/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3333760]

Fuck it, just gonna post some characters of mine and see what you think design-wise. I wanna know my limits and how to get on track to breakin out of em. Also, my limits makin my characters look dynamic in how they move, they just don't have quite the flow or the pop that I want.

[Anonymous No.3333764]

[Anonymous No.3333765]

I love the way it looks. /ic/ probably won't though, since /ic/ has no taste

[Anonymous No.3333771]

I admit that for all this time I've been drawing, I don't know too much about other artists. I definitely have influence from cartoons but really, I just try and look at people for inspiration more than anything. Wouldn't mind bein recommended some artists that have powerful, fluid figures in their work. Willard Mullin's probably one of my favorites because his work just looks so raw and punchy.

[Anonymous No.3333787]

I'll say I'm also a sucker for old cartoon hashes and symbols. Stars, jumpin sweat beads and tears, exclamation points and question marks, etc. Something I found helpful for angry expressions was lookin at animals, too. The way a lion or tiger snarls, the anatomy doesn't carry over 1/1 to a face, but you can get the distortion and the power there.

[Anonymous No.3333800]

As far as linework goes, I don't really use it to render anything, but I oughta give it a try. The outer contour of a character, I try to see it less as a line and more as a pulse.

[Anonymous No.3333814]

where did you learned to make so dynamic poses? Asking OP, not anyone else.

[Anonymous No.3333817]

I like the design, desu.

Is this a lady? Is there porn of it? Can I make some?

[Anonymous No.3333824]

Good design, very dynamic and expressive. I personally deslike the face but understand it's what makes your character unique. Don't change it.

[Anonymous No.3333825]

>>3333814
Old 30s and 40s Fleischer, MGM, WB, and Disney cartoons. And sports.

>>3333817
Yeah she is. Also I can't do anything to stop ya, so go ahead.

[Anonymous No.3333832]

>>3333825
>And sports

[Anonymous No.3333833]

>>3333832
Whassamatter

[Anonymous No.3333848]

> I wanna know my limits and how to get on track to breakin out of em

moar life drawing and anatomy shit. if it's the showcase of the design you gotta be better at it than this
mike matessi's force book might interest you

face is very cartoony but body has tons of muscle lines, bit more cohesion either way might help unless that's the point
right design >>3333800 is kinda cluttered
you might want to carefully consider
ball pose in lower right >>3333764 has fucked weight balance
overall decent enough design, at least not cutesy animu waifu

>Wouldn't mind bein recommended some artists that have powerful, fluid figures in their work.
jack kirby, heinrich kley, rhetta scott, rodin, michelangelo, john k, clampett, degas

6/10 threads have died for worse

[Anonymous No.3333849]

>>3333848
also, these have >>3333787 nice characterisation. do some drawings with dark pencil, might make your lines better

[Anonymous No.3333852]

Damn. A good thread on /ic/ for once. Very good dynamism, design, characterization. You've really made her feel alive. The exaggeration works fantastically well, even though it's not my personal cup of tea. Keep at it.

[Anonymous No.3333880]

>>3333848
Thank ya.

Sorry for the delay, wanted to make a fresh drawing of another character of mine who helps the woman here.

[Anonymous No.3333882]

[Anonymous No.3333887]

>>3333760
GET OUT OF HERE WHILE YOU STILL CAN! YOU DON'T WANT TO BECOME THIS!

[Anonymous No.3333902]

[Anonymous No.3333909]

I need to rework Major Kalkoon's design, they're all inspired off European birds, more or less. Tryin to be liberal with the helmet designs and not takin into account visibility and peripherals. Assume it's just magic that helps them to see everything.

[Anonymous No.3333920]

>>3333882
Ok I thought it's just the lady's character trait but it's not. Why are the noses so small in profile?

[Anonymous No.3333926]

>>3333920
Didn't think it was that small, guess I'll have to take another look at it.

[Anonymous No.3334163]

>>3333760
I really like your work, did you have tumblr or something?

[Anonymous No.3334198]

I like the flat nose thing. It helps emphasize the form of the head as a whole. It's a common thing to de-emphasize noses in anime/cartoons by just making them small, however you like to emphasize the narrowness of them but not the depth. It's a very interesting cartooning theory you have. The thing is this community doesn't give a crap about any cartooning that isn't generic anime.

[Anonymous No.3334545]

>>3333926
Nah, I got a Patreon though, but I'm not plannin on doin anything with that until I'm ready.

[Anonymous No.3334567]

I like it, man. It has a lot of personality.
There is room for refinement, of course, but you are on the right track, don't listen too much to the people here.

[Anonymous No.3334577]

>everyone bashes /ic/ for liking anime style and at the same time compliment OP

/ic/ isn't one person you fools. You are part of it too. Liking one style doesn't mean you must hate another

[Anonymous No.3334585]

>>3333902
>>3333909
Really love the designs in these. The shapes and colors are what really makes your drawings pop. But Im also on the side with >>3333824 anon, like the face doesnt really do it for me personally. Idk id suggest try experimenting with more sharp and boxy design. Since you already have good fundamentals and your style feels very smooth and round, I think the best thing for you now is to expirament with things out of your comfort.

