/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.3232925]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>3229780

[Anonymous No.3232928]

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>http://youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
Instructional how-to videos covering mostly portrait and figure drawing from fine artist Stan Prokopenko.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

[Anonymous No.3232958]

What digital pens do you use? I have the default for the Surface Pro 2 and it feels pretty garbage

[Anonymous No.3232961]

>>3232958

I use Wacom pro pen, it feels good to handle its its very comfortable.

[Anonymous No.3232967]

I apologize for the bad line quality, I’m drawing in a uncomfortable place. I can no move my arm well here.

Loomis. It looks like figure out the axis can help a lot.
If you see something weird tell me.

[Anonymous No.3232970]

>>3232928
>Drawabox.com
>Controversial
Why is that?

[Anonymous No.3232972]

Still shilling that proko meme

[Anonymous No.3232973]

>>3232970
Because some people find drawing boxes helps them while others just draw.

[Anonymous No.3233002]

>>3232925
Is it a good idea to do the bargue drawing course as a beginner?

[Anonymous No.3233003]

>>3233002
Everything about art is good anon. Learn everything you can.

[Anonymous No.3233004]

I tried using markers for the first time. I drew Skrillez as a homosexual. What do you think?

[Anonymous No.3233006]

I hope the construction is not off. Sometimes I just miss the simple errors.

[Anonymous No.3233009]

As a beg, I know I should not worry about narrative right now but anon, I want to tell stories with my drawings with a good taste of art. How do learn this? Experience?

What I know now is that composition is a important part about the narrative.

[Anonymous No.3233027]

man sometimes i just cannot see basic shapes

[Anonymous No.3233031]

Sorry for spamming these again, posted before late on an about to expire thread. Appreciate thoughts. Head construction.

[Anonymous No.3233033]

This is Jules. This is the first thing I drew over a couple years ago that really stuck with me.

I’d appreciate any constructive critiques.

[Anonymous No.3233034]

Female torsos.

[Anonymous No.3233035]

Male.

[Anonymous No.3233037]

>>3233004
its nice but very simple. go bigger and get more in there

[Anonymous No.3233040]

>>3233027
Definitely have the right idea with the shading and lighting render. I do not know why you are chosing to work with lines that are so thick? Also clean up your line work. Youre doing that thing that people often do when they draw an elipse, where they keeping going over the sloppy ones over and over until the elipse eventually evens out. Dont work like that because the correct lines are just lost under all the other attempts. Think about your lines and ghost if necessary.

[Anonymous No.3233044]

>>3232972
Can you fuck off you fucking germ?

[Anonymous No.3233045]

I asked a question in the Q&A thread like 6 hours ago and the thread is completely dead so I'll post it here.

>>3232727

t.a beginner

[Anonymous No.3233063]

>>3233033
Very good, technical sound.

[Anonymous No.3233066]

>>3233045
From what the anon said last thread it was fine, and better than tracing, but to turn it upside down when you try to recreate it

[Anonymous No.3233068]

>>3233066
I did that upside down.

[Anonymous No.3233075]

is proko on cgpeers?

[Anonymous No.3233080]

>>3233045
studying someone else's work can give you insight on how they went about solving problem or what they use to represent things. you probably wont get much out of it unless you can comfortably draw what you see

>>3233075
just checked and it looks like there are a bunch of pose videos, but none of his 'lessons' are

[Anonymous No.3233082]

I had practiced basic (but not all) fundamentals over this summer, recently thought I'd redo an old piece. How am I doing?

[Anonymous No.3233106]

As a beginner should I avoid reading the books from the "Beginners Essential Books" section until I've drawn a bunch? What I mean is that I haven't drawn during my daily life for fun at all until picking up a book. I just feel like I'm missing some sort of familiarity that these books sound like they expect from me.

[Anonymous No.3233112]

Hey can someone show me what books to read/study so I can master how to do poses like pic-related? I see a lot of people who draw these doll-like bodies with no faces, and they have a X to help you figure out where the eyes and mouth go. I even read books that use them as an example. but what I need to do is figure out the proportions.

How wide should the head be in comparison to its height? How does the doll-like body work? (Is it that 8 head shit?) I'm trying to figure out what resources people are using to figure out these dimensions, if there's a good book that tells you about the eye placement and so on.

My goal is just being to able to draw these blank dolls in a hundred different poses.

[Anonymous No.3233117]

Finished keys to drawing. What's a good book to start next? And yes, I did all the projects and practiced all the lessons, and I continue to, I didn't just skim through it.

[Anonymous No.3233124]

>>3233112
Don't need a book, that is literally just basic "construction". Check out proko's bean/robo bean videos, among others. Yeah it starts out looking shitty but your pic related probably drew 1000 dolls or more before he could do them that well.

[Anonymous No.3233132]

>works a full time job
>has little time during the day to draw
>wants to learn really badly
fuck being a wage slave

[Anonymous No.3233133]

>>3233124
I keep hearing this "draw 1000 x" phrase thrown around
How long would it even take to do that?

[Anonymous No.3233134]

>>3233132
I quit my warehouse job and got a desk job so I could draw all day and learn doing it at work. Look for anything like a night auditor or potentially a calls center

[Anonymous No.3233137]

>>3233134
Yeah I work in heavy equipment rentals so I'm out in the yard being busy 90% of the day with 15-20 minute periods where I can sneak time in the break room.

[Anonymous No.3233138]

>>3233133
Depends on how often you do said thing? Nobody expects you to do only that thing until you've done it 1000 times. Some people draw 1 hour a day, some people draw 8 hours a day. And 1000 doesn't guarantee the result, it's just an expression that means if you practice something, you will undoubtedly get good at it.

[Anonymous No.3233139]

>>3233134
ive only had one wage cuck job and there if you had nothing to do you were expected to pretend to work. serious studying takes a couple hours though, you cant just doodle for 10 minutes at a time at your job and expect to get good.

[Anonymous No.3233143]

pen anon back again
keep trying loomis head thing

[Anonymous No.3233145]

>>3233139
your post makes me feel even more discouraged. if the store isn't busy I have to do small jobs like spraying the asphalt yard clean so I'm not wasting company time. at least I'm only 21 and have the next 10 years of youth to learn

pick related is me driving to work

[Anonymous No.3233147]

>>3233143
>microcephaly

[Anonymous No.3233148]

What's the best way to watch long art lectures?

I'm watching this right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg and I tried to draw along with what he was doing, but I just end up getting distracted and needing to rewind dozens of times because I missed what he was saying while I was trying to fix a fucked up looking line.

Do you just sit down, watch all three hours, and try to retain what he said or are you supposed to draw along?

[Anonymous No.3233151]

>>3233147
Are the heads really that disfigured?

