/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.3243619]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>3240924

[Anonymous No.3243620]

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stan Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

[Anonymous No.3243635]

Here's a running pose I'm trying out with a geometric character. I know the head isn't so good but how'd I do with the body?

[Anonymous No.3243636]

[Anonymous No.3243640]

This exercise, the main goal was to copy a master sketch by Michelangelo using block in, to the right I have mi first try, to the left the second try.

I must say the reference pic was small so I was “translating” a drawing to a different dimension. The last sketch to the left was the second try and I felt more confident after learning about my mistakes from the first try.

25 minutes one sketch.

[Anonymous No.3243647]

>>3243635
Nice to see people attempting forms.

In a running pose the pelvis isn't facing forward, but usually faces in the (not a complete) opposite direction of the chest. Nor is it tilted that far down.

Think about how you actually run. Do you really move your elbow above your shoulder?

Last of all.. why don't you just print scrn and post using that chrome browser you have open on your desktop instead of using your phone camera?

[Anonymous No.3243653]

>>3243635
The right arm with the should is wrong. Specially the perspective.
You are trying Mecha right?

The connection between the boxy rib cage and the abdomen doesn’t make sense because it looks flat and the rib cage no.

The ellipses of the legs are flat.

Keep working anon! You can’t do it.

[Anonymous No.3243656]

>>3243653
I mean you can do it! Sorry my keyboard.

[Anonymous No.3243667]

>>3243653
I'm doing robots but I guess you can call it Mecha.

[Anonymous No.3243689]

UPDATE: I fixed the head. It matches my ref sheet a little better

[Anonymous No.3243707]

Fuck me this is boring.

[Anonymous No.3243713]

Hows this looking boys?

>>3243635
looks like you gave up on making it 3d below the chest
>>3243636
really need to work on your lines sempai
>>3243640
beautiful work, not sure about that thumb tho
>>3243707
draw bigger

[Anonymous No.3243716]

>>3243713
Fuck that, the only thing I have that's bigger is newsprint and that shit is unwieldy. Maybe after I square up proportions and put it all in practice.

[Anonymous No.3243717]

Just some birds from photos. Boring stuff.

[Anonymous No.3243718]

>>3243713
Lol the “thumb” is a life drawing. My hand lol my thumb
I know is wrong, I’m using Bridgman hand poses p, I do the poses with my hand, draw them and then I make comparisons.

Thanks for the commentary.

[Anonymous No.3243719]

>>3243717
How dare you call “boring” drawing birds?

By the way I like the drawings lol

Do you feel a little weird sometimes when making unusual pencil strokes? Just asking

I have that feeling with some strokes
, I don’t know if I’m holding the pencil in the right way for that specific stroke.
See my study below

>>3243640

[Anonymous No.3243720]

>>3243716
Oh haha the picture made it look small my bad.
>>3243718
Would you recommend bridgeman for hands? I'll I've done for that is proko's free stuff

[Anonymous No.3243722]

>>3243707

Be careful if you jump straight to anatomy, before know how to draw the construction of what you want to study

[Anonymous No.3243724]

>>3243720
I mean I'm actually going to work bigger.

>>3243722
What is anatomy other than the construction of what I want to study? I keep hitting the wall doing figure studies and working from imagination and have some free time, so here we are.

[Anonymous No.3243729]

I'm really self conscious of my drawing from life. I seem to be walking around the academic way, but I can't quite put a finger on what my pitfalls are. Just doesn't look as right and convincing.


I wish anon from russian academy who seems to come here would tell.

It's about two hours of work.

Now the amusing thing is the boy on it is 16 years old, in rl he looked 20, here I don't even know...

>>3243719
those are photos, I'm not drawing anything real and tangible and that's boring to me.

What do you mean by unusual. I often make awkward movements with my hand, which only point out it's not trained enough yet, like some loose strokes, and it does make me tick. You might want to try to stretch a piece of paper on something vertical and just try to draw accurate lines on there. Like make two dots at some distance from each other and try to connect them in one fell swoop. It's a nice exercise for training a hand.

[Anonymous No.3243730]

>>3243720
Of course, Bridgman is good in any meaning. The special thing about him is that he teach you the “necessary” anatomy that makes a hand look like a hand. I explain myself

He just use simple strokes and he gives a lot of information without details. Just what our brain needs to recognize the part of the body you are drawing. Also he teach important anatomy issues. (We know simple does not mean easy)

Just by copying and analyzing one page I learned a lot. Just imagine if you combine his notes with “life drawing” in one day I was available to draw a decent(no wonderful) hand.

[Anonymous No.3243734]

[Anonymous No.3243738]

>>3243729
Looks like a solid drawing to me, I don't know what aspect of it you're not being convinced by.
The only thing that I'd say is that all that mark making helps define the form, but also looks preliminary and maybe even makes the subject look older than he is.
Maybe try rendering some, working in charcoal or graphite

[Anonymous No.3243740]

>>3243729

Unusual: like not used to it. Not common.
Oh yeah I do that warm ups, I was curious because as you said, often I make awkward strokes; like my arm shakes or something.

We just need more practice

[Anonymous No.3243745]

>>3243734
What is your goal on this?
Tell so we can know better how to critic no saying everything is wrong.

[Anonymous No.3243750]

>>3243745
their just sketches for warmup. i dont save them so i like to post them.

this is what it looks like when i steal values. huge difference

[Anonymous No.3243752]

>>3243750
oops

[Anonymous No.3243756]

Hand studies with Bridgman.

Simple line drawings. I feel like I’m understanding what to look for when drawing from life.

[Anonymous No.3243760]

>>3243738
Maybe it's that I can't get past that preliminary draft look. I specifically tried drawing only in lines, because I felt more and more that cross-hatching and adding value are just means for me to hide my inferior abilty. The academic stuff is just so precise, every dot lies in it's rightful place. I don't know if I have it in me to do like it sometime. And even that is just a stepping stone, something to outgrow.

[Anonymous No.3243764]

How did I do /ic/? I know I made her ass too thick, and could have gone darker in some areas but are there any other glaring issues?

[Anonymous No.3243765]

>>3243764
>too thick
no such thing

[Anonymous No.3243767]

>>3243764
Your edge work is terrible which is why her ass looks bad. Needs to be more soft edges there. You know where I'm talking about too.

[Anonymous No.3243768]

>>3243767
Any tips on how to improve?

[Anonymous No.3243769]

>>3243760
As someone who went to an atelier and had to spend time between specific studies (basically classes) working on a graphite still life for a whole year... Yeah it takes forever and is grueling work. I wanted to fucking kill myself so I could stop looking at that shit.

I will tell you it does wonders for your technical skills though.

If you'd like to learn how to make your stuff look convincing, download/buy Drawing Realistic Textures in Pencil by J.D. Hillberry. The one and only thing I take issue with is his use of chamois/paper/tissue to blend his work. I was not allowed to use these, and had to do everything with a pencil and a fucking kneaded eraser. And honestly I'm better off because of it.

