/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3363166]

Why doesn't /ic/ like to talk about Pre-Raphaelite art? Or anything that isnt web comic faggotry?

[Anonymous No.3363175]

>>3363166
It comes up, but the anime crowd is winning these days, they've managed to drive a lot of people that are into traditional art away. Besides, they don't know anything about it, or the history, or the techniques, so they just attack it anyway. I mean, thuse little turds attack and insult Michelangelo, because he didn't carve women with 60DDD boobs and anime eyes.

[Anonymous No.3363178]

>>3363166
>>3363175
Why doesn't /ic/ ever just make a thread about the topic they feel is not represented enough? Why instead always make it some passive aggressive whining about random, unrelated stuff like webcomics or anime?

>Hey /ic/, let's talk about Pre-Raphaelite art, shall we?
This increases the discussion of Pre-Raphaelite art on /ic/.

>Hey /ic/, why are you all such stoopid faggots and prefer WEBCOMICS over Pre-Raphaelite art?
This does nothing but shit up the board and actually makes even people who would have liked to discuss Pre-Raphaelite art take a contrarian stance just to spite pathetic victim playing faggots like yourself.

[Anonymous No.3363182]

>>3363178
A perfect example of what I'm talking about. This isn't an art forum, it's just another 4chan troll mud pit.

[Anonymous No.3363184]

>>3363182
fuck off

[Anonymous No.3363185]

>>3363166
I doubt you even understand the pre-raphaelites, it's just more pretty girl to you, anime in disguise.

[Anonymous No.3363191]

>>3363178
It doesnt get attention otherwise and you know that.

[Anonymous No.3363192]

>>3363185
Pretty much yeah, but too be fair like 90% of the brotherhoods painting were of pretty girls.

[Anonymous No.3363210]

>>3363192
but the pretty girls are almost incidental, they're just there because the prb were literally bros.

[Anonymous No.3363217]

>>3363210
does that mean they slept with the hookers then painted them?

[Anonymous No.3363229]

>>3363217
i think they mainly painted quite upstanding ladies.. they stayed close to life, that's part of their manifesto, so their models are still known and easily recognised, most of them were artists in their own right as far as i recall.

[Anonymous No.3363234]

>>3363229
right, theyre not whore if theyre poets.

[Anonymous No.3363250]

>>3363234
i sense you may have a problem with pretty women

they painted girls
>whores
no artists and poets
>whores who write poems
well elizabeth siddal from ophelia for example was a poet and a painter but her day job was as a milliner
>whore who makes hats

[Anonymous No.3363252]

>>3363234
>Christina Rossetti: the Female Queer Virgin
>If the Oxford Movement provided a means for opening queer religious spaces through the elevation of identities based on religious chastity, later Victorian writers demonstrate the impact and evolution of that theology. Purity is eroticized in the works of Christina Rossetti and Gerard Manley Hopkins. The sacred space of virginity became a means for glorification of the self as writer, queer in her/his separation from society. In the literature and life of Christina Rossetti, we find a woman who entered Victorian Anglo-Catholic discourse as a champion of female virginity. Although the feminist component of such a position cannot be denied, a justification of the queer single life is a crucial part of Rossetti’s argument. At a time when other Victorian Christian women praised motherhood, Christina Rossetti maintained that the solitary life in devotion was the better portion.

[Anonymous No.3363254]

>>3363252
The biggest whore yet.

[Anonymous No.3363262]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/entertainment/books/1982/01/17/christina-rossetti-and-her-goblins/040fab52-0ea2-4d74-bd59-2d313929cb1f/?utm_term=.a6b8f261f2d3

[Anonymous No.3363277]

>>3363262
are you allowed to pick a historical waifu? sensitive neet virgin poet, yes pls

[Anonymous No.3363278]

>>3363277
>virgin

[Anonymous No.3363282]

>Like Emily Dickinson, spinster-poet on the other side of the Atlantic, Christina Rossetti liked to imagine what would happen at the moment of death and after, as though to prove that there was a difference between her minimalist life and death. She was not afraid of death-- quite otherwise. It seemed a passageway to a better, brighter, and more vivid world.
Let's exhume her.

[Anonymous No.3363288]

>>3363282
i think it also says in that article that her brother did actually exhume his wife to get back the poems he wrote about her and dramatically buried with her.

[Anonymous No.3363290]

>>3363282
shut up about the slut.

[Anonymous No.3363648]

>>3363217
Nah they just seduced married women.

[Anonymous No.3363653]

>>3363210
>but the pretty girls are almost incidental
I doubt that, from what I've read they were as obsessed with girls as /ic/ is. However with the PRB it was more of a 'feminine beauty' thing, while on here it's just lust and cuteness

[Anonymous No.3363656]

>>3363252
>muh feminism, faggotry, and childlessness
So progressive. Truly ahead of her time.

[Anonymous No.3363859]

>>3363277
>remarried
>painted by several top rockstar tier artists of the period
>celebrity bohemian
>virgin

Sorry anon

[Anonymous No.3363864]

>>3363175
Rick and Morty on hiatus is taking a toll on you, ain't it?

[Anonymous No.3363886]

How many long curly-haired medieval princess looking bitches can you paint? I get that every period/movement had certain trends of idealization but I feel like the pre raphaelites were creatively stunted.