The style reminds me of Themrock and akron-squirrel. Very cartoonish

[Anonymous No.3334588]

Cinderella time, I gotta get to work, but here's a WIP. If you guys have any requests, feel free to make em and I'll see if I can do one of em when I get home.

[Anonymous No.3334593]

>>3333760
>>3333764
>>3333771
I was going to tell you that I thought the face was a bit too girly before you told me it was a woman
the body is extremely masculine aside from the one tiddy, if that's what you're going for then hey more power to you, but maybe experiment with making the tit just a bit more prominent, I wasn't sure if it even was a breast or just a weird pectoral

[Anonymous No.3334668]

>>3334593
I struggled with her single breast because I didn’t wanna make it too big and sexualize her. I really oughta take another look at some female athletes to see how I should do it.

[Anonymous No.3334673]

>>3334668
>big breasts equals sexalization
They're normal. There's nothing wrong with them. If your character isn't supposed to be ambiguous then that's fine but if it's a lady I think you should rethink her design, at least the put a slight emphasis on breasts and hips / hourglass shape. Doesn't need to be sexualized at all, just clearer

[Anonymous No.3334684]

>>3334673
I ain’t got a problem with em, I Just st didn’t want her to be perceived as sexualized, you know those types that get all tangled over it. I’m gonna hold my ground in her shape. She’s a puncher, and broadening her legs took away that emphasis. I understand what you’re sayin, though.

[Anonymous No.3334994]

>>3334684
Not that guy, but your girl looks like a tranny, not a girl. She looks like an androgynous hermaphrodite or something. She's got an equal mix of male and female features, and does not register in my brain as either gender.

Great if you wanna appeal to the tumblr crowd, and a gender fluid character is what you're going for.

But if you want people to think of her as female, I suggest making some changes. You can make her a buff/athletic female, but you would be wise in adding more features that easily identify her as female. I wasn't sure of her gender till you said it was a girl.

On the other hand, if your goal with her design is to confuse people about her gender, then just go ahead and keep it. Again, you'll be getting brownie points from the leftards and commies, whether or not you wanna be roped into that though is on you.

[Anonymous No.3335004]

>>3334994
>commies

why so jealous of OP, anon?

[Anonymous No.3335006]

>>3335004
What makes you think I'm jealous?

Not once did I say his stuff was bad, just that he'd draw the attention of retards.

[Anonymous No.3335008]

>>3335004
Stupid wording, but he has a point.

[Anonymous No.3335013]

>>3335004
>SJWs = Cultural Marxism
>Marxism = Communism
Thus
>SJWs = Communists
Problem?

[Anonymous No.3335017]

>>3334684
>didn’t want her to be perceived as sexualized, you know those types that get all tangled over it
That's way out of your control. I'm pretty sure whoever designed the powerpuff girls and MLP didn't want them to be sexualized, but rule of the internet that everything is and everything will be. It shouldn't discourage you from making a cohesive character design.

[Anonymous No.3335023]

according to a bunch of these comments, she has one tit? i can't even see one. wheres it?

i'd disagree with >>3334994 the design is female enough for a buff chick if you make the tit visible. kinda looks like a villain from earthworm jim/the tick/freakazoid those kind of shows

[Anonymous No.3335024]

>>3335017
This.

Not only that, but porn is essentially free marketing. WHY WOULDN'T you let it happen?

[Anonymous No.3335026]

>>3335023
He should also narrow her back a bit. Her proportions are masculine.

[Anonymous No.3335034]

>>3333902
>>3333909
>>3333926
>sexy males in armor
>design based on birds
very nice
also someone draw porn or lewds please

[Anonymous No.3335104]

>>3335017
I understand. Definitely not worried about porn, someone can draw a six foot dick up her ass for all I care.

>>3335034
I can draw some more of Swanson, I guess.

[Naypool No.3335128]

I love your style, I think its very expressive, while many other artist would rather refine and detail stiff pictures to hell and back.

Do you have a website or even tumblr, with more art? I'd love to see more of where characters designs go.

[Anonymous No.3335168]

>>3335128
I only tend to post on 4chan, and I have posted on /ic/ before, but that was years ago. I've come back a little smarter and a little more skilled than I was, so this thread was to test the waters and see where I was at.

Here's some more Swanson, the main antagonist, although really he's more of an anti-hero. Just an old, tired king who's trying to undo the damage his predecessors caused, tasked with handling an army that's grown too big and unsustainable for its own good, and doing his best to make the nation of Tartaros' inevitable downfall to be the least painful it can possibly be. He's kind, patient, and understanding, and is of course loyal to his own country. He has no choice but to continue militarizing in spite of having no money for it, because it's their last chance at making some sweet trade/political deals with the other scared nations in their favor. And Tartaros is poor in resources.

[Anonymous No.3335218]

I'll be honest, design wise and everything your main character isn't that good. I like the design of your other characters (Swanson and them) and would read a comic about them if you made one, but everyone saying that your stuff is amazing are probably all /beg/-tier artists that struggle to draw figures and never were able to move on to action poses so they're just jealous.