Otherwise it's a solid read and if you're willing to put in the time it'll help you improve where you're lacking.

[Anonymous No.3243771]

>>3243768
Just pay attention to your edges, that's all there is to it. http://muddycolors.blogspot.com.br/2015/04/10-things-about-edges.html

[Anonymous No.3243772]

>>3243771
Thanks, anon!

[Anonymous No.3243774]

>>3243769
How good are you at imagination work after all of that?

[Anonymous No.3243777]

>>3243774
Clasically trained artists we're always good with imagination. Please don't try to stir this shit again.

[Anonymous No.3243778]

>>3243777
It was an honest question. I'm sorry for whoever hurt you before me.

[Anonymous No.3243780]

>>3243778
No I've just seen much similar incessant shit flinging happen around people equaling classical education based on life drawing with photocopying and claiming they (trained people) can't draw anything apart from what they directly see. I just could see where such questions go, sorry for misjudging you.

[Anonymous No.3243786]

>>3243777
>>3243780
Copying what you see whether from life or photo IS a different skill than drawing from imagination. Someone who has only trained in sight sizing will not be able to create an animation with simple characters. Just look at proko.

[Anonymous No.3243792]

>>3243786
Classical education doesn't teach just sight sizing, it actually discourages relying on just that. I've been told to sketch the picture first and make technical measures only after the fact in the short time when I could get a taste of formal education. Drawing boxes and such is only really relied upon in the beginning, skilled draftsmen are more or less constructing on the fly, Vrubel shows this ability in a nice emphasized fashion. Well of course, if some individuals pave their way relying only on sightsizing, all the power to them. Better stop here.

I don't like Proko, he looks sleazy.

[Anonymous No.3243793]

>>3243774
I'm okay enough at it. I can't visualize things in my head so it's hard for me to do the whole "have an image in your head and put it on paper" thing cause I don't get those images. I don't even dream. I didn't know people could close their eyes and "see" things, I thought it was some kind of saying or something.

I can execute things without directly copying refs or needing to photobash first, say I've got an idea or a prompt to do from imagination - I have to go through thumbnails for composition, do several variations of a monster/character/vehicle and experiment with the shapes until I find one I like, do color studies, etc. Once I go through all that stuff I'm fine, I do have to find references sometimes though, if it's not internalized I can't help it, I'm not going to guess at it and make it look like shit.

I have noticed that all my classmates were really good at just shitting out work from imagination, though. I'm really envious of anyone who can visualize, if I could it would make everything way easier. So, don't take that for granted, that shit is a fucking gift.

[Anonymous No.3243794]

>>3243786
No one but animators care about animation. Also bullshit because most animators of the golden age were out of work fine artists with a classical education.

[Anonymous No.3243795]

I know there's something wrong with it, but I don't know what... the sword is what I'd change is what I'd still had the file

[Anonymous No.3243797]

>>3243793
You don't even see any images flickering as you're drifting off to sleep? It's hard for me to imagine that, too. I can at times see things so clearly right before turning off it occurs to me I can extend my hand and touch them.

[Anonymous No.3243800]

>>3243786
Okay, Proko is a bad example, he's someone who got stuck in copying from life. Being a photocopier was discouraged where I was, and it was only used for getting through the fundamentals. It's hard to draw something from imagination when you can't use form, values, line, shape, or proportion right. So I'd have to argue with you there, it's not very different. Drawing from imagination is just taking what you've learned from your life studies and twisting it into what you want to see. Crocodile-men don't exist, but crocodiles and people sure as hell do, so it makes sense that you'd study those subjects and get comfortable with them before drawing the things that don't exist. At least, if you want them to be convincing.

>>3243792
Yes! Exactly. That's what my teacher always told me, "eh, just eyeball it and block it in, use the envelope method, then tighten it up afterwards" lol. I thought he was crazy at first but now I understand. It's just the whole "draw from general to specific" thing over and over again.

[Anonymous No.3243804]

>>3243797
No, I have never in my life seen anything that wasn't physically in front of me. I've always wondered what would happen if I took acid, though. People hallucinate on it, so I wonder if I would finally see things that aren't there, too, or if it would do something really strange instead. But the thought of that going wrong kind of freaks me out too much to do it lol.

[Anonymous No.3243808]

>Dodson wants me to draw a person for measuring practice
>Don't have friends
>Family won't stand for 40 minutes
Is it okay draw from a picture?

[Anonymous No.3243812]

>>3243793
>I didn't know people could close their eyes and "see" things

That's not how it works. It isn't magic. "Drawing from imagination" is kind of misleading, it makes as much sense as "speaking from imagination".
When you get an idea you use your knowledge of vocabulary and the rules of grammar to construct a sentence. Same thing when you draw, you can an idea and you use your knowledge of the subject and rules of perspective to construct the image. You can't draw something if you don't know what it looks like so you have to study the object and internalize it. You can't express an idea if you don't know the words for it so you need to read books or a dictionary to internalize the required vocabulary.

[Anonymous No.3243814]

>>3243808
Yes, just know that you're going to get a little lens distortion so try to look for images that are meant for artists, and not just random facebook photos.

Do they do life drawing sessions where you live? People will gather somewhere and pay $5 to get in and draw a model for a few hours, it might be worth looking into.

[Anonymous No.3243815]

>>3243768
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/brush-technique-blending

or use a soft airbrush

[Anonymous No.3243816]

>>3243812
I meant more like people talking about dreams or like during hypnosis or meditation when they say "visualize yourself on a beach..." kinda stuff.

Anyways I wouldn't know, that shit sounds like some fucking magic to me

[Anonymous No.3243818]

>>3243808
I recommend this https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo

six fucking puzzles, i miss old captcha

[Anonymous No.3243819]

>>3243816
Its not, you are just trying to make excuses for yourself.

[Anonymous No.3243823]

>>3243814
Thanks anon! This is purely for fixing my godawful measurements, so lens distortion is unimportant. I'm also too shit to draw publicly

>>3243818
Thanks. old captcha isn't dead 'til March

[Anonymous No.3243824]

>>3243819
There really is such a thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia

[Anonymous No.3243826]

>>3243812
We literally have a visuospatial sketchpad in working memory and other processes that feed directly into our visual system.

>>3243816
Most of us can see and feel the beach. With some work you can see and rotate objects in space. With an especially vivid imagination, it's like playing around on google earth. That's before you get into dreams and hypnosis and shit where shit gets wild.

[Anonymous No.3243827]

>>3243819
I think you are confused about what I was saying. Whatever man, it ain't worth arguing with you. I'm outta here.

Nice talking with you guys while it lasted.

[Anonymous No.3243828]

>>3243823
How to turn on the old captcha?

[Anonymous No.3243832]

>>3243827
Goodbye.
I really need to hit the hay too.

[Anonymous No.3243834]

Is it me or the beg thread is healthier than before?