[Anonymous No.3233152]

>>3233139
Its a literal 8 hour shift of which 6 you are left to your own devices and are tasked with assisting any chucklefuck that shows up in the dead of night. Compared to the one I had before I think i'll manage

[Anonymous No.3233157]

>>3233151
mostly just the profiles, especially bottom right. Needs a lot more skull. Try more of a sideways oval shape instead of a circle

[Anonymous No.3233160]

Heres an older, even shittier head

[Anonymous No.3233163]

Older, shittier head resized because I'm retarded

[Anonymous No.3233174]

>>3233163
your facial features aren't placed properly according to the center line you made

[Anonymous No.3233312]

This painting is not finished. I did it at night. The character is from my imagination, I usually have stories in my mind. I would like to know what do you think.

Also I didn't use reference so it maybe lack of cool shapes and design.

Do you like it?

Do you think is generic? lame? lack of design? boring?

What do you think about the edges?

is my brushwork mindless and chaotic for you?

[Anonymous No.3233338]

>>3233312
I can't tell what's happening with the right arm, the left is clearly like a double skeleton arm, but I don't know about the right
having a big cloak over everything kind of prevents you from having any design because it's all covered up
leave the hood and maybe sleeves to hide the origin of the arms, which I think was your idea, but otherwise get rid of it, and add some stuff, jewelry, whatever
the highlight at the top of the head does not fit at all with anything else

[Anonymous No.3233345]

>>3233312
It does not read well. The face and drapery on hood/shoulder bugs me the most.

[Anonymous No.3233353]

>>3233143

[Anonymous No.3233355]

>>3233338

>>3233338
The right arm yep, actually I I like it how it is, but you are right. I want to add a sword there. And the skeleton is like trying to get out like crazy.

I can see my lack of design. Even if is with not reference I should do better. Get cool graphics shapes working with the composition is hard. With no preparation this stuff happens.

Zero understanding of drapery and fashion design lol

Thank for your time anon.

[Anonymous No.3233356]

>>3233082
Little improvement and still very meh.

[Anonymous No.3233357]

>>3233345
When you say it does read well, you. Mean you don’t know what is going on?

Actually inspected drapery issues. I had no study about it. And the face I was trying to use graphic shapes on it like legender fail hahhaha

[Anonymous No.3233358]

>>3233356
Not that anon but point out what's meh about it. Seeing responses to other anons help me out a bit

[Anonymous No.3233367]

>>3233143
Are you even studying Loomis man? I'm not even trying to put you down. Try watching Proko's videos on head construction he simplifies the Loomis method well.

Before that you should really break some very fundamental bad habits. Fuzzy line, drawing with your wrist, scattered focus.

[Anonymous No.3233374]

>>3233082
Not bad, the improvement is very noticeable.

Keep going!!

[Anonymous No.3233395]

Can I just skim through the loomis expressions? I get what they're going for but that cartoon type isn't interesting

[Anonymous No.3233397]

[Anonymous No.3233398]

>>3233395
you can do whatever you want any way you want, just do it seriously

[Anonymous No.3233402]

>>3233082
I have no idea what fundamentals you practiced but shifting around details on basically the same image makes little difference if it's still flawed at its core.
Same stumpy legs, same stiff pose with one leg awkwardly jutting out.
Work on your gesture for a more dynamic pose and your proportions (unless her looking like a dwarf was intentional)

[Anonymous No.3233507]

>>3232609
need answer

[Anonymous No.3233510]

>>3233507
if ant were around they would let you know
try at least a 750Xsomething pixels image so we can see whats going on

[Anonymous No.3233512]

>>3233510
you can see, stop being pedantic

[Anonymous No.3233518]

>>3233512
nice meme

[Anonymous No.3233519]

[Anonymous No.3233524]

>>3233518
nice answer

[Anonymous No.3233558]

what literature should i read?
which exercises should i focus on?
is there any resource for brush pen drawing?

[Anonymous No.3233577]

>>3233558
The sticky
One-Stop Beginners' Guide
and do Step 1 for now.

[Anonymous No.3233651]

>>3233577
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj


the Picasso excercise?

[Anonymous No.3233787]

Question. When I draw a lot of my drawings end up being rough looking or harsh. How do I get them to be softer looking like with this.

[Anonymous No.3233800]

>>3233787
Obviously, you need to use soft brush. Not sure what software do you use, but try some inking brush perhaps or pen tools.

[Anonymous No.3233803]

>>3233558
keys to drawing is all you need for like a month

[Anonymous No.3233805]

>>3232967
draw bigger

[Anonymous No.3233856]

Please critique my shading. I've only really been drawing in earnest for the past 5-6 days. What can I do to up my shading game?

[Anonymous No.3233860]

>>3233856
Create a value chart, use more values.

[Anonymous No.3233865]

>>3233860
Still more values,eh? I had added some with this one, but yeah, it is even still far too limited in tone. I need to get into the habit of applying a proper base tone and making my striations less obvious. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3233883]

I Wont work on it more. Why? because I don't know more than this. Hands re awkward and the drapery is too. I'm still studying hands and brush work.

I think the design is okay, its not super original but the character is from my pure imagination. What I found interesting is that the graphics shapes can be applied to the rendering and the brushwork, leyendcker does something like this but is was not successful. I discorver another type of edge, an edge that huston use when painting, I tried to do the same but I'm not satisfied with it also huston makes the light bounce like proko with graphite, Next study I will do better.

Good experience.

[Anonymous No.3233890]

how do you calculate sub surface scattering?

[Anonymous No.3233891]

>>3233883
U should work on ur folds and ur shadows, both of these are sup-par on the hood and face.

keep it up anon :)

[Anonymous No.3233894]

>>3233890
math

[Anonymous No.3233896]

[Anonymous No.3233898]

Can I have some critique on the figures?

[Anonymous No.3233903]

>>3233891
Man, lol

I know, but I'm studying a lot of anotomy and the hands are my priority right know. After know how to draw anatomy good with no reference I will jump to drapery.

I know about shadows but I get confuse when doing drappery, can't aproach the fold like planes, I don't know why.

[Anonymous No.3233907]

How do you shade in digital art?
All my attempts look something like this.

[Anonymous No.3233909]

>>3233907
Calm down
If you have your tablet well configured do this

https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/brush-technique-blending

[Anonymous No.3233912]

>>3233890

I think the only way to get this amazing details of how light behaves is from life. There is not space from it. After a lot of experience you don even think about it, you just do it. Its like magic lol

[Anonymous No.3233913]

>>3233803
>>3233558

anything to focus on?

[Anonymous No.3233917]

>>3232925
Im trying to get the hang of this portraits thing.
how did I do? what would you recommend i do to improve?

