JUST DRAW WEEK 2

[Anonymous No.3373033]

It's time lads. Figured it'd be helpful for some people on here to do some more structured and focused studying since it's very easy to get lost/confused with what to draw or study. This is based off the new FZD video so watch that here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLqWX7onVmU [Embed] to understand what we're gonna be doing. This is the second thread so do some studies of trees and post em itt. The goal should be at least 5-6 pages with 10 sketches on each page (each sketch should take 20-30 minutes) by the end of the week (4/10/18). Obviously do as much as you can and it's fine if you can't meet the goal but just keep it in mind. Post in the thread as you work. Also please try to ask questions, crit, etc, the last thread ended up being people dumping their work with minimal discussion. If people are still drawing then we'll move on to animal bones and skulls next week.

HERE ARE SOME FREE TREE REFERENCES

>There's some decent stuff on here, the other sections like "Forest" and "Autumn" also have trees on there so give em a look
http://freebigpictures.com/tree-pictures/
>shit load a trees on here
http://freelargephotos.com/?subject=Trees&start=1&maxnum=50
>handful of decent tree pics by this guy
https://500px.com/thetreephotographer

Now draw some trees lads!

[Anonymous No.3373043]

>>3373033
How'd you guys do on the last one? I only ended up doing 2 full pages but I think it helped quite a bit. I couldn't draw rocks from imagination at all before and now I can draw some pretty decent looking ones without ref. Any changes you plan on implementing moving forward?

[Anonymous No.3373100]

>>3373043
For the whole week? Dude I thought you had to draw 2+ pages per day. lol
2 pages a week is too little

[Anonymous No.3373104]

>>3373100
Yeah I ended up drawing other shit but I got too bored with rocks. 10 hours of rocks was too much for me.

[Anonymous No.3373108]

>>3373033

[Anonymous No.3373109]

>>3373100
3 pages a day would be impossible. It's 10 sketches per page and 30 minutes per sketch so that'd be like 15 hours a day brah.

[Anonymous No.3373150]

>>3373108
noice work

[Anonymous No.3373173]

New feng video

[Anonymous No.3373390]

[Anonymous No.3373391]

>>3373390

[Anonymous No.3373392]

>>3373391

[Anonymous No.3373394]

>>3373392

[Anonymous No.3373396]

>>3373394

[Anonymous No.3373397]

>>3373396

[Anonymous No.3373398]

>>3373033
>free tree references
just go outside you mongs

[Anonymous No.3373399]

Great thread. I am doing the week drawing thing too, but I am at rocks at the moment. Thank you for linking resources for pictures in the OP, they are very helpful.

[Anonymous No.3373431]

>>3373398
>going outside
Are you trying to get robbed by the gains goblin?

[Anonymous No.3373440]

>>3373109
>15 hrs a day is too much
NGMI

[Anonymous No.3373871]

[Anonymous No.3374172]

[Anonymous No.3374206]

I know you guys are just taking tips from Feng's video but when will you start drawing humans?

[Anonymous No.3374216]

>>3373398
It's 20 degrees lol

[Anonymous No.3374223]

>>3374206
I don't only do Feng's stuff, I draw and study from other books too. But Feng recommends increasing the difficulty of the subjects you are drawing weekly anyway

[Anonymous No.3374252]

>>3374206
Humans are the first thing I drew and I still draw them.

[Anonymous No.3374636]

I'm still on rock week because I got to the party a bit late, but I'll be joining in on the trees over the weekend.

First time using pen and ink and I had issues with some turning out a little... Cartooney?

[Anonymous No.3374766]

What was the name of that manga where the sensei kept repeating just draw?

[Anonymous No.3374781]

I'm pleased so far. It's like he says in the video though, with this stuff if you get 60-70% right, then it will still probably look fine. If I tried copying faces right now they'd most likely look unrecognizable.

[Anonymous No.3374821]

>>3374636
Honestly who cares if its cartooney. This looks bomb

[Anonymous No.3374823]

>>3374781
slow and steady buddy

[Anonymous No.3375046]

>>3373399
No problem, glad you found them helpful.

[Anonymous No.3375207]

just got to this thread. Some people arent doing trees. Whys that?The thing says trees.

[Anonymous No.3375214]

>>3375207

just draw

Anyway the videos this were based on recommended plenty of things to draw, the week thing just adds a little structure for those who want it.

[Anonymous No.3375216]

>>3373398

nigga it's cold out.

[Anonymous No.3375238]

>>3375207

Week one started with rocks and rock formations, I got there late so I'm keeping week one going until I've done 7 days of rock drawings... Not sure about the rhino or figure drawing guys. Feels like they should be in the draw thread.

