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Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:17:26 2018 No.3394569 [Reply] [Original]

how the fuck do you hold the pencil?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:44:00 2018 No.3394602 >>3394569 Second this. I have now 3 different positions how to hold the pen and i feel i succ with everyone

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:45:19 2018 No.3394603 >>3394569 >>3394602 What are you, retarded? You hold a pencil with your hand. Idiots.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:46:43 2018 No.3394604 >>3394569 these questions are getting more and more out of hand lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:47:41 2018 No.3394605 >>3394569 stick it in your butt OuO

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:55:04 2018 No.3394611

>>3394603
>>3394602
why is noone trying to understand me.
I hold it with my hand but how do you hold it?
Like when you write with your pencil you keep it between all 5 fingers. But you can also put it between you thumb and your index finger
/Ic/ you are mean!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:57:04 2018 No.3394614 >>3394611 >Like when you write with your pencil you keep it between all 5 fingers >writing like a toddler ..wha

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:59:44 2018 No.3394616 >>3394614 Are you kiddin me you crab? Just answer my question. Post picture how to hold the pen

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 10:04:37 2018 No.3394620 File: 57 KB, 600x750, 123187412984.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3394616 use this bro

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 10:05:24 2018 No.3394623 >>3394620 Did he tried to use his foot as a reference?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 10:06:12 2018 No.3394626 >>3394616 >>3394616 literally one gooogle away anon, please stop calling people crab. This word used to mean something now it's just a dumb insult on /ic/ to substitute cuck or soy

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 10:21:17 2018 No.3394637 wow you guys are fucking trash this place is a garbage DUMP simple yet very technical question gets answered and all the collective here can do is troll, fucking shaking my head off my shoulders

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 10:28:29 2018 No.3394648 >>3394569 Look up overhand grip.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 10:29:44 2018 No.3394649 can't go wrong with tripod drawing from the shoulder is more important than grip desu

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 12:27:47 2018 No.3394768 >>3394569 Like stabbing with a knife, mostly because i got so used at this since i was a child, it's a dumb habit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 12:30:30 2018 No.3394771 File: 51 KB, 960x540, How-to-draw-Anna-from-Disney%u2019s-Frozen-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 12:33:52 2018 No.3394776 >>3394771 is it bad that this grip is really comfortable for me

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 12:43:28 2018 No.3394791 >>3394776 very bad

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 12:48:28 2018 No.3394795 >>3394616 He's right man five finger death grip is not the best. I use three fingers at most, sometimes just two.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 12:57:51 2018 No.3394804 >>3394569 I like to hold it with my heart

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 13:12:52 2018 No.3394825 >>3394771 this drawing looks weird. Are the eyes misplaced?

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 16:27:48 2018 No.3395056

>>3394825
Everything about this picture is terrible.
>why do they have Hollywood studios watermarked paper? thats a theme park at WDW
>why are they holding the pencil like that?
>why are the eyes like that?
>did they actually have to sketch out an underdrawing for something that looks this bad?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 23:13:26 2018 No.3395442 >>3394771 >screams internally

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:01:26 2018 No.3395478 >How do I hold the pencil? The absolute state of /ic/

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 03:10:32 2018 No.3395599 >>3394569 I've noticed with art you've got to turn off your brain to prevent asking these stupid questions. You hold the pencil with your hand.

Anonymous Fri Apr 20 03:19:07 2018 No.3395608
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I'm actually interested in this thread

According to most people, the way I've held the pencil my entire life is considered incorrect, even though I've always been told that I have beautiful handwriting and I was always pretty good at art.

Pic related, my grip is apparently called "lateral tripod"

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 03:21:35 2018 No.3395611 Just draw lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 03:23:00 2018 No.3395614 File: 27 KB, 400x400, pencil hold.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3395608 I don't draw with my pencil held like any of those. Mine is top right as pictured.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 03:23:00 2018 No.3395615 File: 89 KB, 1024x988, 1509635442789.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3394771 i'm looking right at this grip and i still don't get it

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 03:25:40 2018 No.3395617 >>3395614 Grips for drawing =/= grips for writing Although I use lateral tripod for everything since I'm drawing on a tablet.

