Alternative Art/Stylization General

[Anonymous No.3301719]

I suppose I'll use this guys image for the 100th time because everyone else is literal shit "edition"

Last thread: >>3296746

This thread is for anime...forget everything else because I'm eventually going to rewrite this... in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to praise those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings.

Don't know where to start? Read below.
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Hitokaku Index
>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #creative
>yoshikadu2011 (youtube, streams daily)
FellowBro's Book Collection
>http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
Tutorial & Reference Collection
>http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
Japanese Tutorials & Documentary
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317 (0033)
>http://iradukai.com/
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=902YZvjz4eI&index=9&list=PL6dSbz05yTUL_zym3SiOxOgqq29XvOh48 [Embed]
Life Drawing Reference
>http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos2.html
>http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
>http://senshistock.com/sketch/

p.s adding edition to a thread is gay

[Anonymous No.3301720]

>>3301719
literal shit

[Anonymous No.3301723]

>>3301719
pumpkin edition post

[Anonymous No.3301736]

>>3301720
figurative shit

[Anonymous No.3301744]

First actual try at a full piece, I mean colors and everything.

[Anonymous No.3301746]

I'm looking for some critique

[Anonymous No.3301749]

>>3301746
Me too.

[Anonymous No.3301751]

[Anonymous No.3301766]

Got stuck on a drawing. No idea how to do the legs. Any ideas?

Everything I tried looked either boring or weird, but I think I want her to spread the legs.

[Anonymous No.3301769]

>>3301746
I like the shapes, but the wrinkles don't seem to vibe, especially that one on the skirt. It's a little too drape-y feeling for a skirt being pulled taut by a knot.

Also the darker pink shading on her hair is a little too visibly loose for a crisp approach to lineart and shading.

[Anonymous No.3301776]

>>3301766

[Anonymous No.3301782]

>>3301776
Not funny. I really hate drawing legs. I always get stuck there. It fucking sucks. All that work always for nothing.

[Anonymous No.3301787]

>>3301766
Always make sure you have the gesture/pose down nice and solid with a stickman before you ever even start drawing anything.

The whole point of gestures is that they take literal seconds to do, allowing you to experiment a lot till you've got a satisfying pose.

At this point, there's not much you could do in adding legs without it feeling disjointed, as that's where the center of gravity is meant to be. So your best option is to crop it from where you've got it down, like a manga panel.

>>3301746
I like it. I don't think you need much more advice in terms of stylization. Just keep fine tuning and experimenting around in future works till you've nailed it. Don't get caught in a loop where you think you need to filter all your work through outside feedback. Sometimes you've just gotta learn to be self-critical, and have a clear goal in mind in regard toward what you wanna achieve. Critique on stylization is overall meaningless, and will lead to a lot of nit-picking. Overall, it comes down to how people react to your style as a whole. Personally, I think it's an appealing style.

>>3301719
>>3301744
You people need to put out finished/nearly finished posts before posting. Especially the one in the OP. Thumbnail is really nice, but the overall lack of polish is horribly jarring and comes off as lazy.

>>3301744
As for you, start with linework first before painting.

It should go:
Sketch>Clean lines>Flat Colors>Cell Shaded Values>Paint>Polish

You're a beginner. You shouldn't be jumping straight into painting like that. You lack the exp. Skipping all the long proper steps is only gonna hurt your learning progress.

[Anonymous No.3301788]

>>3301782
Not him but you should really try sketching in the entire figure and gesture before detailing the drawing. Having a plan helps the whole thing flow better.

[Anonymous No.3301791]

>>3301782
Draw the whole figure from the get go as a scribble or something before you start detailing. The people you see drawing everything as they go have internalized all that shit already but you're not at that point yet.

[Anonymous No.3301793]

>>3301787
>your best option is to crop it from where you've got it down, like a manga panel.
That would look even weirder and boring.
So far the best option I found was just making her sit on the knees. That kinda fits to the pose, but it just looks boring.

[Anonymous No.3301795]

>>3301769
Yeah i know what you mean, I added the not because i thought it looked a bit bare, but i also had a problem with the clothes in General, believe it or not the original outfit was a bra and panties. Thank you for the critique though i appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.3301800]

>>3301793
Ok. But make sure you redraw her spine, and shorten her arms some so that it looks correct.

Imo, if you wanna add legs in now, what you should do then is redraw the gesture.

Do the following:
>drop the opacity on your current one to like 25%
>make a new layer over it
>switch to a red pencil
>create a rough gesture tracing over your drawing (be LOOSE),
>play around with the skeleton, adding legs, and correcting the arms
>Bring the opacity back to to normal.
>Put the gesture sketch underneath it at roughly... 30% opacity
>Hide your drawing and complete the skeleton as a fully formed, roughed out figure.
>Then continue drawing as normal.

That's how you correct a drawing you've already started. It's gotta be uniform, otherwise it's gonna look awkward.

[Anonymous No.3301805]

>>3301787
>>3301800

[Anonymous No.3301818]

>>3301800
I think my main problem with the drawing is that the head is tiltedforward. It makes everything look so unaesthetically. It's just a very sad and lazy looking pose.

[Anonymous No.3301824]

>>3301800
I actually think you are right though. I should just crop the image and forget about the legs. The actual drawing is big enough to be a portrait only. Thanks

[Anonymous No.3301827]

>>3301805
pic related

>>3301818
>>3301824
No worries.

Just keep it in mind for next time. Make sure you do full gestures in the future, before you start drawing. It's always much better to settle on a full pose than try and salvage something after you've started. That said, there are ways to salvage half-finished drawings midway. The method I told you is one way. Also, lasso tool, and transform tool are your best friends.

[Anonymous No.3301829]

Reposting, havent had the chance to revise it yet but on paper i'd think shifting her head towards our right might fix the problem?

[Anonymous No.3301832]

>>3301829
Oh! Hey, I know the guy you're working for. I recognized some of your work on Giga Maidens. Good stuff!

