/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3228423]

Who do you think is the #1 best digital artist alive? Post their work. I want to see how many Ruan Jia vs Craig Mullins posts there'll be.

[Anonymous No.3228429]

Mullins for sure.

[Anonymous No.3228562]

>>3228429
i would disagree. craig doesnt push his paintings as far as jia does. and he can get the quick and dirty feel craig does pic related is ruan jia

[Anonymous No.3228564]

>>3228562
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8f/17/5e/8f175ed893684913cfd0257d53b4afae.jpg
and this is the only painting i know craig pushed, and its not that impressive. be wary that the file size is massive like 40MP

[Anonymous No.3228585]

>>3228562
not all of Mullins' work is quick and dirty. Ruan Jia also can't do phenomenal scenery like he can such as OP pic

[Anonymous No.3228608]

>>3228585
>phenomenal scenery
your turn

[Anonymous No.3228611]

>>3228423
Peleng

[Anonymous No.3228655]

>>3228611
Glad somebody else gets it. Ive been shit on in the past for this opinion.

[Anonymous No.3228656]

>>3228655
>>3228611
fuck off

[Anonymous No.3228684]

>>3228564
Nice highres, but it's definitely not the most pushed painting of his. That said, he's nowhere near Ruan when it comes to polishing and the level details. Though I actually prefer Mullins because of the subject matters, designs and the variety of moods and genres.

[Anonymous No.3228688]

>>3228684
i do agree that craig has better taste

[Anonymous No.3228708]

>>3228564
>https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8f/17/5e/8f175ed893684913cfd0257d53b4afae.jpg

>dat hand
Nice overpainted poser model there.

[Anonymous No.3228714]

>>3228656

no, they're right, Peleng is at least as good as Ruan Jia and really incredibly good. (neither of them come close to Mullins though)

[Anonymous No.3228717]

>>3228564

>and this is the only painting i know craig pushed,

That's John Liberto, not Mullins. Get on my level, jeez.

[Anonymous No.3228723]

>>3228714
this guy looks like a dime a dozen concept artist, no where in league with either Ruan Jia or Craig Mullins

[Anonymous No.3228735]

>>3228714
LOL

[Anonymous No.3228736]

>>3228423
mullins has the best grasp of perspective i've seen from a digital artist

[Anonymous No.3228755]

>>3228723

>this guy looks like a dime a dozen concept artist

that's because you're a noob who is only impressed with rendering and little details. Ruan Jia spends 200 hours rendering little jewels on a generic anime-girl's head and that's the pinnacle of art history for you. Also, you probably have an Asian fetish.

[Anonymous No.3228765]

>>3228755
>anime
alright so talk shit about this one

[Anonymous No.3228766]

>>3228755
>200 hours
he painted this in his livestream in less than 30 minutes

[Anonymous No.3228770]

>>3228723

w
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hhhHHHOKAY

[Anonymous No.3228773]

>>3228766
by ruan jia standards that needs 200 more hours before it's actually finished. it's not a secret that he's extremely slow

[Anonymous No.3228774]

>>3228773
get better taste friend

[Anonymous No.3228971]

ruan jia is so over rated

>>3228766
>>3228714
good render skills but shitty style

[Anonymous No.3229113]

>>3228608
You remember the Wootha's pyramid of what a piece of art consists of (pic)? That painting ignores the bottom 4.

[Anonymous No.3229118]

Piotr Jablonski, anyone?

Not the best, but still incredibly good.

[Anonymous No.3229151]

>>3229118

Was just about to post this. I had the fucking file selected! Somehow I really admire those European artists with their dark and toned down painterly stuff. I really like this dude called Maxim Verehin and obviously Peleng too.

Mullins is extremely skilled but when it comes to style I always admire the painterly shit more. I think the #1 spot should be split into categories like:

Industrial design:

>Scott Robertson

Speedpainting/concept lanscape:

>Feng Zhu

Speedpainting monsters and shit:

> Anthony Jones

Bad ass shit/fan art:

>Dave Rapoza

Lighting/Realistic rendering:

>Brad Rigney

Overall skill:

>Mullins and Ruan Jia


Just some of my picks, but fuck do I know. I'm just a fucking pleb.

[Anonymous No.3229155]

>>3229113
that seems a little dumb to me. all the other categories are abstract elements, so abstraction as it's own thing is dumb. i think the pyramid rather shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the terminology. good thing that art is practical so you don't need to know correct theory to do it well lol

[Anonymous No.3229164]

>>3228562
Why do you say pushing only means rendering? While i love jia paintings, craig mullins paintings speak to me far more. Jia just kinda uses his signature texture on everything and always overcomplicates the subjects instead of making a clear read.

And that pic isnt even close to the style craig mullings deals with. That american model face alone is so cringe to me.

[Anonymous No.3229177]

>>3229151
>grain
A lot of people underestimate the importance of dither for the finished artwork. It helps giving those dead, flat color planes more life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dither

[Anonymous No.3229187]

>>3229177

I generally like the look I get when I throw in an old paper texture, a little bit of grain and some chromatic aberration if it's a photographic piece. Going over the top with that shit looks fucking horrible but some subtle effects can really bring a piece together.

[Anonymous No.3229196]

>>3229187
I hate luvisi's stuff, always way too much shit

[Anonymous No.3229199]

>>3229196

I don't really think his stuff looks good either but I appreciate his craftsmanship. He really stuck out from the ocean of shit back in the old DA-days and he has some pretty good ideas.

[Anonymous No.3229201]

>>3229187
If you have several seperate layers to begin with, you can alternate the amount of grain (Gaussian) very well.
I personally would be very careful with using paper textures. I feel like it's quickly becoming phoney, if you use it too much, as the digital workflow has never seen any paper at all. The thing with paper is that the fibers spread the color of e.g. a felted pen in a very particular way. If you just overlay that on digital to make it look better, it always looks a bit fake to me.

But in this one: >>3229151 it's used very consistently. Colors are also great.

[Anonymous No.3229385]

>>3229151
that pic looks like some horrible bashing. How the fuck is he standing? and why is the thingy going between his legs even tho his arm is on level with his body. makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.3229388]

>>3229113

Yeah but he's a literally who who literally pulled that pyramid out of his ass. He's not an authority on any subject at all. Just a literally who.

[Anonymous No.3229390]

>>3229151
>>Feng Zhu

[Anonymous No.3229392]

nobody cares about digital art, I'm about to be a trillionaire

[Anonymous No.3229405]

>>3229392
Please refrain from showing portraits of your mother.

