tool to help you copy, right? There's no right or wrong way to do this, but you have to experiment for yourself to figure out what works best for you. So you should copy the hand you posted and upload the results here.
This picture in particular would be an example of where the polygons are drawn first. Because there are very prominent triangles (and rectangle) that take up the entire figure. This will help guide where everything should be drawn so you don't end up with too thin thighs or too small of a head or other proportion problems.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 00:40:24 2018 No.3402330 >>3402324 I do realize it's a guide, I'm just always stuck up on trying to do things the right way. I'm starting to get the concept better, so thanks for that picture. Should definitely try reproducing the hand first.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 02:05:17 2018 No.3402384 File: 141 KB, 600x1000, absolute garbage.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First drawing, please laugh at it. I know about the sticky and I'll be working on it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 02:14:49 2018 No.3402390 >>3402384 Could be worse.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 02:30:41 2018 No.3402411

>>3401099
looked absolutely heinous when viewed as thumbnail but I got really pleasantly surprised as I opened it large.

Try to take the picture of your drawing next to a window so it's lit by daylight. Or go to your bathroom where you have some white diffused light.

The reflected light on the bottom side of the egg is pretty strong. Also this would benefit from a lost transition to background from either "pointy" ends of the egg. So giving this a light background would look cool in my opinion.

Keep it up son.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 02:35:09 2018 No.3402417 >>3402078 I really like this. Got instagram or something?

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 02:43:45 2018 No.3402429
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Just finished working through keys to drawing and tried my first painting, I couldn’t make the teeth not look retarded so I just left it blocky. I fucked up the lower jaw I think, anywhere else?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 02:44:18 2018 No.3402430 File: 33 KB, 457x500, 879B5768-EA99-4EC1-8825-32C9F49A5D8B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3402429 Ref

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 02:49:59 2018 No.3402439

>>3402238
Stop thinking in local colors and start to compare. Why does the water have the white stripes? Is it suggesting motion as the directional flow of the water or are they telling us about some reflections of light on top of ripples? If it's a still pool it should only reflect the sky and the farthest wall of the pool. If it's doing ripples they should have round formations making light peaks and darks in between. I don't think this particular pool is rushing water with foam forming. Maybe add an small post or bar (fire hydrant would tell the story with a dog in front) on the farther side of pool so you can make it's reflection and tell us more about the state of the water with it. If it's just compressed mirror image, it's really still water. I'd suggest breaking it apart slightly. Use darker color with reflection than local color.

The sky needs to be gradient. Sky is darkest at the zenith and lightens to the horizon. Also you could warm up the horizon with very subtle wash of yellow ochre etc.

The grass should be made of many colors, greens, yellows and even purples to make that one apparent green. Not with an even wash of green with some soft blots of lighter green on top. There is no transmitted light here but if there are leaves of dandelions etc. they can reflect the light of the sky (light blue, very cool light gray)

I won't go to the dog because here are many more competent people to criticize animal drawings and fur rendering.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 02:59:41 2018 No.3402447 >>3401071 Lack of contrast

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 03:09:56 2018 No.3402456
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>>3402439
shit iwas hoping someone would over look the water. i guess ill have to rework it. maybe ill just add clouds (which im fuck horrid at) to the sky to give the water something to reflect

at the right you can see what im doing with the grass. does that look alright?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 03:31:48 2018 No.3402484 Are there any noteworthy places for guidance on capturing textures? None of the resources I use consistently go into the depth i'd like on textures

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:12:22 2018 No.3402529 >>3402456 look like the dog from that weird wall-e dog comic

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:26:06 2018 No.3402549 File: 488 KB, 800x450, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3402529 >wall-e dog comic you mean pic related? if so, fuck you

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:47:03 2018 No.3402561 >>3402529 >>3402549 kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:50:09 2018 No.3402565 File: 868 KB, 788x1343, headf 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] aaaaa

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 05:00:08 2018 No.3402572 >>3402565 cool hat

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 05:17:34 2018 No.3402585 any books specfically for learning proportions?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 05:24:54 2018 No.3402587 >>3402585 loomis figure drawing heads and hands

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 05:26:10 2018 No.3402588 File: 2.50 MB, 4960x3508, beach.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How did I do?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 07:01:49 2018 No.3402642 >>3400343 You need to move on anon. You're no longer a /beg/. Fly It's time to leave the nest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:07:26 2018 No.3402690 >>3402411 I uploaded another version that was scanned. >>3401247

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:17:41 2018 No.3402703 What are exercises I can do to practice stroke economy?

