/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.3354882]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>3352068

[Anonymous No.3354883]

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stan Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

[Anonymous No.3354901]

>>3354883
Is this the Atkins Essentials of /beg/?

[Anonymous No.3354904]

Is it considered reckless if I'm trying to familiarize with drawing at an extremely rapid pace? I'm talking trying to pare down my drawing speed to seconds at times. I want to get comfortable drawing and not feel frozen with fear that I can do a good drawing that takes like 3 hours to make

[Anonymous No.3354906]

>>3354904
you have to do both, and 3 hours is not a long time.

[Anonymous No.3354908]

>>3354906
Maybe so, but I just feel so useless trying to get the jaw line right for like hours. It's frustrating right now.

[Anonymous No.3354912]

>>3354904
That sounds bizarre and ineffective, especially for a beginner. Speed will come over time as you get more familiar and confident, I think you have more important things to focus on right now in your work. Some speed gesture stuff is pretty normal though

[Anonymous No.3354914]

>>3354901
no because no plan works for everybody (like diets)

[Anonymous No.3354918]

dunno if this should be in the stylization thread, but how do you find your style?
I've been drawing for some time and while I'm great at copying things I see, when it comes to creating from scratch in a style I feel comfortable just doodling, it comes out in a way I feel is generic
here's an example from a couple years ago
while I don't think it's bad I can't help but feel anyone could've done it given simple prompts

[Anonymous No.3354927]

>>3354912
>>3354904
>I'm talking trying to pare down my drawing speed to seconds at times.
Maybe anon is talking about 'try to draw this model in 30 seconds' type exercises? Those are great for learning gesture, flow, and getting in the habit of putting things down as shapes. Sure, do those (though not JUST those.)

If you just mean getting your whole drawing process down to super rapid then that's weird, don't do that.

[Anonymous No.3354932]

I started today, just working on some fundamentals. Just getting the circles down pat for the moment, I only spent an hour on it today but it'll add up when I do it everyday.

[Anonymous No.3354933]

>>3354927
Yeah, I'm just trying to do small exercises for basic stuff like body shape stick figures and basic eye styles. I'm guessing that kind of speed exercise won't work drawing hands

[Anonymous No.3354935]

If I paint something from reference (like pic related), can I then put it on my Deviantart or will it be considered stealing? Will I have to disclose that it's from reference? I'd rather not, I like to upload with just single word descriptions.

[Anonymous No.3354938]

>>3354935
its fine. it's good form to say where you got the reference, but not required. remember we're all in this together, the model and the photographer need views/money too.

[Anonymous No.3354939]

Hi critique my black lady plz. How do I render dark skin I literally can't see the values when I squint my eyes. Also didn't really have time to get rid of the outlines :/
My biggest issue now is capturing proportions from life so pointers on the overall proportions would be greatly appreciated

[Anonymous No.3354944]

Why is it that even though I know and see what I'm drawing, It leads to me not drawing it right?

[Anonymous No.3354947]

>>3354938
Alright thanks. Though I don't really want to support some bint taking off her clothes for money.

[Anonymous No.3354948]

>>3354944
How do you know?

[Anonymous No.3354949]

>>3354944
If you can recognize what you should be drawing and also that it is coming out wrong, you've developed your brain-eye connection enough. That it's coming out wrong means you haven't developed your brain-hand connection enough. Practice.

[Anonymous No.3354953]

>>3354918
People don't actually "find" theiir styles.It comes to them naturally and accidently through years of looking at stuff they like.

[Anonymous No.3354956]

>>3354932
Try to make the circles as round as possible. I don't know how fast or how focused you're doing these. But try to take your time and really focus. The goal is not to see how many circles you can draw within an hour, but to practice making those circles as rojnd as possible.

[Anonymous No.3354958]

Lads say I had a Tumblr and I accidentally liked a really weird post about mummy wanting to give me cummies, even if I immediately un-favourited it could people still in future find out about it when I'm famous? Do I need to make a new account?

Asking for a mate.

[Anonymous No.3354960]

>>3354935
Just say its a study and give link to reference. Done

[Anonymous No.3354961]

>>3354958
The internet never forgets.

[Anonymous No.3354962]

>>3354960
I dunno where I got it from and if I'm not going to get in trouble then I don't care enough to find it

[Anonymous No.3354972]

>>3354947
lol please be less insecure

[Anonymous No.3354974]

>>3354958
The person who posted it and the person who reblogged it would have seen it but I doubt either of them would give a fuck because they were the type to post that weird shit in the first place. Nobody's gonna find out dude. Stop following weird shit if you don't wanna accidentally like stuff though lmao

[Anonymous No.3354977]

>>3354972
How does that make me insecure?

[Anonymous No.3355000]

What does it even mean to "grind fundies/fundamentals"?

[Anonymous No.3355004]

>>3354882
Hello! I'm having problems with ellipses.
I can do ellipses on paper, no problem. But it doesn't translate very well in Photoshop.
I need a way to "shift" an ellipse so that the minor axis converge with the vanishing points, but with reliable precision.

Does anyone have a solution to this? I'd be very thankful if anyone helped me out.

[Anonymous No.3355016]

>>3355004
Nevermind, found a nice dude who kind of solved it for me.

[Anonymous No.3355018]

>>3355016
was it your boyfriend?

[Anonymous No.3355072]

wip

critiques welcomed

[Anonymous No.3355074]

>>3354939
are you currently reading some art book?

[Anonymous No.3355079]

>>3355018
I hope not. He might've been cool to help me out, but he sounded like a soyboy so no thanks.

[Anonymous No.3355113]

I tried doing some 45 minute studies of paintings in b/w to better understand composition and value. let me know what I can do to improve

[Anonymous No.3355120]

Just got a wacom intuous pro, switching over from traditional media, any advice? I feel like accuracy in drawing is a huge problem right now. Ink on paper I could be super accurate. Just practice?

[Anonymous No.3355131]

>>3355120
I've been using the same tablet for over 5 years, I got used to it after a day or so.
Just make sure to go through your settings and see if everything adds up.

[Anonymous No.3355149]

>>3355113
do you understand how value relates to the painting's composition now?

also how are you making it black and white?

[Anonymous No.3355163]

Did anyone else really struggle with gesturing in light lines for the start of your still life’s in the beginning? I enjoy doing it but it’s very strange to just do something and not really think about it.

[Anonymous No.3355165]

>>3355163
What?

[Anonymous No.3355253]

Just finished this, my first full completed colored pencil picture background and all.

[Anonymous No.3355296]

>>3355253
it's actually quite good. i can't speak for the butt in terms of sexiness or whatever but i think the plasticity is there, perspective looks a bit funny though, makes it look a bit a magritte like it's supposed to have some figure/ground ambiguity.