[Anonymous No.3229408]

>>3228723
LMFAOOO

[Anonymous No.3229435]

>>3229390
Seriously, why? Are you fucking dense? The guy has made millions of dollars with his stuff teaching and having his own production company as well as producing some AAA-grade art.

He's not my "favorite" artist either but you'd have to be pretty clueless about the whole industry or art in general to discard his abilities. Just saying.

I hope you're still living with your parents.

[Anonymous No.3229481]

>>3229435
i actually like feng zhu, people are just real salty

[Anonymous No.3229577]

>>3229392
dude you're a living cancer.

[Anonymous No.3229583]

>>3229481
Not memorable. I can't think of one specific piece of his, a lot of it's repetitive which might suit his work environment.

[Anonymous No.3229590]

>>3229583

Exactly. I must have seen dozens upon dozen of his work but I barely remember a single piece.

[Anonymous No.3229599]

I've been shit on for this opinion here before but I really think Michael Komarck is absolutely in the same tier as Jaime Jones, Ruan Jia, etc. One of the top 20 digital painters alive imo.

[Anonymous No.3229678]

I prefer Krenz to Ruan.

[Anonymous No.3229691]

>>3229678
I have nothing against Krenz but his handling on values outside of studies isn't as good as Ruan's yet, in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.3229695]

>>3228423
>meanwhile atey could draw that whole scene in 2 hours

[Anonymous No.3229738]

>>3228608

[Anonymous No.3229771]

>>3229738
yuck, that looks horrible. This is not how the original looked like. Who the fuck throws unsharpening masks on resized Mullins paintings?

[Anonymous No.3229776]

>>3228423
Is that pic by Mullins or by one of the dozens of unknown chinese artists who can paint just like him?

[Anonymous No.3229784]

>>3228608
wtf. this is now one of my favorite paintings of all time. thanks for sharing

[Anonymous No.3229791]

>>3229771
yeah

[Anonymous No.3229802]

>>3229113
sure kid, whatever you say

[Anonymous No.3229823]

>>3229392
Bait. Sorry, but you should puts some more practice into your nudes painting. It is kind of funny in a art brut sense, but the way you mix the skin tone is pretty entry level.

[Anonymous No.3229827]

>>3229791
the parts of the city with the arches in the shadow (middle) looks like some awkward copy-paste game. And the left tower on the upper part looks completely retarded. But hey! So much detail! So … kitschy!

[Anonymous No.3229832]

>>3229599
Michael Komarck's style depends entirely on his use of references. In his earlier work you can see him reusing the same Daz3D assets. Some of his dragons are from the Daz3D store as well. His character references are photographed by himself. It's interesting to note that he was a professional photographer and that he had a refined sense for composition and lighting even before switching to illustration.
Mullins, Jaime Jones and even Ruan Jia to some extent are able to pull off fantastic images without the use of references.

I know some retard will misread this so let me be clear: I'm not saying using references is bad.

[Anonymous No.3229833]

>>3229113
it's shit

[Anonymous No.3229835]

>>3229113
yup, it's all "hey look! tits, ass, skin, sexy!" mixed with some mashed up urban texture and cheap futurism. masturbation with details and shallow stories, but apparently, that's what people love on here.

[Anonymous No.3229839]

>>3229388
>Yeah but he's a literally who who literally pulled that pyramid out of his ass. He's not an authority on any subject at all. Just a literally who.
did you just try to come up with a tongue twister?

[Anonymous No.3229867]

>>3229835
That or some people are simply able to appreciate flawed art for its strengths and don't have to harp on its flaws like the dunning kruger crabs. Ruanjia is incredible at color and light and rendering. The subject matter almost doesn't matter.

In a way, people appreciate Ruanjia kind of like traditional fine artists are being appreciated. They rarely have anything of value to say with their subject matter and stories, but their technical skill and mastery of color and light makes looking at the 124235235 painting of a flower vase or homely naked lady still a pleasant experience. Especially if you are an artist yourself and want to learn from it. That's how Ruanjia is being appreciated.

[Anonymous No.3229869]

>>3229599
Fuck. I remember liking this. But now it seems stiff and too photo real, in tge bad way

[Anonymous No.3229873]

>>3229599
Why does everyone seem to be posing rather than doing things.

Not saying I could do any better though.

[Anonymous No.3229874]

Are we just going to ignore SPARTH?

[Anonymous No.3229877]

>>3229867
Notice how in each of his pictures with a person in the center, the person seems like a cut-out? He fails do marry the surroundings with the person entirely. You can feel the reference he uses and the pictures fall apart, if you have a generalized look at it and not get caught up in the details.

He is very skilled with rendering people, but he is shit when it comes to backgrounds.

[Anonymous No.3229879]

>>3229599
Strongly disagree. This is the type of art that looks good on first glance but then everything falls apart when looking beneath the surface. Everything is super realistic, but nothing is designed with a real purpose by the artist himself. Just look at the top right as the perfect example. The dude who is being picked up, about to get slammed. No fucking expression whatsoever, it's comical how calm he looks. The dude picking him up is no doubt some WWE wrestler and the artist didn't even bother to remove the belt. The girl on the left is literally Gal Gadot from some WW promo art or a trailer screenshot and the list goes on and on.

If you draw a bar room brawl, DESIGN the fucking thing, THEN look at references. Don't just copy paste photos and make every figure look good individually, but completely stiff and out of place as a whole.

[Anonymous No.3229880]

>>3229867

Sorry, by that >>3229877 I don't mean Ruan Jia, I mean whoever did these two pictures.

http://i.4cdn.org/ic/1512811640604.jpg
http://i.4cdn.org/ic/1512811599980.jpg

[Anonymous No.3229882]

>>3229879
I'm totally on your side, but that's a pretty unpopular opinion on /ic/, as almost everyone here values the amount of detail and effort more than artistic appeal.

[Anonymous No.3229912]

>>3229880
ruan jia did those.

[Anonymous No.3229926]

>>3229912
Ok, when I searched Ruan Jia, most of the stuff that comes up is dark toned concept art medievil kitsch. Im surprised it's the same guy.

[Anonymous No.3229931]

>>3228423
This is a bait post anyway you look at it.

Why not ask the question who is the more progressive artist?

Or are we all so lost that we don't care who is pushing and inspiring new ways to create images anymore?