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:48:15 2018 No.3402720

>>3401916
Tell me /ic/, should a /beg/ who's drawing from reference even bother going here for critiques? How come nobody's ever mentioned about overlaying the reference on top of the drawing? (then removing it again, otherwise it would be tracing) Literally the most objective way of spotting mistakes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:59:04 2018 No.3402730 >>3402588 use reference

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 10:40:57 2018 No.3402806

>>3402720
There's no harm in posting a fundamental exercise in /beg/. Sometimes a reference will have a squinty face with lots of shading, or the picture will be very high contrast and the actual contours will be hidden. Also if you have a bunch of similar mistakes, you might be missing an important relationship between the lines/shapes that someone else could point out. You might also be studying the reference for anatomy/line thickness/value.
Remember that you don't need to be making one-to-one perfect copies before you start working on figure drawing. Just enough so that if you didn't have the reference, your copy wouldn't look off on its own.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 10:43:18 2018 No.3402808 >>3402806 *Just enough so that if you didn't show anyone the reference you used, your copy wouldn't look wrong or off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 12:11:30 2018 No.3402914 >>3402429 the shading on the eye sockets make the left socket look deeper than the right

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 12:33:06 2018 No.3402932 question, is there a way to organize copier paper into something more ergonomic? i use a folder but after a few weeks it gets packed and i end up having folders everywhere. also sketchbooks are pricey in comparison to copy paper

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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 13:22:51 2018 No.3402967 >>3402720 A critique does not consist solely of pointing out where the picture doesn't match the reference. That is, like, the least interesting form of critique.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 13:40:12 2018 No.3402982 >>3402932 those mail envelope things?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 14:21:50 2018 No.3403028 >>3401000 Blog?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:00:11 2018 No.3403067 File: 7 KB, 225x225, download.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3402982

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:01:13 2018 No.3403068 >>3402982 this thing >>3403067, i mean to say

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 16:15:01 2018 No.3403159 File: 68 KB, 376x503, human1a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 16:19:09 2018 No.3403165 File: 45 KB, 603x922, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3400262 Anyone got good tutorials on coloring etc? >coloring is bad

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 16:30:26 2018 No.3403174 >>3402212 You should have diminishing returns by the second lesson. Do something better like keys to drawing and learning anatomy/figure from some books. also robertson how to draw

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 16:56:31 2018 No.3403204 >>3402932 binders. manila folders, shredder

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 17:21:42 2018 No.3403225 >>3402565 on a totally unrelated note, where the hell did her right jug go

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 17:44:50 2018 No.3403248 File: 98 KB, 376x503, looksmean.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3403159 the meh spine kills the pose even when sitting, you have to find a line of action through the entire body

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 17:48:57 2018 No.3403252

I have a question about schedules, I've never been really all that good with schedules.
And I was wondering what is a good schedule for someone who want to be able to draw like Kim jung gi?
How does one master the cube like he has?

I'm new started drawing 4 months ago,and I've just started on betty Edwards and Scott Robertson. Once I finish those I was going to start on Hampton and practice figure drawing.
Is that good enough ?

