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Draw thread Anonymous Sat Dec 9 11:55:20 2017 No.3230258 [Reply] [Original]

Previous Thread: >>3222039

Post your current drawing here and provide helpful criticism and advice to others!

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>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 12:32:40 2017 No.3230295 File: 179 KB, 1200x658, kek.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3230258 Drawing as in drawn with pencil on paper? I've been doodling in digital a lot lately

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 12:47:13 2017 No.3230307 File: 444 KB, 1200x766, reblime.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3229938 Mostly asymmetry problems in eyes, nose, mouth, and flatness. Eyes look kind of over detailed and pasted on. All giving a derpy appearance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 12:51:28 2017 No.3230312 >>3230295 The vampire looks really nice and 3d, excellent forms.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 12:52:15 2017 No.3230314 >>3230307 thanks for tips.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 15:02:53 2017 No.3230447 File: 56 KB, 867x342, concepfacesss.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3230314

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 15:15:09 2017 No.3230458 File: 381 KB, 636x1000, reign of the last king.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] started working on this

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 15:46:54 2017 No.3230486 >>3230458 Holy shit that looks cool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 16:14:01 2017 No.3230511 File: 780 KB, 1920x1080, Experiment36.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can I have some (you)s, please?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 16:15:26 2017 No.3230513 >>3230511 no dopamine for you

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 16:19:23 2017 No.3230516 >>3230511 arent those eyeholes way too high up

>>	Ratface Sat Dec 9 17:00:44 2017 No.3230565 File: 1.39 MB, 2592x1944, 20171209_133050.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kyuubi plate

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 17:06:15 2017 No.3230569 File: 59 KB, 521x603, 11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] doodle,,

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 17:12:40 2017 No.3230571 File: 1.39 MB, 4160x3120, IMG_20171205_190257.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any feedback?

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 17:15:45 2017 No.3230575
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>>3230447
Ooh I like these
>>3230571
What the heck is going on
>>3230511
Harder brush dude, and is the defeated guy's armour made of aluminium? The perspective of the sword is contradictory to the rest of him.
>>3230258
I'm not feeling it with this thing I'm working on

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 17:46:54 2017 No.3230602

>>3230575
I'm not feeling it either. it's just a guy posing with his weapons in an empty void. What's the story behind it? How can you expect to have good shadows and reflected light on his outfit without any environment.
Unless it's a character concept art piece, in which case you didn't do a good job by hiding half his armor behind the shield.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 17:58:28 2017 No.3230611
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>>3230516
Now that you mention it, they are. Thanks.

>>3230575
Aluminium? You mean the reflections on her (I though soft features and long hair would give it out) cuirass? I didn't really think about the materials, as it's not set in any particular universe—just a picture inspired by a description (something like "old, ragged warrior in dented armor") in some article about art on design.tutplus, but I wanted to give her some kind of light-looking armor to emphasize that it's not actually a sturdy male knight like her "parent."

Perspective? Hard to point out, but it seems like the pose isn't read as intended because of the crotch, is it so?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:03:33 2017 No.3230615 File: 46 KB, 881x829, 2017-12-09 16_59_31-Untitled-1 @ 50% (Layer 2 copy 6, RGB_8) _.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] not sure where i was going with this desu maybe i'll sketch some super hero shit since he already has the chin

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:51:26 2017 No.3230657 File: 175 KB, 1000x649, Rock Lion 9-12-17 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hardest thing i've attempted to shade in a while

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:06:55 2017 No.3230666
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>>3230611
The sword shouldn't be able to penetrate armour like that, but to sell that a bit more, I'd maybe actually show how thick the metal is?
I don't want to sound mean, but there is a lot that's not working right with this piece. I wouldn't use pure blacks, I'd raise the saturation on them shadows and push for some warmth on them if the highlights and bounce lights are colder.

The gauntlet looks like it needs to be articulated more and not one solid lump of metal as it's being implied right now. I can't really tell what sort of material the guy's wearing, f it's made of metal or leather or whatever. The tears are a bit too obvious of a touch imo personally.You do have potential though, so keep going and do more direct studies at this stage.

>>3230602
I know what you mean. I'm trying to practise rendering out materials with this character I designed a while back. Perhaps I could put a background in, but I don't want to spend too much time on him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:14:43 2017 No.3230676 >>3230657 hellacool, his tooth and the part where his tail connects to the body look off

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:21:38 2017 No.3230686 >>3230666 Good points, Satan. And rest assured: despite your digits, you don't really sound mean. I have seen lots of mean people, and you're talking like a respectful fellow artist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:26:08 2017 No.3230693 File: 76 KB, 430x572, cliilm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i know i should go out of my comfort zone more often but for now any crits before i run color?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:33:26 2017 No.3230697 >>3230693 Her face is a bit wide and her eyes are quite far apart, unless that's what you're intentionally doing. Ear is a lil high I think.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:01:06 2017 No.3230755 File: 1.50 MB, 2592x1936, IMG_2713[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tell me what you think. I had a little trouble with the arm and still think it's a tad small. What do? Fun Fact: For the robe I referenced the MDE Utopia video.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:02:17 2017 No.3230756 >>3230755 And I fucked the resizing/orientation. My apologies.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:12:27 2017 No.3230764
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>>3230697
thanks dude! really appreciated

>>3230615
theres some more i wanted to work on esp the hair and i used an ugly brush but here's some stuff. overall i think you really need to zoom out more often cause you've got all these lil tiny strokes that mess up the values across the face and the hair. use bigger brush sizes and mirror the image, too

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:12:43 2017 No.3230766 File: 406 KB, 1000x1211, IMG_2715.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Blatant furry here. Critique please. >Fun Fact: The robe was referenced from the MDE Utopia video.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:21:45 2017 No.3230768 >>3230766 can't help much with the furry bit sorry, but the arm/tricep area that's showing should be a helluva lot longer. the head and neck also seem pretty huge but human standards. hope that helps

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:24:42 2017 No.3230770 >>3230766 Elbow needs to be bigger if it's foreshortened, it just looks like the character has a tiny arm.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:25:17 2017 No.3230771 >>3230295 >>3230458 >>3230511 >>3230565 >>3230571 >>3230575 >>3230615 >>3230657 >>3230693 >>3230766 post in the correct thread >>3229780 >>3229780 >>3229780 >>3229780

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:27:13 2017 No.3230774 >>3230771 That's not very nice

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:27:47 2017 No.3230775 >>3230771 Post work

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:30:27 2017 No.3230777 >>3230569 I want to die...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:30:42 2017 No.3230779 >>3230771 i apologize mr. sargent! i loved your exhibition at the met!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:34:06 2017 No.3230780 >>3230777 why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:37:06 2017 No.3230784 File: 72 KB, 330x381, smoko.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3230775 you think im saying what i said to rustle you? im saying it to help you. post in the correct thread for a better response.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:41:47 2017 No.3230789 File: 24 KB, 592x350, 14024068999626.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3230784 Oh. My apologies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:42:01 2017 No.3230790 File: 633 KB, 833x1000, fprthechan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I probably should have just posted it with a blank background, I definitely got lazy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:46:36 2017 No.3230791 >>3230784 >thinking there are good responses in /beg/ That place is a shithole through and through

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:52:55 2017 No.3230798

>>3230295
>>3230569
>>3230657
>>3230575
I don't think these people belong as beginners that's for sure. You know damn well they can clearly understand at least enough of the basics to rise above a person who just started. Does everybody in a drawing thread has to be some 30 year veteran?

