Alternative Art/Stylization General

[Anonymous No.3330560]

Last thread: >>3330526 (just kidding it's) >>3321623

>What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>Where do I go to learn to draw Anime?
Andrew Loomis's books.
>no really, where?
Y̶o̶u̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶J̶a̶p̶a̶n̶e̶s̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶u̶n̶l̶o̶c̶k̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶e̶c̶r̶e̶t̶s̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶i̶n̶.̶ Andrew Loomis
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>Community Resources
Hitokaku Index
>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #creative
>yoshikadu2011 (youtube, streams daily)
FellowBro's Book Collection
>http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
Tutorial & Reference Collection
>http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
Japanese Tutorials & Documentary
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317 (0033)
>http://iradukai.com/
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdt2GaZVIpY
References
>http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos2.html
>http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
>http://senshistock.com/sketch/

Remember to not make false threads as it's an act of a sinner.

[Anonymous No.3330565]

>>3330560
>>Where do I go to learn to draw Anime?
>Andrew Loomis's books.
>>no really, where?
>Y̶o̶u̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶J̶a̶p̶a̶n̶e̶s̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶u̶n̶l̶o̶c̶k̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶e̶c̶r̶e̶t̶s̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶i̶n̶.̶ Andrew Loomis
I'll just take the other thread.

[Anonymous No.3330567]

why do we have 2 threads faggot?

>also using the underage one as OP pic

[Anonymous No.3330573]

>>3330565

You'll be back shortly. I promise.

[Anonymous No.3330586]

>>3330560
>Andrew Loomis's books.

[Anonymous No.3330607]

Looking for some critique here, what am I doing wrong?
Lately I've been trying to get into anime style after being a more western style artist for a long time, so I've been studying a few manga artists and grinding anime heads
But every time something looks off especially in the eyes, is it just me? Pic related is the best I can do currently
Sorry for the big file and poor quality but I have to take photos from phone

[Anonymous No.3330609]

>>3330607
Needs more Loomis.

[Anonymous No.3330610]

>>3330607
Turned around

>>3330609
What do you mean

[Anonymous No.3330617]

>>3330610
LOOMIS.

[Anonymous No.3330620]

>>3330610
That's because one eye isn't even a circle and is also a different size. Good work though.

[Anonymous No.3330621]

>>3330610
I'm gonna have to side with the shitter this time. You need more loomis in your life.

[Anonymous No.3330625]

>>3330617
>>3330621
Assuming I'm not being memed here
I studies Loomis and used his method for head construction back when I didn't draw anime. But how do I apply Loomis to anime style when the features and proportions are clearly different? Aside from starting from a ball as the cranium.

>>3330620
That's what I mean with anime I get so fucking bamboozled, I'm frustrated

[Anonymous No.3330626]

>>3330610
>What do you mean

that he doesn´t know any actual advice or actual good resources except that pleb book

[Anonymous No.3330633]

[Anonymous No.3330635]

I posted these to /draw/ and got some good feedback on expressions and color, but I was wondering could I get some feedback on the design aspect of these characters? Do you fellas have any tips or/and resources on how to design appealing character?

[Anonymous No.3330643]

>>3330560
That is unusual, thanks

>>3330610
Far eye should not be wider than the closer one, also the far eye doesn't wrap around. I suggest doing the eyes ball first and construct around them.

[Anonymous No.3330650]

>>3330643
>Far eye should not be wider than the closer one, also the far eye doesn't wrap around. I suggest doing the eyes ball first and construct around them.
Thanks, usually I don't fuck that up but eh. What do you mean precisely but constructing around the eyeballs? Usually I define the shape of the head then make the eyes then draw the rest based on those.
Great work btw.

[Anonymous No.3330666]

>>3330633
cute
>>3328302
Not sure what you mean but I shifted the position of the eyes a bit
>>3328632
redid the skirt, I'll draw the pattern in a bit, thanks m8
>>3326661
https://melkosan.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.3330669]

>>3330643
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.3330675]

>>3330625
>But how do I apply Loomis to anime style when the features and proportions are clearly different?

I think he means applying how the face is laid out in relation to 3D space. Of course the proportions would be different, but the direction of the features wouldn't change.

[Anonymous No.3330677]

>>3330633
fix lefts nose. it looks quite large.

[Anonymous No.3330695]

Been drawing since May of 2017 and it probably shows, but I've been taking it pretty serious.
Studying a lot of Hampton and Loomis, as well as actual anatomy books such as Anatomy for the Artist. I've also been fucking around with the idea of doing erotic art. Any thoughts or advise anyone would like to toss my way? Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.3330699]

>>3330695
I think the vagina goes inwards towards the center, not off to the side. I think it's a pretty good picture regardless.

[Anonymous No.3330703]

>>3330699
oh my fucking god lol. As soon as you pointed that out, I instantly realized what the fuck happened lol.

Didn't keep that in mind and it looks like it just goes right into her leg.

[Anonymous No.3330712]

>>3330699
>>3330703
>>3330695
I am starting to believe that unless you're not a Virgin you'll be unable to draw Women.

[Anonymous No.3330716]

>>3330677
Is it awkwardly huge? I intentionally made it a bit larger because they're personified versions of some vidya character

[Anonymous No.3330733]

>>3330712
That's silly. If you study the anatomy to its fullest extent, you'll be able to understand any part of the body without having to interact with it.

Plenty of guides out there too for drawing genitals

[Anonymous No.3330741]

>>3330669
woah. don't be so jelly anon, cmon.

