art gains

[Anonymous No.3197788]

It's that time of year again d/ic/ks
Post those improvements you've made over the year- or few years. Doesn't matter

[Anonymous No.3197800]

>>3197788
Did you regressed ?

[Anonymous No.3197804]

>>3197800
it's not mine- just some image i pulled off the twitter

[Anonymous No.3197908]

[Anonymous No.3197925]

>>3197908
you have a ways to go, but you certainly improved on defining your forms

[Anonymous No.3198057]

>>3197788
its worse

[Anonymous No.3198067]

>>3197908
still looks traced

[Anonymous No.3198068]

>>3198067
I disagree

[Anonymous No.3198090]

end me

[Anonymous No.3198096]

>>3197788
The one on the left looks far better. What happen?

[Anonymous No.3198107]

>>3197800
>>3198057
>>3198096
You guys have shit taste.
Shapes, forms, confidence and line quality all improved.

[Anonymous No.3198121]

>>3198107
this.

[Anonymous No.3198126]

>>3198107
Agreed. The right one looks much more appealing thanks to the round shapes giving it softness. She looks more like a feminine boy on the left.

[Anonymous No.3198129]

>>3198107
They baiting anon, of course the right is better in line and shape.

[Anonymous No.3198234]

Luckily only few days ago I made this

[Anonymous No.3198368]

>>3198234
much better but the legs and body look a bit wonky on the new one

[Anonymous No.3198372]

>>3198090
N-nani
This is an improvement thread not cringe

[Anonymous No.3198374]

>>3198090
This is a joke, right?

[Anonymous No.3198434]

>>3198090
I actually really like the second one. But yeah you gotta work on your anatomy. I know its stylized but you gotta get gud on knowing how the forms really work before you can play with them successfully.

[Anonymous No.3198436]

This is my OC. I've been learning how to paint in PS. How am I doing?

[Anonymous No.3198442]

>>3198436
Your newer one definitely has an edge when it comes to composition and "medium" (i.e. the brush strokes). The pose that isn't dead-on is much more interesting to look at too, and I'd say that's an improvement. On the other hand, I don't know how much I can speak for your actual construction, which looks like it could use some work still. Despite the fact that you've ditched the stereotypical anime style, it still feels like you've got some symbol drawing going on. Maybe that's just me. But hey, for 7 months you've definitely covered some ground.

[Anonymous No.3198456]

>>3198442
I've been wanting to get better at anime but I suck at line art, I've fallen into a more painterly style which comes from my desire to improve in art over all and it has bled into my more stylized art and I don't really mind. I see what you mean about the criticism; I am working on my edge control and I think that the appearance of symbol drawing comes from the low contrast in the newer one. I have a problem of having too much contrast or not enough.

[Anonymous No.3198459]

>>3198090
Nigga what the fuck

[Anonymous No.3198472]

added more to it this time

[Anonymous No.3198516]

>>3198436
Never use pure white for white, otherwise there's nothing left to make it look shiny.

[Anonymous No.3198521]

>>3198068

Disagreeing is not going to make it go away anon.

[Anonymous No.3198524]

>>3198107
>shit taste

The irony.

[Anonymous No.3198531]

Improvement could have been better through these years, I stopped drawing for months so many times, shit sucks man.

[Anonymous No.3198535]

>>3198531
2014 was best rip

[Anonymous No.3198537]

>>3198090
what happened

[Anonymous No.3198590]

cut my life into pieces

[Anonymous No.3198591]

>>3198590
Blog?

[Anonymous No.3198592]

>>3198472
your style looks familiar. do you have a blog? i might follow it already.

[Anonymous No.3198601]

>>3198592
It's Ilovebeds on tumblr

[Anonymous No.3198602]

>redrew a picture from late June
>actually regressed a little
Guess I'll just kill myself

[Anonymous No.3198610]

>>3198601
..you sure about that?

[Anonymous No.3198611]

>>3198602
post it

[Illastrat No.3198614]

2014

[Anonymous No.3198615]

>>3198610
oops my bad its ilovebedsart lol

[Anonymous No.3198618]

>>3198615
kek thanks.

also i looked through the people i follow and i think this was who you reminded me of
http://tovarisch-grazhdanin.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.3198727]

>>3198590
Thank you from graduating from those scratchy ass lines, it makes me happy whenever new people stop doing this shit

[Anonymous No.3198730]

>>3198107
>>3198121
>>3198126
>>3198129
I like the one on the left. It looks more campy and unique

[Anonymous No.3198736]

>>3198436
left is better
>>3198472
still nice but the colors in 2016 were awesome
>>3198531
2014 was the best
>>3198590
left was better but your linework improved.
>>3198090
sad

[Anonymous No.3198815]

>>3198067
Why do you say that? Neither were traced.

[Anonymous No.3198841]

>>3198472
>jojo and sonic

[Anonymous No.3199015]

>>3198531
You've made some really nice improvement, your understanding has vastly improved. Keep it up!

[Anonymous No.3199028]

May 2016 to Nov 2017. I need to reach League splash art tier.

[Anonymous No.3199035]

>>3198090
>Obvious 100000 layers trial & error portrait "painting"
>Actually drawing the whole figure and using color more conciously
Seems like an improvement to me, you stopped lying to yourself.

[Anonymous No.3199038]

>>3198436
Learn to draw properly.

[Anonymous No.3199045]

>>3199028
you do realize that any of the good riot splash art had multiple people work on them right?

[Anonymous No.3199051]

>>3199045
Since when? I know that wasn't always the case.

[Anonymous No.3199054]

>>3199051

... go look at the original posts of any decent splash art

[Anonymous No.3199058]

an abridged version - when you put these all together it's rather depressing

[Anonymous No.3199109]

>>3198531
are you sure 14 and 17 shouldn't be switched? That jump between 13 and 14 is enormous but after that it gets worse

[Anonymous No.3199112]

>>3199109
Maybe 14 was drawn over a picture or very carefully measured? that's the only way I can explain how 14 is better than 17. It looks more accurate to life anc cleaner compred to Anon's later works.