[Anonymous No.3243835]

>>3243824
Oh shit is that what it's called?

>>3243826
Fucking superpowers man.

[Anonymous No.3243841]

>>3243828

[Anonymous No.3243842]

>>3243835
When people say artists artists are visual, they aren't fucking joking. ADD is just going somewhere within that's far more interesting. It's some dr strange shit.

[Anonymous No.3243843]

>>3243841
Thank you!
>>3243835
I suppose, I remember reading about inability to imagine. It's fairly common.

[Anonymous No.3243847]

>>3243834
The whole board goes through phases, it depends on how much the anons here feel like taking out their frustrations on everyone else, looks like they're feeling bretty gud today.

[Anonymous No.3243851]

>>3243847
No one has asked for advice and critique on a problem that could easily be solved by looking, measuring, and doing it again until they get it right, or seeing how another artist does it and taking inspiration. Yet.

[Anonymous No.3243858]

>>3243851
I was assuming everyone who uploads studies here is because was looking for critics, advices, suggestions, curious stuff, help, any commentary.

[Anonymous No.3243860]

>>3243858
Same here. It is the artwork/critique board so it stands to reason that if you're posting your work here you're looking for feedback.

[Anonymous No.3243865]

>>3243786
>Copying what you see whether from life or photo IS a different skill than drawing from imagination.

Different but connected. If you don't draw from life you either doing shitty "stylization" or rely heavily on refs.

The point of copying is to learn from reality and apply it to imagination. Reality have restriction but imagination doesn't. That's where creativity comes in.

[Anonymous No.3243869]

>>3243824
gee wizz i must have this too.
man no wonder im bad at drawing. itsn ot even worth studying cause ill never have these super powers
tough luck :(

[Anonymous No.3243870]

>>3243869
I wouldn't say it isn't worth studying. You just have to work harder than everyone else. Look into the drawing process of concept artists, it helps a lot.

[Anonymous No.3243875]

>>3243869
You joke but some people actually use this as a legit reason to not try.

[Anonymous No.3243877]

>>3243875
im not joking. some people just have bad genetics :(
some people are fat because they have bad genetics and have no reason to diet or exercise. some people can draw because of genetics and shouldnt bother trying
just the way it is

[Anonymous No.3243887]

>>3243875
Aw. That's a bummer. I mean it makes me feel like I should just give up sometimes but I've wanted to be an artist my whole life, so, fuck it, this is my only skill so why not stick with it. And honestly because I have to study harder than all of you it's actually going to make me a much better artist anyways. :^)

[Anonymous No.3243895]

>>3243635
clean your monitor

[Anonymous No.3243896]

[Anonymous No.3243897]

>>3243896

[Anonymous No.3243899]

>>3243896
Get the curves of the back and a better feel for the right front leg and render.

[Anonymous No.3243905]

>>3243795
it looks very stiff. The sword definitely doesn't help.
It looks like it's awkwardly holding the sword at an angle, not really swinging it. It looks undynamic. Exaggerate it more.

[Anonymous No.3243930]

starting baby's first loomis

Is there any trick for easily getting down the width proportions? The basic height ones of the "mannikin frame" are pretty easy to remember but I keep fucking it up with the widths, even when I make a note to keep stuff X head widths wide.

[Anonymous No.3243935]

>>3243930
Practice.

[Anonymous No.3243936]

>>3243713
nice. You should move to the draw thread next time. This is not beginner work.

[Anonymous No.3243947]

>>3243734
Inaccurate, the breasts are unrealistically large. The one of the left is a lot more detailed.

[Anonymous No.3243949]

>>3243764
The gap between the lower legs is wrong and the angle of the right knee is wrong.

[Anonymous No.3243956]

How do you prove to someone you know and understand construction?

[Anonymous No.3243958]

>>3243956
Construct something and don't erase the construction lines. Put it in multiple perspectives or poses. That's it. Wondering why you have to prove this to someone thought lol

[Anonymous No.3243960]

tell what you think

[Anonymous No.3243963]

>>3243960
Less /beg/ material. More /alt/ material.

[Anonymous No.3243965]

>>3243729
This looks great to me. I'm sure he looks older because of the severity of all the angles. The chin is really strong, and there's a laugh line. But that's not a bad thing. My question is how is this /beg/ tier?

[Anonymous No.3243971]

Pls help. I refuse to give up on drawing. But I can’t help but feel endlessly mediocre and beginner. Like god damn Sisyphus pushing a rock up a hill.

There are only 2 works (total) that I feel like I can show to people. Everything else I hide. Functioning people who are not art autists always seem so underwhelmed by what I show them. I can hardly bear to see disappointment on their faces, so I reluct to share what I’m working on.
Anyone help me kms pls?

[Anonymous No.3243972]

>>3243971
What am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.3243975]

>>3243971
Better than 90% of /beg/, but pretty shit because why the fuck didn't you finish it or clean it up. No functional person would be able to tell at a glance what you were trying to do. They love it when you have it super well polished and realistic. Your's is the complete opposite. Great proportions though.

[Anonymous No.3243976]

>>3243963
alt ?

[Anonymous No.3243977]

>>3243971

>>3243972

My honest opinion is just proportion.
You are in the right path I think. Keep practicing anon.

[Anonymous No.3243981]

>>3243971
Just looks like your average sketch to me. Try throwing in tones and rendering stuff, man. Maybe you should try drawing with something else, like a brush pen or a pencil.

>>3243972
Needs more gesture. Push the pose, really try to feel it.

[Anonymous No.3243983]

Did you heard about people falling in love with fictional characters like waives and all that stuff?
Well I think I’m falling too.
The women from master pieces are just lovely.

[Anonymous No.3243986]

>>3243960
Pretty stylized, and in some ways, questionable anatomy. That ass is lumpy. Calves look high and sharp, and the pose looks uncomfortable. Would suggest you look at pics of people holding swords. The angle of her left arm looks awkward.
Beyond anatomy, you’ve got nice line quality, with a loose but confident sketchy feel. Not /beg/.
>>3243930
I wouldn’t concern yourself so much with the raw numbers. Maybe a rule of thumb here and there. Like how many heads tall the torso and legs are, for example. But mainly you should be building from a human anatomy perspective. Ultimately the goal is to construct a human in a pose (in perspective), not a mannequin. The mannequin is something to build off of, not dwell on.

[Anonymous No.3243987]

>>3243983

> with fictional characters like waives and all that stuff?

“Waifus”

[Anonymous No.3243988]

>>3243986
thanks for the info any idea about what i can do for the cons

[Anonymous No.3243998]

Thank you to anyone reading this and acknowledging me. Very much appreciate the help, even when I don’t give much to go off of. I’ll try to stick around more to help other peeps.

