/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.3220245]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>3216268

[Anonymous No.3220246]

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

[Anonymous No.3220262]

I want to fucking die

[Anonymous No.3220263]

[Anonymous No.3220264]

[Anonymous No.3220265]

[Anonymous No.3220267]

[Anonymous No.3220268]

throwback

[Anonymous No.3220271]

[Anonymous No.3220279]

What does it mean if my post gets no (You)s? Does it mean I'm too shit to crit or that I'm above /beg/ tier? Genuinely asking so I don't shit up the threads unnecessarily.

[Anonymous No.3220284]

>>3220279
You're not shitting up threads but the issues in your posts are not clear enough to easily see and your piece is not good enough to warrant a compliment. Please keep posting, even if you don't get critiqued. Also, when you feel comfortable with a fundamental, do not feel afraid to critique others. To get more (you)s, I would suggest pointing out things that seem off in your drawings

[Anonymous No.3220310]

>>3220284
ha, I was expecting to get bullied but instead I got actual advice. Thank you anon, I genuinely appreciate your reply. I'll keep posting.

[Anonymous No.3220311]

>>3220310
I took a break from /ic/ for 4 months and I feel like the board quality has declined massively. I wonder why that is.

[Anonymous No.3220320]

>>3220268

[Anonymous No.3220369]

>>3220267

[Anonymous No.3220372]

>>3220271

[Anonymous No.3220379]

>>3220311
what do you mean with quality?
Because this is beg so it's normal too see lack of fundies here.

Maybe your eye skill improved?

[Anonymous No.3220381]

>>3220379
No I mean everybody's rude, people make personal critique threads instead of posting in a general, more bait posts, bad advice and such. Maybe this is just my bad memory but I remember things being a lot better than this.

[Anonymous No.3220383]

I went back to this exercise from a month ago. I noticed lack of form so I tried to improved more.

I know I need to push more form with values.

[Anonymous No.3220384]

I haven't done a full render in quite a while, mostly been Loomis'ing like a sperg. Even though it's not great, this took a great deal of work to do, I hope someone likes it.

[Anonymous No.3220388]

>>3220381
You may be right, I don't know why people is like this. I'ts like they take art like joke and not serious.

I post almost daily here and I give some advice from my little experience, but most of the time I tell other what pros say because I don't want to be responsible for bad habits.

here is one of my studies.
>>3220383

[Anonymous No.3220396]

>>3220383
you're not /beg/ bud. also how much time did you spend applying colour in this?

[Anonymous No.3220421]

I didn’t use wrapping lines. I just wanted to draw
the lines.

[Anonymous No.3220423]

:(

[Anonymous No.3220425]

>>3220421
all the sutdy took me 1:30 h plus 30 today.

[Anonymous No.3220431]

>>3220423

why are sad? oh I got it. You are no satisfied right?

That is good, push your goals even further. Keep working anon.

[Anonymous No.3220439]

>>3220384
Know what? I like it, I can't draw hands...for now.

I think you like to see the wrinkles right? I would avoid that for now. And make the simple boxes in crazy perspectives. After a long period of studies I would make a final one rendered.

[Anonymous No.3220443]

>>3220439
Thanks! I lost the ref, it was somewhere in quickposes, but the wrinkles were very strongly visible and I just emulated it.

I am practicing boxes, loomis/proko heads, figure drawing, all that stuff. Trying to "feel" the 3D form, also a bit of hatching and ink.. I just did that render on a quick 20minute-ish drawing cause I just haven't rendered in so long and it's something I also wanna be good at, not an eternal sketcher.

[Anonymous No.3220456]

Anybody else kinda wake up mid painting and realize how utter garbage it looks but can't figure out how to fix it?

I've dropped two paintings because of this in the past 12 hours.

[Anonymous No.3220468]

>>3220372
>>3220369
>>3220320
spend more time with each drawing

draw calmly and with love, your lines are way too messy and seem mostly random, if you see lines or wrinkles or something in someone's face they usually are wrapping around a form

[Anonymous No.3220472]

>>3220423
i miss cute girls server.....

[Anonymous No.3220475]

>>3220472
rip in gay hell

[Anonymous No.3220478]

Drew this tonight kek can I also rip in gay hell im high af on dxm and that made me laugh real hard guy's ok thanks

[Anonymous No.3220487]

>>3220264

[Anonymous No.3220490]

>>3220478
Wow this is my first time using an acrylic medium and isopropyl alcohol and my painting is changing over time! This is the same painting a few hours later. Still tripping balls over here. Would love a crit

[Anonymous No.3220494]

>>3220263
First time for everything I suppose... this art stuff is hard, you weren't kidding!

[Anonymous No.3220495]

>>3220487
Just realised the thing is fucked, I was drawing at an angle and my sketch came out stretched vertically

[Anonymous No.3220519]

>>3220478
>>3220490
look up kandinsky

[Anonymous No.3220526]

>>3220384
what do you mean by that? How do you effectively grind Loomis? I'm still just rrading at this point.

[Anonymous No.3220539]

>>3220268

Hi guys time no posting here I always get mad and stop drawing I wish I were constant on this how's everyone doing?

[Anonymous No.3220540]

>>3220245
Ah damn didn't think i made the skull that smaller than original

[Anonymous No.3220545]

>>3220519
I just did and my mind has been blown

[Anonymous No.3220555]

Worked on this some more. Any advice?

[Anonymous No.3220556]

>>3220526
rrading?

Idk about effectively, but I've been practicing the Loomis heads and seeing Proko videos on the head slowly, bit by bit and practicing in between each bit

now I feel I am finally starting to at least understand the fucking method, and see the face in 3d a little bit, but I still have miles and miles to go to be actually decent at it

[Anonymous No.3220558]

>>3220487
wtf that's beautiful

please teach me the hatching way I can't grasp it

[Anonymous No.3220574]

>>3220263
>>3220267

[Anonymous No.3220582]

While doing gesture drawings I cannot feel the gesture at all on a static front facing pose, what should I be looking for?

[Anonymous No.3220620]

I already studied the perspective videos of Gary Meyer and now I'm mixing it up between Bargue plates and the Steve Huston book and I'm wondering if I'm biting more than I can chew here.