[Anonymous No.3199113]

>>3199109
I would assume 2014 is from reference, while the subsequent examples are drawing without reference.

[Anonymous No.3199121]

>>3198531
Really like 17, good job anon!

[Anonymous No.3199124]

>>3199028
>619kb
Why did you kill that man, Mysteryo?

[Anonymous No.3199127]

>>3199109
>>3199112
>>3199113
They are all from mirror, I don't know honestly, maybe it's because around 2014 I was doing a lot of studies, then around 2015 i spent a long time without drawing at all, also I'm not as good at painting directly with color I guess. I can admit 16 is worse than 14, but I thought I had picked up again in 17, at least I think 17 gets closer to how I actually look... fuck idk amigos just end my life.
I guess I gotta spent some good fucking time thinking about what I'm doing differently compared to back then, and just practice, thanks for the honesty anons.

>>3199015
>>3199121
Getting mixed opinions here, don't know what to believe anymore, fug, thanks though.

[Anonymous No.3199131]

>>3199045
I think only one person is doing the actual splash art, and another does the animation, someone else is doing the concept/ref sheet perhaps?

[Anonymous No.3199133]

>>3199127
Looks like you got lucky with that one in 2014 is all. Comparing your "best" work over the years can be misleading because a lot of the time you might not even be aware of what made it look good in the first place, it's an outlier and you shouldn't judge yourself based on it. It looks like you made real progress in understanding the structure of the face and rendering, especially between 2016 and 17.

[Anonymous No.3199161]

>>3199127
2014 looks the best because it looks like it was more planned out and closer to being finished, but also doesn't use color and has more 'cheats' like hiding parts of the head in blurry darkness or under facial hair. Also, the light sources are totally different.

[Anonymous No.3199175]

>>3198531
>>3199127
you can draw well, but you need to work on your edges. 2014 looks good because the balance of soft and hard edges brings the focus to the eyes. 2017 has very hard edges on the outlines of forms, and very mushy blending inside them. contrast everywhere, focus nowhere.

[Anonymous No.3199757]

Link because very furry, 2017 and 2015(-2014)
https://i.imgur.com/qMIKAnz.jpg

[Anonymous No.3199768]

>>3197788
Left is aesthetically better IMO. Right looks like tumblr shit.

[Anonymous No.3200029]

>>3199768
Are aesthetics and style the same thing? I feel like you're talking about style. The "aesthetic" is worse on the left I think (washed out colors, uniform lineweight)

[Anonymous No.3200105]

>>3198736
>left was better
Why? Because of his style?

[Anonymous No.3200131]

[Anonymous No.3200132]

>>3200131
>tfw left was already appealing
>right just further capitalizes on it
Just how did you get so good?

[Anonymous No.3200133]

>>3199058
Pretty cool how'd you learn to draw this kind of shit

[Anonymous No.3200201]

Still doesn't earn me money.

[Anonymous No.3200260]

>>3199127
>>3199175
this

the edges ruin 2017

it looks simultaneously over-polished and underdeveloped

[Anonymous No.3200270]

>>3198234
I think you should work on trying to render different materials because her sweater is drawn like its made of bubblegum

[Anonymous No.3200278]

>>3200201

>Still doesn't earn me money.

I WONDER why...

[Anonymous No.3200283]

>>3200278
Yes, why? Isn't critique the point of the thread?

[Anonymous No.3200307]

>>3200201
>>3200283
Hello friend the reason why your art isn’t making money is because it’s a flat head on portrait without skin color. It’s got s dark theme and I’m going to tale a leap of faith and make the assumption that you do not have a thriving: Deviantart, Instagram, Artstation, Tumblr or facebook page. Nor that you have put in effort to promote yourself om said pages. You have also probably not gone to conventions / art related events such as GEC, CTN.

What you want to do is make a solid foundation of content which appeals to people. The hysteircal person would cry Fan Art but simply making appealing content is enough. Like: Noah bradleys bright environments, Tyler Edlin, Loish, Ilya, Sakimichan (Reeeeeeee I know), Zeronis. You don’t have to do what they do but all of these guys make bank. Why not apply some of their tricks to your tastes?

[Anonymous No.3200318]

>>3200307
Thanks for a detailed reply, it really means much. I'm currently at the point of my life when I don't really know if I should continue to advance my skills the way I did earlier; and the whole situation makes me sad.

Sadly, it isn't in my power to attend art-related conventions, because I live overseas in russian Mordor. Money is a problem here, especially for a student.

However, I do have DA, Tumblr and VK (russian Facebook) accounts, and I update them every time I really like what I've drawn. Will Instagram and Artstation make any difference on a big scale and should I even focus on a big scale from a current point of view?

Is the pic I've attached better in terms of color palette? I've noticed that people like it better than the last one.

Overall, thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.3200330]

>>3200318
Why not just draw fanart, dude?

[Anonymous No.3200334]

>>3198234
How did you get so good?

[Anonymous No.3200340]

Eh not sure if I’ve really gotten better lol

[Anonymous No.3200342]

>>3200318
you need to offer something unique and marketable.

right now you aren't doing either.

nobody really cares about generic female portraits unless they're either

1. absurdly well painted
2. good design
3. attached to an IP people care about
4. sex appeal

[Anonymous No.3200362]

>>3200318
Hey again friend,
You are most welcome.
Instagram would make a huge difference. Twitter too actually.

The pallet is better but look at overwatch and Marvel female fan art. They tend to go for warm skin colofs and cool backgrounds (Orange skin, Light pink and bright blue backgrounds).

[Anonymous No.3200366]

>>3200318
I realy like the colors of this.

[Anonymous No.3200368]

fun to make.

my figures are still pretty shit but have been having fun this year doing some client work and experimenting with styles/approaches in my free time

[Anonymous No.3200381]

i'm not where i wanted to be by the end of the year, but at the very least, i'm a little bit closer to making a comic that doesn't suck

[Anonymous No.3200384]

>>3200131
that pose...

