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Are we ever going to get actual animation again? Anonymous Tue Mar 20 15:19:50 2018 No.3352715 [Reply] [Original]

Are we ever going to get actual animtion where each frame is actually drawn and not a glorified flash animation where a single drawing is tweened to oblivion?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 15:22:35 2018 No.3352716 living under a rock

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 15:29:07 2018 No.3352726 >>3352715 And what are you doing about it, OP?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 15:31:19 2018 No.3352731 >>3352715 yeah anime never stopped doing that

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 15:45:01 2018 No.3352749 >>3352726 Not watch any of this flash animated shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 15:47:08 2018 No.3352752 >>3352731 Bullshit, except for very few studios and productions all anime nowadays is either full of CG dogshit or low quality as hell. This is what happens when you create a market of shit eaters who care more about quantity than quality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 17:15:25 2018 No.3352826 File: 44 KB, 491x549, (((rebecca sugar))).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3352715 NO there are only reddit/tumblr cartoons now

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:43:52 2018 No.3353072 >>3352715 drawn animation is going to become high art like poetry and theater

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:51:30 2018 No.3353084 Probably not, animation is mostly for kids and 97% of the adults who watch it, are into it for the content rather than the form (see Rick and Morty, for instance). Only artists care about the quality of animation, so yeah...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 20 20:53:41 2018 No.3353087 File: 3.05 MB, 896x871, splatoon bardbot.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3352715 2D animation are for porn loops. Have you seen some of these Patreons anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 21:02:25 2018 No.3354650 File: 1.97 MB, 540x304, saitama-one-punch-man-gif-4.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3352752 the characters are almost always hand drawn in anime and when they aren't it's very short.

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 21:13:33 2018 No.3354657
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>>3352715
I am afraid no.

the majority of people don't care or don't even see the difference.
producers are cheap and only care about sales. so 3D animation dominates the animation industry; they consider 2D to be inferior, childish.
I've been working in a 3D animation studio and was asked to deliver short 2D animation clips.
even 3D animators think 2D animation is easy and simple and vastly underestimate the amount of work that goes into it.

traditional frame by frame animation as we know it is dead. thanks to fucking Toon Boom and Flash.

And this breaks my heart.

But I decided to try make my own films, for a very small, dying group of people. and for myself.

(I am only talking about the west, japan is still producing high quality stuff. but this is another thing in total)

Anonymous Wed Mar 21 21:24:16 2018 No.3354671

>>3352715
Don't worry anon, once I git gud I'll start making quality animation and single handedly revive 2D animation and bring forth the new renaissance. Then I'll come here on /ic/ and start recruiting and training you folk to join my new studio.
>>3353087
Fug that's noice

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 21:46:59 2018 No.3354693 File: 1.95 MB, 500x281, tumblr_o7t0iaJ6RV1uadz9uo1_500.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3354657 >dead anime continues to make more 2D animation every year.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 22:24:34 2018 No.3354721 GoogleNet will probably create a simulation of the universe including Disney at some point so just wait until then.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 22:30:51 2018 No.3354724 File: 75 KB, 1136x640, miyazaki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3354721 >I wish a machine could make everything for me because it's too much for me to exert my own creativity God you ilk disgust me

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 21 23:48:21 2018 No.3354801 >>3354724 He didn;t say 'I wish', he said 'it will'. Different.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 22 00:06:30 2018 No.3354819 >>3354693 redline, 2008 i think

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 22 00:10:30 2018 No.3354821 >>3352715 Batman was garbage though. It was more or less the show that made me stop watching cartoons, because I hated the flat style.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 22 00:12:33 2018 No.3354824 File: 90 KB, 1080x540, bas_c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3354821 What's it like being high on your own ass-juice all the time?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 22 00:19:37 2018 No.3354828 >>3354657 The industry has no fault for this. Its the consumer. They are cheap fucks who are looking for quantity not quality. But nothings ever dead, every trend comes back. Someday people will realize that cheap shit is not worth it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 22 00:21:24 2018 No.3354831 File: 113 KB, 500x378, 4600660331_1363c0952c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3354824 The maxx is better

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 22 00:27:16 2018 No.3354837 >>3354831 why can't they both be good?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 22 02:33:00 2018 No.3354916 >>3354693 >(I am only talking about the west, japan is still producing high quality stuff. but this is another thing in total)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 22 08:43:51 2018 No.3355189 I'm gonna assume you're talking about big productions, there's a ton of lovely 2d animation at festivals / short films in general.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 22 11:29:05 2018 No.3355388 >>3354831 I don't get what's your point. you prefer the style of The Maxx over Batman TAS. but there is barely any animation in The Maxx.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 22 11:47:07 2018 No.3355418 >>3354657 The funny thing is that the stiffness in the HD Simpsons intro was an artistic and not a budgetary choice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 22 12:02:49 2018 No.3355440 >>3355418 really? how did you come by this information?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 22 17:42:56 2018 No.3355807 >>3354916 ohh my b. well then ye full traditional 2D animation is dead.

Anonymous Thu Mar 22 21:27:07 2018 No.3356039

A lot of 2D animation is DEAD because they're not finding ways of adapting the art to modern times.

Castlevania on Netflix and Song of The Sea are 2D and have been quite successful, alongside One Punch Man and Space Dandy. Sonic Mania is a big budget 2D game and look how it turned out.
You just need to find a certain "click" and you reap in the benefits; implement really cool looking visuals and ideas not seen before in the animation and avoid copying "Renaissance Disney" and the "Nine Old Men", or else it will just stay dead.

People will be able to tell when something looks dated. Make 2D animation in a modern context and people will flock to it.

Anonymous Fri Mar 23 01:21:26 2018 No.3356208

>>3352715
>Are we ever going to get actual animtion where each frame is actually drawn and not a glorified flash animation where a single drawing is tweened to oblivion?
In the West: No.

Japan is your only chance. The market has been diluted but if the budget is there, great things come out of Japan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 23 01:49:41 2018 No.3356233 >>3356039 >forget the past and embrace the modern trash >your day is over old man the youth is the future I hope you choke at home alone

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 23 02:13:56 2018 No.3356258 >>3352752 You're retarded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 23 03:00:24 2018 No.3356289 >>3352826 >comparing Jenny to this bitch Fucking niggers reeeee

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 23 13:23:45 2018 No.3356747 >>3354721 Yah it will. In the next 2000 years if you're lucky

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 23 13:29:31 2018 No.3356750 >>3352752 You don't watch modern anime, do you?

Anonymous Fri Mar 23 13:38:59 2018 No.3356761

The anime industry in China is growing along with the influx of chinese web comics. I predict China and unified korea to go neck to neck and even surpass them in the cartoons industry within the next 5 to 10 years. Meanwhile in the states and possibly canada, 2D will make a comeback thanks to Disneys tv programming and netflix growing demand for anime style films. Japans days are coming to an end where anime is concerned.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 23 13:46:35 2018 No.3356768 >>3356761 The only thing that lacks in china is Voice talent. Seiyuu arent treated like gods daughters over there. It really does not help with their shit sounding language.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 25 16:53:36 2018 No.3359783 >>3352715 >>3359775

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 25 17:18:09 2018 No.3359813 Why? So you can do shitty labor for pennies on the dollar? I have no idea why you would want that version of the industry back

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