>>3230771

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:56:52 2017 No.3230803 >>3230784 >better response >/beg/ I visited there without even posting for a few weeks and it was mostly dogshit. Even objectively bad beginner artwork in this thread will get better advice here than over there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:57:33 2017 No.3230804 >>3230798 never said >>3230569 needed to post there.. as for>>3230657 >>3230666 dont be fooled by the shitty rendering. these are beg tier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:59:39 2017 No.3230809 >>3230803 yet all the advice given to beginners in this thread consists of the OP post from the BEG thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 21:02:35 2017 No.3230812 >>3230804 Or you could critique my lion instead of being useless yourself by referring people to a less helpful thread that just refers people back to this one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 21:07:37 2017 No.3230816 People in beg dont need crit. They need to turn off the computer and grind for a few months then perhaps they can think about posting.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 21:08:01 2017 No.3230819

>>3230804
Ah it's cause that one person replied with "I want to die," so I just lumped it into my confusion

>>3230812
Also this is not me lol. Still even though I did defend your piece. I would suggest that you go back over it with some smaller brushes and more values past the head, (or however you plan on doing it.) It is just a little blurry and comes off as unfinished. I think the head looks good but it is no lion that's a Sabre-tooth Tiger

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 21:11:36 2017 No.3230822 >>3230819 Thanks. Now I understand. It does have saber teeth, although the body I based roughly on what I remembered of African lion anatomy. Just bulkier

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 21:16:13 2017 No.3230827

>>3230822
Yeah I mean given its a creature not alive on this earth I think that is forgivable. I also suggest making the 4th leg visible? not sure if you forgot or if it was with intent. Study how felines walk though, I find it most important when drawing its anatomy. They don't really use the two back legs simultaneously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 21:19:08 2017 No.3230830 >>3230827 I didn't add the back leg because I was lazy. I'll add it on the edit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 21:25:59 2017 No.3230838 File: 1.29 MB, 1536x864, low_res.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I really liked my initial idea for this, but not at all that happy with it at the moment. Anyone got some good tips for the water?

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 21:40:41 2017 No.3230868

>>3230838
Try making the dur bigger.
Repaint the water to reflect more sky, should be quite dark, just looks like a field or sludge.

If you want to keep some of that aqua colour, have it glowing subtly from the depths or just reflecting off the dur a bit.

Last, try to do something to increase the sense of depth of space/distance. rn, the water also looks like a wall. Try playing with the little islands (make very tiny dim ones as you go further back) and some horizontal colour fields, waves and wavelets, etc whatever.. to get a sense of large distance going to the horizon

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 21:46:23 2017 No.3230881 >>3230868 Awesome, thanks for the feedback! Back to the drawing board!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:01:47 2017 No.3230890 File: 1.24 MB, 1242x2208, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I need to know how to be cleaner with my line art.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:05:11 2017 No.3230894 >>3230881 I like how back to the drawing board means starting from scratch.. unless you're actually drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:07:28 2017 No.3230898 >>3230890 Finish the drawing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:30:21 2017 No.3230928 >>3230804 I may be fucking shit and I know I can improve, but I've been doing this for fucking 5 years, it feels a bit belittling that I'm getting told to go to the BEG thread again.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:31:54 2017 No.3230932
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>>3230898
Yes, because I can not construct a body from my mind and I have a poor visual library. I can do better if I use reference but I will leave it like that. I’m learning too much at the same time and that is a fun drawing.

I’m studying vilppu

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:35:12 2017 No.3230934
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Okay I tried to apply the suggested changes but i'm worried i'm getting too close to over-rendered fur, like the old habits I was trying to break. I do think it looks better now though.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:43:09 2017 No.3230944
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>>3230934

In my opinion it looks over rendered, just the fur, also some edges are blurry. I don’t know if that is intentional. But I like it. Haha look for Aeron Blaise art it may help you.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:46:44 2017 No.3230950

>>3230944
I do follow Aaron Blaise; although in terms of rendering I really prefer Therese Larsson; hers is stunning. If I were trying to passively steal knowledge of rendering from anyone right now it would be her. Although she goes REALLY into detail on the fur. I'm struggling to find a balance with detail lately.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:51:25 2017 No.3230957 >>3230950 Oh I did know. I will look for her in google.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:52:51 2017 No.3230959 >>3230957 I didn’t know! I mean

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:55:54 2017 No.3230966
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I was testing a couple brushes because I recently started getting obsessed with painterly styles instead of the digital look. And I don't think I'm particularly succeeding, but that's not why I'm here. I'm posting because I got a reminder that I fucking suck at necks, can somebody please tell/show me how to be less retarded? what am I doing so horribly wrong?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:57:29 2017 No.3230968 >>3230966 Sorry i'm not helping, but I wanted to say that texturing is delicious

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 23:00:46 2017 No.3230977 >>3230968 Dude really? thank you! it's legit my second try at it, and only because my first was some generic sphere 2 hours ago. I've been avoiding texture for the longest time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 23:07:44 2017 No.3230984 >>3230966 Anon I like it. We have the same friking goal. It looks like you are getting there. Just clean your edges.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 23:24:25 2017 No.3231002 File: 1.45 MB, 1000x1427, IMG_2729.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3230766 >>3230768 >>3230770 Is this better? I'm afraid I made the brachioradialis too small.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 23:39:37 2017 No.3231017 >>3230780 it's just too good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 23:45:58 2017 No.3231018 File: 132 KB, 470x575, IMG_20170930_224510 (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried inking and color for the first time. I know my backgrounds suck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 23:47:11 2017 No.3231019 >>3231018 and I did flip the picture too

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 23:53:45 2017 No.3231023 File: 555 KB, 788x595, fair trade.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Political cartoon

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 23:56:26 2017 No.3231024 File: 648 KB, 1545x2000, yellow ship.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying to improve my rendering

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 00:14:45 2017 No.3231039 File: 130 KB, 521x612, 12.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3230569

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 00:16:35 2017 No.3231041 File: 763 KB, 1136x852, mecha_wip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First mecha ever. How is it going?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 00:18:24 2017 No.3231045 >>3231039 looks super great! how did you got that good?!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 00:20:00 2017 No.3231047 >>3231039 got a blog anon? i love your style, it reminds me of early mujiha

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 00:53:52 2017 No.3231080 File: 210 KB, 750x1000, xfgnzdtgn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3230615

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 00:59:43 2017 No.3231087 >>3231080 it looks like he was looking down on me and the first thing I see waking up from being passed out i need a man like this cry cry

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 01:02:04 2017 No.3231090 >>3231080 can you pls draw more aesthetic men with romantic expressions to help me cope with my loneliness? Thanks. you should try tapping into that market, if you haven't already

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 01:11:29 2017 No.3231103 File: 116 KB, 1000x591, Baby Rock Lion 10-12-17.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] doodled another cartoonier rock lion, came out looking like a lion king character a bit

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 01:40:42 2017 No.3231117
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>>3230771
oh okay, thanks senpai, i'll head straight over to the beginner thread. my apologies for thinking i was worthy enough to post in your thread. i think i have a bit of that dunning kruger effect going on - thought i was a tad beyond beginner

anyways, this is what i have so far.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 01:46:06 2017 No.3231121 >>3230764 >>3231080 thanks for the critiques my dudes >>3231117 is where i'm at so far

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 02:04:44 2017 No.3231131

>>3231117
Not the anon who sent you to /beg/, but he has a point. You do have some dunning kruger if you think you're beyond beginner. Either that or you just bought a tablet 2 weeks ago and decided to draw one ugly son of a bitch, in that case you're golden. But keep practicing, and try to justify the majority of the choices you make, if you can't justify one then look that thing up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 02:25:48 2017 No.3231144 >>3231080 giv sad bf ;;

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 03:11:09 2017 No.3231171 File: 257 KB, 1350x1800, pf2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't know a lot about landscapes. I tried my best doing this. I hope my brushwork does not look mindless. If you think there is some issues that can be fixed, tell me anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 03:19:55 2017 No.3231175 >>3231171 Maybe make your images proportions in.. hmmm.. I dunno landscape instead of portrait.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 03:24:49 2017 No.3231179 >>3231175 So the canvas size make you feel uncomfortable? It shouldn’t It may be the composition. I failed... I’m gonna review. Lol

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 04:14:31 2017 No.3231205

>>3231131
>Either that or you just bought a tablet 2 weeks ago and decided to draw one ugly son of a bitch

are you referring to >>3230615 or >>3231117

if you're referring to >>3230615
fair enough, that shit was ugly

if you're referring to >>3231117
could you be more specific as to what makes it an ugly son of a bitch?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 07:05:23 2017 No.3231306 File: 183 KB, 720x540, meth_wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3231041 kinda finished the inked version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 08:48:10 2017 No.3231378 File: 1.26 MB, 4160x3120, IMG_20171210_154643.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] From an anatomy atlas

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 09:49:28 2017 No.3231459 File: 627 KB, 452x700, hermit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've been messing with DIY textures and general scanning tricks. It can look pretty insteresting...