[Anonymous No.3200385]

>>3198531
Idk what everyone else is smoking but 2014 looks the best because you photomashed it

[Anonymous No.3200401]

>>3200368
You be my art friend and lets make gains and learn from each other plz

[Anonymous No.3200411]

>>3200401
o-okay

add me on discord taylor#7125

>>3200385
doesn't look bashed

[Anonymous No.3200412]

>>3200340
you fucking killed a nice style

[Anonymous No.3200413]

>>3200381
You stopped doing tumblrshit, nice.

[Anonymous No.3200450]

switched from sai to ps, my color theory improved hopefully

[Anonymous No.3200452]

I can already spot a bunch of problems in the July picture but my tablet is broken so just take this

[Anonymous No.3200465]

>>3200413
ive grown pretty attached to korean artists lately
that might have something to do with it

[Anonymous No.3200467]

>>3200340
Last years' drawings are much more appealing

[Anonymous No.3200471]

>>3200452
still scribble-tier, but at least youre not forcing a style anymore

>>3200450
2017 looks like you actually tried- which is a good start. keep doing that anon

>>3199058
really like your stuff but i really REALLY wish youd ease up on shading with black. tint it just a little? please

[Anonymous No.3200477]

>>3200450
i think you should do a 10 hours+ painting

also draw my retarded tetsu pepe edit already

[Anonymous No.3200479]

>>3200477
I agree with this anon

project based drawing is great

[Anonymous No.3200496]

>>3200465
Which Korean artists?

[Anonymous No.3200505]

>>3200201
Despite all that fancy stuff it looks flat. It's too dark also. Main focal point should be on her face, not that thing on the left. Try to work on interesting lighting use it to give your work some character, bring attention to main points like figure or in this case face or facial features. Try looking how professional artists use lighting.
>>3200318
This also looks flat. Especially hair, lips area on the far side if the face, nose bridge area. I don't know if this intentional, but that areola-crown thing is completely out of perspective and doesn't work at all. Also neck needs to be brighter with this lighting, even with hair and collar around it, there still will be lighter areas. I think you should work harder on lighting, also spend more time observing, look on references, photos with similar angles, look how lips are shaped, how shadow can add more depth, stuff like this. Observe and compare, use more references, there's nothing wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.3200512]

[Anonymous No.3200521]

>>3200496
i follow artist i like- i just noticed that most of them happen to be korean.
pigeon666 is the most noteable though- pic related

[Anonymous No.3200533]

>>3199028
Got a wider range? One year is a bit too short of a time span.

>>3199058
Good to see you starting to experiment with different poses/angles. Can't wait to see what'll come in the future.

>>3200381
Went from flat and boring to dynamic and appealing. Excellent stuff, anon.

>>3200450
Can definitely see the improvement, keep it up.

>>3200512
Loving it. Definitely quite the improvement.

[Anonymous No.3200543]

>>3198368
>>3200270
ty for the feedback, I will definitely note this and fix these things.

>>3200334

I would say there are few things that I have done, that helped me very much in those 3 years, thought I stopped drawing for a half year every year so my growth was bit stunted.

1. Watch your favorite artists and learn anything you can from them, techniques, color schemes sometimes even the feel or the flow of their artworks. Build your visual library as much as you can (Pinterest is your best friend in this)/

2. Draw. Do something you are good at and add a challenge.(I'm good at faces, so I drew a full body, hence the wonky legs)

3.Always take a notice at the feel of your drawing and make the viewer feel it. do whatever it takes/

Idk if this is the right way, but it helped me.

Pic is one of my earlier drawings (I know the anatomy sucks hard), but at that moment I mostly cared about the feeling it was going for

[Anonymous No.3200560]

>>3198372
>>3198374
>>3198459
>>3198736
eat shit :^)

>>3198537
laziness & not drawing

>>3199035
At least I got that lol

>>3198434
yeah you're right, I never really got into anatomy... Is the sticky reliable for learning that ?

>>3197788
>>3197908
>>3198234
>>3198472
>>3198436
>>3198531
>>3198590
>>3199028
>>3199058
>>3200131
>>3200201
>>3200368
>>3200381
>>3200450
>>3200452
>>3200512
nice

[Anonymous No.3200563]

>>3199035
There's nothing lying about the former. It's just obviously more time spent resulting in a better painting.

[Anonymous No.3200575]

It seems I had to sacrifice my ability to color in order to finally realize I CAN LOWER THE FUCKING BRUSH SIZE. (Still I think I did a decent job for an hour long redraw).

I still have not had the realization that teaches me how to not symbol draw hair when I'm doing lineart.

[Anonymous No.3200576]

>>3200368
the nude model in the bottom center looks like brian

[Anonymous No.3200579]

>>3200576
You're right, it does.

[Anonymous No.3200581]

>>3200575
Surprised that the people who draw left can improve to become right. Usually they get stuck doing left forever.

[Anonymous No.3200583]

>>3200581
"improve"

[Anonymous No.3200595]

>>3200381
upper right drawing is so cute i like it

[Anonymous No.3200597]

>>3200133
>draw this kind of shit
Just draw what you like, and study what you like. I like mechs and girls = girl robot butts

>>3200471
>shading with black
I keep defaulting to the gray tone markers when I can’t figure out how to darken across multiple colors. Also my scanner is super washed out so I have to boost the contrast in PS. I’m open to any tips...

>>3200533
>different poses/angles
I didn’t even notice, they all look the same to me...

[Anonymous No.3200617]

>>3200384
the deepest lore

[Anonymous No.3200621]

>>3200384
They're not even remotely similar you maniac

[Anonymous No.3200631]

Some of the drawings I actually invested a lot of time into this year, I thought I would have more throughout the middle of the year. Looking back. I feel like I should've pushed myself harder.