[Anonymous No.3355309]

>>3355296
A bit of that may be because I had to take the photo at an angle so there was no glare on the colored pencils. But i still think you're right about the perspective. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.3355317]

Ghosting is really helpful. Should I ghost basically anything until I get the muscle memory?

[Anonymous No.3355320]

Would it be possible to improve as an artist by just drawing constantly? I'm extremely bad at sitting and reading through paragraphs of material and following the practices they recommend.

[Anonymous No.3355321]

>>3355317
what is ghosting and can you give a visual example

[Anonymous No.3355329]

>>3355321
Hovering above the paper and making the motion you wanna make several times without touching the paper. On the left I made 2 dots and then ghosted between them a few times and then made the line. It helps creating more straight lines and better curve.

[Anonymous No.3355331]

>>3355320
I had the same problem. You just have to deal with it. It's annoying at first but then you'll realize that the reading is helpful. And you do 5% reading and 95% drawing.

[Anonymous No.3355346]

>>3354962
its in the title of that image

mjranum on deviant art
he does alot of stock photos

[Anonymous No.3355371]

Did some work from Dynamic Sketching 1 week 2. I'm more than certain I'm doing something wrong here, but I can't put my finger on it.

[Anonymous No.3355406]

>>3355320
I don't want to sound like a druggie, but I had this problem before taking mushrooms. Just 2 grams was enough for a lifetime,
fuck that shit.
5 hours of drawing while listening to music later and I was exhausted.
Then I had a full day of "I don't really feel like drawing anymore..."
The day after that I read Perspective Made Easy in one day (exercises included) and kept going from that point forward.
I'm telling you this because I was the retard at school that didn't read anything and barely read books in general, now I've read 2 books in 2 days and learned a lot.

In a retrospect, I don't think it was the drugs themselves, but the motivation of knowing that I gambled my sanity on being an artist and now I know that this is what I want to do in life.

[Anonymous No.3355432]

Where should I go to learn the basic technical skills of drawing i.e. moving the pen around and the like?

[Anonymous No.3355461]

Welp, Shapes for today look a little better. Its encouraging to see a little improvement.

[Anonymous No.3355506]

>>3354882
Nice looking cherry

[Anonymous No.3355510]

>>3355461
this is not helping you.

[Anonymous No.3355519]

>>3355461
Who told you to grind shapes like this? This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Do something else, like Perspective Made Easy or something.

[Anonymous No.3355527]

After realizing I have no idea how to use colors, I decided to just try a black and white render. I still have no idea what I'm doing unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.3355546]

How do I get better at proportions? I tried doing the whole pencil measuring thing, and it works with size proportions, but as soon as i try it with angles it all falls apart.

[Anonymous No.3355547]

>>3355461
You should practice boxes instead, they teach you a whole lot more compared to drawing flat shapes. You should try doing Draw a Box's first lesson

[Anonymous No.3355549]

>>3355546
do the bargue plates

[Anonymous No.3355552]

>>3355329
Are the guy from the last thread having trouble with your lines?

To answer your question, yeah basically. As you become more confident in your lines, you will ghost less and less each line until you can nail them down in 1 or 2 ghosts.

[Anonymous No.3355558]

>>3355549
Where can I find then when I look them up I find like 1 or 2 but not all of them. Unless there are only a few.

[Anonymous No.3355562]

[Anonymous No.3355571]

how do you draw females in a more sexy/enticing/appealing/not-ugly way? I got a small gig for free comic book day at my local comic store so I'm trying to draw better looking females. Got roughly 6 weeks to practice. My male superheroes look okay but my females are definitely lacking. Always been bad at females for some reason. Should I just try to roll with stylized stuff until I get the necessary time invested in the practice?

[Anonymous No.3355582]

>>3355519
how are you supposed to draw something that requires precision boxes if you can't a straight line freehand?

[Anonymous No.3355585]

>want to learn drawing,as a hobby
>"the only way to become good is drawing a lot"
>feel so utterly disgusted at the abominations I draw I can't do more than one drawing every 2 weeks

Is there a way to get out of this hellish loophole?
besides switching hobby,that is.

I feel that if I reached a skill level I was happy with (and my standards are pretty fucking low) it would be downhill from there but what do I know

[Anonymous No.3355586]

>>3355582
>making excuses before drawing
Might as well figure out how to connect atoms with your mind that make up the graphite on the paper.

[Anonymous No.3355596]

>>3355585
Why would it be downhill from there?

[Anonymous No.3355597]

>>3355527
You transitioned to your darkest dark too quickly. Look at your reference, there's a more gradual change from lights on both the left and right side.
>>3355582
If you want a straight line, do an exercise that actually works on straight lines. That shape exercise they're doing is messy and only reinforces bad habits. You can tell they're rushing through it and 'grinding' without putting effort into ghosting, planning, etc.

[Anonymous No.3355630]

>>3355074
No this was at a figure drawing session

[Anonymous No.3355642]

[Anonymous No.3355645]

>>3355585
>my standards are pretty fucking low
>feel so utterly disgusted at the abominations

Go lower.

[Anonymous No.3355646]

>>3355642
Critique please!

[Anonymous No.3355649]

>>3355585
Lesson 1: When shading, hold your pencil sideways like so. Some people get a penknife and carve up the side of the pencil to make the lead even longer, but that's usually unnecessary unless using a charcoal pencil.

Additionally, don't be afraid to spend a long time on your drawings. It's fine to spend some time on a drawing, have a break then come back to it. I usually can't go 5 minutes without checking the internet but I always go back to what I'm doing soon after.

Finally, I'd recommend reading Keys to Drawing and maybe then Perspective Made Easy. Both of these can be found in the book sharing thread and helped me immensely. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.3355657]

>>3354883
Why is this post much better than the sticky?

[Anonymous No.3355666]

>>3355649
I wouldn't call it a shading grip, more like a grip that gives you much more control over the pressure you apply. It's great for shading, but it's also great for putting down very faint lines and the such.

[Anonymous No.3355670]

>>3355642
Looks pretty good to me

[Anonymous No.3355680]

>>3355666
Here you are lad.

[Anonymous No.3355683]

>>3355680
Thank you friend!

[Anonymous No.3355742]

This started out good but boy what a mess it is now. It's okay, as I keep saying I take notice of my mistakes every time.

