I wanna be a furry artist to make fast easy bank

[Anonymous No.3312845]

Furry artists make bank drawing tony the tiger getting stuffed, my question is what is the fastest way to start getting commissions?

I have a small following with my art already but i don't really want the two connected, is there any way of starting up a blog fast and getting commissions asap?

[Anonymous No.3312849]

start posting furryporn wherever its relevant tumblr and furrafinity (w/e it's called) are the most important ones

[Anonymous No.3312853]

>>3312849
thanks i'll get started on a tumblr/furafinity account
i'm not a furry myself so i don't know who to draw furryporn of to get the ball rolling

are sonic characters still popular? plus what do people like more gay furry porn? straight furry porn? lesbian furry porn? or should i just do some of everything?

[Anonymous No.3312855]

fair warning that every furry porn drawing after the 2nd one slowly chips away at your soul, no matter the amount of money offered

[Anonymous No.3312860]

>>3312853
Search on e621 and see for yourselves if vag or dick is more popular

[Anonymous No.3312863]

>>3312860
>e621
not sure what that is, do i google that?

[Anonymous No.3312864]

>>3312845
>tony the tiger getting stuffed
kek

>>3312860
aren't like 80% of furries gay males

[Anonymous No.3312867]

>>3312855
i've drawn furry porn to pay for some christmas gifts, i don't think it's that big of a deal especially when the money is decent

[Anonymous No.3312870]

>>3312863
e621.net, you look up by using search tags

>>3312864
true that but personally i saw some straight porn have more upboats so theres that

[Anonymous No.3312872]

>>3312853
>are sonic characters still popular?
Not as much as they where. If you're not going for irony, you have to actually be pretty good.
>plus what do people like more gay furry porn? straight furry porn? lesbian furry porn? or should i just do some of everything?
As with all porn Lesbians have the largest group, but gay men pay more and you won't be as easily lost among the crowd. Again, the better artists can ask for more. If you're not all that interested in the subject you're going to have a rough time of it.

[Anonymous No.3312881]

>>3312845
The most important rule is to build a following, not actually being good.
90% of all money in the furry fandom isn't because people want good things drawn, it's because they want it drawn be a specific person so they can be part of the club.

You really need to inflate your outward appearance as a proverbial totem for the autists to dance around, then you'll start making money.
Most of the time you just need to be in the right place at the right time.

[Anonymous No.3312882]

Furry is a fad that's on its way out, I wouldn't bank on it for money at this point.

[Anonymous No.3312890]

>>3312882
Furry shit isn't on its way out, it's just not the most autistic thing on the internet anymore.

[Anonymous No.3312893]

kys desu OP

[Anonymous No.3312896]

>>3312881
>You really need to inflate your outward appearance as a proverbial totem for the autists to dance around
Holy shit this is the truth isn't it
Not just for furry but making money on the internet in general

Fuck, I'll never make money on the internet

[Anonymous No.3312971]

so why is furry popular, and why are so many people obsessed with it that they'd go their way and pay money for silly porn drawings?

[Anonymous No.3312978]

>>3312971
I have a theory

everything that is really popular has at its core an exotic template

think ponies
furshit
harry potter

if you can easily make an oc within that context because you've got a bunch of ready made assets and choices to pick from, it's a successful formula and will attract autists

[Anonymous No.3313012]

>>3312882

HAHA no mate. Not even close. Furry isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

[Anonymous No.3313074]

>>3312971
Hmnnn it’s hard to explain, but exotic is on the right track. It’s sort of like asking “why do people pay for gay porn?”.
One reason is that they for whatever reason, like furries to the point it’s almost as much of a sexuality as homosexual is. The porn isn’t as popular as normie porn, so they pay for more to be made.
They start getting into the fandom, their identity eventually revolves around furry (like some lgbt individuals get sucked into being nothing but lgbt tumblrinas). They realize they can make a character. They realize they can pay for their character in porn. They now have a picture of their fantasies.

Yes being in the popular crowd and having Narse or Wolfy-nail or whoever draw you a pic is part of it. But honestly I think not as much as the wish fulfillment and fantasy involved. It’s like some complicated meta role play. They’ve paying for their fantasy life to be illustrated.

[Anonymous No.3313168]

>>3312845

>furry porn
>fast easy money

No. No no no. Fuck you OP. I had this same idea when I was 19. I never want to be an artist for those weirdos EVER. AGAIN. End of fucking story.

>finding clientele is nigh fucking impossible, since people who come for you for consistent work are usually the ones who start to quickly lowball you after the first few portraits and dumbass reference sheets that you do, and everyone else is just fine with the mediocre work 16 year olds do and the 16 year olds are okay with the mediocre pay because they don't pay rent
>every other request for commission is a fucking cub request. Not all of them are, but a good chunk of people in the furry community are closet pedos, especially ones who have money.
>each character is the same Peter Young (the dead one) and Glenn Keane gay love child with inharmonious color pallets that are just plain ugly to render (hurr my fursona cheetah has a neon cyan pinstripe going up her ass crack that spirals down her leg and everything else is a rainbow)
>"I'm not quite feeling this one. Can I use my revision?" after they've already made several "suggestions" for how to draw tulpa's horsecock for the upteenth time
>"hey I don't get paid until the 15th, but can you possibly start on just this reference for me and I'll pay you in full plus a tip?" (this is everywhere, desu, but it's especially bad with furries because some of them are on welfare)
>>3312855
>what this anon said, except it happened to me after the first one because it was a bara rhino that made me want to vomit

It's not quick. It's not easy. You'll want to kill yourself every single day. Furries are on another plane of weird and constantly drawing their bizarre requests WILL make you hate art.

[Anonymous No.3313174]

>>3313168
If you dont pander to furfags anymore, what are you drawing now?

[Anonymous No.3313179]

>>3312845
>im not a furry but i want to make izy money off of those degenerates!

[Anonymous No.3313181]

>>3313168 here

>>3312971
>>3312978
>>3313074
Two words: porn addiction.

They dig deep into the crusty parts of the internet because vanilla ass poundings and creampies don't do them anymore, and one day they discover a half decent artist introducing a fetish they've never seen before.

It's a cycle of novelty with no real bounds. The actual furry artists out there who are impassioned about their work "convert" would-be furs with cuteness before WHAM you fuzzy cat waifu is getting trained on by lizards and your okay with it.

People who go to furcons are at least social adjusted enough to maintain conversation with all the other crazy ass people they have in their subculture. Furcons are just a front for orgies though. Drug-fueled, STI-infused, condomless orgies. Mainly because the only way they can get it up is if they see someone in costume, and literally everyone at furcons are walking around with rock hard dicks.

This is all hearsay from my friend who's actually a furry and who's been to a con down south. He didn't go in costume and almost got molested. I 100% believe him though. He still draws furry art but he hasn't really been the same since he went.

>>3313174
Humans and (real) animals, mostly. I'm inspired a lot by anime, especially anything from Trigger, but I've taken a break from commissions in general. I'm trying to get fit and I have 2 jobs, so I haven't really been wanting to increase my workload. Currently working on a personal passion project in my spare time.

[Anonymous No.3313184]

>>3312845
You won't make fast easy bank just because you draw furry. To make big bucks you have to be an established name first. Don't fall for the easy furry money meme.

[Anonymous No.3313186]

>>3313181
lol you and your friend are idiots

[Anonymous No.3313193]

>>3313186

How am I an idiot for being disgusted by a fetish?

I've been friends with him since high school before he thought it would be cool to fuck sharks. I tolerate his bizarre behavior because when he is being fucking weird, he's still a good friend.

[Anonymous No.3313196]

>>3313193

when he isn't*

[Anonymous No.3313233]

>>3313179
uh when did i refer to furries as degenerates? it's not my cup of tea but but i have no problem with them
all i wanr is a piece of that pie

is it wrong for me to do something because i want something from them? sure but it's human nature, we all use people to get what we want.

[Anonymous No.3313240]

>>3313193
who said anything about the "being disgusted by a fetish" part being the reason why you're an idiot lol

[Anonymous No.3313247]

>>3313233
its like i wanna be a baker and make a lot of money but i dont like cakes and dont want to be associated with bakers

[Anonymous No.3313264]

>>3313168
>>3313181
How much can you make from furries if you have good anatomy/form/colors like pic related?

[Anonymous No.3313271]

>>3313168
hi eigaka

[Anonymous No.3313277]

>>3312881
Does this mean I have to be nice and engage with my audience instead of doing scummy shit?

[Anonymous No.3313285]

>>3313247
if baking was easy and it was a cash cow id do it regardless if i hated it or not

[Anonymous No.3313286]

>>3313168
>"I'm not quite feeling this one. Can I use my revision?"
Jesus christ, don't get me started on the fucking revisions.