[Anonymous No.3220634]

>>3220494
do bargue copies of his human blockout sketches. works like a charm to train your eye and get you used to the tools. make an elaborate grid in the beginning and then gradually reduce the gridcount. also try to eyeball a lot of the stuff and then check your lines with a ruler to see how close you got by intuition

[Anonymous No.3220702]

[Anonymous No.3220704]

>>3220702
I don't feel like I got her likeness much :(

[Anonymous No.3220710]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

please watch this. it's worth the time.

[Anonymous No.3220734]

>>3220555

The right side of the face is higher than the left, you need to flip your image sometimes or this will happen every time.

[Anonymous No.3220736]

Critique please, not sure about the values.

[Anonymous No.3220752]

I just realized my passion for drawing is fueled purely by my own sexual frustration

[Anonymous No.3220754]

>>3220752
oh boy you are not alone there buddy

[Anonymous No.3220756]

>>3220736
your reference picture is lacking contrast in the first place

[Anonymous No.3220820]

>>3220558
If you're being genuine my hatching gets critiqued a lot so I don't think you'd want my adivice. I was recommended "drawing realistic textures in pencil" by JD Hillberry, you might get something out of it

[Anonymous No.3220877]

I decided to give Watts atelier stuff a try and boy its kicking my ass hard. I never touched charcoal pencils or values in my life (or seriously, at least), always been more of an ink/line type of guy.

Heres my day 1 and 2 (day 1 is left and day 2 is right) of doing basic shapes and trying to apply values to them.

[Anonymous No.3220880]

>>3220877
Heres day 3, not sure is my charcoal pencil good enough or am I just so shit. I feel I cant get the values dark enough.

[Anonymous No.3220887]

plz, /ic/ plz!!! tell me i got what it takes to move up. i've been at this for years and it's the only thing that keeps me going. will i mive beyond /beg/? pic related, it's my sketch page.

[Anonymous No.3220903]

>>3220820
I'm genuine, something about it strikes me really hard, it's very nice to look at. Your hatching is good dude.

[Anonymous No.3220904]

>>3220887
Draw bigger than your hand

[Anonymous No.3220905]

>>3220736
Although the original does lack contrast, it shouldn't be an issue because the light and dark values are quite clearly separated.
You need to pay more attention to how the value of a certain area relates to those around it. Also, your drawing has a gap in light values, you skipped to the highlight directly, where in the reference the highlights are actually very subtle.
The underdrawing is quite good and you mostly nailed the placement of the features. Unfortunately, if you don't have the right difference in values for the features you lose the likeness.
I did a partial paintover to illustrate my point about light vs dark and likeness. For example, you can notice that the eye shine is about the same value as the white of the eye.

[Anonymous No.3220916]

>>3220905
I like it. I know your model's eyes are actually quite sunken in, but that's what stands out on your depiction. Perhaps lighten the value on the defining segment and I'd like it even more.

[Anonymous No.3220919]

>>3220263
#1 rule for any artist is don't go fallin' for yer muse. But dam this girl's got an ass like an onionion. NOMNOMNOMNOMNOM

[Anonymous No.3220939]

>>3220245
am I doing anything wrong.
better yet, am I doing anything right.

[Anonymous No.3220940]

>>3220939
reference

[Anonymous No.3220949]

can't tell if it's jacknich or jimmy fallon.

[Anonymous No.3220950]

I haven't drawn anything humanoid in a year and I wanna regain my skills, critique?

[Anonymous No.3220954]

>>3220950
read the sticky.
start with the basics.
drawing furries isn't exactly a great way of learning hiw tp do proper anatomy

[Anonymous No.3220955]

>>3220880
never used charcoal pencils but those balls are not going dark enough

[Anonymous No.3220958]

>>3220954
Could you please just tell me what's wrong with it so I can fix it?

[Anonymous No.3220963]

>>3220958
Exactly, because it's a furry I can't really pinpoint what's wrong about, all I really know is that the legs and in particular the arms look weird.

Please read the sticky.

[Anonymous No.3220965]

>>3220939
>>3220940
anyone?

[Anonymous No.3220979]

>>3220965
6/10 human copy machines.

[Anonymous No.3220980]

>>3220963
Thanks anyway.

[Anonymous No.3220981]

>>3220979
I guess that's about average.
can't really pinpoint what I'm missing, it barely looks like the real thing no matter how hard I try

[Anonymous No.3220984]

>>3220965
If you had read the OP you would've resized the image. Also, thr quality of the attachment is really low, I can barely make out your lines.
If you didn't have the basic decency to send something legible, why should we help you improve?

[Anonymous No.3220987]

>>3220984
my mistake, my phones quality isn't particularly good.
I apologize

[Anonymous No.3221044]

>>3220734
Fuck I didn't even notice. Thank you anon

[Anonymous No.3221059]

>>3220634
I'm back, please explain what you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.3221065]

>>3219831

[Anonymous No.3221113]

>>3220905

Thanks for the paintover, you're the best.

[Anonymous No.3221188]

>>3220955
Yeah I figured as much. Thanks anon, I think I will get a softer charcoal pencil.

[Anonymous No.3221219]

>>3220877
>>3220880
proud of you, anon

remember to do hard edges as well as soft! a combination of the two really helps to define your work. get a pencil/charcoal that is both dark and able to make strong marks. not sure which one you have currently but in the lower left box in your first post, I can see some harder edges there, so that one seems fine, but you could go with a harder one.

I think also you could work larger, I can't tell how big your paper is or how much room you're taking up on the page, but from the marks it looks like you might be drawing smaller. If you draw bigger, it's easier to get a variety of marks/edges.

[Anonymous No.3221230]

>>3221065

>liquify

STOP

[Anonymous No.3221280]

Can anyone recommend any tips or resources regarding shading/light and shading?

[Anonymous No.3221283]

Anyone have any helpful tips for hair?
Or any critiques?

[Anonymous No.3221287]

>>3221280

[Anonymous No.3221297]

>>3221230
shhhhh

just liquify the pain away

[Anonymous No.3221300]

>>3221280
Sycra's video.