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 11:01:04 2017 No.3231521

>>3231024
I really like this, it is coming a long super nice just be careful on some of the edges. I dunno if theres like too much white or what but it gives me this over sharp line thing going on in my mind. Like I turned off the anti-alias or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 13:05:23 2017 No.3231605 File: 374 KB, 636x1000, reign of the last king.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3230458 bit of progress

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 15:23:35 2017 No.3231717 >>3231521 Thanks so much! I was actually worried my lines weren't coming out sharp enough. Where do they look to sharp for you? Like, on the fins?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 15:36:18 2017 No.3231723 >>3231024 >>3231605 lookin gud m80s >>3231459 This is also cool, got a nice simple graphic design aesthetic to it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 15:44:12 2017 No.3231734 File: 49 KB, 500x667, 9fd700733c8662864bcba9ea6c6c795a--anime-boys-manga-anime.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3231605 Is there a story to this or is it just about monarchic fashion?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 15:48:07 2017 No.3231738 File: 244 KB, 1200x864, faces1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] eh

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 16:14:29 2017 No.3231760

>>3231717
I'd say the side fin/stub thing to the bottom half of the bottom is where I noticed it more. Yet since the image is fairly large when I open it up in the browser I am looking fairly close up at it. I definitely wouldn't say it is distracting or anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 16:15:31 2017 No.3231761 >>3231760 Wow I mean't to say bottom half of the capsule/cockpit not bottom twice..

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 16:44:34 2017 No.3231778 >>3231738 Good job on forming the heads. probably want to continue on working with the hair.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 16:45:17 2017 No.3231780 File: 355 KB, 478x571, D.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Way far from done but if anything looks off right now I'd like to know. Some things to add are value contrasts as well as colors and some accessories.

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 16:53:07 2017 No.3231786

>>3231780

Looking pretty good. You might want to look into some muscle reference for the torso though before adding a lot of detail/accessories. Is he supposed to be wearing some kind of armor or is the suit showing his underlying muscle definition? If it's the latter you definitely need to work on the muscle anatomy...

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 16:56:27 2017 No.3231788

>>3231734
when i was creating the sketch for it, I got subconscious inspiration from a bunch of different sources, but most obvious came from the story of Aragorn's death and how the kingdom devolved into petty squabbles between men in the fourth age - hence the name of the painting: Reign of the Last King, or maybe, last true king.

Anyway, when I think about this piece, I can't seem to make up my mind whether I want it to be about an old monarch in his last moments, or if I want it to be something more ominous. Perhaps he was assassinated and succumbed to poison? Maybe it makes you wonder about his life story, what events transpired during his rule, what he was like as a person, etc.
His colorful outfit contrasts with the desaturated background, which reminds me of a painting I saw. I can't remember the name but it's a still life of a specific type of flower that shed their petals right as they become most 'ripe', and the painting depicts those flowers at the moment just before that happens.

This piece is meant to invoke these kinds of themes. Notice also how the pose is very uncharacteristic of royal portraits. Where kings usually appear magnificent and big, this guy looks kinda like your grandpa's fallen asleep in his favorite rocking chair. I think that provides an interesting contrast that I personally haven't seen before, if only most vaguely in Stańczyk, but that's an entirely different context.

If you want a less obscure explanation, you could say I felt kinda low, and I channeled that loneliness and energy into this piece. It depicts what I felt like when I initiated the painting. I'll post it again once it's finished.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 16:59:04 2017 No.3231791 >>3231786 It's a tight one, don't worry I knew about that already (and the hat/shoulder). Still messing around a bit. Will make sure to correct it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 17:00:46 2017 No.3231792 >>3231780 if wei feng inspires you that much, just make a master study of one of his pieces.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 17:03:43 2017 No.3231795 >>3231792 I've done several!! Including Guangjian's pieces, their colors are just waaaay too stunning

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 17:16:04 2017 No.3231805
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>>3231791

Aight! Btw. there's an gym exercise called "landmines" that often results in similar poses as your character. Definitely not saying that you couldn't do it without reference. Just thought it might be helpful.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 17:41:58 2017 No.3231836 File: 381 KB, 474x569, Dwip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3231805 Hey thanks, and it's all good everyone needs a reference once in a while.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:51:22 2017 No.3232016 File: 154 KB, 1000x591, Baby Rock Lion 11-12-17.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I made an attempt of putting more detail on the middle and less on the outside or in shadow areas. Also some edge variation. I do enjoy this creature.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:09:16 2017 No.3232033 File: 306 KB, 1366x768, composition_wip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Critique plz

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:11:49 2017 No.3232036 >>3232033 Great values. Work on refinement now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:14:00 2017 No.3232038 >>3232036 How do I refine correctly? Up until now I select stuff with the magic wand a lot to select certain areas, there must be a better way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:16:11 2017 No.3232040 >>3232038 I would call the way you do it unusual. Use the brush tool and soften/blend those hard edges.

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:25:17 2017 No.3232049

>>3232040

This^

>>3232038

I'd add that you might want to work with a hard brush with 100% opacity for as long as possible. Only start using the opacity or flow/softness when you have the overall image done. I don't even think you'd have to use the a soft brush in this one at all though...

Try to align your strokes so they either go to the direction of the surface of the object you're painting or towards the vanishing point. Focus on the whole image first and refine the area of focus where you want the viewer to looks with really sharp details at the very end. It's a good idea to have most of the detail in areas where the light is hitting and very little-no detail on the areas with shadows.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 22:07:45 2017 No.3232072 >>3232036 >>3232040 >>3232049 I see. Thanks!

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 00:57:04 2017 No.3232186

>>3232033
The pen feels a bit off, almost as if its perspective is far more exaggerated compared to the monitor/rest of the objects. Also, there's nothing actually on the desk as a point of interest.
>>3232038
Try using layers so you don't have to select individual areas all the time, you can just draw on them. If you're worried about shit bleeding over the edges, make a selection, then use layer masks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 01:15:25 2017 No.3232198 File: 96 KB, 800x884, Characters 7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Today I made a fishie

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 01:19:03 2017 No.3232199 >>3232186 >>3232038 Or what you could do that I use A LOT is carefully fill in an area with a block of color and then simply lock the pixels in the layer. That way you can focus on values and color without muddling up your edges.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:11:35 2017 No.3232266 reposting a correctly oriented version, my final piece for class. WIP, and I'm new to brush pens, so any feedback/tips would be great!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:35:05 2017 No.3232272 File: 1.59 MB, 2448x3264, 1512977574238.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3232266 and forgot to include the file cause apparently I'm retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:38:14 2017 No.3232274 >>3232272 Perspective of the shadow compared to both the light source and the perspective of the wall it's on are messed up.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:40:29 2017 No.3232276

>>3232198
Lovely fishy.
Just the inside of the mouth is a bit confusing for me with the hard lines. I'm guessing the hard lines are meant to indicate the corners inside the jaw?

It's not like I am fixated on the idea of inserting my penis in it's mouth where I expect the texture to be more soft and fleshy or anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 04:31:49 2017 No.3232304 File: 1.64 MB, 1000x1083, sketchess.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 05:15:02 2017 No.3232320 >>3232304 I like it Are this from reference or imagination? Anyways I like it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 05:18:30 2017 No.3232322 >>3232304 the digital "enhancement" was totally unnecessary

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 05:55:51 2017 No.3232337 File: 624 KB, 900x1051, blueforest.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] practice from tonight and a small spit painting

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 07:19:55 2017 No.3232364 File: 845 KB, 1280x720, filmstillstudy1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 07:33:18 2017 No.3232371 >>3232364 jesus. ur edges honey. are you using fucking dissolve mode to paint or just 4x4 pixels.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 07:39:04 2017 No.3232372 File: 448 KB, 746x745, night study.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] practicing

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 07:39:25 2017 No.3232373 >>3232371 pencil

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 07:40:28 2017 No.3232374 >>3232371 wanted to try out

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 10:28:09 2017 No.3232450

>>3230790
delete this ugly piece of shit, I am literally offended by someone thinking this deserves the attention of others who are genuine about art.
Pls save this and if you ever manage to get halfway good at art then look back at this "art" of yours.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 11:56:05 2017 No.3232509 File: 390 KB, 1100x526, Dojo WIP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Commission work, going to finish this tomorrow

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 12:18:43 2017 No.3232525 >>3232450 What's so terrible about it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 12:27:50 2017 No.3232528 >>3232509 Clean af my man, it looks like you have experience and confidence. I don't know if you'll draw something over that, but as background art it looks amazing.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 12:29:54 2017 No.3232531

>>3232525
not him but chickenscratch shading, chickenscratch lines, pose is all the way backwards and off balance, buildings in background are basically symbols and odd donut lumps thrown around to the point where it looks like a toy block set, gargoyle is pillow shaded everywhere with random bright highlights that make no sense, no drop shadows anywhere, etc

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 12:37:06 2017 No.3232535
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>>3232450
>>3232531
Cool, well I appreciate the response. I kind of knew I wasn't ready to be posting on here but I dunno sometimes the response I get from normies builds me some false confidence.

