Alternative Art/Stylization General

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Alternative Art/Stylization General Anonymous Sun Oct 29 23:38:15 2017 No.3189674 [Reply] [Original]

Last thread: >>3184241

This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works in-between their studies, however, all forms of stylization is welcome here. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, remember to have fun because I told you to.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 23:45:51 2017 No.3189684 nice stupid op with your own fucking shitty art stupid attention whore

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 23:55:12 2017 No.3189694 >>3189684 post your work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 23:56:14 2017 No.3189695 >>3189694 why? anyone is better than this shit. stop posting your art here

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 23:56:49 2017 No.3189696 >>3189674 >>3189694 Garbage OP pic, alt just gets worse and worse

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 00:19:19 2017 No.3189709 Shark eyes was OP all along? I doubt it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 00:35:14 2017 No.3189724 File: 1.10 MB, 1402x1875, 20171020角集合.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] haven't posted here in like forever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 00:40:38 2017 No.3189728 >>3189724 I like your hatch marks, is that a regular old round brush>

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 00:41:05 2017 No.3189729 >>3189724 lets keep it that way

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 00:45:21 2017 No.3189735 What do you do with the overwhelming frustration that hits you like a brick when everything you produce is garbage?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 00:47:33 2017 No.3189736 >>3189735 take a breather, stretch, clear your head, but don't quit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 00:50:59 2017 No.3189737 >>3189724 How do I get as good as you? Do you got a blog?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 00:51:16 2017 No.3189739 >>3189724 Love the second row, second column and unicorn ones. The one with the red string is dragged down by the rightside hand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 00:51:59 2017 No.3189740 >>3189735 As long as you can understand what's lacking and improve with each iteration, it's all just more practice for when you can be proud of your work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 00:53:05 2017 No.3189743 The op should've been those character designs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 00:56:20 2017 No.3189748 >>3189736 It makes me so unreasonably upset I pace around my room very often. I'll try stretching. >>3189740 It really makes me want to quit being able to spot every single flaw. Goddammit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 00:57:18 2017 No.3189751 File: 417 KB, 836x720, ZgBt0UL[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How the fuck do I do snouts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 01:35:27 2017 No.3189777 >>3189674 what the fuck is this op lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 02:00:49 2017 No.3189803 File: 132 KB, 2280x924, toolewd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 02:01:18 2017 No.3189805 >>3189751 >furry stop

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 02:02:00 2017 No.3189806 This is my first attempt at drawing hentai and i am trying to teach myself how to draw as a begginer. Any feedback would be appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 02:03:09 2017 No.3189807 File: 3.47 MB, 4032x3024, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] drawing hentai and i am trying to teach myself how to draw as a begginer. Any feedback would be appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 02:08:19 2017 No.3189811 >>3189807 Draw bigger Use non lined paper Less scratchy lines

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 02:12:03 2017 No.3189814 >>3189803 Got a blog? Pretty decent stuff here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 02:13:08 2017 No.3189816 >>3189724 You seriously gotta give up your secrets on linework. What brush settings you working with huh???

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 02:19:37 2017 No.3189818 >>3189814 Thx. blog is less decent but here http://yev-san.tumblr.com/

Anonymous Mon Oct 30 02:22:12 2017 No.3189822 [DELETED]

>>3189684
fuck you you nigger piece of fucking shit weaboo faggot, I didn't even fucking post my pic as the op and I honestly don't even fucking know why it was chosen as the op pic. but fuck your fucking shitty ass art you fucking poser idgaf for what you have to say you meaningless piece of trash>>3189695
>>3189696
Hope you burn in hell and rot in your moms dingy cellar of a basement. If a 5 minute half assed attempt at a doodle triggers you I don't know what to tell you. Peace

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 02:27:56 2017 No.3189826 >>3189822 lol ur art is trash

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 02:32:12 2017 No.3189828 >>3189826 You have to be at least 18 to post here

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 02:39:54 2017 No.3189832 >>3189828 right back at yah braham

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 03:29:44 2017 No.3189848 File: 428 KB, 517x770, fffff.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3189826 haha thanks!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 04:14:44 2017 No.3189864 File: 104 KB, 691x571, ss+(2017-10-30+at+04.11.56).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Commission - thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 05:02:15 2017 No.3189883 >>3189864 skip steps much

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 06:02:33 2017 No.3189903 >>3189864 how the fuck do you get commisions with this level of skill, who is so desperate to hire you?!??!!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 06:06:47 2017 No.3189906 >>3189903 They're always drawing spanking in the same pose and angle so take a guess

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 06:24:39 2017 No.3189913 >>3189864 i`ve only seen you make spanking drawings lol also, composition and perspective

