/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3313011]

what carefully thought out emotions and mindblowing message is behind this piece?

[Anonymous No.3313014]

>>3313011
Sunlight is good for your health.
Also something about nature, but I'm not Socratees, so I dont know.

[Anonymous No.3313015]

>>3313011
not every piece of art has to have a meaning you tard. Not gonna make it

[Anonymous No.3313016]

>>3313011
why does /ic/ shit on artist who are 1000x better than them? It's like you all get a boner when you spot a mistake in a professional artists piece.

[Anonymous No.3313017]

>>3313011

>"I like boob elves"
>"also I got good from drawing boob elves instead of shitposting on /ic/ like OP"

[Anonymous No.3313020]

Those are donne long legs

[Anonymous No.3313022]

>>3313017
Yep. This message is relatable. Which is main attribute of most messages

[Anonymous No.3313023]

>>3313016
>>3313015
im not saying the rendering is bad. But it just tells me nothing. Like why does it even exist. Its just plain boring elf girl, cute animal. model high thighs. Not a single spot of creativity, just plain rendering all over. I just dont get it.

[Anonymous No.3313025]

>>3313023
But do you spot the hamster?
Do you get the hamster?
Now you see my point?

[Anonymous No.3313027]

>>3313023
Mona Lisa smt

[Anonymous No.3313034]

>>3313023
It's cool looking, that's why it was made. I like it

[Anonymous No.3313040]

>>3313023
it's pleasing to look at
go read an essay

[Anonymous No.3313046]

>>3313023
You just found out what the difference between high art and low art is, congrats.

[Anonymous No.3313079]

>>3313023
you're not nearly as clever and insightful as you believe. go live a little. but for now, realise that you are stupid and have much to learn. it's ok. it's much better that you realised this now, than went on any longer living in ignorance.

[Anonymous No.3313081]

>>3313023
it could be a character design, study, sketch, etc. Lack of creavity are those who do realism drawings on instagram, now thats lack of creativity. Post your work and lets see your amazing creative and rendering skills.

[Anonymous No.3313083]

>>3313011
Legs 2 long

[Anonymous No.3313084]

>>3313011
Elves are 80% legs and have ugly, Korean faces.

[Anonymous No.3313092]

>>3313011

It's about appealing to a certain crowd and making $$$.

[Anonymous No.3313094]

That image is delicious, so I guess 'deliciousness' is what the artist was looking for

[Anonymous No.3313095]

>>3313016
Because mediocre people do this to feel better about themselves, instead of looking up to the greats, instead they try to put them down, try to make them get lower and lower until they get non their level.

[Anonymous No.3313102]

>>3313020
>>3313083
>>3313084

But some women have very long legs...

[Anonymous No.3313104]

>>3313023
The message is that formulas are easy and safe for making money. Innovation is difficult and risky. If you don't like it, go be a revolutionary

[Anonymous No.3313108]

>>3313104
Stop pretending that is easy to do just because its not something completely different

Anyone can think of new ideas and scenes, but few have the execution skills to do a good job with them

[Anonymous No.3313115]

>>3313108
This. Half of ic can’t finish a sketch

[Anonymous No.3313118]

most triggering thing about this piece is the cape blowing in the wind while the hair is static

[Anonymous No.3313119]

>>3313102
It's also an anime thing to give women long legs, most of you NGMIs ignorantly use Loomis proportions so your women end up like dumpy midgets and then you whine and say "Why can't I do anime?"

[Anonymous No.3313124]

>>3313023
Looks like an illustration of a fairly generic but guess cheerful character.

I assume it exists because someone wanted it to, what I don't understand is if you really don't get it then why ask? You know what it is and it dosen't appeal to your refined palette. Move on with your life.

[Anonymous No.3313154]

>>3313118
Cape yanked by the thread. There is no wind

[Anonymous No.3313155]

>>3313115

[Anonymous No.3313163]

>>3313023
>it has to have some convoluted deep meaning or else it's pointless
>the absolute state of /ic/

[Anonymous No.3313164]

>please draw a ranger with lots of nature motifs

[Anonymous No.3313245]

>>3313155
>didn't bother getting rid of the white around the edges
case and point

[Anonymous No.3313263]

>>3313163
theres a difference between convoluted deep meaning and something mildly interesting

[Anonymous No.3313267]

>>3313163
>it has to have some kind of meaning or else it's pointless
He's not wrong. Too bad he was being a pretentious ass about it though.

[Anonymous No.3313288]

>HEALTHY legs
>tiny afterthought feet
>bird shaped squirrel

[Anonymous No.3313354]

>>3313011
Elves must be subjugated.

[Anonymous No.3313369]

>>3313011
>>3313023

I understand exactly what you're getting at and immediately felt a bit defensive, because it hit a nerve in the right way. You hear about guys here grinding out technical skills for so many hours, yet they forget what they're even doing it for. Wondering why artists equally skilled to OP get out-succeeded by artists who aren't half as "gud" but make cutesy stuff with wacky expressions and jokes. It's because people like a good story, and that applies to pictures too.

[Anonymous No.3313370]

>>3313011
generic fantasy combined with kawaii girls is literally the dark souls of art

[Anonymous No.3313388]

>>3313011
thicc thighs save lives.

[Anonymous No.3313523]

>>3313011
chances are the artist got paid to do this, you dumb crab. If he wasn't, then he probably did it as a portfolio piece to show off his skills.

[Anonymous No.3313532]

>>3313011
People here will not acknowledge that it's bad, since that would automatically mean that they and their work are absolutely terrible.

This is a generic korean concept character, there are around 5 well known korean artists who work in this exact same style, sometimes can't even been distinguished between each other, that's their school of teaching.