[Anonymous No.3221335]

pfuh, going a few days without any bargues is instantly noticeable. it becomes way harder to get back into it

[Anonymous No.3221340]

>>3220887
Hell that is sad..

[Anonymous No.3221344]

>>3221335

It's the same thing for everything. You didn't do enough to get that habit.

[Anonymous No.3221357]

How do you guys draw portraits using charcoal?

[Anonymous No.3221366]

>>3221065
hey, what's liquify

also, are you a wizard ?

[Anonymous No.3221369]

>>3221366
liquify is a tool to drag pixels around. I rearranged the face to match the proportions more closely.

You can be a magician too, just practice and be critical but still have fun.

[Anonymous No.3221413]

>>3220903
The way I did it in that one was first to block out values with a 5B pencil then afterward I went over it with a mechanical pencil stroked in the direction of the contour

[Anonymous No.3221437]

Took me a decade, it will take you less if you aren't completely retarded as I am. (Because I believed that shit about people drawing from imagination for many years)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRWnSPgOzHc

[Anonymous No.3221440]

>>3221437
meant for
>>3220887

[Anonymous No.3221443]

>>3221437

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bavZbQHbuOk

[Anonymous No.3221448]

>>3221443
Good music for the drawing playlist.

[Anonymous No.3221457]

>>3220950
>The pose is very static and plain.
Work on dynamic poses, or at least something other than "hands on hips"
>bent arm and straightened arm are same length.
Work on proportions, maybe study anatomy a little more.
>Furry
kys furfag

[Anonymous No.3221458]

>>3221443
>when bits of the music used for the video sound EXACTLY like Valshe's soundless voice
NANI

[Anonymous No.3221474]

Why I'm so good at copying from books but terrible at copying from photos? Why this keep happening?

[Anonymous No.3221478]

>>3220478
Tis the season and I have gifts to buy, 40 dollars shipped.

[Anonymous No.3221481]

Can someone fill me in on why drawabox is controversial?

[Anonymous No.3221485]

>>3221481
It misses some points that are better covered in shit like robertson's how to draw or ching chong gook's course, which it appears ripped from and autistic anons can't figure out the point of the lessons because autism, unrelated to the prior criticism.

[Anonymous No.3221488]

>>3220245
Just started again last week, what should I work on? I know the left pectoral is too long

[Anonymous No.3221489]

>>3221488
Less brigman, more vilppu.

[Anonymous No.3221493]

>>3221489
But everyone studied Bridgman at some point:(

[Anonymous No.3221497]

>>3221335
If that's a dude he looks way too feminine but I really like your lines anon

[Anonymous No.3221498]

>>3221493
It's not a complaint, just go the other way and work with blorbs instead of angles for a while. You don't have to stick with it, but the fact that I nailed your influence is the issue. Round things out a bit and get dynamic. I love angular brigshit, but you have no dynamism and throwing in some classical vilppu composition would put you in hogarth territory. Also steal some more mark making from various people, it reads too much like Leyendecker.

[Anonymous No.3221504]

>>3221498
Well the rest of the Bridgman figure makes this shit rather obvious.
What do you mean by mark making.
The photo doesn't read very well, shitty camera loses a ton of detail, it was more of a rendering study.
As for the roundness and studying vilppu, I will get on that.

[Anonymous No.3221512]

>>3221504
Mark making is the fancy word I just learned in art class for what you do with your pencil. The way you render looks like leyendecker. Not a bad thing, it just doesn't read like you. Steal from some more people. All I have is trash on this phone so you get what you get because my friends are perverts.

[Anonymous No.3221513]

>>3221283
Bumping for advice on this again...

[Anonymous No.3221518]

>>3221512
I did study Leyendecker before but not nearly as much as I could have picked up from him in that sense(I think)
Still, thank you breh, I will work on it.
Oh and don't worry, the shota will be our secret ;)

[Anonymous No.3221522]

>>3221513
I would advise you to drop trying to construct and do your own stuff before you didn't study your basics hard and long enough. There is nothing wrong in trying but you will not get anywhere with this piece mate. Just drop it and study, embrace the study, there is still plenty time to create your own stuff but it's not now

[Anonymous No.3221534]

>>3221512
is that a shota

[Anonymous No.3221536]

>>3221534
It's certainly not a Loli, my d/ic/k can tell

[Anonymous No.3221541]

>>3221534
Looks like a master sketch. Everyone take notes.

[Anonymous No.3221549]

>>3221522
Could you red line for me then? I know the basics and do study often, I also know that her mouth and hands are off and the composition is off but I really just need advice on digital drawing and coloring.

[Anonymous No.3221552]

>>3221549
There is nothing to redline. Do something from reference and then we'll talk.

[Anonymous No.3221559]

>>3221549
What this >>3221552 guy said.
I didn't want to sound cruel but this is absolute bullshit anon, in no way does it look like something that more than 2 seconds of thought went into.
You are so, so far from doing stuff like this in a satisfying and pleasing to the eye way. You should be drawing at this point, you are not cut out to create stuff from your imagination at this point at all

[Anonymous No.3221613]

how do i draw from imagination? it seems like the poses are just random and have no meaning to them. painted ones are from ref for comparison

[Anonymous No.3221615]

tell me why I suck

[Anonymous No.3221617]

>>3221615
draw what you see instead of what you think you're seeing

[Anonymous No.3221623]

>>3221615
analyze proportions
be less sloppy when you make lines
start with the overall shape first, then add detail

[Anonymous No.3221651]

[Anonymous No.3221665]

>>3221615
The top right sketchs' nose is an example drawing what you think

[Anonymous No.3221722]

How can I learn to place things more accurately?

I put this over the ref and turned opa down and it wasn't too too far off, but I missed lot and I really have a hard time with accuracy and placement. I did measure a lot and use construction and linear layin and stuff.

I really missed the rotation of her right shoulder going back a bit and that made the whole torso too thick, her left elbow should also be retracted back a bit,also made her a lil extra thicc, her left knee should be bent more and only her toes on the ground. tiddy on the right should be higher than the one on the left cause the way her shoulders are. They're also not the same size. I think her right leg should be more diagonal because the weight is on it, the hands also seem small because I must have drawn them zoomed in.