[Anonymous No.3301843]

nykis is a faggot

[Anonymous No.3301846]

>>3301843
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/nykis/
?

[Bad Decisions !KillMe9ymY No.3301848]

>>3301723
Your pumpkin is leaking, faggot. I like your stylization though, faggot. Not sure why one hand has squared fingers and the other has rounded fingers though. Please fix.

P.S. F A G G O T

[Anonymous No.3301849]

Fuck you Nykis

[Anonymous No.3301851]

>>3301846
how did you find this pls

[Anonymous No.3301853]

Fucking furry

[Anonymous No.3301859]

>>3301843
>>3301846
>>3301849
>>3301853
>>3301851
How the fuck is Nykis, and what does this have anything to do with anything?

You linked to a profile with no gallery. If you're gonna shitpost, at least familiarize the rest of the thread with the drama. Dumb shitposter.

[Anonymous No.3301896]

>>3301859
it's gotta be the creepy furfag everyone hates
i wish people would stop giving him attention so he'd fuck off like n*sebro

[Anonymous No.3301930]

Wow I need to do more landscape studies. And study color theory. Also I really want to go for a color scheme similar to the lower image but something more readable, but I can't figure out how to go about doing that.

>>3301896
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.3301953]

>>3301930
fuck you
>>3301829
i love you
>>3301766
i love you
>>3301746
its ok
>>3301744
fuck you
>>3301723
its ok

[Anonymous No.3301961]

>>3301719
finish dis i lyk ur style

blag?

[Anonymous No.3301984]

I wanna know what you guys think of my drawing.

[Anonymous No.3302006]

One day I'll make it into the OP... One day.

[Anonymous No.3302007]

>>3302006
you need to aim higher, anon

[Anonymous No.3302009]

>>3301719
sauce for thread image?

[Anonymous No.3302049]

>>3302009
ukanon

[Anonymous No.3302076]

>>3302049
Thanks anon! And nice wip.

[Anonymous No.3302104]

I hope I am posting in the right place this time. Got flamed on last time for posting in the wrong place. Drew Saber from Fate.

[Anonymous No.3302106]

>>3302104
First you get flamed for starting a thread, then you get flamed for posting it in the wrong thread. What gives, dude?

[Anonymous No.3302153]

>>3301746
It's very simple and cute. I'd say the biggest problem is the subject matter in that it's fairly generic/boring.

Based on how simple the style is, I think a bigger focus on the background would help the most (i.e. putting the character in a concrete place/situation).

[Anonymous No.3302155]

>>3301829
To me, the thing that looks most off is her right arm. Maybe have it point more towards the viewer.

[Anonymous No.3302166]

>>3301984
Not hiding ear in hole/10

[Anonymous No.3302170]

>>3301746
>>3302153
>it's fairly generic/boring
agreeing with this. If you're gonna draw cute grills like the thousand other tumblr people, you gonna add something unique on it, make her do something, add anything it eye-catching etc., otherwise it'll just be a generic qt blob.

[Anonymous No.3302191]

>>3301953
why do i need to fuck me? ;_;

[Anonymous No.3302197]

>>3302104
nice work dude, would love to see it coloured

[Anonymous No.3302202]

>>3302104
where did you post first, anon?

[Anonymous No.3302208]

>>3301829
Yeah, shifting the head to our right will be an OK decision, although I'm not sure if it won't tip the visual balance.

>>3302104
Looks bretty gud, but I think you need to reconsider the thumb of the right hand. The perspective of the blade also feels slightly weird, not sure why.

[Anonymous No.3302244]

>>3301984
I can't put my finger on it but something feels off about the face

[Anonymous No.3302245]

>>3302104
Who are you? Blog

[Anonymous No.3302345]

>>3302155
>>3302208
Tried to shift the head (and shrunk it a bit), not 100% sure on the arm though?

[Anonymous No.3302353]

>>3302155
>>3302208
Tried to shift the head (and shrunk it a bit), not 100% sure on the arm though?

[Anonymous No.3302392]

>>3301984
Not bad aside from the ear being too small senpai. Araki's style is a fucking bitch to replicate in general.

[Anonymous No.3302437]

>>3301719
>yoshikadu2011
muh dick

[Anonymous No.3302505]

uploaded to the old thread by accident

[Anonymous No.3302524]

>>3302353
Both of those poses look kinda unnatural imo

[Anonymous No.3302642]

>>3301723
Done.
Any tips for painting backgrounds? I suck at them

[Anonymous No.3302675]

>>3301723
Done.
How do I get nice looking backgrounds without putting any effort into them

[Anonymous No.3302690]

>>3302353
>>3302524
I don't see anything wrong with the right arm on the left pic, but the left, I'd say, isn't good enough, so I tried to fix it (unfortunately, some of her hair was also lost in the process). The head is good.

[Anonymous No.3302691]

>>3302675
by the looks of it you didnt put effort into anything in this piece

[Anonymous No.3302702]

>>3302691
jellyfag spotted

[Illastrat No.3302710]

>>3302170
>>3302153
It was a small character/lineart test, but I
know what you mean it is super boring.

[Anonymous No.3302726]

>>3302702
that's not jelly that's a legit observation from him

the background is hastily blocked in and I'm not sure what it's supposed to be, aside from the inside of a tree trunk; there's no cleanup to the linework, resulting in completely random variations in line weight (look at those fingers compared to the line weight everywhere else - and what's with the teeth being so bold?); zero effort in a coherent light source, except for "vaguely to the top left" in the case of the pumpkin and "vaguely straight up" in the case of the figure, neither of which correspond to anything given in the background, which is darker than those shadows suggest.

It's not unsalvageable but there clearly has not been enough time or effort invested into this.

[Anonymous No.3302736]

>>3302710
Actual illustrat or just you using his name?

[Anonymous No.3302747]

>>3302736
Why the fuck does it say illistrat? I didn't write that when i posted, ignore that i guess, and no I'm not him.