[Anonymous No.3200633]

[Anonymous No.3200637]

>>3200633
who is the brown hair girl in the 2014 pic? cool art btw

[Anonymous No.3200638]

>>3200637
christ chan

[Anonymous No.3200641]

>>3200633
There's no way you fucking drew her, if you did I the k you

[Anonymous No.3200643]

>>3200641
I have the original sai files if you care that much

[Anonymous No.3200653]

>>3200643
Show them now please

[Anonymous No.3200656]

>>3200653
here's one

[Anonymous No.3200657]

>>3200633
Updated Christ-chan when

[Anonymous No.3200658]

>>3200656
DEUS VULT

[Anonymous No.3200659]

>>3200656
You are my hero, is there any chance i can see her in black lingerie

[Anonymous No.3200661]

>>3200659
Is there any chance that you can stop being a degenerate heathen?

[Anonymous No.3200662]

>>3200657
How's this for a start?

[Anonymous No.3200664]

>>3200661
Please, I'll even commission you

[Anonymous No.3200665]

>>3200664
wasn't me but I don't do that with christ chan out of principle, nothing personal

[Anonymous No.3200666]

>>3200662
Very very cute

[Anonymous No.3200668]

>>3200664
Get a real christian waifu ffs

[Anonymous No.3200674]

>>3200662
Hey kid, wanna make some money?

[Anonymous No.3200677]

>>3200674
I'm awful at following thru with commissions

[Anonymous No.3200687]

>thread turns into a christ-chan thread
why.jpg

[Anonymous No.3200688]

>>3199028
How do you blend the paint?

[Anonymous No.3200690]

>>3200687
A city that is set on a hill
cannot be hidden. Nor do you light a lamp and put it under a bushel, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.

[Anonymous No.3200691]

>>3200659
here's another character in a swimsuit, pls accept
>>3200687
imsorry.png

g'nite nerds

[Anonymous No.3200696]

Im fucced

[Anonymous No.3200698]

>>3200696
Why no 2017

[Anonymous No.3200700]

>>3200691
>here's another character in a swimsuit, pls accept

Idk, do you have an art gallery? I'm only asking because I need a better grasp of what you can draw

[Anonymous No.3200703]

>>3200698
2016 starts at november. After that, it's 2017 from January-October.
Ye i'm fucced. My development if fucked

[Anonymous No.3200707]

>>3200703
chill dood yer doing fine

[Anonymous No.3200709]

>>3200707
Do not do this to him anon. You know full well that crabbing will get the both of you nowhere.

>>3200696
It's shit. Give up now before you waste any more time.

[Anonymous No.3200759]

I mostly draw for fun, my pages can get rather filled lately since I've been running out of paper and don't really have the money to buy more sketchbooks.

[Anonymous No.3200766]

>>3200703
>>3200696
Friend, I suggest you draw anime girls for one hour per day from now on. If that makes you happy and enjoy this. That’s your reward time. Your progress is honestly not optimal but on a positive note you have overcome a lot of beginner problems.

In essence if you want to impeove steadily as an artist (Because you aren’t at the moment). You’re just trying random things and seeing if you get lucky.

Perspectice, Anatomy, Photostudies (No color picking, Make it as accurate as possible). Greyscale your reference image and paint it in black and white.
The more accurate you can get it the better you get at observing and recreating surfeces and objects in the software.

Recommending you more different fundamentals to study or telling you to quit drawing manga girls would both be pointless. If you don’t like this advice just ignore it. No skin of my back

[Anonymous No.3200799]

>>3200766
Thanks man, that was really helpful.
I think the only thing hindering me right now is that I literally have no paper or pencil and that I can only draw with my fingers on a 5 inch phone, digital only this entire time.
Of course I no longer neglect my /beg/ excercises unlike during the middle months, but grinding is taking its toll on me especially on this shitty phone. Thanks again.

>>3200709
No giving up, sir.

[Anonymous No.3200952]

>>3200799
Eeeeh I don't know about all that photostudies and shit, just practice anatomy figure studies. You learn perspective and shit from that stuff too.

[Anonymous No.3200965]

hows my progress /ic/

[Anonymous No.3200993]

1/2

[Anonymous No.3200997]

>>3200965
but you are still drawing FNAF. So wheres the process?

[Anonymous No.3201004]

>>3200993
2/2

[Anonymous No.3201007]

>>3199131
No multiple people work on splash arts, sometimes 3-5 people at a time.

[Anonymous No.3201012]

>>3201004
seems like you stopped growing in 2015 and you've stayed in a similar style without exploring your limits or going beyond. some of the illustrations and coloring is nice, like the june piece, but your perspective skills seem to be lacking and a lot of your people have a very tumblr/formulaic look to them. the poses are very static. it also doesn't seem like you've finished many things recently. your most recent image from may has all sorts of anatomy problems, it looks like you tried to jam 2-3 poses together.

[Anonymous No.3201092]

>>3201012
Stop calling anything slightly stylized "tumblr" style. Tumblr style is pic related and we can all agree it's gross, but >>3201004 does not have "tumblr" style, I think it's nice and could look amazing if polished.
I agree with everything else you said though, except that I think he did improve from 15 to 16. Try doing more finished things, seems to be what's holding you back currently.

[Anonymous No.3201096]

>>3201092
>>3201012
thanks for the critts bros, im trying to do more finished stuff now.

[Anonymous No.3201134]

>>3200965
good improvement

[Anonymous No.3201270]

>>3200131
nice!

[Anonymous No.3201406]

i need to study the basics and thing like that, but i keep avoiding it

[Anonymous No.3201411]

>>3201406
As lovingly as possible, I say this.
I mean, caressing your face and rocking you on my knee while we listen to the cars go by and watch the sun set into an orange purple gradient that blankets us in the evenings.
Dealing with your stank ass breath for a kiss goodbye before work in the morning, i say this.

STOP AVOIDING IT. Just slowly work through basics. Don't overload yourself and keep drawing for fun. You will love yourself for the studies. You and I have similar tastes, so I know this. Dark souls, plague doctors, and I think Creepy Susie? We have similar guilty pleasures. So I know that you want to draw all this cute and cool shit. So study. You can draw cooler shit sooner. And better.