[Anonymous No.3229933]

>>3228723
>
go look at his personal work, that might intrigue you a bit more. This is some work he did for dishonored

[Anonymous No.3229935]

Let's get some real painting in here for a change.

>Michaël Borremans

[Anonymous No.3229946]

>>3229926
thats because those drawinsg are only disclosed on his weibo account, so of course you wont find them there

[Anonymous No.3230113]

>>3229118

Damn, how long that would have taken...

[Anonymous No.3230164]

>>3229879

I wasn't a big fan of Frazetta when I grew up because I thought that his work was too "unfinished" and I had the mistaken idea that everything had to be tightly rendered to be considered good. Now as an adult I've really started to appreciate the fuck out of his work. He makes some funny proportional errors occasionally, but overall his design sense and compositions are just so damn... Solid, ya know?

[Anonymous No.3230444]

j.sweet is the best.

[Anonymous No.3230462]

>>3230113
if i remember correctly. im pretty sure its a mashup of 3-4 different artists working on the same piece.

[Anonymous No.3230473]

>>3229823
I'm toying with some ideas that probably won't result in anything but it's got me more committed to realism than ever before, this drawing I based that painting on isn't anything special but at least I'm putting in an effort right now

also I just got permabanned from the art subreddit for calling someone a retard so I guess its 4chan from here on out

[Anonymous No.3230585]

>>3228608
>no fucking values or contrast, entire piece looks flat
>near nonexistant lighting
wowee zowee. also the lady in the foreground looks pasted in and doesnt belong at all. I really dig the rendering and construction on the buildings but the piece as a whole is so fucking flat and uninteresting to look at

[Anonymous No.3230592]

>>3229879
>The girl on the left is literally Gal Gadot from some WW promo art or a trailer screenshot and the list goes on and on.

definitely not; this is an Age of Conan promo piece and that game came out way before DC's cinematic universe stuff did

[Anonymous No.3230595]

>>3228755
>>3228770
>>3229408
>>3229933

why are Peleng and his samefag shiller such bitches?

[Anonymous No.3230661]

Peleng but unironically.
Really, there's a whole lot of craftsmen in this thread but very few artists.

>>3229155
What do you think 'design' is? Contrasts, rhythms, flow, harmony, tension, emotion, anticipation and twist. They're all abstract concepts.

Even a semantic drawing of an anime girl has to work as an abstraction. So many people wonder why their technically correct drawing lacks appeal, well, this is why.
"Appeal" has actually very little to do with the semantic quality of your drawing.

[Anonymous No.3230841]

>>3228423
Ruan Jia might be technically sound and all but his images are so fucking boring and same old same old.
Anime faced bitches, armor, flat hair, over rendered tasteless pastiche.
I enjoy his stuff on a technical level but his work is so meaningless. Mullins tries out new stuff, always comes up with good ideas and mixes fantasy with real life in a very appealing way.

[Anonymous No.3230845]

>>3230473
Seriously dude, not trying to hate but that drawing is pretty bad, its technically and stylistically bad

[Anonymous No.3230865]

>>3229599
This looks so bad, like a really cheap edgy fantasy video game.
If you really enjoy this you will probably never develop a good sense of style or even "make it" in general
Enjoying this is akin to unironically wanting a tribal tattoo.

[Anonymous No.3230879]

>>3229867
His pictures don't carry any emotion, no story is being told, he invokes nothing. Its literally masturbatory technique shit that you care about, but technique is nothing. You can tell that the guy is boring as hell and that he only surrounds himself with boring things. He paints day in and day out but never tries to step beyond his comfort zone stylistically

[Anonymous No.3230899]

>>3230879
I adore how much you hate Ruan Jia. It's like a major part of your life, a true passion.

[Anonymous No.3230909]

>>3229935
>Who do you think is the #1 best digital artist alive?
>best digital artist alive?
>digital
>???

[Anonymous No.3230912]

>>3230899
I actually have some pictures saved, I don't hate him at all. Its just what I said.
Compare his work to anything that really evokes emotion, he falls flat.
There is no story told, just look at the picture of the half naked anime slut gazing at the skyscrapers, it's fucking boring.

[Anonymous No.3230915]

>>3229935
Wow, this is so deep, a man in a dress with black face, crazy.

[Anonymous No.3230927]

>>3228423
Peleng

[Anonymous No.3230942]

>>3230927
newfag

[Anonymous No.3230954]

>>3230942
I'm right

[Anonymous No.3230994]

>>3230912
He's not some human-camera artist that just copies photos tile-by-tile.

He adds lots of visual interest in the areas he wants you to see, and he makes the other areas rather subtle, and yet when you look at the whole piece, it reads. Your mind fills in the blanks, and feasts on the details there to behold. If you zoom in on his brushwork, you'll notice he's not over-rendering at all. He's just painting zoomed out most of the time on a really big canvas size.

I really hate it when people say RJ has no emotion in his work. Maybe it's there, and it just doesn't resonate with "you" in particular.

[Anonymous No.3231013]

>>3230994
Kek
His work is sterile and he always plays it super safe. His work means nothing in their grand scheme, it appeals to the lowest common denominator.

[Anonymous No.3231050]

>>3231013
>lowest common denominator
>his work means nothing

To who?

>to the community of "learned academics" who were so easily duped into wasting their breath trying to extrude a philosophical narrative from the work of Pierre the chimpanzee, and the community who couldn't tell the difference between supposed pieces of art and jpeg files literally made in mspaint

Maybe take George Condo's phallic manubrium projections out of your beckoning craw hole for one second. Ruan Jia is among, if not, the most technically proficient artists alive, he would be a fine artist for the ages if he chose to pursue that path.

[Anonymous No.3231054]

>>3228423
That piece always reminds me of this one by Lawrence Alma-Tadema:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Alma_Tadema_Spring.jpg

[Anonymous No.3231061]

>all these Peleng shills

fuck off with your shit taste

[Anonymous No.3231069]

>>3231050
>To who?
To anyone who isn't a teenage anime obsessed edgelord.

He has no story to tell through his work whatsoever - jerking off over canvas sizes doesn't change the shallow nature of it.

But no, lets fucking fawn over him over-rendering the shit out of some pendant that isn't even the focus of the piece and ignore that the piece itself is a boring, uninspiring piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.3231071]

>>3231069
wow males staring at each other, great story there mate. PROTIP: it's shit.

[Anonymous No.3231072]

>>3231071
It's far and above anything Ruan Jia is capable of producing, in part because he's a manchild who has nothing of importance or value to say to anyone.