Anyway here is the pose I used if you just wanna compare and contrast and I'm gonna stop replying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 13:16:37 2017 No.3232562 >>3232509 great execution and atmosphere, somewhat boring design choices which I assume come from the commisioner. Keep up the good work bruh

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 13:24:30 2017 No.3232570
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Screenshot this from my IG to share with y'all! I am trying to build a portfolio so that I can apply for a tattoo apprenticeship. IDK! I feel like maybe the nose is too tiny but???

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 13:25:33 2017 No.3232572 >>3232570 SHIT!!! I posted it too big!! I'm really sorry y'all!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 14:29:53 2017 No.3232618 >>3231306 looks real nice

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 14:31:23 2017 No.3232621 File: 312 KB, 531x1000, antorcha 01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't even know what I'm doing

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 14:32:50 2017 No.3232623 >>3232198 awesome

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 14:36:16 2017 No.3232626

>>3232528
Thanks! Yeah, I do this for a living, environment art is my main domain. Currently trying to get into other subject matter, tough, since I want to be a fullblown illustrator.

>>3232562
Thanks! It's not finished yet, there will be a wooden man in the back and a punching bag up close to make it more dynamic.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 15:49:22 2017 No.3232687

>>3232535
Why dont you just study the guy instead? It is obvious that you were trying to hide your lack of capability by drawing an ugly thing.
You learned nothing from your piece other than that it sucks, you didnt study the reference at all, you just drew random bullshit that you thought was good that way, your shading is the most offensive thing to me.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 20:36:18 2017 No.3232988
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At my current skill level, hard to gauge, output is highly inconsistent, should I be focusing more on studying new material or getting mileage with the knowledge I have?
https://drawing.today/profile/211

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 22:20:53 2017 No.3233108 File: 130 KB, 1000x484, house1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sketching some houses to get used to drawing them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 22:26:10 2017 No.3233118 >>3232535 Don't know why you're getting such extreme responses from these guys. Take what you can from their "advice" but don't get too disheartened man, they're just being assholes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 22:28:49 2017 No.3233126 >>3232276 >(You This fishy is made of wood and metal. You would not want to put your pen0r in it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 23:42:41 2017 No.3233183 >>3232621 love the proportions but his skin tone is a little simpsons-y

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 23:50:13 2017 No.3233188

>>3233118
Ah I know, I appreciate it though. Still it isn't my first time on 4chan so I know some people have to project personal issues onto others and they have to take it out on people online. I don't take anything to heart cause clearly, I was trying to hide my lack of capability by drawing an ugly thing, hahaha.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 01:09:49 2017 No.3233246 File: 770 KB, 730x808, 55st.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] study

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 01:17:06 2017 No.3233250 >>3233118 I think it's because there's literally nothing appealing about it in any fashion and at that, the way he drew it almost comes off like he thinks it's really good which will inevitably draw extra harshness

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 01:18:19 2017 No.3233252 >>3233108 I'm more interested in your numbering, is that morse code or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:10:24 2017 No.3233297 File: 218 KB, 744x1074, poster_child_and_fire_nymph_by_pastelchu-dbwhdwb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:21:32 2017 No.3233300
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>>3233246
i think the jaw on a woman should be softened. i feel that the definition here is too sharp, making it look unnatural. a lot of contrast under the ear. just comes off weird. more often than not you wont see a defined line at the jaw at all.

pic related, skinny woman with a very sharp jaw, still you can see it looks soft.

but its pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:55:50 2017 No.3233328 File: 292 KB, 1366x768, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not finished but I upload anyways.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 03:14:46 2017 No.3233346 >>3233252 >>3233108 not them, but looks like size variation for the garage, the main building and the annex. Lovely work!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 03:58:19 2017 No.3233376 >>3232198 Beautiful line work and I love the colors. The perspective inside his mouth is kind of messy though. Might want to fix that. GJ anyways.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 04:24:23 2017 No.3233389

>>3230771
Fuck off you pretentious asshole.

You know fairly well most of the people listed are neither just starting out, nor will they get decent feedback in /beg/
They need to move on to this thread for decent critique. Could it be you're salty that you were told off to /beg/ in the past?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 04:25:57 2017 No.3233392 >>3233108 what's the full resolution on this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 04:26:53 2017 No.3233393 File: 219 KB, 833x1000, hooded dude resized.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Been getting into Anthony Jones' work lately

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 05:10:03 2017 No.3233425 File: 604 KB, 710x900, speedpaint8.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 06:04:39 2017 No.3233446 File: 139 KB, 1000x717, house1-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3233346 ty. Also yes, they are size variations for the house segments. >>3233392 4k x 2k

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 07:11:53 2017 No.3233470

>>3233446
I don't know but the perspective gets throwing me off in numerous ways. It looks like you stitched the design together with different houses and styles and it feels like it not quite coming together.
Also, window and door size don't fit each other and the close front of the house looks very inconsistent with the rest

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 07:47:12 2017 No.3233491 File: 537 KB, 1150x695, Unbenannt-1kk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this any good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 09:11:20 2017 No.3233535 File: 87 KB, 900x699, MovieScene1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A WIP of a movie scene from a trailer, bonus points for those who guess it right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 09:32:35 2017 No.3233543 File: 2.84 MB, 2620x3087, IMG_20171206_000313_731.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://youtu.be/nJxYrBPLgbw

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 09:35:31 2017 No.3233545 >>3233393 >those clear round brush strokes overlapping amateurishly yikes learn how to paint bud

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 09:36:59 2017 No.3233547 >>3232988 learn how to paint

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 09:54:03 2017 No.3233553 File: 32 KB, 450x410, 1401958664610.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3233545 >>3233547

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 11:09:32 2017 No.3233589 >>3231738 draw on bigger paper or use a finer pencil. features aren't quite there yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 11:12:15 2017 No.3233591 >>3232988 both. always.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 11:13:00 2017 No.3233593 >>3233491 The colors are nice, but it doesn't read as anything. There isn't enough shape detail in the right places to tell us what we are looking at so at a distance it's just a mass of light and dark blah

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 13:05:14 2017 No.3233693 File: 383 KB, 1000x478, Dojo Resize.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Done with this

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 13:14:48 2017 No.3233701 >>3233535 Christoph Waltz in the Alita trailer

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 13:54:48 2017 No.3233734 >>3233701 Good job, you win.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:07:04 2017 No.3233746

>>3233693
My only complain is the bag's shadow. It's directly underneath, but the two light sources you have are in front and behind it., so it looks weird. Maybe extend a shadow towards the camera/following your perspective and another one to the left? keeping them soft of course, especially the latter one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:16:54 2017 No.3233749 File: 428 KB, 868x1240, 121217.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i think i fucked this up but i looked at it for too long gotta study face planes more

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:33:31 2017 No.3233760 >>3231024 Nice colors. Who are your influences?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 15:17:45 2017 No.3233786 >>3233749 same guy that did that bronn study?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:03:46 2017 No.3233841 File: 42 KB, 612x690, tumblr_p0pg0ebBeK1ra91zio1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3233786 no, not sure who you mean here's the ref I forget who it is but someone I follow on tumblr hehe

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:06:22 2017 No.3233845 >>3233491 Nice rocks and river.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:31:01 2017 No.3233873 >>3233250 >the way he drew it almost comes off like he thinks it's really good What does that even mean?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:38:02 2017 No.3233877 >>3233841 kek is that james zapata

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:51:30 2017 No.3233889 >>3233491 Is this digital or traditional?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:53:08 2017 No.3233892 >>3233393 just clean the edges bro. it can work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:54:14 2017 No.3233893 File: 557 KB, 1296x1626, Black maiden.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Final hands and drapery akward I know. I will study more and do better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:19:23 2017 No.3233916 >>3233893 If this is what you think a 'finished' piece of work looks like, you need to understand that this just comes across as a WIP sketch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:00:45 2017 No.3233972 >>3233760 Thanks! For this particular one I was thinking mostly of Syd Mead and Sparth. In general though my biggest influences are probably Moebius and Wayne Barlowe

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:07:30 2017 No.3233978

>>3233916
I know.
Do you think I have the skill to do better?
I won't work on it anymore because I need to study more. Hands and folds.

