/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3311194]

Is anyone else not really into doing commissions or making money with their art?

It seems like the entire internet is saturated with people trying to be "good enough" to build a following and eventually take commissions. I was caught up in this myself for a bit, until I got turned off from the idea of marketing my ass off just to make $20 off a drawing that takes me a few hours anyway. (I already have a stable job I love that pays me a little less than that much per hour, and I'm still only a student; the payoff/effort ratio seems entirely not worth it.) Another thing is that if I start thinking in terms of being "good enough to commission," my passion goes away since I think in terms of what the lowest common denominator of my audience would like and art suddenly becomes stressful. Anyone else just invested in improving for fun or just to improve rather than for someday taking commissions?

[Anonymous No.3311197]

>>3311194
I don't want to work in a call center in my 30s.

[Anonymous No.3311202]

Yeah it's called drawing for fun not having an actual career in mind. Aka, a hobby

[Anonymous No.3311208]

I actually like taking commissions.
Besides earning some solid money, in most cases they throw me off my comfort zone and challenge me in ways I never imagined.
I love it since each time I walk out better than I was.

I basically have no following on social media, but when I post for a freelance or commission job, in almost each case I get the job. Clean tumblr with your studies, originals and sketches can go a long way.

I take at least 50$ per digital painting.

Making good art is stressful.

[Anonymous No.3311211]

>>3311208
>when I post for a freelance or commission job
Where is this?
Also, what is the genre of your art? I like to do character art (think of people's MMO characters) and that market is way oversaturated.

[Anonymous No.3311213]

>>3311194
>Is anyone else not really into doing commissions or making money with their art?
It's because you suck. That's all. You spend "hours" drawing because you have no idea what you're doing. That's why it takes pros 30 mintues to make what you couldn't make in 18 in hours. Get good, or stop whining that your art is only worth $20.

[Anonymous No.3311226]

>>3311213
I don't like doing commissions either.
I charge $100 for what takes me a couple hours max to do but having to constantly go back and forth to get clarification on what gay furries want drawn is so off-putting.

[Anonymous No.3311240]

>>3311226
>I don't like doing commissions
>I do the lowest, most degrading commissions on the internet

Get some self-awareness. Obviously if you are not good enough to get paid for jobs that you can be proud of and that actually value your creativity and artistic input, you are bound to hate it, just like any other soul-sucking job.

[Anonymous No.3311258]

>>3311240
Are you an idiot, or just stupid?
Drawing one thing or another doesn't matter to me, it's having to communicate with the bastards that's annoying.

[Anonymous No.3311260]

I've been taking commissions for about a year and a half and since then i've drawn maybe two things that weren't commissions.

[Anonymous No.3311261]

>>3311258
Not him but you are in charge when you take commissions.
Just tell them that you will send them a sketch and that's the last time you'll take their input. If they are not ok with that tell them to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.3311262]

>>3311211
I find most of my work from reddit, upwork, freelancer and sometimes twitter.

r/forhire, r/hireanartist, r/artstore

Once you get on your feet a lot of good jobs will come from old clients or even their friends.

My main genre is landscape, environment, background art but I can do characters/portraits too. Most of my clients said that my art looks like traditional oil paintings which may be the cue that got them to hire me.

I guess that's a good thing since that's my favorite medium to look at and some of my favorite artists were/are in oil painting domain.
But I have no problem switching from traditional realism to stylized looks.

[Anonymous No.3311278]

Skill and ability do not guarantee money. The most useless people make the most money. It's called business. A good businessman is measured by the ability to sell worthless product.

The internet is saturated with mediocre artists? Guess what. Every market is over-saturated with mediocrity. That's why it's mediocre. All capitalist markets have an unlimited demand for top-end talent. So hopefully you're beginning to see how pointless it is to complain about your own competition.

Literally:
>starving artist cultural warning signs
>ruining your passion by monetizing it
>any expectation whatsoever of earning money from art as anything other than a blissful gift from heaven

[Anonymous No.3311349]

>>3311278
you're a goddamn moron
you'll realize that after you balls drop

[Anonymous No.3311366]

>>3311349
>insults
>no argument
Glad you decided to post. Excellent contribution. Yeah, nice one.