[Anonymous No.3355747]

hey there so i have drawn a couple of pictures not much tho but i want to get better so i thought about posting them on 4chan since i was pretty sure ther was a board for it so here i am. feel free to give me som constructive critisism(prolly not how you spell it) there first on here is from a refernce and the second is freehand

[Anonymous No.3355750]

and btw if you guys has some ideas for what to do next, im desperatly in need for inspiration

[Anonymous No.3355753]

>>3355750
>what to do next
Read the sticky.
>>1579290

[Anonymous No.3355759]

>>3355753
sry i did not see that more for the critique then

[Anonymous No.3355760]

>>3355750
add a character
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiYP2EqRx10

[Anonymous No.3355762]

>>3355759
Post reference, you either need to work on measuring more, or giving your objects more volume.

[Anonymous No.3355770]

>>3355762

when /beg/ tries...

[Anonymous No.3355776]

>>3355762
sry cant find the reference since its a bit of time since i made it, sry

[Anonymous No.3355778]

>>3355750
You should learn how to draw within 3D space and how to give organic objects volume.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uEtdDvK6Xo
>http://drawabox.com

[Anonymous No.3355823]

>>3354935
I want to fap to this, more?

[Anonymous No.3355829]

>>3355742
I like it. Blog? Draw more 2B.

[Anonymous No.3355850]

>>3355829
That's kind of you but really it's just a study of pic related. I'm definitely gonna draw more Toobie, I realized that I want my female characters to have her body type.

[Anonymous No.3355855]

>>3355850
Study or not, it's a good drawing that captured her appeal.

[Anonymous No.3355865]

>>3355855
Fuck. Thanks, I'll keep working hard!

[Anonymous No.3355895]

>Shitty artist draws something
>Normies (or normalfags for those who think they are cool for using old therms) like piece a lot more than "notasshitartist8347563"
>goes on a angry wojak tier rant on "*sniff* stupid fucking normies why wont they appreciate my art more you this cunt I've been grinding for years!!!"
>repeat several times trough the week


I can't be the only one annoyed by this.

Like, is not hard to think on why is this:
1-Normies have no trained eye
2-That webpage algorithm
3-He either draws porn or is topical (or both like shadman), something that appeals to more people
4-Very rarely the best game/movie/book/album/etc are rarely the most famous or sold.

I think what annoys me is their inhability to get over this and yet not try to replicate what the accounts with most followers do.

Like bitch you know why you are not famous and refuse to follow their thrends yet you can't stop crying over the consecuences of not doing it.

You wanna be popular or be a puritan that draws just what you like and not what they like?

/blog

[Anonymous No.3355904]

>>3355895
Never heard of these meme ranting artists to be honest. Every time it happens on /ic/ it's 99% of the time a terrible artist or a moderate one. Sometimes it's a really good one, in which case, it becomes a mystery as to why they're not more popular.

[Anonymous No.3355908]

I've been doing scrimshaw stuff and was doing this knife, using the top two images for reference.
My biggest problem is that the dark half of the swordfish is nearly invisible against the dark water, and I'm not sure how to avoid it in the future. Should I make the water lighter and sacrifice the way it looks in the top left pic, make the swordfish lighter all round and sacrifice the way it looks in the top right, give it a white outline, or something completely different?
Also general critique.

[Anonymous No.3355938]

I have no interest in art
Im just wondering if you guys are good at drawing, does that mean you're good at handwriting too?
I ask because my handwriting is sloppy and i could use some tips
I have a feeling im not even holding the pencil properly

[Anonymous No.3355944]

>>3355908
i think the white outline is your best bet, or put convenient splashes behind it so it' silhouetted

[Anonymous No.3355946]

>>3355938
handwriting and drawing tend to be unrelated. unless you're drawing neat handwriting.

[Anonymous No.3355947]

>>3355938
I'm good at drawing my handwriting isn't abysmal but it's not great. Handwriting to me is if it's legible I don't care past that.

[Anonymous No.3355952]

>>3355946
Ok
The part im struggling with is holding the pencil tho so i was hoping someone here could help me out with that
Idk how tho
There is a bigass bump on my middle finger from the way i hold it currently
Like freakishly big

>>3355947
Im with you
The problem for me is i can make my writing legible, and i can make the grip comfortable, but i cant do both at the same time

[Anonymous No.3356036]

>>3355938
i think my handwriting got WORSE over my few months of learning to draw lol

Also I wrote a post about my experiences with buying sketchbooks today. If any of you other beginners wanna take the time to read it maybe it'll help you avoid problems that I experienced.
https://gs95.tumblr.com/post/172151367371/post-about-sketchbooks

[Anonymous No.3356037]

painting im working on rn
wont see the model again for over a week.
any advice/crit?

[Anonymous No.3356047]

>>3355585
Pretty short video here, it helped me a little with your problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRtV-ugIT0k

[Anonymous No.3356066]

What do you guys think about "sketchy", black and white drawings?
Also, general critique pls.

[Anonymous No.3356070]

>>3356066
2D af

[Anonymous No.3356077]

aside from gesture drawing from nude models, is copying them directly the move to learn quick?
not tracing looking at pic and drawing your own

[Anonymous No.3356078]

>>3356070
Is that bad? Am I overthinking?

[Anonymous No.3356080]

>>3356078
How about you fuck off, ready the sticky and not post this garbage.

[Anonymous No.3356082]

>>3356066
ill give u a crit after i get bored of messin around with this study

>>3356077
gestures from imagination, then gestures from ref, then learning basic construction of body using 3D forms, then drawing figures from imagination using construction, then drawing figures from ref and applying what your know about construction was the best way for me to improve on my figs.

you could always do this too though:
https://youtu.be/DaG-cBidCBw

[Anonymous No.3356084]

>>3356082
forgot my picture

[Anonymous No.3356086]

>>3356084
Nice shading.

[Anonymous No.3356105]

>>3356082
>gestures from imagination
Why in the holy mother of fuck would you do this first? Or at least before you do gestures from reference?

[Anonymous No.3356107]

Trying to learn 2-point perspective.
How am I doing so far?

[Anonymous No.3356108]

>>3356082
>gestures from imagination
I'm curious how your work looks like, could you post your work?

[Anonymous No.3356111]

>>3356066
I think it's good that you're drawing from imagination. Never stop anon.
Don't hide the hands. draw them even if they're shitty curly fingers.
When you want. Try to study on anatomy. Pick a body part you want to improve at and study it. But don't stop drawing from imagination.

[Anonymous No.3356112]

>>3354882
What are some good resources to better learn how to make palettes and practice with colors and value?

Seems to be a weakness of the sticky. Good books on color, not much in the way of exercises to do.

[Anonymous No.3356115]

>>3356105
inventing first and and then finding out the right way to do stuff lets you notice your mistakes better imo.