If I want to go further on this work I need hands and folds as priorities. I never said "Hey Look this is a final illustration from me! a pro!" lol

come on man I'm beg. I will study more. but I enjoyed working on this because I feel I'm learning.

Do you think I used reference doing this? I didn't. It was hard.

My next painting will be better I will show you.

Thank you for the motivation. anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:35:40 2017 No.3233995 >>3233978 >Do you think I used reference doing this? I didn't. It was hard. If you used ref you would've learn A LOT more than just wasting time guessing how things would look like.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:49:37 2017 No.3234006

>>3233995

I didn’t use reference because I want to show my self what I’m lacking. Anyways you don’t need a reference to make a generic face like mine. After see what is wrong I study the worse subject in the painting (hands and folds). I want learn first. I used references In others pieces. But not this one.

Some goals where accomplished and some no.

Is not A waste of time, I think, this is how I learn. I won’t sell this, it won’t be in a poster, a movie or something lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:55:28 2017 No.3234053 >>3234006 ok so this is as far as you can push it on your own, fair enough. Do a couple studies, yeah ok, but then go back to it and push it further with your new found knowledge. It will solidify what you learned doing the studies

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 21:07:22 2017 No.3234113 >>3233877 oh yep you're right

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 21:29:37 2017 No.3234130 >>3233393 terrible values

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 21:56:56 2017 No.3234158

>>3230458
boring mess

>>3230615
lmao, very ugly proportions and no planes. go study some heads and planes.

>>3230657
too blurry brushwork and anatomy mistakes, its not looking good at all.

>>3230890
>>3230932
Honestly, whats the point of posting such a thing?

>>3231024
this is terrible, it looks like popsicle, go read some Robertson.

>>3231171
perspective is wrong.

>>3231378
go to beg. Keep drawing tho.

>>3231459
Looks promising, dig it anon.

>>3231738
learn proportions and planes of head.

>>3231780
muddy mess.

>>3232033
This values are off so much, its pretty funny that other anon said its good. Showing how many bad artists are here.

>>3232198
Very nice anon, you can exaggerate flow a little bit.

>>3232304
keep it up.

>>3232337
adding gradient is not how you should practice ''light''.

>>3232372
perspective and anatomy is off.

>>3232509
beautiful, good job!

>>3232570
Nice tiger anon, i really like it.

>>3232621
Looks promising.

>>3232988
boring. go take a picture or something.

>>3233246
This is best piece in the thread for now, are you a pro anon?

>>3233328
learn how to draw humans, some value study would be good too.

>>3233393
Why light is hitting surface that should be in shadow?

>>3233491
meme painting

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 22:01:46 2017 No.3234163 >>3234158 >meme painting i wish i could get back the minute i spent reading this whole post

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 22:46:23 2017 No.3234198

>>3233873
I don't really know, it's just that when I saw it I immediately thought the person who made it thought they were making something objectively good. The overly scratchy lines are something that you can get away with if you know what you're doing but the way he did it looked awful. ... Again I dunno, I'm just giving my two cents as to why it's getting flack.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 22:46:56 2017 No.3234199

>>3234158
Imagine spending hours on a painting, nervously second guessing yourself as you finally decide to post it into the draw thread and then you wait...one hour passes. Two then three, still no (You)s. you go to bed beating yourself up that night, "what did I do wrong?" "Was it really that bad?" "Maybe I shouldn't have posted it..." The next day you wake up and begrudgingly check the thread, your eyes scan the page as you slowly scroll to your post. Then you see it. A (YOU), you finally got a (YOU)! A million different thoughts race through your head, maybe it's a redline, maybe it's an insightful critique, maybe a compliment or a request for your blog, the possibilities are endless. In a neurotic haze of excitement you move your cursor over to the reply and finally click on it, your years of art training may yet bare fruit. Then you read the post and are greeted by a faggot saying "meme painting."

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 23:12:31 2017 No.3234210 >>3230565 This is really cool >>3231306 That's one fancy looking drink

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 23:28:01 2017 No.3234217

>>3234199
>is so butthurt by two little words.

I'm not even the anon who wrote that but this post of yours is borderline cringe. This is 4chan, this is the internet, if your art sucks, people will say so, if your art's amazing, people will say so because those are the things people like to talk about. Nobody likes to talk about anything in between. Chances are if you're not getting much response your work lies somewhere in that big grey area and you should take the silence as just that.

If you're put off by a lack of responses or completely diminished by a negative one then I'm sorry but you aren't going to get to where you want to be as an artist. Take the criticism or lack there of and consider what it means and try to improve. That's all you can do.

In the case of "meme painting" I'm not even sure what it means but I can take a gander: It looks like an attempt at a specific style of painting but it utterly falls short because, like I replied to it yesterday or whatever, the colors are nice but it lacks any form or substance. It looks like whoever painted it knows how to work colors and knows how to effectively stroke a brush across a canvas and that person thought that would be enough to create those sorts of effortlessly beautiful painterly images. Unfortunately, however, the lack of effort is painfully evident.

is that enough (you)?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 23:36:23 2017 No.3234229 File: 67 KB, 1191x948, reddits_favorite_word.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3234217 >your long whiny post is cringe (mine somehow isn't) >this is 4chan No, (You) are reddit. Also not him, tl;dr my dude :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 23:50:39 2017 No.3234241 >>3234229 ... ok? Christ some of you on this board are so weird

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 00:06:06 2017 No.3234262 >>3234241 >cringey >weird Pls fuck off normie

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 00:34:20 2017 No.3234273 File: 785 KB, 2448x3264, 25397817_1665666963455076_1222018544_o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] trying to get better at rendering, any pointers would be great. Done with Conte crayons, in about an hour and a half

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 00:58:57 2017 No.3234287
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I just started on a sketch. I like to work in black and white. I wanted to do something with a lot of hands, but I can't even remember what I was imagining when I was doing this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:11:11 2017 No.3234324 >>3232337 There was no gradient applied but alright. I'll work on that lighting more

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 08:29:23 2017 No.3234562

>>3234273
Post more of these. It's great that you're comfortable making the expression so arched, it looks like ancient/cartoonish sculpture because you've exaggerated the centrality of her facial features. Her cheekbone stands out as a great detail. Eyebrows appear excessively thin or watery.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 08:46:04 2017 No.3234569 Maybe the brows do look better painted. Very particular style.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 08:56:49 2017 No.3234579 >>3233389 should you not be in /beg/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 08:58:47 2017 No.3234581 >>3234163 it took you a minute to read that? are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 09:40:03 2017 No.3234614 File: 312 KB, 656x1000, 094.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 10:22:05 2017 No.3234644 >>3233889 Digital. >>3234217 It was a mere color study my dude :^) But it indeed looks to messy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 12:43:19 2017 No.3234748 >>3234199 Literally Brian's life

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 12:50:52 2017 No.3234755

I'm looking for a bit of advice at the moment (sorry I can't include any of my stuff in this post; I can't find my printer/scanner for the life of me and all my stuff is traditional)
So I'm a beginner; learning to draw different body types at the moment (thin, stocky, fat ect.). Would I be better off focusing on one body type at a time and developing on that one thing before moving onto a different body? Or should I go with whatever type I feel like at the time? Because if I'm doing something I don't feel like at the time am I really getting the most out of it?

