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/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD Anonymous Fri Jan 12 17:41:29 2018 No.3273884 [Reply] [Original]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

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There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

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TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>3269976

Anonymous Fri Jan 12 17:41:40 2018 No.3273886
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ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stan Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

Anonymous Fri Jan 12 17:48:25 2018 No.3273893

After studying Keys to Drawing, Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain and Fun with a Pencil I wanted to try out Figure Drawing by Loomis.

I'm having a bit of a hard time figuring out where to start with the book. It first introduces some basic stuff like how many heads fit into a human's body, then it suddenly jumps into perspective without explanation and after several of those pages there's the part titled: WE BEGIN TO DRAW: FIRST THE MANIKIN FRAME. So is that where I'm supposed to start? What about all the previous stuff? Will it be referenced later?

Anonymous Fri Jan 12 17:50:49 2018 No.3273895

I cannot seem to grasp the concept of gestures at all. Every book and tutorial I read tells me to "just get the feel of the flow of the pose with only a few lines" and then I swear it feels like every single example is a piece with finished anatomy. I don't get it. What am I supposed to do in 60 seconds: draw a few lines to get "the action" of the pose, or finish the fucking anatomy?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 17:53:05 2018 No.3273898 File: 1.18 MB, 1218x933, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wkward I took a break of two days but I’m back Trying tu push the form I will try again. It looks awkward This exercise is from villpu videos forgive

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 17:56:00 2018 No.3273901 File: 143 KB, 638x810, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3273895 White few lines you should be available to get the gesture. Depending how much time and level you have you can take it further.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 17:57:08 2018 No.3273904 File: 284 KB, 650x581, 1511707364243.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3273893 And yet another retard bites the dust. Serves you right for falling for keys to drawing meme.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 17:58:47 2018 No.3273909 File: 36 KB, 564x705, 66e9963fa424270aff3ca3938e308de4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3273904 pls explain anon :(

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 17:59:02 2018 No.3273910 >>3273901 So I'm supposed to draw the anatomy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:00:22 2018 No.3273913 >>3273909 Read the last thread.

Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:04:07 2018 No.3273916

>>3273910
Well

First gesture
Then form ( here depending how much knowledge you have of anatomy your forms will show to the viewer, you don’t need a huge anatomy knowledge here, just proportions actually)

Then construction
Finally anatomy

(This teowork together)

The details

This is how I saw pros like villpu approach the human figure

Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:07:30 2018 No.3273918

>>3273916
I guess I'm just missing the point of the exercise. Drawing some circles and lines over the course of a minute feels like it's barely more useful than just drawing a stick figure, but apparently anatomy and gesture are the same thing and I'm supposed to be doing WAY more than just gesture when I'm being told to do gestures?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:13:06 2018 No.3273924 >>3273910 Dude Forever about learn more anatomy for now Go for gesture then apply little general knowledge to your gesture using “form” And go over the form using wrapping lines. Watch villpu videos gesture and form

Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:17:41 2018 No.3273926

>>3273918
>>3273910
>>3273895
gesture is worthless if you're doing fine art (a.k.a. the only real art)
the only people who care about gesture are failed animators and tumblr fadchasers
you don't need it
grind perspective and anatomy instead
i recommend copying bridgman for a while
he's all about construction (which is the only thing you should ever give a shit about)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:19:54 2018 No.3273927 >>3273918 Do a page of gestures and post them here. It'll be much easier for us to help you when we know where your work's at.

Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:23:46 2018 No.3273934
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>>3273884
I haven't really drawn in years. (also never really practiced back then (anatomy etc.) (yes I'm an idiot)) I began to draw this year again and started to practice anatomy, gesture etc..

Can someone please critic my drawing? I got the inspiration from this axe girl thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:25:05 2018 No.3273935 >>3273904 I don't get your problem. I'm talking about Loomis, not keys to drawing. Which is precisely about construction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:27:31 2018 No.3273939 >>3273935 Learn to ignore shitposters, anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:28:37 2018 No.3273940 >>3273935 If you cannot even read, then struggle, you fucking idiot. I spoonfeeded you enough already.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:29:04 2018 No.3273941 >>3273895 gesture is just flow, and it doesn't have to match the anatomy as closely as it seems. in fact, you shouldn't even be thinking about anatomy until you've finished the gesture.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:29:30 2018 No.3273942 >>3273939 But he is the only one that answered my actual question.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:30:48 2018 No.3273944 >>3273942 "Answered" it with a laughing anime girl picture. and calling you retarded He's just shitposting to get a rise out of you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:34:02 2018 No.3273948 >>3273904 who is the artist of this fabulous girl? Please tell me. I'll do anything..

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:37:01 2018 No.3273951 >>3273948 She's from Kakegurui, an edgy teenage manga.

Anonymous Fri Jan 12 18:41:01 2018 No.3273955

>>3273951
Oh I know that anime. I watched the whole thing in one day lol. Damn can't believe I didn't realize it sooner. Didn't know the actual manga artist was this good. Cause usually the manga art is a little downgraded from the actual anime.. cough cough AOT.

Anonymous Fri Jan 12 19:02:51 2018 No.3273968
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>>3273927
I just don't feel like I'm getting the idea behind gestures, and instead it feels like I'm skipping it and going straight to anatomy. Am I doing this right or wrong? Because it feels like I'm doing it wrong.

Anonymous Fri Jan 12 19:05:50 2018 No.3273970

>>3273934
Everything you said in your post can be seen in your drawing. It's extremely flat and the anatomy is broken. It looks like you really didn't take time or put thought into making this.

Now that the dirty stuff is out of the way, I suggest you start with Loomis's Fun With A Pencil, then when you get comfortable watch the free Traditional Drawing videos on Ctrl+Paint. That'll be a good starting point. Stick to it and you'll see improvement within a week or so.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 19:18:19 2018 No.3273978 >>3273970 thank you anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 19:18:41 2018 No.3273979 >>3273940 What? LITERALLY who the fuck are you?

Anonymous Fri Jan 12 20:28:47 2018 No.3274010
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I'm having a hard time painting. I tried blocking in the highlights and darkest spots, but I'm not sure where to go from there. I'm also trying to do it would sampling the colors directly from the ref image.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 20:39:52 2018 No.3274019 >>3273968 you need to draw looser and less detailed check out prokos gesture video on youtube for an explanation

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 20:40:58 2018 No.3274020 >>3274010 wrong values on both ends of the spectrum

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 20:43:34 2018 No.3274023 >>3274020 Is there anything I can do to be able to recognize them more accurately?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 21:29:04 2018 No.3274056 >>3274023 do still lives of objects/fruits instead of something as complex as a human being

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 21:36:37 2018 No.3274061 File: 151 KB, 128x128, 1496826842968.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3274056 Sounds good. I haven't done that since my digital painting class.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 22:00:36 2018 No.3274085 >>3273904 >anime posting crab Obviously you don't draw.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 22:04:33 2018 No.3274090 >>3274085 stop replying to bait

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 22:05:53 2018 No.3274091 >>3273904 Post your work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 22:12:06 2018 No.3274099 >>3274010 make a bunch of random grey circles on a page without looking at the value, and then match the value by going back and forth and drawing over te original circle. You've gotta train your eyes to see values

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 22:36:18 2018 No.3274119 >>3274099 I'll try that.