[Anonymous No.3302764]

>>3302747
Nice try shitter, your new "style" is exposed, won't be able to create a new public persona now

[Anonymous No.3302790]

>>3302726
Thanks, that's the kind of critique I was actually looking for.

[Anonymous No.3302799]

>>3302764
I'm literally not illustrat kek, i had his name because i was joking around on another board about him, but ok, I'm not sure how his shit style could turn into my anime style btw.

[Anonymous No.3302802]

>>3302764
How the fuck could that be illustrat lmao, anon needs some glasses

[Anonymous No.3302807]

Can someone redline pwese

[Anonymous No.3302810]

>>3302802
>>3302799
Now this confirms it, samefag even posts like him. Not easy to change how you express yourself in words eh?

[Anonymous No.3302811]

>>3302810
I think your being a bit much anon, I'm just a random artist on here, you've probably seen me posting alot in the past, so chill out, why are you so desperate for me to be that shit paint fag? Is having his name for a joke all it takes desu

[Anonymous No.3302814]

>>3302810
>super paranoid
>thinks everyones illustat
>acusses of samefagging because their so desperate
Have you got beef with this illustrat guy?

[Anonymous No.3302815]

>>3302807
For you, /beg/ is the appropriate place.

[Anonymous No.3302816]

>>3302811
continuing to try to prove you're not him sure is helping your case

[Anonymous No.3302817]

>>3302710
>>3302736
>>3302799
>i had his name because i was joking around on another board about him
Seems like our resident shitposter just revealed themselves by accident. I hope you haven't posted your blog anywhere unless you want a handfull of autists stalk you from now on

[Anonymous No.3302819]

>>3302815
Pwese no i need help! ;^; beg isn't for me!! I'm good!

[Anonymous No.3302821]

>>3302811
>>3302814
>STILL trying
It's over for you already illustrat, this dumbass probably thought about grabbing a following with his new "style" and starting a patreon.

[Anonymous No.3302822]

>>3302710
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA FUCKING EXPOSED

[Anonymous No.3302823]

>>3302816
>>3302817
I don't care about this, i just wanted critique on my art, not random autists getting stressy.

[Anonymous No.3302825]

>>3302807
its ok
>>3302710
its ok
>>3302690
its ok
>>3302505
its ok
>>3302104
decent
>>3302009
this yours? otherwise its really good.
>>3302049
same deal if its yours, really good.

[Anonymous No.3302827]

I'm confused? How does illustats style look like that bitches?

[Anonymous No.3302828]

>>3302823
Doesn't matter, you'll be forever associated with Illustrat because you was shitposting and now you dun goof'd

[Anonymous No.3302829]

>>3302828
I don't care desu it doesn't matter that much, as long as i get the critique i came here for its worth it.

[Anonymous No.3302830]

>>3302827
Everybody sees through you retard, stop making it worse. As if people can't mix up the way they draw

>"character/lineart test"
Can't blame you, your old art was atrocious so you thought you'd hop on the CalArts bandwagon because the simplistic style looked easy to do. You're done m8, should've been more careful while shitposting

[testfag No.3302833]

>>3302829
I'm sorry kid, but there's really no coming out of this whether you like it or not. Unless you can somehow prove otherwise or some random anon is doing some masterful trolling here.

[Anonymous No.3302836]

>>3302833
How can i prove it? Is there a way, because i dont think there is, ill just have to deal with it, ive dug my bed now i must lie in it.

[Anonymous No.3302844]

>>3302825
Yes, it's mine..>>3302009

[Anonymous No.3302846]

>>3302836
If I where you I would do a hard reset and start over with a different medium, different approach, different workflow and different style so you would be a totally different and unrecognized artist I see no other way.

[Anonymous No.3302847]

>>3302814
>literally switched to niggerspeak to try to show how different his writing style is
Yeah man I got beef wichu, got some rice and beans too we finna make a fajita in hurr nameen? You dumbass, if it weren't for safety labels on hair dryers you'd be dead.

[NoseBro No.3302861]

>>3302810
dude youre legit retarded, that drawing is much better than what illastrat can produce.

[Anonymous No.3302865]

>>3302861
I don't even know who this guy is, but if that's better than he can produce I can understand the massive hate.

Either that or he's slowly improving.

[Anonymous No.3302882]

hi i drew Skarpne because i like her design

>>3302009
>>3302353
>>3302710
do y'all have instagrams or something that I can follow?

[Derek - Disciplinary Committee No.3302900]

>>3302747
Oh wow lmao. You're either him and were a fagboy all along with a different style or you're one of those anons using his name to shitpost with as seen in the other threads. Basically you've been exposed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc-sZ5VgMb4

[Illastrat No.3302921]

>>3302505
An edit my nigga, lmao

[Anonymous No.3302960]

my country has been IP banned?

[Anonymous No.3302961]

to the one asking earlier.

this is me
https://www.pixiv.net/manage/illusts/
https://azalea23.deviantart.com/

[Anonymous No.3302979]

>>3302961
lmfao @ the pixiv link

[Anonymous No.3302993]

I see this thread is going swimmingly.

[Anonymous No.3303012]

>>3302049

andrae in the hoooouse

[Anonymous No.3303015]

>>3302961
I hate saying this but your lineart is miles better than your coloring.

[Anonymous No.3303016]

>>3302244
eyes

[Anonymous No.3303035]

>>3302710
>>3302170 here. I don't know who this Illastrat guy is but I suggest deviating away from this generic tumblr artstyle. I understand style like this looks easy to shit out but you're gonna have to compete with other generic pastel artists if you want to stand out.

[Anonymous No.3303037]

>>3302960
where do you live?

[Anonymous No.3303038]

>>3303037
The only country I know that is IP banned here is Venezuela.

[Anonymous No.3303138]

>>3303037
I live in Taiwan

>>3302961
Yeah, I know. Trying to do a full render this time.