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 13:11:13 2017 No.3234774

>>3234755
I think you just have to do whatever feels right, whatever catches your eye, if you do this long enough you'll see there's not really any one way a person can look that gets you interested, but at the same time as hard as it is you should try to find what you like no matter how impossible it seems. Also I'm a girl and I'm subliminally talking to you about relationships so just ignore me

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 13:29:30 2017 No.3234795 File: 572 KB, 1000x981, untitled abstract 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sufficiently obfuscated

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 13:31:47 2017 No.3234800 >>3234287 tongue is sophomoric

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 14:22:37 2017 No.3234843 >>3234579 Post your work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 14:49:10 2017 No.3234887 File: 1.28 MB, 1500x1500, KKK1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 2h hand study. Testing out some new brushes and shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 15:47:57 2017 No.3234959 File: 49 KB, 351x938, image_6483441.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] first ever art from a live model

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 16:00:40 2017 No.3234969 >>3234959 kinda looks like she's wearing skin pants or something. Do some more leg studies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 17:27:26 2017 No.3235078 >>3234887 Cool, I’m studying hands too. Do you practice from life? To get better with values?

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 17:39:32 2017 No.3235090

Anyone ever have one of those days, you sit down and get ready to do another day's worth of drawing, and think "I don't know what the fuck I'm doing" and "I have no idea where to go from here to improve"? I am by no means good, but today this happened to me. I feel like I need a book, some sort of guidance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 17:49:11 2017 No.3235105 >>3235078 Not really. I'm terrible at values. I usually have too much contrast that's why I'm doing value studies. You got any of dem hand studies to show yourself?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 18:58:46 2017 No.3235179 File: 380 KB, 1000x593, landscapes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] quick something

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 19:08:36 2017 No.3235186 File: 92 KB, 1000x562, 1257768790.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3234217 Stop posting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 19:11:23 2017 No.3235189 >>3234217 lmao @ the people getting triggered by this post

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 19:27:53 2017 No.3235203 >>3234199 Sometimes people don't reply. What's the big deal? If anything it's good you didn't get many replies. 90% of the time a reply on 4chan is someone having a meltdown over whatever you posted.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 19:37:49 2017 No.3235217 File: 1003 KB, 1128x1682, Untitled-2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] which of these 3 look better, composition wise? should i remove the figure entirely? (i'm aware the colours/values are fucked, i'm gonna redo everything)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 20:00:31 2017 No.3235236 >>3235217 You'd have to tell me what the story behind the piece is. Is it an establishing shot? Is it about the dude? Is it a landscape painting? I don't know. I'm sorry but it's pretty much impossible to say anything just by looking at those...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 20:09:59 2017 No.3235239 >>3235236 initially it was meant to resemble a photo taken by some tourists, i just got very carried away with the bg

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 20:22:14 2017 No.3235253
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Any final tips before I merge all the layers and start detailing/un-detailing the piece and putting in sum effects? I'm fucking sick of looking at this piece. Had a hard time figuring out what I'd put in the background... Ehh.

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 20:27:18 2017 No.3235261
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>>3235253

Forgot all my fancy effect layers. Oh well what ever. I just think the composition reads a little better with some stupid highlights on the shark dudes face and shit.

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 20:37:31 2017 No.3235274

>>3235239

Personally, I like the wide shot at the bottom. Is this a study or something? I don't get why you'd put the guy right at the border of that light box thing. It's a completely unnecessary tangent. I'd say get rid of any characters and just try to paint the buildings. Again, it's hard to say anything when we don't know what you're shooting for with this shot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 20:39:09 2017 No.3235275 >>3235261 Fuck, is this 3D? or are you using 3D model as base?

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 20:44:39 2017 No.3235282
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>>3235275

Yep. Sculpted the base for the shark dude in ZBrush. Pic related is the half way composited version of the dude... I hate the look you get form 3d models so I'm probably going to be overpainting even more of the dude when I've merged all the layers. Really want to learn dat ZBrush properly some day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 21:56:01 2017 No.3235365 File: 86 KB, 828x960, art4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3234843

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 22:25:04 2017 No.3235410 >>3235282 no offense but why are you on /ic/ if you don't draw

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 22:29:35 2017 No.3235413 >>3235410 He does draw. He painted on top of it and made it look way better.

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 22:35:58 2017 No.3235417
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>>3235410

"Artwork and Critique", not "Drawing and Drawing". I do draw. Most of the shit I've done till now has just been painting in Photoshop. At lest 80% of the detail on my character, all of his gear, the fishbowl and the bg were all painted.

Most production art in movie/video game posters is based on 3D. The same compositional rules and design stuff need to work in sculptural work as well. Also, are you implying that sculpture is not an art form? It's a digital sculpture. It's not a procedural thing. It was a ball and I made it into a shark dude. Not really different from drawing.

BTW I continued DRAWING the tentacle in the bg...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 22:37:16 2017 No.3235419 >>3230838 Put a boat in that water!- a little reflection of the boat maybe, something to zaas up the water space.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 22:41:48 2017 No.3235424 >>3230838 Thanks for an excellent background,

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 22:47:34 2017 No.3235431 >>3235417 >uses 3d NGMI

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 22:55:21 2017 No.3235436 >>3235431 If you want to work in the industry as a professional concept artist and you don't know how to use 3D, you better be good at sucking dick.

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 23:04:20 2017 No.3235448
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>>3235436
Yes.

>>3235431

I'm not sure if you're trolling or just really, really stupid. Most of the top production/concept artists use 3d in their work. Even if you don't use 3d you're going to have to overpaint somebody else's stuff.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 00:43:56 2017 No.3235532 File: 937 KB, 1272x991, 1384226837598.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3235436 tell that to ruan jia

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 00:49:05 2017 No.3235538 File: 1.25 MB, 1160x659, 92.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3230258

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 00:55:00 2017 No.3235553 File: 339 KB, 960x1280, 1479355554885[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3235532 Tell that to Ruan's dick sucking lips. You think he got to the top by being gud?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 01:02:17 2017 No.3235559 File: 165 KB, 720x960, 5e475b33jw1f0ym97whkbj20k00qo42t.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3235553 he did actually lol, so hard to believe? you jelly bro?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 01:21:18 2017 No.3235569 >>3235559 cmon bro look at those lips, you KNOW he was giving MAD blowies

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 01:31:26 2017 No.3235574 >>3235559 It was a joke lad. The point is though that 99% of working pros aren't Ruan and they all use 3D. He is an exception, not the rule. Also I wouldn't be surprised if he also used 3D for some of his actual concept work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 01:48:35 2017 No.3235592 File: 26 KB, 349x642, db0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3235569 >>3235574

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 02:02:42 2017 No.3235604 >>3235592 That's not how that pic works you retard. You are either genuinely autistic or english is not your first language. That was very clearly a joke.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 02:05:53 2017 No.3235607 >>3235604 you were pretending, i was pretending, thats all there is to it, dont over think it

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 04:03:13 2017 No.3235698 File: 73 KB, 500x500, question harder.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3235436 >tfw work in the concept art industry working on movies >don't use 3d

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 04:20:23 2017 No.3235719
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>>3235448
I was trolling. But regardless you don't NEED to be or do anything but be and do good art. No matter how you make it if you're good you will get whatever jobs are available. 3d or no. I speak from experience. I've over painted stuff plenty of times but it's usually when a shot has already been called out and the models roughly placed in they ask me to make it look like it will in the film. In that regard I'm just a cog in a wheel. It just grinds my gears when people insist there are all these rules to getting into this kind of job or that kind. Most production/concept artists use 3d simply because they aren't fast enough to paint the idea from scratch. That's not to say it would be impossible, it's just they aren't good enough. And that's not to say they're wrong for using 3d they just aren't good enough to go without it. There's a difference between being able to paint well and paint well quickly, it's all trial and error but for those who paint quick there's simply less error and that's where I strive to be.

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 04:54:34 2017 No.3235760

>>3234887
It looks like you're merely copying the values and not the actual form they describe. It looks appealing at first but it falls flat at the arm especially where the edges make it look as if this whole hand was a flat sticker instead of an actual arm

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 07:41:25 2017 No.3235887 File: 617 KB, 1235x720, SH01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Need 2nd opinion for proportions before i move on. Not concerned with line quality since it'll be painted over.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 08:52:41 2017 No.3235928 File: 245 KB, 900x591, bodegon classe 01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally they let me bring my laptop to the atelier wip, but almast finished

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 14:39:23 2017 No.3236223
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Any of you boyos know good artist that draw futuristic spaceships, cars or just general machinery, other than Scott Robertson? I wanna sketch out some more complex ones, cause mine look just too simplistic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 14:40:24 2017 No.3236224 >>3236223 artists*

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 15:25:13 2017 No.3236264 File: 382 KB, 705x1000, senyora tapis 01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3235928 Another wip

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 15:36:05 2017 No.3236278 >>3236264 trump?