[Anonymous No.3330742]

>>3330635
What's really interesting about character design is silhouettes end shapes.
I can't talk much about silhouettes because you'd need to draw the whole body for that, but your shapes are pretty monotonous, with 5 circle based characters. The bat and the demon can get away with it cause their ears/horns change their head's sillhouettes a lot, but the bottom 3 are a bit boring in that regard.
You could prove me wrong by giving them very different bodies tho.
Overall I really like the bat, he's main character material (not a fan of his colors but that depends on the tone of your story) and the tv, even if she's kind of a cliché, she's well made
The rest is good but it could use some work

[Anonymous No.3330745]

>>3330733
>Plenty of guides out there too for drawing genitals
Are there any you recommend?

[Anonymous No.3330748]

>>3330716
It really doesn't bother me
I'd even say to make it bigger to emphasise the difference between the two
But maybe that's my western influences speaking

[Anonymous No.3330767]

>>3330745
I'll compile some stuff if I can. /aco/ normally has a tutorial thread with a lot of really great guides on there.

[Anonymous No.3330774]

reposting this horsepussy, thoughts appreciated

[Anonymous No.3330775]

>>3330767
Oh, thanks anon. I always forget about /aco/. I'll keep my eyes on it!

[Anonymous No.3330800]

>>3330716
Im the original comment poster. Havent played the game so I didnt know his nose was bigger. In that case, its totally fine.
My bad.

[Anonymous No.3330801]

>>3330774
Please use horse reference

[Anonymous No.3330803]

>>3330774
artist statement?

[Anonymous No.3330827]

>>3330803
I was horny
>>3330801
next time

[Anonymous No.3330857]

>>3330633
Cute

[Anonymous No.3330871]

>>3330650
Thnaks, I hope this helps

>>3330669
No matter how shitty life can get. I'm far too curious to find out how far I can go with this to kill myself.

>>3330741
If that is the case yes, it is not like my stuff is worth any jealousy at all

[Anonymous No.3330876]

>>3330871
>firez redlining

[Anonymous No.3330896]

>>3330876
I wanted to make this post.

[Anonymous No.3330929]

Failing from imagination.

[Anonymous No.3330943]

[Anonymous No.3330945]

>>3330742
Thank you for taking the time to write such a long crit, much appreciated anon!

You are right, I will need to expand my shapes a lot, I fall way too often to the good old circle. I doubt I could prove you wrong, my figures are horrible (pic related is starting to be pretty old now, but I have been focusing on other thinks, so I don't think I could do much better now.) I am planning to get started with anatomy/figures soon, so there should be improvement in that area soon.

[Anonymous No.3330950]

>>3330742
Thank you for taking the time to write such a long crit, much appreciated anon!

You are right, I will need to expand my shapes a lot, I fall way too often to the good old circle. I doubt I could prove you wrong, my figures are horrible (pic related is starting to be pretty old now, but I have been focusing on other thinks, so I don't think I could do much better now.) I am planning to get started with anatomy/figures soon, so there should be improvement in that area soon.

[Anonymous No.3330955]

Slay me /ic/

[Anonymous No.3330958]

>>3330567
fuck off normalfag

[Anonymous No.3330959]

>>3330876
>>3330896
>when Firez is better than you

[Anonymous No.3330961]

>>3330943
How long have you been working on this?

[Anonymous No.3330973]

>>3330959
>there will be a new generations of crabs posting Firez envy threads like Sakimichan threads in your lifetime

[Anonymous No.3330980]

>>3330973
are you better than Firez or Sakimichan? No.

[Nose "i just draw for the atte(...) No.3330982]

>>3330929
choose one

[Anonymous No.3330986]

[Anonymous No.3330990]

>>3330982
"If I'm to choose between one evil and another, I'd rather not choose at all."

[Nose "i just draw for the atte(...) No.3331032]

>>3330990
k

[Anonymous No.3331070]

practicing word bubble styles and fonts.

[Anonymous No.3331074]

>6 doppelgangers

[Anonymous No.3331096]

>>3330774
B-blog?

[Anonymous No.3331136]

I don't want to continue, but I've come too far to give up. I can't just let my efforts go to waste :^}

[Anonymous No.3331200]

Finished inking this.

[Anonymous No.3331203]

>>3331200

[Anonymous No.3331213]

Apparently it took me a month to get back to finishing this up.

[Anonymous No.3331214]

>>3331200
right lent is too large compared to the left and they are not even aligned with the head angle neither the mouth (quick to fix tho), and the clothes on the left are stiff as fuck

and the eyes are too wide for that face but thats more of a cherrypick from me

[Anonymous No.3331218]

>>3330871
fucking stop

[Anonymous No.3331221]

>>3330560
Loving that Yev-jisan loli

[Anonymous No.3331227]

>>3331203
I don't think you would be able to see the bunching of the fabric past the curvature of the arm, which is ruining the foreshortening. Cool work as always.

[Anonymous No.3331274]

>>3330610
thought you might want a redline more similar to your own style too

basically everything the other anon said

[Anonymous No.3331275]

>>3331221
>loli
DO YOU SEE THOSE BOOBS??

[Anonymous No.3331277]

>>>>>>LOOMIS

[Anonymous No.3331341]

>>3331275
Having boobs doesnt mean its not loli

[Anonymous No.3331344]

>>3331341

lol lolis am I right gentlemen?