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 06:57:46 2017 No.3189927 >>3189724 You're too good for this board

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 07:01:21 2017 No.3189928 >>3189805 Sorry if I don't always post lolis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 08:21:04 2017 No.3189973 File: 411 KB, 1796x1846, IMG_2764.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Doodling

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 08:58:22 2017 No.3189981 >>3189973 nice style, blog?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 09:09:02 2017 No.3189986 >>3189928 you could be posting furry lolis

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 09:29:43 2017 No.3189997 File: 627 KB, 749x897, Sword.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone here have any tips on how to properly render metal? I found out I really suck at it and need to fix this quick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 09:56:16 2017 No.3190013 File: 352 KB, 657x1152, Mrs Fear.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did a thing for the /co/ Spooktober thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 10:00:43 2017 No.3190015 >>3189997 make it reflect the nearby enviroment

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 10:03:20 2017 No.3190016 >>3190015 I know, I tried, but I don't know how far I should go. The enviroment is just sky in this case, but I'm not doing a convincing job.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 10:09:06 2017 No.3190017 File: 119 KB, 800x736, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should I finish this?

Anonymous Mon Oct 30 10:15:13 2017 No.3190022
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>>3189728
>>3189816
It's nothing too fancy. I limit the minimum line weight to about 60 percent so that I don't get thin lines, pic related.

>>3189739
https://twitter.com/yunkie101

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 10:33:11 2017 No.3190031 >>3190017 the vag is wrong buddy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 10:42:46 2017 No.3190039 File: 195 KB, 593x859, directionpls.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can I get some input on how this is going?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 10:45:39 2017 No.3190044 >>3189818 >somewhat rendered What does it take like 1 minute to go from flat colors to somewhat rendered damn yev teach me how to be a good goy

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 10:57:16 2017 No.3190055 >>3190039 wonky lower half, especially pelvis. expression/whole movement looks stiff. though upper half doesn't look that bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 13:10:30 2017 No.3190157 >>3190031 What's wrong with it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 13:28:55 2017 No.3190169 >>3190157 Not him but I think what he means is that it's too high up, the vagina is placed directly underneath the pelvis area. Hopefully my english is good enough that you understand what I mean

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 13:36:52 2017 No.3190178 File: 303 KB, 1024x768, 1485994258969.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sketchan from imagination i dunno know the first fuck about hatching though

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 13:37:52 2017 No.3190179 >>3190178 Blog? Cute girl on the left.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 13:45:55 2017 No.3190184 File: 122 KB, 448x650, 2017-10-31_01-45-08.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3190039 ihaven o idea what im doing but maybe this helps bye

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 13:57:39 2017 No.3190192 >>3189674 OP is a faggot actually using dentist kuns garbage as a thread image what even is this faggot board anymore

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 13:59:05 2017 No.3190193 >>3189848 will you ever stop being such a gigantic faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 14:04:12 2017 No.3190198 File: 85 KB, 1700x2292, New Doc 2017-10-28_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] haven't posted here in this cumbucket for quite some time

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 14:05:34 2017 No.3190199 >>3190169 Ah, thank you. That's a thing I can fix. Any other glaring problems I should take care of?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 14:53:26 2017 No.3190248 File: 193 KB, 2000x824, newdrawingscenecolorresize.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Help me with this its killing me

Anonymous Mon Oct 30 15:21:45 2017 No.3190274

>>3190248

House is fine. Everything else is like you vomited green all over. Look at pictures of forests, and bikes. Fuck serious look at a bike. Learn foreground/midground differentiation. Try making bike/girl darker or even just warmer/cooler than mid. Your colors are shit, learn what saturation does.
Mounains and house are good

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 15:40:24 2017 No.3190287 File: 59 KB, 636x428, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3190248 I typed a response and Chrome crashed. Snabbed a screen shot before it did though - sorry I don't wanna retype it all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 15:41:19 2017 No.3190289 File: 355 KB, 2000x824, 11-sdf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3190248 >>3190287

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 16:07:25 2017 No.3190308 File: 56 KB, 463x395, ss+(2017-10-30+at+04.06.05).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3189913 What's off about the perspective?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 16:19:02 2017 No.3190318 How do I draw different kinds of not realistic eyes without defaulting to the same shitty one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 16:20:27 2017 No.3190320 File: 165 KB, 3254x1136, sex.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 16:24:01 2017 No.3190325 >>3190198 blog

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 16:27:04 2017 No.3190330 >>3190320 You doing nofap or something yev? Why so much lewds? You've got to always be drawing with the dick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 16:37:43 2017 No.3190341 >>3190330 Ive always wanted to draw lewd stuff, I was just always too afraid to try different poses, or characters interacting. I finally decided to try and just face my fear and do it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 16:44:32 2017 No.3190350 >>3190320 please learn how to draw