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 15:45:03 2017 No.3236290

>>3235719

I really do agree with you then. I've only been messing around with ZBrush for a couple of months now and I feel like it's helping me play around with anatomical proportions with monster characters and shit. This Street Sharks thing was kind of a test for myself. I'm trying to figure out how far I should take my pieces in 3D before starting the over painting process. I think in the future I'll make much cruder sculpts and use them as reference instead of over painting since I feel like I'm having to over paint everything anyway to get a nicer looking end result and I'm having to "fake" edge control since all the detail was there from the start... Sculpting is pretty darn fun tho!

>>3235928

This is looking really nice. The combination of colors is something you'd think wouldn't work but somehow it does. Some strong, graphical silhouettes in all your objects but it's also making everything look a little flat. I don't know if that's what you're going for. It almost looks like one of those Ctrl+Paint tutorials where the guy keeps locking all his layers. Might want to soften some of dem edges. Looking good anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:10:34 2017 No.3236317 File: 314 KB, 768x990, study.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Water color still life, not sure if I should throw a light blueish gray glaze over that book in the reflection (to break up some of that white)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 18:48:09 2017 No.3236460 File: 719 KB, 900x685, somethingsoff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] PAINTING

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 18:51:16 2017 No.3236461 File: 293 KB, 1552x903, griffon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 18:52:36 2017 No.3236463 >>3236460 Wow that’s gorgeous. Is it Harley Quinn though? If not I’d definitely they change the color scheme

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 19:01:40 2017 No.3236468 File: 290 KB, 1552x903, griffon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 19:23:00 2017 No.3236488 >>3236460 TRACING

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 19:30:36 2017 No.3236497 File: 636 KB, 800x776, ref.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3236488 pic related is the ref I used. I can just draw better than you can. >>3236463 Thanks but... really? Isn't harley quinn black and red?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 19:37:52 2017 No.3236500 File: 36 KB, 512x512, lolicious.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 19:59:46 2017 No.3236522 File: 497 KB, 656x1000, 094 b.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3234614 I knew the colours weren't looking right from the start but I had a headache and was being dumb so I kept going with it. I might just restart this orz

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 20:00:34 2017 No.3236523
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Another study. 3 hours this time.
Tried to listen to what >>3235760 said and made some varying edges. Also went back to my normal brushes. Added some selective color and other shit at the end just for funzies.

Painting skin that dark is pretty hard. All the values in shadow fall into the 0-9 area on the value scale.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 22:10:20 2017 No.3236623 >>3236500 nibba ur art aint gonna be giving anyone a problem, specially with those potato looking heads your characters have

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 22:22:32 2017 No.3236629 >>3236623 Why do people on here always larp as hood niggas? Happens on /ic/ more than other board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 22:24:34 2017 No.3236630 >>3236629 That's just illastrat

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 22:27:47 2017 No.3236635 >>3236629 Nigga u fulla shit dawwg! Why u gotta be like dat homie? We bros nigga dayyyymn!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 01:31:35 2017 No.3236783 File: 1.46 MB, 1378x1860, Etrogi3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Working on this drawing of my flatmate, what to improve?

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 02:19:02 2017 No.3236834

>>3236523
I was the guy who critiqued your hand/arm, Ireally like your stuff dude, I hope that point came across. In some areas though, like the blanket at his neck/shoulders, looks again very flat, it could be that you didnt care too much about that part.I think you would benefit from some simpler form studies

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 02:20:49 2017 No.3236837 >>3236497 you cant really draw better, you lost a lot of her uniqueness. but its still good

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 02:26:10 2017 No.3236839 File: 403 KB, 2145x1685, IMG_2708.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 02:47:19 2017 No.3236854
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>>3236834

Hey, thanks a lot for taking the time to look at my crap. You're right about me not caring about the blanket... I shouldn't have used that texture brush on it as now it draws more attention when I didn't take the proper time to do the construction.

It's really easy to lose sight of the original construction stuff when you start rendering, putting in values and fixing the proportional issues. I'm looking at Proko's hand construction tutorials and I'll definitely be studying that shit in my sketch book during the next few months. Maybe do stuff where I don't even shade anything and just build the character from spheres cylinders and boxes, which I didn't do here.

Tl;dr: Thanks.

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 03:09:51 2017 No.3236867
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>>3236854
You are very good at rendering but you should probably lay that off for a while and just try to go simpler, I agree. I see where youre coming from, I think its always important not to loose the big picture, Bridgman said that its important to always look for the square underlying structure, as in the end everything consists of shapes and therefore you could break everything down to squares. You are going to make it bro <3
I only have this old anatomy study of mine on my desktop now, I think my rendering isnt on par with yours but I feel I managed to feel the shapes better, I really like studying anatomy because of all the plane shifts that are v ery obvious and give 3d effects even in photos

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 03:43:40 2017 No.3236892

>>3236867

That's really nice. I like how you're using straight lines to tighten the silhouette. I actually prefer the dude on the left though even if we can't see him properly. Dem is sum strong shapes.

Funny that you should mention Bridgeman as I just started studying his stuff at the bar yesterday (was pretty fucking drunk so no image provided). I'm having a hard time deciding how to do the studies. I don't really want to mimic his cross hatching as it defeats the point of doing a construction/anatomy- study but I see a lot of people also do that. It's also impossible to get the energy in the strokes if you try to do them exactly like he did. I'm probably gonna stick to lines and doing the shading"my way".

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 03:54:13 2017 No.3236898 File: 716 KB, 700x700, iheartyou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3236837 The thing is I know I can. You're either a faggot or jelly or more than likely both.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 04:28:56 2017 No.3236933 File: 602 KB, 1274x700, aksdpaskdas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] work in progress

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 04:43:04 2017 No.3236938
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>>3236933

Looking awesome. I think you could stand to crop some of the uninteresting stuff out. This is a weird one but I think the image works much better flipped. As a westerner I read my images from left to right and when I opened it my first read was the mountain and I don't think it's the most interesting thing in the image.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 04:46:46 2017 No.3236942 >>3236933 is he a midget or is she a giant woman?

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 04:50:25 2017 No.3236946

>>3236892
You can copy his marks and then make the drawing into a value /tonal drawing, try to feel the shape, I have noticed it is really hard to do if you don't have a good grasp on the form that lies beyond the lines, I also have tons of studying to do still, as everyone has I think.
Cross hatching is also something you should pay attention to because it gives you more of a feel again, for shapes and directions in which they run.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 05:18:55 2017 No.3236965 >>3236938 Thanks, you're right. >>3236942 A dwarf. I realize his proportions aren't right which is why I haven't begun painting him yet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 05:22:58 2017 No.3236967 Is there any practice to have a steady hand for drawing on tablet? How do you do long strokes on medium size wacom?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 06:37:45 2017 No.3237014 >>3236967 you draw from your elbow not your wrist

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 06:38:47 2017 No.3237015 >>3236965 he should be bulkier because more mass has to fit into a smaller frame. otherwise he will look like a goblin or a little frail kid

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 08:43:52 2017 No.3237093 File: 473 KB, 580x848, d7cc84d92b8a5cf1476ec4d2bc407713.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] .

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 10:50:00 2017 No.3237181 File: 1004 KB, 1280x1280, 1502301674185.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3235413 ok buddy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 12:17:28 2017 No.3237245 >>3236783 his hands are super duper tiny

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 13:29:49 2017 No.3237295 There was a site where people posted movie screencaps for reference. Does anyone know it ? I've been searching but i can't find it. If i remember it was in the sticky but i can't seem to find it there

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 14:08:02 2017 No.3237319 >>3236783 He certainly looks flat. Honestly it looks very bad and you should post in beg/

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 14:23:10 2017 No.3237332 >>3236898 love you jace

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 14:53:09 2017 No.3237357 >>3236933 did you use photo as plate or did you use photos of trees.

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 15:22:54 2017 No.3237392
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>>3236933
Perhaps this looks a bit more dwarf-ey?
Dunno, take it as an inspo. And for god's sake, get rid of that horrible tangent with the girl's finger and the mountain peak, it's driving me nuts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 15:54:55 2017 No.3237413 File: 189 KB, 700x722, jumping boots.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should I try to finish this sketch or it will be a turd?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 15:58:53 2017 No.3237418 >>3236933 wtf are they doing? 'duhh the map says there's supposed to be a giant castle here somewhere' 'yeah look over there retard its right there' ???