[Anonymous No.3313540]

>>3313532
you can't acknowledge it's bad when it objectively isn't bad. You can only acknowledge that it doesn't suit your personal taste and what you expect out of a character design.

[Anonymous No.3313553]

>>3313532
So by your own logic if you think it's bad, then that automatically means you can do better? Goes without saying I highly doubt that.

[Anonymous No.3313630]

>>3313023
im not saying your life is bad. It just tells me nothing. Like why do you even exist. you are just plain boring anon.

[Anonymous No.3313633]

>>3313011

He's good, very good. Anyone who says otherwise is a crab. Not exactly my cup of tea design wise but he is full on professional level no doubt about it.

[Anonymous No.3313635]

>>3313023
crabs be crabbin

[Anonymous No.3313644]

>>3313011
what carefully thought out emotions and mindblowing message is behind this piece?

[Anonymous No.3313655]

>>3313023
Its a generic piece of pussy drawn in easy ass perspective done for money. Its critique is triggering all the eternally mediocre peasants who equally have no ambition or rage.

[Anonymous No.3313656]

>>3313011
The squirrel sits on her hand, lured by her beauty and gentle demeanor, but entirely unaware that she hunts his kind for food and for fun.

>Never trust anybody.

[Anonymous No.3313660]

>>3313288
You can see the artist is a leg fetishist. I can tell because of the pixels, and being a leg fetishist myself.

[Anonymous No.3313662]

>>3313644
Pussies get women across all sort of difficulties, including the laws of optics.

[Anonymous No.3313664]

>>3313011
it looks fine

[Anonymous No.3313667]

>>3313011
The message is: I'm drawing what I like because I can.

[Anonymous No.3313669]

>>3313656
Nice observation

[Anonymous No.3313672]

>>3313660
"Leg fetish" isn't a thing. It's called being a fucking white male

[Anonymous No.3313673]

>>3313672
the artist in OP is korean.

[Anonymous No.3313675]

>>3313011
I absolutely love the values and colors in this illustration. I'm not crazy about the face, but God damn if it's not visually pleasing to the eye. That contrast just POPS.

[Anonymous No.3313677]

>>3313673
Well it's a fetish in his case then

[Anonymous No.3313678]

>>3313011
the rendering of the shirt is my favorite part. also the legs. the little golden designs looks exactly like the style at least 3 other korean artists I know would do it.

[Anonymous No.3313703]

>>3313655
>mediocre
I find it funny how dunning krugers like you keep throwing this word around when you know very well you couldn't do anything near that quality even if your fucking life depended on it. Forget "difficult" perspective and ambituous, super creative ideas for once, you can't do any of that shit either. Just do something simple like that image but do it with the same attention to detail and level of skill and then we can talk again about mediocrity.

[Anonymous No.3313716]

>>3313703
I think he was saying that it triggers the eternally mediocre crabs. dunno tho, it was worded weirdly

[Anonymous No.3313717]

>>3313553

He's implying that people here draw in the same plastic and uninspiring way, not that criticism in general =/= superior

[Anonymous No.3313823]

>>3313023
You are right. It's just a nicely rendered cute elf with long legs talking a walking in the sun.

[Anonymous No.3313844]

>>3313023
This is your brain on critical theory

[Anonymous No.3313927]

>>3313672
Fetish doesn't mean you just like a thing, it means you're more or less obsessed with this one particular thing.

[Anonymous No.3313943]

>>3313927
I don't say that blacks have an ass fetish just because all they think about is big booty bitches

[Anonymous No.3314479]

>>3313672
I can’t orgasm from vagina easily. Focusing on the legs, though… I’d rather have a wank touching a leg up than fucking the pussy.

So yeah, I’m a fetishist.

[Anonymous No.3314520]

>>3313023
while this piece may be generic as hell and boring to you, for the 14 year old that made it it was likely hugely important to them. not artistically because it's trashy digital blend by formula, but maybe as a personal achievement and the feel of bringing a fantasy concept to life.

[Anonymous No.3314700]

>>3314520
Why do dunning krugers like you always backhand insult themselves when they write their snobby drivel? If a 14 year old would have the skill and draftmanship to paint the OP image, then what chance in hell does someone like you have to ever make it as an artist?

[Anonymous No.3314722]

>>3314700
painting by formula isn't hard once you've memorized the process enough. perhaps you should look at art outside of your classical training school and get a sense of what has been happening in the last 100 years. and yeah, insulting me doesn't contribute to your argument.

>like you always backhand insult themselves when they write

[Anonymous No.3314727]

>>3313011
The emotions are fondness, joy, care, aspiration to be as joyful and healthy and carefree as her
The message is to be cozy, comfy, enjoy cute things, enjoy escapism but apply the messages you learned and energy you built up from creative and fantasy outlets in the real world, try to embody the ideals of your hero, be it brutal and barbarous Conan or svelte, confident and feminine elf girl, use these ideals to lift yourself up

In a way it's high art, since it elevates the human condition. I like it.

[Anonymous No.3314746]

>>3314722
Anon, you and I both know that you can't do anything even remotely close to that level of skill, no matter how hard you tried. I'm not insulting you, I'm just stating an obvious fact. You are in no way qualified to make a comment regarding how difficult or easy you think it is to create something like that, because you can't do it. You are completely talking out of your ass without any shred of empirical evidence.

[Anonymous No.3314750]

>>3314746
>kid autistically practices opening cans with his teeth
>does it for years
>world record for opening cans with teeth
>>You are in no way qualified to make a comment regarding how difficult or easy you think it is to create something like that, because you can't do it.

[Anonymous No.3314813]

>>3313011
the thing is. It's not supposed to be art but a product.

when i go to ikea i don't demand that there is a deep meaning behind the chair i bought. What i need is a well designed chair that looks nice and functions well.