But don't let me interrupt you from shitting on Norman Rockwell.

[Anonymous No.3231078]

>>3231072
>nothing of importance or value to say to anyone.
>then proceeds to pick norman who's work solely are for company advertisement and consumerism.

hyperkek

[Anonymous No.3231081]

>>3231072
whew anon, i agree you're starting to look like you have a personal hatred against him.

[Anonymous No.3231083]

>>3231078
Sure kid.

[Anonymous No.3231085]

>>3231083
>The painting was originally published as a centerfold in the January 14, 1964 issue of Look

like I said advertisement, thanks for proving my point.

[Anonymous No.3231086]

>>3231085
>The painting was originally published as a centerfold in the January 14, 1964 issue of Look.[5] Rockwell had ended his contract with the Saturday Evening Post the previous year due to frustration with the limits the magazine placed on his expression of political themes, and Look offered him a forum for his social interests, including civil rights and racial integration.

If you're going to copy and paste do a better job of it next time kiddo.

[Anonymous No.3231088]

>>3231083
Norman painted extra creases and wrinkles on people's faces to push their expressions. That's all I'm seeing as far as this "emotion" you're talking about. Of course RJ isn't going to do that, it's not aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.3231091]

>>3231088
sure it's "flatter" and stoic by comparison, but beautiful.

[Anonymous No.3231094]

>>3231086
>being a old school SJW is saying something important to the world

you must think gender binary is the hottest thing right now.

[Anonymous No.3231100]

>>3231088
I'm using Rockwell as just an example - his work is very blunt and his messages are to the point. There's plenty of artists out there who use their artistic talent to actually say something, but these are far and few because for most of them, the impact comes from having seen it and felt it. Advertising bucks aside, they literally have something to say and the means to say it.

RJ doesn't have anything to say because he's a coddled manchild who grew up in front of his bedroom computer. The most he can do is do vague attempts at emotion like the one attached.

Comparing RJ to Mullins is hilarious - at least Mullins tries to convey some empathy and creativity in his work rather than churning out the same three quarter portraits of anime girls and boring, unimaginative enviro art.

But keep defending his polished colorful turds if it makes you happy.

[Anonymous No.3231105]

>>3231088
>That's all I'm seeing as far as this "emotion" you're talking about.
If all you see in Norman Rockwell's work are creases then his statements flew the fuck over your head.

[Anonymous No.3231106]

>>3231100
if you're so inclined about the message rather than the art, then be a speaker. art for art sakes, not for some pretentious faggot.

[Anonymous No.3231108]

>>3231106
>art for art sakes

[Anonymous No.3231110]

>>3231108
>muh message

[Anonymous No.3231120]

>>3231069
i love how everyone things he overenders everything, when thats hardly ever the case. everyone is so awestruck by his colors and lighting that they have to think MUH RENDERING. i mean fuck there are other paintings that have far more time clocked in than his 200 hours paintings, fucking ngmi retards

[Anonymous No.3231122]

>>3231069
i love how everyone thinks he overenders everything, when thats hardly ever the case. everyone is so awestruck by his colors and lighting that they have to think MUH RENDERING. i mean fuck there are other paintings that have far more time clocked in than his 200 hours paintings, fucking ngmi retards

[Anonymous No.3231126]

>Ruan Jia vs Craig Mullins thread
>Bitching about over rendering
This board is ngmi

[Anonymous No.3231195]

>>3231085
>you're no longer an artist if you get paid for your work

[Anonymous No.3231199]

>>3231100
>RJ doesn't have anything to say because he's a coddled manchild who grew up in front of his bedroom computer.
I love just how much of your own life you are projecting onto Ruanjia. Ruanjia might not have had the most eventful life ever, but moving from China to Canada, working in-house at ArenaNet with lots of other great artists, doing live demos across the world, teaching at university etc are probably more meaningful things than you have so far experienced in your own coddled manchild life.

[Anonymous No.3231200]

>>3231195
>trying to butt in without even knowing the context of the argument

[Anonymous No.3231201]

>>3231199
DAMMNNN fucking roasted i wonder what the little bitch is going to say next

[Anonymous No.3231223]

>>3231200
You implied that Norman's ideas and stories are somehow devalued by them being commissioned work for commercial magazines, which is an argument worth shitting on tbqh.

[Anonymous No.3231225]

>>3228608
is her calf really small or is there something wrong with me?

[Anonymous No.3231228]

>>3231225

It is. His anatomy is dodgy.

[Anonymous No.3231229]

>>3231100
This so much.
The reason I stopped drawing is the same for which I don't like RJ. It's about themes and emotions. The lack of them. RJ may be a great painter but he's a crappy artist. All he can do is render beautifully in a unique way. Which is good btw, but no emotions or ideas are conveyed through his paintings.
He's boring and it shows.

[Anonymous No.3231235]

>>3231229
>The reason I stopped drawing

opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.3231246]

>>3231229
He clearly can convey ideas, otherwise he wouldn't get hired as illustrator and concept artist. It might not be ideas you approve of, but they are ideas regardless.

[Anonymous No.3231289]

>>3231100
>polished colorful turds
Pretty good summary. I like to compare his works with the standard wolf-moon-girl poster that was a must for every 14yr old girl back in the day. There's not more to RJs works than shallow masturbatory sculpting of sexy grills with colorful confetti and shit.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=moon+girl+wolf&bext=msl&atb=v94-3&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F4e%2F53%2F2d%2F4e532dc33abe62f93d52f81b6ff4e6fa.gif

[Anonymous No.3231294]

>>3231229
>All he can do is render beautifully in a unique way. Which is good btw
> but he's a crappy artist
which one is it, you sound conflicted. are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.3231296]

>>3231289
pic related is RJ, you wana keep talking shit you stupid fucking cunt?

[Anonymous No.3231322]

>>3231296
A bunch of Manley knights with Deutscher Orden armor, wow, I wonder what the story behind this must be.

[Anonymous No.3231324]

>>3231294

I don't necessarily agree with him but he's saying he is a good craftsman but not necessarily artistically developed

[Anonymous No.3231328]

>>3231100
Norman Rockwell is on par with RJ regarding emotional impact, just because he lived a while ago doesn't give his work more meaning. Rockwell was a beta who always admired Leyendecker and who never really developed a good sense of style, his work is clichee and so on the nose it's funny.