[Anonymous No.3363952]

>>3363886
Well you see, Anon, back in medieval times, Pre-Raphael times - if you will - there were still a lot of witches around, and they had a habit of preying on artists, making the artists paint portraits of them over and over until their life gave out. But then the Ninja Turtles came around and set them ablaze with the glory of Christ. And then artists were free to put toilets in museums.

t. art historian

[Anonymous No.3363962]

>>3363886
Thanks for your opinion on pre-Raphael art.

[Anonymous No.3363964]

>>3363175
caution. this is what may happen when you discuss historic paintings on /ic/

[Anonymous No.3363975]

>Europe around 1700
>pigments were fucking expensive, rare, hard to find
>painting was well respected, culturally based, a proper job

>2018
>illustration teenie faggot with no art history knowledge goes into store and buys oil paints with moms money
>"meh it's dirty and messy and hard!"
>back to grinding fundies and loli masturbation
>goes online, sees people discussing old paintings
>"meh you can do that easily nowadays!
>"animu is so much more advanced! anyone can buy paints and paint, it's literally easy!"
>"why even paint?? buy a bamboo!"

[Anonymous No.3364011]

@3363975
thanks for always making every thread you show in unbearable to read

[Anonymous No.3364017]

@>>3364011
@(You)

[Anonymous No.3364158]

>>3363656
She wasn't homosexual, that is "progressive" spin.

>>3363859
She was never married. She didn't go to an American high school and take Suck And F*ck 101. There was no pill in the Victorian Age, believe it or not.

[Anonymous No.3364347]

But they were just the /ic/ of their day. Faggits drawing cute girls and complaining about classical art.

[Anonymous No.3364442]

>>3363964
> falling for obvious troll posts
You guys are retarded.

[Anonymous No.3364479]

>>3363166
Cause it's dumb u stupid ass god damn do we have respect for the mastas? Yeh but that shit is so fuckin outdated u gotta get with the times and evolve with the rest of society fuckin punk ass bitch and have a little fuckin fun with it too that's the point ur supposed to have fucking FUN DOIN IT. If Leonardo was reborn in our world he's probably be like Scott Robertson Alan watts Jimi Hendrix and bill gates combined and we'd probably have some cooler video games.but that ain't real so fuckin stop being so obsessed with fucking old ass shit god damn u just trying to sound smart but if u were actually smart you'd be more focus on what's goin on right now

[Anonymous No.3364488]

Why were the pre-raphaelites so obsessed with redheads?

[Anonymous No.3364491]

>>3364488
Contrast mainly, Arthur Hughes went through a blonde phase if I recall.

[Anonymous No.3364494]

>>3364491
Almost all paintings I see of this movement are with redheads though.

[Anonymous No.3364495]

>>3364494
pre raph bros had good taste

[Anonymous No.3364496]

>>3364494
Well who knows, maybe it was just another way of being contrarian since everyone had pitch black hair like Victoria had.

[Anonymous No.3364499]

>>3364496
I was just curious and read the wikipedia entry and even a couple of other articles and they don't seem to answer this.

[Anonymous No.3364501]

>>3364499
>“I think we got to know Rossetti pretty well … I had a good deal of talk with him, always excepting the times when ladies with beautiful hair came in … It did not signify what we were talking about or how agreeable I was; if a particular kind of reddish brown, crepe wavy hair came in, he was away in a moment struggling for an introduction to the owner of said head of hair. He is not as mad as a March hare, but hair-mad.” - Elizabeth Gaskell
A quick image search found that Rossetti, got a hard pee pee from red hair.

[Anonymous No.3364516]

As much as I like Pre-raphaelites, it's really not possible to paint nowadays like that - they used difficult medium based on eggs, so just imagine the small when paintings were made. Also you need to be 100% autistic and I mean it in bad way.

/ic/ just isn't autistic enough.

[Anonymous No.3364522]

>>3364516
>they used difficult medium based on eggs
I don't know much about this movement but my guess is that they used an egg based medium to try to recreate painting before the use of oil in the renaissance. But it looks like artists like Waterhouse still used Oil>>3364488 which looks beautiful, whereas the ones that used an egg based medium tend to have a more water color like and flat look.

[Anonymous No.3366334]

>>3363166
I don't know anything about art, but paintings by Pre-Raphaelite's seem pretty dry and flat like a really detailed illustration from a story book or like the product of those apps that turn photographs into paintings. Again, I don't know shit. My favorite artist, Vonn Stropp is compared to the Pre-Raphaelites a lot, so maybe there is something I am missing.

[Anonymous No.3366337]

>>3364479
huh. You have a point

[Anonymous No.3366355]

>>3363166
Why do obnoxious cucks like you have to make accusatory bait threads like this, rather than simply making a thread about Pre-Raphaelite art?

[Anonymous No.3366382]

>>3364522
it's called egg tempera don't talk like it's some crazy thing lol. you can get egg tempera now, it's not rare or anything you buy it in tubes like anything else, and it's easy to make too and there is a modern equivalent which also happens to be the cheapest paint there is.

[Anonymous No.3367775]

>>3363191
thats why he said just make a fucking thread about it

[Anonymous No.3367790]

Becaus its old and boring lmao

[Anonymous No.3368423]

>>3364516
A few of them painted in watercolour.
Most in oil.
Most of their paintings are HUGe, what are you on about?

[Anonymous No.3368425]

>>3368423
he meant the smell of them