[Anonymous No.3331345]

>>3330767
this is retarded

[Anonymous No.3331367]

>>3331341
She's clearly an Asanagi-esque shortstack

[Anonymous No.3331373]

>>3331341
is this actually what people on /ic/ believe

[Anonymous No.3331391]

>>3331373
>>3331344
>what is oppai loli

[Anonymous No.3331393]

>>3330643

[Anonymous No.3331408]

>>3331393
GIVE ME A CATGIRL GF NOOOOOOOOOWW

[Anonymous No.3331422]

Traditional sketch then went digital for shading

[Anonymous No.3331434]

>>3331213
Neat lines
Arms too short for the glasses guy tho

[Anonymous No.3331451]

How's this looking?
Should I commit to the blunderbuss or have her holding something else like a cutlass or parasol?

[Anonymous No.3331453]

yeah i'm a perv, u like?

[Anonymous No.3331461]

>>3331451
Blunder is good but the leg on the chest is wrong. It looks like the leg is broken.

[Anonymous No.3331473]

>>3331461
Hm, I had a lot of trouble drawing that leg. I'll see what I can do it make it better, thanks.

[Anonymous No.3331489]

>>3331473
If you try that pose in real life you'll note that it's impossible to have the foot still facing forward when you lift your leg like that. It should be facing away from the body, so that the knee bends the proper way.

[Anonymous No.3331543]

Okay how about this?

[Anonymous No.3331602]

[Anonymous No.3331617]

>>3331393
Since she's on perspective I think it's better to make her legs a bit bigger.
Simplify on drawing her right leg. Her ankles are wide(unless it's on purpose).
Lower her head a bit since she's laying and you're camera is a bit low. But if you have reference then maybe you can post it.
Put a little shadow on her left hand index finger.

[Anonymous No.3331634]

>>3331274
this is gooood

[Anonymous No.3331635]

>>3331617
what do you do for perspective practices?
This is really nice

[Anonymous No.3331653]

ITT: Firez btfo

[Anonymous No.3331656]

>>3330633
eh I don't know how to finish this. I'm still shit at coloring I guess I'll just leave this with fancy filters for now

>>3330748
>>3330800
no worries. I wanted to make the nose even bigger but I can't make it any more appealing in this piece. But thanks anyway for the input my dudes

[Anonymous No.3331657]

>>3331635
I practice boxes actually. Then I apply ir on drawing anatomy.

Try to watch perspective by modern day james on youtube. He explains basics of perspective.

[Anonymous No.3331658]

>>3330990
*art class gives a standing ovation as the art teacher burns his works and hands you the charcoal*

[Anonymous No.3331659]

>>3331617
it's interesting to note how much more attractive the anime face is compared to the notably western stylization on the left. It's not bad, but it's noticeably different.

[Anonymous No.3331679]

>>3331659
Regarding the face I think its about how Firez draw the chin and cheek of his girls. In my opinion its too round.
If its his style then i think he needs to refine it.

[Anonymous No.3331690]

>>3330961
2 evenings

[Anonymous No.3331701]

>>3331274
Thanks, yes it helps, hopefully if I keep grinding anime heads I will get it, when I started a few weeks ago I was way worse than this because again I never tried drawing anime. So I'm hopeful

[Anonymous No.3331707]

what to like, what to hate?

[Anonymous No.3331716]

Do i move onto lining? I was thinking of changing/redrawing the angle of the thing in the background so it's not straight-on

[Anonymous No.3331731]

>>3331716
Looks cool mate. Just draw her left arm/elbow. I think you can go ahead on the lining. Also her feet are missing. Is it deliberate?

[Anonymous No.3331732]

>>3331707
The distance between her eyes are too short. The line for her nose is a bit too strong, maybe use a thinner line for the bridge.

[Anonymous No.3331789]

Did this, any crit? I know im a pleb.

[Anonymous No.3331801]

>>3331341
She's more of a potato

[Anonymous No.3331825]

>>3331391
>oppai loli
That is a shortstack woman you nutjob.

[Anonymous No.3332105]

>>3330560
i need some critics cause i know i m doing something wrong but i don't know what

help me

[SAGE No.3332108]

>>3332105
you're drawing 5heads on youe characters, it's a proportion issue. You're also spacing the eyes too close to each other in the bottom left, watch that.

[Anonymous No.3332110]

did not mean to sage this, sorry lads; here's a bump
>>3332108

[Anonymous No.3332113]

[Anonymous No.3332140]

>>3331136
I'm a bit tired
Wasting my time with vidya
My bed relieves me

[Anonymous No.3332158]

>>3332110
anyway thanks some critics will never kill someone

[Anonymous No.3332172]

>>3331434
Whoops, thanks for pointing that out.

[Anonymous No.3332174]

>>3332140
>>3332105
>3mb low quality photos
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.3332225]

>>3332174
How about we fuck on instead?

[Anonymous No.3332233]

I guess I'll just assume everything is okay with my drawing and move forward.
Thanks again to the anon that helped me.

[Anonymous No.3332240]

>>3332233
You're welcome :-)

[Anonymous No.3332498]

>>3332172
Sweet lines dude

[Anonymous No.3332505]

>>3330857
Yeah here's progress, thanks no one for telling me it was way too yellow tinted. Sometimes I wonder if I'm actually blind.

[Anonymous No.3332527]

Maybe if I keep drawing anime girls, my parents will stop fighting.

>>3331422
Don't use the airbrush tool for shading. Better to get familiar with hard round/square.

[Anonymous No.3332548]

>>3330666
>no one checking these digits
There's no colour references of this character available except for her skin/hair/eyes.
Had to pick the palette for the dress myself, do they look alright?