[Anonymous No.3231335]

>>3231050
Lmao. He is not even close to being comparable to a real master, he can not even paint fucking hair for Christ's sake.
Ruan Jia paints either:
Glorified anime sluts
Glorified anime sluts with a dick
Epic anime sluts with big and bulky armor
Epic dragons

That's it, everything else he does is comission work.
Oh, regarding my first statement, just take a look at this extreme perspective painting of his and look at the figure in the front, look how wonky she looks like and how badly painted some parts are, how he just clipped her into the piece after having painted the background. He has no sense of style, stop pretending he has.

[Anonymous No.3231338]

>>3228608
It's so glaringly obvious that he didn't even have the Lara Croft bitch in there in the initial composition, the fucking anime girl doesn't even point at her.

[Anonymous No.3231349]

>>3230915
right? kek

[Anonymous No.3231359]

>>3228608
that hand tho

[Anonymous No.3231363]

>>3230473
yeah Brian you can do better than this, your self portraits are done much better

[Anonymous No.3231368]

>>3231335
His "fine art" work is a muddy, brown mess. He has absolutly no talent in hinting at plasticity. All he ever does is excessive masturbation over details. You realize how awkward he gets when he doesn't labor over details.

>>3231296
>another one second "wow!" scene with no substance
So, is this how deep he gets narratively?
Do you know those guys in major cities who paint planetary / galaxy / moon kitsch paintings with stencils within a minute? Ruan Jia basically has the same symbolism in most of his works. Most often romanticism in exaggerated, anchient architecture, an army or a lone soldier, or a sexy chick with hardly any armor. The posture >>3228774 here actually makes no sense at all. Is she relaxed? Is she ready to fight?
You can see on the ground that he sucks at creating space only by hinting. His priorities are really just on simple fantasy-genre cliché symbols, anatomy and detail and applied concept art. Which is why you can't confuse that sort of work with fine art.

[Anonymous No.3231369]

>>3231363
Nigga shut up

[Anonymous No.3231375]

>>3231368
gotta love them dunning krugers.
take your shitty fine art ideologies elsewhere fagboy

[Anonymous No.3231376]

>>3231338
lol no?

[Anonymous No.3231380]

Aside from Craig Mullins, Ruan Jia & Kolesov, isn't there any other artist on par with them?

C'mon anons, I want to discover some new names, your CM vs RJ / West vs East discussions are getting boring pretty fast...

[Anonymous No.3231385]

>>3231368
Serious question, why are you so obsessed with Ruanjia? You've spent several hours yesterday in that other thread embarassing yourself while trying to convince people that Ruanjia is a bad artist and now you're starting the exact same argument here? For what purpose? You can't make people believe in you over their own lying eyes, you know.

Yes, Ruanjia is an illustrator and most of his subject matter is fantasy. How often do you have to mention this? Draw whatever ideas and subject matter it is that you enjoy and stop obsessing so much over what other artists enjoy drawing. Because I assure you, if people actually saw your art, most would think it was absolutely worthless garbage. You are not nearly as unique and imaginative as you'd like to think you are.

[Anonymous No.3231387]

>>3231375
>so pissed
>uploads shitty nude drawing
>the stupid flat patch on her back alone
>not to mention the shitty, untalented Loomis lines and grades, just to fill shit up somehow
>visible boxes and edges all over
talk about your "Dunning Kruger" meme …
yeah

[Anonymous No.3231389]

>>3231376
Damn, I actually like this one a lot more than the rendered version.

[Anonymous No.3231390]

>>3231385
>board to discuss art work
>complains that someone discusses art work
wtf?


>most would think it was absolutely worthless garbage.
assumption

>You are not nearly as unique and imaginative as you'd like to think you are.
more assumption

[Anonymous No.3231392]

>>3231385
>Because I assure you, if people actually saw your art …
>BECAUSE I ASSURE YOU

lol, dude. nice reading in your crystal ball. does is do weather forecast, too?

[Anonymous No.3231394]

>>3231390
I'm just asking, don't you get tired "discussing" the same thing for hours and days at a time while everyone is laughing at you and calls you a moron? Do you have autism? Don't you have anything else to do?

[Anonymous No.3231398]

>>3231392
It's not an assumption, it's a fact. You know that and that's why you are so mad.

[Anonymous No.3231407]

>>3231394
There were quite a few guys agreeing with my stance and one anon also copied a paragraph i wrote in another thread (not the butthurt "MOMAtard" yapping little kid who did a screenshot, another one).
So yeah, seems not like I'm as alone as you want to make it look, sorry.

>>3231398
>It's not an assumption, it's a fact.
Yup, the all-seeing oracle has to know. I bow before you and try to ignore the many exhibitions I've participated in with peers.

[Anonymous No.3231408]

>>3231392
That statement isn't even an assumption about your (most likely very low) skill level. It's more that if someone as good as Ruanjia still has dunning krugers like you calling him shit, then it is all but a 100% certainty that there would be plenty of people who'd call your art shit too. So the moral of the story is to stop pretending you alone know what all art should look like and just create what you enjoy, because you will never please everyone.

[Anonymous No.3231411]

>>3231408
>(most likely very low) skill level.
more assumptions. dude, will you ever stop? you are a ridiculous little kid. this is a discussion board and if you can't accept other peoples opinions, you should get off the internet. I'm arguing pretty detailed about what I mean and if you disagree, argument against it and don't give me that "you are shit, because I know!" crap.

[Anonymous No.3231414]

>>3231387
uh OH! your dunning kruger is showing!

[Anonymous No.3231416]

>>3231407
just because you reply to your own comments doesnt mean people are agreeing with you.

[Anonymous No.3231419]

>>3231411
yes and your argument is invalid just your shitty notions, now stop talking

[Anonymous No.3231420]

>>3231416
please prove your ludicrous accusation.
having a hard time accepting that there are more people with such an opinion? is it so unthinkable to you?

[Anonymous No.3231424]

>>3231419
>is invalid just your shitty notions, now stop talking
wow, so elaborate! great argument!

There was one dickhead who said "all digital fartists are just as good in traditional art!"
I showed that Ruan Jia sucks at abstraction and has flaws in real painting.
You don't argue against that, you just say "fuck you, I don't like what you say!"

[Anonymous No.3231425]

>>3231420
nah, i can believe there are people out there who have shit taste just like you. we call you normies

[Anonymous No.3231429]

>>3231425
>we call you normies
>you
>normie
dude, you just know it all, don't you? you should buy a shitload of lottery tickets.

