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Why do we seek to be paid to do the things we love, when doing the things we love professionally can never be the same as doing the things we love in our free time?

>> No.3213217
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>>3213168
Just quit art you arent cut out for it

>> No.3213219

>>3213168
overanalyzing perfectionist i see

>> No.3213222

just make some art and sell it

>> No.3213228

>>3213217

>art can only be done as a job

wat

>> No.3213265

it's called farming

>> No.3213289

>>3213168
doesn't matter that it isn't the same.
it's close enough, and (can) get you some mad dough. or just a little dough.
for some lucky guys, the challenge of professional art adds a wonderful, enriching dimension to making art and they can enjoy it more than doing it in their free time.

>> No.3213298

>>3213168
One thing you get from making art professionally that you won't as a hobbyist, is knowing that your art is for sure serving a purpose, solving a problem, etc. Getting paid for your art is also an affirmation of it's value, and your value as a human being.

So, its good man, just do both, you can do both.

>> No.3213366

>>3213168
because if you're dead you can't do the stuff you like

>> No.3213369

>>3213168
People want to be paid to train. They should have sought out an art high school, like the one I almost went to. It was a weird Canadian Mennonite art school though.

>> No.3213396

>>3213298
I disagree. A hobbyist creating something out of his own pockets can create something more meaningful than a professional and vice versa. The amount of money you receive is not a solid way to calculate your worth.

>> No.3213408

I don't pursue a career in art because I love it, I pursue a career in art because that's where my skillset is. Enjoying it is just a side-effect.

>> No.3213415

>>3213168
People don't necessarily want to be paid for the things they love. They all want to love the things they have to do to be paid.

>> No.3213434

>>3213396
This. A person's worth doesn't come from what he's achieved. Producing objectively good art with meaning only leads to your higher worth as an artist.

>> No.3213435

>>3213396
Yeah, I don't disagree that personal work can be meaningful. You're unfettered by other people's agendas afterall. Commercial work can just be meaningful in a different way. I don't think if you receive money that you can measure the value of the art by counting the money, I'm just saying the fact you're being paid is a positive indicator.

>> No.3213436

>>3213434
>implying producing objectively good art isn't an achievement

Yes, to some degree, a person's worth comes from what he achieves. Your value is a negotiation with society, not something you get to judge by yourself.

>> No.3213442

>>3213436
Go to art school if you want to have bullshit theoretical arguments about the value of art. The rest of us have actual art to make.

>> No.3213459

>>3213436
That kind of thinking isn't healthy anon, I went through years of depression in denial because of this mindset. Life has no grades, objective good or bad doesn't exist. What matters is the joy you bring to yourself and those around you, and make the world slightly more positive with your work. Go watch some Bob Ross or something, his work is nothing special but it's brought so much joy to millions of people.

>> No.3213466

>>3213459
> Life has no grades, objective good or bad doesn't exist.

Cool, nihilism, awesome. I never said that your value as perceived by society is objectively correct. Maybe subjectively valuable things are still valuable.

> What matters is the joy you bring to yourself and those around you, and make the world slightly more positive with your work.

Bitch, why do all that if it isn't good? I thought obective good and bad didn't exist!? Way to contradict yerself.

> it's brought so much joy to millions of people.

Yeah, and the nigga got paid, because that joy has value.

Enjoy your nihilism. I'm sure you'll really escape your depression with that.

>> No.3213543

>>3213168
Money buys you power, status, and sycophants. People like money. Making money with the fewest enjoyable experience is a dream shared by millions. We also love doing what we want in our free time because it's preferable to work, unless that work is our dream jobs. In which case, free time would be rest and socialization alone.
You want to be paid to do the things you love because most jobs aren't that great. Free time is only more enjoyable when your job isn't what you really want to do most.

>> No.3213545

>>3213543
correction: "making money with the fewest unenjoyable experiences is a dream..."

>> No.3213548
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This is Michelangelo commission for church.
99% of Old Masters works are commissions.
This thread is shit.

>> No.3213824

>>3213168
I think its the best way to spend life, doing things you love and doesnt mean its always going to be cherries and roses. If you "love" (whatever that means to your little cretin brain) a person for example you also can not just sit back and say that its always going to be nice and fun. Shit that you dont put tears and sweat in doesnt feel good you feel me?

>> No.3213960

>>3213168
I work in a non-art field and just came back from 11 hours of work. I can see why an artist would rather spend his day being paid to do art, even if not the art he likes the most. It beats spending his life doing something else.

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3216431

>>3213466
>Cool, nihilism, awesome.

>> No.3216479

>>3213548
How many masterpieces are commissions in the 21st century?

>> No.3216623

I draw because I love it, but hey, wouldn't it be great to sustain yourself yourself with what you love?!

>> No.3216689

>>3216431
I suspect you misinterpreted my sarcasm.