>>3243975
Both were quick demos from my studio class. Like 15 min per pose. Both on newsprint, compressed charcoal. My focus was on proportion, value, contour in the first. Sketchy feel. The laying pose was fucking around mostly, abstracting the angles of her body and contour. You’re right about the realism. People love photorealism.. and how time consuming it is.
>>3243977
Where does proportion look off? The first woman is a tall lanky woman. Laying pose wasn’t as accurate, for sure. Torso too big I think?
>>3243981
Solid. Thank you for the tips.
>>3243988
Which post was yours?

[Anonymous No.3244004]

>>3243998
>3243960

[Anonymous No.3244025]

Last thread turned to shit as soon as I asked for help.

[Anonymous No.3244062]

Can I use charcoal on printer paper?

[Anonymous No.3244077]

>>3244004

[Anonymous No.3244079]

>>3244077

[Anonymous No.3244080]

>>3244062
printer paper isn't really rough enough to hold onto charcoal that well.

[Anonymous No.3244084]

>>3243619
Far from finished, just looking for any pointers along the way ?

[Anonymous No.3244102]

I think I will do some bargue plates and try to actually draw bigger and control the values this time.

[Anonymous No.3244145]

Okay guys, this is fun and all, but I'm ready now. What's the secret technique to drawing well?

[Anonymous No.3244147]

>>3244145
The secret is you actually have to try and draw well.

[Anonymous No.3244152]

>>3244147
But really, Anon. Tell me the secret. No more memes.

[Anonymous No.3244168]

H-have I made it?

[Anonymous No.3244172]

>>3243619
Just what is drawing? The sticky doesn't answer this.

[Anonymous No.3244189]

>>3244172
You have to check another sticky.
The one i left on your mom's ass yesterday.

[Anonymous No.3244219]

So two questions

First one is that I do an upside down drawing every day to help get things but when I'm drawing it I notice my proportions run off or don't match up some time in the middle of it. How can I get them right?

And how would I go about drawing mechs like gundams.

[Anonymous No.3244225]

>>3244219
By erasing and looking at the thing you're drawing again.

Draw gundams. Alternatively, learn and understand mechanical objects and draw those too.

[Anonymous No.3244250]

does anyone have resources on how to attach heads to bodies? I'm really struggling to connect the anatomy, I can draw either in isolation fine but connecting the two it always looks wrong.

[Anonymous No.3244266]

>>3244080
Ah, that was what I was scared of. Thanks Anon.

[Anonymous No.3244267]

>>3244250
hampton on necks

[Anonymous No.3244317]

>>3244266
Charcoal and a light breeze is the Ctrl+z of trad media.

[Anonymous No.3244321]

>>3243972
>>3243971
When you go to render, all your mistakes become clear. At once.

[Anonymous No.3244345]

Recently I've been getting into warhammer, and am really interested in learning various aspects of painting, be it in a 2d or 3d application.

I was wondering if anybody could guide me in the direction of any books dealing with the chemistry and application of all paints.

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3244500]

Alright one more time.

[Anonymous No.3244508]

finally lined this. rendering next, still shite from imagination. rate pls

[Anonymous No.3244540]

>>3244508
that guy's arm bothers me. Also, why is he sad?

[Anonymous No.3244541]

>>3243764
Right hip needs to be lower

[Anonymous No.3244550]

>>3244540
because i havent learned facial expressions yet, he is supposed to be horrified.
arm is probably wrong

[Anonymous No.3244552]

>>3244152
You just wing it and everything will sort of look just as good as if you had planned it out

[Anonymous No.3244554]

>>3244540
Arm is 5 meters long.

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3244560]

Hi senpai, I didnt feel like posting alot of shitty sketches apart so I tried to put them In one pic

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3244562]

>>3244560
ttrying to get beter at making poses less stiff, anyone got any tips?

[Anonymous No.3244608]

Just sketching this out, any advice?

[Anonymous No.3244637]

how do you make the character pop out from the background

[Anonymous No.3244640]

I can use more wrapping lines but I want to be focus on the necessary lines. I found difficult to draw the gesture of dynamic poses from fighting movies.

[Anonymous No.3244644]

[Anonymous No.3244647]

>>3244644

[Anonymous No.3244655]

>>3244637
You need to study compositional value. Using 3 values to describe the portrait. Something that you need to do before the portrait. You didn’t, now you suffer the consequences.

[Anonymous No.3244677]

>>3243960
terrible taste

[Anonymous No.3244734]

>>3244168
Yes. You may now go to /alt/

[Anonymous No.3244736]

>>3244102


>>3244102
Don't see why you need to do bargue plates, you seem pretty capable in the drawing department. How about give oil painting a try, here's a book to help you along the way John Collier - A manual to oil painting.

The book will help indicate what supplies you need. Though it cost me about 100 dollars to get all the supplies I needed to get started with oil painting, although dirtier than digital painting it's more satisfying.

For further reading if you're interested,, take a look at Harold Speed the practice and science of drawing.

All the books are available online for free. Check the archive online

Hope this helps anon

[Anonymous No.3244738]

>>3244145
Although the cartoon has no technique, i kinda dig it

>>3244172
Anon check out G.E Hicks a guide to figure drawing online. He'll hell you understand it fully the first 25 pages are most important, and it's only 43 pages long.

[Anonymous No.3244741]

>>3244317
Zin Lim on YouTube provides a helpful tool for learning charcoal drawing more so according to me personally compared to the other Youtube artists

[Anonymous No.3244744]

>>3244741

Proceed to fuck off...

[Anonymous No.3244758]

>>3244644

[Anonymous No.3244787]

>>3244500
The knees are gone and the legs are small
overall not terrible

[Anonymous No.3244790]

>>3244608
learn lines. also the eye is to high

[Anonymous No.3244813]

>>3244644
Brutty cute. Maybe try to imagine the bones that form her body underneath the skin. Like a table with a cloth draped over it.

>>3244637
Blend

>>3244508
I like this, especially the story telling and angle. Curious to see it coloured. I think it would be awesome if you could process the wind into this image.

[Anonymous No.3244815]

beep

[Anonymous No.3244841]

>>3244562
It looks like you're drawing straight angles and lines for bones, then curving muscle and clothes around them after you put them down.

start curving bones more and they will be less stiff
look at the fairy's legs and you'll understand

[Anonymous No.3244849]

>>3244637
you make them contrast in value, either make the background darker or the character lighter

[Anonymous No.3244853]

>>3244849
Whoa, this is some cool effect.

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3244854]

>>3244841
I think I get what U mean.

I'll try my best, tnx anon :)

[Anonymous No.3244869]

Just started Perspective Made Easy, and apparently I'm fucking retarded because I don't understand what he's asking me to do here. this theoretical blackboard is in the corner? Like.. Flat against each wall or..?

[Anonymous No.3244900]

>>3244869
Draw a line thats eye height
Look at it while sitting down
Draw a line in a corner
Look at it while sitting down.
Look at it while standing.
Draw a line on something outside
Look at it in different ways

[Anonymous No.3244921]

>>3244758
How do I avoid symbol drawing when I'm drawing small?