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 17:08:18 2017 No.3190378 How do I draw even eyes

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 17:09:54 2017 No.3190380 >>3190378 With a straight line

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 17:10:24 2017 No.3190382 >>3190380 But what if the head is turned

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 17:12:29 2017 No.3190388 >>3190382 Then it's a straight line curved by perspective.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 17:14:38 2017 No.3190392 >>3190388 pls

Anonymous Mon Oct 30 17:26:47 2017 No.3190415

>>3190287
>>3190289
Hugely helpful thank you so much for taking the time to do this.
I'm trying to recreate what you've done here, and I'm going to steal your sky situation. I believe I have over corrected a little but I know I still have a long way to go, thanks for the push in the right direction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 17:27:50 2017 No.3190419 File: 235 KB, 2000x849, SCENEWCROPFINALrecolorresize.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3190415 forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 17:36:54 2017 No.3190425 >>3190308 Not him but I think you're underestimating the size of the wrestling ring by a lot. Also those heads are way higher than the girl but they're front row seats so they should be on the same level as her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 18:40:30 2017 No.3190506 >>3190325 Never use it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 19:05:04 2017 No.3190532 >>3190425 Thanks

Anonymous Mon Oct 30 20:03:41 2017 No.3190601
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I'm trying so hard with this chainsaw but I don't know if this is working or not. Crit on the sketch before I try cleaning this up?
The face is a mask, before anyone wonders why it looks weird.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 20:25:46 2017 No.3190618 File: 671 KB, 600x800, camp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] happy fucking birthday

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 21:00:57 2017 No.3190637 >>3189997 Where is your light source coming from? Figure that out, and then look at some photos of swords.

Anonymous Mon Oct 30 21:09:43 2017 No.3190645

>>3190637
Got that figured out, top front and somewhat to the left. I looked for pictures for an hour this morning before having to leave and had a really hard time finding reference that was helpful (if someone had told me it'd be this hard to find a decent one I would probably laugh at them). When I came back I spent time rendering the rest of the drawing, but now I'm reminded of the sword again, so I'll go look for some more in other sites.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 22:11:53 2017 No.3190706 >>3190618 this is great besides for the head/short arm. And the hair has almost no shading on it in comparison to everything else?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 23:28:43 2017 No.3190794 >>3189751 You're doing it, dude.

Anonymous Mon Oct 30 23:38:10 2017 No.3190819

>>3190618
You need to add more contrast, and her proportions look a bit off, but otherwise good

>>3190601
It looks great. I think the saw part of the chainsaw is a bit off-center though, try using a reference pic

>>3190198
I actually love how old fashioned your style is, just try to clean up those lines.

>>3190178
>>3190039
>>3189973
Love the linework

>>3190013
Colors should definitely be changed. The blocky hair doesn't fit with the rest of the figure, otherwise good.

>>3189997
>>3189724
Gorgeous

>>3189864
You need to study a bit more, put this in the beginner thread. Good job on getting a commission though!

>>3189751
This looks great, the snouts look fine to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 00:41:01 2017 No.3190871 File: 81 KB, 865x1000, witch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] design exercise? meme + witch prompt

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 01:50:43 2017 No.3190917 File: 684 KB, 1161x909, YxgjelS[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3190794 >>3190819 You're too kind.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 03:50:41 2017 No.3190986 File: 467 KB, 1080x1920, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just drew this. Im pretty new to drawing. Any advice i can get is great.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 06:40:32 2017 No.3191073 >>3190320 Nice

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 07:05:02 2017 No.3191083 File: 890 KB, 1100x1571, nekrogoblikomik.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 07:08:40 2017 No.3191088 >>3190986 Maybe you should go to /beg/

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 08:16:33 2017 No.3191125 File: 143 KB, 768x1280, rps20171031_103123.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Please critique.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 11:06:40 2017 No.3191209 >>3190819 Thank you for the advice anon, I'm taking it into account and making edits now

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 11:31:33 2017 No.3191223 >>3189674 google doc in OP is a dead link

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 14:32:53 2017 No.3191390 File: 1.95 MB, 3467x2426, 159.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] comments or critiques?

Anonymous Tue Oct 31 17:01:11 2017 No.3191470
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Okay I'm struggling real bad with trying to translate these colors onto the dark background. Anyone who can help, please?