[Anonymous No.3303142]

>>3303138
Hey dude I hope you're ok from the earthquake

[Anonymous No.3303185]

School picture. Please critique I’ve posted in 3 threads and no critique

[Anonymous No.3303187]

>>3303185
you got talent kid

[Anonymous No.3303193]

>>3303187
Really? And god if you’re at all serious thank you. I wish I was a kid because I’m 21 and I’m going to uni but not for art and I feel like my chance to get gud is slipping away as I age and lose Grey matter :3 so thank you anon no ever ever replies to my work. I’m going to post another I did in the hopes that you or someone else critiques it. Total beginner if that’s not obvious

[Anonymous No.3303199]

>>3303193
The messiness of a drawing normally makes it hard to look at and reflects low technical skill, normally it's a shoddy sort of messiness. But you have an innate ability to tune the chaos to the mood and resonate it with the subject matter. In the previous joker picture, there's something unnerving about his face pronounced by the violent strokes , and without the blotchy greyness the bird man would look comical instead of eerie. This randomness is not something easily mimicked through deliberate effort, but draws from some intuitive inner sense. You got talent kid.

[Anonymous No.3303200]

>>3303187
You see what you fucking did
>>3303193
>:3
>>3303193
You see what you went and did you fucking retard, now we'll have to put up with this shit because he's too slow to realize your ironic shitposting. Fucking kill yourself.
>>3303193
Read the fucking sticky.

[Anonymous No.3303203]

>>3303200
>trying to rationalize his own lack of talent seeing others being praised
>surely it's ironic
Fuck off idiot, he's going to be great someday while you stay in the bucket

[Anonymous No.3303206]

>>3303203
>Stroking his ego and giving him asspats so he could fall harder when he realizes he is shit
>Not just telling him to fuck off and start drawing from life

Who's the crab here?

[Anonymous No.3303212]

>>3303038
I can post just fine...?

[Anonymous No.3303215]

eeeeeeeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.3303218]

>>3303206
Ok chill the fuck out guys. First of all im a female. And second of all I fully plan of making it. Fuck yall

[Anonymous No.3303227]

>>3303218
blog? please be my artist gf

[Anonymous No.3303228]

>>3303218
>female
(you)

[Anonymous No.3303232]

>>3303228
are you the same guy that got triggered by the words "sisters" in the other thread?

[Anonymous No.3303237]

>>3303232
Naw I haven’t been here in months. I missed it so I came back

[Anonymous No.3303238]

>>3303227
You on insta? Follow me @ bootyhunterboyz

[Anonymous No.3303250]

>>3303218
nobody cares you're a female

if anything it's making your art worse

[Anonymous No.3303252]

>>3302747
im gonna trace your art, then find your blog, and know you shitpost in meta threads in your spare time.

[Anonymous No.3303266]

>>3303015
uh... i know, i know... Orz.

this time i put in extra efforts into my rendering. middle of it actually. hopefully, this turns out nicer

>> No.3303142
still alive. was too focused drawing at the time to notice the shaking actually until my mother came upstairs and asked if i was okay.

[Anonymous No.3303267]

>>3303238
a word of advice
this is not how you write kanji

[Anonymous No.3303317]

>>3302847
Beef is also a british thing

[Anonymous No.3303524]

I've been trying lineart on and off for a long time but I don't feel like I'm making much progress with it. Can someone tell me what I'm missing?
I'm much more comfortable painting but I want to be able to do lines too.

[Anonymous No.3303528]

>>3303524
https://imgur.com/a/PCHnz
pic related to show the big difference in ability between painting and lines

[Anonymous No.3303530]

>>3302847
>Yeah man I got beef wichu, got some rice and beans too we finna make a fajita in hurr nameen?

[Anonymous No.3303618]

>>3301719
help, I would like some critique and redline if it is possible

[Anonymous No.3303632]

[Anonymous No.3303740]

>>3303267
I mean...

You guys try so fucking hard.

[Anonymous No.3303776]

[Anonymous No.3303777]

How do I feel form

[Anonymous No.3303779]

>>3303776
this nosebro? you've improved a lot nice stuff

[Anonymous No.3303781]

>>3303779
I'm not but thank you

[Anonymous No.3303784]

>>3303618
Head looks pasted on, doesn't match the flow and angle of the rest of the body

[Anonymous No.3303802]

how do i make pieces more interesting? also open to any critique

[Anonymous No.3303812]

>>3303802
your pieces are pretty flat in value and saturation. for the most part they have a really similar value and saturation across most of the piece. look at the thumbnails; you can't really make out the difference between the characters and their surroundings. also, work on more complex poses or expressions to make your work look more interesting.

[Anonymous No.3303823]

>>3303812
>>3303802
what xe said

also they're pretty messy. nothing really feels like they're where they're supposed to be, it really feels like a rough draft. but not in the 'ooh i wonder what it will evolve into' more like 'i can clearly see you think this is a good place to stop so let me tell you you are dead wrong' type of way

[NoseBro No.3303848]

>>3303779
thanks, that was definitely me btw, not sure who that other guy is ahah. Don't forget to follow me on xnosebro.tumblr.com ahah

[Anonymous No.3303871]

>>3303776

[Anonymous No.3303872]

>>3303823
I feel like once I render my art more it just looks tight and gross (pic related). How do I make my paintings looser without making it look messy?

[Anonymous No.3303887]

[Anonymous No.3303931]

>>3301719
>>3301787
>artist posts something high-quality that looks like it was put together effortlessly
>silhouettes, body language, and colors work well together
>very obviously pro tier
>"tch.. it's not that good.... in fact i was jarred by the fact that they made it look so easy.... horrible"

going though the rest of your post- you need to know that you give out absolutely worthless "critique". you bring nothing of value to the table. "put layer b above a!" "use x opacity!" this is all worthless. what the fuck are you even saying half the time???
maybe try learning more about art in general before trying to teach it. jesus christ

[Anonymous No.3303933]

>>3303872
lose the extra-smooth pillow shading and learn to get some hard edges and darker values in.