Illustrations like this aren't meant to make you feel anything. It's just a product to be sold and as such it's perfectly fine.

Not everyone wants to do art. Some are perfectly content to master a craft to be sold as a product and there is nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.3314824]

>>3314750
holy shit you're a special type of faggot aren't you

[Anonymous No.3314829]

>>3314824

[Anonymous No.3314832]

>>3314750
I don't get it. You mastered opening cans with your teeth or what? I'm genuinely confused, English is not my first language.

[Anonymous No.3314853]

>>3314813
I agree with you for the most part, but you making it sound like people who do art and people who do products are different species. Artist has to eat. Not everything he does should be art. I bet those who we now consider to be masters have done tons of generic shit for money.

[Anonymous No.3314865]

>>3313011
The message in visual communication doesn't need to be grandiose. Some times all a piece is saying is "this chick is hot yo". What's important is for an artist to convey his mesage clearly and intentionally with all the tools available to him.

[Anonymous No.3314874]

>>3314853
>people who do art and people who do products are different species.

because they are. if you make art for the purpose of earning money it becomes a very different thing. it's called a job.

that said, you can still make money from art and not have it be a job.
>make art for art purposes.
>allow people to buy it.
>if they don't, whatever.
>if you can't survive, you get a job.

[Anonymous No.3314883]

>>3314853
oh i didn't mean he can't do art nor that both are incompatible.

What i mean is that this piece that op has posted wasn't intended as art.
I don't know the artist and maybe he tries to explore paintings in his personal work.

But the thing is...when you work for somebody else. The art part isn't what's demanded most of the time.

[Anonymous No.3314893]

>>3314874
I dunno, many "art for art" sake images seem self-important and ultimately hollow. Commercial art has a certain degree of honesty and humbleness that is often times sorely lacking in fine art. I prefer art from artists who don't smell their own farts quite as much as fine artists tend to do. Plus, if you want to see technical mastery these days outside of flower vases and naked people, you pretty much have to look at commercial art.

[Anonymous No.3314895]

>>3314750
i used to make shit analogies thinking I was clever, too

[Anonymous No.3314897]

>>3314883
Yeah I kind of knew what you meant, just wanted to clearify.
>>3314874
>because they are.
No thay are not, stop being so pretentious. Nothing stops generic concept artist №859463 from doing something, that can be considered "art" if he has enough skill.
>if you make art for the purpose of earning money it becomes a very different thing. it's called a job.
Sistine Chapel ceiling, ever heard of that one?
>you can still make money from art and not have it be a job
If you think you can make money off art without doing it "for the purpose of earning money" at least half of the time, you are delusional.

[Anonymous No.3314899]

>>3314897
>clarify
>they

[Anonymous No.3314967]

>>3313011
Yeah right, if it was naked greek hero n°29394 or the virgin Mary then it would have been considered a beautiful example of classic art by the old masters.

[Anonymous No.3315012]

>>3314967
Those subjects had actual spiritual and philosophical significance to their creators

[Anonymous No.3315017]

>>3313011
i know the op is a shitpost but there really are guys out there who draw like shit and dont bat an eye to well painted elf thots while talking about stupid shit like a "deeper meaning."

[Anonymous No.3315024]

>>3315017
I'm as impressed by some random stupid elf thot as I am by a Celvin Klein commercial.
Here's something hard to swallow for your gay ass: it --IS-- in fact --SHALLOW-- and has no meaning.

[Anonymous No.3315026]

>ctrl f "capitalism"
>0 results

[Anonymous No.3315028]

>>3315024
meaning and all that complicated stuff is for people who spend their free time reading philosophy books, not people who spent years of their lives learning how to draw basic 3D shapes on a 2D canvas. like who you tryna fool with your mumbo jumbo? artists draw, it's their job to be experts at drawing, leave all that other stuff to the people who are experts at it. there's never any meaning besides "I wanted to create this, so I did," so why bullshit about it?

[Anonymous No.3315031]

>>3315028
congrats on diving into the pleb side of the art world.
many painters were great thinkers. you aren't one of them.
art without meaning or concept is decoration.

[Anonymous No.3315035]

>>3315028
Edvard Munch. Topics: mortality, sex, fear, psychology, landscapes, death, youth, ...
your reaction (probably):
>"meaning and all that complicated stuff is for people who spend their free time reading philosophy books!"

this shit >>3313011. a fucking Zelda elf fanart turd. your reaction:
>"oh it's purdy!"

[Anonymous No.3315037]

>>3315031
when i exchange sketchbooks with friends, i don't go "wow theres a lotta meaning in here." it's just a collection of small ideas or notes we took. paintings and other creative projects are just those notes and small dorky ideas shoved onto a canvas, none of us are gonna make something up about how a flash of inspiration moved our hands or something.

>>3315035
i don't see anything interesting about this painting besides the comp. paintings like these are pretty boring to me.

[Anonymous No.3315039]

>>3315028
You absolute mindless minion. Artists have historically been some of the greatest thinkers of all time. The discoveries of artists through their observation of the natural world, and their enhanced atunement to the metaphysical, has consistantly preceded the discoveries of physicists and engineers by centuries.

[Anonymous No.3315041]

MUH MEANING is literally what brought fine art to be such a sad stupid joke you know? Modern art is ALL about finding something new and groundbreaking to say in the most innovative and expressive matter, so much that its decorative aspects went completely lost and it became the mess it is today.

Also I don't think OP's author had the pretense to create something like that, just a good looking piece to show off hi skills, which he managed to do. Your critique is just retarded.