>"can you make my fursonas balls bigger? :3"
>make them bigger
>"just a little bit bigger?"
>make them bigger
>"just a teeny bit bigger"
>make them astronomically large
>"oh god, thats too big! make them smaller"
>etc

The worst part about the whole thing is the ones that try to roleplay with you, and then find it rude when you tell them to fuck off and be professional.

They also seem to dump their problems on you fairly easily, like within a few sentences of meeting them they'll start talking about problems with their roommate/friend/gay lover.

[Anonymous No.3313287]

>>3313264
An appealing character is the most important. Also a pick like that 140-200$

[Anonymous No.3313289]

>>3313285
But being a well paid artist even if its furry is far from easy.

[Anonymous No.3313296]

>>3313233
You have to be a furry to draw furry porn, anon.
Don't worry, you don't have to fully go into the rabbit hole. I draw furry porn, but it's very vanilla. I don't take it too far simply because I myself can't stand the next step.

[Anonymous No.3313298]

>>3313168 here
>>3313264

Absolutely. The money is there if you are either A) skilled and a part of the community already and have little issue with the work or B) skilled, but have no issue with it anyway. B applies anywhere, even without furries. The main problem is that there is a glut of young artists who put out work that is subpar. Furries take what they can get though. This brings the prices down for everyone. If you can bang out a sketch every 20 minutes but you only want to do sketches, be prepared to have all of 5 or 6 people paying you 5 to 10 bucks for it and go weeks without work at times.

There are plenty of clients out there who have both taste and money to feed that taste, but what made me quit was that all of the ones I met (3 total) wanted cubs ie loli/shota furries. They usually want high quality work and will pay well into the 2-3 hundos, but it's 10 to 12 hours of demanding effort, especially when you're uncomfortable with drawing a puppy playing in feces.

My best client was a very polite gay guy. Lived in Canada. Most of the stuff he asked for was beefy horses/bulls striking action poses. Never asked for anything beyond that. 120 bucks per full portrait. No questions. No revisions. No pedo shit. Everyone else we're miles down the well compared to him. Usually took between 3-4 hours spaced between 2 days.

The money is there, and if you are skilled, can meet deadlines, and above all else set aside your moral compass, you can make enough to call it a side gig, but don't expect to get rich.

One last thing: build a persona and become active in the community. Fur fags talk. They know who is and isn't a part of their click. If you're some nobody who only made a furaffinity account last week, you're gonna struggle. Start now if it's REALLY what you wanna do it. I don't know why you would though. You can make comparable cash drawing normal porn. The audience is just less captive and requires more marketing ie you can't be a lazy fuck.

con't

[Anonymous No.3313302]

>>3313298

Sidenote: I don't get why people think they can just waltz into a subculture, shit out a drawing, and be swimming in cash. Being a freelance artist in any niche is hard fucking work. It usually won't pay your bills and it will be emotional draining since you'll usually not be completely on board with the order, and spend hours, possibly days, working on something when you could be doing something more fulfilling, let alone enjoyable.

Half of you leads will be flakes that never get past the "what are you looking for?" consulting stage the other half will request lots of work for little pay and will gladly move on to the next artist you tell them no.

Being on commission requires work. Whether or not you draw anthros is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.3313313]

>>3313264
I've never seen Null Ghost's commission rates, but I can easily see him charging 200 for regular pieces. Strong anatomy, dynamic poses, and good rendering skills do artists very well.

[Anonymous No.3313325]

>>3313286

I once was told my knowledge of color theory was lacking because this guy said his dog fursona's bright red stripes we're not bright enough.

No you stupid fuck, you wanted him in a night setting. Unless he's irradiated or bioluminescent, his fur isn't going to glow like a fucking lantern.

[Anonymous No.3313334]

>>3313325
OCs in a nutshell

[Anonymous No.3313339]

>>3313334

Not to mention their model sheets are always dogshit. They pay $10 for references to be made by a 14yo and then expect an actual artist to work off them.

OH DID I ALSO MENTION FUCK FURRIES' OBSESSION WITH HANDS VS PAWS

>my fursona has four fingers
>Your model says otherwise

>My fursona has 5 fingers
>Your model says otherwise

My fursona has paws
>Your. Model. Says. Otherwise.

[Anonymous No.3313342]

>>3313289
just be a god at art
there now your getting well paid because everyone will want your amazing art

[Anonymous No.3313361]

>>3313168
>>3313298
>>3313302

Hey man, just wanna say thanks for going out of your way to throw down so much detail despite the fact that you didn't have to. I was at a crossroads of deciding whether I really want to go down the furrybux "rabbit hole" and those posts pretty much confirmed what I suspected.

Seems like any form of art for pay is going to involve long hours of labor and financial uncertainty, so we might as well just pick the something that we can actually be proud of personally instead of suffering AND hating our own output

[Anonymous No.3313363]

>>3313361
I think that would be the most rational choice. If you're not already into furry art, you're just going to have a tough time.

[Anonymous No.3313525]

These threads are always so silly. Do you guys think Gabe makes so much money drawing what he draws just because furries can pay a lot? No, he loves that shit! He lives that shit! He is so passionate about it and that is why he is so skilled.

[Anonymous No.3313536]

>>3312978
>>3313074
>>3313181

phew.. thanks for your input. This all sounds like they are absolutely mental, especially that costume orgy thing. Are there any worse subcultures atm?

[Anonymous No.3313576]

>>3313536
bronies

[Anonymous No.3313584]

>>3313536
mlp
steven universe
loud house

[Anonymous No.3313648]

>>3313536
Fucking in costumes is the weirdest thing to you?

[Anonymous No.3313654]

>>3313277
Not even a little bit
In fact, a little bit scummy is almost required to show how popufur you are

[Anonymous No.3313744]

You're all fucking retarded and/or shit artists.

I make 1k a month easily doing furry art on the side. You guys are fucking idiots or just bad artists if you fail at picking fruit hanging this incredibly low.

furry clients:
- happily pay 200-400$
- are incredibly patient because they're used to waiting 6 months
- easygoing and casual (none of that stiff fake formality that 'real' clients put up)
- will come back to you if you do good work
- will tell all their friends about you
- promote your art for you by posting it everywhere
- may possibly subscribe to your patreon
- are autistic enough to be fascinated by everything you do

If they ask for endless revisions you just start taking increasingly more time between them.

Seriously I'm 100% convinced that the people shitting on furry art as easy cashcow are just shit artists entirely.

[Anonymous No.3313764]

>>3313744
post work

[Anonymous No.3313768]

>>3313744
You must either be a very good artist that has been doing this for years, or a very lucky bad artist.

Post your work.

[Anonymous No.3313780]

>>3313768
>You must either be a very good artist that has been doing this for years, or a very lucky bad artist.
Effectively, there is no difference.

Also, I feel this should be said: Networking and being a good business man is vital to selling your work to any community. It will never be enough just to post your art on FA and expect the commissions to roll in. You need to get your hands a little dirty. Communicate.

[Anonymous No.3313782]

>>3313648
>someone is letting oneself be fucked by a sweaty, reeking, dirty, digustingly infested dick, without protection, by multiple random faggots.

heh nice try furfag

[Anonymous No.3313788]

>>3313744
>>3313780
>Look mom, I'm drawing our cat how it's getting fucked by the neighbor's dog! S-some weird old guys on the internet are telling me it's great!

delusional furfags

[Anonymous No.3313789]

>>3313782
Not quite what I meant.

[Anonymous No.3313814]

>>3313780
Of course. That's why I said what I said. Furry EASY money is a myth.
To make BIG money from commissions you need to be an established artist AND a good businessman.

[Anonymous No.3314046]

>>3313584
>loud house
?

[Anonymous No.3314180]

>>3312845
You have to like furry and be able to put up with furries or it'll suck.
And even if you check both boxes and make it abundantly clear what you will/won't draw, you'll get randoms who want you to draw their obscure, gross-even-by-furry-standards fetish, in spades. I'm smalltime as fuck and over half of the first 50 or so notes I got were weirdos trying to negotiate stuff that I specifically said I absolutely will not draw, or getting offended that I said I don't want to draw their fetish in my TOS. It's like having to run a daycare in addition to your art service since the majority of the weirder ones act, speak and type like literal children and you can't avoid their tremendous thirst no matter what you do.
Only thing that gets me through it is I like my fair share of fucked up furry sex shit too so for every 5 or so boring vanilla commissioners/weirdos I have to deal with I get to talk smut with someone that has matching interests and often get to draw porn that I'm into. It's entirely not worth it if you've got no interest in networking with perverts.

[Anonymous No.3314218]

>>3314180
Also I'd say most of the furries I meet just through posting work/hanging around the community are average people that just happen to be major hornbags online, but opening commissions or running a request stream or anything like that immediately opens the floodgates for dudes who can't spell and want me to draw their character transforming into playground equipment while cumming. It honestly feels like there's an underground network of broken english babytalk weirdos with obscure fetishes that spring into action and dogpile anyone who even hints at opening NSFW requests or commissions.