>>3356108
sure, i'll post my blog and take this post and the next 3 to post my improvement in drawing figs.
https://gs95.tumblr.com/
i started learning to draw since july, here's some ref'd gestures from august

[Anonymous No.3356117]

>>3356108
>>3356115
ref'd gesture from feb, drawn from a model irl

[Anonymous No.3356118]

>>3356108
unref'd stuff from october

[Anonymous No.3356119]

>>3356107
Well, depends on how much learning you are actually doing. If you are following Gary Meyer's videos without really processing anything you are doing as much good as googling "chinese writing" and copying what you see. Doesn't mean you are learning chinese.

[Anonymous No.3356121]

>>3356108
unref'd stuff from feb. i'd like to think i learned a little more about the pelvis since then lol

[Anonymous No.3356122]

Slowly rendering this starting with her body. Trying to figure out what objects to put around her to go with the wine glass that will her elevated hand; something that will actually be visible once the silk is properly shaded. What are some light weight fashion materials that are slightly transparent and light in color that I can drape her with? Any other suggestions you think I need to hear as I'm finishing this?

>>3356066
They look like they really lack volume, as if they're just completely flat. The one on the bottom right is the lesser of the evils and has a decent flow to it, but still very 2D. The subject matter reminds me of people in my old high school trying to draw anime OC, but that's more of a personal issue here. Even as sketches, I feel you should do better and learn to illustrate your figures in a 3-dimensional sense; better line control wouldn't hurt either.

>>3356037
I'm loving the colors. What media are you using? I'm not familiar with traditional painting so I don't think I can offer much useful advice considering application and such, but I feel the anatomy of the area around her clavicle should be more accurate given it's almost the focal point of the piece. Values are good besides the anomaly on her neck, seems to dark compared to the other parts of her upper body.

>>3355895
Sometimes, when I post on IG, I get very little feedback. I've always thought it was because my subject matter is niche stuff, something only impressive to someone interested in improving their own art, OR that I'm just fucking horrible. Without any comments or criticisms, I'm left to imagine whatever it could be.

[Anonymous No.3356123]

>>3355750
When I'm looking for inspiration, I tend to listen to music, play videogames, read books/comics, or even watch cartoons and stuff. It wouldn't hurt to get a(nother) hobby and find inspiration from that, always makes for interesting stuff. Music has especially been kind to me these past few years during my sessions. If all else really fails you, try smoking weed within moderation, divergent thinking is a great tool and weed excels at forcing you into that mindset.

[Anonymous No.3356124]

>>3356119
I'm actually trying to memorize the techniques just after I see them on the vids.
I've done that for most of the 1-point perspective vids and I've memorized most of what Meyer uses to draw it (although not everything, but I'm getting there).

[Anonymous No.3356125]

Trying out the Feng thing, do these look like rocks?

[Anonymous No.3356130]

>>3356121
>>3356118
>>3356117
>>3356115
Take your own advice, except for the part where you do gestures from imagination. The whole point of doing a gesture drawing is to help you understand how to convey an idea across, the ideal way is to use the least amount of lines in an abstract form that conveys movement.

This helps you understand figures and how we behave a whole lot better than simply copying them, you can't understand a person by drawing them from imagination you must observe them through body language.

[Anonymous No.3356132]

WHY WON'T YOU LET ME MAKE IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.3356134]

>>3356130
i didn't really understand what you said, my dude. i just do what works for me. i don't really do gesture studies anymore, gestures are just what i do under my sketch before i get into the block in stuff and whatever.

[Anonymous No.3356136]

>>3356122
despite you having a good grasp on fundamentals, i think the reason you're not getting much feedback is because of some grating contrasts going on in your rendering. if you squint at your piece, your darks are immediately met with lights, and its almost jarring to look at. im pretty shit, so i don't have any idea how you could fix something like that though...

[Anonymous No.3356138]

i drew ruby roser

[Anonymous No.3356140]

>>3356138
Disgusting

[Anonymous No.3356144]

>>3356066
i think the silhouette of your character is a bit boring. when he unleashes his left arm, the spikes on his left shoulder grow bigger, and I feel like that makes both of these big shapes compete for attention. i think if you put bigger shapes on the shoulders from the start, and make it so the powered up arm is even bigger than the shapes on the shoulders, it could be more impactful. also i think changing the spikes on the glove of the right arm into something more "finlike" could be cool. the upper leg design also kinda reminds me of medieval noble pants, and i think a "puffier" design there could let you switch from long boots to short ones. currently the legs are just one shape all together, so even though the idea behind the design is cool, it doesn't stand out. i hope that helps a little lol

[Anonymous No.3356147]

>>3356144
i forgot my image again

[Anonymous No.3356157]

>>3356136
It's intentional for the most part. I am inspired by older pieces that are having in contrast, the theme behind the piece is supposed to illustrate contrasting elements and philosophical theories as well. I'll look into toning it down if it means making the drawing less of an eyesore if it's really too much.

[Anonymous No.3356159]

>>3356138
backgrounds are hard and if you half ass one everyone will laugh at you. just draw graphical shapes behind your cute girls instead to steadily build up your composition sense.

also RWBY sux

[Anonymous No.3356163]

>>3356159
>also RWBY sux
It's because I've never been good with bitches 'cause I never threw a ball, fetch.

[Anonymous No.3356169]

>>3356132
le box meme claims another victim

[Anonymous No.3356186]

>>3356163
It's "I never had a dog so I've never been good with bitches" smdh famalam

[Anonymous No.3356188]

>>3356169

So is there a better way of thinking? Pls constructive criticism

[Anonymous No.3356194]

>>3355571
By looking at a lot of porn mags

[Anonymous No.3356198]

>>3356132
Better than 90% of /beg/.

[Anonymous No.3356201]

>>3356125
one (You) please

[Anonymous No.3356202]

>>3356125
yes but one thing feng did in his studies is just focus on a subject, you don't have to draw the entire ref and include the bg and landscape and stuff.

>>3356188
there's a neat little exercise you can do with boxes that i posted earlier in the thread
https://youtu.be/DaG-cBidCBw

[Anonymous No.3356220]

I feel like my skill is improving at a much faster pace now that I'm starting to break down everything into simple shapes and patterns.

Finally starting to have fun drawing human heads now (though still far, far away from any mastery).

Any idea how I can get started on drawing hands and feet, though? They have such insanely complex basic shapes, I don't know where to begin.

[Anonymous No.3356223]

>>3356220
By drawing them a lot. They all look bad until you see and have drawn enough of them to understand the shapes.

[Anonymous No.3356251]

>>3356107
is this from How to Draw or Perspective Made Easy?

[Anonymous No.3356263]

>>3356202
>yes but one thing feng did in his studies is just focus on a subject, you don't have to draw the entire ref and include the bg and landscape and stuff.
Thank you for the feedback.