[Anonymous No.3231431]

>>3231424
oh man now youre saying he is shit across the board, man you have no limits do you big boy

[Anonymous No.3231432]

>>3231411
>if you disagree, argument against it and don't give me that "you are shit, because I know!" crap.

But I did just that in the post you replied to. It's not my fault you get so triggered by me pointing out your very low degree of artistic competence and stop reading anything after that.

[Anonymous No.3231434]

>>3231429
am i the one talking shit to one of the greatest digital artists? im not the one in denial here, im just simpling saying youre full of shit. and so does everyone els.

[Anonymous No.3231437]

>>3231424
>"all digital fartists are just as good in traditional art!"
No one said that. The argument was that good digital artists are better at traditional art than you are and that many of them are fairly competent at it. Obviously digital artists are better at the medium they spend the most time on, same as traditional artists.

[Anonymous No.3231438]

>>3231376
kek, what the hell is this lower body/pelvis/ass region, is this a joke?

[Anonymous No.3231439]

>>3231434
man, are you ever butthurt. are you his agent? why do you get so upset about someone arguing against a shitposting carpet argument statement "all digital artists are automatically good in traditional media"?
check your bloodpressure.

[Anonymous No.3231441]

>>3231375
You dont even know what Dunning Kruger means do you? We are not pretending to be good artists or on the same level as RJ. Now gtfo with your meme words and ad hominem arguing.

[Anonymous No.3231442]

>>3231439
youre replying to the wrong post kiddo

[Anonymous No.3231444]

>>3231368
pretty much
if someone looks at this painting and says he is on one level with literal masters then he is just ignorant.

[Anonymous No.3231445]

>>3231441
i do, but you dont ill set it down for you in leymans terms

you talk shit to good artist
when you are shit

get that through your head big boy

[Anonymous No.3231448]

>>3231439
Not him, but no one was even talking about this ITT. Why the fuck do you take some shit from another thread and argue about it in this one? And by the way, they are obviously right. Good digital artists are better at traditional art than YOU are at traditional art because if they are good at the fundamentals of art, they will always be good at art regardless what medium they choose. I mean, obviously they'd be pretty bad the first week or so until they got used to it, but after the initial getting used to part, they'd surpass you in no time even if you spent all your life at that medium. You simply underestimate the importance of the universal fundamentals and you overestimate the difficulty of traditional media.

[Anonymous No.3231451]

>>3231444
>if someone looks at this painting and says he is on one level with literal masters then he is just ignorant.

stop replying to yourself. No one even said that you mental midget. Ruanjia is obviously nowhere near the level of master painters, but he IS closer in skill to a master painter than you are to Ruanjia.

[Anonymous No.3231452]

>>3231441
Ah, strange, I don't seem to be alone with some of my arguments afterall.

>>3231445
If everyone was to live by your standard, there would be no discussion on art at all. If all you can ever say is that you need to do the same things as Ruan Jia in order to criticize Ruan Jia, you pretty much forbid everybody else to talk about it at all. Just because someone doesn't labor for days over getting a kitsch realism going, doesn't mean they aren't competent in art critique.

What is your problem with analyzing certain characteristics? Do you cry over your lord Ruan Jia being taken apart?

[Anonymous No.3231453]

>>3231448
>if they are good at the fundamentals of art, they will always be good at art regardless what medium they choose.
nope. you have absolutely no idea what you talk about. get yourself a book on art materials and learn about pigments, varnishes, painting medium, real (!) brushes etc.
you are clueless comparing digital painting with plastic pens and boards to painting with oils.

[Anonymous No.3231456]

>>3231434
What do you gain by sucking a chinese dudes cock? Is it the fact that you aspire to be like him? Yes he is technically good in some areas but he is not perfect, he is not a fucking god and this is all we are trying to tell you (and your clique) here. He could benefit a great deal from broadening his horizon, from studying traditionally and from a more diverse subject matter. You masturbate over his rendering but you forget that he is working on canvases that would be equal to multiple feet wide and high with the ability to zoom in and out at will. He is a timid artist, he limits himself because he knows that he is doing this stuff for a living. William Adolphe Bouguereau is a good example of someone that is actually a much better artist but who also worked very comfrotably in boundaries entirely set by his desire to make money. People call pre raphaelites kitschy but I dont agree with them, most of ruan jia's and bouguereaus work deserves the term though. Now go ahead call me Dunning Krüger, wanna be artist or idiot, but you and I we both know its true. Ruan Jia can not hold a candle stylistically to even other contemporary artists like Peleng. Sure he has a great understanding of light and form but what is it worth it if all he ever does with it are anime eyed moon faced sexualized girls and pastiche landscapes with no real wow factor to them. I like his work, it appeals to me in some ways but I dont get lost in his worlds or wonder about the artist behind the painting, what he might have felt painting that. RJ sits in front of his wacom board, listens to chinese pop music, throws some colors on his canvas, enlarges it and then paints another girl. I think he could be far greater but he is very much stuck in his comfort zone I think.

[Anonymous No.3231460]

>>3231451
I am not the same guy, there are not just 2 people on this board bro, maybe you will figure it out. All you do is attack people for belching forth criticism, its so laughable. I bet not a single fucking master after the year 1600 was this fucking bad at painting hair.
What now? Call me a loser again? I look forward to your rebuttals, its so much fun arguing with a brick wall

[Anonymous No.3231461]

>>3231456

"MOMA guy" here. Finally someone who gets it.
I too appreciate some of the aspects in Ruan Jia's approach. I find the way he flattens the colors on the body quite interesting >>3228774 like her fingers on the left hand and the soft allover look of the figures.
I thought this board is about discussing things, but apparently, some of you believe that diverging opinions are bad.

[Anonymous No.3231462]

>>3231451
bloodpressure, dude.
start accepting other opinions or you will have a hard time. you are taking this way too personal.

[Anonymous No.3231463]

>>3231461
I really find his painterly style amazing, as you said, the flatness that serves to make things appear 3D is awesome, I love how he renders, but it doesnt detract from his inability/unwillingness to try out new areas. Most of his work shows just one character, but they are neither in great distress, nor in any emotional state other than tranquility perhaps. His Legend of the Cryptids work has this very epic look but the characters he paints seem like they dont give a fuck and only care about looking pretty. His style and approach to human emotion is just extremely shallow.

[Anonymous No.3231464]

>>3231461
well anyway, I am off to studying, I will check back from time to time, fucking Rubens is making me nauseos

[Anonymous No.3231466]

>>3231464
lol, writing an essay on Rubens or what? I've seen a major exhibition of his works in the Royal Academy London. Really blows you away, especially the fat horse asses.