[Anonymous No.3244929]

>>3244608
Waists can only bend side to side and curve forward and backwards

That characters spine is snapped in half, an extremely flexible person can only bend backwards not forwards.

Notice how in the pic she's curved forward and not completely bent like your drawing

[Anonymous No.3245005]

>>3244608
draw something else

[Anonymous No.3245008]

>>3244608
holy fucking shit. ur lines dude. try drawing only a single line or a series of straight lines and see if u can hit what u want. if u cant hit it with one line, then its back to drawing reference mate.

[Anonymous No.3245010]

>>3244077
cg's shading is okay, if you like his style, but dont use his anatomy. its pretty shit. i mean look at that fucking chicken leg. wtf

[Anonymous No.3245015]

Did a study of my friend. Already I can see I drew his eyes too big.

[Anonymous No.3245024]

>>3245015
Does he actually have strabismus?

[Anonymous No.3245043]

>>3245024
No. The eyes were difficult, it challenged me.

[Anonymous No.3245088]

I keep drawing but I never feel like i'm getting any better

[Anonymous No.3245094]

>>3245088
1. Are you just drawing for the sake of drawing, or are you actively trying to learn and improve? Drawing a lot is a huge part of it, but you should be drawing with purpose.

2. It takes a long time. Most art progress is measured in months and years. Things will go faster if you put in more time each day, but time is required.

[Anonymous No.3245097]

think i went a lil crazy on the block in

[Anonymous No.3245141]

Color should be the last thing I should be worry about.
But I made this wip for fun.
Are the color working?
If you are wondering why I made a generic cute elf, well. I am a healthy man

[Anonymous No.3245159]

Wanted to paint something but feeling super uninspired. So, here's a generic dwarf/gnome/vertically challenged person smoking in the woods.
Critiques plz.

[Anonymous No.3245181]

>>3245159
I like the mood, it's pretty good. I could give some pointers in case you want to push the image a bit further. One main thing is focusing, you can choose where you want the viewer to put his attention in, so in this case, it could be around the face and the smoking pipe, so you drag people eye's in the action or point of interest. it's also a good idea to render considering the depth and background, it can create a better sense of space and makes the image less flat, you do this by pushing values in the front and resting on the back with softer values. However, there's more to it, creating more planes can help the viewer to get that feel, the space in front of the dwarf seems a tad empty, you could add something there to add planes and point the image towards the center, there's plenty of ways to do it.

as for the brush strokes, I'd say is up to you how much you want to exaggerate them, just make sure you are not using it as an excuse to shortcut your way in to an end result quickly, polishing a bit more can reveal more interesting features in the image, however if you didn't plan it beforehand it'll make things look worse as you may not completely know the textures of the subject, ie: how to render each material of the dwarf's clothes, like boots, cape, etc.

All in all, I'd say you are alright, just extend your work a step further in the rendering and composition, it'll put a challengue on you and could help in making more interesting images.

[Anonymous No.3245187]

>>3245159
not /beg/

[Anonymous No.3245208]

>>3245181
Thanks for the tips. Lol I actually already tried to push the values to gave it better focus. I'm used to drawing a subject floating in a white void, so doing a thing with an actual background really gave me a hard time.
You're right I'm being impatient with the brush work. After drawing with default brushes for so long, I just wanted to emulate a painterly style from pro artists (using their brushes of course).
>>3245187
Lol Thanks for the confidence boost. It's honestly the best i can do with my skills right now.

[Anonymous No.3245247]

my 30 second gestures please critique

[Anonymous No.3245258]

>>3243619
Unfinished ref study. I hope I can get better at this by next year.

[Anonymous No.3245263]

[Anonymous No.3245273]

>>3243795
you're very creative, i look forward to seeing you improve fellow anon.

i wish i wasnt so lazy and would just draw. its hard finding motivation right now for me

[Anonymous No.3245274]

>>3245273
Wish granted. What kind of art do you like?

[Anonymous No.3245282]

>>3245141
it looks cute anon, but please finish it to the best of your ability before asking for advice.

[Anonymous No.3245298]

>>3245258
Take a closer look at your neck.

[Anonymous No.3245307]

>>3245282
I will anon.
Hope I will have enough time.

[Anonymous No.3245313]

>>3243619
>post in /beg/
>get told I have no idea what I'm doing or ignored
>post in /alt/
>get compliments and featured in OP
What does this mean?

[Anonymous No.3245314]

>>3245313
Means you post your art

[Anonymous No.3245323]

>>3245313
You know that phrase "if you're the best in the class, then you're in the wrong class?" Well, that.

[Anonymous No.3245329]

please critique my shitty studies

[Anonymous No.3245364]

>>3245313
the average /beg/gar is better than the average /alt/er

[Anonymous No.3245365]

>>3245364
>tfw you're below the average

I just wanted to make video games

[Anonymous No.3245368]

>>3245329
I want to study that ass. inb4 (((male)))

[Anonymous No.3245400]

>>3245368
its whatever you want it to bee :^)

[Anonymous No.3245428]

Some told me to watch some Zin Lim video, so I've been trying to go through it a few times to get a better feel for values and the structure of the face.

[Anonymous No.3245430]

>>3245428
I tried it again while stuck waiting without the videos. It didn't work so well. Having a reference would have been nice.

[Anonymous No.3245433]

hopw the fuck does colour dodge work? I saw someone make a really nice lighting effect with it but i cant work out how to do it for the h*ck of me

[Anonymous No.3245435]

>>3245430
Worked on another Zin Lim video on constructing faces. Working to get proportions right.

[Anonymous No.3245441]

>>3245435
And here's a plane. I feel like I've gotten fairly got at copying the contours of other drawings or references, but I'm still struggling to get values right and creating things from imagination. I guess I should just spend more time practicing getting values down?

[Anonymous No.3245461]

>>3245428

the face looks like you have an understanding of depicting form on paper ...

>>3245430
... but this one kind of downgrades into symbol drawing. human skulls don't look like that.

what might help you is try comparing the two and see what you did differently.

the basic shapes you drew doesn't look like you understand it clearly either. but this can be solved with more drawing.

you can draw from life some more. just keep at it and it will click in your mind one day (doesn't take long, just a lot of practice)

i had to look closer at why your sketches seem to have energy, and it's because your lines aren't chicken scratchy. that's a very big plus. always keep your lines confident and try to nail it in one go.

i commented because these have a very raw quality to them that I like. i hope you pursue drawing.

[Anonymous No.3245462]

2 and 5 minute figure. Can I get some critique please?

[Anonymous No.3245481]

I just finished the first chapter of keys to drawing. from lurking around here a bit, I heard its best to redo exercises to really learn them. Would it be best to get through the book doing each exercise 2 or 3 times? When I get to the end, should I just go through it a couple more times to really absorb the information or just continue onto the next book?