Angel Fri Jan 12 22:36:35 2018 No.3274121
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>>3273968
try doing simpler less detailed drawings to practice gesture. if you want to do extra studying by throwing anatomy on top thats always fine but missing the point. the purpose of the simpler drawings is to stop looking at the details of a subject, but looking at the direction and flow of its pose instead. think of directional arrows and use large sweeping strokes to indicate the gesture of an entire limb and then break it down into the next largest pieces. seriously dont concern yourself over details while practicing this, its purely to add more life to how you approach a drawing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 22:41:14 2018 No.3274123 I want to get good at drawing without any effort. I can't shit out anything decent, and my tablet is a piece of shit that doesn't work (can't calculate pressure anymore) I just want to draw sexualized Pokemon. how the fuck do I do it /ic/?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 22:45:31 2018 No.3274126 File: 172 KB, 1016x1027, my draq.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anybody have any tips on drawing in weird perspectives? I drew this a while ago and can't even come close to anything like it without it coming out looking wonky as fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 22:45:31 2018 No.3274127 >>3274123 Just believe in yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 22:45:54 2018 No.3274128 File: 276 KB, 1693x2191, robot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Long time no drawing since inktober, this is the year where I will finally get to understand those complicated ass loomis exercises.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 12 22:55:08 2018 No.3274137 File: 95 KB, 897x337, IMG_giig99.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3273951 >>3273955 She's definitely not from Kakegurui

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 00:35:59 2018 No.3274219
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Could anyone tell if this is okay/good or has any kind of advice
I've been drawing since 3 or 4 days
Its the "the new drawing on the right side of the brain" exercise and I was using nipnop clip studio paint

pls no bully

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 00:41:23 2018 No.3274221 >>3274219 >drawing on the right side of the brain Only bullying for you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 01:33:15 2018 No.3274248 I hate when I feel like I understand something, but I'm just incapable of doing it. Spent way too long trying to freehand boxes only to give in and use a line tool to correct them and then still struggle to get them right, with a grid and a line tool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 01:44:00 2018 No.3274254 >>3274248 I managed to do it after a few days of practicing. Don't give up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 01:54:52 2018 No.3274259 >>3274254 Do I really need to be freehanding it? I know it would improve some parts of it, but I don't see the point when any time I'd be doing this kind of things, I'll have a linetool or a ruler.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 02:03:03 2018 No.3274264 >>3273909 anyone try this? the hair is really difficult to even imagine.

>>	NoseBro Sat Jan 13 02:21:35 2018 No.3274277 >>3273884 if whoever draws this is still around and looking for feedback. Tell me, ill make ya a vid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 02:39:17 2018 No.3274294 >>3274277 are you proko

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 02:42:39 2018 No.3274297 >>3274221 so mean

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 02:46:22 2018 No.3274305
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Erik olson on his famous perspective course is explaining auxiliary vanishing points, and for a perfect square he's making an auxiliary vp to the station point but says it's 45 degrees.. why it isn't 30 degrees? Or all auxiliary vp are supposed to be 45?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 02:57:45 2018 No.3274317 >>3274305 >why it isn't 30 degrees? Are you fucking autistic? Diagonal splits angle of the squire into 2 equal parts, hence it's 45 degrees.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 03:05:01 2018 No.3274323 >>3274317 Oh okay I am very sorry. He was referencing 30 degrees throughout the video so I thought that there was a connection.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 03:15:44 2018 No.3274328 >>3274323 30 degrees is the radius of the cone of vision. Nothing to do with vanishing points.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 03:15:54 2018 No.3274329
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>>3273884
does someone have some tips with drawing from the shoulder, I keep going back to the wrist

I just feel like im incapable of doing it, its very frustrated ;-;

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 03:21:51 2018 No.3274332 >>3274329 Do you fucking understand why you should draw from the shoulder in the first place?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 03:26:56 2018 No.3274336 >>3274332 yeah for stuff like gesture drawing, like to be able to put down long lines that arent possible to be done with the wrist. right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 03:40:58 2018 No.3274344 >>3274336 I asked why, not for what. Think of the actual reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 04:02:34 2018 No.3274359 >>3274344 then I don't understand.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 04:28:51 2018 No.3274373

>>3274359
No wonder you keep going back to the wrist.
Draw correct ellipses free hand in the squares in perspective. Do it until you are able to get at least decent looking ones every time. You can draw as you like, from wrist or should, it doesn't matter.
Maybe this way you will be able to understand some things.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 05:04:44 2018 No.3274386
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why does this prick keep doing this? 'oh just draw a tilted plane. no, I'm not going to tell you how to draw a tilted plane for another 100 pages though' at least this time he's actually told us what page we can learn it on.

what a shitty fucking book.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 05:05:54 2018 No.3274387
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Anyone else started working with acrylics?
I wanted to try something colourful for a change after only drawing with pencils, but I'm kind of having a hard time making the transition.

So, how did/do you go about when changing mediums?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 05:09:37 2018 No.3274390 >>3274386 It was made too keep all mirroring techniques in the one place, faggot. And this is not even that important right now. Just proceed. You will need to come back and review first half of the book later anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 05:11:52 2018 No.3274392 >>3274390 ok thanku

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 06:49:24 2018 No.3274430 >>3274373 Like square planes u mean? cuz thats pretty hard man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 06:57:15 2018 No.3274432 >>3274373 Not that anon, but I have no idea where the fuck you're going with this.

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Anonymous Sat Jan 13 09:08:32 2018 No.3274503
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about 3-4 months ago i started drawing on and off for about 25 days up until now, decided to seriously get back to it and practice for at least an hour per day.

Reading loomis atm,also practicing 2 minute gesture drawing with quickpose
am i on the right track for improvement?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 10:02:29 2018 No.3274533 File: 9 KB, 243x431, Our bro ryo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I drew Ryo Asuka from Devilman I noticed the torso is a bit off and the gun is pretty simple.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 11:33:48 2018 No.3274614 >>3274123 loomis

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 11:45:27 2018 No.3274623 >>3273926 Never gonna make it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 11:56:32 2018 No.3274629 1.Can I learn to draw without buying books? 2. Is it necessary to buy a drawing pencil set?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 12:01:09 2018 No.3274635 >>3274373 i did a lot of these, still dont get u dawg.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 12:26:46 2018 No.3274659 >>3274629 yes no

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 12:34:17 2018 No.3274667 >>3274629 most books are online 4 free, if you mean without reading books that a whole different story.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 12:42:31 2018 No.3274673

>>3274121
>>3274019
Thanks for the help, anons. I'll do my best to be less detailed, but I'm not optimistic. Whenever I'm drawing, there's this nagging feeling that if I don't focus hard on the anatomy or block in the construction immediately, then the whole thing is going to be an unstructured mess. I can obviously tell that's not what actually happens, since >>3274121 is leagues better than anything I'm doing, but I don't know how to .. I don't know, unfocus? I feel like an idiot asking about it because I'm apparently making things more complex than I need to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 12:48:04 2018 No.3274680 >>3274629 books are great, but instruction from someone who knows what they're doing is even better and no you don't need a drawing pencil set, you can draw from life with shitty ballpoint pens and still progress quickly

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 12:52:06 2018 No.3274682

>>3274673
Gesture drawing is its own mindset for me. I think of it like the pre-construction phase where I'm exploring the essence of what I'm about to draw. From that you can have a better purpose of how to construct the forms to convey the message you want from the drawing. You have to do it enough where you can put yourself in the mindset to unfocus on details and draw what the shapes/forms feel like to you. It's unintuitive and deceptively difficult but it just takes practice. Eventually you'll start to incorporate it into your work and realizing how lines can be drawn "gesturally"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 13:02:57 2018 No.3274686 >>3274673 Try 30 second drawings. You can't block in anything in 30 seconds.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 13:10:14 2018 No.3274691

is drawing from photo websites like line-of-action actually hurting my development or is any practice good practice? because people on the internet talk like drawing from photos is worthless in comparison to life drawing because of lens distortion or something like that but it's not like I can get live models to draw from. and drawing randos in public is way too off-putting because people are nosy goddamn weirdos.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 13:12:26 2018 No.3274692 >>3274691 You don't understand what are you talking about. Read a book on perspective, nigger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 13:19:01 2018 No.3274695 >>3274691 You don't understand what you are talking about. Read a book on perspective, nigger.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 13:24:03 2018 No.3274696
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This >>3273934 anon here

Just like >>3273970 suggested I started today with Loomis Fun with a Pencil.

Just a quick question how do I know wich line I should I "outline" and wich not? Does it come with time or should I stick do it till I get it?