I am able to draw 4-8 hours a day, sometimes 10-12on weekends.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:00:46 2018 No.3403258 >>3400262 How legit is this article https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/think-with-forms-not-lines-take-your-drawing-to-the-next-level--cms-24486

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:04:36 2018 No.3403261 >>3403258 100%.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:08:47 2018 No.3403267 File: 1.22 MB, 1000x773, ElfKing.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No bully pls

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:20:23 2018 No.3403281 >>3403267 A knife eared faggot.You just need to grind more time on basics.T

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 19:47:15 2018 No.3403371 File: 973 KB, 2058x1536, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any thoughts my fellow begs?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 19:49:41 2018 No.3403373 >>3403371 right of mask looks strangely thicker than the left the way the shadows are pointing make me think the light is coming from the mask's right, but the even symmetrical shading makes me think the light is coming from the top

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 21:58:12 2018 No.3403540 >>3403204 and hole punch every drawing? i would but i feel like it would be hard to find one strong enough to put holes in a lot of sheets of paper

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:08:40 2018 No.3403546 >>3403267 Your eyeball towards the side of the face (as it moves around the skull) is consistently wrong. That is, you can see too much of the eye. It should sink into the head.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:09:06 2018 No.3403547 >>3403540 It's the price you pay for getting cheap paper

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:36:09 2018 No.3403563 File: 130 KB, 938x938, JPEG_20170822_001934-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I get into a good mindset for drawing? Every time I try to draw I just get frustrated and upset.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:48:15 2018 No.3403572 File: 42 KB, 165x238, 1509323069033.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3403563 Heavy amounts of denial. I know it's the only thing that works for me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:00:08 2018 No.3403584 >>3403563 browse /beg/ to boost your spirits

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:02:52 2018 No.3403588 >>3401099 looks eggcellent. i'll kick myself out now.... seriously though that's quite nice

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:04:40 2018 No.3403590 >>3401342 all of them look quite good. work on those penises though

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:05:24 2018 No.3403591 >>3403563 bobby is that you

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:08:21 2018 No.3403594 File: 1.33 MB, 1076x1550, Screen Shot 2018-04-26 at 11.08.05 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:37:39 2018 No.3403621 >>3403591 yes. i haven't drawn anything in months tho.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:51:23 2018 No.3403631 >>3403621 its apparent

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:57:16 2018 No.3403634 File: 945 KB, 3024x3024, IMG_2274.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rate please.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 00:06:58 2018 No.3403641 >>3403631 ok? why would you say that? i mean, unless you're trying to be a worthless fucking crab

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 00:18:30 2018 No.3403643
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>>3403159
Legs don’t start at the center, they originate from the sides of the hips, which you left out. You’re trying to construct with geometric forms which is good, Do that with the arms too using boxes or cylinders, since you don’t know the muscles yet. Look into artbooks like hampton, vilppu, loomis, etc. If those are too boring, watch some of proko’s figure drawing videos, they’re pretty helpful.
>inb4 kangaroo
Not much to say other than study anatomy and proportions, and also perspective, which you were attempting here. I could give you more advice but those artbooks and videos should jumpstart you and be a lot more helpful. I’m also kinda /beg/ and I rushed the redline, sorry if it’s not that great.

>>3403594
are those two lines supposed to be clavicles?

>>3403594
bobby! I miss you guys from the cute girls serber. honestly I’m kind of tempted to make another one myself haha

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 00:34:00 2018 No.3403653 >>3403641 Wait... Are you that fat faggot that can’t comprehend values? So that’s who uses the crab meme.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 00:38:19 2018 No.3403656
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How do I stop my sketches from looking so damn messy. If I keep erasing and work on it for 40 minutes till I get the pose and anatomy right, then it'll look decent, but the first 5 minutes of all my sketches look messy as fuck. How do I fix this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 00:46:53 2018 No.3403668 >>3403656 Take Feng Zhu's advice and go draw some rocks, then old trees, then skulls. Focus on form and decisive linework.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 00:47:49 2018 No.3403669 File: 8 KB, 220x274, stick.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3403656 draw a stick figure in the pose you want beforehand

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 00:48:24 2018 No.3403670 >>3403653 post your work