[Anonymous No.3332556]

guhhhh i cant draw for shit uhghhhhhh

[Anonymous No.3332557]

>>3332527
Its kinda funny how anime artist usually draw eyebrows over hair, is it necessary?

[Anonymous No.3332560]

>>3331453
I like. More?

[Anonymous No.3332570]

>>3332557
with the limited facial cues or expressions it's usually just a stylistic choice that helps convey stuff

You'll notice that eyes are also often visible through hair

[Anonymous No.3332589]

Does this face shape and style look appealing? I keep questioning the way i draw faces.

[Anonymous No.3332602]

>>3330857
>>3332505
Massive lighting and form corrections.

[Anonymous No.3332624]

>>3332527
Blog? Cute stuff

[Anonymous No.3332663]

>>3332527
lines too blurry and pixelated.
Work on a larger canvas

[Anonymous No.3332691]

>>3331602
I like it anon! I dont have a lot of critique to offer, just letting you know I think it's cute uwu

[Anonymous No.3332696]

>>3331451
Hi shax!

[Anonymous No.3332698]

>>3332505
It looks like rigor mortis has set in on this dude. So stiff. Thats not how a head looks on a neck while laying down.
Look up pictures of actual people resting their head like that to see how it looks.

[Anonymous No.3332712]

I feel like everything I draw that ends up looking OK is luck.

Redline for any of these?

[Anonymous No.3332713]

I'm not hiding hands or feet it's just a coincidence :(

[Anonymous No.3332714]

I'm not hiding hands or feet it's just a coincidence :(

[Anonymous No.3332746]

>>3332698
I'm sorry, you're completely right. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.3332751]

>>3331617
Thanks a lot for that

>>3331679
I don’t have a style, sorry about that. I just try to do my best and that is what comes out, even if at the end that doesn’t mean much

[Anonymous No.3332758]

practicing posing

[Anonymous No.3332773]

>>3332758
Someone's been doing their gestures.

[Anonymous No.3332774]

>>3332773
not him, apparently

[Anonymous No.3332798]

>>3332773
Ya I do life drawing with a model 3 times a week
Still learning how to transfer the stuff I learn there to other work tho ;;

[Anonymous No.3332805]

>>3332527
Practicing colors.

>>3332624
Thanks! https://twitter.com/derbikerks/

>>3332663
Yeah, weirdly enough I'm working on wallpaper size. I guess my brush kinda sucks for refining lineart.

>>3332712
Anime artists usually avoid that angle for a good reason, but please give me your brush settings.

[Anonymous No.3332808]

>>3332698
>rigor mortis
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.3332811]

>>3332805
How the fuck you draw furry pics worse than anime???
Anyway, this one is great. Im gonna follow your progress

[Anonymous No.3332812]

>>3332805
Got it from this pic. I'm new to paint tool sai.

[Anonymous No.3332824]

>>3332696
Who is shax?

[Anonymous No.3332843]

>>3332698
>>3332808
Is there a career in drawing people in rigor?

[Anonymous No.3332885]

>>3332811
Please say something nice to him. But in all seriousness, thanks for the kind words. I've been drawing anime a lot longer than furries so there's that.

>>3332812
Much appreciated, dude.

[Anonymous No.3332906]

How do you guys think of how to draw characters? Like their pose or what they're doing. I'm not very creative

[Anonymous No.3332907]

>>3332906
First decide why you want to draw a character

[Anonymous No.3332914]

>>3332906
Just draw lines and see what looks good then complete the image.

Warning: May lead to off anatomy.

[Anonymous No.3332999]

>>3332885

[Anonymous No.3333000]

[Anonymous No.3333032]

made some headway today with some colors

i can already tell i'll probably be hitting this with a lot of color adjustments... oh well

[Anonymous No.3333038]

>>3333000
Keeping her human body up in that position must be tiring as hell.

[Anonymous No.3333047]

I'm trying to learn clothing folds and render them in simplified style suitable for comic

The last one seems wrong, like there's no form to it, but idk how to fix it

[Anonymous No.3333049]

>>3332589
Eyes are wacky. Work on perspective.
Really the eye sizes are so off.
Did you try flipping the image yet for a fresh look?

[Anonymous No.3333053]

>>3331789
Hands desu.
Face is kinda big too

[Anonymous No.3333055]

>>3333053
testazzz

[Anonymous No.3333056]

>>3331789
Looks like she has no hips, just waistline and then suddenly thighs. They are also a little too far apart imo

[Anonymous No.3333065]

>>3333047
Really liking the line work here anon, makes me wanna do some of these myself. I think the last one looks fine, if anything you could rotate the right shoe away from the viewer a bit, that's the only thing that looks a bit off (like the foot is at a slightly wrong angle based on the position of the leg)

[Anonymous No.3333072]

>>3332696
ya talking about the little goblin from the /tg/ quest thread a couple years ago?

[Anonymous No.3333125]

>>3333032
Lookin' good

[Anonymous No.3333135]

>>3333032
How long do you usually take per picture? I assume that blending would take the most time?

[Anonymous No.3333145]

[Anonymous No.3333152]

>>3333032
that legs looking pretty funky man

[Anonymous No.3333157]

>>3333145
You really gotta step up that lineart game. It clashes hard with the coloring style. Something something line weights and don't use black 100% of the time.

[Anonymous No.3333163]

>>3333145
your intuitive understanding of form is the real issue here. You aren't going to figure out how to lineweight unless you know exactly what kinds of forms your lines are describing. The wonkyness is most noticeable in the faces and the swords, but really it permeates the entire composition.