Have some practice from the first few pages that I did today. Later I practice the angels I failed to draw and go on to the next pages. (Or should

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 13:35:31 2018 No.3274703

>>3274691
Drawing from photo reference isn't going to help you as much as drawing from life because it's a lot like drawing with one eye closed; you can't see depth in a photo the same way you can in life. So, while it's probably not really going to hurt you if you're just practicing gesture, you're not going to be able to see how forms turns and twist and bend as well as you would doing life drawing.

As for drawing random people in public, you should try to get over that phobia and do it anyway. Sitting on a park bench and drawing people passing by, you can really get a feel for body types, motion, and the way age effects the two. Just close your sketchbook if you feel like somebody's getting too nosy, and if they get huffy about it, who gives a fuck? They're the one interrupting you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 13:45:44 2018 No.3274708 >>3274121 not that anon you were helping but how long did your gesture take?

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 13:55:39 2018 No.3274713

>>3274430
>thats pretty hard
Meant to be.
>>3274635
You are not trying hard enough.
You need to get correct ellipses. There is only one correct ellipse for every square. If you don't understand how to check if ellipse is correct or not, research it.
And use thin hard lines btw, easier to spot mistakes.
>>3274432
This is the exercise that naturally made me realize why you should draw from the shoulder.
Before that i didn't pay much attention to it.
Reason is pretty simple, think and you will understand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 13:56:01 2018 No.3274714 Does anybody have any "neutral standing position" reference? FUCK, why is this gesture so hard to draw

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 13:57:15 2018 No.3274715 >>3274713 You're incredibly unhelpful, please leave /beg/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:00:42 2018 No.3274721 >>3274715 I can spoonfeed, but it wouldn't be helpful. The sooner you stop being retarded and start thinking for yourself - the better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:02:58 2018 No.3274727 File: 3.02 MB, 1600x1200, wow22.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] oh man ive just been doing music and photography mostly.. it was kinda fun to sketch something up fast.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:05:16 2018 No.3274728 >>3274721 This is the beginner thread, dipshit. Beginners need actual direction or they won't go anywhere. Telling someone "it's easy, just figure it out for yourself" is completely worthless and against the point of the thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:09:25 2018 No.3274731 >>3274728 This is why i gave him hints, you fucking cretin. He had this problem for couple of weeks now, i remember his posts from before. This is the best way to help him. Basically, shut the fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:13:58 2018 No.3274736 File: 769 KB, 800x1176, 20180113_121011.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3274686 >>3274682 Okay, so these were 30 seconds. Are these better or worse than what I was doing before?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:24:23 2018 No.3274743 File: 2.57 MB, 1920x2560, 2018-01-13 20.23.21.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone tell me what I'm doing right and wrong?

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:27:48 2018 No.3274747

>>3274727
Hiding the hands and cutting off the legs at the knee is something you absolutely shouldn't be doing. You won't learn how to draw things by avoiding drawing them. Also, you're "center drawing," meaning the figure is mostly vertical, with no bends or twists, and very little dynamic movement. Try bending and twisting the forms away from the center line instead, while keeping the balance of the figure in mind. Also, you really need to practice drawing straight lines, and definitely use reference if you're going to draw technical objects like turntables.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:28:05 2018 No.3274748 File: 79 KB, 822x822, IMG_1215.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3274713 Im that anon that u told to draw those ellipses should I just do the whole draw a box, cuz i can really get consistent ellipses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:29:07 2018 No.3274750 >>3274748 cant*

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:29:31 2018 No.3274751 >>3274748 >cuz i can really get consistent ellipses. Post them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:34:47 2018 No.3274752 >>3274748 bothering with draw a box is a meme to keep you from succeeding

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:35:44 2018 No.3274753

>>3274696
Not sure what you are asking about outlines, you mean the dividing lines on the circle of the head? Those intersecting lines divide the circle into quarters and give it the illusion of being a sphere.

Your heads look alright for starting out. If you want a good challenge, try drawing a single head from multiple angles. This will help you understand form better. However, be prepared to fail a lot at first. Understanding 3D form and space is probably the biggest hurdle you'll have to make when first starting out.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:36:35 2018 No.3274754

I'm working through the ctrl+paint perspective videos. How important is it to be freehanding the boxes, sculpting, etc.? It feels like good practice to be sure, but at the same time, realistically, when will I be drawing using a perspective grid or without but aiming for accurate perspective without a straight line or line tool?

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:40:56 2018 No.3274756

>>3274743
the hair you've drawn is just a mess of lines and scribbles, making it look flat
you should think of hair in volumes
block in the major shapes first, then render
also, finishing one eye and completely obscuring the other with hair instead of drawing it is a hallmark of the beginner
you see it all the time in teenage anime art (>>3274727 is a perfect example)
draw the other eye

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:41:54 2018 No.3274757 >>3274754 Don't rely on the tools too much. You need to learn how to control the line. It would be hard to make correct curves later, because there is no straight edge to cheat with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:41:55 2018 No.3274758 File: 159 KB, 1000x999, IMG_1229.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3274751 there are alot I drew and deleted, didn't expect to post them. >>3274752 hoped for it to be my one way ticket for fundies.

Angel Sat Jan 13 14:47:06 2018 No.3274762

>>3274736
>>3274673
hey those look pretty good! as anatomy and such become ingrained in your mind, and you automatically can place certain landmarks of the body your gestures will become more correct. keep doing both kinds of study as they'll gradually meld together as you get better. things will feel unstructured now only because you're still training to make anatomy and structure a subconscious thing you automatically do. the important thing at the moment is to loosen up your drawings and learn how to sketch more freely. keep it up!

>>3274708
i dont remember, i was more focused on making it readable as instruction. gestures should be like 30 second exercises

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:48:06 2018 No.3274763

>>3274757
True enough, thanks for the input! So it would be fine to do it freehand, then if I can't get it right, use a straight edge to correct so I don't spend so much time trying to fix it though right? I've been doing the planes, boxes, and making two dots and trying to connect them in one go exercises daily to really get ahold of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:52:04 2018 No.3274764 >>3274762 Thanks for all your help, anon. Drawing without tensing up and wrapping myself up in the future finished product are still my biggest hurdles, I think, but hopefully doing more gestures will help me with that. Thanks again!

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:54:10 2018 No.3274768

>>3274758
Are you fucking trolling me, you fucking idiot?
In what world these are correct ellipses?
They look like shit.
Draw a grid, draw a square, multiply it in perspective and draw correct ellipses (FUCKING CORRECT) inside.
If you don't understand what is correct ellipse in a square, fucking research. Key words: minor axis, tangent points.
How to draw also has a chapter that can help.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:55:01 2018 No.3274769 >>3274768 Go be a complete fucking cunt somewhere else dude, seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:55:26 2018 No.3274770 >>3274763 >use a straight edge to correct Would be better to say "to clean up". You should be able to get it pretty close to "right" freehand.

Angel Sat Jan 13 14:56:13 2018 No.3274771

>>3274764
thats the glory of digital drawing, using layers to mess around with before committing to an idea. Since you're working traditionally I'd advise just not worrying about ruining a piece of paper. every good artist has thousands of shitty sketches and poorly drawn gestures no one ever sees. buy some of that nice cheap newspaper sketch paper for this kind of stuff, its really freeing working on shitty paper that you wont save.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:56:25 2018 No.3274772 >>3274770 Yeah, that's more what I meant, to get that crisp, more clear line in the end instead of the one I might've been redrawing a few times.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:56:35 2018 No.3274773 >>3274768 GRRRRRRRR ART IS SO FUCKING SERIOUS RRAARGARHGHHHHH

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:58:43 2018 No.3274776 >>3274768 read the thread before flying off the fucking handle like a babydick >>3274750 where he immediately corrected his post and can't he can't get consistent ellipses

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:59:32 2018 No.3274777 >>3274728 That's because he himself can't do them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 14:59:34 2018 No.3274778 >>3274753 ah thank you anon. I think when I fell comfortable enough i'll try this next

>>	Angel Sat Jan 13 15:00:09 2018 No.3274780 >>3274772 remember to draw more with your elbow and less with your wrist, line clarity comes with time and muscle memory

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:00:31 2018 No.3274781 >>3274777 Hey he's totally dropping harsh wisdom bombs and not just venting on people, I'm sure of it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:00:33 2018 No.3274782 >>3274773 Art is like maths, this is the way of the honorable Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:02:30 2018 No.3274784 >>3274780 Will do, currently practicing on my iPad so it's easy to accidentally go to using the wrist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:03:38 2018 No.3274785 >>3274781 and he definitely won't reply to every single one of these posts ripping on him and he certainly won't do it in his bad english and he totally won't blow up like an autist

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:04:39 2018 No.3274786 >>3274776 Why the fuck he didn't say anything when i quoted >cuz i can really get consistent ellipses ? I didn't notice the edit. Post still applies, he has to research what correct ellipse is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:08:02 2018 No.3274789 >>3274785 >bad english Examples of bad english? There are some typos, but grammar is correct.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:08:51 2018 No.3274791
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>>3273898
More exercises

Guys I feel sad and depressed. I know you don’t care but
I just one to share this

I just realize how much I love art. No one support my passion. Art was a scape, now is a deep part of me.
Even if I’m frustrated and depressed I won’t shit post.