TL;DR: Study, keep doing what you love to do as well. I love you anon, I want to see you go far.

[Anonymous No.3201430]

>>3201411
thanks for the kind words anon, and yes, is creepy susie, i started to draw thanks to her and ougi, is good to know someone has the same tastes

[Anonymous No.3201519]

>>3201411
Not same but
>study
>not even sure what to study or how to "study"
>feel stuck forever
And yes, I know, loomis, but even that I end up with more questions than when I start.

I probably won't make it, but I just don't get it.

(That or me being ESL is a bigger barrier than I imagined.)

[Anonymous No.3201580]

>>3200340
Why choose such degenerate edgy bs over a nice aesthetic style?

[Anonymous No.3201700]

>>3201519
Honestly I think Loomis only goes so far. I could only stomach him up to the realistic head construction of Fun with a Pencil, sorry Loomis fags. I'd recommend the first ~2 lessons of Draw a Box, and to grind them pretty hard, and from there it's trial and error. Find a YouTube channel or a book you jive with. I love Steve Huston, for instance, but a lot of his amazing lessons are behind a paywall on NMA (he has a full 3 hour lecture for head drawing on YT tho). I think that being attached to an artist you are learning from matters, so even though some people might not see him as great, I might be able to learn more from Sinix than Sycra (lol) or anyone else who tries to teach more than Sinix. Also, of course you have to study the art you want to draw like, too.

Anyway, don't give up Anon, art is hard and part of the journey is figuring out how to travel.

[Anonymous No.3201766]

>>3201700
By grind hard, how hard do you mean? Days? Months? How many?
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.3201789]

>>3201766
Until you feel confident with the skills you have from those lessons. They are deceptively easy skills, that will last forever. You will be drawing lines, boxes, constructive shapes, and organic shapes. Once you hit the point where you can draw them out of your head pretty easily from most any perspective then you can move on. No one else can judge your confidence for you so you can figure that out.

[Anonymous No.3201819]

>>3201700
post work

[Anonymous No.3201901]

>>3198535
>>3198736
>>3199109
>>3199121
>>3199175
>>3200385

ofc 2014 looks better than 2017. he wasn't learning how to use color then. plus it's blurry af.

[Anonymous No.3201914]

I realize I really need to start pushing myself to improve since there isn't much in between these besides style change and coloring. I could make a ton of excuses about quitting art ten times, but I think the real issue is I don't push myself.

[Anonymous No.3201920]

well what is progress anyway

[Anonymous No.3201925]

>>3201914
It's okay as long as you've realized that you need to work hard. I didn't start pushing myself until this year.
I really like the girl on the right in 2017's pic by the way. I think once you start the grind you will be unstoppable. Good luck and have fun!

[Anonymous No.3201942]

>tfw drew almost every day this year and haven't improved
I want off this wild ride.

[Anonymous No.3201944]

>>3201925
That's true. Thank you for the encouragement. Good luck to you as well!

[Anonymous No.3202007]

I just stopped trying at some point

[Anonymous No.3202039]

>>3202007
Found some older stuff

[Anonymous No.3202072]

>>3202007
this is nice progress

[Anonymous No.3202084]

>>3201901
the improvement doesn't look like close 3 years of difference at all. Obviously hes not painting the entire time or else it would show but its not just the colors changes.

he got super lazy with his edge control in 2017 in some spots while overblending in others.


He's not giving it a consistent treatment like he did in 2014.


also "blurry" just means he needs to stick a few razor sharp edges in a few spots on the face instead of just on the side

[Anonymous No.3202087]

>>3201942

I'm sure you've improved in some way, post some stuff to compare. If you really haven't improved, at the very least we can point you in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.3202091]

>>3200512
How do you do your hair? My technique is very lame.

[Anonymous No.3202097]

>>3200677
What lead/ pencil are you using to draw?

[Anonymous No.3202107]

>>3202072
Thanks, nice anon

[Anonymous No.3202157]

It was really fun looking at my really old stuff

[Anonymous No.3202172]

>>3198090
mercwip

[Anonymous No.3202187]

>>3202157
Cute 2014
Draw some more awesome cityscapes like the clock tower one

[Anonymous No.3202189]

Jesus fuck
I should not have come into this thread
This is too depressing

I feel like I'm better then this

[Anonymous No.3202191]

>>3202007
so this is the absolute state of /ic/
>>3201942
post work

[Anonymous No.3202196]

>>3202007
>>3202039
>tfw this anon has much better of an understanding of appeal than you do despite how much you study and draw accurately
/ic/ is the biggest scam

[Anonymous No.3202246]

>>3199028
>furry shit

never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.3202271]

>>3198531

Ben Shapiro?

[Anonymous No.3202278]

>>3202196
Designing things that are appealing literally just comes down to having variety in your shapes (small medium large) and have the all the shapes make the eye flow through the image (composition). Learning how to draw accurately can make your drawings more believable (which can add some appeal in a technical sense), but it won't necessarily make your drawings appealing from a design sense. /ic/ is not a scam, you're just shit at drawing with shapes.

[Anonymous No.3202301]

>>3202191
Don't know about the absolute state of /ic/ because it's my first time posting/visiting the board, but I think you didn't like my drawings, sry

>>3202196
I just try drawing qt grills in few minutes because I'm lazy, anon, don't be so harsh on yourself. I'm sure you are a lot better than me and will get the "understanding of appeal" that you want, sooner or later!

[Anonymous No.3202306]

First year drawing.

[Anonymous No.3202307]

>>3202306
Stick 2hu

[Anonymous No.3202310]

>>3202196
/ic/ is a cesspool for actually learning, the mentality is shit.

ask p much any industry artist and they will tell you to avoid it like the plague

[Anonymous No.3202320]

>>3202310
which industry artists have even mentioned /ic/?

[Anonymous No.3202328]

>>3202320
most people know about it.

not going to speak about it publicly though. Just a few I've talked to privately with and it came up.