[Anonymous No.3356272]

>>3356198
Y-you too
>>3356202
Thanks, I love James a lot, I wish he would do more on rounded/organic forms and drawing them in perspective (e.g ribcages).

Also his faces aren't the best, he can't draw appealing people, esp women, so I'm basically SOL since he's the only YouTuber who "thinks" like I do, if that makes sense?

[Anonymous No.3356293]

>>3356138
Mind if I steal your ruby roser and use her for a discord avatar?

[Anonymous No.3356305]

>>3356293
not him, but why the fuck not? Not like RoosterTeeth had a problem stealing from others lol

[Anonymous No.3356325]

would those poseable anime figmas be any useful as study tools? stylization is a problem, but i know animators use them for reference and they are 3D objects

[Anonymous No.3356330]

>>3356325
No.

[Anonymous No.3356335]

>>3356138
I know that doodling and drawing what you like is the first step into drawing better but when are you going to pick up a tutoring book?

[Anonymous No.3356346]

>>3356325
I've bought a pair, they're no good for anatomy, but they're an excellent visual tool to eyeball joint motion and angles.

They're not worth buying on a whim though, I think, they won't make you better overnight. I'd think of them more as another type of reference than a study tool.

[Anonymous No.3356392]

what number /beg/?

[Anonymous No.3356393]

>>3356392
1.7

[Anonymous No.3356394]

>>3355895
That kind of reaction is probably originated from the fact those shitty fundie-obsessed artist doesn't realize that those popular artists put even more work and time than them.
It doesn't help that most artists rarely reveal the effort they put to develop their skills.
So these shitters quickly assume that those artists are just "cheap hacks", "skipping fundies", "probably using symbols" unlike themselves that train through the super-cool, purist, in-depth, classical fundamental principles. They are being completely unaware those artists they ranted about probably went through the same training as them.
(I'm excluding meme artists like Shadman and the likes of course)

[Anonymous No.3356401]

>>3356394
Wasn't Shadman going through professional art education but he got kicked out of school after they found out he posted nazi lolis online?

[Anonymous No.3356404]

>>3356401
Wouldn't be surprised if so, he still clearly show some rudimentary figure drawing skills especially in older works. Though his popularity is definitely still ludicrously disproportionate to his technical skill

[Anonymous No.3356407]

>>3356393
1 it is.

[Anonymous No.3356445]

is this better than line grinding?

[Anonymous No.3356457]

>>3356407
Better than 90% of /beg/

[Anonymous No.3356461]

>>3356457
should go pro.

[Anonymous No.3356478]

>>3356445
not at all. Isn't helping you in anyway.

Draw cubes.

[Anonymous No.3356484]

>>3356457
nah

[Anonymous No.3356493]

>>3356144
Thanks for the critic! I think you really got the grasp of the thing.

[Anonymous No.3356494]

>>3356111
Gotta keep that in mind. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.3356499]

>>3356122
Never thought much about 2D, but I'II keep your advice in mind. Also, this is a redrawing of an old sketch I did in high school. Anyways, thanks for the tip!

[Anonymous No.3356501]

>>3356147
That looks really cool. Gonna try to post later another sketch based on what you did here.

[Anonymous No.3356572]

Can somebody please help me with drawing portraits and faces? I know how to construct a head, BUT I have hard time drawing features. This is my level right now (lmao). I need something like a good book or videocourse about features, please send help.

[Anonymous No.3356574]

>>3356572
Fuck, I forgot to resize image to 1000 px .__. I'm sorry I'm a newfag.

[Anonymous No.3356585]

>>3356572
>I know how to construct a head
Show us.

[Anonymous No.3356593]

>>3356585
*sigh* I went through Michael Hampton's course about head drawing, there really isnt much to show. Generic robot face to carve. But he ignores features.

[Anonymous No.3356594]

>>3356572
the main thing to do is study drawings by the old masters (or whoever else you want really).

and a book recommendation, 'the artist's complete guide to facial expression' by gary faigin. i know there are pdfs of it floating around.

[Anonymous No.3356606]

>>3356594
Wow, thanks for the book! I look through the pages, looks like a good manual.
>the main thing to do is study drawings by the old masters (or whoever else you want really).
So I must copy, lets say, da Vinci's work?

[Anonymous No.3356625]

>hurr draw a cube when you can't draw a straight line free hand
begone crab

[Anonymous No.3356645]

>>3356625
You do know that when you draw a cube, your not only practicing how to draw a 3d form but also how to draw a STRAIGHT line.

[Anonymous No.3356661]

>>3356625
How many instances of straight lines will you find in what you want to draw?

[Anonymous No.3356695]

how to approach detailing here?

[Anonymous No.3356696]

I'm not strictly a beginner, but I'm /beg/ tier when it comes to attaching asses to torsos and legs to asses and pretty much anything that goes on in the butt zone, I do a good job of it enough of the time that I can redraw my way through it but I'm having real trouble with it. Are there any especially good construction techniques for doing that area in particular?

[Anonymous No.3356752]

>>3356625
bro it's a fucking line stop worrying about being perfect just draw a fucking box already

[Anonymous No.3356758]

>>3356625
Draw 2 dots and then freehand connect them with a line & repeat that process until you can draw a straight-ish line freehand there u go you're as good at drawing straight lines freehand as you'll ever need to be.

[Anonymous No.3356786]

>>3356251
It's from Gary Meyer's perspective videos on Gnomon Workshop.

[Anonymous No.3356798]

I made pic related but i don't get how to work out if a tilted plane is in the light or not. with this one I just did it because it felt right. hopefully PME will touch on this(im halfway through)

>>3356786
oh never heard of gnomon workshop, are those video's any good for a /beg/ with basic perspective knowledge?

[Anonymous No.3356799]

>>3356798

[Anonymous No.3356803]

>>3356799
Nice. If only it had windows and more detail, it would look perfect.

[Anonymous No.3356804]

>>3356799
How did you decide the appropriate colors?

[Anonymous No.3356805]

>>3356803
wanted 2 add some, but the light source is kinda messed up so it would be a waste

[Anonymous No.3356811]

Hit me /ic/. How the fuck do I capture the elegance and grace of this dirty cup better?

[Anonymous No.3356815]

>>3356811
Why did you draw the top of the cup? You can't see it in the photo. Only draw what you see. I'd imagine this is currently over your ability level though judging by that sketch.

[Anonymous No.3356820]

>>3356695
depends on the style and level of detail everything else will go into. hue shifts that would imply value changes/plane changes, value shifts. throw some colors around and blend into hard and soft edges. a bristle brush might be good, experiment. find pieces that look like you want your piece to look and try to reverse-engineer what they did.