[Anonymous No.3314253]

>>3314218
I almost wish you were right because I keep trying to get into the commission game and I'm too shit at it.

[Anonymous No.3314260]

>>3314218
>their character transforming into playground equipment while cumming
It's true but that doesn't make it any less funny.

[Anonymous No.3314267]

>>3314260
That was the second request I *ever* got and they dropped it on me after a 3 day back-and-forth via FA notes where I explained at length that I wasn't interested in any kind of TF and they kept suggesting that the idea they had was so hot that I wouldn't possibly say no if I heard it.

[Anonymous No.3314268]

>>3314267
That can't be true
no fucking way is that true

[Anonymous No.3314279]

>>3314268
I haven't got receipts but it was a user called "Borgri" and I think they eventually got someone to draw it.

[Anonymous No.3314284]

>>3314279
AHAHAHA
lord in me
http://www.furaffinity.net/full/21288528/

[Anonymous No.3314290]

>>3313168
Jesus Christ. And I felt dirty for drawing a pinup of Katella for some guy on /co/
How do people handle this shit is beyond me

[Anonymous No.3314310]

>>3314284
I swear to god the hardest part for me has been trying to keep up a respectful nice guy persona on my art accounts while constantly having comedy gold like this just rapidfired into my inbox any time I open for commissions.

[Anonymous No.3314355]

>>3313780

>You guys are fucking morons, saying that furry art isn't effortless money and that it actually takes savvy and hard work. I draw furry shit and the truth is that it actually takes hard work and savvy.

Drawing too many horse cocks has made you spiteful and stupid.

[Anonymous No.3314358]

>>3314355
If you think it's so easy, go ahead and try. Don't let us stop you.

[Anonymous No.3314394]

itt: butthurt idiots that thought they could game the scene, got chewed up and then spat out

[Anonymous No.3315358]

I also don't know why people think it's so easy. You have to know what appeals to furries and emulate the styles and preferences. Can't just draw anthro dogmen and expect it to work. Like you can't jump straight from Western comics to pandering to weebs just because you gave a girl neon hair.

[Anonymous No.3315738]

>>3312882
It’s been a fad only for what, the past 15 years it’s been around?

[Anonymous No.3315760]

I agree with >>3313744 honestly. (Not so much the retarded and/or morons part)
I started an account on FA and within a month I had secured a good number of commissions. I wouldn't say any of the art I posted for examples was amazing, proficient enough. It could be the fact that I did some TF stuff though. That fetish that doesn't get a ton of new content (that's why I started drawing it). I didn't have to do much really, I put up a post with commission prices and people reached out. I've had several returning customers since. I didn't even draw a lot of full anthro, mostly kemonomimi. If not for some pretty serious shit going down in my personal life that made me have to basically stop taking commissions I think I'd be making a reasonable amount on it now, based on how many I've had to turn down.
It really didn't seem any more complicated than getting commissions for anything else. Advertise you're open, maybe draw a couple popular things for exposure, and get to work.

[Anonymous No.3315782]

>>3315358
sure, but you CAN copy popular artists and slow assimilate your own "style" in a fairly short period of time.

just keep switching names/handles and never fuck anyone over or make drama.

[Anonymous No.3315810]

>>3312845
Why does furry shit piss me off so much? I look at this picture and a deep violent rage wells up within me. To say it's punchable is an understatement

[Anonymous No.3315820]

>>3315810
No self awareness in the way it is drawn, just gayness.

[Anonymous No.3315827]

>>3315810
deep seated resentment for those who are enjoying themselves thanks to your loveless upbringing that has led into a spiteful, resentment-driven life

[Anonymous No.3315895]

>>3312978
Just like sonic, you have a simple outline and multiple characters who only slightly stray from it, so autists can make their ebin oc by just swapping colors, adding some designs, and maybe changing the minimum amount of the outline.

[Anonymous No.3315898]

>>3315810
whats up with the holy mountain video? cool movie but what's the purpose of posting it here?

[Anonymous No.3315904]

>>3315898
Iguana anthro?

[Anonymous No.3315929]

>>3315827
found the furfag

[Anonymous No.3315932]

>>3315929
>triggered

[Anonymous No.3316181]

>>3312849
Dont act like you dont know what it is you degenerate furry

[Anonymous No.3316183]

>>3312881
>it's because they want it drawn be a specific person so they can be part of the club.
Yuck thats actually true

[Anonymous No.3316255]

>>3316183
Imean, it's not TOO far off from IRL popular artists.
Lots of artists' works are considered incredibly valuable despite being objectively bad. The artists name is just put on a pedestal by aristocrats as an artificial focal point for people to swoon over.
It's definitely more prominent in furfags, but not exclusive at all.

[Anonymous No.3316278]

>>3316255
>objectively
Reconsider.

[Anonymous No.3316281]

>>3315810
Some type of anxiety disorder perhaps?

[Anonymous No.3316303]

>>3312882
I doubt something like a fetish for anthro people is ever going to be on it's way out, considering we have entered an era where finding new kinks is easier than ever thanks to the internet being so prominent in our day to day life
and anthro movies/cartoons may not be produced as much as years ago but they aren't gone either, look at zootopia and how popular it is/was

[Anonymous No.3316672]

>>3312882
Wow it's really not

This >>3316303
People love this shit, especially the cute stuff

[Anonymous No.3316698]

>>3312845
Yup furries are dying out; why go buy a $2000 fursuit to show off your degeneracy publicly when you can just get a weird pronoun and tumblr account for free.

[Anonymous No.3316780]

>>3316698
You have no idea what a furry even is, do you?

[Anonymous No.3317166]

>>3312845
The fastest way is to kill yourself. Everyone knows dead artists are better.

[Anonymous No.3318569]

>>3316780
a misrable pile of secrets?

[Anonymous No.3318583]

>>3316672
artist?

[Anonymous No.3318677]

>>3312882
That shit is more popular than ever with no roof on it. You're insane to think otherwise.

[Anonymous No.3318818]

>>3313764
>>3313768
Not him but here are justmegabenewell's prices. Judging from how active his tumblr is there's no shortage of people willing to pay.

[Anonymous No.3318850]

>>3318818
jmgn is a huge gay who is realy into whacky monster furporn, it doesn't count

[Anonymous No.3319004]

>>3318818
Gabe is clearly very passionate about his stuff.

[Anonymous No.3319245]

>>3313313
>>3313264

Null Ghost charges between 200-500 depending on what you're wanting. A friend of mine dropped 350 on a commission from him.

Honestly if you draw every day, post sketches/wips, and interact with people on twitter/FA you'll amass a good fanbase

@Drewziepie on twitter recently did a free art raffle and got 500-600 followers from it and he's no NullGhost.

Pay attention to the amateurs, the "pros" and people in-between them. All the people with massive follower counts and steady work build up good rapport with their clientele and develop long time customers.

Also if you want easy followers/favorites/watches/views draw porn of the following:

Zootopia
Star Fox
Rock Dog
Robin Hood

Also gift/fanart for popular furry comics like Brogulls and The Internship will attract a lot of people that love those works. Brogulls just finished but The Internship is ongoing and has arguably the most fanatical husbando wars in the furry community going on.

[Anonymous No.3319247]

>>3319245
>intership
yeah it is realy hot right now and will go on for a while so it's a very good idea to draw Cooper being facefucked by Andy.

[Anonymous No.3319677]

>>3319245
>Brogulls and The Internship
Who? What? I've never heard of these. Are they webcomics or something?

[Anonymous No.3319683]

>>3318818

I admire this guy because he's good, but you can tell he's not autistic. He keeps it pretty pro and mantains a low profile staying out of any drama and the scarily autistic side of the furry community. That's gotta be his secret. Bringing an incredbily pro attitude into it.

[Anonymous No.3319693]

well you wont be actually making real art

[Anonymous No.3319695]

>>3313168
>end of fucking story
>proceeds to tell more of the story

[Anonymous No.3319721]

>>3312845
Is there a market for cute cartoony furry stuff like this or is all the money in the gay smug face shit?

[Anonymous No.3319722]

>>3319721
There's definitely an audience for stuff like that. The main thing I see in common with furry art is appeal. If your stuff is appealing and cute people will want it even if it's not smut.

[Anonymous No.3319725]

>>3319683
>you can tell he's not autistic
lol

[Anonymous No.3319728]

>>3319725
he doesnt sound autistic at all
https://soundcloud.com/mickey-bamboo-78393957/panda-pause-ep-6-justmegabenewell

[Anonymous No.3319785]

>>3319728

well he's a massive fag but he does sound quite likeable and normal. and he's been on FA since 2011, which gives shit artists like myself the hope of becoming established within 6 or so years. I remember reading that Incase also took like 5 years to become as big as he is now. So for some us who started say 2016, aiming for being established at 2020 or 2021 is an achievable and reasonable goal.