>>3191390
I can't see like half of the picture because it's too dark.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 17:13:39 2017 No.3191471 >>3189973 smokin's bad 4 ur health~

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 18:57:03 2017 No.3191521 File: 127 KB, 738x808, CAM00280 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 19:12:15 2017 No.3191536 File: 737 KB, 1024x1117, s_by_drunkradio-dbs2nw0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I see a problem in the shoulder girdle, which seems to have gotten out of perspective, but I wonder how badly and noticeably it looks on the sidelines

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 19:13:35 2017 No.3191539 File: 1.80 MB, 900x1318, Untitled7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3191470 I'd do this maybe more mist color pick your own bg use opaque brush and just try to bring stuff out

Anonymous Tue Oct 31 19:38:38 2017 No.3191557
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>tfw you get Last Minute Hate for your Drawing Syndrome every time
I've got only three fucking hours to send this, still have to fix that sword. Besides that I'll finish the hair, clouds, add some details and call it done. Is there anything I'm missing?
I'm still debating over if the dumb white bars look better than the regular one, opinions are welcomed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 19:48:53 2017 No.3191562 >>3191557 You got the ambient light only on the face, unless it was on purpose

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 19:52:29 2017 No.3191566 >>3191562 Oh shit I forgot, yeah the rest is missing the ambient light. I was supposed to put that in later for the rest of the body.

Anonymous Tue Oct 31 19:55:15 2017 No.3191567
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i'm supposed to be doing a commisson of some kind of nordic goddess
skadi? iirc.
i want it to have a bright wintery night look to it but obviously i am not there yet, i don't know how to color for jack shit. let me have it, friends.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 19:58:21 2017 No.3191574 File: 245 KB, 534x763, Screen Shot 2017-10-31 at 6.57.41 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] poster fodder from a week or so ago crit would be welcome

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 19:58:50 2017 No.3191575 >>3191539 ohh, this is a good idea. Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 20:01:04 2017 No.3191579 >>3191557 You were having trouble finding ref maybe something here might help http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?ms=1&page=1&tags=Sword+pointing_at_viewer+&utf8=

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 20:34:13 2017 No.3191614 File: 431 KB, 432x863, Screenshot_1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3191557 try to think on the white bars at the end when you're finishing metal in open and bright spaces are not so defined you can do it anon!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 20:38:35 2017 No.3191620 >>3191579 >>3191614 God. Fucking. Bless you. Especially you, paintover anon, seriously I wish I could do something for you. Give me your blog at least, cause you're really good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 20:46:50 2017 No.3191628 >>3191620 give me money ah re xD artstation.com/inaniinii

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 20:50:37 2017 No.3191632 >>3191628 >1 upload Qué injusticia :c followeado de igual manera, voy a estar atento a lo que subas en el futuro.

Anonymous Tue Oct 31 20:53:43 2017 No.3191633

>>3191557
I don't think you pushed the rhombus shape of the point enough.
The only way for the design to work where the point is completely flat is if it meets the rest of the blade further down. https://youtu.be/PGFW4japOoI?t=786

Otherwise you need to add the angle to the point like >>3191614 did.

Anonymous Tue Oct 31 21:10:25 2017 No.3191642
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>>3191633
You mean like this? yeah, considering it's a tricky shape and even trickier to put into perspective, I might go for the easier classic point shape like in the paintover. I was thinking of doing that for a while anyways.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 21:19:57 2017 No.3191651 >>3191642 Yeah the perspective would be all kinds of fucky for such a unique shape. People probably wouldn't even realize what they were looking at even if it was drawn perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 22:01:20 2017 No.3191680 File: 1.01 MB, 905x1200, knight_malus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] a knight for a fantasy comic comments/crits welcome!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 03:32:29 2017 No.3191861 File: 2.13 MB, 4000x1750, 2017090k.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hey /ic it's been awhile see you next year!

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 03:37:24 2017 No.3191863 truly a dead general

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 04:00:33 2017 No.3191873 >>3191861 WHO IS THIS? I NEED TO KNOW

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 04:10:36 2017 No.3191881 >>3191873 He only posts like three times a year anyway

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 06:43:24 2017 No.3191943 >>3191873 >>3191881 And never responds to anyone

Anonymous Wed Nov 1 07:15:03 2017 No.3191956
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Hey /ic/, I recently took up an art class specifically for Japanese anime style drawings and despite this being the first time drawing semi-seriously, I've found that I greatly enjoyed the process. I want to improve even more on my own but /beg/'s guides seem really intimidating and I'm feeling at a loss as to how to apply those techniques to drawing in anime.

Sorry for the blogpost, I hope you guys don't have a terribly bad opinion of anime only artists...

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 07:26:34 2017 No.3191964 >>3191956 is this bait? fuck off retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 08:57:39 2017 No.3192010 >>3191964 It isn't. Now what?