[Anonymous No.3333165]

>>3332824
https://shaxbert.deviantart.com>>3333072

[Anonymous No.3333167]

>>3333072
No shaxburt, I recognize his style he always draws Princess Peach.

[Anonymous No.3333202]

>>3333157
>>3333163

You guys are holding some seriously high standards for someone who's been practicing art for less than a year.

[Anonymous No.3333231]

Got a Wacom for my birthday from a friend when I expressed an interest in learning to draw.
Any tips people can throw at me? I'm planning on following the sticky but I've always been somewhat methodically minded as a STEM student and have trouble with more abstract stuff like this.

[Anonymous No.3333232]

Original character do not steal

[Anonymous No.3333273]

>>3333231
Art is taught methodically here. Some higher end stuff is abstract though, but that's just how it is. You basically just learn how to copy or draw well from Keys to drawing's tips. Then learn some basic anime proportions or just head proportions. After that you can do whatever as long as you're satisfied. When in doubt, just draw.

[Anonymous No.3333291]

>>3333232

>Original character do not steal

Relax anon, no one's going to steal that.

[Anonymous No.3333314]

>>3333232
Post that blog son

>>3333291
Speak for yourself, I'd totally kidnap that qt

[Anonymous No.3333368]

>>3333053
>>3333056

Thanks for the crit guys, i'll try to take these into account for the next thing i do. I really struggle with hips, so i will keep studying these.

[Anonymous No.3333370]

Finished. Please give me a like on pixiv if you like this. Thank you.

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=67596796

[Anonymous No.3333371]

>>3333202
in their defense, how the hell are they meant to know that. I personally think their critique was a bit nonsense, but this response is pathetic.

[Anonymous No.3333374]

>>3333370
I personally think you've overdone the lighting. The version you had before was great!

[Anonymous No.3333513]

>>3333165
>>3333167
Well you're wrong anon, I'm not him. I'm only drawing Peach as a request for /v/.

[Anonymous No.3333518]

>>3333202
Is this something I can say in defense to the critiques I get?

>hurr I've only been drawing for 4 months, why you gotta say these things to me

Remind me to never comment on that guy's stuff again.

[Anonymous No.3333546]

>>3333232
I like her a lot, she v. cute, but I feel like the tail doesn’t match her goat-like features. It looks like a giant monkey tail. Why that choice, specifically?

[Anonymous No.3333547]

>>3333546
Also wanted to ask, is this traditional or digital?

[Anonymous No.3333555]

>>3333145
Aren't you a streamer on Twitch?

[Anonymous No.3333564]

>>3331825
Shortstack is just a western meme for people too afraid to say loli because the thought police will come and get them.

[Anonymous No.3333566]

>>3333564
Its literally a short woman. Its not a kid if it has hips and tits. What is wrong with you

[Anonymous No.3333582]

>>3330990
>>3331032
>>3331658

[Anonymous No.3333584]

>>3333566
>there are people in this day and age who have never seen a short stacked woman and are so afraid they must call everything loli

Fuckers need to listen to Baby Got Back.

[Anonymous No.3333586]

>>3333047
In the last pose, the left knee has a lot more of the fabric which crosses over from the inner leg to the outer leg but you only drew lines for the outer. There are also some interesting shapes on the bottom of the left leg that you didn't capture as well as the stacking in the first image. I think some of the lines are a little thick and it's difficult to actually tell whether the guy is wearing denim or sweatpants some of the time: the cuff of the right leg at the back doesn't fall onto the leg as it should. The stiffness in denim is much different between the pair in the first two images and the third image. Look at some Leyendecker illustrations for inspiration on shape design in clothing. His Marines illustrations won't be exactly what you want but just observe his work and think about the material he's illustrating. The biggest contrasts in value or color are where you're probably going to place an inked edge.

[Anonymous No.3333618]

>>3332999
Your colors look like something from that neural network thing

[Anonymous No.3333623]

>>3333202
Huh, where did you even get that from? He's been drawing for 10 years

[Anonymous No.3333626]

[Anonymous No.3333630]

Crit pleas

[Anonymous No.3333632]

How do you actually use Loomis ?
The mannequins construction lines are not helping me drawing a good looking pose. Do I have to do those dreadful studies by looking at references ?

t. braindead corporate drone pretending to draw

[Anonymous No.3333634]

>>3333370
>stellar lineart
>starts coloring
>fucks up everything

[Anonymous No.3333640]

>>3333032
Godshot?

Is this an original or is the girl from somewhere?

[Anonymous No.3333666]

Please tell me what's wrong

Besides the hand which I'm still struggling with

[Anonymous No.3333676]

>>3333032
You still haven't noticed that the rifle isn't straight and it wouldn't actually function with the bore being bent so much that the chamber isn't even aligned. Scope is also basically unusable with how far from the cheek position it is, and there isn't even a rear sight. Hell, to be more of a dick, the scope isn't even mounted laterally centered according to what the ellipse is indicating, and the scope is also bent.

Do a quick design mockup of the rifle and look at real SMLE's with scopes on them.

Also I can already tell now but your value range will be too narrow in the final piece. Color's not what you need to be looking at: color is not bad IMO. It barely reads from the thumbnail, so it's more of a value issue.

[Anonymous No.3333680]

>>3333632
You use Loomis to understand the principal concepts behind constructing the human form from abstracted shorthand. His work is a good introduction point, it's up to you to understand the concepts he's teaching, and understand them, then adapt them. Study weak points of your construction using reference and your knowledge of anatomy, developing a method of construction you can reliably reproduce and understand.