Only my second long figure drawing ever, I also haven't really practiced observing tones, shading, or rendering very much. halp me git gud plz bros.

[Anonymous No.3221732]

what are your thoughts about this? does it make you think of something? what?

[Anonymous No.3221737]

>>3221732
have you ever seen the movie antz?
do you remember the battle with the termites?
reminds me of that.
I like the warm color composition

[Anonymous No.3221753]

>>3221722
future renderfag

[Anonymous No.3221761]

[Anonymous No.3221763]

>>3221651
Her teeth look really wrong but I like the expression it creates for some reason, pupils also look misplaced and the left nostril seems like it's lower than it should be, it's in line with the right nostril when it should be on an angle from that perspective

[Anonymous No.3221765]

>>3221732
>>3221737
moar like ohmu from nausicaa

[Anonymous No.3221767]

>>3221613
need answer

[Anonymous No.3221771]

>>3221344
well i did figure drawings instead but its not the same as trying to do an exact copy of a bargue plate

[Anonymous No.3221776]

Mostly draw with lines, trying to start painting more. What am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.3221780]

>>3221613
>how do i draw from imagination
practice

[Anonymous No.3221808]

>>3221613
focus on detail and use reference for those, instead of using one reference for the whole work

[Anonymous No.3221817]

is there information how to aproach a clothing design?

I painted a character and the clothing is lame...

[Anonymous No.3221831]

Do you follow a particular artist's method for simplifying the torso? Have you developed your own forms that you implement in your drawings?

This is something I feel has a fair amount of variance to it, and it could be a matter of personal preference. However, I get the feeling that there's dos and do-nots when it comes to inventing forms to utilize in construction. I also feel kind of overwhelmed by the amount of resources at my fingertips - which ones are legitimate for what I want to do, and which ones aren't?

t. aspiring concept artist

[Anonymous No.3221844]

>>3221780
what i meant was how do i practice?
seems like i can only rarely project something from my minds eye, mostly just glue boxes and limbs together to make stiff meaningless geometric patterns.

[Anonymous No.3221849]

>>3221732
>does it make you think
not at all
it's generic fantasy concept art/illustration, something fit for video games or MTG
there's nothing wrong with that, but don't confuse illustration and fine arts

[Anonymous No.3221860]

>>3221776
Looks good so far, not enough to judge atm

[Anonymous No.3221865]

>>3220245
I'll gladly take any corrections into consideration; mostly on the guy on the right cause there's clearly something wrkng but I can't quite grasp what it is exactly. Sorry for shitty paper but I had too much time on my hands at my last day at work and couldn't find anything better to draw on.

[Anonymous No.3221880]

Trying to get better at seeing/drawing and values. Any thoughts?

Also, fuck Chopin and his wonky face

[Anonymous No.3221885]

dang

[Anonymous No.3221928]

>>3220268
Yes I did it in a post-it.

[Anonymous No.3221935]

Finished up all the videos on drawing fundamentals phase 1. I think I will go get some blocks from the toy store and practice these concepts for like a week or so and see where that lands me.
>>3221219
Thank you for the feedback my dude and also the helpful image. I need to read up on these terms, Watts just kinda says "yeah hard and soft edges n shit, talk bout that later yo" so I am a bit lost.

Funny enough, the one you mention (the lower left box in first post) is the only that's big, so I`ll start drawing bigger now (I use A3 size pad, you can see the size of the drawing from the cone.)

[Anonymous No.3221955]

>>3221880
Alright I'll bite. You are in the noob stage of shading, the feature placement looks pretty good but get some pencil shadings of artists you respect eg https://www.pinterest.com.au/jmcafee0485/andrew-loomis/?lp=true and copy their style. Your pencil strokes are too wandering and tentative. You don't draw like shit, have some line and shading confidence See how they put down pencil firmly, confidentally and block out shades and copy their shading style and you should see the improvement quickly (especially if you can get a sketch that has similar lighting and a similar angle). Good job, but keep working

>>3221935
You need to learn edge control, you feather your edges like you are pulling a cloud out of the sky and using it to blot your paper. See how sharp these edges are as opposed to fuzzy? https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2a/ef/3d/2aef3df1d69e85a8c348bcad0545d84c--still-life-drawing-basic-drawing.jpg

I wouldn't redo the exercise but I would keep this in mind. Otherwise, technically competent. Good job and keep working.

[Anonymous No.3221995]

>>3221280
https://youtu.be/9W80Lz0PNSI

[Anonymous No.3222013]

>>3220702
You made her look too much like an anime girl and not enough like an actual person.

[Anonymous No.3222015]

>>3221283
mess around with different brushes

[Anonymous No.3222058]

>>3221860
I'll keep working on it, thanks!

[Anonymous No.3222071]

I haven't drawn in years. Any tips?

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3222083]

How do you get better at painting stuff?

i heard alot about starting in greyscale and later doing color. that tru?

[Anonymous No.3222143]

>>3220245

My first one since I got a drawpad. And when I was done I noticed how shit my sky is but next one I'll try to do better.
Any tips for using Krita?

[Anonymous No.3222164]

God damn it, I just keep bouncing off all these books. Maybe it's just because being a gross NEET for so many years has completely destroyed my work ethic but I start trying to read them and maybe do the first few exercises, but I don't feel like my brain is actually catching on and I lose focus quickly. Not to mention when the book starts out with stuff at a toddler level but then suddenly jumps to skill levels way above what I can accurately replicate with nothing in between... fuck.

[Anonymous No.3222181]

>>3222143
pretty cool compositon
what i like the most is that there is no clear focal point so the eye just wanders endlessly in the very purposeful brush strokes

[Anonymous No.3222188]

>>3222181

> MFW not entirely shat upon
What brush would make an oilier look? I kinda want the ''caking'' thick oil paint feel.

[Anonymous No.3222192]

>>3222083
DId you paint that? It's a little soft but aside from that it looks neat

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3222206]

>>3222192
yeah I drew it, tnx :)

do you mean I should get more lighter lights and darker darks?

[Anonymous No.3222224]

>>3221955
Thank you for the feedback anon. Mayby I will move forward and returns this exercise later. I will definitely focus on the edges in the future.