[Anonymous No.3303943]

>>3302710
>Illastrat
i used to feel bad for you because anons bullied you for having generic, lukewarm art. it was really admirable that you seem to be content being mediocre- with no drive to improve. but you've really just been spamming threads with dead memes this whole time. just create a tumblr already. you'll fit in perfectly

[Anonymous No.3303959]

>>3302710
HOL UP

You mean to tell me dis nigga has been all kawaii and shit the whole motherfucking time?

[Anonymous No.3303977]

>>3303872
Learning where to use soft and hard edges. Generally soft edges happen on softer plane breaks, hard edges on harsher ones.
Also using reflective light, makes everything in the piece feel like it belongs together (see: the blues on the underside of the cheek). Someone with hair that blue isn't gonna have no blue tones on their face.

[Anonymous No.3303980]

>>3303977
o ya, sidenote

those reflections on the eyes were so DISTRACTING if you wanna do something like that you need to tone down on the contrast of it so that your viewer isn't drawn to them and only them.

[Anonymous No.3304009]

>>3303218
i cant decide which is worse lads
>normies thinking gratification from a 4channer™ is "making it"
>getting this much of an inflated ego from an irony post

[Anonymous No.3304013]

>>3302807
she got no bones, anon
>>3302819
after reading this i realize you'll probably take one look at the redline and immediately erase it from memory. jokes on me i guess

[Anonymous No.3304020]

>>3304013
mind if i mspaint that real quick

[Anonymous No.3304021]

80's workout

[Anonymous No.3304027]

>>3303212
Only the ones using CANTV though

[Anonymous No.3304038]

>>3303632
>>3303266
Yeah, I gotta give credit where it's due. That is indeed better than your previous coloring.

Though I feel like you went a bit overboard with the red gradient which makes the whole thing look kinda cheap.

[Anonymous No.3304039]

>>3302104
it good. post ref?

[Anonymous No.3304043]

>>3302882
maybe :^)

>>3302009 this is me btw

[Anonymous No.3304044]

Lazy faggot here, I'm still working on it

[Anonymous No.3304056]

>>3304044
pillowshading for days, although the underlying structure is mostly fine

block the values in with a coherent lightsource first before working on smoothness

[Anonymous No.3304058]

>>3304044
>polishing a turd

[Anonymous No.3304059]

>>3304056
I know it looks pillowshaded, but my idea was to start with soft shading for the skin and then have the next later be harsher directional light. I guess I should've clarified.

Besides, direct lighting works for animu illustrations.

[Anonymous No.3304062]

>>3304058
he will never learn how to color if he never tries.

[Anonymous No.3304063]

>>3304059
You're supposed to go the opposite way. Go with the harshest, coarsest values first to establish your scale and extremes, then slowly come in with smooth/soft shading.

[Anonymous No.3304064]

>>3304058
Post your turds

[Anonymous No.3304067]

>>3304058
post your finished works, oh wait all you have are probably sketches and gesture drawings.

[Anonymous No.3304069]

>>3304067
LOL! not him, but I literally only have this and copies. The only "finished" stuff is garbage from HS. I just feel like I shouldn't even attempt a finished drawing if I can't really make a beautiful sketch.

[Anonymous No.3304071]

>>3304067
not him but this exactly describes me
everything is a turd so I hatch in some values and leave

[Anonymous No.3304087]

>>3304063
I... guess that makes a bit more sense, though I don't really see how going from softer to harder would be damaging in the long run.

But alas, here you go. This is basically what I had in mind for the harsher lighting. If you have any suggestions to change it I'd love to hear them (no sarcasm). I'm thinking of changing it up to give the abs more definition but I'm note sure where I could go with it.

[Anonymous No.3304089]

Work in progress.

[Anonymous No.3304095]

>>3304044
Do you mind if i post a coloured version I did to give you an idea of how to colour it?

The drawing itself has potential, I like the pose a lot. Feels nice and life like.

[Anonymous No.3304097]

>>3304095
Of course I don't mind. I appreciate any help.

[Anonymous No.3304106]

>>3304097
Honestly I didn't change much about the anatomy at all, the drawing itself is very solid. I lifted the underwear up and exaggerated the waist a bit and that was all.

I'm not great with explaining things which is why I did the painting but.. How I like to colour is to start and at a dark-midtone, add in my lights, and then push the shadows.

What helps me is to think of yourself as a sculptor when you're doing your lighting!! You're not just adding in light you're sculpting out the form.

I hope this helps even a little bit, I really like your drawing.

[Anonymous No.3304109]

>>3304106
stop

[Anonymous No.3304110]

>>3304109
What's wrong with it.

Display thine artistry

[Anonymous No.3304117]

>>3303980
>>3303977
>>3303933
>>3303812
Thank you a lot for your help anons <3

[Anonymous No.3304118]

>>3304110
Feel free to tell me if i'm wrong.

[Anonymous No.3304126]

>>3304087
>I don't really see how going from softer to harder would be damaging in the long run.
It's not a wrong way to do things, but mentally it's usually easier to interpolate (this color is between those lights and those darks) than to extrapolate (I must make this area darker and these areas lighter, but by how much? And if it's the darkest thing in the drawing, what reference do I have?).

If you can do it, that's fine and it works for you, but most people who attempt something like that end up with a very narrow range of values because they don't know how far to push them.

[Anonymous No.3304131]

>>3304021
its ok
>>3303887
its ok
>>3303872
bad
>>3303871
bad
>>3303802
bad
>>3303776
bad
>>3303632
decent
>>3303618
its ok
>>3303524
its ok
>>3303218
bad
>>3303215
fuck off
>>3302882
its ok

[Anonymous No.3304132]

>>3304131
you're fucking annoying

[Anonymous No.3304137]

>>3304131
post work

[Anonymous No.3304139]

>>3304106
I'm digging it, partially, at least. Lots of neat color variations on the skin which I have no idea how to pull off, but if anything, you gave me a very nice palette to work with.