[Anonymous No.3333682]

>>3333666
Take some reference for the right shoulder, trapezius and neck. Assume the same pose and you will figure out why the left hand looks so wrong.

[Anonymous No.3333746]

>>3333370
>no astolfu
SHIG

[Anonymous No.3333756]

give pose to draw my waifu

[Anonymous No.3333759]

>>3333546
Oh well, I tried

>>3333314
https://twitter.com/orenjipiiru

>>3333546
She's actually based off the results of a series of polls. I wanted to try something different so I had people vote for various features and this is how it turned out. That and I like thick tails.

>>3333547
Digital

[Anonymous No.3333820]

>>3333623
lol his name is wang

[Anonymous No.3333847]

>>3333135
10 hours on average. Rendering takes the longest as you could imagine.

>>3333640
Lee-Enfield from Girls Frontline

>>3333676
Not sure why you'd think giving critique is being a dick as that's the primary purpose of this board lol. Yeah, I did the scope at like 6am when I was psycho so it's definitely not right. I think I'll just paint a different one and move it along with the other alignment problems.

Value range isn't a concern for me right now, background's still not figured out so the vast majority of colors here are midtones and I generally leave the strongest light for the last pass.

[Anonymous No.3333883]

How do I get better lineart? Even when using a stablizer my lines come out wobbly. There's not much blending from thin to thick either.

[Anonymous No.3333888]

>>3330871
fucking hell firez, your shit is bad. stick to your own garbage. you probably need redlines more than the anon you tried to ~correct~

[Anonymous No.3333912]

>>3333888
I can almost taste the salt.

It is also pretty hilarious considering how humble he behaves

[Anonymous No.3333922]

>>3330871
>>3330610
w

[Anonymous No.3333923]

>>3333626
uwu! did you make the loli in the OP?
can u be fren?

[Anonymous No.3333928]

>>3333163
All i can advice is stick to finding your style. You don't have a definite tech(u)nique though your color theory seems fine at least.
The main problem is your lines aren't that smooth and I can feel too much sharpness on all edges. Try to use a smaller canvas and play with different kinds of material (like soften those flower petals).
You also need to learn to line weight. I know how but I won't tell it :^)
It's up for you to figure it out on your own

[Anonymous No.3333938]

>>3333923
I did make the loli in the OP

[Anonymous No.3334005]

>>3332140
>>3331136
these are nice
good sketches

[Anonymous No.3334010]

>>3331656
>>3332527
>>3332712
p cute senpai

[Anonymous No.3334023]

>>3333922
welcome to EB games

[Anonymous No.3334134]

>>3333666
The arm looks like its made out of clay. Too skinny and bendy.

[Anonymous No.3334136]

>>3334023
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.3334220]

>>3334136
NECK TOO LONG

[Anonymous No.3334221]

[NoseBro No.3334222]

>>3334220

[Anonymous No.3334237]

>>3333232
The expression is rich and cute!

I'd like to draw a cute picture
It is difficult to make you feel cute ...

[Anonymous No.3334241]

Probably should have posted here first.
Oops.

[Anonymous No.3334242]

>>3334221
you have made it..

god youre so good im hella jealous

[Anonymous No.3334257]

>>3334242
Nope not yet. I eventually need to move on to poses in crazier perspectives. then actually have backgrounds. Before all of that tho I gotta fix my dang faces.

[Anonymous No.3334276]

>>3331074
Noice. You've got really cool techy linework.
>>3331136
Good stuff. Love the simple lines and bold shadow shapes.

[Anonymous No.3334289]

>>3334237
Cute catgirl, do you have any blog?

[Anonymous No.3334294]

>>3334237
Thanks! I think the girl you drew is pretty cute. Please keep working hard.

[NoseBro No.3334297]

>>3334241
sticky. beginner thread.

[Anonymous No.3334328]

>>3333618
>tfw gonna get replaced by AI

>>3333202
>>3333623
AHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.3334334]

>>3330560
There is barely any comics or western art-style influence in this thread!!!!

I'll have to punish you all by posting great covers of series that inspire me

Today you will have a dose of the Street Fighter VS Darkstalkers comic series

(1/28)

[Anonymous No.3334335]

>>3334334
(2/28)

[Anonymous No.3334336]

>>3334335
(3/28)

[Anonymous No.3334337]

>>3334336
(4/28)

[Anonymous No.3334338]

>>3334337
(5/28)

[Anonymous No.3334340]

>>3334338
(6/28)

[Anonymous No.3334341]

>>3334340
(7/28)

[Anonymous No.3334342]

>>3334341
(8/28)

[Anonymous No.3334343]

>>3334342
(9/28)

[Anonymous No.3334344]

>>3334340
Why are you spamming this? First of all it's all basically still anime since it's all based on Japanese games and essentially is styled the same. Secondly this thread is for getting critiques on your own work not general art sharing.

[Anonymous No.3334345]

>>3334343
(10/28)

I feel it would be a dump too long so I'll leave it at there

Don't wanna spam this thread

[Anonymous No.3334348]

>>3334345
>Don't wanna spam this thread
You already did, with completely off topic posts.

[Anonymous No.3334349]

>>3334344
To inspire anomalous and I would disagree is anime.

I would agree is westaboo though

[Anonymous No.3334350]

>>3334348
oh fuc

[Anonymous No.3334353]

Holy shit, PLEASE take that crap to a different thread.