[Anonymous No.3356821]

>>3356799
Chapter 2 of How To Render.

[Anonymous No.3356830]

>>3356815
Sorry. The angle I took the picture different from the angle I drew it from.

[Anonymous No.3356834]

>>3356805
kinda cheated, I used a multiply layer with a dark saturated purple for the shadows and for the base color I just picked what looked nice.

>>3356821
trying to follow the pic related, so might take a while before I'm there(im at perspective made easy)

[Anonymous No.3356880]

Cubes?

[Anonymous No.3356893]

>>3356880
Your cubes should never spread out as they go away from the corner that's closest to you. Either make the lines parallel for 2-point perspective, or converge like the other sides for 3-point perspective.

[Anonymous No.3356929]

>>3356811
>>3354883

[Anonymous No.3356942]

>>3356929
Any tips for drawing what you see? I have trouble capturing the proportions.

[Anonymous No.3356946]

>>3356834
Never knew #3 and #10 had exercises

[Anonymous No.3356951]

>>3356457
Don't worry, most of the time I am fucking awful, but I have my moments.

>>3356461
I don't think that's viable until I get a support network first. I do want to explore art as my hobby, but for now it is something that I can't really take a serious effort into unless there is a motivation behind it. The way that I see it is that I will improve over time to a decent level and be satisfied with my own art, but because its nothing I can make a living off of, I can't make it my only focus.

>>3356484
agreed.

[Anonymous No.3356955]

REEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.3356958]

Here's one that's at a bit of a better angle, and with more objects. The major problem I'm having is trying to get all of them on the page, I seem to either inflate the objects or make them too small.

[Anonymous No.3356960]

>>3356803
turns out i'm to retarded to be able 2 draw windows.

>>3356946
lol

>>3356880
Maybe ur going for a warped perspective, but if not you should try to keep your vanishing points far away from each other

[Anonymous No.3356961]

>>3356958
You're god damned awful

[Anonymous No.3356964]

>>3356961
Yeah :c

[Anonymous No.3356972]

>>3356958
Read the board sticky.

[Anonymous No.3356988]

>>3356960
That field and dirt road really add character to this. Feels more real by the changes.

[Anonymous No.3356989]

>>3356951

You're still at the symbol stage. Work on observation. Study various things until you get a feel for it.

[Anonymous No.3356990]

>>3356989
gr8 b8 m8

[Anonymous No.3356991]

>>3356989
I don't disagree with your advice, but where do you see the symbol drawing?

[Anonymous No.3356992]

>>3356942
Not the same Anon, but focusing on the shapes of the negative space help with understanding proportions and proper placement of the figure you're drawing. Granted, you should start studying up on construction a bit first so you can understand how to apply basic shapes to your subject since you're having such a hard time applying the form. Also, be sure to try and control your strokes, there's a lot of lines going on in your image but you still don't even have the object's form properly illustrated. Plan your lines before putting down the pencil.

[Anonymous No.3356995]

>>3356991
it's either bait or this guy has no idea what he is talking about.

[Anonymous No.3356996]

>>3356991
Different Anon here; the lips lack depth. It's only slightly evident that they're not flat but it seems like they don't adhere to the sphere shape of the lower face at all. The nose passes because it's partially above it but still looks as if it wraps around the head. The eyes are a tad jarring. I can't really say too much about it since I struggle with eye shapes myself.

In short, the only indication I see of symbol drawing are the lips. Focus on having them wrap around the dental sphere instead of the upper jaw.
Also, the ears should be lined up with the eye/brow area.

[Anonymous No.3356999]

>>3356990
ok crabby

>>3356991

Eyes, lips, the skull, the neck

It's not first time /beg/ level of symbol but it's still bad. Just compare it to the ref.

Or you can just ignore my advice and continue doing whatever you do. (presumably it's yours)

[Anonymous No.3357001]

>>3356999
It's not. I was just curious.

[Anonymous No.3357004]

>>3356999

[Anonymous No.3357005]

>>3357004

Accurate placement =/= not symbol.

[Anonymous No.3357007]

>>3357004

also post the ref without overlaying your drawing on top.

[Anonymous No.3357010]

>>3357007
I did this a month ago, so I don't have anything that isn't already screenshotted, and I don't care enough to find it for someone giving bad advice.

[Anonymous No.3357014]

>>3356960
>can draw a door but can't draw windows
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.3357015]

>>3357010
>someone giving bad advice.

When someone actually want to help in /beg/

baka...

[Anonymous No.3357017]

>>3357014
Tried like 4 times, just cound't draw a appealing window. likely just need to go to sleep, I feel retarded.

[Anonymous No.3357021]

I work as an art teacher. Put this together in a couple hours for a bulletin board today

[Anonymous No.3357022]

>>3357021

Did someone pay you to do that?

[Anonymous No.3357023]

>>3357021
Do you tell your students to go to /beg/ too?

[Anonymous No.3357031]

>>3357022
Nahhh..i just do a lot of bulletin boards to pass the time and impress the young lass teachers

[Anonymous No.3357032]

>>3357023
No. I dont recommend anonymous anime image boards to students

[Anonymous No.3357042]

hey I just found this useful bit of advice if you are drawing with a tablet on windows 10:

This solution works on Photoshop and Sketchbook Pro both.

Right click on photoshop.exe > go to properties > select Compatibility tab> click on 'Change settings for all users'> Tick on 'Run this program in compatibility mode for:' > select your OS Win 7/8 > Tick on 'Disable Display scaling on high DPI settings' > Press ok

[Anonymous No.3357043]

>>3356958
fuuuck learn to draw straight lines stop doing that unsure stop and start with them when you start drawing a line commit to it don't hesitate if you do you'll get those shitty looking lines it's better just to fuck up your line and erase it then make your whole drawing look shitty with shitty lines.

[Anonymous No.3357044]

>>3357032
lol.

Must be crazy frustrating to be a art teacher.

[Anonymous No.3357052]

>>3357042
what does it do

[Anonymous No.3357054]

I just got this book and I can’t understand it. Am I retarded? Is there something better to start with?

[Anonymous No.3357057]

>>3357052
should help reduce squiggly lines when drawing. sorry should of said that first but for me it works.

[Anonymous No.3357064]

>>3357057
Wait, seriously? Ever since i got my new tablet ive been having that issue, thanks a ton!

[Anonymous No.3357082]

>>3357054
Literally in the first post

[Anonymous No.3357104]

how is this pile of bricks?

[Anonymous No.3357106]

>>3356958
http://drawabox.com

[Anonymous No.3357107]

>>3357104
Try to avoid having things lineup with your horizon line like that

[Anonymous No.3357122]

practice...

[Anonymous No.3357144]

>>3357106
I heard drawabox was a meme, is this true?