[Anonymous No.3231469]

>>3231466
No, I am literally studying him (his self portrait)
I find it amazing how delicate very fine details in these old masters works completely change the expression on their faces, sometimes its just a single value that turns someone from looking excited to looking angry.

[Anonymous No.3231470]

>>3231469
Nice. I feel the same about Rembrandt portraits. It's just incredible how peculiar his style is and you seriously need to see it upclose in a museum.

[Anonymous No.3231472]

>>3231470
only have been to a Sorolla exhibit since I started to seriously draw, I should probably go more often

[Anonymous No.3231475]

>>3231472
It's a major source of motivation for me. I try to go to as many exhibitions as possible. You can get into most museums in Europe either for cheap or at a reduced rate with an IAA pass.

[Anonymous No.3231478]

>>3231475
*for free

[Anonymous No.3231480]

>>3231475
I will try and go to one these christmas days breh, promise.
But yeah, Rubens drawings are so mindblowing, its really weird because when youre not into this stuff you really do not see the delicacy and the expertise these guys had, you just go "Meh, another drawing that looks very old" but yesterday I studied Raphael and the guy is dead for so long but he had such a good grasp on form and shape.

[Anonymous No.3231488]

I just got here and this

>>3228755
>>3228714

is literally the only interesting art in the entire thread

[Anonymous No.3231489]

>>3231480
I like to imagine how insanely fresh old works must have looked when they were made. Imagine the paper being less yellowish, wormy, moldy. You can't clean it up in PS sufficiently as you loose a lot of detail if you do.
I'd imagine that a Bruegel painting must have been completely mindblowing back in those days, with the colors and all.

[Anonymous No.3231490]

>>3231368
All digital painters suffer from haze and blurry edges.

[Anonymous No.3231493]

>>3231489
Yeah, these guys were so fucking modern, these compositions just work, if you would give these studies to modern "masters" they would make it work just as these things worked back then. The paintings I feel like have lost their modern aspect much more, but these old studies carry so much life in them, it is as if they were done just yesterday

[Anonymous No.3231496]

>>3231452
dude stop fucking lying to yourself. im not defending ruan jia, im trying to tell you how much of an idiot you are by trying to talk shit time him, when all your statements have been invalid

[Anonymous No.3231497]

>>3231496
>how much of an idiot you are by trying to talk shit time him
wow, good one.

>when all your statements have been invalid
tell me how they are invalid then. stop being a little pussy with your excuses and argue against it.

[Anonymous No.3231498]

>>3231453
ok first of all, varnishes is for preserving a painting, nothing to do with the process. painting medium??? do you mean the binders on paint? its all ready premixed into tubes so why would anyone want to learn about them. real brushes... lol so you really are a beginner

[Anonymous No.3231499]

>>3231456
tldr, not reading your shitty opinions. you keep thinking im defending RJ but you keep overlooking the fact that i just dont give a shit about how much shit you talk about him, its you trying to belittle him because you probably think your taste is far superior 2deep4u fine art garbage enthusiast. not everything has to have a fucking story behind it to make it an appealing work, if thats what fine art has tought you then you lost all sense of why we even draw

[Anonymous No.3231500]

>>3231498
>its all ready premixed into tubes
… so you're saying you don't need to know how there materials work, what they are made of, how you can work so it doesn't get cracks over years, preserve it …
now who's the oblivious beginner here?

[Anonymous No.3231502]

>>3231499
again faggot, more people on this board than you believe.

stop being so upset. you have a serious issues with other opinions. and just to clear things up, someone literally wrote in another thread that Ruan Jia is as good in traditional media as he is in others - proven to be complete and utter bullshit. That's what this is about.

[Anonymous No.3231504]

>>3231499
>you try to belittle this guy so I will belittle you, surely this is how to win arguements and go out as the superior person
lmao, also taking pride in not listening to others opinions is so fucking american, I bet your blood type is beetus

[Anonymous No.3231505]

>>3231497
theyre invalid because youre comparing him to something hes not, youve said it plenty of times that he is a fantasy artist. he makes things pretty end of story. your shitty statements of he is garbage! he stuff is nothing more appealing than 14 yo moon wolf art! like nigga youre going in circles. you are a shit head and nothing is going to change your shitty attitude, personality and taste.

[Anonymous No.3231506]

>>3231505
did you ever consider the option that neither of the 2 guys who are arguing you right now are the guy with some wolf moon shit? I know its hard to someone like you to think about but there are more than 3 people on the internet

[Anonymous No.3231507]

>>3231502
>proven to be complete and utter bullshit
there you go again with trying to talk shit to him
>>3231504
how am i belittling? because i call you out on talking shit to other people? i bet youre a disgusting narcissist

[Anonymous No.3231508]

>>3231506
theres no argument. youre calling someone shit, im not. you think you know what youre talking about, im calling you out on it.

[Anonymous No.3231509]

>>3231507
>>3231508
So in essence youre the Dunning Kruger you always see in others?

[Anonymous No.3231510]

>>3231500
lol no you dont dick breath. premixed tubes is all you will ever need. they have labels for the qualities (opaque, transparent, semi) and guess what they are labeled with the type of binder too! and theyre mostly binded with linseed oil! youre telling me youre going to manually do that for all the shit youre going to paint with? and ultimately fail because you have no idea what the fuck youre doing?

[Anonymous No.3231512]

>>3231509
yes because im the one talking shit to other artists, im the dunning kruger. how many chromosomes are you missing btw?

[Anonymous No.3231523]

>>3231512
>Extra or missing autosomal chromosomes usually result in miscarriage of the embryo. One exception to this is having an extra chromosome 21, known as trisomy 21. Although fetuses with trisomy 21 are often miscarried, a number survive, and they have the condition known as Down's syndrome.
>One exception to this is having an extra
>extra
Mr Dunning Kruger at work again I see, is there any end to your lack of expertise?

[Anonymous No.3231530]

>>3231510
Thanks for proving that you are clueless. Nobody who - unlike you - knows something about fine art will seriously buy a painting that is technically carelessly excecuted. The edge of a canvas can tell you a lot about how the artist works and whether he is technically skilled and knows his materials.

>and ultimately fail because you have no idea what the fuck youre doing?
I told you so many times, throw your crystal ball away. You are shitposting, projecting and hurling ludicrous claims around in your childish tamper tantrum.