Anonymous Fri Apr 20 03:26:07 2018 No.3395618

>>3395608
I change how I hold a pencil according to what I'm doing- never in art school was there a moment where a teacher told an artist how to hold a pencil, as long as the artist was getting the results they wanted. I think this subject is like a lot of subjects in this forum, they're obsessed over and everyone thinks there are "rules" for everything, when in reality, it doesn't fucking matter. As long as it doesn't hurt your hand, who gives a fuck?
Example - loose sketching with more gesture, I might hold the pencil looser, and more towards the back of the pencil, so I can get bigger, more expressive arcs. For tight detail work, or cross hatching, more of a dynamic tripod. For charcoal or large drawings or shading, I'll hold the pencil sideways, so I can use the edge of the lead/charcoal, not the point. It's completely situational.

Don't obsess over details like this, nobody cares. However you have the most control and comfort, is all that matters. If you do a lateral quadropod, so what? What do your drawings look like, that's what matters. If it's holding you back, try another grip.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 03:27:47 2018 No.3395619 File: 372 KB, 726x805, across_the_palm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 03:28:03 2018 No.3395620 >>3395614 That's one way to hold it, I do similar for large drawings, and expressive, gestural work. But i wouldn't hold it like that for crosshatching, or tight detail work. To each their own, though - whatever gets it done is the right way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 03:29:43 2018 No.3395622 >>3394771 People with freakishly long fingers often do this grip - and this person does have really long fingers and a really long thumb. As long as they have enough control on the pencil and they're not hurting their hand, so what.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 03:45:42 2018 No.3395625 File: 23 KB, 281x249, what the fuck is this faggot doing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3394771 this face accurately describes my expression when I saw the grip even the fucking drawing looks distraught

Anonymous Sun Apr 22 00:35:33 2018 No.3398224
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>>3394569

drag and blend. constantly change pressure for quality shading and a dynamic life-like look about your drawing. don't think in lines and hatches, lines are just the boundaries that hold everything together. what'c inside is unpredictable and fluid. learn the rules but don't follow them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 00:46:52 2018 No.3398231 >>3395625 retarded dreamworks face lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 01:18:23 2018 No.3398254 >>3395608 dynamic quadrupod

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 01:33:10 2018 No.3398265 >>3394771 I can't imagine how crushed of a soul you have to have to have this job.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 23:19:38 2018 No.3400675 Far from the tip, you should never rest your hand in whatever you are drawing on. You draw with your arm suspended, It should work like the wheels of old locomotive trains.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 23:44:28 2018 No.3400700 The same way you hold a fork, for every need you find the way to hold it effectively. There are no rules as long as it serves you. Explore and make your own conclusions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 23 23:55:02 2018 No.3400709 >>3400675 It's so fucking awkward though

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 00:03:32 2018 No.3400721

>>3395618
Not that OP but to add to that - you need to disconnect the way you hold the pencil from the amount of pressure you apply. Even when using a standard writing grip you should be able to hold the pencil so lightly that someone can take it out of your hand, and likewise you need to learn which part of your hand/palm to use to apply the right amount of consistent pressure. This is specific to each artist obviously.

It takes time, but it's worth it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 00:54:32 2018 No.3400758 >>3398224 This image is what happens when you only draw what you see and don’t construct

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 01:03:53 2018 No.3400764 >>3395619 How am I supposed this kind of grip with pens or mechanical pencils

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 02:25:28 2018 No.3400804 File: 24 KB, 622x528, alanleedrawing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3394569 Always from the business end anon. Always from the business end.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 04:20:37 2018 No.3400877 >>3394776 Means ur gay tbhf

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 04:24:12 2018 No.3400878 haha dude i just got discord

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 04:27:55 2018 No.3400879 >he isn't holding it telekinetically

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 09:40:09 2018 No.3402754
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>>3400758

Interesting analysis. I drew that myself and I'm interested to here how I could improve?

I don't really use construction and since I was a kid I would just start at a point and expand with detail. Old habits die had I guess

>>	CDC Thu Apr 26 09:43:12 2018 No.3402757 >>3394771 >>3394825 >>3395442 >>3395615 >>3394776 >>3395622 >>3395625 >>3398265 I'm dyinggg lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 09:45:15 2018 No.3402758 >>3402757 hey man you should stop namefagging before you really start getting harassment for it.

>>	CDC Thu Apr 26 09:54:46 2018 No.3402765 >>3402758 idc

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