[Anonymous No.3222229]

hello, what would you reccomend to observe / study if i wanted to draw something in the vein of Alien or Blame! (the landscapes)

[Anonymous No.3222237]

Just started drawing again after a couple years. i'm enjoying it a lot so far.

[Anonymous No.3222265]

This is a question for experienced anons,

How important is the approach for a painting?

Like the steps to make a landscape or a portrait or character?

I would like to know, traditional and digital.

Can you just make strokes and end with a finishing good illustration with not preparation? Or is not like that.

[Anonymous No.3222277]

>>3220919

Carlotta Champagne. Thank me later.

[Anonymous No.3222294]

>>3222181
>what i like the most is that there is no clear focal point so the eye just wanders endlessly in the very purposeful brush strokes

[Anonymous No.3222336]

>>3222206
Nah I meant that it looks like you used a soft brush to paint it or you blended all the edges together. Adding some hard edges where the planes shift would make it look better imo.

[Anonymous No.3222365]

>>3221935
I'll admit Watts can be a bit lacking sometimes when he's explaining things, I'm not sure if he's gotten around to explaining the edges at the point I'm at (building objs with basic forms in phase 2) but let me try to find a good video or resource for you that explains it

in the meantime, I took a bunch of refs of shapes for myself to study. they're not perfect but it's something to work with until you get your own sets: https://imgur.com/a/AZbk6

[Anonymous No.3222371]

a pose from the front with face hands and feet. my worst nightmare. but gotta tackle it to push forward

[Anonymous No.3222378]

I think I've gotten pretty decent at rendering from reference but i don't know how to move on beyond being a human photocopier, how do i start painting stuff from imagination using general reference for materials?

[Anonymous No.3222384]

>>3222371
What a neat way to do the skeleton, who'd you get it from?

[Anonymous No.3222386]

>>3222384
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA9o111IH1VD8Kxz0YLn8_A

this youtube channel has a 10part series on beginner figure drawing. their workflow has helped me a TON

[Anonymous No.3222388]

>>3222386
Thanks dude

[Anonymous No.3222390]

Sketch from imagination. Head is a bit far from her neck/body but is there anything anything in particular that’s a bit too off? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3222392]

>>3222386
This is real good improvement, especially for 2-3 months of work.

[Anonymous No.3222395]

>>3222392
thanks. bargue really paid off ( i am the guy who posts all these bargue human block out sketches)

finding a workflow + changing the way i see are probably the biggest contributors afterwards. its funny looking at a picture and seeing the 2d human figure as a 3d mannequin. helps me a lot to see photos this way

[Anonymous No.3222396]

>>3221935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEjKKiNjvBM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWl-M6gwVDM

http://muddycolors.blogspot.com/2015/04/10-things-about-edges.html

http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2013/09/hard-and-soft-light.html

http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2008/06/depth-and-edges.html

Maybe these can help some, but I'll try to explain and hope I don't sound like a brainlet.

Like what >>3221955 said, take note of how the edges of the forms look, mostly sharp and defined. That's reflecting the nature of the forms and how the light is interacting with them. Stronger light like in pic related will usually give you more hard edges because the planes of the forms have more light to reflect, the softer the lighting, the less apparent the forms are. The values are very important when it comes to edges. In hard edges, you will generally have a high value difference (or contrast) and sharper planes (the cube, the background vs the shapes, the table vs the shapes), and softer edges will have softer forms (the sphere, the cylinder) showing the gradual turn away from the light. When the values of two forms/planes are very close, the edge seems to "disappear" or are lost (the value of the table against the shadowed plane of the cube, the terminator of the sphere and the plane of the table). Most beginners will draw forms and values with very hard edges and usually ignore the backgrounds and contrasting values, but I can see some areas where you almost have appropriate hard, soft and lost edges. Just need a little more refining and careful observation. You almost have it anon, keep working!

[Anonymous No.3222399]

>>3221488
I can’t really tell from this pic but if you are, don’t push down hard with your pencil, move up a tone or whatever it’s called. Eg. 3B (to then go darker ) go to 4B etc.

[Anonymous No.3222418]

>>3221497
probably a side effect of me drawing thicc girls all day erry day

[Anonymous No.3222504]

20171201
https://www.systemax.jp/bin/sai2-20171201-64bit-en.zip
https://transfer.sh/fkN5A/saicrack.exe

[Anonymous No.3222510]

Doing Ctrl+Paint exercises on light made me realize how bad I'm at understanding light, picturing how cast shadows work is tough so I'd appreciate if someone could tell me if these exercises are wrong and what should I look out for? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3222514]

>>3222510
In these others specifically the cast shadow, I'm never really sure if it's right or wrong. Any tips on how to understand that stuff better or what should I look out for when trying to add a cast shadow?

[Anonymous No.3222520]

>>3222390
I think nose and ear are a little off, nose seems to be drawn in profile same as ear. I'd say practice noses individually, those are tough, try to draw them from every angle possible and the ear it's easier, just get used to the overall outer shape in various angles and you'll be good.

[Anonymous No.3222531]

>>3222229
I'd say draw plenty of ghost towns, abandoned buildings, shitty neighborhoods, and also big ass cities like Shangai and Dubai at night.. then you kinda combine them both with a bit of fantasy and metallic buildings.. that's the steampunk look pretty much.

[Anonymous No.3222538]

my god, please be fucking gentle. i realize that this "drawing" is incomplete and shit but I wanted to know if I actually did anything right with it.

i don't ever visit this place and i haven't read any drawing books. my only form of training was just drawing circles and cool shit until i felt it was passable. i feel like i peaked at what I can do myself though so here i am.

[Anonymous No.3222546]

>>3222538
First of all anon, calm down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7gyPjAjhys
Drawing is fun.
As for your drawing, your line quality could be worked on. Try to plan your line before you draw it, instead of drawing it, erasing, and then drawing it again. It's obvious that you don't know construction and you ought to learn the basics along with anatomy. Then work on gesture and you'll be good in no time!

[Anonymous No.3222548]

Tried a Simon Stalenhag study. He has a cool way of showing lots of detail with very few strokes, I think I just ended up making it look messy.