[Anonymous No.3233918]

>>3233917
reference

[Anonymous No.3233923]

>>3233558
Man, this is the begginer thread so if you are coming here as beg, you start from zero.

The first step is the hardest one.
"Learn to see." Art is more complex than you think.

You may frustrate, cry, depress. but keep working. Go to the sticky.

[Anonymous No.3233926]

>>3233133

Forget the numbers. Just do it until you get it.

[Anonymous No.3233929]

>>3233917

Facial features too small.

Shade with darker values.

[Anonymous No.3233934]

>>3233402
>I have no idea what fundamentals you practiced
I had practiced mostly using Vilppu's method of construction and basic anatomy. I only got into gesturing very lightly before classes started up and I lost a lot of my free time.

>same stiff pose with one leg awkwardly jutting out.
The pose has to be the same, I was drawing the same piece again. It is quite stiff, it was an absolute pain boxing out and I couldn't find a reference if I tried, but most of the stiffness lies in the arms.

The legs are relatively natural, it's a simple strut like pose (I just stood up and did it myself, and it feels natural,) but the arms and hands are very odd.

>(unless her looking like a dwarf was intentional)
She looks like she'd be maybe 5'3"~4" standing straight. The calves are a bit short, I'm not disagreeing, but not as bad as you seem to make it.

[Anonymous No.3233936]

>>3233917
This is a copy of a study I did from a book called "Fundamentals of Drawing"

A portrait is hard, The most important part is the measurement, to do this you simplify the shapes of the face. Block IN is called.

Don't worry about shading until you line drawing looks good, when I mean good, I mean good measurements. No contour.

[Anonymous No.3233943]

Can any clip studio paint bros tell me their inking/sketching settings?

[Anonymous No.3233945]

>>3233936
I always start my portraits by drawing simplified shapes that kind of help me get a feel of the positioning if the facial features, but i don't know if there any guidlines or anything for this whole "blockin " thing which I suppose is essential to getting the measurments right, which is what i always mess up

[Anonymous No.3233949]

>>3233945
>>3233936

Is there anywhere i can read up more on this?

[Anonymous No.3233960]

>>3233949
The book is Fundamentals of drawing by V.A. Mongilevtsev (english version),

I did >>3233936 fallowing instructions from the book,

You can find this book in a old artbook Thread, someone uploaded it.

[Anonymous No.3233961]

it's hard to believe anybody here one person says one thing and they say another and it changes back again so can i just copy the real life pictures or not

[Anonymous No.3233962]

>>3233961
Go outside and draw trees.

[Anonymous No.3233968]

Brush work and render can use graphic shapes to do even better work? I don't how to explain it. What is your opinion about this? am I overthinking? how is this called? see pic. brushwork and shapes on folds.

[Anonymous No.3233970]

>>3233960
Thank you for taking the time to help me out

[Anonymous No.3233971]

>>3233961
This is the time when you behave like a man and test it yourself. Obviously life drawing is better, harder but better. lol

[Anonymous No.3233980]

>>3233961
all you need to do is feel the form anon. Real life drawing makes that easier, that's literally it. If you can feel the form, do whatever the hell you want.

[Anonymous No.3233985]

I've spent the past half hour drawing and erasing the head of this can opener, but I still can't even get the outside right. Is there some sort of trick to drawing manmade objects?

[Anonymous No.3233988]

>>3233985
What you want is industrial design. I don’t mean the part where you create, I mean the skill. This is hard because is heavy in perspective and accuracy. I recommend

Scott Robertson how to draw

[Anonymous No.3233989]

Is there anywhere other than porn that I can find references for female genitalia?

[Anonymous No.3233990]

>>3233961

Drawing from life makes it easy to see things in 3D. You can move around the subject or touch it.

Photo is a 2D representation of real life. You have to constantly think of the subject in the photo as something that exist in 3D. Which is really hard for most beginners.

[Anonymous No.3233992]

>>3233988
I was just doing a keys to drawing lesson. Should I try and squeeze something out, or should I move onto something simpler?

[Anonymous No.3233993]

>>3233960
Im sorry.
im dumb.
ive been looking for the past 20mins for the thread you were talking about and i can't find it anywhere, i don't know where to download it if it exists in pDF format.
can you at least help me out by linking me to the thread,? I feel like I really need this book

[Bad Anatomy No.3233997]

Hello guys, I made a vow to Jesus Christ to never share any drawing ever gain online, *VOW LOCKED IN*

The deed is done.

[Anonymous No.3233999]

>>3233997
>Namefagging
Why?

[Anonymous No.3234000]

>>3233960
nevermind i found it, sorry for being such a bother.
Again thank you so much for your help, Im gonna study this book

[Anonymous No.3234003]

my anime faces are always ugly
but today
a cute
upboat if you agree
http://www.strawpoll.me/14609074

[Anonymous No.3234004]

>>3233923
I will try, thanks!

[Anonymous No.3234010]

>>3233992
Apply common sense.

You don’t run 10 miles your first day. You first run 1 then 2 then 3. Like the gym with weights

Simple to complex. This apply in art.

Like big shapes then medium shapes then smaller shapes.

[Bad Anatomy No.3234013]

>>3233999

Because SOME people post pics to Paheal without permission.

[Anonymous No.3234014]

>>3234003
I getting closer anon. lol the secret for cuteness are kids faces. You take their proportions and exaggerate them.

[bones No.3234033]

>>3232925

warm up from this mourning

[Anonymous No.3234042]

So many drawings without any replies.
I'm disappointed in you /beg/
>>3233006
>>3233031
>>3233034
>>3233035
>>3233397
>>3233519
>>3233896
>>3233898
Very good. Technically sound.

[Anonymous No.3234059]

>>3234042

[Anonymous No.3234063]

I tried drawing my sister's family as a Christmas card. Will they make fun of me for how bad it is?

[Anonymous No.3234064]

>>3234063
If you are underage, they won't.

[Anonymous No.3234067]

>>3234064
I'm 28

[Anonymous No.3234069]

>>3234067
They will make fun of you. Time to step it up.

[Anonymous No.3234070]

>>3234063
maybe next year anon

[Anonymous No.3234074]

>>3234069
Well then they get nothing this year since I'm too broke to afford presents. Too bad my lack of talent ruined Christmas :(

[Anonymous No.3234075]

>>3234074
weak

[Anonymous No.3234077]

>>3234074
Just buy them some chocolate bars

[Anonymous No.3234078]

>>3234077
You don't understand

[Anonymous No.3234081]

>>3234063
Make a standard christmas card and include the drawing as a PS, not like attached to the letter but in like the edge of the paper, don't make it look like it was the main selling point of the card.

>PS: just a quick doodle I made of you guys, happy holidays

There, suddenly it's a lot less autistic.