[Anonymous No.3357147]

>>3357144
No, it's good up to lesson 7. Don't submit work for on their reddit shit and just do it. It's good for getting you off the ground,

[Anonymous No.3357153]

>>3356955
lol, is this from construction or reference?

[Anonymous No.3357155]

>>3356958
Bro are you even trying

[Anonymous No.3357157]

>>3357043
There are like 100 bigger problems than his line quality, lol

[Anonymous No.3357160]

>>3357153
Reference.

Lips, nose, proportional issues. Just a mess everywhere. I can see it all, I was mad because I only noticed this after looking at it on my computer screen.

[Anonymous No.3357166]

>>3357160
56% masterrace

[Anonymous No.3357167]

>>3357166
Reminder that the majority of Hispanics are of European heritage.

Reminder that Spain and Portgual pretty much wiped out 90% of the Natives and raped the remaining 10% with their powerful white seed.

We are indeed 80% masterrace.

[Anonymous No.3357169]

>>3357155
if it's any consolation i drew it in about 3 minutes

[Anonymous No.3357172]

>>3357160
She cute. Just be more patient with laying in your features, try to make sure they are in the correct place before adding details. You'll get there bro

[Anonymous No.3357174]

>>3357169
That's not consolation because that's my point, you should be drawing longer than 3 minutes if you want it to be any good, take some time to observe what you are drawing

[Anonymous No.3357198]

>>3357160
>>3354883

[Anonymous No.3357208]

>>3357198
You can't just do that for everyone anon at least give them a single sentence response. It doesn't even have to be constructive, just make fun of them or something.

[Anonymous No.3357215]

>>3357160
You're clearly a beginner, which is fine. Try to use the grid method so you understand how a face should be laid down, eventually you'll understand proportions and observation better and you'll be able to get off that crutch.

[Anonymous No.3357221]

>>3356834
>trying to follow the pic related, so might take a while before I'm there(im at perspective made easy)
You're retarded. I told you a chapter to look at. If you can read it and understand then use it, if not then ask someone to help you or go through everything else. Also that image is made and peddled by someone who spammed it. Do your own research on what you think you're missing, doing everything there in order is a good way to get burned out on stuff you don't like doing. Some of those materials are excellent but dumping them all and prescribing people to go through each one is stupid because it traps less experienced people like you.

[Anonymous No.3357223]

>>3356996
>Focus on having them wrap around the dental sphere instead of the upper jaw.
How are you supposed to actually do this? I've had slightly better luck trying to draw the lips wrapping around the muzzle like they're wrapped on a cylinder. The dental sphere thing that I read in Hampton didn't work as well for me in more finalized drawings than the construction stage of placing them on an ovoid.

[Anonymous No.3357224]

>>3357160
Why did you try rendering before even making sure the placement of features was correct? Sometimes I'll take a break from a drawing and take a picture of it. Then look at the picture and think about whether it's something I'd want to send to my friend to show progress or if I've made glaring mistakes. You shouldn't move on to details so soon.

[Anonymous No.3357238]

noticeably worse than a lot of my other stuff

uhh

[Anonymous No.3357249]

>>3357122
Good job anon. Now give me 8 more faces today.

[Anonymous No.3357309]

What's the key to stopping comparing myself to other artists? I literally cannot help it and it's making me very depressed about my art because I feel I'm not going to be as awesome as other people.

[Anonymous No.3357312]

>>3357309
Don't look at other artists and draw draw draw.

[Anonymous No.3357321]

>>3357309
By not looking at art that's close to your level. Look at art that is 100x over your level.

[Anonymous No.3357409]

[Anonymous No.3357411]

>>3357409
Nice, how long did it take you?

[Anonymous No.3357419]

>>3357409
not bad. a couple strange details though and values that don't really matchup. a lot of colors are too light but you made the cast shadow from the cube on the box too dark but too light on the ground. some of the edges should be harder, like the shadow side of the sphere against the lit side of the cylinder. also the fresnel effect, as objects get more oblique in angle from you they become more reflective. i wouldn't worry about trying to throw the little nicks in, it's too easy to feel gratification from rendering little stuff like that.

keep working on new studies, don't keep working on that one (i see the date says 3/21 but not sure how long you've spent on it).

[Anonymous No.3357427]

>>3357312
I swear the criticisms/advice on this board are fucking terrible..why wouldnt you want tostudy the work of masters and apply their techniques to your own work?

[Anonymous No.3357429]

>>3357411
in total, probably two hours over the course of like three days.

>>3357419
gotcha, value perception is still one of my biggest issues and it can get frustrating. thanks!

[Anonymous No.3357433]

>>3357427
News flash, very few people who post know what they're talking about. Especially in the containment thread.

[Anonymous No.3357445]

Don't forget to draw after you're done with fundies

[Anonymous No.3357494]

I've been a beginner for over 5 years.
It's time to call it quits. Making it was clearly not meant to happen.

[Anonymous No.3357502]

>>3357494
You are only a beginner when you start, you haven't been a beginner for a long time. I'm sorry I had to break it to you.

[Anonymous No.3357510]

>>3357502
not him but if you've been drawing for 10 years and your work still looks something like >>3355747 , im pretty sure ur a beginner

[Anonymous No.3357517]

How do you know when you're ready to leave /beg/? When I post in other threads no one tells me to go to the /beg/ thread and sometimes I get compliments or helpful crits, however whenever I post in here I usually just get ignored or really vague unhelpful responses. I was hoping someone would just tell me when to leave but that hasn't happened...

[Anonymous No.3357528]

>>3357517
Post you work until you can't be ignored. Easy. And don't tell me you have liar. Post your work.

[Anonymous No.3357531]

>>3357517
Having decent mileage and enough knowledge to apply all the fundamentals above the basic levels, imo. I still see people posting beginner level stuff on other threads, but they have a nice grasp on all the fundamentals and know how to go about improving themselves based on that knowledge. The should be some sort of test including the basics that anonymous can draw for and have others judge/grade if they're still to be considered a /beg/. It'd be fun at first then turn into ammo for shitposting.

[Anonymous No.3357535]

>>3357223
Practice drawing the oval shape as a three Dimensional object then start applying contours to it, a longitudinal and then a latitude. These lines should then be the center of the inner lips being placed and divided into halves vertically, applying the basic "M" and "W" shapes above and below the line should help with making sure it follows the curvature of the dental sphere. I drew a bunch of ovals and practiced this way, the part that fucked me up was placing the nose too far into the sphere when it really just lays atop it.

[Anonymous No.3357539]

>>3357531
It's easy to test someone. Just tell them to draw something from a reference. Any experienced eye can tell if they're competent or not. Inexperienced eyes will either nitpick or be in awe. It's that simple.