[Anonymous No.3334358]

>>3334353
posts too old

[Anonymous No.3334361]

>>3334289
Because I am doing only small, I do not have a website or anything else
Thanks!
>>3334294
Let's keep on with each other!
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.3334362]

>>3334328
I just realized that I FORGOT THE TAIL!!! NOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.3334370]

>>3331602
Saw you on /jp/

[Anonymous No.3334380]

>>3334362
Pretend his leg is a tail

[Anonymous No.3334391]

>>3334362
why are you so obnoxious?

[Anonymous No.3334406]

>>3334221
very nice
now draw steve cucking creeper

[Anonymous No.3334410]

So what happened to Jace, did he kill himself? Not even talking shit, I loved the guy and hope he comes back but him being dead or institutionalized is more likely.

[Anonymous No.3334415]

>>3334358
I love Darktalkers and Street Fighter, consider me inspired.

[Anonymous No.3334455]

>>3333666
here's a redline, devtrips

[Anonymous No.3334459]

>>3334241
Fundies first

[Anonymous No.3334463]

>>3334455
fingers too short

[Anonymous No.3334467]

How do a lot of you make your lines so appealing? My linework is so dead digitally.

[Anonymous No.3334469]

>>3334467
Post it

[Anonymous No.3334471]

>>3334467
are you asking someone specific or just in general?

[Anonymous No.3334510]

>>3333032
>copied rei style
>splash art composition
>fucked up anatomy

[Anonymous No.3334527]

>>3334467
You can post a sample of your usual lineart.

[Anonymous No.3334612]

>>3334134
I had a feeling, I tend to draw arms too thick so I might've gone in the other direction.

>>3334455
Rad, thanks a bunch! Also I've seen a few of your redlines now, I really like your style.

[Anonymous No.3334665]

I know Slugbox is super hated here and I can understand that but... can anyone help me identify brushes used here or layer fusion modes, please?

I'm 100% sure it's Manga Studio 5.

[Anonymous No.3334786]

>Jannie deleted that one Comic and animation thread thingie vs weaboos
Probably for the best really. That one weaboo guy was such a piece of shit
https://boards.fireden.net/ic/thread/3334020/#3334418
>Yeah there can be good artists but they are not cute so they are not really good desu

[Anonymous No.3334799]

>>3334786
Weird, I wonder why it was deleted.

[Anonymous No.3334889]

this is what it looks like when my dick draws
anatomy pointers more than welcome

[Anonymous No.3334923]

I managed to strike a pose with Loomis mannequin.
How many centuries before GMI ?

[Anonymous No.3334928]

>>3334923
Where is the pelvis?

Is supposed to be as broad as the shoulders

[Anonymous No.3334929]

>>3334665
I'm guessing he used a round brush set to opacity/density + a soft-edged brush + a blending brush to smooth out transitions.

As for the layer modes he used, it's hard to tell. He might be using overlay to darken the shadow area, or he could be painting directly with the shadow color, who knows.

[Anonymous No.3334953]

>>3334889
your dick likes men?

[Anonymous No.3334956]

>>3334953
we can all draw our own conclusions

[Anonymous No.3334971]

>>3334956
>we can all draw
nah

[Anonymous No.3335015]

>>3328287

Anon are you using a special brush to make it look like pencil or something?

[Anonymous No.3335018]

>>3334928
I dunno. Did you see it ? Maybe I dropped it somewhere.

[Anonymous No.3335064]

trying to find an inking workflow I like

[Anonymous No.3335085]

Had a lot of fun with this one, tried to keep a lot of things in mind as far as facial construction goes, but hit me with that critique.

[Anonymous No.3335093]

Had a lot of fun with this one, tried something quite different. I don't think it looks too horrible, but all critique welcome.

[Anonymous No.3335148]

Does her back looks right?

[Anonymous No.3335150]

>>3334889
pic

also look up references for muscles
>>3334971
kek

[Anonymous No.3335153]

>>3335150
ah shit nice, thank you
I gotta stop trying to fudge things from imagination and actually get some refs

[Anonymous No.3335158]

>>3334665
Why is Slugbox super hated ?

[Anonymous No.3335177]

>>3335158
literally who

[Anonymous No.3335181]

>>3335148
The face and the side boob are fucked up

the muscles in the back are lright though

[Anonymous No.3335182]

>>3335148
>>3335181
oh also the neck is thin af

the head was lacking volume

and the boob was just hanging way too low

you should use references if you are not sure

[Anonymous No.3335188]

>>3335064
niceou

[Anonymous No.3335198]

>>3335181
>>3335182
Thank you, im gonna check this out. And yeah im trying to learn to use references as much as i can.

[Anonymous No.3335222]

I saw one of you faggots shittalking lola xoxo in some other thread I know he browses this general

[Anonymous No.3335224]

>>3334341
>Robaato

[Anonymous No.3335228]

>>3335224

[Anonymous No.3335241]

>>3335228
Get some higher art standards.

[Anonymous No.3335244]

>>3335241
Post what you would call good art so I can call it shit fgt

[Anonymous No.3335247]

>>3335244

[Anonymous No.3335248]

>>3335241
>specifically pointing out the black guy
and
>>3335244
stop spamming

I'm confused why you're even posting at all.

[Anonymous No.3335250]

>>3335248
post

[Anonymous No.3335252]

>>3335250
oh right, do whatever you want this thread is reaching bump limit anyway

[Anonymous No.3335254]

>>3335252
Thee couldst has't did prevent this, thee couldst has't not given me (You)s...

But thee didst concluded, be it, anon thee might not but visage the most'r thee've did create!

[Anonymous No.3335258]

>>3335254
You...posted one of my fav anime....I love you. I really do. Almost creepy, though.