I won’t give up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:09:14 2018 No.3274792 >>3274789 >>3274786 how about fuck off

Angel Sat Jan 13 15:11:54 2018 No.3274796
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Lets get some constructive art jamming going. use this reference and work on anything you feel is your weakest skill. It can be gesture, figure drawing, anatomy, rendering, understanding light ect.
post it and mention what you were working on, grab your feedback and do it again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:13:34 2018 No.3274799 >>3274792 Sick examples, mate. You really blown me the fuck out. How would i recover?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:14:06 2018 No.3274801 >>3274796 That is what I call a “good reference” anon Thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:14:29 2018 No.3274802 >>3274796 That's an awful reference.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:16:00 2018 No.3274803 >>3274799 >gets mad >whole post becomes an example of his shitty english true poetry

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:17:38 2018 No.3274806 >>3274802 Tell that to villpu and proko Bean section and form twist. It seems good to me. >>3273898 >>3274791

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:17:39 2018 No.3274807 >>3274803 Who are you quoting?

>>	Angel Sat Jan 13 15:18:15 2018 No.3274808 File: 40 KB, 535x752, 1465871513924.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3274801 >>3274802 hahaha, ok heres a different one if you dont like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:19:02 2018 No.3274811 >>3274803 Holly shit Just lets make art guys Holly shit Let’s get good. Dont waste time

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:19:26 2018 No.3274813 >>3274747 so basically better anatomy, not cutting out sections that are hard to draw and trying to be more dynamic.. i dont think thats gonna come in a day but maybe in two months

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:22:11 2018 No.3274816 >>3274803 >one word >whole post I edited the sentence, but forgot to change "blown" to the verb. Looks like i'm ESL subhuman after all. I will see myself out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:22:33 2018 No.3274817 >>3274813 That’s the spirit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:30:34 2018 No.3274821 File: 384 KB, 3508x2480, magnusopus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] after learning how to draw for entire week i finally finished my masterpiece. my brothers 8 years old bamboo fun will thrive again!

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:38:57 2018 No.3274827

the ellipse thing is really easy to understand, not sure how you didn't get him from the first few times. as you go up from your fingers, to wrist, to elbow, to shoulder, you have a larger axis upon which to create ellipses or straight lines. it's much easier to get consistent, confident lines from the shoulder than the wrist or fingers. if you did practice feeling how each of the ellipses felt then you'd realize it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:42:05 2018 No.3274831 Why do all these anatomy courses work towards making you a damn medical expert when its the surface anatomy that matters?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:44:37 2018 No.3274835 >>3274831 you idiot. that thing you call "medical expert anatomy course" IS surface anatomy. you have no idea how complex human body is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:45:35 2018 No.3274836 I want to get good at drawing, but there's a massive problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:46:38 2018 No.3274837 >>3274836 Alright.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:47:39 2018 No.3274838 >>3274835 Uh yeah, I do. Nice try there dumbass.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:52:41 2018 No.3274841

Is it better to study faces through line work or sculpting through values?
Should I draw the face or use brush tool to lay in values to sculpt through it when I'm studying references.
I mean it as a secondary stage after I'm done with the Loomis basics.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:57:16 2018 No.3274842 [DELETED]

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 15:58:41 2018 No.3274844 >>3274842 >anime gif >complaining about drawing A truly worthless post.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 16:05:51 2018 No.3274852 >>3274821 Is this the new contemporary “bomb” “Art bomb”

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 16:10:14 2018 No.3274860 File: 160 KB, 1280x720, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3274842 You hate doing studies You hate study fundis Fundis art tools to make art Conclusion you don’t love art as we do Leave...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 16:10:41 2018 No.3274861 >>3274860 this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 16:12:03 2018 No.3274864 >>3274860 >>3274861 do NOT tell me to quit art

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 16:27:09 2018 No.3274878 >>3274864 That is the spirit Know kill, fuck, fornicate the fundamentals. Go for it Enjoy to study art.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 16:27:56 2018 No.3274879 >>3274842 You're cute anon. Show me your anime drawings after class.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 16:49:58 2018 No.3274887 How should I go about studying anatomy? I'm not looking to do proko/vilppuesque drawings. I just want to be able to do concept art/make my own characters. I feel like anything other than surface anatomy is just wasting time.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 16:55:16 2018 No.3274892
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I found out there's life drawing sessions about a half hour away from me. What is the best to go to for a beginner, one that's a 3-hour pose, one that's a 6-hour pose, one that's several 45-minute poses, or a session that's several 5 minute poses, working up to 25 minute poses?
What can I expect from life-drawing classes? I'm not an art student, I've never been to one. I

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 16:55:59 2018 No.3274893

>>3274887

Read Hampton's "Figure Drawing: Design and Invention," and do the exercises in the book. Also, copy everything in there. Also copy and study Bridgman.

>anything other than surface anatomy is just wasting time
This is entirely incorrect. If you don't know how the underlying anatomy works and moves, your surface anatomy is going to look like shit because of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 16:57:43 2018 No.3274895 >>3274887 You don't have to know anatomy (all the technical shit), just do figure drawing till you know where every lump and bump go by heart in any perspective. :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:04:53 2018 No.3274904 >>3274893 I just don't see how the fuck I am supposed to memorize every single muscle/bone. I'm not good at remembering shit like that. Landmarks, fine, but everything else I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:09:46 2018 No.3274907 >>3274904 so draw more often. eventually you'll just know this shit. I'm not even blowing smoke up your ass, that's actually how it works. don't worry about remembering names though, that shit's completely unimportant

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:11:05 2018 No.3274909

>>3274904
dont you have your own body? when you move you can not only see but feel bones and muscles moving. how can you not "be good at remembering" things that happen to your own body everyday. dont think about drawing people like they are some foreign alien structures.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:12:40 2018 No.3274912

>>3274907

I've been watching proko videos, looking up shit, shits just not sticking for whatever reason. I can barely draw heads right, everything looks flat even when I draw what I see. I don't do that whole "symbol drawing" horseshit so idk wtf the deal is.

Meh

Anatomy is one thing, drawing clothing/characters that dont suffer from sameface syndrome is another.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:18:21 2018 No.3274919

>>3274892

Is it an actual class, or is it just a life drawing session? Classes have an instructor who will go around, talking to the artists, answering questions and pointing things out. Sometimes there will be a critique of the work made during. Whereas a session just has a model on the stand, and you draw them--no critiques, no discussion, just drawing. Make sure you know which it is, and which you actually want to attend.

In my own personal experience, I hate going to classes in my area, and find most of the "students" who attend them to be insufferable and unskilled showoffs. Sessions have been much more useful to me, since they've been populated with artists who aren't looking to show off, they already know some things and are there to improve on their own merit. I've also met more working artists at sessions than classes (which makes sense), and been able to develop a network of colleagues locally because of it.

But your mileage may vary, as every art community is different.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:19:36 2018 No.3274921 >>3274912 Please post your work, it will give us a better idea of how to help you.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:21:31 2018 No.3274922

>>3274919
It's says it's a non-instructional, drop-in session. It says it welcomes artists of all levels, but I feel kind of nervous about going in as a beginner. How do you talk to people there? For some reason, I get the idea it's deadly quiet there, like a library.