[Anonymous No.3319856]

>>3318850
>huge gay who is realy into whacky monster furporn
So are most of them.

[Anonymous No.3319868]

>>3319856
But op is not like that.

[Anonymous No.3319872]

>>3319868
If he says so. But I can't imagine you'd do very well if you weren't into it.

[Anonymous No.3319898]

>>3319872
You don't, I think that's the point that's being argued.

[Anonymous No.3319924]

>>3315810
I'm bothered by this.
I mean what the hell is that?

[Anonymous No.3319935]

>>3319924
A wink? I dunno, maybe the artist was trying to make it playful. Lot of furry artists are like that.

[Anonymous No.3319940]

>>3319924
What's wrong with the eye? Do you mean the angle? Animals are typically drawn with more slanted eyes that point towards the nose. Especially something sneaky like a fox.

[Anonymous No.3319941]

>>3319935
I know it's supposed to be a wink it's just drawn like absolute shit and misaligns the whole face.

[Anonymous No.3319951]

>>3319941
Naw if it were drawn dead on horizontal it’d be misaligning it.

[Anonymous No.3319960]

>>3319941
looks fine to me

[Anonymous No.3320012]

>>3312845
sell adopts! ive seen people sell them on twitter for $80+

[Anonymous No.3320039]

>>3319951
>>3319960
I've un-rotated it using the nose as a point of reference. Obvious yet?

Either way, since we know this thing's eyes are HUGE the way they've shaded it and drawn the line makes it look like there's no eyeball behind the right eyelid.

[Anonymous No.3320061]

>>3320039
Not really. It looks like the right side is slightly squished in thanks to the crooked smile and flow of the hair, but I'm pretty sure that's intentional for the flow of the piece.

[Anonymous No.3320062]

>>3319245
>Null Ghost charges between 200-500 depending on what you're wanting.
Jeez. That's survivable money.

[Anonymous No.3320089]

>>3320012
>this is "making bank" to artists

[Anonymous No.3320099]

>>3320061
It looks like the face was drawn at two different angles and then smashed together.
This is a hill I'm willing to die on.

[Anonymous No.3320106]

>>3320099
Anon, I think you're more concerned about the general symetry than the actual piece. The crooked smile, the upturned ear on the left, the dyed hair tuft, and even the winking eye are all there to lead the eye down a curve from the top center to the lower right corner.

[Anonymous No.3320114]

>>3320106
It's a portrait of a winking gay fox I can guarantee they weren't galaxy braining about guiding the eye by squashing the right eyesocket and dragging it 25 pixels down the face.

[Anonymous No.3320120]

>>3320106
This. Once you get to a point where you know the rules well enough you can fudge things to enhance certain aspects of a piece. This is what style actually is. Choosing your level of detail and polish, your shape language, amount of exaggeration, everything that goes into a polished piece, while keeping enough foundation to make it look believable. It's the point at which a drawing can technically be wrong yet look and feel right.
The drawing isn't realistic and it bends a lot of rules of realism but it looks right and slight "errors" like the one you're hung up on act to enhance the feeling of life. If it was mechanical and perfect it would look stiff and dead. Having things bend helps mirror the way we see things in real life which is in motion. It's why sometimes a hard edge is better defined by two overlapping strokes rather than a crisp line, it imitates real vision.

[Anonymous No.3320123]

>>3320114
I take it you've never actually seen these people work, because that's exactly the sort of effort that goes into these things.

[Anonymous No.3320125]

>>3320120
-or- they didn't fudge it on purpose. See, I like this one better because it doesn't take a paragraph and a bunch of additional assumptions to make sense.
Going to have to disagree on the piece being "technically wrong but looking and feeling right" because I knew something about the eye bugged me the second I opened the image and only had to tilt my head a bit to see what it was.

[Anonymous No.3320126]

>>3320120
>>3320099
One last thing, I understand where you're coming from but I hope you get past this kind of thinking. The rules are there to help artists express their vision clearly not to box them in.
It's like the difference between learning how to write an essay and how to write poetry. In an essay you'd never write something like "her hair is the sun, her eyes are the sky" because hair and eyes aren't literally the sun and sky. At best you would say "her hair was the color of the sun and her eyes were sky blue". Essays are about clearly conveying an idea while showing all the pathways from research to conclusion. When you get to advanced writing and start using as a form of art, you realize you can use or dismiss certain conventions to achieve an effect. But learning that foundation helps you fully understand language to ensure you don't break any of the essentials and leave your poem an incoherent mess.
Basically, don't get so stuck on rules.

[Anonymous No.3320128]

>>3320120
>>3320126
Damn it, I forgot to attach this example image.
Oh well It probably doesn't matter. From that response I can tell you've already made up your mind on this.
I hate seeing this kind of thing on /ic/. Being that hung up on perfection really only leads to stagnation.

[Anonymous No.3320131]

>>3320128
There's a difference between making facial features technically incorrect in an abstract, anime kind of artstyle like your example versus a digital painting where all the forms are clearly defined by light rather than lines and anything that doesn't conform -not perfectly, but at least decently- to the perspective is going to stick out like a sore thumb. I can see what you're arguing but I'm not going to apply that thinking to something that can be explained with "The artist probably just didn't flip their canvas and spot it". A lot of the time, mistakes are just mistakes.

[Anonymous No.3320137]

>>3320131
The problem here though is you're the only one who thinks it looks wrong. I watched your flipping gif and I still see no more of a problem with it than I did looking at the OP image initially. That's why I explained all that because it's my impression that you're finding it to be wrong on a technical level while ignoring the bigger picture (no pun intended) of how that eye in the context of the drawing works and looks perfectly fine.

[Anonymous No.3320186]

ayo hol up
the fuck is going on in the reflection in the eyes

[Anonymous No.3320199]

>>3320099

Ironically this is more autistic than the entire furry community put together.

[Anonymous No.3320203]

>>3320137
I mean,
1. I'm assuming we've only got the opinions of 3 people here
2. The initial response was something to the tune of "It's not out of alignment at all, the angle is correct actually" and you can measure it, and see that it's misaligned a good distance. That's a thing you can do. Not spotting a technical inaccuracy is, also, a thing you can do. Yeah, it doesn't ruin the picture. Yeah, I can just not pay attention to it and it'll look fine, especially if I get used to it. The same thing can apply to mistakes *I've* made, and if it's technically incorrect and not intentional, it's a mistake, even if it's not immediately obvious. I'm aware that it could be intentional, but I seriously doubt it considering it's not even a difficult mistake to make. Even then, if what they're going for was really meant to illustrate the motion in the piece? I'd still think it looks off.
Ironically, the less of the image I can see, the less off it looks. Don't pay attention to the opposite half and either side looks completely fine. Don't pay attention to the nose and it looks fine. Pay attention to all of it and suddenly the eye's drooping down a bit and my brain's having a disagreement over where all three of those features suggest the middle of the face should be.

>>3320186
cityscape.jpg
Looks like a bridge.

>>3320199
Well joke's on you, fucker, because the autism of the entire furry community put together would have mine in it somewhere

[Anonymous No.3320219]

>>3320203
I don't think it was intentional in that it was a conscious decision. I think it was drawn by feel, intuition, and what looks right to the artist. I understand it may be wrong on a technical level but to me it's wrong the same way an orange isn't a perfect sphere. It's an organic thing drawn by an organic being and it's formed the way it is as a product of that. Those little flaws give it its character and make it look more right than a perfectly measured and perfectly symmetrical drawing would look. It's the whole basis behind squash & stretch in animation. Bending and stretching forms helps sell the movement as well as the forms themselves. Believe me I know the fine line between trying to defend actual mistakes with style but in this case I just don't think that's what it is.

[Anonymous No.3320228]

Forced Feminization art is in vogue right now. I do it and it's not too cringy, plus if you make the dudes look like girls it resembles straight porn.

there are tons of dudes with shit tier abilities making over 3k on patreon by drawing sissy art.

[Anonymous No.3320429]

>>3319785
>normal
that's right

[Anonymous No.3320432]

>>3313302
>Sidenote: I don't get why people think they can just waltz into a subculture, shit out a drawing, and be swimming in cash.

My guess from reading this thread with stuff like

>but it's 10 to 12 hours of demanding effort, especially when you're uncomfortable with drawing a puppy playing in feces.

from >>3313298

It's what former furry artist try to tell themselves and others they were doing as a way of cooping with their trauma.

[Anonymous No.3320530]

>>3320432
What a bunch of spineless weenies.

[Anonymous No.3320580]

>>3313168
>refusing to draw perverted stuff because it's perverted
Dude it's the GREATEST PART of taking commissions that you get to know all these obscure fetishes people have

[Anonymous No.3320586]

>>3320530
Judging by how you haven't died to some parasitic infection or passed away from drinking a liter of bleach. I'm going to conclude that you are a spineless weenie by your own standard.

[Anonymous No.3320637]

>>3320099
I can see that the eyeball disappears behind the lid, it doesn't protrude on a big enough area. But I don't think it's angled wrong.