Anonymous Wed Nov 1 09:17:06 2017 No.3192020

>>3191863

Kinda bored of the same artists posting here. I wish there was a way to advertise /ic/ to outside sources to bring in fresh talent. The bar is so low here that more intermediate artists coming here will (hopefully) intimidate the regulars to get better.
>>3191861
I love your stuf, senpai. But you /jp/ fags never respond. You all act in this same, strange manner.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 09:23:12 2017 No.3192025 >>3192010 learn construction and slap on stylized features

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 10:00:43 2017 No.3192046 >>3192020 They would be sort of shit someone would point it out and then they'd get defensive it'd just cause a lot of shitposting and give an ego boost to regulars

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 10:04:12 2017 No.3192048 File: 306 KB, 965x1472, WBT101~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3191956

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 10:18:18 2017 No.3192055 >>3192046 I would just get the shitflingers banned. Not a problem.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 18:33:10 2017 No.3192469 File: 206 KB, 639x589, deeba.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] dvachan desu

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 19:14:52 2017 No.3192514 File: 154 KB, 2000x849, STRANGERTHINGSONEONEresize.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts on composition?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 19:24:55 2017 No.3192525 >>3192514 creatures are too similar in size, try and make the one on top of the car smaller, and the one close to us bigger

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 19:28:25 2017 No.3192531 >>3192514 Feels like michael bay camera turn, but in a ggood way i guess.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 19:35:52 2017 No.3192541 File: 150 KB, 2000x849, STRANGERTHINGSONEONEresizeICedit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3192525 Something like this? >>3192531 Thanks I think. Idea was to give it a little dutch angle to spice it up, throw things off balance

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 19:51:42 2017 No.3192548 >>3192541 perfect

Anonymous Wed Nov 1 20:28:00 2017 No.3192575

Would it be worth it to drop my Wacom Intuous for a cheap screen display tablet (specifically the XP-Pen Artist 16).
From the reviews I've seen it's pretty good and comparable to a Cintiq, and from what I got to try a friend's Cintiq the addition of a screen is helpful.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 20:36:45 2017 No.3192586 >>3192048 sauce on that book?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 21:24:19 2017 No.3192609 File: 162 KB, 774x572, noseshadows.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just want to know how this works as a style, ignore anatomy, zero effort, will grind.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 21:36:11 2017 No.3192615 >>3192609 Lovely, has some old anime/Ghibli feel to it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 22:06:03 2017 No.3192644 >>3192586 the best of wizard how to draw

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 22:28:38 2017 No.3192663 >>3192615 Excellent. I like the heavy ink style of the 90's but not the stylization per say and was mimicking their line weight. Exactly what I was going for.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 22:39:09 2017 No.3192669 File: 211 KB, 308x300, 573495735.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3192609 I love these a lot What do you mean by "ignore anatomy" though? I'd like to know what you study as I've been meaning to grind more myself

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 23:00:57 2017 No.3192687 >>3192609 Rat would love to learn from you

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 23:27:08 2017 No.3192702 File: 540 KB, 668x779, BsXbC7E[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] thats the last time i try painting anime hair

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 23:44:11 2017 No.3192707 >>3192702 How are you so good at painting

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 03:15:29 2017 No.3192914 >>3189724 I want to draw like you

Anonymous Thu Nov 2 09:26:02 2017 No.3193071

>>3190986
it's actually quite refreshing to see a drawing like this. My advice for you would just be to keep drawing, although that may sound redundant. Also, I know drawing with pen might have an "appeal" to it, but it's actually really helpful to draw lightly in pencil. Your drawing also seems like you're pressing too hard with your pen, giving you rough very scratchy lines. Try to draw lighter in pencil and take it slow. Look at a lot of appealing anime faces you like. Just looking at a lot of faces will help you get a good feel for what makes an anime face "attractive" Like the distance from one eye to the other, the placement of the nose and mouth. These things are really important and small changes can drastically change the outcome of the final image. Obviously though, the most important thing I would say is mileage and just drawing a lot. Anyways, I hoped this helped. And good luck!

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 09:29:24 2017 No.3193072 >>3191861 same face/body girl collage #10423049 82350 wow so impressive ham you've really stepped up your game to copy paste the same shit consistently, good job

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 09:34:41 2017 No.3193075 File: 259 KB, 1000x1000, test1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 09:59:09 2017 No.3193094 File: 301 KB, 841x854, neko.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] nya

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 10:37:40 2017 No.3193128 >>3193094 Cute as heck. Have anymore art to share?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 10:55:43 2017 No.3193148 File: 84 KB, 618x869, 1508621349985.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hyper rough, but tell me what you think anyways

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 11:23:26 2017 No.3193166 File: 135 KB, 1014x943, maybe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3193148 I think her heads too big or too low or both. Maybe she is supposed to be young though? Idk take it or leave it

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 13:44:26 2017 No.3193289 File: 178 KB, 689x1018, Untitled-4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3193166

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 14:34:53 2017 No.3193331 File: 1.71 MB, 1500x2250, 0214高楼向下.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3189724 Hey aren't you the guy who drew that ? Keep it up !