I'm not quite sure about the lighting in general though. It leans a bit too much towards realism for what's supposed to be a stylised anime drawing. It's still fairly flat and pillowy, and some of the shading is pretty nonsensical (like the left arm, for example) with no definitive light source. I'd like to have harsher and more clearly defined directional lighting like I showed here >>3304087

Still, I'm really glad that at least one person likes it so much that they'd do a redraw of it. I'll save it and keep what you said in mind. I hope you don't take offense in anything I said here.

The face definitely doesn't work do it for me though. This is actually supposed to be a fanart of Zero Two, which admittedly isn't very obvious due to my very liberal modification of her physical build. Pic related.

>>3304126
I see. Yeah, that makes sense, though it mostly boils down to potential mental problems and not actual technical difficulties. I'll do it the other way around, like you said, on my next piece. What do you think of the shading example I provided?

[Anonymous No.3304151]

>>3304132
aww did i call your work bad :(? sorry, get better.

[Anonymous No.3304153]

>>3304139
>>3304097
>>3304087
>embracing help with open arms while simultaneously thinking for himself and not taking all advice at face value

Based politeposter. GMI

[Anonymous No.3304160]

>>3304151
Why don't you fuck off friend :) maybe post some actual critiques instead of bad/its ok/decent/good. If you we're any good at art you'd know these are meaningless words and they don't actual help the person with what they need to fix. And you keep doing you're little ratings in multiple threads which is really annoying.

[Anonymous No.3304164]

>>3304132
>>3304137
>>3304160
Stop giving him attention.

[Anonymous No.3304170]

>>3304139
Ohh it's supposed to be zero two!! I love her I'm doing a screenshot redraw of her currently. Don't have the time or energy for real drawings with school going on. :(

Also nah it's fine, no offense taken, I'm still learning afterall!! I see how it's pillow-y looking, and the left arm is kinda nonsensical, my bad. All the stuff the other anon said about it was true too! I'll pay attention to that stuff in the future :) Thank u for pointing it out!

[Anonymous No.3304173]

>>3304087
Here's the same pic but with the lighting direction flipped. I'm not feeling this version desu, but I figured it was worth trying out.

[Anonymous No.3304182]

lisette from PM

[Anonymous No.3304184]

>>3304160
git gud fagot

[Anonymous No.3304240]

[Anonymous No.3304271]

critique?

[Anonymous No.3304327]

I would never put her down.

[Anonymous No.3304339]

>>3304327
your girls are getting uglier by the post, theyve never been appealing from the beginning anyways.

[Anonymous No.3304341]

>>3304327
just let her die, don't make her suffer

[Anonymous No.3304342]

>>3304271
i remember you, when did you leave /beg/?

[Anonymous No.3304348]

>>3304342
more like why

[Anonymous No.3304351]

>>3304271
I don't know where to start

[Anonymous No.3304354]

>>3304271
Is she a skeleton in disguise? I think i can see the bones through her pants

[Anonymous No.3304356]

>>3304339
>>3304341
its kinda pathetic how jealous you guys get.

[Anonymous No.3304358]

>>3304327
face is good, realistic and with personality but also appealing.

[Anonymous No.3304392]

>>3304356
not really f a m
the guy has a mental illness, why would I get jealous of someone like him

[Derek - /ic/s number 1 picture(...) No.3304401]

Here are the true ratings thus far:
>>3304327
2/10
>>3304271
1.5/10 but 3/10 for being distinct
>>3304240
1/10
>>3304182
3/10
>>3304173
1/10
>>3304021
2/10 makes me smile
>>3303872
1/10
>>3303871
>>3303776
2.5/10 I love how you're free with your sketchiness
>>3303802
all of it 1.5/10
>>3303632
3.8/10 you have potential
>>3303524
1.5/10
>>3302675
nobody wants nobody likes roaches
>>3302505
it's okay
>>3302049
2.5/10
>>3302009
3.5/10 but finish it and I'll give you a 4
>>3301930
best so far ironically
>>3301746
complementary 10/10

[Anonymous No.3304409]

>>3304401
thanks derek

[Anonymous No.3304410]

>>3304392
can we collectively call him schizo-chan?

[Anonymous No.3304411]

>>3304059
>I know it looks pillowshaded, but
did you mean- occlusion? because that's not how you do it. what youre doing is in fact- pillow shading. and it's a bad, bad habit. you HAVE to pick a light source, man

[Anonymous No.3304414]

>>3304106
woah- this is really nice anon

[Anonymous No.3304417]

>>3304118
>the original is better

[Anonymous No.3304420]

>>3304118
Crabbiest shit I have seen in months

[Anonymous No.3304434]

>>3304401

[Anonymous No.3304472]

>>3303266
don't draw the underside of the breast, it looks weird

[Anonymous No.3304478]

>>3304410
retarded chan

[Anonymous No.3304482]

>>3304472
anon what are you talking about it looks fine

itd look fucking weird without it imo

[Anonymous No.3304483]

>>3304327
are you acting acting like this because that spic left your ass?
i warned you bro, never stick your dick in crazy

[Anonymous No.3304506]

>>3304482
clothes don't work like that

[Anonymous No.3304513]

>>3304020
much better thanks

[Anonymous No.3304529]

>>3304401
Shut the fuck up retard

[Anonymous No.3304543]

Sketch phase

[Anonymous No.3304544]

>>3304417
He said the original has better values, which is technically true if he's referring to >>3304087

[Anonymous No.3304551]

>>3304529
stop giving him attention

[Anonymous No.3304553]

[Anonymous No.3304555]

>>3304543
Cute!

[Anonymous No.3304556]

>>3304544
there is absolutely NOTHING appealing about >>3304087. nothing. the form is stiff and rigid, the values are just extreme dark + extreme light with no midtones. op refuses to remove the pillowshading because they refuse to learn proper lighting.

the only impressive detail is that- despite all this- the piece as a whole still looks flat. despite the poorly placed values you admire so much, she still manages to somehow have zero volume added to her form. so good job on that i guess

[Anonymous No.3304558]

>>3304556
post your work.