[Anonymous No.3234084]

>>3234078

[Anonymous No.3234093]

Is this a good drawing? I want to draw Jodie Foster holding a lamb too.

[Anonymous No.3234102]

>>3234078
give them the card then, it's better than nothing

[Anonymous No.3234139]

I have been trying to improve upon this drawing and it is not even the first version of it that I have done.


I don't know if NSFW stuff is allowed but I really need some help to get better.

[Anonymous No.3234226]

Is there a resource where I could continue to draw and practice beans, and see the answers for said exercise without paying the jew

[Anonymous No.3234228]

>>3234226
cgpeers

[Anonymous No.3234231]

>>3234228
I keep forgetting that that website exists. Knew making an account forever ago would come in handy. Cheers anon

[Anonymous No.3234269]

Hey guys, I'm really fucking bad at art, and need help. For reference's sake, i'll post an attempted drawing of mine recently.
Specifically, i need help with construction. For some reason, I cannot seem to draw properly with my full arm, whereas my wrist and elbow is relatively ok (sorry, that's a lie). Could you guys help me improve? Sorry, and thank you for your time.

[Anonymous No.3234279]

Just kill me already.

[Anonymous No.3234282]

>>3234279
>That head
>That anatomy

Gladly

[Anonymous No.3234305]

Quick puppy sketch

[Anonymous No.3234306]

>>3234305

[Anonymous No.3234315]

>>3232609
need answer

[Anonymous No.3234321]

Trying to learn how to draw cartoons so here are some Jazza studies.

[Anonymous No.3234327]

>>3234315
this is a pretty bad character trait

there was a really good post in a thread somewhere (i didn't save the image like an idiot) about people who spend too much time on /ic/ and especially spending their time relying on advice to help them push through

in reality, you should spend little time here yet take advantage of the resources and not be so dependent on other's feedback when what you want to learn/improve on could be done with just studies, understanding of values, and knowing how to blend well (which comes with practice)

the idea is that self-critique and analysis goes a really long way and when you cry every thread saying "need answer" goes against the common-sense solution: being independent, which in turn leads to a less stressful process

i like you but i'm afraid of what's going to happen if you suddenly don't have a support system in the future

[Anonymous No.3234329]

>>3234327
>cry
>support system
seems like you are drastically overestimating the time and emotional involvement it takes to ask again for crits. that post took 10 seconds out of my day and might potentially get me some information that will aid my progression. its an evidently efficient decision

[Anonymous No.3234331]

>>3234327
>writes an entire lecture of information on why he doesn't need an answer to his question
>>3234315
1. post higher res next time
2. some of your values aren't dark enough
3. no hard edges, everything is blended

[Anonymous No.3234332]

>>3234093
might be a good drawing but its a horrible pic.

and from what I can see her jas is f'd up big.

[Anonymous No.3234333]

>>3234321
>Jazza studies
is this bait?

[Anonymous No.3234337]

>>3234331
isnt it the case that hard edges dont exist with the exception of direct light/shadow? only differing steepness of blends. is it a fault in that varying steepness?

[Anonymous No.3234340]

>>3234337
Maybe in real life they're not always clear or visible but in painting it always helps to accentuate the form. They are always where the planes face away from the light or where two different forms converge. Blending everything can end up softening the form and making things looks blurry/muddy. It's sometimes useful if you want to portray the softness of a subject (like people do when painting women's faces) but for hard solid objects like statues it helps to include hard edges. Even if they aren't necessarily visible you should try to visualize where they might be and see if it looks better with the inclusion of a hard edge or without.

[Anonymous No.3234341]

I've been drawing drawabox for a bit and have studied hands, when do I get to use charcoal and kneaded erasers?

[Anonymous No.3234343]

[Anonymous No.3234347]

>>3234333
Why would it be bait, are my studies just really bad? Also nice trips.

[Anonymous No.3234350]

>>3234340
>Maybe in real life they're not always clear or visible but in painting it always helps to accentuate the form
thats either top tier information or muh style faggotry. i know its a meme but could i perhaps ask you to post your work so that i can see your skill level

[Anonymous No.3234360]

>>3234350
lmao

[Anonymous No.3234362]

>>3234350
I mean you don't have to believe me, try for yourself. I'm /beg/ tier as well but that's what makes sense to me.

[Anonymous No.3234363]

>>3234347
Jazza is a meme.

[Anonymous No.3234372]

[Anonymous No.3234432]

[Anonymous No.3234437]

>>3234321
this cant be real

[Anonymous No.3234447]

>>3234343
not a good grasp over brushes and symbol drawing.
start over and try again
this time draw the shapes not the objects

[Anonymous No.3234453]

>>3234329
>10 seconds out of my day

Hey retard, then why did you come back? Just admit you were wrong and stop embarrassing yourself.

[Anonymous No.3234458]

How does the gesture of this pose look like?

[Anonymous No.3234467]

>>3234321
this is a new low. sorry newbie, but pls dont do jazza studies.

[Anonymous No.3234483]

>>3234458
gesture isnt constant like that. its whatever you want it to be, as long as you follow the flow of the human body, and often times exaggerate it.

Look at how different artist does it. Theres Villppu, Huston and even Loomis if you want to be a IC crab.

[Anonymous No.3234488]

>>3234453
>literally received a detailed reply for the fact that i asked again
>wrong for asking
>despite the fact that it literally fulfilled its purpose
ok kid

[Anonymous No.3234493]

>>3234321
made me kek, 10/10

[Anonymous No.3234495]

>>3234321
>>3234493
but for serious don't watch jazza videos, his lacks in fundamentals and terrible drawing styles are wrong way for begginers.

[Anonymous No.3234506]

A little off topic but how do I come up with a good username? I'm trying to start a blog but I just don't know what to pick.

[Anonymous No.3234515]

>>3233787
>>3233800
>Obviously, you need to use soft brush
Obviously, you are an idiot. Pic related didn't use a soft brush, but a high dpi in a decent drawing software.
Just make the canvas big enough and don't use the legacy pen. If you're working in MS Paint you can forget about smooth lines like that.

>>3233133
At 5 minutes per doll it would take 83 hours. This doesn't take into consideration that you need several skills before being able to draw such doll in that time frame like the motoric skills of drawing the lines you want, the skill of estimating proportions and the skill of understanding forms, as well as basic knowledge about figure drawing such as gesture, balance and landmarks.

The draw 1000 is just silly. Rushing through it won't get you anywhere. If you're interested in this, just read the first few chapters of Hampton's book, he's pretty straight forward with the process.

As for the time frame: It doesn't matter. It depends on your existing skill, your dedication, effort and learning ability. Pic realted is on a relatively low skill level that should be achievable in a reasonable amount of time, even for an absolute beginner.

>>3234483
Someone on /beg/ who actually read their shit? Nice.