I think peter morbacher mentions /ic/ in his podcast a few years back, and was giving a mixed opinion on it, while his co-caster was completely trashing it lol.


I just know /ic/ obsesses over studies far too much, and only a small % actually spam creative/project based learning which is where a major chunk of your work should be (after beginner level)

[Anonymous No.3202338]

>>3202328
I'll believe it when I see it

[Anonymous No.3202339]

>>3202306
Since your so early in the digital art game, I think giving you advice to improve in the right direction will help you more than critiques. First off, the closer you can get digital to feel traditional is better. Get a tablet and tape sketchbook paper on it, get a Cintiq with a textured screen, do whatever you have to do to get comfortable.
Second of all, the biggest thing you need to understand is form. Life drawing is pretty much an ideal way to learn this. Grab a real Rubix cube or any box that's as close to a cube as you can get and draw that thing from 5 angles 5 times. Do the same with cylinders, and if you do this every day from you will learn how to draw simple forms in a month. Once you have drawn hundreds of boxes and cylinders you will be able to "feel" form and know how to easily add it later, allowing you to be able to start with gestural shapes first and not get stuck. For learning to draw anime and coloring look for "Kienan Lafferty" on Youtube. He will teach you how colors work and how to draw with easy to work with shapes that can still be applied to League of Legends tier artwork. Follow his advice and as long as you do your own studies of good artists and real life you will 100 percent get better.
The final and most important thing: Stay off /ic/ when you're learning this stuff, take 1-2 month breaks. The most I've ever improved was when I stopped going here to figure things out for myself. This place is too toxic like >>3202310 said. It's hard enough learning something without trolls trying to delude you and give you wildly different advice.

[Anonymous No.3202341]

>>3202338
believe what?

do you think /ic/ is some godsend place or something?

/ic/ is legit the blind leading the blind for 99% of posters

[Anonymous No.3202350]

>>3202341
Your claim that:

>most industry artists know about /ic/
>most of these artists have a negative opinion of /ic/
and
>documentation of this trend is nearly non existent

gives more than enough reason to be skeptical

[Anonymous No.3202351]

>>3202350
believe what you want senpai, not out to convince you

[Anonymous No.3202354]

>>3202350
okay you got me, /ic/ is a secret safehaven full of wonderful art gems and is the fastest path to getting good

[Anonymous No.3202357]

>>3199058
I'd like to see your take on the Bride of Pinbot.

[Anonymous No.3202358]

>>3202354
I'm not opposing your opinion, even though I somewhat disagree with it, I'm opposing your fallacious argument

[Anonymous No.3202360]

>>3200759
>my pages can get rather filled lately since I've been running out of paper and don't really have the money to buy more sketchbooks.
I did this in college, completely filled a sketchbook because I didn't want to spend $5 on another one. It felt so complete once I finally moved on.

[Anonymous No.3202362]

>>3202358
not here to debate, obviously its impossible to prove without doing some type of self-reporting poll among every industry professional. I can only say among my select few industry friends, most either trash the website, or occasionally go on just to troll and shitpost. i've only spoken with 4-5 people about it though so take that for what you will.

/ic/ and 4chan aren't exactly secretive and there's a reason the majority of people tend to disappear from posting on here the moment they hit intermediate level (barring a few here and there).

[Anonymous No.3202374]

>>3202339
I like this advice, I will try to stick to it.

[Anonymous No.3202985]

>>3202007
blue hair girl is p cute

[Anonymous No.3203002]

My goal is always to try and finish as much as possible, and to find time. And to get better. I went from doing stressful sketches on the commuting train to actually "finishing" something. First is digital, other is graphite on A3 newsprint, sorry for bad quality.

[Anonymous No.3203070]

>>3203002
Nice.
Is this proof that Traditional >>> Digital?
I mean, i detest digital because it's hard as fuck. How do people even manage to draw on a fucking computer with all those complicated buttons and wonky control over the mouse?

[Anonymous No.3203102]

>>3203070
It's doable, but nothing beats traditional when it comes to feedback.

[Anonymous No.3203120]

>>3203002
Grats anon.
>tfw managed to spend an hour drawing for two days in a row
Im such a shitter that this is an achievement for me.

[Anonymous No.3203162]

>>3202196
thats somewhat true but those anons don't know what appealing is
something like pic related is appealing but the artist may not be able to draw, it's simply because they spent more time making it creative in their image than learning fundamentals
i hope that made sense

[Anonymous No.3203179]

>>3201920
are you jewish lol

[Anonymous No.3203260]

>>3203179
what being jewish has to be with the dudes art?

[Anonymous No.3203309]

>>3201920
This is used toilet paper and very bad bait.

[Anonymous No.3203333]

How do you niggas color so naturally? I focused all my learning for years on lines and now I can't even begin to wonder how to color anything.

[Anonymous No.3203344]

>>3203333

learn the theory, put that theory into practice, learn from your mistakes, do this for long enough that you get a natural sense of colour/value

[Anonymous No.3203369]

>>3200965
i prefer the left

[Anonymous No.3203378]

>>3198531
Its fun how it looks like 4 brothers instead of being one person.

[Anonymous No.3203392]

>>3200631
your compositions are definitely improving- good job!

>>3201914
if you havent- start using refs anon. you're drawing blind

[Anonymous No.3203403]

>>3203392
That's true. I gotta start using refs. I'm not sure why I have such an aversion. I think it's the years of being told it's cheating but I really need to get over that, but thank you for the input though. It really solidifies something I need to work on and get out of my comfort zone or I'll never improve... And drawing blind is a great way to put it.

[Anonymous No.3203412]

>>3197788
I care more about improving lines than anything but instead I just learned how to shade

[Anonymous No.3203434]

>>3202271
I think you're seeing things where they aren't boyo. Ben's face is a lot rounder; looks almost completely different.

[Anonymous No.3203457]

>>3202091
Always start with clumps of hair and when they look characteristic enough you can proceed to detail them, choose some specific areas to do so depending on you composition and main light, don't details all the clumps, you can use the smudge tool combined with the scattering setting to brush away some far areas and create contrast.