[Anonymous No.3304559]

>>3304556
>comes into the anime thread
>muh proper lighting

Lmao shut the fuck up crab

[Anonymous No.3304561]

>>3304556
Not only >>3304558, but post your finished pieces

[Anonymous No.3304562]

>>3304559
he's right tho
the overall look/pose/whatever is bland and boring

[Anonymous No.3304567]

>>3304556
Mind giving me some suggestions for a better lighting scheme then? As I stated already, >>3304087 obviously isn't finished. I'm trying to learn and improve but none of you are giving me much concrete advice.

>>3304562
I'm still at a level where I can't really pull off complex perspectives or extremely dynamic poses, but I still wanna finish a piece every now and then instead of just doing sketches and studies. What pose would you have chosen?

[Anonymous No.3304573]

>>3304567
>I still wanna finish a piece every now and then instead of just doing sketches and studie
just giving my 2 cents my man. The anatomy is ok but I think it's just bland considering she's just standing and doing nothing despite giving her some sporty clothes. Why not draw her on a different angle, or in a more action like pose

[Anonymous No.3304576]

>>3304573
>The anatomy is ok

No, it's not okay and he should stop polishing turds and start doing more life drawings.

[Anonymous No.3304582]

>>3304567
No offense, but you're overthinking all this. I know it's not the easiest finalizing a piece, but at a certain point you really shouldn't be asking for help on that specific drawing when you can learn more efficiently by starting a new piece and asking for help from there.

[Anonymous No.3304587]

>>3304576
Post your work crabby

[Anonymous No.3304590]

>>3304576
What's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.3304592]

I'm actually sorta intimidated about sharing my shit, but criticism makes the path to improvement. what should i do in a future drawing to improve my work?

[Anonymous No.3304594]

>>3304592
Stop shading with black for starters.

[Anonymous No.3304598]

>>3304594
fair enough solid advise that is a crutch I need to let go of

[Anonymous No.3304599]

>>3304582
So you're saying I should basically just finish it however I see fit?

You might be right. I'm getting too much mixed feedback.

[Anonymous No.3304603]

[Anonymous No.3304614]

Looking for general crit and opinion.

Should i give her a fat ass or a toned ass?

[Anonymous No.3304618]

>>3304614
those breasts are so absurd I think you have no choice but fat

[Anonymous No.3304620]

>>3304614
Realistically you should give her a fat ass.
However, a toned ass would help balance out her proportions.
Personally I would go with toned.

[Anonymous No.3304630]

>>3304614
I personally think right ass is more appealing simply because those lines in left ass are too big and dark, they should be more subtle like on the right.

[Anonymous No.3304631]

>>3304603
I really like it, anon

[Anonymous No.3304644]

>>3304327

[Anonymous No.3304658]

>>3304644
I laffed

>>3304614
Right

[Anonymous No.3304665]

>>3304644
KEK

[Anonymous No.3304671]

>>3304089
Laying in flats right now. Should I change their hair color? I think I might switch the hair to either a blonde, or just make them a red head.
Anything else I should do?

[Anonymous No.3304677]

>>3304671
I'd say blonde and chocolate is a nice contrast

[Anonymous No.3304689]

>>3304671
>Anything else I should do?
Redrawing her whole body

[Anonymous No.3304695]

>>3304671
>et hands
> duhh eyes
are they suppose to be a cat? they look like et fucked a octoling

[Anonymous No.3304697]

>>3304553
CUTE

[Anonymous No.3304717]

>>3304644
is this clairefu?

[Anonymous No.3304718]

>>3304401
ok I was actually thinking you were being serious until I saw the last fucking 2.

[Anonymous No.3304725]

>>3304689
Post work, specific advice, or redline. And "Redrawing the whole body" isn't specific.
>>3304695
Thanks, I didn't notice earlier but the hands and arms are pretty fucked, huh.
Head shape and eye shape are inspired by stuff from the Splatoon artbook, mainly because I can't find a way to draw human heads that also appeals to me. Also supposed to be based off a rat, probably need to tinker with ear shape more to sell that idea. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.3304734]

[Anonymous No.3304762]

>>3304725
your so positive wow, congrats on the attitude it will take you a long way, and I have a similar problem with my art, i find it very hard to draw a head shape and eyes that i like, but i eventually it'll work out, good luck anon

[Anonymous No.3304836]

>>3304762
look at this meek faggot, grow some skin pussy

[Anonymous No.3304844]

>>3304836
Not him, but post your work and lets see how thick that skin is :^)

[Anonymous No.3304852]

>>3304836
it's not a thing of being strong and shit, it's being positive about crit, which I bet you find very hard to take

[Anonymous No.3304874]

>>3304836
Post work, Mr Krabs

[Anonymous No.3304900]

critique me daddy

[Derek - /ic/s number 1 picture(...) No.3304905]

>>3304409
np
>>3304718
I don't lie on my reports.

[Anonymous No.3304906]

>>3304905
Thanks for at least using a trip so that people can filter you

[Anonymous No.3304912]

>>3304900
--shit, sorry for the low res

[Anonymous No.3304915]

>>3304906
that's not a trip, that's just a name
the filter goes on all the same

(hey that rhymes)

[Derek - /ic/s number 1 picture(...) No.3304917]

>>3304906
Well you're gonna have to filter my name (not a trip) several more times!

[Anonymous No.3304965]

I still have no idea where I'm going with this. Fucking kms

[Anonymous No.3305053]

I think I'm done with this? I wanna do something more with it but I'm not sure what.

Might come back to it later but I'm leaving it for now.

[Anonymous No.3305074]

>>3305053
Everything's muddy. It looks like you took an image and processed it through one of those auto-coloring algorithms. You've got some lovely colors but for the love of God work on your edges. At least you fixed the pinky.

[Anonymous No.3305077]

>>3305053
awesome! i love your colors

[Anonymous No.3305084]

>>3305053
The eyes are gorgeous. I'm stealing them.

But yeah I agree with what >>3305074
said. Control your edges and you should be good to go.

