I wish I knew

[Anonymous No.3331050]

What are some things which you wish you knew 10 years ago that would have made your life easier in art?

[Anonymous No.3331056]

Don't take people saying "just draw!" literally. You will never actually improve just doodling the same shit over and over. One week of actual studies does more than years of "just drawing"

[Anonymous No.3331061]

>>3331050
Stop trying to look for a "path". Actually think about what you need to do to improve and be honest when examining your own work. Pride is disastrous.

[Anonymous No.3331063]

>>3331050
Loomis.

[Anonymous No.3331085]

>>3331063
unironically this

[Anonymous No.3331086]

>>3331063

What about him?

[Anonymous No.3331087]

>>3331086
Loomis

[Anonymous No.3331088]

>>3331050
>What are some things which you wish you knew 10 years ago that would have made your life easier in art?


That loomis and Bridgman are hot garbage that won´t take you out of beg status and to lurk moar resources and do life studies daily no matter what.

To apply for mentorship with a good professional and scolarships because even if you want to attend school just to network is worth it when younger

Also, don´t post anything online until you are at least intermediate level and know your way around, at least not for critique, you are only making it more grueling for yourself as you can´t really critique shit from a beg/ tier artist, you can only direct them to study more foundation or simply ignore them because a shit tier piece that is fundamentally flawed to the core will not be saved with any corrections.

Any specific advice won´t be helpful when someone doesn´t even control any of the tools with which he is illustrating with. This kind of publications only attract other noobs repeating generic buzzwords and meme advice they don´t even grap anyways

You need mileage before parading around that you draw and talking bs about your passion.


Attach yourself to people who are better than you or who at least are proactive and as active as you, someone who is centered and knows his place but not a toxic dick who is always negative and crab like

[Anonymous No.3331089]

>>3331086

just a bad meme

[Anonymous No.3331090]

>>3331088
Snippity snip.

[Anonymous No.3331094]

>>3331089
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[Anonymous No.3331097]

>>3331088

>Also, don´t post anything online until you are at least intermediate level and know your way around

This is the one thing which I disagreed with ArtGerm with. He always recommended people to post their work even though it's garbage, and I always knew that this was the wrong advice since you could get socially crucified for posting cringey art.

[Anonymous No.3331102]

Nothing because 10 years ago, 2008, all there was to pirate was ironically loomis and vilppu. I had that as a 13/14 year old and didn't get anywhere.

[Anonymous No.3331112]

>>3331094

>thinks loomis will help him make it

lurk moar beg/

>>3331097
>He always recommended people to post their work even though it's garbage

maybe if you have an irl supporting group of students that are on the same boat but publicly online i don´t agree with. You won´t really gain anything except generic bad crab advice and cold shoulder.

[Anonymous No.3331122]

>>3331097
>you could get socially crucified for posting cringey art.
Most people don't make a habit of continually harping over bad art or the people that post them.
Unless it's like, obsessive autistic level.

[Anonymous No.3331126]

>It's just another Loomis shitposting thread.

[Anonymous No.3331145]

>>3331122
>Most people don't make a habit of continually harping over bad art or the people that post them.


You won´t gain anything from it except frustation and people either ignoring you or saying some garbage like "you should lurk more loomis hur dur" by other plebs. You´ll simply get demotivated and will construct a toxic reward , expectation and disatisfaction dynamic by posting work way too soon.

>you can´t really critique shit from a beg/ tier artist, you can only direct them to study more foundation or simply ignore them because a shit tier piece that is fundamentally flawed to the core will not be saved with any corrections.

Concentrate on you own work until you have a legitimate reason to share and can be legitimately helped by specific corrections and advice.

[Anonymous No.3331148]

>>3331145
>You won´t gain anything from it except frustation and people either ignoring you or saying some garbage like "you should lurk more loomis hur dur" by other plebs. You´ll simply get demotivated and will construct a toxic reward , expectation and disatisfaction dynamic by posting work way too soon.
But that's not what happened to me. I actually looked into Loomis and Vilppu. Learned construction and anatomy and my art improved. I gained a small following and a moderate flow of commissions.

[Anonymous No.3331150]

anon says something
another anon disagrees and calls him a crab

/thread/

[Anonymous No.3331151]

>>3331150
ngmi

[Anonymous No.3331163]

>>3331150

>discussions are bad, don´t discuss gaayz
>when has ever useful information and advice come out of a discussion and informed opinions

fuck off , go to reedit to upvote some shit or something

[Anonymous No.3331392]

>>3331050
Studies are importmant even though it's more work than fun. But if you're trying to get good that's work. Funny how naive a young person is.

[Anonymous No.3331398]

>>3331050
Unlearn art and relearn it but 4 years earlier so I can be 4 years ahead currently. It does take time to develop the eye but the more it opens, the faster it opens I've found.

[Anonymous No.3331572]

I wish i knew that i was not gonna make it

[Anonymous No.3331573]

>work for fun
>finish shit
>don't listen to famous people
>don't follow any rules

[Anonymous No.3331597]

>>3331572
A-Anon...

[Anonymous No.3331603]

"You will decide to start painting at the ripe old age of 25, better start now so you don't constantly feel like shit over the idea that you'll be in your 30s before you git gud"

[Anonymous No.3331605]

>>3331050
That tf2 isnt worth 3000 hours of your life

[Anonymous No.3331641]

>>3331050
Don't depend on others to think for you.

[Anonymous No.3331776]

>your style will come naturally
I've been drawing for 6 years now and the biggest flaw in my art is that it isn't recognizable. It doesn't come naturally, atleast not enough that I can use a style as a recognizable brand on my art.