[Anonymous No.3375302]

>>3375238
so ill kill two birds by doing trees with rocks around them.

[Anonymous No.3375316]

>>3375302

That would just about do it

[Anonymous No.3375385]

Practicing trees. Trying to widen my visual library 1/3

[Anonymous No.3375388]

2/3

[Anonymous No.3375391]

3/3
Critiques welcome

[Anonymous No.3375480]

>>3373871

[Anonymous No.3375486]

>>3375480

I have to admit those are pretty damn good. Well done.

[Anonymous No.3375528]

>>3375486
Thanks, I feel like these studies have helped me a lot.

[Anonymous No.3375620]

>>3375528

Same here, at least it's got me drawing every day. I took a couple years off for work but getting back into it. Turning out way better than I thought

[Anonymous No.3375622]

>>3374636
That's because it looks cel shaded.

[Anonymous No.3375673]

>>3375622

I have difficulty building up layers in the 20-30 minute time frame especially when waiting for each layer to dry and wet-on-wet doesn't produce the crisper lines you need to emphasise the edges on rocky surfaces.

Any advice or should I go back to pencil and just build up layers that way?

[Anonymous No.3375715]

meh...

[Anonymous No.3375893]

Left is probably the most "realistic" one while the one on the right is highly abstract.

[Anonymous No.3375904]

>>3375893
Dave?

[Anonymous No.3375933]

[Anonymous No.3375936]

>>3375904
Who is Dave?

[Anonymous No.3375963]

Damn, didnt know these threads were because of that video. I plan on doing this myself but Gonna have to start with rocks first. Got a couple of Signo DX .38 pens and some smooth copier paper. Questions:

I have standard size printer paper, is it a good idea to fit 10 sketches on each page?

I'm also working on figure drawing, so will this help with that somehow?

[Anonymous No.3376059]

>>3375963

It will help with things like observation, rendering of lines and tonal values, spacial relationships etc. All fundamental parts of drawing which transfer regardless of the subject. While it won't be contributing to your understanding of anatomy it will help you get better at drawing in general which is good for drawing other subjects.

[Anonymous No.3376065]

>>3375622
>>3375673
>>3375963
>>3376059

Holy shit actual art discussion on /ic/

Is this the fucking twilight zone?

[Anonymous No.3376094]

>>3373033
hate to be That Guy but how does he get the brush to be so small without it turning into cross-hairs? im assuming he's using photoshop

[Anonymous No.3376108]

[Anonymous No.3376270]

would be keen for some feedback on this. had a lot of fun with the texture, been focusing on practicing my tone recently

[Anonymous No.3376383]

>>3376059
Alright but trying to fit 10 drawings for this along side figure drawing is going to be rough cause I only have so many hours free everyday.

[Anonymous No.3376560]

>>3376383
Also first one of many. Dont think I can do 10 a day, but plan on using these drawings as a way to practice using ink along side this pen and ink books I bought. Hopefully this will make things clearer on what to work on.

[Anonymous No.3376932]

>>3376383
>>3376560
Well, thats fine, its mostly to get people to keep drawing everyday. It starts with rocks and trees because you can still make it look good and you dont have to worry about it being accurate. Things like symmetry, anatomy or perspective aren't really applicable when drawing rocks or trees. Thats why we are starting with those things, because its relativeoy easier compared to figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.3376965]

Is it okay to post rocks in the tree thread?

[Anonymous No.3377051]

>>3375480

[Anonymous No.3377144]

>>3374766
Kakukaku Shikajika by Higashimura Akiko

[Anonymous No.3377434]

>>3376965
As long as your drawing, I dont think its that big of a deal. Its mainly a guide so people dont get frustrated. It slowly increases subject difficulty so people are used to drawing and become more confident.

I meant to draw more trees but uhh... here is a cat?

>>3375207

[Anonymous No.3377435]

>>3377434
and a tank thingy.

[Anonymous No.3377437]

>>3377435
The tree drawing with rocks isnt finished yet. But I dont want this thread to die like the sketchbook thread. Heres some skulls.

[Anonymous No.3377657]

>>3375385
>>3375388
>>3375391
I don't think drawing these sorts of thick and very smooth trunks are the best way to build your visual library towards trees. Break them down as best as you can and categorize the things that makes one tree different from another. I see you payed some attention to different bark textures but some texture swatches would go a long way here, as well as things like their branch hierarchy, the kinds of leaves they have, are parts of the roots visible above or below ground, and not to forget the tree's overall silhouette which is very important (just think about how iconic palm trees and pine tree's silhouettes are) etc. I find visual library is well built through that sort of very analytical and deconstructive kind of visual note taking.