[Anonymous No.3234527]

Maybe a really stupid question but I've been doing some drawabox since I started literally two days ago and he advocates ''ghosting'' every line you draw a couple of times until you are comfortable with the motion.
Should I be ghosting only straight lines or also my circles and ellipses?

[Anonymous No.3234537]

Had no idea drawing spheres and ovals would be this hard. Any tips on how to freehand these better, or will I just get it with repetition and observation (drawing 100 carefully)?

[Anonymous No.3234551]

I'm doing canovas rape of Persephone in the borghese, any tips on the proportions? Also how do I get these feet down, I only have a phone not a laptop it's hard to see the feet in the picture.

[Anonymous No.3234553]

>>3234551

[Anonymous No.3234554]

>>3234553

Lay the foundations down before adding in shading and details to make sure you've got the proportions right.

[Anonymous No.3234556]

>>3234554

I did, I'm working backwards on this one, charcoal powder, here's another one I did which is lighter. I have to go in and take out all the excess. I accidentally used too much powder on the 2nd one.

[Anonymous No.3234558]

i draw some animu, am i good?

[Anonymous No.3234561]

>>3234558
It's appealing. Hair is a bit too clunky for anime style and you messed up the perspective on the lower head.

>>3234556
I know charcoal is a messy medium, but try to place your shadows more precicely. Also go darker. BE BOLD!

>>3234537
Those look actually quite good. Keep going.

[Anonymous No.3234563]

>>3234537
A tip is that just like how a cube never has a far side larger than a close side, for a cylinder you never have a close ellipse of a greater angle than a far ellipse. If you look at the bottom right, you can see that the width of the ovals don't progress as they should.

[Anonymous No.3234608]

>>3234458
I assume you are confused by proko gesture tutorial. That thing he said about how all poses can be reduced to S or C curve is not a rule.

[Anonymous No.3234628]

Started getting in to art recently. Having a lot of trouble with the human body. Any advice on these proportions? ty

[Anonymous No.3234631]

>>3234628
Meant to be a girl by the way.

[Anonymous No.3234633]

>try to draw beefy old guy
>end up with Steve fucking Vai
At least I found some things I like that I can work on.

[Anonymous No.3234635]

>>3234633

[Anonymous No.3234662]

i can draw from reference but everything i do from imagination still sucks.
is this worth cleaning?

[Anonymous No.3234665]

>>3234662
Give the styrofoam cup eyes some depth to the forms maybe go bigger with the features, figure out how to render it all and throw in some atmospheric perspective and see what you like and what you want to work on.

[Anonymous No.3234667]

>>3234628
hnnnng hot damn them curves

[Anonymous No.3234669]

>>3234665
>atmospheric perspective
whats this?
>eyes depth
got it
>render it
i'll try but its my weakness
thanks for the advice

[Anonymous No.3234670]

>>3234662
cleaning not yet, but pushing forward, yes

[Anonymous No.3234676]

>>3234669
More depth. The idea is interesting but it's in the execution.

[Anonymous No.3234677]

thoughts?

[Anonymous No.3234679]

>>3234677

[Anonymous No.3234680]

>>3234677
keys and bargue. train skill at observation
>>3234676
>more depth
>draws the same thing flatter
shiggy

[Anonymous No.3234681]

>>3234680
I got my point across about playing with the depth of the features and atmospheric perspective in less than 2 minutes.

[Anonymous No.3234689]

>>3234488
says the guy who was wrong

[Anonymous No.3234698]

rendering in krita is hard

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3234700]

How do you go from only really using pen to digital?

I dont get it at all, the brushes, smug, ect :(

anyone got any tips?

[Anonymous No.3234710]

[Anonymous No.3234712]

If I want to eventually move to digital should I start with pencil or pen?

[Anonymous No.3234761]

I was told to come here since apparently,despite my own skills that were self-taught,I don't know how to draw.

A lot of it came down to anatomy,perspective and composition that is killing me here in this drawing that I have tried to work on for a long long time.

I need some help since my skills aren't really improving the way I have hoped.

[Anonymous No.3234768]

>>3234670
what do you mean by pushing forward?

[Anonymous No.3234778]

>>3234768
continue like you've been doing

[Anonymous No.3234785]

This is one of the older varaints which I drew before coming here.

I was told that unless I get the basics down I am wasting my time.

But other than the same old copy pasta,not many people have helped me that much to improve.

[Anonymous No.3234791]

>>3234778
please help me understand

[Anonymous No.3234798]

>>3234791
sorry, I give up.

[Anonymous No.3234858]

>>3232972
That's why there is ZinLim on youtube, but nobody seems to listen on IC baka

>>3232973

[Anonymous No.3234872]

>>3233917
Simple your proportions seem correct, though I recommend using straight lines first to capture the proportions correctly. And also indicate the areas of shadow with straight lines. So your work won't simply be line work. In order to learn faster I suggest taking a look at some Zin Lim videos online that may help you, also if you're keen to learn further maybe try take a read of A Guide to figure drawing by G.E Hicks you can find the book easily online

[Anonymous No.3234876]

>>3233960
Anon, i suggest that the book A guide to figure drawing by G.E Hicks which is only 43 pages may help you to a greater degree compared to the book you have but also manage to supplement the book you're learning from

[Anonymous No.3234886]

>>3234876
It's a pretty hefty book that has a lot of instruction. Hicks is good too, but russian academic masturbation has that look and a style that makes a wonderful starting point with a large bag of stylistic tricks.

[Anonymous No.3234921]

I fucking hate these cintiqs and their million and one issues

[Anonymous No.3234963]

>>3234785
can you explain wtf i'm looking at and any place i can follow your work?

[Anonymous No.3235006]

pleas tell how improve

[Anonymous No.3235038]

>>3234341
whenever you want. try out different mediums constantly!

[Anonymous No.3235046]

>>3232925
Sorry for shit pic but can someone help me get the lids perspective right for this box? The Middle box is original focal points average 2 either side. I cant seem to make the lid look right.

[Anonymous No.3235047]

Back with the rest of week 2 of dynamic sketching. So I tried to follow this anon`s advice >>3232318 and tried focusing on making curvature of the Contour Lines on the sides more extreme/adding more of the lines and hopefully in the process made them more solid/3d.

I did notice, that my muscle memory is already used to doing it more flat, like this: >>3232313 so I did notice some errors appearing, like overshooting the form and generally worse line quality, but that should fix itself by practice.

[Anonymous No.3235058]

>>3235047
I wanted to do 3 pages of textures, but I fell a bit short on that goal. I think I will just completed a thirth page during week 3, on the side.

I also noticed that I could have easily pushed the 3d quality of these, so that could be a good focuse on page 3.