Your stuff is very stylized but would look good animated, which is probably a big problem for you. You stay away from more refined, dynamic stuff and everything is more stiff when you add color or clean it up. Not a bad thing, just that you're using an animation friendly style that makes it seem more lively. What's your endgoal though? Comic, animation, games? You just dropped heavily stylized stuff and asked for design critiques when the only design was the style of the main character and her face which most people hate.

[Anonymous No.3335231]

>>3335218
A comic's what I'm thinkin of. Also, I don't find the term "animation friendly style" to be quantifiable. Animation varies widely in the detail used, same with comics. Which ain't to say I'm still figurin out what to do with my lines, and how to design people to sort of go with the way my main characters look, the general aesthetic, as well as how to simplify the anatomy. Probably somethin like this.

[Anonymous No.3335236]

>>3333787
she sees your dick

[Anonymous No.3335312]

One thing I've enjoyed is figurin out other styles, so sometimes I flirt with the idea of just designin characters however, even if it's not a fit with Ginger. I want the comic to be funny more than anything.

[Naypool No.3335339]

>>3335312
Is this going to be a webcomic?

[Anonymous No.3335344]

>>3335339
Depends if I got what it takes - that's why I came here.

[Naypool No.3335360]

>>3335344
I guess I could say, starting at all is a good way to know if you got what it takes. You can spend the rest of your life trying to refine it until years pass, or just swallow your pride and start now and improve while you make your comic.

There are so many times I wish I started sooner. As for what it is now. Its not going to look like watchmen, but if your confident in your story and writing, then you have nothing to worry about, and its mostly going to be better then most of these slice of life comic at thats coming out every day.

Don't beat your self up, you gotta start rather then wishing you never did.

[Anonymous No.3335371]

The artwork itself isn't bad at all, but I really dislike the character design. As others have said, she looks way too much like a mix of a man and a woman, like some sort of hermaphrodite. I know you said you don't want to sexualize her, but that doesn't mean she has to be ugly. Of course at the end of the day the design is up to you, I'm just throwing in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.3335673]

>>3335104
her thighs look like loosely filled grain bags. compare with >>3335023, there are defined curves and rhythms to well drawn muscle

[Anonymous No.3335718]

>>3335312
Basically any of these would fit the style of the body more than the head you're using.

[Anonymous No.3335785]

>>3333926
>telekinetic floating weapons
Sorta offtopic but that's always been my fantasy weapon fetish. I had a big nut when I saw the announcement trailer for Final Fantasy XV (Versus XIII back then). Too bad the game practically never had you use those powers.

[Anonymous No.3335791]

>>3333760
go back to tumblr

[Anonymous No.3335813]

>>3335791
go back to r/t_d

[Anonymous No.3335922]

>>3335673
Yeah, I'm gettin a little better on where to place em, but like you said, there is a kind of flow to it that I ain't graspin that makes em look lumpy. I wonder how other artists do it, and if they have a certain order they draw the muscles in for major groups like the back, torso, legs, etc. Anatomy definitely ain't my strongsuit.

>>3335791
No worries, never owned one, never will.

[Anonymous No.3335936]

>>3335922
>No worries, never owned one, never will.
really? i'm sure you'd be pretty popular, drawing '''strong, independant woman''' and all

[Anonymous No.3335951]

>>3335936
I ain't hangin out at no Weenie Hut Jr's. Ginger's design is how it is for one reason - it's fun to draw. The flared white slacks and the freakish muscles and the giant swoosh in her hair, it just felt right, I knew she was exactly who I wanted for a main character, not to make a statement relatin to identity politics. If you're still not convinced, look at this.

[Anonymous No.3335955]

>>3335951
>If you're still not convinced, look at this.
yes, i can feel the the overwhelming sarcasm

[Anonymous No.3335967]

>>3335955
It's very real, my friend. He'll show his face once in the comic and then never again, because people can't handle it and get offended. His helmet was gonna get knocked off in a battle, he'd walk over to Ginger and say "I need some new armor", while several black people in the crowd recoil in shock and anger, thinking his real appearance is some kind of mean joke.

[Anonymous No.3335971]

>>3333909
those are interesting

[Anonymous No.3335979]

>>3335967
your determination to be as edgy as possible is a political statement to be proud of

if you're not here to make your anatomy less shit, kindly let this thread die? i'm basically the only one who gave you any advice anyway

[Anonymous No.3335986]

>>3335979
Hey man I liked your advice, and I'm up for improving my anatomy, it's one of my weakpoints. You got anatomy advice or resources that felt intuitive to you lay em down.

[Anonymous No.3335989]

Excellent stuff, definitely a noticeable John K. vibe, dynamic poses and an animator's touch. What the John K style lacks, is detail, and shading, which you might want to bulk up on, depending on which direction you want to pursue. Max Grecke and John Polidora have masteted this, and I would challenge you to try it out, just to get out of your comfort zone. You have a solid basis, I'd like to see how far you can push the quality.