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Does anyone know any books/resources that serves to learn to draw Catholic art/orthodox oriental icons? I did not find anything in the interwebz. Please and thank you.

>> No.3211356

>>3211354
ffs at least attempt it on your own first before asking for spoons

>> No.3211426

>>3211356
bait

>> No.3211427

>>3211354
I personally look for stained glass pictures and rearrange the perspective to draw a flat version

>> No.3211447
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>>3211354

hello anon you've come to the right place
I CAN tell you how to do it
but this is going to require some things:

-some trust on your end that you believe i may actually know what i am talking about -> in philosophy this is called "the defense of and claim to authority" ->
My point is, if you really want to learn, you will be learning from some anon on the internet, who is not a priest, not christian, but has drawn about ten thousand christ pantocrator s in various medias. (b/c my grandmother is russian orthodox)

answer the following questions

Are you christian? if no, that's ok
Are you religious? if no, thats ok.
Do you know what idolatry is? if no: the difference between an idol and an icon is that I do not worship the picture of jesus, I treat it as a "gateway" or path to focus on when I pray (to the actual jesus). I acknowledge that picture of jesus is not the actual jesus.
Do you know what the IC XC at the top of christ pantocrator means?
if no: greek for jesus christ, first and last letters
IECUC XPICTOC
yeh-sus hri-stos
INRI at the top of the crucifixion translates to "Jesus Christ, King of the Jews"

I'll keep posting more as time permits but for now i should post some art in order to prove im not talking out of my ass.

lmk if you have any specific questions so far

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>>3211354
>>3211447

anon start with" acheriopoetia " or "christ not made by hands"

supposedly this icon, when done correctly, draws itself, as if you are being guided. hence the term :not drawn by hands.

so when youre ready

write ic in the left corner
write xc in the right

don't overthink things and just copy what you see in pic related

dont focus on accuracy, or loomis, or being innovative.

just copy, so much of iconography is just about copying. the meaningfulness of the image comes through much much later, if at all.

then post it and ill help u from there

>> No.3211516

>>3211354
Look up fresco paintings, orthodox fresco paintings, etc.

Here's one I came across:
http://www.gsinai.com/fresco-painting-an-orthodox-church/

From my (very limited) knowledge this is a very dying art and, pretty much the only people who really go on to do this sort of thing are people who learn it in Russia and then go to various countries and do the frescoes in churches there (for good money).

Same goes for the church architecture, but I think Italians still have some of that market.

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3211526

>>3211447
Yes, I'm Christian (Traditional Roman Catholic)
Yes, I'm religious.
Yes, I know what Idolatry is.
Yes, I know the meanings of IC XC and INRI.

Thanks for your answer.

Btw, can I have the source of that pic? Google gives me nothing, it's really beautiful.

>> No.3211647

>>3211526

i made it yo

>> No.3211649
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3211649

>>3211647

ill dump some of my stuff then

-John the baptist

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>>3211649

christ pantocrator that ended up looking like my dad when he was younger (weirrrrdd)

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>>3211650

darker christ pantocrator

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3211652

>>3211651

one of the archangels i think raphael

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>>3211652

mary magdalene

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>>3211653

crucifixion stylized

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3211655

>>3211654

different crucifixion

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3211656

>>3211655

resurrection

>> No.3211658

>>3211654
>the minecruxifixion

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>>3211656

mater dolorosa

thats all for now

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>>3211649
>>3211650
>>3211651
>>3211652
>>3211653
>>3211654
>>3211655
>>3211656
>>3211659
Do you have a website where do you post all your stuff? This is great.

>> No.3211971

Bump

>> No.3211993

>>3211354
facebook com/jonathanpageau
this dude does it for a living, try asking him

>> No.3211995

>>3211447
It looks like anime.

>> No.3212008

>>3211993
>jonathanpageau
>The Metaphysics of Pepe with Jonathan Pageau

cringe

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3212074

>>3211447
You should not be making Icons if you are NOT Christian... you are supposed to pray as you paint or draw the Icon... it is not merely an art, but a literal form of prayer.

Here is an Iconographer that is ACTUALLY Christian (Greek Orthodox) and is making tutorials on how to draw and paint them:

https://www.patreon.com/ikonographics/

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3212144

>>3212074

yeah whatever bitch last christian died on the cross suck my dick

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3212146

>>3211695

this is me

but the joke is nobody likes the christian art

they just come for blacks on d.va

>> No.3212152

>>3211354
I will say if your not christian and are not saying the right prays People will get mad if you are selling. Recently a company in India has been accused of Hindu ritual around the icons deemed satanic and now are under pressure to close.

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3212153

>>3212074

You should not be making Icons if you are NOT Christian... you are supposed to pray as you paint or draw the Icon... it is not merely an art, but a literal form of prayer.

Here is an Iconographer that is ACTUALLY Christian (Not Gonna Orthmakeitx) and is making tutorials on how to draw and paint them:

https://www.patreon.com/ikonographics/

>> No.3212157
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3212157

>>3212074

also fuck you again

i believe in christ i just am not your mainstream christian

im coptic

"there have been no more so many wars as the civil wars in the kingdom of christ" "

fuck u playa

~~~#assumptionofmary

im coptic and jewish and shit on both religions

i pray and hope ur kidding yourself right now

>> No.3212254

>>3212157
>>3212146

You draw pornography, which is the iconography of the devil. How wicked!

At least your "icons" do not actually imitate true Icons, like >>3212152 "Monastery Icons" which this guy is referring to.

Lord have mercy on you, for you are defiling Iconography.

>> No.3212295

>>3212157
i am serbian orthodox and i really like this one

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3212311

>>3211354
Are you familiar with Pageau?
https://www.youtube.com/user/pageaujonathan

>> No.3212325

>>3212295
Pozdrav buraz

>> No.3212383

>>3212325
zdravo!

>> No.3212384

>>3212383
Kako ide umjetnost? Ja sam /beg/ af

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>>3212074
>>3212254

forgive me christian anons

i am

not the best christian

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3213229

Look in the mirror, see what you see
Be what you be, lonely you know
What you've done, let the sleeping play for fun
And we drink the water, and we drink the wine
We are the animals, and we are the swine
Let the keepers keep the time
Let the sleepers dream so fine
We read the notes placed in our hands
Forged in the sands, from distant lands
And let your hair grow and let them know
That the dreamers can still shake hands
But we live here now and it smells of death
And the youth is wasting the Earth's last breath
But we can still dream and shake our hands
And sing a song so grand

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