[Anonymous No.3305088]

>>3305053
seriously looks like you shoved it in an auto colour algorithm man

[Anonymous No.3305093]

>>3301744

[Anonymous No.3305095]

>>3305074
>>3305084
>>3305088

Thanks for letting me know, I was experimenting with a different painting method and thought the softer edges would look nice with it. I'll clean it up a bit when I have time!

>>3305077
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.3305124]

>>3305053
Aside from the color her features are very misaligned. Nose too far to the left, mouth too far to the right and too low. The structure around the eyes and eyebrows isn't very well defined either, it doesn't look like there's a hard skull structure underneath creating the edges of the eye socket and eyebrow ridge. I think the horns are out of alignment too. The painting is nice but for future works I hope you'll spend a little more time on constructing features and placing them in perspective.

[Anonymous No.3305137]

>>3305124
Ahh you're right I'll try and fix those things as well.

I need to get better at those things, I usually just jump straight to colouring because it's what I enjoy most. It's a bad habit TT

Thanks for letting me know.

[Anonymous No.3305153]

Finally completed. Please support me on pixiv.
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=67195979

[Anonymous No.3305155]

>>3305153
fuck off learn to shade materials properly you fuckboy

[Anonymous No.3305157]

>>3305153
You know you could of just posted your image without being a douchebag and shill your fucking page, if you want to be a shill fuck off to the tumblr page you stupid cunt.

[Anonymous No.3305158]

>>3305153
>the sword casts a shadow on the body but the hands don't

THE ABSOLUTE STATE

[Anonymous No.3305161]

>>3305158
>hands
arms*
Y'all know what I meant dammit

[Anonymous No.3305162]

>>3305153
Overall nice but I'm a little disappointed you detailed everything and didn't draw the individual fingers on the closest hand. That's visually counter-intuitive, usually detail fades as objects recede into the background. Something that's front and (literally) center being so abstracted looks pretty bizarre.

[No.3305153 No.3305165]

Okay. I'm sorry. I got too excited with just finishing this. I thought I could share it here.

And thanks for the critique. I'll make sure to pay more attention to the hand and the shadow it cast next time.

Sorry for the trouble I've caused.

[Anonymous No.3305197]

>>3305153
thank you jeff wang 18

[Anonymous No.3305201]

>>3305165
>Sorry for the trouble I've caused.

Come now, don't take it to heart anon. Those were just some crabs

[Anonymous No.3305216]

added the arm shadow

[Anonymous No.3305223]

>>3305216
Where is the shadow from her torso, where is that light source coming from?

[Anonymous No.3305239]

>>3305223
honestly, i don't even know anymore...

i'm just so tired of this after pulling an all nighter rendering.

[Anonymous No.3305244]

>>3305239
You did all you could think of to do, bro. Take a breather, smile, you made something. Take the critiques you received, write them down somewhere you'll see, and keep them in mind the next time you work on a piece. You did good.

[Anonymous No.3305245]

Extreme angles are my fetish.

>>3304912
Obligatory stop using black to shade.

[Anonymous No.3305257]

>>3304912
To build off of >>3305245
I would recommend saving black for finalized lineart as well, work in a shade of dark brown or dark red while sketching. Its easier to change lineart hue after the fact, and looks more natural. If you want to go the full nine yards, try sketching your lineart with a color similar to that of what your finished pieces shadows would be.

[Anonymous No.3305264]

>>3305153
Don't listen to these guys.
You're pretty good, anon.
Though you need to detailed the fingers and add arm shadow.

[Anonymous No.3305270]

>>3305244
Hey :)

Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.3305274]

>>3305270
Wow! Look at how tiny this crab is!

[Anonymous No.3305278]

>>3305264
>>3305155 >>3305158 >>3305162 >>3305223 are all legit critiques. Maybe not so friendly worded, but legit, and that anon knows it.
Perspective of the sword is also broken.
That anon is better than a lot of /ic/ but still not good enough.

[Anonymous No.3305280]

>>3305264
>>3305244
>gets offered decent criticism
>Don't listen to them! heres a hand on the back for you friend! please subscribe to my channel. I talk about soy products on there.

normies, 4chan, 2018, etc. go.

[Anonymous No.3305297]

>>3305153
Good.
But still a fuckload room for improvement, like what others have said:
>strange angling of the head
>shading that starts out flat cell and becomes softer towards the lower body
>very boring vanilla colours
>shading looks very unnatural (eyes don't get enough depth, metal doesn't look like metal)

[Anonymous No.3305300]

>>3305280
When the fuck did I (>>3305244
)say not to listen to them faggot? Never did I disagree with said criticism, I was attempting to encourage someone who is attempting to improve.
Nice Nu-male Wojack, Nu-male, you couldn't even use the bucket tool correctly, clearly you are the superior to everyone in this thread.

[Anonymous No.3305335]

>>3304965 establish a proper lightning setup and use reference

[Anonymous No.3305337]

>>3305335

[Anonymous No.3305338]

>>3305337

[Anonymous No.3305340]

>>3304401
Could you not?

[Anonymous No.3305347]

>>3305093
Wait, I thought porn wasn't allowed in this thread?

[Anonymous No.3305390]

more old stuff because im lazy but if anyone thinks i should continue speak now or forever hold your peace

[Anonymous No.3305453]

>>3305390
unless you're still actively working on it posting old stuff you don't really plan to revisit isn't going to help

regarding the image I like the overall feeling and design of it, although it could definitely be tightened up a lot, his left art is a puddle

[Anonymous No.3305455]

>>3305453
*left arm, our right.

[Anonymous No.3305514]

new thread >>3305513

[Anonymous No.3306135]

>>3305053
Beautiful colors and I don't have much to say about the minor misalignments but I don't llke the tangentle edge the horns and their cast shadows share. Because of the edge it makes the hair look like a liquid and the horns are sinking into it with the shadows being the silhouette. You demonstrated really good lightning knowledge with this and your paintover but don't forget composition is king. Cast shadows can form some bad tangents if you're not careful so please it mind.

[Anonymous No.3306623]

>>3303215
u made that anon?