[Anonymous No.3245487]

colour is HARD

[Anonymous No.3245488]

>>3245481
It's been a long time since I read it, but wasn't the whole takeaway that you should measure? Compare picture to reference, fix what's wrong. That's all I got out of it.

[Anonymous No.3245497]

>>3245488
Would you say its worth going through until the end? I find the exercises a lot more enjoyable than how to draw on the right side of the brain.

that question kind of answers itself, but I want to hear your opinion

[Anonymous No.3245508]

>>3245497
It's worth finishing, builds confidence, makes for good habits. But it's the high school version of theory and technique you'll be revisiting later, constantly and in more depth and detail. It's like a 101 class, it gives a brief overview and shows you what to expect in more detail in the 200 level classes.

[Anonymous No.3245519]

>>3245508
That sounds good to me. I would rather be a little familiar and know what I have to grind out rather than just be lost when I have to learn new concepts. Thanks brudda

[Anonymous No.3245525]

>>3245519
I forgot the biggest thing, which is that it turns incompetent scribblers into people who can actually improve. Very quickly. You come out of it thinking like an artist, which is hard as shit to teach.

[Anonymous No.3245550]

Some construction

[Anonymous No.3245554]

>>3245550
Huge heads.

[Anonymous No.3245569]

I made some 2 minute gesture that I would love to have critiqued. I think they're starting to feel dynamic now but I would like a second opinion on it.

[Anonymous No.3245573]

>>3245569
There's something off about the heads.

[Anonymous No.3245625]

hello friends 1 week ago i got some tips on what is and is not "gesture" vs "figure drawing"

and it helped me out a shit ton.

day 1 vs day 7

[Anonymous No.3245626]

>>3245625
vs day 7;

i know im still far from....ehhh efficient but this shit does help;

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3245788]

Hello senpai, I saw this on another forum, can someone please help clarify it? it had this text next to it:
>Basically: decide one or two directions of the flow, then use minor opposite forces to convey those main ones, avoiding symmetry. Read Mattesi's books.

Is this only for moving poses or is it just a general rule for dynamic poses?

[Anonymous No.3245891]

Wip day 2
No much progress.
my weakness is drapery. I had not study fundamentals since yesterday.
It's time to use references, tomorrow

I will make some copies of Michelangelo drawings using block in.

[Anonymous No.3245897]

>>3245788
That's just gesture

[Anonymous No.3245907]

>>3245788

Keep in mind that it's literally just marketing, the guy had to come up with some fancy new buzzword ("force") to sell books on gesture. If his explanations work for you, cool, if they don't feel free to discard them. Personally I find his explanations to be extremely contrived and unecessary. Just get good at simplifying forms desu

[Anonymous No.3245953]

>>3245891
Oh no no.
I cam back to see the painting and the head is too big lol.

[Anonymous No.3245959]

how 2 drw lik dis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcXnouOND14

[Anonymous No.3246005]

anatomy studies are starting to yield results.

[Anonymous No.3246006]

HOW DO I GET USED TO DRAWING WITH A TABLET?

[Anonymous No.3246007]

Does anyone know how to adjust the entire values and/or saturation of a layer or selection in Paint Tool Sai? I tried to do it, but it's not having any effect for some reason. I'm guessing I just don't know the right process.

[Anonymous No.3246018]

>>3246006
Just use it until you get comfortable. That's all there is to it.

[Anonymous No.3246037]

It took me like 30 minutes to figure out how to draw this squatting pose, and even then, it's not hunched over like how wanted it to be, and the feel look awful.
And suggestions?

[Anonymous No.3246038]

>>3246006
you're gonna make it anon

[Anonymous No.3246048]

>>3246037
Toes are arched less in a real squat pose. You're pressing the feet like it's a cat or a ballerina--try this in real life. The more you try to arch your feet, the less support you will have, and the more painful it will be to secure the pose. Also, the legs are bowed out a bit much--bring them in a bit. Do these two things, and your model will look more like a Slav and less like a yogi.

[Anonymous No.3246050]

I tried not to symbol draw on this one. i think the camera made his forehead bigger because it doesn't look that big in my drawing.

[Anonymous No.3246052]

>>3246050

[Anonymous No.3246104]

Any crit is welcome good or bad, I know it has a lot of flaws but if you guys wouldn't mind sharing your thoughts I find it really helpful ! I can post progress from a week ago when I last posted and maybe you guys could tell me if I have improved or maybe if I'm going in the right direction??

>>3246006
100% make sure the tablet is parallel with your screen, I made this mistake for everrrrr.

>>3245891
Where did you learn to colour like that it's very cool!

>>3245625
>>3245626
Do you think this is a good way to improve? I'm still stuggling a lot with gestures and poses.

[Anonymous No.3246105]

>>3246104
Ref I used for the outfit

[Anonymous No.3246112]

>>3246005

[Anonymous No.3246136]

>>3246052
you somehow turned him into a very convincing korean, which is actually impressive but probably not what you were striving for

[Anonymous No.3246190]

>>3246104
according to several artists, as well as ahem..."loomis" says the same thing.

[Anonymous No.3246205]

I'm trying to transition from a line-only autist to being more well rounded. I know I'm having issues with dark - light transitions in round shapes and eyeballing value ranges. I'm sure it'll get better with more studies and practice, but what else specifically should I work on?

[Anonymous No.3246216]

>>3245461
Thanks for your input. I'll try drawing from life some more and keep my lines confident. Your faint praise means a lot.

[Anonymous No.3246221]

>>3245953
To be fair, it looks like an elf or something, so maybe it's fine? Wrong thread though.

[Anonymous No.3246348]

Anyone have tips for drawing the neck and shoulder area of the upper torso? I've always struggled drawing head/chinshapes I like and now I struggle with the connection of the neck to the head and the width/perspective of the upper torso and shoulders. Appreciate any tips

[Anonymous No.3246352]

just started today with those silly loomis faces

[Anonymous No.3246371]

>>3246050
anon just shade your drawing, all your stuff feels like 100% symbol drawing.

[Anonymous No.3246382]

Tried to do some cylinders

[Anonymous No.3246424]

>>3246382
try to make more complex cylinders.

[Anonymous No.3246426]

>>3246382
look at ur top right cylinder, now look at one of you cylinder strings, you see the problem?

[Anonymous No.3246429]

>>3245430
>You are not following the instructions correctly (you are skipping steps), nor watching the full video.
>This can be seen with your aid, in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W80Lz0PNSI&t=627s
you can see that with the darkest value he presses he's vine charcoal stick lightly, and goes over the value multiple times. In your aid you only went over once. I suggest following what he does to the T.
This goes the same for every other thing you've attempted, it seems that you've rushed through the drawing and couldn't be bothered with watching the video for a solid 15 minutes.