Angel Sat Jan 13 17:22:07 2018 No.3274924

>>3274904
Landmarks are the most important, but understanding musculature and which muscles will be visible depending on the action or pose they are in is really essential. knowing subconsciously how pectoral muscles lead into the shape of a breast or how shoulder muscles extend into the trapezius is what is going to make your drawings look more natural. Its not that you NEED to know names or even exactly what each muscle is, but knowing how all these shapes work together to create the human form is something you need to practice and study till it becomes a fundamental tool you use while you draw.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:22:26 2018 No.3274926 >>3274768 >muh art

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:23:25 2018 No.3274928 >>3274922 >How do you talk to people there? For some reason, I get the idea it's deadly quiet there, like a library. what else did you expect. people want to focus and do what they enjoy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:25:11 2018 No.3274929 >>3274928 Oh, I don't mean that like it's a bad thing. I'm just curious how the other anon was able to network there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:25:41 2018 No.3274930 File: 231 KB, 1200x900, 453ey45r76u5r6ut5dy76.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3274887 I like Zarins' Anatomy for Sculptors. If you also enjoy doodling simple OCs and stuff you'll probably like it since it's really terse.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:25:56 2018 No.3274932

>>3274922

That sounds like the kind of session I enjoy, where I've met complete beginners and seasoned pros alike. As for talking to people, usually people will talk before and after, but you should not talk during the session; idle chatter is distracting to basically everyone, and talking to everyone instead of drawing is a fast way to be asked to leave.

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:27:00 2018 No.3274933
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separation of values
study
please feel free to call my study shit and point out what is wrong about it. You may help me a lot.

I'm serious.

Proportion is not what I was worry about here, the study is about value separation, recognize graphic shapes. It's like the skeleton of a ilustation or a photo.

I can go further with this by doing more details on the shapes. I don't know if this is a good idea. I will look for examples.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 17:49:21 2018 No.3274961 >>3274930 +1 for Zarins, that book is really good at breaking down anatomy into simple shapes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 18:14:36 2018 No.3274990 File: 46 KB, 546x971, IMG_20180113_180243.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] waif for our floor war. tear me to shreds

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 19:02:36 2018 No.3275033

>>3274933
do you have any pieces that you're working on right now or are you only working on finding values? it seems like a thing you should just keep in mind when drawing, not really as a study.

tbf, im not very impressed by the original piece either

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 19:36:24 2018 No.3275072 >>3274933 what's the reference you're using?

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 19:49:21 2018 No.3275087
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Sketching this up and was hoping to get a fresh set of eye that could tell me if perspective (is always one of the harder things for me) of the helmet looks right or how I should improve it a bit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 19:56:24 2018 No.3275095 >>3274990 She's bee- eautiful. More pls

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 20:51:57 2018 No.3275149 3.how to learn to draw from copying the others' work?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 21:21:56 2018 No.3275187 File: 416 KB, 751x749, reclining.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Can't find pic I need for lesson >Can't ask for help What do?

Anonymous Sat Jan 13 21:28:25 2018 No.3275193
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>>3275187
You're too much of a fucking idiot to understand the lesson.

I can already tell you right now you're not going to succeed because you lack critical thinking. ANY FUCKING FORSHORTENED PICTURE WILL BE GOOD FOR THIS TASK. Here's one. Measure that shit and make me proud, brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 21:32:35 2018 No.3275198 i csp better than the krita and medibang?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 21:34:06 2018 No.3275202 File: 32 KB, 688x578, jubst.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3275193 Sorry anon. I'll be smarter next time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 23:37:33 2018 No.3275322 File: 342 KB, 1000x1333, IMG_1069.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I am trying to draw realistic from observation but I hate it. Pic related is best I can do and it looks nothing like the actual subject. I just wanna draw cute anime girls man

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 23:40:12 2018 No.3275326 >>3275322 Then draw cute anime girls from observation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 13 23:44:29 2018 No.3275333 em bois, how can i use the vanishing points to build bodys?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 00:43:05 2018 No.3275355 If there is framed ink download without page 105 missing? I found two versions 55mb and 30mb. 30mb is just cleaned up version, it uses the same scans, page 105 is still missing. Please help.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 01:02:31 2018 No.3275364 File: 106 KB, 1492x675, draw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i tried to draw oprah

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 01:28:26 2018 No.3275386 File: 95 KB, 500x625, 26345552_1714875545249428_7041857382988644352_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3275370 sorry had to resize

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 01:51:22 2018 No.3275398 File: 41 KB, 1000x1110, 3424254rtg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Feedback please.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:09:32 2018 No.3275408

I've spent a few years now practicing digital painting. I started out in color/edit threads on /d/ and /h/ because it was something I could actually focus on, and I've improved a lot of the years. Well now I've hit a wall. I've reached the point where I can paint people/clothing/landscapes extremely well if I have line-art to work with, but can't draw a single thing myself. I tried just picking up a sketchbook and going at it trying to draw what i wanted, but I got nowhere at all. I felt completely out of place not in front of a screen.
Should I just drop a few hundred on a drawing tablet with a screen? I feel retarded asking this, but not being able to use a single skill I've gained over this much time is painful.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:17:01 2018 No.3275414 >>3275408 >Should I just drop a few hundred on a drawing tablet with a screen? They cost over 1000 and no, if you cannot draw in a sketchbook you won't be able to draw with a tablet.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:22:01 2018 No.3275417
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Does anyone have a video that explains symbol drawing well?

I have a friend that does it and i cant explain what it is, and any of the two resources i could find explain how to stop symbol drawing but not what it is.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:22:12 2018 No.3275418

>>3275414
But at least i would be able to use a medium im used to to practice, and gain skill on what I intend to use it for. My sister has been drawing for about as long as i've been painting, and cant use her tablet at all. Using her as an example of what i don't want to happen, wouldn't it be best to use what I intend to use later, from the start?

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:34:06 2018 No.3275421

>>3275418
The majority of skills you learn in any medium are transferable, as well as the patience and discipline you develop. In the interest of saving money there is no reason to buy a tablet when you have so much to learn. Similarly, when you want to get into oil paints you start with charcoal so you can practice all the necessary skills without blowing all your money.

>My sister has been drawing for about as long as i've been painting, and cant use her tablet at all.
I can't make any conclusions unless I look at her physical and digital work. I think it is more likely that she is shit at drawing all together than the tablet's fault.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:36:27 2018 No.3275423 >>3275398 proportions, anatomy, gesture

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:49:20 2018 No.3275433 How do I learn from copying?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:52:48 2018 No.3275437 >>3275433 Experience. Just like tracing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:55:07 2018 No.3275438 >>3275417 Leave this board, you stupid normalfag.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:55:37 2018 No.3275440 >>3275437 learn from copying is just trying my best to draw it as same as the author did?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:56:11 2018 No.3275441 >>3275440 Sure.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 02:57:54 2018 No.3275444 >>3275440 Yeah. Welcome to the NGMI club btw.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:06:32 2018 No.3275451 Where should I start? From basic shapes? I tried to google the shapes, it gave me unwanted results Is pencil better than the mechanical? >anything that mechanical pencils can't do?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:09:03 2018 No.3275452 >>3275451 Just start. >Is pencil better than the mechanical? Doesn't matter. I cold smear my shit on a piece of paper and create something better than you ever could with the most expensive pencil in the world.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:11:06 2018 No.3275454 >>3275451 Pencil can be tilted to achieve broad, soft lines that are good for shading. Having to sharpen them is irritating though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:18:50 2018 No.3275459 >>3275451 You can't smell the freshly sharpened pencil.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:19:58 2018 No.3275462
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Where do I start learning color? Every book or video about it is shallow or retarded. I've already noted the majority of artists can't teach for shit, it's like they all have retardation when it comes to pass knowledge to someone.