[Anonymous No.3315042]

>>3315035
>Edvard Munch. Topics: whatever I was told

[Anonymous No.3315046]

>>3315039
who gives a fucking shit what artists did throughout history? i don't care what kind of person an "artist" should be or how they should think. i just want to draw a whole lot and complete a bunch of creative projects i'm working on now and others i've made plans to finish in the future. i don't want to talk about muh feelings and guys who always focus on meaning behind art are really irritating.

[Anonymous No.3315048]

>>3315037
>i don't see anything interesting about this painting besides the comp. paintings like these are pretty boring to me.
yes, i knew that. it shows in your comments.

it's very hard to explain to an idiot that he is an idiot, because of the lack of comprehension.
either you are pretty young and naive and haven't had the chance to touch a good book, or you are a helpless case. either way, painting and philosophy are interconnected, always have been. it's not anyones fault that all you look at is fanart, animu and porn art shit or whatever hipster crap it is you like.

you can't talk about the deeper meaning of a particular painting, because you lack the background knowledge and general understanding. you can't talk about philosophy, because as you say yourself, you are not interested. all of this is quite simply put: you, being proud of your ignorance and frowning on people who find it worthwhile to discuss and learn about these topics. you are the very definition of a philistine, because being a philistine also includes having contempt for intellectual endeavour.

[Anonymous No.3315050]

>>3315046
>who gives a fucking shit what artists did throughout history?
here we argue against a rambling, snotty child.
you are not going to make it, baby.

[Anonymous No.3315051]

>>3315041
>OP's author had the pretense to create something like that, just a good looking piece to show off hi skills,
yep. kitsch, shallow superficial kitsch.

[Anonymous No.3315053]

>>3315048
i didn't read your entire post because i got bored halfway but the people look like bobs, the colors aren't really nice to look at, and the houses don't have interesting shapes either. none of it interests me.

>>3315050
i'll make it. i draw a lot and improve real quick.

[Anonymous No.3315056]

>>3315053
>i didn't read your entire post because i got bored halfway

>>3315017
>stupid shit like a "deeper meaning."

>>3315028
>meaning and all that complicated stuff is for people who spend their free time reading philosophy books
>>3315037
>when i exchange sketchbooks with friends, i don't go "wow theres a lotta meaning in here."
>>3315046
>who gives a fucking shit what artists did throughout history?
>guys who always focus on meaning behind art are really irritating.


i'm done.

[Anonymous No.3315057]

>>3315053
let me gues. you are 15?
post yer werk

[Anonymous No.3315062]

>>3315057
https://gs95.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.3315064]

>>3315053
>>3315051
>>3315050
>>3315048
>>3315046
>>3315041
>>3315039
>>3315037
>>3315035
>>3315031
>>3315028
>>3315024
>>3315056

As was said before, it's a product. Criticizing something like that for "lack of meaning" is like beating a child. All this shit is nothing but an attempt to look like an intellectual. I know a way to figure out who is right though. Post work.

[Anonymous No.3315065]

>>3315064
>>3315062
We have our first.

[Anonymous No.3315067]

>>3315064
>I know a way to figure out who is right though. Post work.

The last refuge of a man with no arguments

[Anonymous No.3315069]

>>3315062
>>3315065
Also good shit anon.

[Anonymous No.3315070]

>>3315065
i'll also post some things since i started grinding in july 2017 so it's not like im bullshitting on the quick improver part.

these shitty gestures were from august.

[Anonymous No.3315071]

>>3315067
So you are pussying out?

[Anonymous No.3315072]

this was from october, it's the second digital portrait i did and i got tired and never got back to finishing it.

>>3315069
thanks

[Anonymous No.3315074]

some recent bodies from imagination, still struggling with stuff like the hips but it's a whole lot better than when i started

[Anonymous No.3315075]

>>3315070
Some of them are actually decent.

[Anonymous No.3315076]

>>3315071
Durrrr

[Anonymous No.3315078]

>>3315062
>when i exchange sketchbooks with friends, i don't go "wow theres a lotta meaning in here."
now i fully understand why you wrote that.

you know, it wouldn't be so bad, if you weren't such a little entitled cunt about it.
you can enjoy drawing without any deeper meaning to it. learning anatomy is as mathematical and theory based as solving equations. a teacher can specifically point out to you which proportions you've got wrong, if the foreshortening is wrong or other aspects.

creatively and from an artistic standpoint, your drawings are not worth mentioning at all. but here you go, prancing around with your "art doesn't need any meaning!", which completely reflects your dull, uninteresting baby steps in concept art. don't shit on a genre you have no capacity to ever reach or even talk about, while you are still in the beginners gutter.

>tl; again you dr
you suck as a /beg/er, your art is technical and shallow but you think you can discredit art with a deeper meaning

[Anonymous No.3315079]

>>3315070
you are the living proof that art education is necessary to make it in art.
here we have a "business student" with a "call to do art", much like a dentist will hang his own shitty paintings in his waiting room.

[Anonymous No.3315082]

>>3315074
>some loomis made of boxes
i bet people will love to buy your thin lined boxes on grey background

[Anonymous No.3315083]

>>3315075
nah i don't think so. a lot of them totally ignored proportions but not in a way that exaggerated the forms or feeling of the pose. also i don't remember if this was before i saw vipplu's book/videos, so i didn't really keep the "lines flowing into eachother" thing in mind. i feel like i had a lot of lines that went like ( ) during that time.

>>3315078
as long as it's cool, it's fine. concept art is just a collection of your own visual library and what you find cool anyway. there's no grand meaning beyond what you like and what you wanna draw.

[Anonymous No.3315084]

>>3315056
>Y-you just don't get it guys!
pic related is literally you

>>3315051
You act so pretentious yet you are too retarded to not understand one of the core concepts of art: beauty. It's like judging food based solely on how pretty it looks and completely ignoring the taste, yeah plating is important but you are stressing out a secondary concept ignoring what the core concept should be: the taste.