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 14:48:33 2017 No.3193350 File: 220 KB, 2500x1079, STRANGERTHINGStwo2resize.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3192541 Any thoughts on the lighting?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 16:33:45 2017 No.3193462 File: 192 KB, 1000x1000, death certificate.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3193094 what'd you think of the cover to ice cube's sophomore solo effort, death certificate

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 16:47:51 2017 No.3193474 File: 209 KB, 899x883, bglins.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wanted to finish this for Halloween, what a shame >>3186545 https://melkochan.tumblr.com/ >>3186550 It was a character from EO5 so I wanted to stick to the original look

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 16:59:49 2017 No.3193483 >>3193350 i think you need to push the dark values more

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 17:26:17 2017 No.3193511 File: 404 KB, 4058x1752, STRANGERTHINGSthreedarker.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3193483 Too much?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 17:36:43 2017 No.3193524 >>3193511 Don't just darken everything. The lamp post should still be pitch white etc. Contrast in a picture is really important.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 19:14:15 2017 No.3193612 File: 502 KB, 682x640, YgacVg8[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How the fuck did I go from anime to this monstrosity?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 19:23:02 2017 No.3193616 >>3193612 A sequence of very bad decisions. The eyes feel like they're too far apart and the mouth isn't centered where it needs to be. Also that man jaw is kind of fucking everything if you're going for a "cute"

Anonymous Thu Nov 2 19:30:42 2017 No.3193623

>>3193616
Yeah I tried going for anime and then my old habits decided to kick in and had to settle for some weird compromise, not to mention the structure is just way off. Thanks for the pointers, though, I'll see what I can fix from here before I move on.

Anonymous Thu Nov 2 19:41:14 2017 No.3193630
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Whats a good way to draw intentionally bad bodies that don't make sense.

like i'm trying to draw more grotesque very mutated modified people, in ways of a mad science type deal. these being the "failed" experiments they're going to be deformed beyond use but still have some sense and structure to them.
I could just throw random shit on them for laughs and draw them squirming on the floor, but i feel that might just look unintentionally bad vs looking like a fucked up monster.

pic sorta related

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 20:00:13 2017 No.3193658 File: 104 KB, 312x333, ploop.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3193612 I did a shitty paint over for you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 20:09:54 2017 No.3193665 >>3193658 now she just looks like she has some bad down syndrome my man

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 20:11:32 2017 No.3193668 >>3193658 Hey, I like how clean it is and how it's closer to what I had in mind. Thanks for taking the time to do this, I'll try to learn from it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 20:17:50 2017 No.3193680 >>3193658 the original has more charm. you've made her worse-looking and.. fatter? why?? don't ever put your shit edits over other anon's art ever again

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 20:20:24 2017 No.3193681 >>3193680 >>3193665 tastes in face shape aside, the edit is superior in finish. dont be fucking autistic and scare away good posters.

Anonymous Thu Nov 2 20:38:37 2017 No.3193695
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>>3193616
>>3193658
Thank you for the suggestions, I can definitely see the error in my ways now. Don't know where I'd be without them haha.

No, it's not as good as I'd like it to be right now, but polishing this any further would just be pointless so I'm just gonna call it a learning experience and move on. I've definitely learned quite a bit doing this piece.

Not sure why people are hating on the paintover, it's clearly much better than what I had.

Anonymous Thu Nov 2 21:12:11 2017 No.3193728
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>>3193695
while the original could use SOME polish, the paintover takes away any personality it had and makes it indistinguishable from the overly smoothed, over-blended, generic tumblr portrait. the paintover anon even changed the bangs for no reason other than to suit their own bland style.

there is nothing better about the edit. it doesnt fix any lighting or anatomy issues. simply put, it's a "my style looks better than your style" edit which makes it worthless

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 21:18:39 2017 No.3193734 File: 306 KB, 600x692, 2017-11-02ic.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3193612 Welp, I'm a bit late, but here is a line. Keep it up, man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 21:28:33 2017 No.3193744 >>3193734 Shucks, you're too kind. I'm definitely saving this for the future.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 21:44:11 2017 No.3193754 >>3193734 why do shitters always redline

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 22:06:47 2017 No.3193764 File: 244 KB, 900x708, Dark Elf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] need to get into the habit of posting here again

Anonymous Thu Nov 2 22:18:38 2017 No.3193769

>>3189724
Good anatomy, decent perspective, nice detail vs. space in your lines, and even popping everything out with value vs. white (contained by lines) is good.