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 00:51:42 2018 No.3403672

>>3403656
Use a pen and consciously stop yourself from going over lines too many times. Draw with as few lines as you can. It’ll probably look bad at first, but it’ll help in the long run. You can also try the drawabox lines exercises, they’re in lesson 1 I think.
>inb4 ISIS

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 00:56:11 2018 No.3403675 >>3401094 Right, not a bad start. Now actually pay attention to proportions and draw the creases as you see them.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 00:56:23 2018 No.3403676

>>3403669
I already do that but I always get the proportions wrong/ I change things about the pose when drawing the anatomy.
>>3403672
I'll draw with pen way more often from now on then. And funnily enough I just got done watching a drawabox video, I hope it'll improve my draftsmanship. Thanks!

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 01:00:11 2018 No.3403681

>>3403634
Those lines between the toes are disgusting. Draw what you actually see, not whatever the fuck those are. The left side of the foot (The lighter side) looks strange and the tendons don’t look right. Otherwise these are looking good, the shading conveys the shape and structure very well, especially on the darker side of the foot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 01:02:08 2018 No.3403682 >>3403656 Those calves are fucking huge. Compare them to the thighs. Please study perspective. There’s other replies it in this thread about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 01:10:32 2018 No.3403685 >>3403682 I'm studying perspective right now. I'll be sure to get better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 01:22:44 2018 No.3403697 >>3403656 Is that Rin Tohsaka you're drawing?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 01:41:19 2018 No.3403700 >>3403656 L I N E W E I G HT

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 01:43:53 2018 No.3403701 >>3403697 Yea it is. I gave up on finishing this sketch because it was too damn messy so that's why there's like no detail to make it look like her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 02:46:00 2018 No.3403729 >>3402982 >>3403067 no you dingus i meant manila folders like another anon said. can hold probably 100 pages no problem.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 02:49:02 2018 No.3403731 >>3403729 >folders durb meant envelope

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 02:56:24 2018 No.3403737

>>3400498

You should look a little better at the negatice spaces in your ref and then in your drawing. See how they are not very accurate? I'm not even going into how off your colour choices are, you are trying to run before you can even crawl. Take a step back and focus on your accuracy first, and after that maybe do a few renderings of primitive shapes. (Cones, cubes, cilindricals.) I fet wanting to do something cool like a beautiful painting of a dancer, but I think at this point you will only become frustrated because your skillset just isn't adequate yet, and I think that will dampen your spirit eventuallyand frustrate you into giving up altogether. Take baby steps.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 04:14:35 2018 No.3403781

>>3400262
ive hit a wall, ive been stuck on page 36 of fun with a pencil for a week now. its just so overwhelming and ive gotten so impatient, i just cannot focus. i didn't want to give up though so i figured i would go back and try some easier exercises just to feel for progress but i go back to the first exercise and it looks worse than when i fucking started. do i just drop this book for now and move onto perspective made easy or figure drawing for all its worth?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 04:37:15 2018 No.3403791 File: 198 KB, 612x1039, hex page 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3400262 how do I make this more detailed? What do I need to add?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 04:38:19 2018 No.3403792 >>3400890 I wish I could do torsos like that

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 04:39:21 2018 No.3403793 >>3401071 The eyes on the old woman are too far apart

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 06:52:23 2018 No.3403911 >>3403634 the lines on the toes are fucked. but i mostly wanted to say that shading is immense.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 08:38:38 2018 No.3403980 File: 138 KB, 435x763, 2018-04-27-143759_435x763_scrot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3403791 How does this roof work?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 08:57:32 2018 No.3403994 >>3403643 I don't even know what a clavicle is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:12:32 2018 No.3404012 File: 727 KB, 2577x1941, 0427180608-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i feel like the background is way too sloppy but oh well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:22:01 2018 No.3404022 >>3404012 dead-centered, symmetrical composition

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:26:07 2018 No.3404025 >>3404012 i have a weird feeling you'll make it anon. keep pushing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:48:08 2018 No.3404042 File: 206 KB, 1000x701, perspective.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3403791