I've downloaded color theory NMA videos and the guy just draws shit and expects everyone to understand what's going on. Also Color and Light by Gurney is just him talking like a random person would talk about light to you in a bus stop.

I need exercises.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:25:30 2018 No.3275466 >>3275462 Go color or you're not gonna make it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:27:51 2018 No.3275467 >>3275466 Wait, what?

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:39:01 2018 No.3275476

>>3275033
I make a finished painting every 2 weeks

Right now I’m just working on studies, figure drawing, line quality with pen dynamic bible exercises, block in, graphic shapes, values.

On this study I’m looking for graphic shapes , value, and a little about composition, this two is what makes a illustration super good even if you are no drawing realistically.
The goal here is to know how to separate the local values with shapes of the painting like a visual map.
I can tell you where I got this information and this kind study of you want.
If you honk I’m doing wrong, please tell me where.

>>3275072
Anon is beside the shapes
I think my study was so bad that you didn’t realize about it,
I will do better

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:40:25 2018 No.3275479 >>3275441 >>3275444 didnt know it was mislead beginners day

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:42:28 2018 No.3275481 >>3275440 it is usually about seeing how someone else solved a problem you have solved or tried to solve

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:42:33 2018 No.3275482 >>3275479 But it isn't.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:52:20 2018 No.3275491 My family thinks I’m useless because I’m studying art. I will get good really good and I will show them my master pieces after 15 years

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:53:23 2018 No.3275493 >>3275491 So does everyone else here, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 03:56:45 2018 No.3275494 >>3275493 Sniff It feels hard sometimes That is why some people shit post here because their frustrations.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 04:01:34 2018 No.3275497 this thread is useless

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 04:08:19 2018 No.3275500 >>3275497 I'm useless.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 05:44:42 2018 No.3275538 >>3275497 welcome to beg

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 06:31:02 2018 No.3275554 >>3275491 >I will show them my master pieces after 15 years Trust me, 15 years is a really long time, some members of your family might not even live that long.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 06:40:37 2018 No.3275559 >>3274768 i never learned any of these, thats why I ask if I should do draw-a-box.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 06:44:08 2018 No.3275561 >>3275559 I told you what to do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 06:47:38 2018 No.3275563 File: 78 KB, 486x750, F7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 06:49:39 2018 No.3275565 File: 208 KB, 1000x700, 20180114_123917.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looking for tips on how to improve

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 06:50:17 2018 No.3275566 File: 78 KB, 486x750, F7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3275565 Here's the picture. Don't know why 4chan turns it around.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 06:51:55 2018 No.3275567 File: 78 KB, 486x750, F7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3275565 Here's the picture.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 06:52:57 2018 No.3275568 >>3275567 However I edit it beforehand 4chan turns it around for some reason.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 07:38:26 2018 No.3275594

I've been watching speedpainting videos and noticed that the intial sketch is pretty mediorcre all the details come from painting, so my questions is would it be best to just to use a sketch to get the general proportion correct and spend most of my time learning how to paint features.

Example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chG_GGTAQLM

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 07:48:12 2018 No.3275600 File: 729 KB, 1344x756, 1499767371265.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3275364 Draw more Oprah for the 2020 election

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 12:24:53 2018 No.3275765 >>3275554 So I’m gonna learn them faster. Hell yeah

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 12:39:21 2018 No.3275776
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long time friend has a weird obsession with my "art" and has pressed me to make them things for years

requested a tattoo based on some other images they showed me with a generic reaper/scythe and stuff like " a wasted life is worse than death" on it

i declined doing it for a while but had these words repeating in my head as my own self-motivating mantra for a few days and desired to draw something similar to this, so asked if they would be alright with me doing a lion--this is what i generally draw

they said OK

i approached it differently and utilized generic tattoo ribbon format

how is this for a sketch? i do not normally work with anything intended for a tattoo.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 12:48:00 2018 No.3275784

>>3275594
"would it be best to just to use a sketch to" - yes and no. Do not skip steps when you are a beginner, people that know how to paint( or draw for that matter) faces won't need a detailed underdrawing to paint the final. But if you don't know or have not drawn a good head before, enfasis drawn, I recommend going through the whole process.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 12:49:08 2018 No.3275787 Anyone got any tutorials on paintin fur coats on photoshop

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 12:58:09 2018 No.3275795 >>3275565 Not horrible, get better references and keep practicing.

>>	Angel Sun Jan 14 13:03:20 2018 No.3275797 >>3275565 try working on gray sketch paper so you already have a midtone covering your entire canvas, and then you can practice values and shading easier with white charcoal and darker blacks. you'll learn more

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 13:04:49 2018 No.3275798 >>3275776 pls dont get that tattoo, get a prof to rework it maybe. not to be mean or anything :I

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 13:05:57 2018 No.3275800 i was told frequently over the last month that my figures lacked gesture. here i am practicing gesture. please advise. i cant see the flaws here so please crit me so i can see them

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 13:09:37 2018 No.3275805 >>3275800 sent :`)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 13:10:53 2018 No.3275808 >>3275800 Very good, technically sound.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 13:11:20 2018 No.3275809 File: 314 KB, 2000x1315, gestures.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3275800

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 13:13:27 2018 No.3275813 I don't even know where to begin, I've been watching Proko vids, etc. I don't know exactly HOW to practice, how much to practice at a time, etc. I don't know if I should focus on one limb at a time or what. Any suggestions?

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 13:19:11 2018 No.3275818

>>3275813
The most important thing is that you drop the anxiety and start drawing. As with other activities, you will get familiar with what you do and if you're capable of self criticism you will see problem areas that can be improved on. The more specific questions like if you should draw for one hour or two hours or do a handstand every 5 minutes are so individual that something that works for one guy might not be super optimal for you.

If nothing else, try doing some drawings and post them here, with some luck you'll get constructive critique

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 13:29:23 2018 No.3275824

>>3275818

I just get discouraged because these anatomy courses have you drawing muscular examples out the ass and I'm just looking to do concept art/my own characters for comics and shit, nothing manga wise until maybe after ive gotten good drawing realistic shit.

Memorizing all of the bones/muscles/etc just makes me wanna shoot myself because thats a fuck ton of information to try and retain/put to use.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 13:40:16 2018 No.3275830

>>3275798
please read: i am not the one getting it
it is a friend who has harassed me for years to make them something, who specifically wants my art

could you please point out what about it is wrong/needs reworking though? or are you just trying to be needlessly negative because oh no, only someone who gets paid can make stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 13:41:40 2018 No.3275832 >>3275809 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOtVUHgJqQk

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 13:50:23 2018 No.3275836

>>3275824
I think you have an unhealthy way of looking at it. Suppose that 100 hours of anatomy studies are required to get a basic understanding of surface anatomy. You can either look at it as this huge slog that you have to get through 5 hours a day for like 3 weeks before you're allowed to have fun, or you can just spread those hours out over a 1000 hour journey and start drawing and looking things up in an anatomy book every time you notice something's wrong. This will place each referencing in a context which practically means that you will learn more and feel a small victory when you suddenly draw a bodypart better than you could 30 minutes ago, instead of jumping in as a (presumed) noob who lacks the skills to even digest all those little details.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 13:53:46 2018 No.3275839 >>3275830 i just looks fundamentally lacking, but if your friend insists

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 13:56:41 2018 No.3275840 >>3275839 fundamentally lacking in what way? anatomically? compositionally? stylistically? lack of enough going on in the image?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:09:08 2018 No.3275849 >>3275839 Not that guy, but post your work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:13:31 2018 No.3275851 File: 253 KB, 1500x1125, Untitled_Artwork-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3275849 still pretty beg, but you dont need to be a pro to know not to tattoo >>3275776 on u

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:16:08 2018 No.3275854 >>3275851 >critiques others work >doesn't even know how to multiply square in perspective Absolute state of /ic/, ladies and gentlemen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:16:57 2018 No.3275857 File: 225 KB, 1600x1236, Concept - StrangerPencils2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3275836 I just want to AT LEAST get to a level of doing something like this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:18:36 2018 No.3275859 >>3275857 Yeah but you'll still learn more and have more fun if you do anatomy in bits.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:23:42 2018 No.3275868