[Anonymous No.3320689]

>>3320586
The fuck are you on about?

[Anonymous No.3320728]

>>3320658

[Anonymous No.3320846]

>>3312845
F-list
Furries always try to get art of their OCs because it means more interaction/RPing and more jerking their dick to every murr and yiff they type. I have one person who has commissioned me a total of $60 for three flat color pics of their OCs, and my art fucking sucks.

[Anonymous No.3320873]

>>3320689
I'm telling you that you can't see the difference between an instinctive reaction of disgust/repulsion and then lack of courage.

[Anonymous No.3320949]

>>3320012
i don't get adopts....what do you actually get? just knowing that you "adopted" it?

[Anonymous No.3320962]

>>3320949
I think the theory is that you're supposed to get art of it and RP with it but I've only seen like 2 people total get art of an adopt that they've bought and people RP with other people's characters without permission all the fucking time. There's a massive number of people buying them compared to actually doing anything with the adopts they've bought and it's actually really disappointing to see good artists auction off decent character designs to someone who's going to do nothing with it.

[Anonymous No.3320963]

>>3320873
The "disgust" is their own damn fault for jumping into something they thought was gross in the first place because they thought they could grab some easy money. They're weenies for crying about it afterward and expecting comfort for their own idiocy.

[Anonymous No.3320984]

>>3320012
> "ive seen people sell them on twitter for $80+"

oh sweetie, that's so cute...take a look at dA, I've seen adopts sell for 1k+, the most I've seen an adopt go for is around 5k and I'm not kidding you, dA is full of retards that can easily pay hundreds/thousands for muh sparkle cats and dogs

[Anonymous No.3320988]

>>3319721
who drew that? blog pls

[Anonymous No.3320990]

This reminds me of the macro falco korean dude who commissions a fuckton of fox/falco destroying cities.
If you want to get easy money, he is willing to pay a good amount of money for that.

[Anonymous No.3320995]

>>3320984
You have to already be popular, dedicate your life to being a huge obnoxious piece of shit and make an exclusive closed species that looks so generic DA furry that you get to start a billion disputes with 12 follower accounts over their designs being too close to yours to get your adopts to go for that much. Also pretty sure it only works if you're female and in your late teens to mid 20s.

[Anonymous No.3321003]

>>3320990
Oh god that guy. Him and Lupine assassin who carried a suitcase full of hundreds of pictures of his fursona that he commissioned other artists to do (although he stiffed many of these artsts).

[Anonymous No.3321004]

>>3320995
yeah but these people can easily make hundreds on a piece that I think don't even took them more than 30 minutes, you just have to know how to appeal to the rich kids

once you've reach to them you can make the most shitty unoriginal bland designs and they'll still throw loads of money at you for them, most of them don't really want to use the character, they just want to show off that they're rich enough to spend 1k+ on a food dog or a cat with horns because a popular person drew it

[Anonymous No.3321181]

>>3320963
You must be desperate for money then. I wouldn't watch 2 girls 1 cup for hours even if someone paid me. Not wanting to puke has nothing to do with courage. It's like you don't understand the definition of those words.

[Anonymous No.3321315]

>>3321181
it's just a picture, they can't really be disgusting

[Anonymous No.3321463]

This thread is making me want to get back into the fur game.

[Anonymous No.3321480]

>>3321315
Pictures can't be disgusting?! Anon, you're stupid. Honestly.

[Anonymous No.3321505]

[Anonymous No.3321531]

>a non furry manipulating furries into giving money to him
I like you OP

[Anonymous No.3321534]

>>3321505
>artists getting corrupted into drawing progressively more degenerate filth
just like my erotic picturebooks

[Anonymous No.3321807]

>>3321534
literally my life right now. nothing sucks you artistic motivation like falling down the porn hole

[Anonymous No.3321842]

>>3321807
I found "falling down the porn hole" made me more artistically motivated
(to draw porn)
(so I had more stuff to hwack it to)

[Anonymous No.3321902]

Aaaand another artist leaves the right path to follow the dirty road of fame, lust and mon€y...

DON'T. You're worth more than this : forbidding yourself from showing your art to anyone interested in your skill (like your mom,your little sister,your son, or any normal/sane people) without feeling deeply ashamed, just because you're attracted to green bills? Drawing subjects you find weird or disgusting yourself for a living?
Would you start drawing gay scat things overnight if someone told you that its fanbase pays the most? Would you take the rsk of your name being associated with a weird fetish on the internet for the rest of you & your entourage's life?

You won't have these problems as a SFW artist...

>>3321505
Precisely.

[Anonymous No.3321942]

>>3321902
If you don't think getting work doing sfw art is just as much prostitution as this is, you've never done it. Drawing for someone else for money is always the same whether it's porn or not. Picky clients and chill clients, tons of revisions or one-and-done's, people who are cheap and try to rip you off and people who give you generous tips. I've had all of them on both sides of the coin. When you work you just get the damn job done. When you draw in your free time you do whatever you want and that's what you put on your own blog with your own name.

[Anonymous No.3321944]

>>3321942
>being an art model is the same as being a filthy whore

[Anonymous No.3321949]

>>3321944
No those are two things that are actually different. Models don't have sex with people for money. Drawing for money is drawing for money and I promise you you will not land some incredible cushy job painting your oh so deep and intellectual conceptual pieces at your leisure. If you plan on doing this professionally then you have to realize it's work. It is a job. And after you do enough of it for enough people you realize drawing for money is drawing for money. In most sfw jobs you end up drawing things that have nothing to do with your main focus or trying to ape someone else's style to fill in and other tedious work. At least with porn you get to lay out what you do and don't want to draw. You don't have to draw diapers and shit if you don't want to and can still make plenty off of it. If you ever start really doing art for work you'll see. You'll see.

[Anonymous No.3321955]

>>3321949
>Models don't have sex with people for money

And artists don't draw cartoon tigers getting fucked in the ass. The analogy is good because this retarded idea of yours that sfw freelance artists should be ok with degrading themselves by drawing furry porn is about as revolting and degenerate as a modeling mogul saying "hey you already showed us your breasts for $100 so you might as well let us cum on them for $1000"

[Anonymous No.3321963]

>>3321955
No you missed my point. I wasn't saying artists should be okay with degrading themselves by drawing porn. My point is drawing anything for money at all is just as degrading. Degrading is how you see it though. I feel no shame in it I see it as work no matter what. Architects and engineers build incredible fancy buildings and you admire the craftsmanship on the outside while you walk or drive past but you know what? They were just as professional and thorough about designing and constructing the bathrooms and toilets and all the pipes that carry your shit away to where it needs to go. Are they architects and engineers who built that small little McDonald's next to the Empire state any less professional or dedicated to their jobs? No. Work is work and if you hang onto this attitude of what you're too good to draw you're going to find yourself very much unemployed.

[Anonymous No.3321966]

>>3321963
>if you hang onto this attitude of what you're too good to draw you're going to find yourself very much unemployed.

If an aspiring artist is only good enough to make a steady living off furry porn then they have serious flaws as a craftsman that need to be corrected. Personally I'd rather kill myself

[Anonymous No.3322005]

>drawing porn is prostitution
>but working for church, working under patron, drawing portraits for rich people is not
doable standards

[Anonymous No.3322007]

>>3321902
>DON'T. You're worth more than this : forbidding yourself from showing your art to anyone interested in your skill (like your mom,your little sister,your son, or any normal/sane people) without feeling deeply ashamed
lol

[Anonymous No.3322011]

>>3321966
You say that like there aren't tons of non furry artists with horrible craftsmanship making a name for themselves every day. You may not kill yourself now but judging by what I'm seeing from you here, if you ever get into the working realm of art and find out how many of your preconceived notions are challenged it might not be long.

[Anonymous No.3322048]

>>3320990
>>3321003
Get good at drawing buildings, do auctions, get money. Easy 3-step for fast money

[Anonymous No.3322061]

>>3322048
whoops, forgot to censor those two dicks... not that it matters...

[Anonymous No.3322087]

>>3320988
@MissJazzDaFunk

[Anonymous No.3322092]

>>3322048
What's happening in the top right of the first one that you had to censor it?

[Anonymous No.3322142]

>>3321181
Anon, the people who do this don't find it disgusting. That's why it's lasted so long, and will continue to last. Everyone who continually takes part actually enjoys it. People who take part in things they're disgusted by and then cry about it afterward are weenies. It's that simple.

[Anonymous No.3322865]

>>3322142
Except the ones that draw all the porn get all the money over the ones that don't do it.
Hell, the internet wasn't completely swamped with furfags and porn artists 10 years ago. Its a lot more obvious and "in" than it used to be and instead of people getting recognition for their originality, they get swept under and ignored.
Porn is the bigger deal now and now that more people are aware of it, the more you see it everywhere. Its not a great motivator.