[Anonymous No.3315085]

>>3315084
your definition of beauty is linear, boring, shallow, much like your understanding of what art can be.

unlike /ic/, education is not a meme.

[Anonymous No.3315087]

>>3314874

A lot of what we consider masterful works of art today were commissions. The ceiling painting of the Sistine Chapel by Michelango was a decorative painting and illustration done on commission.

[Anonymous No.3315092]

>>3315078
Still no works posted though
>>3315083
Don't listen to those fags anon, for someone who is studying for less then a year you are alright.

[Anonymous No.3315095]

>>3315087
>The ceiling painting of the Sistine Chapel by Michelango was a decorative painting and illustration done on commission.
yeah, in your tiny mind, it is an illustration.
The Sistine Chapel took a shitload of time. There are essays on the use of the blue pigment and what it means alone. The fact that you neglect any background information, hidden meaning, references and other things that really make the enigma of such a work of art, all comes down to your shallow and uninformed perception.

it wouldn't harm you to read a book, you know.

[Anonymous No.3315097]

>>3315092
>Don't listen to those fags anon. you obviously know it all. meaning is something for old people.

[Anonymous No.3315104]

>>3315079
nah you don't need school or a degree to do art. if sinix could do it everyone could do it, and drawing's something anyone from any background can do.

>>3315082
if you want to say my drawings are shit you could at least talk about the silhouettes on my blog. i'll hopefully finish the rest and post the complete set later but you can have this one i liked the shapes on.

>>3315092
thanks

[Anonymous No.3315109]

>>3315095
>Still too scared to post work.

[Anonymous No.3315112]

>>3315092
>>3315104
>if you want to say my drawings are shit you could at least talk about the silhouettes on my blog.
nope, it's generic and not worth even saying a word about it. none of your stuff is worthwhile, i've done you the honor to scroll through your shitty tumblr. literally not a single interesting illustration. i've had students in my university who dropped out, because they did the same shit as you and were reluctant to stop drawing shit and get into art.

i'm really done arguing with kids. it's always the same. you are at the beginning of your study (if you even have the guts and the money to study drawing) and you pretend to outsmart everyone, because you've just discovered how to copy Vilppu, Loomis and all the other "color me elmo" shit. out of surprising yourself with these first, humble beginners steps, you are blinded by your own mediocrity. and best of all, you refuse to get into art history and art theory bc "it's too smart".

enjoy your fleeting prospects of becoming another low profile concept artist among thousands of basement dwellers who can barely afford a wacom.

[Anonymous No.3315117]

>>3315112
that's alright, the huion giano works fine for me.

[Anonymous No.3315127]

>>3315085
>much like your understanding of what art can be
no matter how "educated" you are, YOU are the one not understanding that art can be more than one thing and picking on some random asian concept artist for making a simple good looking illustration instead of shitting on some canvas trying to express his inner self and referencing some obscure russian philosopher. Really, fine art is a thing, concept art/illustration is something else. Hell how can you be so dense and not understand that is only natural for people to appreciate something good looking or a nice display of high skills?

Also nobody said that OP's pic is a masterpiece, simply it does well what intended to do, which sure as hell isn't being exposed alongside the Guernica to denounce the horrors of war with an innovative artstyle.

[Anonymous No.3315139]

>>3315127
>instead of shitting on some canvas
nice strawman

>which sure as hell isn't being exposed alongside the Guernica to denounce the horrors of war with an innovative artstyle.
because it's ultimately you who decides what art is "pleasing" to someone and what isn't. yup.

and you whole train of shit thoughts goes right back to this little concept art bitch of a business students' comment who thinks that he is the measure of it all: >3315017

so, who's in the right here? you guys for telling other people that some polished Zelda fan art is better than the Guernica, or people who can appreciate a deeper meaning in works of art and don't enjoy shitty fan art of Zelda as much?

[Anonymous No.3315141]

>>3315127
>some obscure russian philosopher
Huh?

[Anonymous No.3315145]

>>3315127
>instead of shitting on some canvas
nice strawman

>which sure as hell isn't being exposed alongside the Guernica to denounce the horrors of war with an innovative artstyle.
because it's ultimately you who decides what art is "pleasing" to someone and what isn't. yup.
and your whole train of shit thoughts goes right back to this little concept art bitch of a business students' comment who thinks that he is the measure of it all: >3315017

so, who's in the right here? you guys for telling other people that some polished Zelda fan art is better than the Guernica, or people who can appreciate a deeper meaning in works of art and don't enjoy shitty fan art of Zelda just as much as you do?

>spoiler:
no one is in the right. you appreciate your crap as much as you want, but don't come shitting on art that isn't just pleased with shiny long legs and a dull smile.

[Anonymous No.3315147]

>>3315127
>instead of shitting on some canvas
nice strawman

>which sure as hell isn't being exposed alongside the Guernica to denounce the horrors of war with an innovative artstyle.
because it's ultimately you who decides what art is "pleasing" to someone and what isn't. yup.
and your whole train of shit thoughts goes right back to this little concept art bitch of a business students' comment who thinks that he is the measure of it all: >>3315017

so, who's in the right here? you guys for telling other people that some polished Zelda fan art is better than the Guernica, or people who can appreciate a deeper meaning in works of art and don't enjoy shitty fan art of Zelda just as much as you do?

>spoiler:
no one is in the right. you appreciate your crap as much as you want, but don't come shitting on art that isn't just pleased with shiny long legs and a dull smile.

[Anonymous No.3315150]

>>3315139
little concept art bitch of a business student here,
art doesn't need to have meaning to be appreciated, and you don't need to look for meaning in every little thing. sometimes you see a little doodle of a dog on instagram and it's crude but cute, and that's enough. there doesn't need to be any more, or any less, if someone likes it they like it.

so stop shitting on everyone that just wants to enjoy things.