>with regards to a reference, either take a screenshot of the end result of the video using the app snip on your computer and print it, or open another tab with the video in its final stage.

good luck zinlimming
hope this helps

[Anonymous No.3246431]

>>3245441
focus first on being able to accurately portray objects as they really are.
In order to draw from the imagination one has to first learn to potray objects as they really are, then proceed to construction and then finally they can draw from imagination. Please do not rush this process, it takes time but you'll get there by following the necessary instructions

[Anonymous No.3246437]

>>3245159
How did you learn to paint ;_;

[Anonymous No.3246440]

>>3246429
George Collier _ A manual of oil painting

[Anonymous No.3246441]

>>3246437
https://youtu.be/2BlpqCxxcEE

[Anonymous No.3246442]

>>3246440

[Anonymous No.3246447]

Probably need to work more on gestures.
I know the under bite and head position if a bit off. Probably gonna go back to it soon

[Anonymous No.3246453]

>>3246050
i disagree with the symbol drawing comment, though I do agree that you should colour in the face, though your outline seems correct.
https://www.craftsy.com/blog/2014/11/painting-with-colored-pencils/

in addition to that
i suggest print out the image, and place it side by side next to your drawing.

With Colouring first SQUINT YOUR EYES
so you begin to see pacthes of colour,
then begin to colour in the darkest areas of those patches WITH A SINGLE COLOUR THAT MATCHES IT,
(remember to do it lightly)
After colouring the dark areas with a single colour with your squint vision
Following this then colour in the lighest patches of colour that you see with your squint vision.
following this now begin to add the midtones
hope this helps dont be afraid to ask any more qs

[Anonymous No.3246456]

>>3246447
not bad but reference?

[Anonymous No.3246487]

>>3246221
Thank you anon. I know this belongs to alternative art stylization, but I uploaded here because I’m beg specially with drapery.
Hope I’m not annoying anyone.
It’s a work in process, I will do better.

>>3246104
If you want to know, I tried to do some stuff like krenz does. Cools on lights, warms on core shadows but I over saturated two colors cyan and orange. The cyan is on lights and orange on shadows. This teso colors fifth each other so I use colors related from them like in traditional media.

It’s a work in progress, I will improve it.

[Anonymous No.3246493]

>>3245891
The neck is wrong
The eyelash is confusing.
Body maybe too small.
Needs mor hard edges on the eye.
Needs Better clothing design.

[Anonymous No.3246499]

Dynamic gesture?
Fighting gesture?
Hope I did right.
I made this 3 days a go. I have more but with pen. I will upload them later.

[Anonymous No.3246547]

>>3245462
try to avoid symbols and think of the forms more.
i see you starting to recognize this when it comes to the torso, or the ribs-- I see you trying to organize the major forms down into the gesture.

you can speed up the process by studying a little bit of anatomy, like taking bridgeman's simplified forms and slowly incorporating his teachings into your works piece by piece. as an example.

again, all of this can be cured by drawing more. you're showing signs in this drawing that you're starting to get it, which is a good thing.

[Anonymous No.3246549]

>>3246050
It's probably the angle you took the picture from that's distorting the proportions. learning how to take proper pictures of your drawings is also important.

but anyways, you should study the proportions of the dude's face in the photo some more. where are your measurements?

[Anonymous No.3246558]

>tfw havent tried coloring in a long time
>tfw going to try now
I'm very spooked anons

I don't want to spend hours in a drawing so it turns out shit

[Anonymous No.3246593]

[Anonymous No.3246597]

>>3246558
>I don't want to spend hours in a drawing so it turns out shit

i know that feel to anon. but sometimes you do have to do it. and if it doesn't turn out like shit then you have something to feel good about. if it fails you have something to know where you fucked up and dont do it next time.

[Anonymous No.3246622]

>>3246558
You're never going to make beautiful drawings at the beginning. What's important is the knowledge you absorb.

[Anonymous No.3246631]

Is that normal that the nibs of my Wacom tablet wear out super fast? I'm trying to not press too hard but this shit deteriorate super quickly and i'll be forced to buy new ones, I feel like i'm getting jewed.

[Anonymous No.3246632]

>>3246631
nigger your own nibs to jew the nip nib jew

[Anonymous No.3246637]

What should a total scrub who has all hours of the day available to work on art start off with?

I'm 24 now and I would really like to attend a school like Parsons for fashion design, but I know it’s probably impossible for me to go from 0 - good ass portfolio for entry into a top design school within a year or two.

I started reading The Practice and Science of Drawing by Harold Speed, and it’s beginning to feel more philosophical than technical.
I’m just afraid that I’ll pick the wrong book starting out, and that I’ll be stuck in a place where all of my work looks stagnant and lifeless. Or the techniques that I’ve adopted would automatically be seen in a potential portfolio judger’s eyes as “just another guy who’s drawing the same Loomis figures as everyone else,” or some shit like that.

Should I just shut the fuck up and do the Keys to Drawing or Right Side of Brain book? I wasn't really digging Bert Dodson's line work at the beginning, but I'm willing to stick with it if it'll teach me good fundamentals.

I really just want to work towards creating nice ass drawings of figures, clothing, and city landscapes where I could combine shit from my imagination with reference drawings.

[Anonymous No.3246642]

>>3246558
I dread this moment.

[Anonymous No.3246645]

>>3246642
Look at rendering as the critique you never knew you wanted. It shows every flaw in your construction, every process line hiding that you drew a shitty line.

[Anonymous No.3246650]

>>3246631
iirc some models have a textured drawing area that fucks nibs up

[Anonymous No.3246663]

>>3246631
more me they've given me way more than i've ever needed, maybe they did crappier nibs with newer models though idk. but they give you tons so i think perhaps other people push much harder than i, so perhaps you're just a hard pusher, if you are perhaps you shouldn't be, might fuck up your wrist and you won't be any good with a brush or a nib pen when you go fundamental

[Anonymous No.3246670]

kek i didnt realize i drew all the eyes almost exactly the same until i finished. having a hard time with the lips on the bottom one. other than that how did i do?

[Anonymous No.3246675]

I've been practicing legs and basic rendering all week, but they always look bad to me.

>That anxiety that sets in when you try to put the pencil to the paper

How does one overcome these feelings of dread?

[Anonymous No.3246697]

>>3246675
Master studies

[Anonymous No.3246737]

>>3246547
Thank you for le critique, anon. I know quite a bit more anatomy than I incorporated into the drawings (they are just meant to be simple gestures), but it is something that I should study up on more and I have yet to read Bridgeman, which I will start studying asap.

[Anonymous No.3246740]

>>3246558
You'll usually find out about a mistake sooner than after several hours, you shouldn't be afraid to make mistakes either way. How else do you plan to improve.

[Anonymous No.3246752]

>>3243764
beside what the other anons said, i feel like you're proud of your work and indeed you should be proud, some minor errors there but don't be discouraged keep up the good work anon.

goodluck sir

[Anonymous No.3246855]

how do i make this vegetable look bumpy?

[Anonymous No.3246858]

>>3246855
ref

[Anonymous No.3246892]

sketch i made for my girlfriend, any critique for finishing it off?