Highlights are very important before you detail hair, always try to make them follow the form of the head.

That said feel free to go find and experiment with some brushes in order to find something that suits your process, For instance In procreate I love to use the smoke brush, you can do some really nice sfumato hair with it.

[Anonymous No.3203491]

Sometimes I feel that I nailed the thing I'm doing, the rest of the times is ugh

One of my struggles is that I don't find the balance between coloring and my line art, like, I really like to try detailed lines, but when I slap the colors in they kill the details, I've seen that cell shading works fine with it, but I like things more rendered so...

Also, I like doing comics, but since Uni I haven't had the time to do more, just until recently that I graduated that I have a lil more time, I've been doing a couple of them to test paneling and storytelling, and dang, I planned better how to do them 5 years ago than now, at least back then I could do 3 pages in a row, now I struggle to put the idea down hahahaUGH

[Anonymous No.3203520]

>>3200662
you got a blog I can follow?

[Anonymous No.3203665]

>>3202306
do you like sonic?

[Anonymous No.3203701]

>>3203491
Your understanding of form still feels wonky, but I like the way you exaggerate your characters expressions.

[Anonymous No.3204055]

I think my art is still a bit dark, hehe, and I need to do more painted studies of specific things like cloth. I haven't really been properly studying for the past year or so.

[Anonymous No.3204082]

>>3204055
You paint cool shit dude

[Anonymous No.3204096]

>>3203491
ur style is boring i hate 2 say
draw something for me right now
draw a girl

[Anonymous No.3204106]

2014 - 2017

[Daemes No.3204110]

[Anonymous No.3204114]

>>3204055
>no more pillow shading
god bless you anon

>>3203491
i really dont like your style- but i have to admit that your composition and anatomy have vastly improved. well done

[Anonymous No.3204118]

>>3203403
>using refs is cheating hurrbdurr

NO
RULES
JUST
TOOLS

[Anonymous No.3204165]

>>3203491

Nice improvement. That style though...

[Anonymous No.3204179]

>>3204106
These can't possibly be the same people. How did you degrade down so badly over three years? Holy shit

[Anonymous No.3204189]

A while back I saw on /ic/ a very early and very poor drawing by da vinci or some other old master of a man walking, was hoping that someone else can point me to it, as it would bring great hope to the /beg/ kids

[Anonymous No.3204192]

>>3204106
Try to relax anon, you must've put less pressure on yourself while drawing your earlier drawing, and it shows. The new drawing, while being so concerned with anatomy and values you forgot to relax, and so it has come out stiff, therefore less appealing.

Also be careful to draw both eyes the same size, in perspective they should only ger horizontally shorter, not small all the way round. I think you have a lot of potential.

[Anonymous No.3204194]

>>3204165
>>3204114
>>3203701
>>3204096
Thanks Anons, dare I ask what you don't like specifically from my style? I'm too in a phase that I don't like it that much, but I don't know what it is, I'm guessing is the eyes principally, but I'd like to know more opinions...

[Anonymous No.3204207]

>>3204106
if not troll, by far the most depressing on here.

dude, where did everything went so wrong?

[Anonymous No.3204216]

>>3204194
im >>3204096

Your style is generic, very run-of-the-mill tumblr stuff. That's not to say you aren't good but the what's more important than being good is being appealing. It doesn't stand out from the background. I think you should use your skills while developing a better sense of appeal when drawing characters, try studying and drawing inspiration from art that you think "stands out"

[Anonymous No.3204251]

Left is a character I drew a few years ago
Right is a character I drew last week

I still have a ways to go, but I'd say I'm improving. Would you agree?

[Anonymous No.3204254]

>>3204251
post MOre please

[Anonymous No.3204257]

>>3204254
More what?
Current art? Old art? Comparisons?
In any case, sure thing

[Anonymous No.3204359]

>>3203412
you really can't call that shading.. learn the basics of values/shadows anon. sycra did a series on it that's more than good enough for plebs like you

[Anonymous No.3204418]

>>3204257
cool got any more character art? and blog

[Anonymous No.3204443]

>>3204418
closest thing I have to a blog is my DA page
https://pl4ntm4n.deviantart.com/
hope you enjoy!

[Anonymous No.3204475]

>>3200656
DEUS VULT

[Anonymous No.3204499]

>>3204216
Damn, thanks, I'll be doing studies for a while then

[Anonymous No.3204510]

>>3200633
Are you the long black haired dude

[Anonymous No.3204511]

>>3203491
I don't know what these fuckers are on about, I think it's a very nice, unique style. Obviously you should experiment as much as possible, though

[Anonymous No.3204535]

>>3200633
BLOG NOW

[Anonymous No.3205058]

>>3204511
Different likes and tastes, like people who like onions, but I want to hear them all so I can have a varied range of opinions to work with.
Thanks anon, I'm doing my practices and studies now.

[Anonymous No.3205085]

To everyone that is doing complete pieces with color and rendering while still being bad. Dont do it....

Study from reference and dont take an hour for every subject.

Please kill your darlings.

[Anonymous No.3205120]

>>3200759
post the new one on the goddamn right side, im gonna say this everytime I see someone posting an improvement pic thats like this

[Anonymous No.3205125]

>>3201920
>2012-2013 well hes trying
>2015 oh those heads are kinda bad for 3 years of drawing and whats that pink thing
>2017 now youre not even trying anymore, just random colors and shitty head

[Anonymous No.3205142]

>>3200965
learn perspective what the fuck

[Anonymous No.3205150]

>>3205085
Why practice only one thing at a time? I've seen way too many artists be great at sketching and horrible at painting, while some make unintelligible sketches that they're able to turn into great paintings. I get that /beg/s need to learn the fundamentals first, but you are thinking about art in a very narrow minded way.

[Anonymous No.3205153]

>>3198727
Shit taste

[Anonymous No.3205167]

9 months, got a lot of down time on the night shift.