[Anonymous No.3315152]

>>3315139
>because it's ultimately you who decides what art is "pleasing" to someone and what isn't. yup.
Ah, so it's you? Sorry then. Can you leave me your email, so I could ask you if I'm wrong next time I'll see something pleasing?
>Zelda fan art is better than the Guernica
No one is saying that.

[Anonymous No.3315158]

>>3315150
>so stop shitting on everyone that just wants to enjoy things.
stop shitting on people who aren't content with looking at polished turds, sexy legs, stupid dog illustrations. you are projecting your expectations on others. the fact that you simply don't get most of what is going on in art, much like that Munch painting, shows that you have zero knowledge base or credibility to be talking in this field.
go enjoy your "happy little dog" illustrations, faggot.

[Anonymous No.3315163]

Fuck off already MOMAron. As bad as you are yourself you're not an authority on anything and your opinions are, in some instances literal, shit. You're a terrible draughtsman and a pathetic mincing queer that's unsuccessfully tried to "dox" the many people that call you out on your pseudointellectual striving stupid bullshit many times. Get a life you fucking faggot, or at least do us the kindness of going back to sucking off Chris "O'fecalphiliac" Ofili's shit-loving mandingo dick in the back of the gay brothel you call an art school and getting off this board lol

[Anonymous No.3315165]

>>3315163
ah, there he is, the Ruan Jia arselicker!
butthurt and sore, as usual.

[Anonymous No.3315170]

>>3315158
c'mon you're not seriously gonna tell me you don't find this cute are you?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXbta1uFL8I/?hl=en&taken-by=tomatoro_potatoro

[Anonymous No.3315172]

>>3315163
I just KNEW he was some sort of a local freak. Thanks for confirmation.

[Anonymous No.3315177]

>>3315170
He will. After all it's probably better than any of his works.

[Anonymous No.3315178]

>>3315172
I just KNEW he ( >>3315163 ) was some sort of a local freak. Thanks for confirmation.

[Anonymous No.3315183]

>>3315158
>you are projecting your expectations on others
You are doing the same thing though.

[Anonymous No.3315184]

>>3315177

[Anonymous No.3315188]

>>3315183
i didn't read your entire post because i got bored halfway

[Anonymous No.3315194]

>>3315177
hi pedo, glad you remember me. must've left a mark in your petty little mind.
>"it's not pedo, it's joy of the newborn!"

[Anonymous No.3315197]

>>3315194
why do you have this image saved

[Anonymous No.3315201]

>>3315188
As expected of a seeker of deeper meanings.
>>3315194
It's literally the first time I'm seeing you, retard.

[Anonymous No.3315206]

>>3315201
>As expected of a seeker of deeper meanings.
meaning and all that complicated stuff is for people who spend their free time reading philosophy books

[Anonymous No.3315210]

>>3315206
Then why you bother with it?

[Anonymous No.3315211]

>>3315210
who gives a fucking shit what artists did throughout history? guys who always focus on meaning behind art are really irritating.

[Anonymous No.3315212]

>>3315206
>>3315211
ok im flattered that youve copied my posts but just as with the artist studies i do, i like to keep that stuff to myself and not post it online.

[Anonymous No.3315233]

So what happens if you get the interpretation wrong and that what you thought the artist felt or was trying to convey is incorrect?
What are the implications of this?

[Anonymous No.3315237]

>>3313011
wher are her arrows

[Anonymous No.3315247]

>>3315233
seperate the artist from the work is my motto, anno said some controversial things about NGE, but if you thought it was cool and put meanings behind the anime, then it's not like your feelings are invalid.

[Anonymous No.3315250]

>>3315233
When it comes to "non-representational" art the subjectivity is by design so that pedant brainlets like MOMAron can be led to believe that spending thousands of dollars and countless hours getting lectured to by an aging hippy and staring at solid blocks of color on a canvas with his eyes crossed makes him an intellectual powerhouse.

[Anonymous No.3315251]

>>3313011
>what carefully thought out emotions and mindblowing message is behind this piece?

Good artwork done with skill instead of the HUGE TITS WITH SHINEY AREOLAS AND WET DRIPPING VAGINA artwork that 4chan sadfucks usually call "great art"?

[Anonymous No.3315271]

Reminder that this is what this

>>3315251

Mewling coward that tries unsuccessfully (like he is with everything else LOL) to dox teenagers that disagree with him on the internet considers good. Look at the pathetic limp-dick prick and laugh at the loser if you must, but never take a damn thing he says seriously.

[Anonymous No.3315284]

>>3313011
I bet you go see horror movies and get mad when no one cracks a joke.

[Anonymous No.3315333]

>>3315271
I think the guy was saying that it's a good, tasteful piece and not the low quality porn a lot of guys on /ic/ draw and make money off of.

[Anonymous No.3315370]

>>3315333
wew, you're right. I shouldn't post while I'm at work-I get distracted and make pretty profound errors in posting judgment.

[Anonymous No.3315427]

>>3315370
It's alright, I'll always love you no matter what.

[Anonymous No.3315459]

>>3315251
>Good artwork done with skill instead of the HUGE TITS WITH SHINEY AREOLAS AND WET DRIPPING VAGINA artwork that 4chan sadfucks usually call "great art"?
THANK. YOU.

>>3315247
very valid.

>>3315271
wrong anon, anon.

[Anonymous No.3315464]

>>3315251
On one hand yes, it's not as extreme as what you're describing. But on the other hand, it's still pretty sexually charged anyways, her short dress even suggests that she's not even wearing panties

Not that there's anything wrong with that, just saying

[Anonymous No.3315694]

>>3313011
It’s a piece of work from a commercial artist that wants to get hired to make commercial work based on their draftsmanship not some guy out to make a statement

I understand wanting to enjoy stuff outside of the norm as I do too, but if you ask about stuff that isn’t there you’re just being dense on purpose you idiot. You don’t go to Ikea and ask for luxury hand carved antique wooden furniture.