As for overall presentation, try to avoid smoothness a bit more, and don't outline the entire thing. Graphically I think it'd be much more pleasing just to bold and white-line one side of the subject. And don't forget to gradate texture to give a greater sense of depth, realism and focus. Try not to make the overall outline too thick either because that will also simplify it and in turn make the tree look less textured, and thus a bit untreelike.

Overall I think your work is very good I just think it's a bit cartoonish which doesn't always do subjects that are as complex and textured as trees justice, and could be an even larger problem with things whose textures are more subtle (like bone)

[Anonymous No.3377872]

I'm starting from the beginning with rocks. No need for critique considering how new I am to this, just posting for personal motivation's sake.

[Anonymous No.3377964]

this is my first one

is my brush too small? if you zoom in on my lines it looks weird.

[Anonymous No.3378071]

>>3377437
okay, i did some trees and rocks.

[Anonymous No.3378074]

>>3378071
but really, their like landscapes although I got pretty lazy with the leaves.

[Anonymous No.3378079]

>>3377872
listening to feng zhu podcasts, are we? ;)

[Anonymous No.3378080]

>>3377872
>>3377964
dont sweat it, your suppose to buld up confidense by drawing things where its no big deal if you mess something up. If we started with faces, people will just get fristrated with how goofy it looks and they will stop drawing.

[Anonymous No.3378132]

JUST DRWAaaa...

[Anonymous No.3378144]

>>3378080
>confidense
>fristrated
Disregarding this advice.

[Anonymous No.3378483]

>>3377657
Thanks Anon, appreciate your feedback, will keep these in mind for the next time

[Anonymous No.3378490]

>>3377051

[Anonymous No.3378563]

>>3376560
Some more done. I'm having some enjoyment at least, though any critique or advice would be cool.

[Anonymous No.3378825]

just doodling without ref. branches are hard to do, always get that broken look

[Anonymous No.3378836]

I'm finding drawing rocks to be way harder than drawing humans or manmade goods, and I think it's because I'm not sure how to convey texture with lines and no rendering. Is anyone else experiencing the same difficulty, and if you got over it, did you just keep drawing till it clicked?

[Anonymous No.3378872]

>>3378836
Rocks are hard to try an get accurate, but they also look alright even when you fuck up. It makes me anxious.

[Anonymous No.3378965]

>>3378836
The way I've gone about it is loose and sparse application of cross contour lines with respect to perspective and the object's orientation. I found it's more important trying to get a feel for the shape of the object instead of its texture, though you can work both in.
>>3371115

[Anonymous No.3378975]

>>3378836

Draw other people's drawings of rocks and learn how they design or abstract things. Try to copy from good people. If you're not sure how to approach a subject, sometimes you just have to learn from other artists. Gotta balance your life drawing with master studies.

[Anonymous No.3379509]

>>3378074

[Anonymous No.3379777]

Just did this from life, small lake with trees

[Anonymous No.3379795]

>>3376094
You can turn off the cross hairs.

[Anonymous No.3379962]

>>3378490

[Anonymous No.3379984]

No one is giving the turtles some love

[Anonymous No.3380062]

>>3379984
We're still on trees anon. But I'm excited to get to animals soon. Bones next week should be fun also.
Trees are kind of annoying, but I don't want to skimp on them.

[Anonymous No.3380164]

How long am I supposed to work on these anyways? Ive been drawing the rocks at 15 minutes each but can it be 10 instead? Was it supposed to be 20? Just want to make sure since I do wanna try to do 10 a day.

[Anonymous No.3380177]

>>3380164
IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY YOU DO

WHAT MATTERS IS THAT YOU DO SHIT

YOU'RE ALREADY DOING GREAT ANON

[Anonymous No.3380319]

>>3378825
Did a little more on this

>>3379777
this is also me (imagination vs life, might be interesting to see)

[Anonymous No.3380344]

>>3378080
>>3378144
i think lad was trying to sound like feng, lol

[Anonymous No.3380614]

>>3377144

I did not sign up for these feels

[Anonymous No.3381170]

>>3380177
Oh garsh, guess I better keep at it. At least 1 hour a day, possibly more when possible. Won't move onto the next subject till 60 are done.

[Anonymous No.3381563]

>>3379962

[Anonymous No.3382314]

>>3380319
>>3381170
>>3381563
Good job guys. New thread is up.

>>3382313

[Anonymous No.3384153]

>>3381563
Teach me fampai?

[Anonymous No.3385439]

>>3376270
it seems you have a heavy hand. i'm quoting: values make the painting read

[Anonymous No.3385445]

>>3373033
did a rock, trying to figure out values