I'm gonna give you a critique because you're SO close that I just feel it would be a lost opportunity for you not to know this.

The difference between this (your current work) which is good, but there are thousands of people who can do this, and someone who stands out at line work, is one thing.

And I see it all the time, also with people who do rendered (colored/shaded) work.

Your lines are too repetitive. They are too consistent. Try for some long vs. short lines, some straights vs. curves. Don't have your lines turn out to be all roughly the same length, or bend around the same spots, or have too many bends and curves all over the body distracting from the focal point. Etc.

Have some thick vs. thins, curves vs. straights, long vs. shorts, sharp vs soft angles, etc. Just push up your contrast.

That's literally THE difference between everyday pro (where you're at) and STANDOUT pro. (where you will be with this advice.)

The same goes for rendering. There are a lot of guys who are admired for painting really well, but there are a LOT of them, and they don't stand out because of 1 thing usually. They render everything too consistently.

The foot gets the same amount of shading as the face. Instead, just like with the lines, you can organize your level of rendering and shading based on focus etc. like frazetta, and it makes that extra special difference, the difference between a pro, and a special stand out pro. The one in a blue moon kind.

This has been one of the things I personally studied and just realized/noticed on my own and I hope it has been helpful to you and to everyone reading it.

An example would be if you were wondering why an artgerm is good, but he can't render/shade as appealing as frazetta. That's literally why.

Same goes with your linework vs. Toriyama.

Anonymous Thu Nov 2 22:20:43 2017 No.3193771

>>3189724
Part II

You'll even notice that your drawings are more accurate anatomy-wise etc. than much of toriyama's work or etc. And yet his work stands out as appealing.

If you can keep in mind that appeal is the most important thing, than you don't have to be perfect at anatomy or etc. whatever else. I'm just adding this last part to illustrate the importance of how it makes the difference between pro and stand out pro.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 22:35:31 2017 No.3193779 >>3193764 >dark elf Nah, dude

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 22:47:22 2017 No.3193787 >>3193779 >>3193764 whoa, just realizing this. fucked up the filename lol

Anonymous Thu Nov 2 23:02:24 2017 No.3193800

>>3193769
The lines are perfectly fine. I think this critique you're giving is based on how you'd prefer it to look rather than how well it's made (you know what I'm saying?). I'm quite sure he knows what he's doing and from his other works, it looks like he likes the line weight to be mostly the same throughout.
Not everyone does their lines in the same way, you know this

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 23:02:28 2017 No.3193801 File: 739 KB, 582x800, CLAIREBEAR.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] everyone hates me I painted grimesy

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 01:14:06 2017 No.3193858 >>3192644 Thanks. Anyone have a link?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 01:48:46 2017 No.3193869 >>3193800 I wouldn't give such a specific critique if I didn't believe in what I was saying. Besides, I'm fully confident that an artist at his level will understand my critique, and can then decide if they find it valuable or not.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 01:53:17 2017 No.3193873

>>3193800
And for the record, no. I completely disagree with you. My advice isn't about preference, it's for the purpose of making it even 'more well made'. Having all your lines be mostly the same throughout is not a style choice. It's a common mistake. And it's often made by people who are just on the cusp of being outstanding. I see it all the time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 02:10:23 2017 No.3193884 >>3193630 I think you're doing a decent job. But you could tap into psychology. Do you know about trypophobia? Use some of that in your design perhaps. Or at least maybe my suggestion will get you thinking and point you in the right direction for ideas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 02:11:41 2017 No.3193885 >>3193630 Oh yah, there's also psychology involving eyes. Look up what disturbs babies. Messing with eyes, cyclops etc. there are certain psychological things we find visually disturbing, I know I've read at least one article on it before.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 02:19:20 2017 No.3193891 >>3193800 Oh yah, forgot to say - if you red the critique you'd know it wasn't about line weight, it was about contrast. Thick vs. thin is just one form of contrast, and he doesn't need to change his line weights to apply what I said.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 02:25:39 2017 No.3193893 >>3193630 Dam, this guy is prolific with this disturbing shit. I actually love looking at it. Grotesque enough to be intriguing but not disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 02:37:39 2017 No.3193896 File: 107 KB, 512x860, V6UMGLM5UJFH6RBG0THQ4Q215K55SP9V_0 (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3189674 im a pretty beginner artist and was wondering if anyone has some advice for improving my drawings?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 02:42:54 2017 No.3193901 need tips on better anatomy, pose, and foreshortening I am going to art college next year (Digital, eastern style accepted) but i am still on beg tier, maybe some tips and book?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 02:43:35 2017 No.3193902 File: 104 KB, 821x611, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3193901 forgot to put my work