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:49:40 2018 No.3404043 How do I do good face studies? As in how do I get the most of it and what am I looking for?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 10:41:53 2018 No.3404093 >>3404022 i dont get it. i messed that up a little but i like it that way >>3404025 thanks anon. i hope you make it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 11:02:26 2018 No.3404103 >>3404012 this is KOTOR, right? i like you for that fact alone, but yeah background could use some love

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 11:24:23 2018 No.3404128 File: 439 KB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20180406-160502.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I made muh first tower girl a bit ago. I suck at dynamic line art and don't know how to improve on it, anything else?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 11:31:42 2018 No.3404135 >>3404128 she needs to lay off the neck harness and get rid of the line underneath her mouth

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 11:54:32 2018 No.3404161 >>3404103 thanks. its kotor2. i may have another pass at the background and hope i dont ruin anything

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 12:09:05 2018 No.3404187 >>3404128 >dynamic line art Do explain.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 12:17:38 2018 No.3404194 >>3404187 When I start working on the line art I never like how thick and thin the lines turn out, so on this pic I just turned off the pen pressure so all the lines are the same size.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 12:39:36 2018 No.3404222
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>>3404194
a lot of people dont draw with pen pressure on size, but a lot also do. but right now youre just a baby. 0033 draws with both and they all look good. so stop blaming the tools

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 12:49:36 2018 No.3404233 >>3403594 why are the bones on her chest so blurry but everything else is jaggy as fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 13:10:26 2018 No.3404262 >>3404222 I never said it was the tools fault

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 13:11:21 2018 No.3404266 File: 258 KB, 960x820, 31318392_201566127316198_5482569364441923584_n.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 13:37:39 2018 No.3404292 >>3404266 most pressing problem: her left side of head suggests that her face is W I D E

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 13:40:33 2018 No.3404295 >>3404292 what if i move the eye closer to the edge

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 13:57:09 2018 No.3404308 >>3404295 just cover that part up with hair

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 14:05:08 2018 No.3404313 >>3404262 no but it was pretty obvious what you meant

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 14:24:02 2018 No.3404342 File: 276 KB, 944x800, 2018-04-27-202342_944x800_scrot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3404266

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 14:27:32 2018 No.3404347 >>3404342 her head is turned

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 14:28:40 2018 No.3404348 >>3404347 Clearly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 14:29:49 2018 No.3404350 >>3404348 So I did good? :D

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 14:33:07 2018 No.3404352 >>3404342 lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 16:04:13 2018 No.3404457 File: 614 KB, 1024x1366, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I’m studying the book of Michael Hampton By drawing the same pose and fallowing what I learned anthem checking what I did wrong Am I doing right? I’m am studying right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 16:05:25 2018 No.3404459 File: 973 KB, 1295x1726, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Same

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 16:12:11 2018 No.3404462 can someone post that /ic/ learning flow? i saw it in a /beg/ thread less than a month ago there were suggested books and courses and stuff for every fundimental

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 16:12:44 2018 No.3404463 >>3404194 One thing that helps with lining with pen pressure is keeping your hand as loose as possible, the grip on the pen gentle. Can depend, though, on your pen settings; have you tinkered with the "firm" and "soft" adjustments?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 16:26:01 2018 No.3404470 >>3404463 I'll have to check it out, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 16:45:06 2018 No.3404482 File: 1.84 MB, 1000x2041, Bean crit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wanted to know if I was missing something with the bean exercises so these are pages I did of it from the beginning, middle, and end of my session.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 16:46:00 2018 No.3404483 File: 1.73 MB, 1000x2010, Bean refs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3404482 and the pics I referenced. Each was done in a minute.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 16:47:02 2018 No.3404485 >>3404482 >>3404483 sloppy linework

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 16:47:23 2018 No.3404486 File: 111 KB, 1000x830, side view.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3403980 this is what I was trying to do

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 16:48:25 2018 No.3404490 >>3404042 thanks

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:09:59 2018 No.3404513 >>3404483 Where can I get the girl laying on the black car hehehe