[Anonymous No.3231540]

>>3231523
why are you reuploading images i uploaded?

[Anonymous No.3231542]

>>3231530
>knows something about fine art will seriously buy a painting that is technically carelessly excecuted
because normies really give a fuck about that. jesus how new are you? its like you think its a big fucking secret, guess what its not

[Anonymous No.3231545]

This is what RJ's rendering looks like up close and personal. Does that look over-rendered to you? Does it look like it took him two weeks to get all the polish done in this particular area?

Please stop trying to make the argument that RJ's only merit is that he over-renders the fuck out of his paintings. He doesn't. What he does is he builds up texture with brush strokes and he controls his values and edges so that his paintings read at a distance. His strokes are chaotic, dynamic and random. This is called brush abstraction, and it's the sign of an artist that understands a lot about traditional methods.

[Anonymous No.3231547]

>>3231545
>zooms in
>besides the point
so sweet, but that says absolutely nothing about the ALLOVER look of the artwork, the entire composition. And the hair on that girl he painted on canvas is still absolutely crap. You can zoom in on that and it won't change anything.

He can know all he wants about traditional media, as you assume. It doesn't show in his hinting and more abstract parts of a picture.

[Anonymous No.3231554]

>>3231547
post an example of good hair

[Anonymous No.3231556]

>>3231547
You're missing the point. The point is that him being a render God is false. Therefore, people should stop using that as an argument to discredit him. Because it's simply not true.

I like his oil paintings. They're executed the same way his digital work is. He's the only one who paints like that. It's intriguing.

[Anonymous No.3231576]

>>3231475
WIP 2 hours in

[Anonymous No.3231588]

>>3231554

[Anonymous No.3231598]

>>3231576
cool dude. keep up the study!
there's always something you take with you by drawing from masters.

[Anonymous No.3231603]

>>3231598
I am done here, I could have worked the hair more but 3 hours and the eyes study from yesterday is enough I think, my shitty phone doesn't really take good pictures.
I think I actually learned quite some things, taking in the abstractions of others is always very interesting

[Anonymous No.3231615]

>>3231368
>So, is this how deep he gets narratively?
This is what I mean - people confuse his enviro art for storytelling. There is no storytelling there, there's nothing happening. It's atmospheric masturbation.

>>3231328
>Norman Rockwell is on par with RJ regarding emotional impact
Rockwell is not "on par" with RJ you moron. He emphasizes their facial features because he knows the first place you're going to look at are the expressions on those faces, and each of them are well defined and obvious. He tells a story through just that alone. And he sets up the rest of the scene to support his motives.

Comparing Rockwell's impact on iconic american artwork with a closeted concept artist is fucking laughable.

Good effort for calling Rockwell a beta I'm sure that's going to cement your argument.

Wake me up when RJ has something to say and is breaking out of his fragile-girl-looking-into-distance box. Mullins is light years ahead of him.

[Anonymous No.3231616]

>>3231598
Here, did a little more to clean it up. Shame about the camera:/

[Anonymous No.3231624]

>>3231615
I love napoleonic uniforms and the era so much, the aesthetics are out of this world

[Anonymous No.3231631]

>>3231448
>Good digital artists are better at traditional art than YOU are at traditional art because if they are good at the fundamentals of art, they will always be good at art regardless what medium they choose.

I love /ic/ weekends. Even I couldn't make this shit up.

[Anonymous No.3231644]

I would put Stalenhag in my top list. He may not be as good as Mullins but his images have a very nice sense of storytelling and atmosphere. And the minimalist brushwork is amazing.

[Anonymous No.3231648]

>>3231061
>fuck off with your shit taste

[Anonymous No.3231653]

>>3231644
this just looks like a photo with filters on top.
truly a sight to behold

[Anonymous No.3231658]

>>3231456
>He is a timid artist, he limits himself
where did all these "I know how Ruan jia thinks" shitters come from?

[Anonymous No.3231660]

>>3231653
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.3231662]

>>3231660
he's not wrong to be honest lol

[Anonymous No.3231666]

>>3231658
>how can people count 2 and 2 together without even knowing how to do advanced algebra xD
anything of his ever made you think "Wow, didnt expect this of him!" dont fool yourself

[Anonymous No.3231670]

>>3231662
You can tell he painted everything if you just look closely at the image.

[Anonymous No.3231674]

>>3231670
whats your point?

[Anonymous No.3231679]

>>3231448
You do know mediums aren't that easy to translate right? A good author might not be a good screenwriter, and a good violinist might not be able to play guitar. Same shit different art.

[Anonymous No.3231680]

Gold thread OP

[Anonymous No.3231686]

>>3231670
its literally his method tho. He takes a picture and then paints on top. The fact that no jpeg artifact is left doesnt mean that it doesnt show.

[Anonymous No.3231693]

>>3231679
No no, you don't understand. See, this >>3231448 smart anon here knows it all, has done it all, mastered everything. So he knows that if you have "fundies", you can do just about anything. A plastic pen and Photoshop are pretty much the same thing as a studio, isle, brushes, oil, canvas etc.
Don't you get it?

And by the way, oil painting is so easy. You gotta belief him >>3231510 >>3231498
It's as easy as opening the tube, getting your brushes wet and … done! Easy! But it's so shitty, why would anyone still paint with real colors? They are so expensive and you can't even ctrl+Z … What a dusty old thing!

[Anonymous No.3231697]

>>3231693
>isle
easel

[Anonymous No.3231987]

>>3228423
on a unrelated note. Am I the only one seeing some heavy similarities between that and this Jaime jones painting

[Anonymous No.3231989]

>>3231987
not really,

[Anonymous No.3232009]

>>3231987

Looks like he's been studying Leyendecker

[Anonymous No.3232025]

you guys are all such fucking losers lmao

[Anonymous No.3232041]

>>3232025
>going on an art board and complaining about art
Bitch we all fucking hate painting what do you want an award?

[Anonymous No.3232043]

>>3232025
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.3232046]

>>3232043
He's pretending the girl he likes isn't a painter who he's trying to seduce, literally the only reason any man has ever painted. He's special though I'm sure, he actually likes it.

[Anonymous No.3232063]

>>3232046
What even is this supposed to mean? what?

[Anonymous No.3232355]

>>3232025 (You)
no u.

[Anonymous No.3232475]

Tamplier / Dmitry Prozorov is the greatest digital artist around.

[Anonymous No.3232539]

>>3232475
Shots fired