[Anonymous No.3335273]

>>3335188
thanks

[Anonymous No.3335369]

[Anonymous No.3335387]

>>3335369
why are her tits coming out of her sternum

[Anonymous No.3335393]

Can I post porn here? First time I'm trying to draw something lewd.

Is the composition/angle appealing?

[Anonymous No.3335400]

>>3335393
I mean, you can post porn here but try not to multipost unless you have a reason for it.

[Anonymous No.3335403]

>>3335400
Alright, sorry. The porn thread is usually slower than all the rest though

[Anonymous No.3335410]

Photoshop ate my file again. What alternatives can I use that feel similar to it? I've been using it for years but I just can't deal with it eating my files whenever there's a power outage which happens like 2-4 times a day where I live.

If I happen to be saving when my computer dies my file is fucking dead.

[Anonymous No.3335415]

>>3335410
Clip Studio Paint.
I don't know how well it does with file recovery though.

[Anonymous No.3335417]

Hopefully the image is small enough. I tried to do a new angle and I'm not sure how well I pulled it off. If the full-colored version is difficult to read/would prefer to have the uncolored version, let me know please.

[Anonymous No.3335418]

>>3335410
When you say dead do you mean corrupted? Because I know a few programs which might help with that.

[Anonymous No.3335422]

>>3335415
I'll try it out, thank you
>>3335418
Beyond recovery, they are not even being recognized as PSD files by any program and just throw a "unrecognized format" error.

[Anonymous No.3335426]

>>3335410
>this good
>lives in a total shit place
>be bad
>live in a much better place
How to feel about this

[Anonymous No.3335430]

>>3335426
I feel glad you don't live here and I feel bad for the other anon that I know posts in this threads and lives here too.

[Anonymous No.3335431]

>>3335410
I switched to CSP after the same thing happened to me. Haven't looked back since. Also, blog?

>>3335418
Not him but can you post 'em? I'm interested

[Anonymous No.3335432]

>>3335422
I had a similar problem with an Animate file that I worked on. I'm looking for the link to the program that solved it for me last time, but until I find it (will probably take a while, like a few days) you might want to follow the other anon's advice.

[Anonymous No.3335438]

>>3335422
>>3335431
Found the link: https://www.yodot.com/products.html

I did so many things to try and fix it that in retrospect I'm not sure if this was the tipping point that actually helped. I know I used things like Winrar as well, it was admittedly about half a year ago.

[Anonymous No.3335448]

>>3335431
CSP looks promising, I don't really upload many things outside of /ic/ but I have a twitter I rarely update @halmothes.

>>3335438
No luck on my end with it but thank you.

[Anonymous No.3335460]

>>3335410
You should probably invest in a UPS device, or make it a habit to version control your files, i.e. don't overwrite, just increment a number.

Very few software suites will allow you to read file that was forcefully interrupted during save. This isn't a limitation of Photoshop so much as it is file systems in general.

[Anonymous No.3335463]

>>3335460
This is the answer. UPS devices are a lifesaver.

[Anonymous No.3335467]

>>3335415
>>3335410
newest version of CSP lets you toggle ON the file recovery feature

CSP is like SAI but with additional features of PS

[Anonymous No.3335472]

>>3335467
Oh neat, good to know. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.3335491]

>>3335460
Can't get my hands on one of those, sadly.

>>3335467
Sweet

[Anonymous No.3335504]

frick

>>3335417
I hate to be that guy, but you're in need of going through the fundamentals. The issue here is that there's so many problem areas that it's hard to address things one at a time.

>>3335093
I like the lineart/hatching stuff you got going there. Her eyes are on the larger side, imo.

[Anonymous No.3335511]

>>3335504
Thanks, it's nice to know that I need to review my life drawing class notes and review them. I appreciate you pointing it out!

[Anonymous No.3335579]

>>3335504
Playful if you're reading this, I hope you're doing alright.

[Anonymous No.3335783]

>>3335438
Didn't work for my file. Still registers it as a black square with some red bits on top

[Anonymous No.3335789]

>>3334953
Retard.

[Anonymous No.3336071]

>>3335254
These feet need to be smaller

[Anonymous No.3336080]

>>3335783
Aw, I'm super sorry. I did a bunch of different things like I said, but I'm sorry that the program didn't help you.

[Anonymous No.3336165]

>>3335504
Probably a dumb question, but would it be too jarring to have actual shading along side hatching?

[Anonymous No.3336174]

Anything? but mostly regarding clothes if possible?
thanks

[Anonymous No.3336198]

[Anonymous No.3336211]

>>3336174
How did you do it?

[Anonymous No.3336214]

>>3336198
>>3336198
Neck is really fucked and I'm not sure what you were thinking when you made the trapezius bulge out like that on her right shoulder. The entirety of the upper torso is fubar.
You should read Hampton's figure drawing book. He goes through a lot of basics of anatomy and muscle structure.

[Anonymous No.3336272]

>>3336214
I wasn't thinking.
RIP

[Anonymous No.3336431]

new thread >>3330560

[Anonymous No.3336440]

>>3336431
new thread >>3336421

[Anonymous No.3336595]

>>3336165
I'd say not necessarily, but you have to treat it like an extra layer of shadows, so at most you'd just be shading the neck in your instance.

[Anonymous No.3336972]

>>3335177

Some furry dickhead who draws whatever is popular and makes bank. Super shady too. Has to tried to tamper with the relationship of a friend multiple times.

[Anonymous No.3337240]

>>3336972
But I've literally only seen him draw his own OCs. Can't say anything about his relationships with other people though