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 16:04:48 2017 No.3237425 >>3237413 The silhouette is hardly readable. Try moving his right leg more than the right.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 16:22:08 2017 No.3237443 >>3230511 sup /pa/

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 16:22:56 2017 No.3237445 File: 2.21 MB, 719x1068, натюрморт с йегерем.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 17:35:59 2017 No.3237531 >>3237413 I really like it, it looks and feel very dynamic

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 19:27:21 2017 No.3237692 File: 283 KB, 1050x750, Still Life.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 19:37:47 2017 No.3237703

>>3233746
>the two light sources you have are in front and behind it
You seem to have a faulty understanding of light - there is no direct light on the bag, the soft shadow under it is mere ambient occlusion - which makes it correct.
If we exclude ambient light and the bag is in shadow, some parts of it can't be more in shadow than others, can they.

>>3237413
Very nice. Reminds me of Mikhail Rakhmatullin's art.
It has a nice flat graphic quality to it, don't lose it in the process of rendering.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 22:45:03 2017 No.3237841 File: 276 KB, 1908x1080, wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] christmas present for my girlfriend.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 23:04:15 2017 No.3237851 The question thread is saged. Can someone please tell me what "1/8 bleed" means or how I do that? I'm supposed to make a drawing that's 11x17 with "trim, 1/8 bleed" for a commission.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 23:14:34 2017 No.3237861 >>3237851 I recently did this. Bleed is letting the printer know how much room the is. if you make a document at 11x17 put your markers at about half and inch to and inch in to allow "bleed".

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 23:19:29 2017 No.3237867

>>3237851
Bleed is the stuff outside the bounds. It's so you can cut the edges and have the image go edge to edge. I'm not American but I would assume "1/8 bleed" would refer to one eight of an inch of "bleed" room, which makes sense to me because last time I made something for print, they told me to have 3mm bleed, which is about 1/8th of an inch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 02:04:07 2017 No.3237950 >>3236500 >puberty at six Maybe she has a problem

Anonymous Sat Dec 16 02:30:03 2017 No.3237959
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I don't know about this anymore. I was super stoked on the idea but after I got this far and took a step back it just seems very blaaah. I need to better show the ideas I want to convey because right now it just looks like some stupid women getting changed in the forest.

The idea I'm going with is that these women are skin walkers and they can morph into animals and such. But the way it works is that there are 2 main rules:

1. Transformation takes place out of the mouth and when transforming from a creature into another creature, the previous creature is left behind as a dead body.

2. they can transform into smaller creatures of any size at any time, but transforming into a larger creature can only be done at slight intervals. Such that a rabbit could not transform into a human because the size difference is too great, but a rabbit could transform into a badger, then a dog, then a wolf then a deer then a moose etc etc

Any ideas on how to make it better?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 02:36:23 2017 No.3237963 >>3237959 fuk u i like it the lines look tracey but i trust you

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 02:37:08 2017 No.3237964 File: 327 KB, 644x907, asfdsgh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] the smoke is a placeholder on a different layer for now

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 05:47:50 2017 No.3238026 >>3237841 Should have just paid someone to do thus while you were studying and getting gud.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 05:50:21 2017 No.3238027 >>3237959 It looks like some bitches and a dead Wolf with a foot in its mouth. Very hard to read, I bet you could come up with a better idea and seeing how you don't like it, why not call it a day

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 11:38:18 2017 No.3238242 >>3237851 1/8th bleed is how wide to make the cuts in your arms you fucking emo ass faggot.

Anonymous Sat Dec 16 16:19:00 2017 No.3238489
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>>3237959

I think it reads like some models are just hanging around and the wolf is chilling while chewing one of the girls leg. She's just like "I'm fine with this".

I think you'd need to have one of the girls in another stage of the transformation to show us what's really going on. Like she's 50% inside a wolf or something. Overall the whole mood is too casual to my liking.

It's not a terrible idea or anything and I like your composition. Reminds me of the Clovn/Violator transformation from the 90's Spawn movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKV2k-SOk8Q

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 17:12:55 2017 No.3238544 >>3238489 That's exactly how I feel about it. I'll try to whittle something up

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 19:15:39 2017 No.3238750 >>3234614 The subject looks super stiff and the angle of the face to shoulders is off and unnatural. Her face should be more forward in this image. Also, shame on you for cheating yourself in getting to draw hands.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 19:34:34 2017 No.3238788 File: 1.43 MB, 1594x1972, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sketch #2 for a oil painting I will make.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 21:15:27 2017 No.3238886 File: 341 KB, 1400x900, 121617.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 21:29:48 2017 No.3238912 File: 355 KB, 1400x900, 121617.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 23:44:00 2017 No.3239056 File: 896 KB, 662x827, actualfuck.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone please help me understand what I'm looking at here? I've drawn it five times now and I still don't get it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 01:10:12 2017 No.3239151 >>3239056 post the drawing u fuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 01:41:31 2017 No.3239168 File: 22 KB, 374x563, MEU DEUS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3230258 working on it i don't use any tablet, btw

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 02:04:58 2017 No.3239184 >>3239056 This man is AESTHETIC

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 02:08:59 2017 No.3239191
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>>3237959
Made some changes. THere's still some things I don't think work super well but is this an improvement?

I tried to emphasize the women's unease about the people approaching in the distance.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 07:56:32 2017 No.3239474 >>3239056 He is coming out of the hole in sprinting, his arm is moving forward in an arch. He is pushing himself away from the "Blocks" with the right leg

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 07:57:34 2017 No.3239476 >>3238912 Horse cock spaceship

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 08:44:16 2017 No.3239503 >>3239191 Yes but that wolf jaw should be broken. Like just hanging below or deformed like a snake. Right now we don't know how her whole body could fit in here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 13:27:05 2017 No.3239777 >>3239168 wtf this is way too good i hate uuu

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 14:54:30 2017 No.3239869 File: 402 KB, 710x700, crop.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3237392 >>3236933 How's this?

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 15:09:57 2017 No.3239902

>>3239869

I hope you're not going to have the crop that tight. Square canvas is quite unappealing imo. >>3236938 < was pretty nice.

The anatomy on the dwarf is much better now and I like where you're going wit the rendering. I hope you'll rough up their outfits a little bit. Keep it up! Think it's going to look really nice in the end.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 15:26:22 2017 No.3239930 >>3239902 Thanks. Btw, I just cropped it for this thread so people would focus on the dwarf.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 15:33:26 2017 No.3239943 >>3239930 Yeah, I thought so. Do you have a blog or something? I like your stuff and I'd like to see what a finished piece from you looks like.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 16:09:01 2017 No.3239978 File: 1.37 MB, 700x754, dont worry this door will close soon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] painting i made yesterday

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 17:10:31 2017 No.3240047
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How would you paint someone wearing black at night? I'm trying paint someone's patronus while they're wearing black robes and a black collared shirt. If is light in the background, then the patronus won't stick out. If its dark in the background, the robe will blend into the background too much.

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 17:19:29 2017 No.3240062

>>3236497
Yes it definiltey looks like harley quinn. She's blonde with pigtails and with that new garbage movie her costume is pink/red and blue.
The whole 'love' thing doesn't really help because she's like the "in love" character and her famous mantras are "mad love". You really need to change it to like orange and yellow or something.

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 19:46:44 2017 No.3240424
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Wonder which you guys prefer
The story is that this girl is visiting the grave of a deceased friend and when she arrives at the cemetery she finds a perfect grave seemingly laser cut into the ground next to her friend's. the grave is just her size

Any ideas as to make it all more interesting or whatever?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 00:54:57 2017 No.3240792 File: 491 KB, 1320x1416, baess.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 01:27:21 2017 No.3240809 >>3240047 the problem is you cant draw nor can you paint, you just suck and having a black robe at night isnt the problem go back to /beg/ by the way

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 09:14:19 2017 No.3241134 >>3239056 Looks like a black man, but i might be mistaken.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 13:58:59 2017 No.3241278 File: 2.39 MB, 3006x2316, 20171218_105548.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just designed this new character for my webcomic. Meet 'Big Mori'.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 15:55:52 2017 No.3241374 >>3240079 >>3240079 >>3240079 next thread

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