[Anonymous No.3322889]

>>3312845
>>3313168

Stick with vanilla furry art, and only take vanilla commissions not the snuff type. IME the vanilla clients pay decently (maybe not as well as the yiffers but still decent) and they're not crazy.

[Anonymous No.3322942]

>>3322142
>Anon, the people who do this don't find it disgusting.

We are not talking about those people.

If you follow the quote links you can see it starts with an anon in this thread who tells:

>but it's 10 to 12 hours of demanding effort, especially when you're uncomfortable with drawing a puppy playing in feces.

[Anonymous No.3322949]

>Andy crawled to freedom through five hundred yards of shit smelling foulness I can't even imagine, or maybe I just don't want to. Five hundred yards... that's the length of five football fields, just shy of half a mile.

Do you have what it takes. If you don't, drawing's not for you.

[Anonymous No.3322952]

>>3322865
>Hell, the internet wasn't completely swamped with furfags and porn artists 10 years ago
Maybe we were on different sites, but furries felt like they had a bigger heyday on the internet back then. They're more normalized now and integrated with normie social media, but they were booming back then, too.

[Anonymous No.3322975]

>>3322942
And that's why I'm calling them weenies.
Don't go into something you hate just for the money. You'll be shit at it and be miserable the whole time doing it.

[Anonymous No.3323291]

>>3322975
You can call then weenies. But if you thought you were going to draw Disney character engaging in adult sex and then end up getting sent instruction on drawing kids that play with poo and you are about to puke just at the thought of it then you would probably quit too. I wouldn't call you spineless if you didn't want to sit through drawing while puking for money that was just not worth it.

I made all that up btw but that's how I imagine it could had been.

[Anonymous No.3323319]

WTF are you people talking about.

You don't have to draw shit that makes you uncomfortable, none of the popular fur artists I follow draw anything besides vanila fetishes.

[Anonymous No.3323353]

>>3312853
zootopia

[Anonymous No.3323478]

>>3323291
You can quit, sure, but you can also just, you know, decline the commissioner. You don't want to draw shit fetish? Make that clear.
Weenies are the people who don't do anything about it and then cry about how terrible it was after.

I draw TF fetish. I make it clear I won't draw scat, and I don't get requests. If someone does ask, I decline them. I don't quit and go on a dramatic rant, shaking hands clutching my pearls, tears streaming down my face because someone demolished my world for wanting some other gross thing. I'm not that much of a weenie.

[Anonymous No.3323517]

>>3323319
This. Just say you don't draw scat and cubs and people won't approach you to draw those.

[Anonymous No.3323527]

>>3312845
Probably but my idea sounds as fraudulent to me as your post does. Set up a blog, publicise blog, offer art for money, fulfil orders should you receive any, file a tax return, close down blog, change mascot uniform for original following unaware of new blog in different internet zone.

[Anonymous No.3323877]

>mfw drawing Sonic oc porn for people in Discord servers for free because I don't feel good enough to get paid for any of it.
Why do I keep doing it, lads? Will I ever find confidence to charge people for drawings I do?

[Anonymous No.3324202]

>>3322092
There was a zoom in...

[Anonymous No.3324444]

Is it even worth drawing furry art and furry porn? It seems like a real risk if you want to make a name for yourself out in the real world, especially if you live in place that is so detached from artistic sensibilities.

[Anonymous No.3324453]

>>3323877
Didn't you just post on trash? Dude its pretty good

[Anonymous No.3324488]

>>3324453
I want to do more than sonic porn. I want to make what I want for a living and feel proud of what I do. I want to give people something they didn't ask for but are more than happy to pay for. I want to wake up at the crack of dawn and be eager to animate (which is my endgame goal).
I appreciate the positive feedback greatly and I understand that I need to start somewhere, but I just want a sense of direction that would help me get what I want.

[Anonymous No.3324759]

>>3324444

Nobody cares mate. If you name your furry account after your real name then yeah, people might be a bit put off by that. But otherwise nobody gives a fuck.

[Anonymous No.3324925]

>>3324444
I'm getting animation (for advertising) gigs sent my way by an animation teacher I had in TAFE who's seen one of my porn accounts. Most people in art right now are liberal/centrist progressive hippies and don't give a shit so long as it's not pedo/rapey and you don't post on your blog about guillotining landlords or putting anyone in gas chambers.

[Anonymous No.3324939]

>>3324488
You sound just like millions and millions of other whiny millenial bitches. Time to wake up and start doing what you want to do instead of dreaming about it.

[Anonymous No.3325095]

>>3324939
How do I do that?

[Anonymous No.3325547]

>>3324488
Try watching and learning from asian kemono artists, usually their anatomy skills are really good.
Ex:
null ghost
kumak
kemo_nuko
takemoto
and many others that are on the recommended tab on twitter

[Anonymous No.3326102]

>>3319245
>and interact with people on twitter/FA you'll amass a good fanbase
tried that but honestly can't keep up. It cringe me to no end, there is just some air of fakeness but I get most are pretending to be your friends out of interest and sadly that's who it works although I prefer to keep distance and just post art without saying anything

[Anonymous No.3326103]

>>3325095
Draw neon green dog knots

[Anonymous No.3326104]

>>3325547
>takemoto
>good anatomy

come on now

[Anonymous No.3326106]

>>3326104
It's fine. For his cartoonish style at least.

[Anonymous No.3326114]

>>3326106
it has become too meh, too much exposure and many copying his style has made his style too stale and boring to look at. It irks me how he ignores something so crucial like the hips. idk how people can still like it

[Anonymous No.3326573]

>>3326114
>furries
>expecting them to have critical eye about art
draw a dick and you have plenty of followers, even kemono artist have their portion of awful artist yet they get the attention because there is a dick there

[Anonymous No.3327393]

>>3326114

It's funny you mention this

Takemoto and TairuPanda/Tooler have like the most copycats and it's hilarious.

Also this artist has like, basic anatomy skills, it's nothing impressive and he rakes in steady money.

Just develop a cute toony-anime hybrid style and people will lap it up.

[Anonymous No.3328342]

>>3326573
Basically this

[Anonymous No.3328572]

Can you do a cooked Furry?

[Anonymous No.3328624]

>Be pervert
>Have mediocre/below average drawing skills
>Start drawing furry porn for catharsis, to practice anatomy and to gain an easy following
>Try to appeal to my own fetishes to the best of my capacity in my drawings and my descriptions
>Get noticed by a few people
>Announce that I do free drawings for anyone interested
>Get some requests
>Do the requests to the best of my ability, people like them
>Play along with the people that RP with me, accept any and all requests
>Gain a very small following that keeps growing with nearly every single drawing I post, despite the fact that they suck shit
>Already being contacted by people with weird fetishes
>Already being pestered by some guy who wants me to draw his OC
>Been on FA for only 2 months

I'm tempted to start e-begging. Do you think they would drop 1-3 dollars just to have me draw their requests faster? Or pull a "Your Character Here" pic?
OP, the secret is putting your heart into it. I'm not even that much into it for the money, I just want to get good to drop some sweet furry butts.

[Anonymous No.3328647]

>>3328624
Sounds like the same road I went down.
Honestly, just start doing cheap commissions.

[Anonymous No.3328667]

>>3318818
this guy is a ttotal pro you guys
like step the fuck back. JMGN is a fuckin beast man. Total Major league artist man. He gets all the artist pussy and tons of artist ass. He pisses off all the right people and boner pops all the cool kids. He's also insanely funny and has a giant dick he shows off all the time in his streams just to humiliate his viewers by comparison. Honestly, you all should give him money righ tnow...

[Anonymous No.3328670]

>>3328667
We know it's you Gabe you saucy bitch.

[Anonymous No.3328678]

>>3328670

shut up bitch

[Anonymous No.3328695]

>>3312845
do you have any art examples of your own?

[Anonymous No.3328702]

>>3322048
>togepi

[Anonymous No.3328818]

>>3328624
how inspiring
also this>>3328647

[Anonymous No.3328836]

>>3323291
It seems like you don't know there's a thing called refusing a commission, kek.
Are you 15 or just very very stupid?

[Anonymous No.3328840]

>>3328667
you absolute samefaggin faggot

[Anonymous No.3328899]

>>3328840
i'm not that gyu but gabe is truly and inspiration to us all. He jacks off like 20 times a day. That's superhuman

[Anonymous No.3329256]

this fucking thread has been informative, i want to give this furry commission shit a go.

here is a trash drawing i made in a shitty sketchbook

>inb4 the marker looks bad

im genuinely better than this but the paper is extremely cheap, i was doodling in class.

but back to the point, i figured my selling point would be that i have no reservations, ill draw anything, so long as its not too time consuming.

even the degenerate shit, like the most awful stuff possible.

do i have any potential?

[Anonymous No.3329258]

>>3329256

aaaaaah, posting from iphone, for some reason my picture rotates even though they are upright when i send them anywhere else.

any way if you care to save and rotate for yourself go ahead.

i don't care enough.