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:12:53 2018 No.3404518 File: 64 KB, 542x917, sketch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How can I finish this? I always make a sketch I like but making it presentable is hard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:15:17 2018 No.3404523 >>3404518 Clean up the Lines and add colour. And push yourself to do this with most of your work. I tend to leave my artwork unfinished too, not a good habit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:23:04 2018 No.3404535 File: 310 KB, 1200x609, wface.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried to do value study. Fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:23:57 2018 No.3404537 >>3404535 Poor values.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:24:48 2018 No.3404539 >>3404535 >The eyes are not in the middle >the light goes too far over the nose Thats the only things i would see right now. Apart from the other stuff

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:27:02 2018 No.3404546 >>3404518 Redraw it in a less ape like technique.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:32:44 2018 No.3404551 >>3404485 Alright, working on that right now.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:38:31 2018 No.3404556
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Im what I'd call an advanced doodler, Ive learned to draw more with my eyes so I can look at things and kinda get close. I want to improve though!

Is it ok if I learn to draw with a mouse at first? Obviously I'd still draw traditionally but is mouse ok?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:43:42 2018 No.3404563 File: 482 KB, 1447x2046, 1503414587301.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:48:25 2018 No.3404567 >>3404556 not really, it's not gonna help you

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:49:34 2018 No.3404569 >>3404567 Why wouldn't it help me? I still struggle with things like poses and the drawing a not horribly distorted human body. Though I get that since its digital I can fuck up more and not really dedicate to something

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:52:19 2018 No.3404570 >>3402078 Come on bruh, you know you don't belong in /beg/

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 18:04:59 2018 No.3404587

>>3404569
Learning to draw digitally with a mouse will set you back quite a bit if you are looking to improve. That is not to say there aren't any excellent works produced with a mouse just, more often than not, the artist needed to draw with a mouse for years before they could even match the quality of their traditional work. It would be better to purchase a cheap tablet and pen instead. It will give you a more gentle learning curve and you will spend less time wasted trying to master wrangling the mouse and instead focus on more important things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 18:06:27 2018 No.3404590 >>3404587 Awesome, thank you for the reply!

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 18:08:18 2018 No.3404593

>>3400262
Does anyone know where I can download these books? Thanks in advance.
Scott Robertson - "How to Render"
Gregg Kreutz - "Problem Solving for Oil Painters: Recognizing What's Gone Wrong and How to Make it Right"
David Hornung - "Color, 2nd edition: A Workshop for Artists and Designers"

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 18:47:37 2018 No.3404649 >>3404593 check the artbook thread beginner essentials > miscellaneous > scott's book and gregg's book

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 18:53:54 2018 No.3404663 File: 3.73 MB, 1943x1265, qt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How does this look for a start?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 19:05:20 2018 No.3404677 >>3404663 That's racist.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 19:35:14 2018 No.3404718
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How to improve? I made both a traditional and a digital version, though the digital is just done over the traditional one, with a few changes.

It feels like digital art is a little harder. It feels harder to get a line straight, it always turns out a little more wiggly than I'd like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 19:37:47 2018 No.3404723 >>3404663 Blocking in planes would be way better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 19:42:05 2018 No.3404728 >>3404723 explain

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 20:03:18 2018 No.3404763 Sketched this in 10 mins. I want to draw without references, doing illustrations and such. Been drawing for maybe two months now and looking for any tips.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 20:05:48 2018 No.3404771 File: 478 KB, 3024x3024, 30825953_1655245777900052_893892035_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3404763 Forgot the picture, woops.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 20:20:33 2018 No.3404796 >>3404792

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 20:25:46 2018 No.3404799 File: 904 KB, 1996x2268, 1523075916970.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3404771 Learn perspective for fundamental shapes and construct out of those like this guy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 13:12:29 2018 No.3405732 >>3404763 drawing from reference is the first step to drawing without reference

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 19:53:36 2018 No.3406171 Is it okay if I use a reference or measure other art's proportions? I just am not skilled enough to do by my eyes alone

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