[Anonymous No.3222554]

Does anyone have any good paid or free courses for beginning digital art

[Anonymous No.3222557]

>>3222554
ctrl + paint my dude

[Anonymous No.3222560]

I have a very specific issue, and I'm hoping /ic/ can help me with this. I can draw a face, but when I try to draw the body, it comes out so weird. And when I draw the body, it's hard for me to draw on the face without it looking unnatural.

What do I even do to work on this? I'd give a sample of my work to emphasize but I am actually out right now.

[Anonymous No.3222563]

>>3222546
Thanks for the advice.

So, no more chicken scratch and no more erasing. Just one meanginful planned out stroke.

Now how do I begin learning the basics of construction? Do I just grind out basic shapes and just start combining them?

As for anatomy, do you mean like, me picking up like, a fucking surgical book? with skeletons and shit?

[Anonymous No.3222564]

>>3221340
Fuh Q!

[Anonymous No.3222571]

>>3222563
construction and anatomy, at first, are essentially the same thing. I recommend Steve Huston's figure drawing book for learning it. (besides Proko's vids) Also, pro tip: make your drawing as best as you can make it before posting. The critique will hurt a little more, but its well worth having a longer list of things to work on.

[Anonymous No.3222574]

>>3222563
Also read the /beg/ sticky

[Anonymous No.3222620]

This is supposed to be Yolandi Visser.
Struggled a lot with nose and lips.
Probably a stupid question, but should I keep practicing like this until I find it easy to get angles and proportions right or should I advance to shadowing etc while doing these?
(Shitty english. Sorry).

[Anonymous No.3222626]

>>3222620

[Anonymous No.3222652]

>>3222626
I am aware of this (even made the upside-down Stravinsky thing), but the image has some info I had forgotten/didn't know. Thks. I'll keep practicing.

[Anonymous No.3222708]

He is completely FUBAR.
First study in a year or so. I know it's based on a game character, but it was a face I wanted to draw.

I fucked up a lot but most of my time went into the face, how can I properly draw the eyes so that he's looking at you? I know it seems simple to answer but when I got to the drawing board I fucked up and it seemed like every time I drew his eyes he was looking towards the right instead of front.

Any tips? Mostly regarding the face, I know I half assed going with his clothes but wanted to make it seem somewhat more complete. Will post ref next. Also, I think rendering is also a thing I must work on, so I'd be open to that too.

[Anonymous No.3222711]

>>3222708
Reference.

I really just want to draw mature men better.

[Anonymous No.3222716]

am trying at this whole thing

[Anonymous No.3222728]

CSP EX 1.6.8 (Tristam/xforce)
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[Anonymous No.3222729]

This is just absolute garbage.
Will I ever be able to draw pretty girls?

[Anonymous No.3222758]

>>3222396
>>3222365
Oooh shit my dude, thanks a ton! Watts is a amazing teacher, I bet this is just apart of his master plan, but its good to study from different resources. I always save all the crits get and I will most def save this post, thank you so much for going out of your way to help!

I think you explained it well, I think I got the gist of it and I will do more studying with the resources you gave me!

I made a cone and cube out of paper, you fella think these would work for studying the basic forms from life? I think I will buy a wide wax cylinder candle for the cylinder and just a random ball.

[Anonymous No.3222785]

>>3222399
Did all of the values with one pencil

[Anonymous No.3222788]

>>3222378
You don't feel the form at all, this apple is 2d while it should be 3D, you just managed to copy the values/hues and you never developed a grasp over what you are drawing

[Anonymous No.3222792]

>>3222188
He is just trolling, you suck .
This entire thing looks like a smudgy mess, there is no skill involved in any of these brush strokes and it just looks like you spent maybe 20 minutes on this.
If you don't try how can you expect others to care?

[Anonymous No.3222794]

I own this thread now

[Anonymous No.3222802]

>>3222188
>>3222792
shit dude i thought it was obivious, now I feel bad
here's a good video that might help you with your paintings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fknSkyN6_0

[Anonymous No.3222807]

I'm broke so I decided to try to draw my family to as a present. Will they laugh at me for this?

[Anonymous No.3222810]

>>3222807
no, it looks nice. give it some simple colours too and they'll think you put a lot more effort into it

[Anonymous No.3222817]

>>3222807
Put some effort into the font, measure it out and align it

[Anonymous No.3222906]

[Anonymous No.3222908]

>>3222906
>signing sketches

[Anonymous No.3222910]

>>3222908
Look at this sketch, he either is completely up his own ass or just started, or a combination of the two.

[Anonymous No.3222921]

>>3222788
>this apple is 2d
maybe because it's on a flat fucking screen you retard

[Anonymous No.3222925]

>>3222921
It reads like some king of noneuclidean black hole in the middle of a piece of red paper.

[Anonymous No.3222932]

It took a little over 20 minutes to get to this stage, and there are still glaring proportion/ anatomy issues; even if I'm not going for a photo-real copy.

Considering it would still need to be inked and toned just to be presentable, my question is whether it's taking me way too long to build up a drawing.

[Anonymous No.3222940]

>>3222932
As long as you're not taking 2 hours to get there, you're gonna be fine.

[Anonymous No.3222942]

I have problems with proportions.

[Anonymous No.3222944]

>>3220263
>>3222942
Shit, forgot to reply.

[Anonymous No.3222946]

>>3222932
It takes time. I block out construction first and just start over if it isn't right by this point (this one isn't).

[Anonymous No.3222951]

>>3222560
What's the mystery? You need to practice anatomy, that's it.

[Anonymous No.3222964]

>>3222810
Thanks. I don't feel comfortable coloring everything yet, I'm still pretty bad at coloring.

>>3222817
too late :(

[Anonymous No.3222970]

>>3222626
This.THIS

[Anonymous No.3222971]

>>3222940
Fair enough. Thank you kindly.

>>3222946

tldr I'll try starting over during my figure studies today to see if that speeds things up some. Thank you.