>>3275809
you don't copy the models when you draw gesture. you're drawing the essence of the form, feeling how it flows. it's ok to exaggerate the poses. a majority of your lines are very static and straight lines with no energy. experiment with csi, c-curves, s-curves, and "lines". the vilppu vid linked is good but here are some others you've hopefully seen before. try to see what the difference is between what you're doing and what they're doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ktfwayByRU#t=2m49s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74HR59yFZ7Y

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:23:45 2018 No.3275869 >>3275854 >tfw when ur literally the worst at giving advise ever :I

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:26:30 2018 No.3275874 >>3275868 all of them start with an long curve for the lineofaction, after that i add in the blocks. isnt that correct? should i start using curved forms in the place of blocks?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:30:24 2018 No.3275882 >>3275874 you don't even sound like you're trying to understand.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:33:55 2018 No.3275887
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I'm a beginner, but yesterday I stumbled over Sycra's Youtube channel. I watched these three videos:

Iterative Drawing - The Fastest Way to Improve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ufz75UvHs

How to Practice Drawing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKFfSl-EBfI

How to Draw Eyes - From Realistic to Cartoons to Manga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBadnTAzQFc

I First watched the Iterative Drawing one and tried it out. Then after that I watched How to Practice Drawing where I noticed how he Sycra doodled his way to something that looked good, then enforced the best lines.

I then took what I had learned from the iterative drawing process and combined it with that "doodling" way + the info from the eyes vid, and the result was stunning (at least I think so myself).

I can only recommend practicing this way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:35:32 2018 No.3275889 >>3275882 should i start using curved forms in the place of blocks?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:36:51 2018 No.3275893 >>3275887 You not in position to "recommend" ways to practice, you fucking shitter.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:39:04 2018 No.3275896

>>3275887
To be fair, I had also watched some videos from Ctrlpaint.com + a couple of other youtube ones, so I knew how to use layers, keyboard shortcuts, and such already. But what I could actually draw when from A to B in those 10 hours.

I know I have a long way before I can create good art. Right now that profile type pic is the ONLY thing I can draw, but I really believe this iterative drawing way is how to improve fastest. I really hope this inspires somebody else to do the same.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:40:45 2018 No.3275899 >>3275193 That is such a disturbing picture. How do you even draw that guy's face?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:41:26 2018 No.3275900 >>3275893 Thank you for adding to the discussing in a meaningful way. I am sure your comment will help me as well as many others to strive and improve our art :)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:44:05 2018 No.3275902 why are people in this thread so toxic, why cant they just adress people normally instead of calling them names. im pretty sure is just one guy insulting everyone, if that is the case: pls stop

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:49:30 2018 No.3275905
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>>3275899
You look at it and draw what you see, carefully.
Here's a female if that particular model bothers you.

>>3275202
I believe in you. Read the chapters and think about what you're supposed to achieve with each task, you'll soon realize all of them are pretty much "use this thing you've just read in the chapter, and draw what you see"
Make sure you understand the concepts clearly though, don't rush.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:50:06 2018 No.3275907

>>3275887
>I can only recommend practicing this way.
This is pompous especially based on what you've displayed. The videos you posted are meant for beginners to show that there isn't talent, you get better from doing something over and over again. Many people know this already but many don't until they see this for themselves. You draw like a young teenager so that's why it wasn't received well.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:50:14 2018 No.3275908

>>3275851
you don't need to be a pro to tell something's shit, but if you're critiquing from an artist's perspective (which you are, a non-artist would never say "fundamentally lacking"), you have to at least know what the fuck you are talking about. It's clear as day you don't have any actual advice for the anon, you just decided to be a faggot for no reason other to feel better about yourself.

in short: enjoy your bucket, crab

>>3275776
it's a cool sketch. when you refine it, look for some references on how other people design tattoos regarding transparency and stuff like that. I don't know your usual style but it would probably be a good idea to make a solid lineart and filling in color if you decide to use any.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:51:22 2018 No.3275910

>>3275902
This. Thanks for those word.

But well... It can't be helped when you are on 4chan. All the trolls from /b/ lurks around and look for people to troll. And what better place is there than in an art beginners thread. Lots of nervous, inexperienced artists putting their work out in the open. They are the perfect targets to pounce on.

But luckily you get used to them :) If all someone can do is name calling, then it simply means it's a bored teenager in the other end... Or at least I hope so. God forbid it being a grown up that has so little life that they will spend their time trolling on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:54:02 2018 No.3275914 >>3275908 just wanted to save that anon from tattooing something that he or his friend might regret :(

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:57:49 2018 No.3275922

>>3275907
I know it isn't good. I'm also fine with it not getting a fantastic reception. I didn't post it because I think I'm "hot shit".

I simply think that the 3 three videos I mentioned are good for beginners to watch, since they give a structured way to practice.

And the author of the videos have many years of experience, and his art is pretty good, so I can't see why its bad to recommend his videos.

I don't get why it's pompous of a beginner to recommend videos to other beginners.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 14:59:10 2018 No.3275923 >>3275905 Perspective is hard. I don't know what it is about that guy's face that disturbs me so hard. I'll have to check out the Hyper Angle books, seems like a really good way to practise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:06:08 2018 No.3275936 File: 34 KB, 377x499, IMG_20180114_204502.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3273884 Some of my todays "studies" from Fun with a Pencil. I think tomorow I'll try to draw the same face from different angels. Hope that I'll get that!

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:07:25 2018 No.3275937
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So funny seeing all these crabs scream "only friendly advice, respect me".
Not only you are being retarded, but you also look for an easy way, don't expect to be treated as equal.
Know your place.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:07:39 2018 No.3275939

>>3275923
You're not studying perspective yet. Are you the guy I called a brainlet?

Read the chapter and simply do as it says. Measure it, mark the midpoint, try to draw what you see. It's not that hard. It might not end up looking great but it's a start. We all have to start somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:09:58 2018 No.3275943 >>3275939 No, I'm a different person. I have a lot of troubles with perspective but I'll follow your advice and keep at it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:15:05 2018 No.3275953 >>3275937 post work or gtfo

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:17:29 2018 No.3275955 >>3275937 Wow, much superior complex in this one

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:19:39 2018 No.3275957 >>3275914 Are you incapable of writing a sentence without a smiley at the end?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:21:33 2018 No.3275961 >>3275957 Are you the same person that has written all the other useless troll comments in this thread?

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:24:08 2018 No.3275966
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>>3275908
making lineart for it yeah that was just cleaned up sketch to get everything sorted

i will probably color it as a personal piece but they aren't sure on if they want to have it colored or b/w or what and coloring would more or less, i assume, depend on the style the tattoo artist paints in rather than copying my own painting style

i am trying to figure out this now though

what did you mean by "transparency" though?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:25:18 2018 No.3275967 >>3275957 whats wrong with writing smileys at the end of a sentence? >:I

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:26:25 2018 No.3275968 >>3275961 >he disagrees with me, so he must be trolling He is right, fuck off back to your safe-space shithole or leave your retarded habits back there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:29:00 2018 No.3275971 >>3275968 >he is right >samefag kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:36:40 2018 No.3275978 File: 80 KB, 800x590, ready-to-die_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3275966 "be ready to die everyday" lmao

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:40:39 2018 No.3275979

>>3275978
it's a thing common in catholicism and buddhism; to be mindful of your own death every day in your actions. there is a fair amount written under "meditations on [your own] death".
some catholic monk (iirc it was a monk) went so far as to keep a coffin in his living room to constantly remind him.

person requested something based on images that had similar sentiments.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:42:20 2018 No.3275981 File: 1.07 MB, 1366x768, Screenshot (12).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] test this is after the separation of shapes and local values.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:46:51 2018 No.3275984 >>3275981 >signing your studies Why you keep signing it? You think someone would steal this shit, you fucking retard?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:50:27 2018 No.3275990 >>3275984 Anon I use this name just in 4chan This is not my real name O can explain you why I sign it with a fake name here

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:51:30 2018 No.3275991 >>3275984 who hurt u? y u insult everyone and samefag?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:53:45 2018 No.3275993 >>3275984 Here is a illustration with my real name

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:54:43 2018 No.3275994 File: 1.30 MB, 1713x1700, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3275993 My painting No copy

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 15:56:06 2018 No.3275997

>>3275990
>O can explain you why I sign it with a fake name here
Really would like to hear why you want a name on an anonymous imageboard.