[Anonymous No.3316077]

>>3313011
bad anatomy

[Anonymous No.3317053]

speaking of korean artists

does anyone know Kim Bum's instagram or any media presence? He was the artist for Vindictus and Hyper Universe. All I can find is a website for a school he teaches at.

[Anonymous No.3317140]

>>3316077
Other than the obviously on purpose exaggerated long legs, there is nothing whatsoever in that image that indicates "bad anatomy". I know it can be hard to try to fit in, maybe next time.

[Anonymous No.3317183]

>>3315112
You dont draw.

[Anonymous No.3317184]

>>3317183
i draw everyday. three charcoal drawings and one comic draft just yesterday. just not your polished turd type of shallow crap like OP pic.

>inb4 post yer werk!!!

[Anonymous No.3317195]

>>3317184
there's no point in asking, I know it's terrible

[Anonymous No.3317199]

>>3317184
But your work is shit mate

[Anonymous No.3317200]

>>3317184
>yes i do lots of work
You dont

[Anonymous No.3317205]

>>3317200
because you know :)

[Anonymous No.3317206]

>>3317184
Fuck you and your lies.

[Anonymous No.3317212]

>>3317205
You're the one claiming to do lots of work, the burden of proof lies on you :)

[Anonymous No.3317215]

>>3317212
>>3317206
it's nothing for you crabby kids.
expressionist works aren't the kind of things you can appreciate. it's casting pearls before swine.

back to your lovely anime and porn art shite, lil children. there you will find solace for your aching hearts.

[Anonymous No.3317219]

>>3317215
I don't know. Post work :)

[Anonymous No.3317226]

>>3317215
git gud fag.

[Anonymous No.3317228]

>>3317215
you realize you're getting laughed out of the thread, right? Because I doubt that was your original pourpose

[Anonymous No.3317229]

>>3317226
i am ;)
i've illustrated two books

[Anonymous No.3317231]

>>3317228
you realize that your projection is schoolyard-tier talk, right?

[Anonymous No.3317234]

>>3317231
>you realize that your projection is schoolyard-tier talk, right?
Ironic

[Anonymous No.3317235]

>>3317229
>i've illustrated two books
Post them
:)

[Anonymous No.3317242]

>>3317229
I mean, you may be good and all, but "illustrated two books" doesn't say anything about it

[Anonymous No.3317253]

>>3314874
The art doesn't somehow change depending on if an artist sells it to make a living or just paints it for fun, wtf. People are perfectly capable of wanting to create something with the contemporary commercially popular styles and professional artists are just as capable of making their own vision a job thanks to the internet these days.

"Making art for arts sake" is a concept for people rich enough to not have to worry about the time and money they already possess to dedicate on art without making a living off it, it's ages old elitist drivel that people somehow still believe in to the point that these snobs pretending to be art experts put a different amount of value on a piece depending not on the piece itself but its and its creator's context. Wake the hell up man.

[Anonymous No.3317256]

>>3317253
stay woke

[Anonymous No.3317258]

>>3317253
pleb in denial. ofc you explain away all outliers to your beliefs to rich people and 'ages old elitists'. i bet you also hate modern art cause it's not retard friendly.

[Anonymous No.3317277]

>>3317258
liking or disliking modern art is up to personal interpretation

[Anonymous No.3317282]

>>3317277

[Anonymous No.3317288]

isn't this just character concept art for a video game?

[Anonymous No.3317305]

>>3317235
>>3317242
fuck
you,
crabbos
:)
:)

>>3317253
>"Making art for arts sake"
is a concept that has proven to work for people like Tal R, Daniel Richter and to name the most clichéd example, Van Gogh. but that is the diametrical course that people frequenting /ic/ will be able to take.

[Anonymous No.3317364]

>>3317305
bragging about "making two books", providing no evidence, and shitting on other artists is the way of the crab. dunno if you understand the metaphor my crustacean friend.

[Anonymous No.3317600]

>>3317364
so hard to believe that in this day and age, someone has worked on two books? they were commission, one with 12 b/w drawings, one with 52 full color illustrations.
so fucking impossible to believe, i know.
well, then again, to an NGMI like you (probably) it IS hard to fathom that such things are possible.

[Anonymous No.3318269]

>>3313011

thinking that all art has to have some gay ass meaning behind it and that art that looks good doesn't have it's own merit is fucking college brainwashing

visual art first and foremost should look good, or at least aesthetics should be considered first, since it's, you know, visual.

get the fuck out

[Anonymous No.3318275]

>>3313023

holy fucking shit.

this art is well rendered. there's detail. she looks good. it's pleasing to look at. if the artist didn't use some lame ass cheating trickery to create this, you can bet that they have real technical skill. that in itself is something to marvel at.

beyond the artist's (assumed) technical skill, it's just a pleasing piece to look at. the girl is attractive. everything is generally put together well. it's nice to look at.

it is VISUAL ART. you create good looking imagery to please your eyes and your brain. that is visual art at its base level IMO.

I think visual art should be primarily about visual aesthetics. I like art because it LOOKS GOOD. any meaning it has is just a bonus, if the meaning isn't some retarded fake deep shit or something. if you really want meaning, read a book dude

[Anonymous No.3318276]

>>3318275
>I think visual art should be primarily about visual aesthetics. I like art because it LOOKS GOOD. any meaning it has is just a bonus
hello, mental infant. are you +18?