[Anonymous No.3205170]

>>3205167
What's your end goal

[Anonymous No.3205172]

>>3201920
Entartete "Kunst"

[Anonymous No.3205179]

>>3205085
Yes do it you retarded fuck.
It's a skill in it's own to finish a picture, to make a whole picture.
You have to do studies yes, but they serve the purpose of making your finished work better.

[Anonymous No.3205181]

>>3205170
To make 3D animations, learning 2D to improve my anatomy knowledge faster. That and eventually learning how to use colors.

[Anonymous No.3205184]

>>3200633
>>3204510

Yes I am wondering this, too. You look like a sexy beast.

[Anonymous No.3205260]

Have some smut.

[Anonymous No.3205281]

>>3205085

see >>3205179

You need to make finished work so you know where best to direct your studies

[Anonymous No.3205341]

>>3205167
pls protect the snailgirl

[Anonymous No.3205346]

>>3200131
The pose is a bit awkward and the legs are bit too large, making the body looks disproportionate.

Great linework and cute character though. Really like the shading as well.

[Anonymous No.3205455]

Judge me

[Anonymous No.3205460]

>>3205260
neat

[Anonymous No.3205462]

>>3205455
>8 years

[Anonymous No.3205465]

>>3205455
It's improvement, but is it 8 years worth of improvement? From the looks of it you are still struggling drawing bodies, and it's letting you down causing the proportions to be wrong and the drawing to be stiff. I would go outside and draw people until your arm falls off. This will not only help you with drawing the figure but also get you out of your 3/4 portrait of anime girl rut.

[Anonymous No.3205467]

[Anonymous No.3205480]

>>3205465
I've mostly drawn male bodies over the years that female bodies became weird to draw.

[Anonymous No.3205490]

2013 to 2017

[Anonymous No.3205544]

>>3204510
>>3205184
Naw it's an oc
>>3204535
https://topplerror.tumblr.com/
It's only got some new shit and I never update it, along with some potato quality webcomic pages that I've since redrawn and not updated

[Anonymous No.3205545]

>>3205467
Amélie?

[Anonymous No.3205560]

[Anonymous No.3205564]

>>3205545
no

[Anonymous No.3205566]

>>3205560
What makes right so much better than the left

[Anonymous No.3205567]

>>3205544
>reblogging superstitious bullshit

[Anonymous No.3205568]

its been slow but im getting there

[Anonymous No.3205569]

>>3205567
there

[Anonymous No.3205573]

>>3205566
budget

[Anonymous No.3205582]

>>3205566
>Hair more detailed and varied. Not just a bunch of triangles going in the same direction. Good contrast between small, thin, and large shapes.
>Eyes have a more interesting shape and interact with the hair better.
>Facial features aren't slanted on a vertical head.
>Thinner neck that isn't twisted too far to the side.
>A mouth that isn't a box.
>A shoulder that isn't a pauldron
>Flatter, yet more accurate shadows, especially on the hair.
>More vibrant colors.

All of these small choices add up into a vastly more appealing face, and it goes to show how much good design plays a role in even the most simple image...

also >>3205573

[Anonymous No.3205710]

/ic/ told me to draw boxes a few years back.

[Anonymous No.3205711]

>>3205710
Good gains. Hopefully you'll be a master of boxes in a few more years.

[Anonymous No.3205743]

>>3200368
jelly of the environs. keep it up men.

[Anonymous No.3205748]

>>3200368
It's been a long time since we've crossed paths. It's good to see your art and your improvement since the last time! Your environments are as lovely as always.

>>3200381
>ywn have such nice but effortless looking inking like in the top right
Great progress, anon.

[Anonymous No.3205753]

>>3200691
>her right arm

What the hell happened there?

[Anonymous No.3205790]

>>3205743
Ah, you drew the jojo Arthur girl. Very nice.

Give me your blog fag

[Anonymous No.3205854]

guess im getting somewhere? ive only now started to experiment with semi realistic and realistic every now and then ..

[Anonymous No.3205857]

>>3205854
I think your chins are a little small but you're a lot more adventurous with your composition and backgrounds. Good job, anon!

[Anonymous No.3205998]

left is the first thing I ever posted on /ic/, right was drawn yesterday in around the same amount of time

>>3205467
>>3205490
great progress!

[Anonymous No.3206012]

>>3205998
good, i rely like the hair on the new one

[Anonymous No.3206045]

>>3197788
I may only draw shit for my dnd campaigns anymore but at least I stopped looking for art tips from tumblr. Still need to work on backgrounds, though.

[Anonymous No.3206091]

>>3205568
The second image makes tea parties great again

[Anonymous No.3206113]

>>3205790
https://luvskey.tumblr.com/
https://www.instagram.com/luvskeys/

t-thanks

[Anonymous No.3206212]

>>3205743
>>3205748
thank you friends!

[Anonymous No.3206223]

>>3205710

[Anonymous No.3206259]

I dont post here much. Mostly in /tg/ doing requests when I have time. But I feel I've improved since 2015

[Anonymous No.3206371]

>>3204055
Your positioning of the apostrophes on the lower two images implies that they were drawn in the 16th and 18th centuries.

[Anonymous No.3206686]

Every year I dishonor myself with my lack of progress.

[Anonymous No.3206728]

>>3206686
Don't worry, it can get worse.

[Anonymous No.3207133]

>>3200283
Youre bad at being an internet whore,getting money from art is 90% about how good youre at social media and 10% about how good you can draw,look at all those lolsorelatable comic hacks and shadman

[Anonymous No.3207492]

Excuse the shitty mspaint collage, but what am I doing wrong? My art feels stagnant, like I'm drawing the same 3/4 bust over and over.
inb4:
>do figure sketches!
I do.
>stop drawing anime
aight.

[Anonymous No.3207670]

>>3197800
Complete adherence to the fundamentals isn't always the best option.

[Anonymous No.3208491]

>>3207492
nice work anon. do you have a blog?

[Anonymous No.3208908]

>>3200659