>3275991
I wouldn't even bother giving you (You)s anymore.
You proved you are retarded well enough already, when you assumed that only one person can disagree with you and he also must be trolling.

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:03:32 2018 No.3276007

>>3275997
Fake name in a anonymous board...... hahah what the probablemente then?

I’m not assuming anything,

I sign with a fake Name to know what studies I made and I uploaded, I forget them. Doing this I will just know that that is my study.
I don’t use this name on my paintings.
I apologize if I’m annoying someone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:03:57 2018 No.3276008 File: 313 KB, 709x1002, 1450572449677.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3275979 MEMENTO MORI

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:04:40 2018 No.3276009 >>3276007 it's annoying to everyone and the "name" sounds incredibly stupid

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:05:52 2018 No.3276012 >>3275905 Was randomly scrolling through the thread and I'm also working through the same book as the anon you berated. I'll be sure to keep your words of advice in mind.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:08:04 2018 No.3276015 >>3276008 yes i think at face value most people read stuff centered around that concept to be edgy/nihilistic/"i want to die/suicide" though

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:08:49 2018 No.3276017 >>3276007 >I sign with a fake Name to know what studies I made and I uploaded, I forget them. What is the point in studies, if you just "forget" them, you cretin? Admit that you just want to namefag and get shit on or stop.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:10:49 2018 No.3276018 >>3276008 that's not aegis :(

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:12:05 2018 No.3276020 >>3276008 memento mori literally translate to "remember the dead" "be ready to die everyday" is a different thing altogether.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:14:35 2018 No.3276022 >>3276020 >remember the dead Autistic? It's "the death", not "the dead".

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:15:04 2018 No.3276023 File: 154 KB, 555x432, 1512088250924.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3276020 It says "remember you have to die" on wikipedia >>3276018 sorry anon

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:15:07 2018 No.3276024

>>3276020
Memento mori (Latin: "remember that you have to die")[2] is the medieval Latin Christian theory and practice of reflection on mortality, especially as a means of considering the vanity of earthly life and the transient nature of all earthly goods and pursuits. It is related to the ars moriendi ("The Art of Dying") and similar literature. Memento mori has been an important part of ascetic disciplines as a means of perfecting the character by cultivating detachment and other virtues, and by turning the attention towards the immortality of the soul and the afterlife.[3]

In art, memento mori are artistic or symbolic reminders of mortality.[2] In the European Christian art context, "the expression [...] developed with the growth of Christianity, which emphasized Heaven, Hell, and salvation of the soul in the afterlife".[4]

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:15:19 2018 No.3276026

>>3276009
I apologize.

I must be retarded. I should do better.

Even my studies are lame everything is lame on me.
I need to be elite.
I will improve.
I will stop naming and stop posting here.

>>3276017

Forget them but I don’t forget what I learn.
Look I want to show I’m working every day that is the other reason. You can see I post always here.
I know you guys don’t care but for me is different. You won’t understand.

I apologize I won’t post here again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:17:09 2018 No.3276027 >>3276026 >I apologize I won’t post here again. Alright. See you tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:17:26 2018 No.3276028 >>3273895 Feel of the flow... That's a unclear instruction I think it's a explain about how body tilted ,twisted. Etc

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:25:09 2018 No.3276036 >>3276024 whoopsie daisy! guess that's why i had the worst grades in latin

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:29:36 2018 No.3276042 File: 231 KB, 1200x900, 45rtge35yt35y.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:30:19 2018 No.3276044 File: 65 KB, 1100x825, gradientfield.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3276028 it's not unclear, surfaces have flows

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:32:38 2018 No.3276047 >>3275981 It’s shit you retarded fag leave

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 16:40:38 2018 No.3276050 >>3274743 You put your signature on a sketch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:05:08 2018 No.3276080 File: 343 KB, 2000x1337, gesturesm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3275809 started to use round forms instead of boxes after the critique i received. please advise

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:10:59 2018 No.3276087 >>3275981 You almost got the arm right. Good job. :)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:13:09 2018 No.3276089 >>3276080 it doesn't matter what shape the forms are. you still miss the point or are intentionally trolling

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:16:25 2018 No.3276093

>>3276080
It's a bit stiff. You should decide whether you want to be precise or expressive before sketching and follow through. If you decide to be precise you shouldn't let shapes be different just because it feels right. And if you decide to be expressive you shouldn't let shapes look weird just because they're correctly positioned. Keep that mindset and I'm sure you'll improve. :)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:17:16 2018 No.3276094 >>3276080 >was told gestures are feeling essence >not feeling the essence still ??????

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:31:49 2018 No.3276109
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>>3276027
Hahah
Okay guys now serious,
I won’t namefag again because I love you.

Here is another study I made

Feel free to tell me what is wrong about it
I can see my design skills are lame.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:39:58 2018 No.3276116 >>3276089 well then explain, i plot the line of action then try and construct forms on it, just like villpu does in his video. anon didnt like the boxes so now they are rounded. what am i missing here?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:44:53 2018 No.3276127 >>3276080 Dude do this with pencil and paper first O my fucking lord.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:46:01 2018 No.3276130 >>3276127 he strikes me as the kind of guy who'll vehemently defend his use of digital (for some reason)

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:46:53 2018 No.3276133
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anyone else just waste all their time shitposting and pissing about an barely spend any time drawing? how do i rectify this? it's so easy to just spend all day shitting around

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:47:35 2018 No.3276135 >>3276130 >>3276127 samefag

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:48:05 2018 No.3276136
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>>3276109
perspective looks off on the big guy. if you have to question it, measure it and find out. designs seem ok on both but the far half of the ship is way too small.

imprecise paint since that's all i have atm. green line is roughly where the other bounds of the second half should be but it depends on your construction.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:48:49 2018 No.3276137 File: 77 KB, 1052x843, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3276135 huh

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:50:03 2018 No.3276139 >>3276133 You like the thought of being an artist rather than actually being an artist. If you were serious about drawing then you would have disciplined yourself by now. Go back to video games and anime as your main "hobbies."

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:51:51 2018 No.3276143

>>3276137
>on a board where most uses have photoshop installed
>thinks that proves anything
its blatantly a samefag as its the evident consensus that digital is a sound medium, you are just that one phaggot who has a spergrage vendetta against it for some reason

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:51:58 2018 No.3276144 >>3276136 Thank you so much man I can see it now god thank you I’m gonna do better same design let see what happens

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:52:14 2018 No.3276145 >>3276140 >>3276140 >>3276140 >>3276140 >>3276140 >>3276140 >>3276140 >>3276140 >>3276140

Anonymous Sun Jan 14 17:54:03 2018 No.3276149

>>3276143
you have to resort trying to call me a "samefag" to deflect the fact that you should be learning your fundamentals on paper and pencil (like everybody else)? what sort of mental gymnastics are you going through? i don't understand what you're looking for here anymore

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 14 19:22:35 2018 No.3276264 >>3276149 >you should be learning your fundamentals on paper and pencil (like everybody else)? Not him, but why? What is the reason?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 00:04:19 2018 No.3276462 >>3274533 I Like the old style looking gun. Gives the authentic 70s feel

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 22:48:35 2018 No.3277647 >>3273948 >>3273951 >>3273955 >>3274137 Mizuha wa Ijippari \| Mizuha is Stubborn by Menea the Dog

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 22:53:39 2018 No.3277652 >>3273895 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74HR59yFZ7Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j39NqwL7s4 Identify the big picture of the pose and exaggerate features. The point is that poses can be expressed in very few lines.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 15 23:04:10 2018 No.3277660 >>3275809 you're that guy from the /r/learntodraw subreddit aren't you

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