[Anonymous No.3357581]

>>3357238
draw the forms in the hair. don't try to draw the individual strands

[Anonymous No.3357583]

>>3357517
Man how you gonna say this and not post your work for us to judge

[Anonymous No.3357603]

>>3357583
Because if you make a whiny post like that people are unnecessarily harsh and dishonest. I've posted my work itt.

[Anonymous No.3357610]

>>3357517
No one is keeping you here.

[Anonymous No.3357644]

Learning young sap here.
Gonna start hard grinding fundamentals soon, should I go with digital or traditional if I plan on mostly going digital in the future?

[Anonymous No.3357717]

>>3357644
youre overthinking it, just draw
do whatever you want, why start traditional if youre switching to digital anyway? ic is a meme

[Anonymous No.3357749]

Can someone explain gesture?

[Anonymous No.3357753]

Let's say I have point A and point B and want to draw a straight line connecting them. I use ghosting to practice it. Should I ghost only from A to B or back and forth between them?

[Anonymous No.3357758]

>>3357749
gesture is body language essentially
a gesture drawing is a drawing in which you focus only on expressing the body language and not at all on plasticity or anatomy or anything else about the figure

[Anonymous No.3357764]

>>3357644
Also beginner here. From all the digital artists I've seen (ones that inspire me) they all started traditional graphite realism (they are all now semi realism ) realistic manga style) I'm assuming it's because drawing talent transfers well but when you are new its much easier learning especially when you have better control over the medium.

[Anonymous No.3357769]

>>3357758
Thanks. I'm having a hard time with the concept of capturing the essence of something without focusing on any contours or shapes

[Anonymous No.3357900]

What can I do to practice painting? Everything I make is always so sloppy and bad.

[Anonymous No.3357966]

how does one draw hair

[Anonymous No.3358151]

Someone told me i was good at construction but I needed to work on gesture. This vid helped me out a lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvjB0rj6yAc
also please tell me if I'm doing something wrong. I have little knowledge of superficial muscle and bones.

[Anonymous No.3358153]

>>3357900
Start off with Still Life like this anon >>3357409

[Anonymous No.3358154]

>>3358151
poses are a bit static, make sure you're getting that sweet sweet contrapposto

[Anonymous No.3358167]

>>3358154
So basically the shoulder line should be at an opposite angle to the hip line if the figure is standing still?
It doesnt look like the last example in pic related is even possible unless she's moving, maybe i just found a shit pic

[Anonymous No.3358205]

It's pretty hard to stay motivated when even your straight lines look like putrid garbage.

[Anonymous No.3358207]

>>3358151
>>3358154
not a real improvement but I know what to do from this point

[Anonymous No.3358211]

>>3358205
Iktf

All I ever wanted to do in life is draw

[Anonymous No.3358221]

>>3358205
Maybe if you're an idiot. What are you? A disfunctional ruler?

[Anonymous No.3358286]

really messed up with this one.

anyone got any advise on how to fix? or would it be polishing a turd.

[Anonymous No.3358287]

How does my Loomis look?

[Anonymous No.3358291]

>>3357510
Then you're not a beginner, you're just a bad artist who has been doing it for a long time.

[Anonymous No.3358294]

>>3358291

both

[Anonymous No.3358395]

>>3358153
K! Thank you.

[Anonymous No.3358411]

>>3357535
thanks, i needed a better "process". just got home and will try that now.

[Anonymous No.3358416]

>>3358286
The sun isn't a local light.

[Anonymous No.3358443]

>fingers cramp
>pens suck
>nothing to draw that I can actually draw
ngmi

[Anonymous No.3358506]

>>3357644
Traditional is easier by a wide margin. Digital could also give you habits that are potentially negative like using ctrl+z as a crutch. Also, if you are like me, you bought a tablet that is far too small. If you haven't bought a tablet yet, traditional is far cheaper so if I were you I'd stick with paper and pencil until you're absolutely sure you want to invest.

[Anonymous No.3358534]

critique please? thank y'all!

[Anonymous No.3358546]

>>3358534
It looks pretty flat

[Anonymous No.3358560]

Hey guys I need that "anti-symbol drawing" guide that has this dude as the reference. I wanna re-draw it and get it done right.

[Anonymous No.3358569]

>>3358560
don't look at the second post in the thread

[Anonymous No.3358619]

>>3358534
Doesn't look happy enough

[Anonymous No.3358651]

>>3358534
Pretty rigid, compositionally. Learn to use angles to add interest to a scene, instead of creating a grid. The solid brown line of the shoreline splits the image in two, and leads the eye right out of the painting - what's the focus of this? The mountain? The lake? The trees? Pick what the focus is, and then work to emphasize that. You then use color, composition, and values to do that.

Color-wise, it's too vivid, and the color composition is jumbled and confusing. Trees closest to the viewer would be lighter, more local color, and not just black and green, and the trees across the lake would be a mixture of greens and blues and greys and brown - there's more color in a landscape than just black and green. Green wouldn't be that vibrant that far away, in that kind of forest. This is symbol painting, painting what you think would be there, not what actually is, or what would be realistic.
The water is done wrong. You have no highlights/shadows of the waves, and a lake would not be a perfect mirror like this unless the water was perfectly still. Again, symbol painting.

The sky is boring, and simplistic, and symbol painting. You can't imagine more interesting clouds than this?
And, the trees are symbol painting. That's not what trees look like, that's how children draw/paint trees.
Overall, average for a completely amatuer attempt. It's not even Bob Ross level. Go look at real landscapes, and paintings from real artists, to see how they approach a subject like this. Learn and study composition, color, and rendering. Use this as your "start" position, and move on from it. Use reference. Go take pictures, or use photos from others, to find what works, and how others see landscapes, how they choose focal points, and how they build a scene that's appealing and explores what they want to show. It can be anything from a dramatic mountain, to an interesting sky, or a visually appealing vantage of a scenic view.
Keep going.

[Anonymous No.3358691]

>>3358651
Thank you very much for your constructive critique, I really appreciate.

[Anonymous No.3358697]

This makes absolutely no sense to me and looks wrong. Is it supposed to be wrong?

[Anonymous No.3358700]

first time using a program (draw pile) and not pen and paper. Is there a better way to blend the colors?

[Anonymous No.3358712]

>>3358697
it looks fine. Objects in a room have arbitrary rotation and placement so they won't have the same vanishing point except a common height on the horizon. Place a bunch of books on your desk and see where their vanishing points are. Look around your room or the next time you go to an office/waiting room/classroom. Many objects in a scene all have different vanishing points but some common horizon or vertical line they're facing.

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