[Anonymous No.3235061]

>>3235047
>>3235058
nice

[Anonymous No.3235064]

>>3235058
I think these came out a bit shit, not going to lie. I kept making such stupid basic ass perspective mistakes, but the good thing is, that I do notice most of those and knowing is half of the battle.

[Anonymous No.3235072]

>>3235046
The one you crossed out is the most right. just draw an ellipse around the hinge and wing it. The long explanation is read How to Draw by Robertson or watch the vandruff perspective videos. You now have 2 vanishing points and 2 traces.

[Anonymous No.3235082]

>>3232925

12 years of no improvement, I give up.

[Anonymous No.3235083]

>>3235058

[Anonymous No.3235108]

Wooh, best quick study I've done in a week. Time to pat myself on the ass and go do something else before I look at all the glaring issues.

[Anonymous No.3235109]

Silly question here.

I have some understanding of how light behaves. You know the basics. How to render a sphere. Cube, etc.
I never studied this from life. But books (Scott Robertson) p.
Even with this I feel I missing something. It’s just really practice? Or maybe I don’t know something important.

I want to master values.
How can I do that? Making cast drawing from life? Drawing using block-in from sculptures from life? Or just random objects? What do you think anon?
How artists like Peleng did it?

How can I start?

[Anonymous No.3235110]

>>3235082
post yer werk

[Anonymous No.3235112]

>>3235108
Wooh, it's really shitty but I sure did learn a lot.

[Anonymous No.3235113]

>>3235082
Post your work and let’s see if that is true.
Are you gonna waste time playing ga,es or watching tv? Everyday?
Wtf come on. Stand up. And keep working!

[Anonymous No.3235119]

>>3235112
holy fuck the shoop

[Anonymous No.3235144]

>>3235061
Thank you anon

>>3235083
Hey, thats pretty good.

[Anonymous No.3235178]

>>3235144
fuck off anon I clearly didn't mean to reply to you

[Anonymous No.3235180]

>>3234700
Just play around with it and experiment. Work with a very large canvas. I admire your persistent effort and desire to get better man. You've definitely got some talent too. Definitely gonna make it.

>>3234761
>>3234785
>I need some help since my skills aren't really improving the way I have hoped
What about the advice you were already given.

>I was told that unless I get the basics down I am wasting my time.
You are wasting your time if your goal is to get better, yes.

>But other than the same old copy pasta,not many people have helped me that much to improve
You have been given advice. Good advice. The ONLY advice. By me, actually. I really hope you are not implying that my advice of learning anatomy and perspective and grinding fundamentals is the "same old copypasta." I even gave you specific resources which will start you on your way.

I told you before: your focus is too scattered and you are biting off more than you can chew. You are not skilled enough to be tackling elaborate finished compositions when you don't even understand anatomy and perspective.

What exactly are looking to hear by coming here and asking for vague advice again? You have been given the best advice for someone at your skill level.

[Anonymous No.3235187]

>>3233917
Learn proper head construction and then be more disciplined and conscious about drawing what you actually see filling in the features. Many beginners do what you've done here, where facial features are kind of smeared and skewed over on the face to be more front oriented. This is because your unconscious brain is taking control a bit and you are symbol drawing to a degree. Pic is your brain's idea of lips, so your impulse is to draw more like that.

Draw what you see. Look at it again. Her facial features are far too small.

[Anonymous No.3235188]

>>3232925
http://itsalmo.st/#krautrevolution


EINPROZENT.DE

[Anonymous No.3235192]

>>3235047
>>3235058
>>3235064
Nice job man

[Anonymous No.3235197]

gesture stuff
redline / crit please
not sure If I'm doing it right.

[Anonymous No.3235199]

>>3235197
#2

[Anonymous No.3235204]

>>3235197
>>3235199
i think you just need longer lines for your curves and maybe pay attention to the major shapes like the ribcage and pelvis more. try working with a pen for gestures for a while, that might help you notice problems in your line quality that makes nice curves look kinda bad.

[Anonymous No.3235207]

How does this thread make you feel, /beg/gars?

>>3231009

[Anonymous No.3235211]

I draw every day but I don't get better.

[Anonymous No.3235225]

>>3235207
I just post shit so other people have hope of improving. It's pretty dead on overall. There's problems and it's up to all of us to fix them.

[Anonymous No.3235230]

>>3235207
they're right, but /ic/ in general has things mixed up. the most effective way to inspire learning is to create an incentive, rather than force progress through fear of punishment.

when i first started out, people kept telling me what i shouldn't do, and that i shouldn't use 'x' material or whatever, and i was afraid of trying different mediums and start digital painting. i think people on /ic/ are so focused on the grind they forget what they're drawing for in the first place. it seems like most people have lofty dreams of becoming a concept artist, so it's strange to me that people could take themselves so seriously when they're going to be drawing spaceships or goblins or nerdy stuff.

[Anonymous No.3235312]

>>3235197
>>3235199
Start by being mindful of the hip and shoulder angle.
Construct from the major masses, don't just draw out.
Long flowing confident lines, not chicken scratches.
Exaggerate.

>>3235211
How and what are you drawing? And what are your goals. Post work and then where you want to be. If you are beginner you are probably doing these things, it's probably why.

-Drawing from imagination

-doing too much (trying to finish a piece, working on shading when your perspective sucks, trying to put your whole damn animu fantasy on paper etc).

-simply not practicing enough (everyday could mean only 20 minutes a day)

-inhibited by excuses and rationalizations that mask your weak will in terms of grinding boring technical stuff (this is just my style, I just want to draw anime so I don't need Proko-semai, etc.)

Remember, just pure hours put into drawing isn't everything. If you are not practicing mindfully and effectively you're just internalizing errors and you will be stuck in a loop.

[Anonymous No.3235339]

[Anonymous No.3235391]

>>3235339
Why not turn down the softness on your hardroundbrush and smooth it out to look clean and nice now.

[Anonymous No.3235399]

>>3233112
loomis

[Anonymous No.3235404]

[Anonymous No.3235407]

>>3232925
How to Draw from shoulder? I cannot draw from shoulder with an L shaped arm because I don't know how to lock the elbow joint, but if my arm is straight, I can do it.
Asking because I've never seen a good video about shoulder drawing showing the entire fucking arm.

[Anonymous No.3235408]

>>3235404

[Anonymous No.3235415]

>>3234437
>>3234467
>>3234493
>>3234495
Sorry if this sounds retarded but am I being memed on? Jazza's work is really good. I understand if you don't like the cartoony look or lack of shading but everything seems well done. Could you point out why he's bad/show your work so I can reference where you're coming from? Don't mean to come off as rude, just want to learn more.

[Anonymous No.3235430]

>>3235391
how the heck do I blend if the brush is hard?