[Anonymous No.3329261]

>>3329256
that creature is pretty cute

pick some degenerate shit you are also into, thats a recipe for success

[Anonymous No.3329265]

capitalism needs to die

[Anonymous No.3329275]

>>3329265

please don't make this a political discussion, its bad enough the faggots from /pol are so absurdly loud they spread their tripe to all the boards i go to.

if /ic gets political ill have absolutely no social interaction in my life.

[Anonymous No.3329287]

>>3329275
Just accept it m8. Things are never going to be the same

[Anonymous No.3329292]

>>3329287
Same shit happened in 06 and 10. It dies down in a couple years.

[Anonymous No.3329298]

>>3329256
Yeah, I think you could.
I straight up no-effort all my porn and get people offering to pay for stuff. My regular work's low-effort and it still visibly has way more effort put into it than the porn I draw, which is majorly just messy digital painting with a single brush.
Like >>3329261 is saying, if you already whack it to some sort of stuff you've got a path to success right there. Even if it's vanilla as hell if you just try to draw the stuff you get off to the most then you can get by on that, you don't have to achieve technical perfection.
I've got a massive porn folder with no shortage of top-notch, well drawn, well rendered fuck and so often a technically pristine image will be next to some absolute garbage that I find even hotter because the guy drawing in Firealpaca on a Wacom Bamboo and 2 years of art knowledge happens to have really solid fundamentals in the field of making dicks get hard.

[Anonymous No.3329299]

>>3329287

the funny thing is that gamergaters and poltards think their shilling and their sudden appearance on the media brought more people but it actually emptied the boards HARD. It did exactly the opposite and made 4chan much more embarrasing than it was.

most smaller boards who interesting sometimes now are poltard themed as well, is fucking stupid. All good pastas and captions are from like 2012

[Anonymous No.3329301]

>>3329292
?
https://www.rank2traffic.com/4chan.org

[Anonymous No.3329309]

>>3329299
>but it actually emptied the boards HARD

Lol. 4chan regulars never leave, no matter how shitty things get

[Anonymous No.3329336]

>>3328836
Or maybe it's just you who are to stupid to figure out it was the only paying work he was offered.

[Anonymous No.3329338]

>>3329301
I guess the jump in 10 wasn't as big as I remember.
What happened in August/September of 14 that would bring people here? I don't recall any big events.

[Anonymous No.3329346]

>>3329338
Gamergate

[Anonymous No.3329350]

>>3312845
>tfw really need money and furry seems the way to go but I'm REALLY not into furries

So I drew a couple furries and posted on Devianart. I honestly freaked out when this..."person" sent me a message requesting me to draw "HIM", which at first I thought it linked a photo of himself but it was a FUCKING FURRY HUMAN LIKE CHARACTER.
Then I never did another furry again.
But I do kinda like drawing Pokemon girls in more human forms. Is that enough?

[Anonymous No.3329351]

>>3329346
Oh...yeah. I remember why I forgot.

[Anonymous No.3329354]

>>3329350
You sound like a spaz, but pokejinka's are fun.

[Anonymous No.3329357]

>>3329350
Just draw the stuff that you like you dumb bich.

If you want to do something you hate for money just get a day job.

[Anonymous No.3329508]

>>3329265
Kys commie

[Anonymous No.3329844]

>>3324488
Choose your flavour

[Anonymous No.3329848]

>>3329844
You can only get a very spesific crowd with "heavy stylisation".

[Anonymous No.3329890]

>>3329844
Most furries I have seen look like Disney rejects, it is kind of hard to take their death threads seriously then they have the same facial structure as goofy

[Anonymous No.3329897]

the furry bux isn't hard to attain or achieve status if you're a legit artist (care about improvement combined with experienced skill)

however-- it needs to be said that being a furrybux artist is very very very tedious. You will become one with the autism or not at all.

[Anonymous No.3330150]

Easiest way I can think of is drawing gay porn. You can draw over real life pictures all the time like pic related, just make sure you have an appealing style.

[Anonymous No.3330153]

>>3330150

Lol how the fuck is that drawn over a real picture?
I'm sure it's referenced but the impossible anatomy indicates it is not traced.

[Anonymous No.3330154]

>>3330150
falconmcooper traces IRL photos?? whart??

[Anonymous No.3330193]

>>3330153
?
>>3330154
falcon didn't draw this my dude

[Anonymous No.3330198]

>>3330193
do you actually spot people when they are doing dumbbell curls?

[Anonymous No.3330216]

>>3330193

Just as I suspected. Referenced, but not traced. By saying he's making porn by "tracing" photos it seems to imply that he can't draw from imagination very well or anyone could do it if they just traced. But every single shape is stylized and there is a lot of invention not found in the original image. Thus saying the image is "traced" is meaningless.

[Anonymous No.3330228]

>>3330198
No idea, I'm just a skeleton who barely does cardio :think:
>>3330216
This straight up proves my point. People will defend you no matter what OP, so no need to worry about randoms calling you out

[Anonymous No.3330234]

>>3330216

yeah, his anatomy is good and it shows he knows how to use the reference.

Only crabs and wanabees complain about referencing. Like they could do better with or without it lol

[Anonymous No.3330241]

>>3312845
>Furry artists make bank

It´s only true if you can´t draw anything else and is the only way to make a buck you have. If you have a good level then move to normal sexy fan arts and less nyche themes.

fandom and fetish art makes a lot less money than normal art or normal fan art. I dont get how some furry artists who are pretty good still remain in furfag fandom charging amateur price rates. My guess is they are that degenerate and don´t want to do anything else ever.

[Anonymous No.3330244]

>>3330228

Just to be clear are you saying that using reference is bad or somehow diminishes the value of art?

[Anonymous No.3330266]

>>3330193
Anon, this is a reference, not a trace.

[Anonymous No.3330504]

>>3330241

>All those furry artist patreons making bank now that yiff party’s bots got wrecked.

Anti Dev and Jackaloo have actual art related jobs in the industry, this is just their side job. Meesh does furry smut full time and lives comfortably on the west coast too.

[Anonymous No.3330763]

>>3313168
This so much, I took a furry comm one time and it was nothing but deep regret, dude was off the deep end. He made me redo the dick several fucking times.

[Anonymous No.3330785]

>>3312872
very incorrect, gay furry is WAY more popular than lesbian
see page number and URL on each image.

if you wanna make bank drawing furry, you draw gay bara furry or twinks

[Anonymous No.3330789]

>>3330785
gay is more popular than lesbian but female solo and straight is more popular than gay

[Anonymous No.3330797]

ive been doin furry commissions for years and paying rent with it, if you're good at art and you're a pervert, it's the perfect freelancing community. Just be smart about who you take commissions from, dont take commissions from people with literally no online presence or you could get scammed, this isnt a furry specific thing, this is just how freelancing works. I also take the money first, so they cant BS with not being able to pay after i finish. I get around 40 requests for a commission whenever i open slots, so the demand is high enough to make as much money as i want.

For a bit of perspective, I can draw and color a sketch in around 3hrs. I charge around 70$ for a colored sketch of 1 character. I get about 40 requests in the span of 3-4 hrs of opening slots. That's like 20$ an hr or more doin porn working at home, with room to charge more when I get more popular.

You've gotta be decent at drawing though, dont kid yourself thinking you'll pay rent if you're not better than most of the other furry artists posting. It is a competitive market, but there's also VERY high demand. Find your audience, draw for them for a few years, get a following, make bank.

[Anonymous No.3330799]

>>3330789
male solo and gay is more popular than female solo and straight so idk what ur point is. bisexuality is the largest demographic ofc though.

[Anonymous No.3330829]

>>3330797

i would soon go crazy and kill myself if i had to draw furry full time everyday , i´d rather work on retail for minimun wage than doing that shit

[hp No.3330836]

Wtf no dont give me competition

[Anonymous No.3330889]

>>3330829
Well obviously you have to like drawing furry to do it fulltime. I dont know why you'd draw shit you hate? that doesnt make any sense. There's other freelance jobs out there. Furry might have a lower bar of entry than most other freelance jobs, and also higher demand, but do what you want, just fuckin get better at art if u want a more prestigious art job lmao.

stupid to see all these people UHG I HATE FURRY, but also can i make money with it??? just go work at mcdonalds you inbred.

i like furry art, its creative and there's a ton of depth there if you want there to be, tons of different shit to study, a very high skill ceiling, and a ton of artists to network with. Yeah its perverted, but im a pervert so it fits. If you're not one, why even consider furry art.

[Anonymous No.3330928]

Just want to make this clear, any sort of porn path in art is equally as "easy" to get into. Whether it's drawing people's fursonas, or their WoW OCs or whatever. It's the simple fact that sex sells.