Construction is a MUST for myself. Regrettably I don't "see" the drawing in my mind at all. It's more a feeling; reacting more than deliberate, despite my best attempt. However I do think that because I'm working digitally, maybe I'm spending too much time undoing/ tweaking. Add in my poor working memory, and you have a recipe for drawings that become an asymptote. It may be better for me to just redraw when I get stuck. Greatly appreciate your feedback. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.3222973]

>>3220268
Can't finish because already too many mistakes and can't do hair, but meh

[Anonymous No.3222984]

>>3222971
Yeah I don't see any process lines or construction. You have to figure out how you see the basic shapes to see if they're off. Once you do that, you don't have to put much effort in to them as long as they're right enough to keep you on track as you work into the drawing. Don't get hung up on them like weebs doing face construction or high schoolers drawing fruit bowls, but let the big shapes and sweeping gestures guide the process into detail. It pays dividends when you get into construction.

[Anonymous No.3222995]

[Anonymous No.3223004]

>>3222925
That's fucking terrible.
You're trying to criticize people infinitely better than you when you can't even draw a grid on a sphere properly.

[Anonymous No.3223006]

>>3223004
Just drawing what it looks like. You really don't see how flat it is?

[Anonymous No.3223027]

>>3221457
Thanks i guess. i honestly don't know why people hate furfags, but ok.

[Anonymous No.3223029]

>>3221283
Add more detail to the feet and body. Also i'm jealous of your water drawing skills.

[Anonymous No.3223031]

>>3222984
I'm struggling to articulate the question, so please pardon my spew. Maybe it's just a skill that comes with time, but my ability to eyeball the proportion of those major shapes (or anything really) seems to always be off by embarrassing amounts.

I'll post an example of what I mean. Over laid the drawing I eyeballed onto the reference and just moved him into the actual proportions /pose. And sad as it is, this is on of my better attempts. It's goddamn frustrating that I can't see that during the drawing process. And then you can only imaged how fucked it gets when just going from imagination.

So if I understand you correctly, in order to fix this issue, I need to work more from the larger shapes first? Like take the negative shape between his legs and use that as a mental measuring stick?

[Anonymous No.3223047]

How the FUCK do you shade in Photoshop?
Pls no bully the anatomy/hair/etc on the left, it was supposed to be a shading study.

[Anonymous No.3223048]

>>3223047
also, right was from 3 months ago

[Anonymous No.3223066]

I started drawing around a week ago. Will drawing random objects make me better?

[Anonymous No.3223068]

>>3223066
Yes. At this point you gotta start somewhere.

[Anonymous No.3223077]

>>3223068
>At this point
Oof, that's fair. I've been drawing around an hour a day. Should I step it up? And is it okay to draw images found online instead of things in front of me?

[Anonymous No.3223082]

>>3223077
read sticky and keys to drawing
Good luck!

[Anonymous No.3223109]

>>3223047
words like "shading" and asking how to do it mean nothing ifyou don't understand form and are just symbol drawing all the time

do a bunch of still lifes for like 3 months and you'll have your answer

[Anonymous No.3223110]

>>3223006
Your drawing is 1000 times more flat than anything I've ever drawn, stop acting like a master when you can't even do it better yourself.

[Anonymous No.3223111]

>>3222277
THX. Dubs cheq'd

[Anonymous No.3223113]

This is great! Just draw what you like and you will get there.

[Anonymous No.3223115]

>>3223110
Anon hes drawing your painting, not an apple.

[Anonymous No.3223118]

>>3220245
New study any pointers?

[Anonymous No.3223122]

>>3223004
Lmao, you think that I did this? I originally critiqued you. Stop getting so mad at the truth you dumbass, your Apple is fucking flat.

[Anonymous No.3223131]

>>3223118
his right pec looks fucked also why are his nipples erect

[Anonymous No.3223138]

>>3223131
Theyre no erect, it's gyno mate. Fatty tissue under the nipples due to steroid use

[Anonymous No.3223162]

>>3221488
pls teach me to render

[Anonymous No.3223180]

>>3223162
practice simple shapes/figures like cylinders, balls and other real life objects. Pay attention to soft and hard edges and lost edges too. pretty much all I can tell you

[Anonymous No.3223182]

>>3223180
Please explain the reasoning behind the directionality of your strokes, especially around the pecs. I understand for more curved areas like the abs that the shading curves with the form, but why go diagonal on the pecs? Is diagonal shading better for emphasising flat forms? It looks good and I don't know why

[Anonymous No.3223193]

>>3223182
The muscle fibres grow in that direction so it makes sense, honestly wasnt a conscious decision, it felt natural...as you said, following form is always the best bet for shading, it describes your shapes and gives them 3dimensionality, if you need anything else tell me. I hope it helps

[Anonymous No.3223209]

Hey I'm really struggling with tone, please halp

[Anonymous No.3223234]

>>3223027

>don't know why people hate furfags,

Not hate. More like disgusted. Like how most people feel when they see roaches.

[Anonymous No.3223237]

>>3221935
Are the edges any better?

[Anonymous No.3223250]

>>3222708
>>3222711
Still looking forward to any assistance.
I want to do this successfully.

[Anonymous No.3223253]

I fell something is off. Can you see it?

[Anonymous No.3223255]

>>3223250
you cant draw. Telling you anything other than practice drawing and practice your hand/eye connection would be pointless. Youre like some 1st grader asking how to understand Homer's works when you are barely able to write your own name

[Anonymous No.3223262]

>>3223253

Just go through with it and fix it as you progress.

[Anonymous No.3223269]

>>3223250
Ignore >>3223255 and focus this week on breaking down the face into simple forms. Google asaro head to see what I mean. Compare the Asaro with the heads of the people you are drawing. Don't worry about rendering every little thing, just try to see the simple, easy to replicate forms. Draw a ton of heads from every angle; squinting as much as you need to so that you can see those planes.

Try that draw (or another if you like) in one week and post it here. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.3223287]

>>3222510
>>3222514
I worked on another exercise, any pointers on what to improve on?

[Anonymous No.3223293]

>>3223255
I know I'm not there yet, which is why I'm in /beg/. I'm curious, how is my sketch different from anyone else in here that's sketching from reference that you had to specifically point me out like this?

Thanks for mentioning hand/eye coordination though.

>>3223269
Thank you. I really am in the need of structure.