[Anonymous No.3235432]

>>3235430
turn down the hardness

[Anonymous No.3235435]

old drawing of female okuyasu

[Anonymous No.3235450]

>>3235006
Try working with skin texture, your values are decent. Watch your shaky lines, though: the one on the bottom looks messy.

[Anonymous No.3235451]

>>3235415
anon how many artists are you aware of? jazza's work is only a few steps above beg, he's definitely worse than a lot of people in the alt and draw threads. his anatomy is fairly weak and the colors/value are pretty average. you might as well just do the studies in fun with a pencil instead of doing jazza's mediocre tutorials.

[Anonymous No.3235456]

>>3234556
rely on contrast, not outlines
marble is white, so it's in your favor to color in the background. The negative space is just as important as the figures.

Also keep in mind the whitest areas and the darkest areas.

[Anonymous No.3235488]

Finally got my hands on my first tablet. I gotta say, this is pretty fun. Although I didn't expect to get used to the disconnect so quickly.

[Anonymous No.3235502]

How do I draw lines on my tablet that don't look like they were made by an un-medicated schizophrenic having an epileptic seizure?

[Anonymous No.3235505]

>>3234042
>So many drawings without any replies.
>Very good. Technically sound.

Decent stuff usually doesn't get commented on. People want to shit on bad stuff instead, in addition to good stuff just needing fewer critiques.

[Anonymous No.3235547]

someone trolled me in the sketchbook thread, is my art bad >ic?

[Anonymous No.3235549]

>>3235547

[Anonymous No.3235550]

>>3235415
>Jazza's work is really good

It's really not. It is not to say that Jazza has no skill or know-how at all, but calling him "really good" is such a massive stretch. The main problem is definitely with his coloring and rendering which is still so weak and misses the mark far too much.

On the left and rightmost drawings the value scales are so flaccid it makes my head hurt. They look like not yet finished works. Not pushing value is a common rookie mistake. Middle left is laughable with that sharp black outline around the hair. The orc is decent but still looks a tad flat. Like I said, it's not that he has no ability. I don't know when these we're made, and they're from a compendium of works he has for sale (lel) you have to assume he has chosen these as representative works.

Beyond that his figures are stiff, like he hasn't learned gesture, I don't know that he has any good grasp of perspective or any compositional skills. He tends to just draw forward facing and 3/4 figures in empty space.

Jazza seems like a nice guy and a bro, but you have so many other options that there is no reason to go with Jazza's tutorials. Jazza has serious improving to do himself, not that I think he will. When you've settled into millions of subs and status as a tutorial guru for people worse than you, it might be hard to find the hunger to improve.

I hate sounding like a hater, and I definitely don't begrudge Jazza his online success, but I do think it is unfortunate that the most popular art instruction presence on Youtube is him.

[Anonymous No.3235565]

Some warmup sketcharoonies

[Anonymous No.3235567]

>>3235565
Mind sharing some more finished stuff anon? I'm intrigued because these are mostly good but in some instances you made some very noticeable errors.

[Anonymous No.3235571]

>>3235567
mind pointing out the errors? Also I don't really do much finished stuff, this is probably the farthest I've taken something and I probably could've polished it way more.

[Anonymous No.3235579]

[Anonymous No.3235580]

>>3235579
a

[Anonymous No.3235591]

>>3235571
Why is that? You're pretty good. For the most part they'd be nitpicky. Big one though is on the full body girl on the right, the outer peak of her calf is lower than the inner when it should be the other way around.

[Anonymous No.3235599]

>>3235591
>the outer peak of her calf is lower than the inner
Ah I see it now, I think I noticed it while drawing as evidenced by me redrawing it several times yet I still fucked it up. I should probably stop going straight in with pen. Thanks for pointing it out.
>why is that
I've always enjoyed looking at quick sketches more than finished work and I also don't think I'm that good so I avoid wasting too much time on things. I'm also interested in doing animation so getting good at quick sketching is probably for the best. I have been getting into digital lately which is really tricky (and makes my stuff look 10x worse) but maybe I'll do more finished stuff in the future. I told myself I'd start finishing things after I escape /beg/ but I'm still here.

[Anonymous No.3235608]

>>3235549
It's not horrible anon but there's definitely room for improve.

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3235610]

>>3235180
tnx anon, that means alot :)

[Anonymous No.3235619]

>>3233934
>The pose has to be the same
I wasn't suggesting you suddenly draw her sitting or lying down or curling into a ball.
The stiffness is something you can fix even if the intention (so to speak) of the pose remains the same.
Also the arms are not the main culprit of the overall stiffness, rather its the lack of motion (twist & tilt) Proko: https://youtu.be/yqxPHew5bGQ?t=5m38s
The same principle of motion can also apply to the legs.

>She looks like she'd be maybe 5'3"~4" standing straight. The calves are a bit short, I'm not disagreeing, but not as bad as you seem to make it.
I was exaggerating a bit to make a point....

>>3234305
Pay more attention to your measurements and proportion.

>>3235197
Too much outline and clutter, but that's fine at this point, especially since gesture starts to shine through in some of them.
When you find yourself focusing too much on the outline try to think of the longest axis of each form and how to describe it in the longest most simple line.
Gesture is a really simple idea that is hard to grasp/implement, since it's mostly practice and questioning yourself if you're even doing it right it can be royally frustrating.
Theres nothing to be done except to keep practicing and to every now and then look up instructions (Proko, Vilppu or others) as not to go off the rails completely.

[Anonymous No.3235622]

>>3234495
Glad I'm not the only one that saw his work to be beginner tier, especially his Photoshop paintings.

[Anonymous No.3235628]

Is my art beginner level?

If it is beginner level can you critique it?

[Anonymous No.3235630]

>>3235502
stabilization on the tool you're using helps
other than that it's practice and getting more confident in your lines

[Anonymous No.3235635]

>>3234886
I agree completely that look and style is irreplaceable, I like Hicks cause he taught my how to draw the plates and as stupid as this seems he also taught me how to draw a line place two dots and draw a line in-between. Pretty helpful. Just for proof here's my insta @kpare24

>>3234886

[Anonymous No.3235641]

>>3235006
Nothing wrong, though I suggest if you want more responsiveness try get some charcoal and a kneaded eraser. Back to the eye, i found that pinterest is very helpful with finding eye tutorials just search something like "eye tutorial" and check my board on pinterest uni realism projects that might help you

[Anonymous No.3235644]

>>3235082
12 years, try checking ZinLim on YouTube he helped more than any other art teacher or art book. You probably find that you haven't mastered your basics, i suggest reading G.E Hicks a guide to figure drawing, focus on pages 1-30. To find the "antiques" he suggested you can download the Bargue Drawing Course online and print it. Best wishes

[Anonymous No.3235645]

>>3235109
With regards to values https://youtu.be/9W80Lz0PNSI this might help you, also check his other videos. Hope it helps anon

[Anonymous No.3235646]

>>3235339
Have a feeling this is going to be used for the next thumbnail for /beg/. Anon post your reference

[Anonymous No.3235650]

>>3234886
>pic
Source?
This is not Mogilevtsev. Can you spoonfeed pls.