[Anonymous No.3318280]

>>3317258
Did you even read the post, there was no 'age old elitists', it was ' ages old elitist drivel'. I don't think you're qualified on calling other people plebs when you deflect the argument, ignore the bulk of it and willfully misunderstand whatever you bothered to pay even miniscule attention to.

"Explain away", why don't you explain them back in then, just telling someone they're wrong without reasoning doesn't make you sound smart to anyone but yourself.

[Anonymous No.3318282]

>>3318280
all that has to be said about /ic/ plebs and philistines is collected here: >>3315056

"i don't want to hear it"
"I don't even think when i look at a purty painting"

[Anonymous No.3318294]

>>3313011
>what carefully thought out emotions and mindblowing message is behind this piece?

your typical /ic/ anon doesn't think further than that. there are no such questions.

[Anonymous No.3318295]

>>3318294

Ironically the animu pic probably has more thought behind it design wise

[Anonymous No.3318299]

>>3318295
technique wise too, look at that symbol drawing on the left

[Anonymous No.3318300]

>>3318295
>>3318299
yup. exactly what i was going for.

[Anonymous No.3318302]

>>3318300
>bait
>get's 2 (you)s
>yup. exactly what i was going for.
I know anon

[Anonymous No.3318321]

>>3318302
>i don't like it
>it must be bait

[Anonymous No.3318326]

>>3318321
more like
>I resume somebody can be this stupid
>it must be bait

[Anonymous No.3318327]

>>3318326
refuse*

[Anonymous No.3318333]

uh oh someone's insecure with their lack of skills and uses the muh message is art meme lel

[Anonymous No.3318334]

>>3318321
bait is a optimistic for how stupid it actually seems.

[Anonymous No.3318340]

>>3318326
>>3318327
>>3318333
>>3318334
it seems stupid only to the uninformed.
your definition of what art can be or has to be is restricted to your cultural exposure: animu, concept art, "pretty things" and decoration.

that's the point of the thread.

[Anonymous No.3318343]

>>3318340
your point is worthless, get a better message to argue with.

[Anonymous No.3318347]

>>3318340
i'm actually one of those arguing OP's trash isn't art. but ok m8. you clearly have a solid grasp of all the different agendas going on in this thread.

[Anonymous No.3318349]

>>3318343
can say the same thing about your shallow stance.

>>3318347
?

[Anonymous No.3318351]

>>3318349
>oh wow look at me so intelligent, everyone should draw like me

go be a rocket scientist instead of sucking your own dick all day long.

[Anonymous No.3318356]

>>3318351
>>oh wow look at me so intelligent, everyone should draw like me
>go be a rocket scientist instead of sucking your own dick all day long.
so good, it can be added to this >>3315056

you define the state of never-learning /ic/ faggots.

[Anonymous No.3318358]

>>3318356
glad to see you're sucking your own dick more.

[Anonymous No.3318360]

>>3318351
Are you saying one should draw without intelligence? If that's what you mean, that's dumb as shit and you clearly have no reason to be arguing when you're so retarded.

[Anonymous No.3318361]

>>3318360
>taking the context of intelligent too literally and playing semantics
>calls others retarded

kek

[Anonymous No.3318365]

>>3318361
>taking the context of that post as a matter of semantics
>kek
just leave the thread already.

[Anonymous No.3318367]

>>3318365
>literally begging me to stop owning him in this thread and leave

lel.jpg

[Anonymous No.3318372]

>>3318367
that's another anon now. this >>3318294 was me. get used to the idea that there are more than 3 users here at a time.

[Anonymous No.3318373]

>>3318372
no one cares

[Anonymous No.3318375]

>>3318367
>owning
you pwned us noobs that expected productive discourse. best of luck with your next 'game'.

[Anonymous No.3318377]

>>3318375
>productive discourse with pretentious meme message intelligent that never help humanity anyway

how about you go be something like a rocket scientist

[Anonymous No.3318378]

>>3318373
>no one cares
look how upset the little baby is now

>>3318377
boo hoo! mommy, they so mean!

[Anonymous No.3318379]

>>3318378
don't cry muh little baby, mommy's here.

[Anonymous No.3318382]

>>3318379
always funny to see how proud people can be about being absolutely ignorant and not knowing shit about art.

[Anonymous No.3318383]

>>3318382
wow! nice own dick sucking skills you got there babi, I'm sure you'll grow up sucking your own dick all day long.

[Anonymous No.3318387]

>>3318383
no arguments from the child at this point. clear sign of pussying out. I'm done here :)
stick to jerking off to Zelda

[Anonymous No.3318389]

>>3318387
nice to see that your pussying out skill is greater than your own dick sucking skill.

[Anonymous No.3318390]

>>3318387
bye, sad little man

[Anonymous No.3318395]

>>3318389
>>3318390
the irony of that being that you children have no more to say other than schoolyard talk. OP pic is proving that all you little moths are falling for is shiny legs and polished turds, while you take pride in not knowing shit about art in general.

[Anonymous No.3318397]

>>3318395
>I'm done here

go home and suck your own dick, you're drunk.

[Anonymous No.3318400]

>>3318397
>"I'm so upset right nao!"
>gonna say he's drunk
NGMI
: )

[Anonymous No.3318402]

>>3318400
>I'm so intelligent
>uses meme as argument
>uses :) as argument

kek

[Anonymous No.3318406]

>>3318402
>i'm just gonna say it's a meme
>not gonna argue against it
>cause i can't
>if i could, i wouldn't be such a child and say he's drunk and do all this deflection bullshit

[Anonymous No.3318407]

>>3318406
>still replying after saying he's done

is it because your ass is itchy from my buttfuck, yes?

[Anonymous No.3318408]

>>3318402
post yer werk, teenie

[Anonymous No.3318409]

>>3318408
now flash your work.