[Anonymous No.3223310]

>>3223293
because you asked for it explicitly. I am not trying to sound like an asshole but its just that you arent at a point where someone can tell you anything that would help advanced artists.
You should just stick to copying stuff more or less, look how close you can come to the original

[Anonymous No.3223318]

wip so far

[Anonymous No.3223330]

is this snoke looking okay so far

[Anonymous No.3223331]

>>3223118
Today's torsi

[Anonymous No.3223336]

>>3223331
Other one was full of artifacts

[Anonymous No.3223349]

uuuuhh gonna take a real good look at prokos hair tutorial tomorrow

[Anonymous No.3223354]

>>3223253
I'd say take a picture of yourself from that angle, so you can see how mouth, nose and eyes are positioned. How one's face works in perspective is rather hard.

[Anonymous No.3223360]

>>3222995
luv it

[Anonymous No.3223365]

I'm learning how to use the watercolor tool on SAI. Any advices?

[Anonymous No.3223372]

>>3223066
Have you read the sticky yet? Learn to see and perceive the objects and shapes. Drawing is all perception. Exactly what >>3222626 said to me.

[Anonymous No.3223374]

[Anonymous No.3223387]

>>3222729
it could definitely be improved, but she doesn't look terrible to me. then again I'm a pleb, so it probably doesn't mean much coming from me.

just don't give up, anon.

[Anonymous No.3223399]

>>3220245

He looked like such an old crusty fuck in the SYL days now he looks 10 years younger I dont get it

[Anonymous No.3223423]

>>3221844
>>3221613
need answer

[Anonymous No.3223443]

>>3220268
feck it's hard to get this guy's expression down

also i have no clue how to people someone give me a hint i'm drawing them from shapes same way i do animals

[Anonymous No.3223448]

critique please

[Anonymous No.3223456]

>>3220456
Just finish it and then reflect on your mistakes, and on youe next one conciously make yourself avoid those mistakes and keep doing this until you dont need to

[Anonymous No.3223458]

If I'm too fucking dipshit stupid to bring myself to focus on these books and make a dent in beginner content, what beginner-tier youtubes are there that show step-by-step processes for the kind of stuff I'd otherwise be getting out of Keys To Drawing if I wasn't a dumbass and could actually absorb shit from this

[Anonymous No.3223461]

>>3223110
Are you autistic or just dunning-krueger?

[Anonymous No.3223463]

>>3223310
I asked for help on the face explicitly. Not for a condescending post saying I can't draw- it's obvious since we're in /beg/. The other anon at least had specific information regarding planes and simplification that I could learn from that was relevant to my initial post.

Don't know why you wasted time replying if you thought it was pointless from the beginning.
>not trying to sound like an asshole
I really want to know what your purpose for that post- if it obviously wasn't constructive, it was you being an asshole for sure. But in the end, I realize anybody can post anything regardless.

I've just had it with people like you who just shit on people like me that want to obviously improve. I avoided art for a few years because I felt I was too shitty to do anything and I took some criticism on /ic/ so harshly. Eventually came back with this year's Inktober that I made some pieces I liked, even posted daily in the /ink/ general and I figured to myself that I wasn't a lost cause, and I posted before the deadline every submission, even getting at least one compliment and some constructive criticism. And I found my passion in drawing again.

I'm not going to do the mistake again to prevent me getting better; taking low quality posts like your own into consideration.

[Anonymous No.3223470]

[Anonymous No.3223474]

>>3223372
I have read the sticky, and about surpasing "symbol drawing". Right now I'm having problems drawing lines the way I want them and actually keeping track of what I've drawn so far.

[Anonymous No.3223478]

>>3220263
This took me way too long to draw

[Anonymous No.3223480]

>>3220268

[Anonymous No.3223487]

>>3220245
did not expect to see devin townsend here, kudos.

[Anonymous No.3223489]

>>3223474
you seem to be pressing your pencil against the paper really, really hard.. you won't get nice lines that way

get a darker pencil, like 3B is good, and sketch very softly with many long, nice lines, then go over the shape once with a tiny bit more of strength

also printer paper is dirt cheap and it doesn't have lines.. with 10 dollars you can get a pencil sharpener, two 3B's, like 300 A4's and an eraser

the grey eraser is good it doesn't leave shit behind in your paper

[Anonymous No.3223492]

First time posting, would love some crits.

From what i see the lighting is fucked and so are the lines and the colors.

The lines are so fucked because Im a super noob at photoshop so to change the color of my originally black lines I selected all of the pixels on the layer and just colored over them.

[Anonymous No.3223493]

>>3223492
when you forget your image

[Anonymous No.3223494]

>>3223237
yeah, definitely seeing improvement! keep an eye on you soft edges, particularly around the cone's terminator shadow

filling in the shading more completely will look better, but that will come with practice and time

good job anon!

[Anonymous No.3223505]

>>3223489
Thanks anon! Do you recommend any brands?

[Anonymous No.3223516]

>>3223505
not him but mars lumograph staedltler is pretty good to go with

[Anonymous No.3223598]

>>3223494
Thank you for the crit, anon.
Yeah, I did not feel that much in control with the cone, I think controlling soft edges is harder(hehaheha) than the hard edges.

Can I ask what you mean with "filling in the shading more completely"? English is not my native language, so I sometimes have problems understanding some thinks.

[Anonymous No.3223601]

>>3223374
Well, you can do it better.

[Anonymous No.3223644]

>>3223642
>>3223642
>>3223642

>>3223642
>>3223642
>>3223642

>>3223642
>>3223642
>>3223642

[Anonymous No.3223655]

>>3223598
In the areas around your shapes, you've filled in the values really loosely, it's making your shapes get lost and looks a bit messy. Remember, contrasting/differing values of the forms create the edges!

[Anonymous No.3224498]

>>3223365
yeah, good on you mate but use Rebelle 2 instead. It is a much superior Watercolor program. Also, the best way to paint, always, is with a real brush, real paint, and a hell of a scanner.

[Anonymous No.3224855]

If you guys could point out my mistakes and give me a few pointers on how to improve i'd appreciate it. It's just a sketch so it's not like it took days to make. Thanks in advance!