[Anonymous No.3235651]

>>3235404
Good, now place in the values and bring the drawing to life. Transform the image into grayscale in order to help you. This vid may help you with regards to values, https://youtu.be/9W80Lz0PNSI , try and check other videos from the channel and apply them to your drawing. Hope it helps

>>3235408

[Anonymous No.3235653]

>>3235178
I luv u too anon.
>>3235192
Thank you for the nice words, my dude.

[Anonymous No.3235660]

>>3235430
I'm guessing your making use of digital painting, ok with blending you place your initial tonal values with a hard brush which I assume you have done. Now with regards to blending most amatures tend to try and smudge the colours in order to blend into one another, now in order for colours in order to seemlessy transition into one another you should make use of the following method.

You have black and white for example, instead of trying to blend by trying to smudge the colours together. One should place a midtone between the two colours so instesd of smudging the colours together, so instead of smudging black and white you place the colour grey inbetween, now it doesn't stop there so towards the white you should place a lighter tone of grey and towards the black you should place a lighter shade of black. So how you would see it is the following.

BLACK - DARK GREY- GREY- LIGHT GREY- WHITE

After doing this just blend the colours by taking on stroke and taking your brush vertically.

Here's a video that might help you
https://youtu.be/2BlpqCxxcEE

[Anonymous No.3235662]

>>3235502
Place two dots. And then draw a line in between. In order to get a better understanding of line, I suggest reading G.E Hicks a guide to figure drawing, the first 25 pages are most important. But with regards to your situation read the chapter consisting of line. You can find the book online easily. Hope this helps anon

[Anonymous No.3235666]

>>3235547
I have to tell you, unfortunately in terms of /ic/ where we value mainly art that consists of realism it is trash. Even in terms of cartoons its pretty bad, if you'd like to learn how to draw cartoons Loomis fun with the pencil may help. But with that consisting of around 200 pages, i suggest instead taking a shorter path and more beneficial path by reading G.E Hicks a guide to figure drawing, first 25 pages most important. If you follow the suggestions he has given to copy the plates, (from the bargue drawing course) it will help you to develop good taste. I think your taste has not been sufficiently developed in terms of art. Though copying the plates WILL BE HARD no easy feat by following G.E Hicks INSTRUCTIONS TO THE DOT. You'll be able to not to get ridiculed on IC for being a shitty artist.

Just to serve as a indicator that I'm not some beg my insta is @kpare24

[Anonymous No.3235668]

Calm down with your Hicks already, retard.

[Anonymous No.3235673]

>>3235550
I hate sounding like a shiller here but checking out ZinLim on youtube, i personally find him far better than most of the artists on youtube. But if you're afraid of the Meme. Another artist to look out for on youtube thats just as good is Vladimir Volegov https://youtu.be/hoIho9BE-bE . There is no commentary on both of the videos, but I find that this greatly helps the viewer as the process seems basic and is not rushed through, this helping amatures greatly .

[Anonymous No.3235676]

>>3235668
Ok I'm a retard, post your art and let /ic/ judge who's art is better then sir.

[Anonymous No.3235684]

>>3235668
Same guy here, that asked to post art here is my art and the rest is on insta @kpare24

[Anonymous No.3235685]

>>3235676
You first.

[Anonymous No.3235689]

>>3235666
>kpare24
you have really bad taste and not even great technical skill so i'm gonna take this with a grain of salt lol

[Anonymous No.3235690]

>>3235666
your sense of color and style is really generic and reminds me of fake deep art i see online

[Anonymous No.3235691]

>>3235689
>>3235690
Come on, people.
>Aspiring South African Artist
He is obviously trolling. Even niggers are not that retarded.
Just ignore.

[Anonymous No.3235692]

>>3235666
this looks like shit that was passed through a photoshop filter made to look "artsy" https://www.yooying.com/p/1571842619020132767_5793392116

[Anonymous No.3235693]

>>3235691
there are white south africans did you really not know that lmao

[Anonymous No.3235695]

another illustrat? lmaooo

[Anonymous No.3235705]

>>3235692
The rest of my art is on insta @kpare24 lemme post the progress photos then

[Anonymous No.3235708]

>>3235705

[Anonymous No.3235709]

>>3235708

[Anonymous No.3235710]

>Just to serve as a indicator that I'm not some beg
pls

[Anonymous No.3235711]

>>3235692
Show me your art anon

>>3235692
I did it myself, most of the stuff is oil on canvas

[Anonymous No.3235712]

>>3235705
i looked at your insta and it's fucking terrible, your taste is the same as aspiring middle-aged moms who are actually 20 who like "beautiful" and "creative" and "inspiring" pictures

[Anonymous No.3235715]

>>3235711
your art is the equivalent of someone who says they DJ as a career

[Anonymous No.3235720]

Wha's the best thing to draw as an absolute beginner?
I've been doing the drawabox excersises but I can't even draw a good ellipse or straight line freehand right now, and it's impossible to draw from life for me right now.

[Anonymous No.3235722]

>>3235720
>I can't even draw a good ellipse or straight line
Then practice drawing straight lines and ellipses until you can, you fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.3235723]

>>3235712
Mk post your art then, if you're going to insult at least accompany your art with it

[Anonymous No.3235800]

>>3235407
Just do this moves.
I’m not joking. He locks his wrist.

You are gonna use all the arm but first get use to draw locking your wrist and fingers

[Anonymous No.3235804]

>>3235549
You have the spark. If you did it from imagination.

[Anonymous No.3235808]

>>3235804
i did, thank you.

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[Anonymous No.3235822]

>>3235804
>shitty symbolic rip off of that ghibli fish film
>spark
dont ever post on these forums again phaggot

[Anonymous No.3235825]

>>3235810

Yesssss. Let’s make the first pic of all /beg/

[Anonymous No.3235830]

>>3235822
You mad?
I Post here everyday. I work hard. And everyone here can make it.
You are a toxic person. This is “beg”. Everyone started from symbols.

Did I say “you are not beg”
I like his character. Never told him he is a pro.

[Anonymous No.3235832]

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[Anonymous No.3235847]

Man my sense of gesture is terrible

[Anonymous No.3235878]

I got this tablet earlier this year and only just now started using it.

[Anonymous No.3235911]

>>3235450
>>3235641

thanks guys, will keep this in mind. my line confidence is atrocious.

[Anonymous No.3237005]

lord triton
son of poseidon