>draw 6 hours a day
I've noticed that it's often shit artists that say this and they're not even studying when they're drawing 6 hours a day. You'd make more progress if you were studying intensely for 1 hour a day, just drawing without effort is like lifting a weight that is too light for you and expecting to build muscle.

>follow x instead of y resource
Always learn from multiple sources. I've gone through Loomis, Bridgman, Hogarth, Vilppu and Hampton, they all have their pros and cons and you should learn something from all of them

[Anonymous No.3331788]

>>3331050
Sleeping more hours and eating better gives you tons more energy which makes it super easy to concentrate. A bad diet will fuck you up.

[Anonymous No.3331858]

>listen to critique and try to apply it instead of going all MUH STYLE
>draw less from imagination, draw more from life
>never become complacent, there is always something to improve
>try drawing at least a little every single day
>don't throw out all your oil paints, you'll want them back one day you dumb fuck

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[Anonymous No.3331881]

Learning to copy a reference image is probably the most important thing you can learn and it should be something you learn to do if you are interested in dramatically improving.
First let me just say this as concisely as possible. If you cannot copy another image/photo faithfully, what chance do you have of giving your own concepts and ideas any justice. If you cannot copy a face and get the proportions right how will you be able to visualize one in your head and do the same.

[Anonymous No.3332039]

>>3331881
>Learning to copy a reference image
What kind of level are you now?

This seems like garbage advice desu. I don't think you have understood at all how to use references.

[Anonymous No.3332054]

>>3331050
Don't go on deviantArt.
Don't start with anime.
Spend less time bitching about how you suck and do something about it.
Finish your drawings.
Use color instead of leaving everything in lead.
Art won't be fun all the time, get used to it.

[Anonymous No.3332069]

>>3332054
>Art won't be fun all the time, get used to it
You mean art won't be fun for 90% of your life

[Anonymous No.3332083]

The box method works.
Draw from 3d models.
Also try Hampton and Bridgman bc Loomis won't work for you.
Stop spending money on art books by amateurs on deviantArt, spend it on anatomy books by the above, or official art books.
Try life drawing irl a couple of times, use photos/vids when you can't afford it.

Stop pretending "it's just a hobby" you know what you want to do, so just DO IT. It's possible.

[Anonymous No.3332205]

>>3332039
Copying is easier then drawing from scratch. You can make observations and comparisons. It's less draining emotionally and physically. Overall its the perfect way of knowing how well you handle your pencil.


I'm not saying here that you must faithfully reproduce and image to be do this well but you must be able to capture the essence of a drawing/photograph with no anxiety or frustration. This will transfer into your art as you gain confidence in your individual strokes as well as gathering innate knowledge on anatomy, facial relationships and various other shapes and concepts.


As someone whose dipped in and out of this and finally put hand to the grindstone its clear to me ignoring this for as long as I did as a core part of my learning was a mistake on my part.

[Anonymous No.3332208]

buy bitcoin

[Anonymous No.3332236]

>>3332208
The only good advice

[Anonymous No.3333103]

One doesn't require a bookshelf reading to become a writer.
Drawing is the same thing. You don't get milestones by drawing over and over - it is wasteful and redundant, you don't get milestones by reading a bookshelf of art references - just learn as you go as there is no "level requirement" before you can commit. Follow your own compass.

Art is life reminisced. Study life and you will know art but know for a fact that there are two types of people: those who understand, and those who do.

Those who "understand" can either be good or bad on their own journey to seek higher understanding, those who "do" seeks the fruit of understanding - anyone can give it to you but you will never taste the fruit of your own..

The more you learnt, the less (more) you know.
The less (more) you knew (not), the more you thirst.
Have humility. Teach yourself for there is no better teacher than the master within you. Is it dead already? Do you owe your skills? Do you own your skills?

[Anonymous No.3333107]

>>3333103
what a bunch of pretentious babble you just spouted

[Anonymous No.3333109]

>>3331050
Violence is the answer

[Anonymous No.3333112]

>>3331050
That I could learn at all. I have been wanted to since I was a kid, but always thought my lack of coordination and shit calligraphy would prevent me form even starting.

Now I'm training to chicken scratch my way to victory.

[Anonymous No.3333116]

>>3331050
To have kept myself to myself more. Going around galleries to try and do something with my art meant that it increased the list of people that want me to die an early death.

[Anonymous No.3333399]

>>3331056
FPBP

[Anonymous No.3333401]

>>3333103
lmao cumbucket is a time traveller

[Anonymous No.3334011]

im at the middle of /beg/ and intermidate but i think artbooks like loomis and bridgman feels good if you seek more art education in general because if you always do and not think maybe you will start to hate your own art and what you do because of lack of culture

[Anonymous No.3335020]

>>3333109
How so?

>>3331641
>africanartinfluence.jpeg
Good advice but everyone needs a helping hand now and then

[Anonymous No.3335037]

>>3331050
at the start i would have liked to know how much easier everything is with planning. i've gotten frustrated so often at work not coming out like i wanted because i wanted to be like an artist in a movie just like throwing paint on canvas improvising on the spot. but it's like trying to play awesome guitar solos without learning to play the guitar first. with some forethought you can still improvise a lot and get that l'artiste thing going, just the painting also looks how you want.

[Anonymous No.3335136]

>>3331056
depends how you interpret "just draw". I see it as doing studies or watching tutorials, and then applying it to your own drawings without help, and generally just being active, drawing every day. So imma have to speak against that.

[Anonymous No.3335320]

Don't be on 4chan is my defining answer, and then to have known about fair usage, life does crazy things and never turns out how you think it will or how I thought it would do anyway

[Anonymous No.3335321]

>>3335020
>How so?
Sorry, poor comment I didn't mean it. *deletes post*

[Anonymous No.3335384]

>>3331050
Stan Prokopenko