Also, they aren't very "easy" to get into. You still have to have a good work ethic, and be a talented artist. As much as people like to laugh at furry artists as not being "real" the only furry artists that make any sort of real money, let alone being able to live off it, are extremely talented in their own right and work their ass off.

If you wanna make $10 or $20 bucks here or there drawing half assed sketches of someone's OC fucking a teddy bear, then sure the barrier to entry is pretty small. But if you want "bank" then you have to work your ass off regardless. Even the most talented and prolific artists in the furry fandom have to pump out commission after commission, comic after comic, non-stop to support themselves. Fuck, a lot of them even have "emergency commission slots" every few weeks/months because they aren't getting enough work... so they slash their prices by 25/50% just to get a higher volume of work.

Drawing furry porn isn't all it's cut out to be. Take my word for it as someone active in the fandom, both online and IRL, for years who is close with many career furry artists.

[Anonymous No.3330940]

>>3330928
>Even the most talented and prolific artists in the furry fandom have to pump out commission after commission, comic after comic, non-stop to support themselves.

yeah, but that´s also because furry pays less than normal freelance work of proffessional level, even less than other porn or fan art related work.

For the same effort you can open a "sakimichan style" patreon page and rip appart to some good shekels with little worries for ideas as you are simply making lists of famous characters and drawing them in pin up style one by one

[Anonymous No.3330941]

https://www.patreon.com/fek reminder that this furry artist makes 25k a month

[Anonymous No.3330946]

One thing I don't get about you furries..

Is being involved in your fandom really worth the risk? Your work has some merits but the amount of lewdness and insanity and batshit weirdness turns off a lot of people.
Hell, when I was still in art college, there was a guy I knew who liked drawing anthros but didn't like being associated with the fandom (although, I suspect he was a closest furry..).
But he also got bullied and picked on a lot for liking the stuff, even though he kept it to himself and was barley open about it. Any opportunity where the topic of furry was brought up, the whole class used to pick on him and seemed kind of aggressive.
He seemed really nervous about the whole furry identity. I figured that he has a bad case of being an easy target, even though he was really down to earth and really funny.

And it sucks. I would've loved to have seen him do it and make a living out of it but he was afraid of being known as "that furry guy" and I really wonder how people in your fandom even deal with that.

[Anonymous No.3330952]

>>3330946
my case was the opposite, i met a ton of furries in art school and all the normies were just curious, i guess it depends really, its easy to keep a secret if ya want, but most people really dont mind unless they're chantards

[Anonymous No.3330960]

>>3330504
>Jackaloo
He doesn't even know how to properly draw an ass

[Anonymous No.3330962]

>>3330946

It used to be like that with shit that is anime styled or even comic styled.

That League of legends and Overwatch art that keeps getting posted is anime as fuck, current cartoons are anime as fuck, western comics are anime as fuck. (think Rob Madueira) The influence is notable

but a few years ago you would be shit on for wanting to draw exactly like that. Using realism and anime features combined would get you bullied on, in the most true sense of the term.

>>3330941

that guy´s so mediocre , i could understand it better if he at least were crazy good.

I don´t understand furries man, i really don´t but i do feel some empathy and have artistic respect towards anyone doing their own thing and suceeding , i don´t shit on you guys

[Anonymous No.3330963]

>>3330940
I agree, and that was my entire point.

[Anonymous No.3331091]

>>3330946
To me, it's just another subject matter I enjoy, not necessarily a lifestyle/fandom I'm a part of. Outside of this board and a handful of online interactions, I get virtually no backlash for enjoying all things anthro. Then again, I don't exactly flaunt the furfag within me IRL, but I doubt people would even care in the first place.

[Anonymous No.3331114]

>>3330962
>that guy´s so mediocre , i could understand it better if he at least were crazy good
he is currently working on a 3d furry fuck game, there is nothing like that on the market

[Anonymous No.3331134]

>>3330960
He's good enough that his work is very enjoyable.
He's pretty decent at writing a compelling story, something you all should think about if you want to get into comics, instead of grinding perspective boxes 24/7

[Anonymous No.3331135]

God this thread is filled with retarded posts.

If you're thinking about drawing furry art as a way to earn money, here's my advice:

1) Know what you're getting into and what you want out of it.

You're gonna have to put in lots of work to build a following, just like with anything else, if you're not posting at least once a week then you probably won't grow very quickly. Also, if you want a good amount of money quickly, target really niche stuff (aka kinkier art), and if you see this as a long term investment (3-4+ years) and wanna earn the big bucks, target more mainstream or vanilla content. Think of it like a sliding scale, and pick whichever balance works best for you and your goals.

2. Don't do requests.

Notice the theme with all the people saying that they had a bad time doing furry art? They were offering to do requests. I'd think this would be something obvious for someone who wants to earn money off their art, but apparently not. Don't pander to people looking for free art, you're just building a following of people who want your art for free and building that as an expectation. They're not interested in paying for your work. You're just pandering to the lowest common denominator.
If you're gonna do requests, save that shit for follower milestones/raffles on twitter.

3) Make a twitter account.

Probably the easiest way to gain/grow a following. There's a shit ton of furries on twitter and the retweet function makes people finding your content much easier.

[Anonymous No.3331140]

>>3322007
What if I already just draw exclusively porn often with a humiliation/degradation twist? I mean my drawings are better than ever now that they're fueled by my dick, but I really don't want to show them to my family. I'm not even getting paid for it, I just find normal references online then make the girls sluttier/stickier, for my own personal enjoyment.

[Anonymous No.3331149]

>>3331135
Also

4) Make a T.O.S.

I don't get these posts saying "I got requests to draw (x disgusting thing here) and that was enough to make me quit for good!", just clearly outline what you are willing to draw and what you refuse to draw, and if they ask you to draw shit you don't like, tell them to read the T.O.S, and or fuck off. The people who request that kind of shit from an artist with clear guidelines is few and far between, so if you're getting a ton of them asking you to draw whatever fucked up thing they want, then there's probably a problem stemming from *your* end and how you present yourself to others.

[Anonymous No.3331169]

Apparently there aren't furry draw threads on /b/ anymore? What happened?

[Anonymous No.3331183]

im kinda getting tired of seeing this thread on the catalog. the dog man's face is starting to get annoying.

op just shut up and be a fucking furry artist, plain and simple.

[Anonymous No.3331192]

Still seems like people aren't answering the more compelling question:

How do furries go about their day-to-day lives with the knowledge of the backlog of porn and/or interests they have with the fandom on a day to day basis? What does their family think? How is their social life because of it etc. etc.

I think THAT is a more interesting topic.

[Anonymous No.3331208]

>>3329309
not true at all if you check the traffic, not to mention mobile usage actually changed the landscape drastically as well as captcha and spam changes, yes we get a lot of fucking spam at one point (mostly in /b/) but it stopped a lot of dump threads after upload limits became a pain to easily drop shit. Minor quality of life changes to a site make a big difference in the long run.

[Anonymous No.3331209]

>>3331192
its just a kink man lmao, i dont think about that shit unless im trying to get horny or i already am, also i just like drawing anthro characters and when people see them they just go "oh what a nice cartoon" or "thats a cool monster design" on the more lizard-esque characters

[Anonymous No.3331210]

>>3331192
its the same as people who pay a shit ton to cam models in their free time or hit up instagram or snapchat gals,

[Anonymous No.3331219]

>>3331192
It's fine? It's not like I go around flaunting it or anything. It's the same sort of mindset knowing that you fapped to vanilla material.

[Anonymous No.3331224]

>>3331192
if we're gonna talk about furries can we at least start a new thread? im getting tired of this one.

[Anonymous No.3331235]

>>3331192

>What does their family think?

does your family watch your porn folder anon?

is their social life different in relation to the cartoons you watch on your pc?, furries are just the same as any other people who like a thing and that´s it. Don´t be retarded, theres nothing compelling about it.

>>3331208
>not true at all if you check the traffic

might be some true to that because only the most autistic samefag shitposters who never left seem yo remain active, the casuals and lurkers are sick of this place, same with quality posters and randoms who got pissed or tired of pol/ flooding all boards.

Controversy is not edgy or funny anymore, is just making people who used to browse here in their teens feel old and silly. i have the feeling 4chan will shut down any moment during the near future , data mining is the one thing keeping it afloat still.

[Anonymous No.3331279]

>>3331235
Im more interested in the ones that go out of their way making a living out of being involved in the "furry" lifestyle.
Do they attach it to their irl name or do they all go shizo and try their best to lock it away from the lives as much as possible?

[Anonymous No.3331287]

>>3331279
The "furry" lifestyle is just chatting about how cute you find certain characters and ideas for fetish art with maybe a convention to hang out with other guys like you. Everything else is normie interests like movies and games. It's not that deep.

[Anonymous No.3331289]

>>3331287
>It's not that deep.

maybe otherkins and other autists would disagree lol

[Anonymous No.3331294]

>>3331289
Those are just common autists anon. You can find those with any interest.