[Anonymous No.3246902]

>>3246855
>> study materials

wip

[Anonymous No.3246903]

Gonna dump a handful of stuff I've drawn. I've never really gotten any feedback on it, so feel free to give constructive criticism on anything that sticks out.

[Anonymous No.3246904]

>>3246903

[Anonymous No.3246906]

>>3246447
he needs a neck too

[Anonymous No.3246908]

>>3246903
>>3246904

[Anonymous No.3246911]

>>3246904
Oh shit, sorry about the resolution. I'm a newfag.

[Anonymous No.3246916]

>>3245569
I think you're doing very well as far as the dynamics and fluidity are concerned.
So much so that I think your focus should shift from fluidity to tightening your gesture/figure.
By which I mean preventing your proportions and body-parts from running away from you.

Keep doing short Gestures and start doing longer ones from 5 to 10 to 15 to 30 minutes.
The goal being, to control the stretching and squeezing impact of the spaghetti-like short gesture, while maintaining that fluidity.

>>3246499
I think you're getting the hang of it, start doing a couple of longer ones. I think 5 min and below is where you will get most progress for now.
Apart from that keep the "opposite C's" technique in mind and slowly start introducing some form into your slightly longer gestures.
you're aiming for something similar to this anon >>3245569 for now.

[Anonymous No.3246950]

whats the best book/chapter/guide for material study?

[Anonymous No.3246954]

Any thoughts on this lads?

[Anonymous No.3246970]

>>3246954
Looks off. Form in face is good though, while neck and body has little to non.

[Anonymous No.3246974]

>>3246348

study the skeleton and muscle group and see how it connects.

[Anonymous No.3246976]

>>3246558

I tried to render in color yesterday. Literally felt like throwing up from my own work. I just shift+delete that shit.

[Anonymous No.3246996]

cropped it

[Anonymous No.3247001]

>>3246954
I like it. Refer to that for future reference as you improve.

[Anonymous No.3247013]

First attempt at sketches this month.

[Anonymous No.3247019]

>>3244102
Why are you in /beg/?

Fucking cunt

[Anonymous No.3247074]

>>3246637
Reading Harold Speed without knowing any fundamentals is like someone jumping into the cockpit of a plane with zero flying experience.

Just read one of the two books you mentioned and get the fucking fundamentals down.

[Anonymous No.3247147]

I want to be able to draw realistic characters for comics/in general. I have looked into loomis, ive been watching proko videos.

Everything is just so overwhelming and I don't know what to do. I feel like it's impossible for me to be able to remember how every single muscle reacts to eachother in different positions, etc. On top of that, Proko has you drawing the muscles like there is no skin over it. Which I get to an extent, but still,

I'm not looking to draw fully shaded masterpieces I just want to get to a point where I can draw/sketch characters for comics and concept art in general. I just don't don't know how I am supposed to retain all of this information.

I just don't know how I am supposed to tackle it all.

[Anonymous No.3247159]

>>3246382
the back half of this isn't a cylinder, draw your ellipses all the way through so that you don't pinch your lines. That's more of an "eye" shape than an ellipse in cross section.

[Anonymous No.3247183]

>>3246632
Did this almost 6 years ago; the first cut still hasn't worn down. It's a million years worth supply.

[Anonymous No.3247230]

>>3246916
thank you for the advice. I will keep that in mind.

[Anonymous No.3247248]

>>3246855

paint it

[Anonymous No.3247284]

>>3246352
Try making the cheek droops nice and round. They may not look better, but it might force you to curve them with the face. Make sure the eyes are equidistant from the center line. More heads from weird angles. Don't worry about the body unless you're just trying to have fun with it.

[Anonymous No.3247456]

i'm not sure if this is the right thread to post this, but how am i doing? i recently got a graphics tablet (Huion/Turcom H610)

[Anonymous No.3247480]

>>3243620
>>http://drawabox.com
>Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.
>>3243620

Just found drawabox, it seems useful but I'm totally new to this. Why is it considered controversial?

[Anonymous No.3247481]

>>3247480
they kill babies

[Anonymous No.3247484]

Anyone have issues with getting tense in they're shoulder blade? I keep having to stop because I get tense for some reason. Any way to prevent this from happening?

[Anonymous No.3247505]

Boobs are no like this. I know. lol
Wip day 3
30 min

[Anonymous No.3247506]

>>3247480
> Why is it considered controversial?
it isn't really. i thought it was useful to help improve lines and stuff. drawabox=isis is a meme.

[Anonymous No.3247508]

Just bought my first tablet. Rate pls.

[Anonymous No.3247510]

>>3247456
Better than me lmao
>>3247508

[Anonymous No.3247512]

>>3246670
walp bls critic.

[Anonymous No.3247513]

>>3246892
Your gf has downs?

[Anonymous No.3247518]

>>3246670
Left's cranium is to small
Right's jaw is shifted forward
Bottom, youre trying to draw the mouth as if she were looking right at us, but she's looking to the right.

[Anonymous No.3247519]

>>3247512
Pure symbols drawing. When drawing try to think you are drawing a surface made by planes, shapes, forms. Don’t just make a line.
Pic related

[Anonymous No.3247523]

>>3246670
>>3247512

>>3244758

[Anonymous No.3247585]

>>3247013
finnish em. Then we'll talk

[Anonymous No.3247605]

I want to make digital paintings, even just anime/cartoony-type ones or whatever. I'm having a lot of trouble following the art beginner books like loomis, so I decided to just try what I wanted to do in the mean time...

I know there's a lot wrong with these examples and I don't think I'll finish them. I know I need to work on basic anatomy and stuff. But what I'm feeling the most blockage with right now is how to make features "pop", or more defined. I feel like I can blend a bunch of colors/lights and shadows together forever, but actually creating defining details after makes no sense to me once I've painted over the rough sketch.

I've tried looking at art tutorials of artists whose styles I enjoy, but it feels like there's a big gap when it comes to refining details. I tried adding some solid lines, but I feel like that looks too rough/ugly. Any advice/tips on how I can work on that?

[Anonymous No.3247622]

>>3247620
>>3247620
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>>3247620
>>3247620
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>>3247620
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[Anonymous No.3247638]

>>3243619
Is this how you hold a pen for drawing? Is the angle correct or should it be lower and rest in the curve between the thumb and index finger?

[Anonymous No.3247937]

>>3247284
that's actually really helpful, thanks

[Anonymous No.3248006]

>>3246447
All from head.
Trolls from warcraft are my favorite so I have their image engraved in my noggin

[Anonymous No.3248676]

>>3243793

>I can't visualize things in my head
>I didn't know people could close their eyes and "see" things.

You may want to look into "aphantasia", because I think you'd resonate with others' experiences. It's always nice to have a word for things.

[Anonymous No.3249506]

>>3246996
I like the forms in the face and the rendering of the teeth but the body pose implie very little and is uninspired - I'd make it more extreme.