[Anonymous No.3311383]

>>3311366
same for the pointless artsy fartsy drivel you posted
thanks for really contributing because everything you said amounted to nothing you goddman fucking millenial bitch

[Anonymous No.3311387]

>>3311383
>>3311349

[Anonymous No.3311391]

It fucking BAFFLES me how stupid you guys can be. A serious amount of people on /ic/ just consider comissions as a career path.
Go illustrate child books, magazines, album covers, ads, textbooks, t-shirt designs... There are plenty of option that do not revolve around furry dick, idiots

[Anonymous No.3311401]

>>3311387
nice meme did they teach you that at millenial school where you get to only have teachers whose opinion you respect while also learning to be a useless little fucking leach on society with your attempts at ~believing in yourself~ and ~finding yourself~ like a useless little drivel-driven shit that you are

[Anonymous No.3311409]

>>3311401
>>3311383
>>3311349
>being this salty becouse youre too dumb to know how to make a living from a skill that very little people have..
Thank god im not as thick as you. But i do agree with you that you should quit. More job opportunities for me!

[Anonymous No.3311422]

>>3311409
>make $50/hour+ for random porn commissions whenever I want them
>too dumb to know how to make a living from a skill like that
???????

[Anonymous No.3311429]

>>3311422
porn is low class

it's almost hilarious how you consider the full time salary of a Mc Donalds employee to be "successful"

[Anonymous No.3311431]

>>3311422
>thinks drawing dogs with an erect penis is highest point in an art carer
>actually non ironically thinks that 50 dollars an hour is a huge amount of money
Anon please stop trying, my gf just checked in my room becouse i was laughing so loud

[Anonymous No.3311434]

>>3311429
>>3311431
lol

[Anonymous No.3311441]

>>3311194
You are a woman, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.3311442]

>>3311441
no

[Anonymous No.3311445]

>>3311431
>thinks that 50 dollars an hour is a huge amount of money
non burger here
It isn't?
wasn't minimun wage at 15 or so?

[Anonymous No.3311446]

>>3311445
they're shitposting, anon

[Anonymous No.3311449]

>>3311431
i'm not any of these anons in this disucssion, but your excessive greentexting, reaction memes, and trying to impress are making me think you're a 14 year old boy who recently discovered 4chan.

[Anonymous No.3311451]

>>3311442
You don't identify as a woman, OK.

[Anonymous No.3311452]

>>3311445
it's most definitely not consistent work

if he says otherwise he is a bullshiter

[Anonymous No.3311459]

>>3311387
The original Van Goph painting that that is a study of is so impressive in person. Singlehandedly made me understand what impressionism is all about.

[Anonymous No.3311460]

>>3311194
The thing is here OP,
is that instead of going out of your way to find ways to selling your art LOCALLY, you're relying on a virtual cyberscape to feel like an artist of relevance in a sea of mediocrity and pornography.
My advice?
Move away gradually from making a living online and find contacts with people around you. Create an art scene of some sort with people in your area, team up with a group, make a company or simply just make a lowkey group and provide art to people looking for something to help themselves stand out; magazines, t-shirts, hats, posters, albums, comics, book covers etc.

You're relying far too much on "making it" online when at the end of the day, your art is consumed by normie fuckers and passed on like its nothing.
This whole idea of posting your work online and finding a means to become a "celebrity" of some sort is pathetic. Sure, you can go out of your way drawing porn if that makes you feel any better but it will degrade the quality of your work without realising it.
And once you do it enough, people WILL start to notice. So you're better off not trying to impress anyone for the sake of "brownie points" and better off trying to create a local community of artists that can really create an impact in your area.
The result is that you will eventually earn more real-life respect and you will earn more confidence over trying to make furry pornography and "meme" art for the funny's and the haha points.
If you value yourself as an artist, don't rely entirely on you online persona. Create a decent portfolio, hit up some folks around the place and if you want, you COULD create a bit of degeneracy online.
Just don't rely on it as something that you think will fulfill you.

[Anonymous No.3311462]

>>3311452
t.doesn't draw furry porn
my god you get swarmed by people wanting shit if you're barely passable in quality

[Anonymous No.3311463]

>>3311446
its a comfy bucket isnt it anon :3

[Anonymous No.3311466]

>>3311445
people make up to 1k in a day with art. There is a high demand in storyboarding for film production, but people who get hired for these have to be good and fast. Same goes for gaming companies or magazine labels or whatever. Anything that isnt a single individual, will probably have a bigger budget to commission artists.
But if you're mediocre artists and have no marketing sense and you still want to make money fast, then yea furry porn is up your alley. But these people usualy never expand beyond that

[Anonymous No.3311468]

>>3311460
Good advice, thanks

[Anonymous No.3311469]

>>3311349
You anger me. I do not like you.

Perhaps you can change your ways?

[Anonymous No.3311487]

>>3311463
It's comfortable to know that you can always make as much money as you need if you ever need money, yes.
Yes that is comfortable.

[Anonymous No.3311686]

Your daily reminder that no advice fits all. Art is a very personal journey and making money with art is a very entrepreneurial undertaking. There's some readymade templates for success but ultimately it's on you as the individual to find your way.

- t. artfag who transitioned into gamedev