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 03:16:32 2017 No.3193914 >>3193896 use lots of photo references, dont stylize your drawings yet

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 03:53:51 2017 No.3193930 File: 110 KB, 2114x1052, ouch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 05:13:46 2017 No.3193955

>>3193869
>>3193873
>>3193891
Nah, I read it. What more contrast do you want from that work? There's not much you could do to improve whatever you're going on about. Curved and straight? Long and short? Angles? There's all that there already, senpai.
Perhaps you can point it out or post an example because I'm not seeing it or I don't get it

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 06:34:57 2017 No.3193984
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>trying to improve, stuck in a rut with no ideas
>some dude says just draw what you like
>fuck around for a while
>finally just draw an anime trap
>then another anime twink
>suddenly three hours of this has gone by

IS THIS THE SECRET

AM I HARNESSING MY OWN BONER IN A POSITIVE WAY

IS THIS HOW I MAKE IT

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 06:42:15 2017 No.3193988 >>3193984 if gay ass shit is what gets you to draw then go for it my dude

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 07:11:39 2017 No.3193997 File: 600 KB, 549x600, brokengirl2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love someone I've never met.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 07:51:29 2017 No.3194019
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Fuck I really want to have similar rendering style as Vanillaware. It's shame tho that there doesn't seem to be any videos about the drawing process anywhere. Maybe some secret moonrune site, but I can't find those.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 09:11:14 2017 No.3194051 >>3193896 This is pro quality and will be in the next OP.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 09:14:23 2017 No.3194053

>>3193984
You'll only get better at drawing gay shit, and it'll be even harder to improve as a whole because everything else you do will pale in comparison. If you're fine drawing gay shit as a profession, that's up to you. I'd recommend learning some discipline, by creating a routine no matter how small, to slowly build up on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 09:15:37 2017 No.3194054 >>3194053 If drawing anime traps is a viable profession sign me the fuck up. I don't draw them exclusively I just really like drawing them atm.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 09:47:51 2017 No.3194084 >>3193930 Jesus christ far left looks too much like me circa senior year of highschool

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 10:11:17 2017 No.3194109 File: 171 KB, 1500x648, STRANGERTHINGScolor5resize.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3193511 Thoughts on colors?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 10:51:05 2017 No.3194149 >>3193930 Funny I used to draw this way primarily with mspaint. It forces you to draw broadly because you have no layers final destination etc.I still do, but only as a joke/for fun.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 11:46:32 2017 No.3194175 >>3193997 story of my life

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 13:27:32 2017 No.3194232
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Guys, this is gonna sound autistic, but how do I make my artworks more appealing? I've been focusing on technique for so long that I completely forgot about what makes a drawing actually charming. The best I can think of is slapping some smiles on my faces, but I know there's more to it than that. Preferably some SFW related stuff, I know I can get some easy points for sexual content.

Pic kinda related.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 13:34:58 2017 No.3194237

>>3193955
You're right, there isn't much there to improve, that's why I gave such specific advice. I could have pointed out some minor issues but felt he'd benefit most from the contrast advice.

It's okay if you don't see it or get it. Unless you're the artist himself, I don't have any reason to explain it to anyone else. I wrote that critique for him. And an artist at his level is most likely going to get what I said.

I don't mean that to be mean or as an insult or anything, you've been really polite and I appreciate that a lot. But that critique was meant for that guy specifically, not for me to be debating with another anon about whether or not my advice was good. I believe in my advice, if you don't, that's fine, you've made yourself clear, and I've made clear that I respectfully disagree.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 13:41:04 2017 No.3194241 >>3194232 >I've been focusing on technique for so long obviously not

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 13:54:32 2017 No.3194253

>>3194232
Definitely need to see your art to answer that question. But as said here, >>3193769, the answer is almost always some form of contrast.

It could also be using more rounded forms, or just content that's appealing, certain exaggerations. Better silhouettes. But it's hard to tell which you need without seeing your art.

If pic related was your art then the issue would not be the linedrawing for example, but it would be the values of your colors.

If you made that drawing in grayscale you'd see how the coat and the skin are both a little too closely related value-wise and it creates a bit of confusion for the eye since they're both relatively flat. (two tones on the coat for shading). Even if they weren't flat it could still create a problem.

Not that it's a terrible piece. Once you get to a certain point the only difference is whether or not you can make something look 'even better' not necessarily that anything is wrong/needs fixing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 13:54:33 2017 No.3194254 >>3194241 By "technique" I meant more along the lines of how to make a drawing look more polished, although I know you can put how to make a drawing charming under that category. Sorry for being vague.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:00:31 2017 No.3194259

>>3194253
Oh, I didn't make that drawing, but I used it as an example to show that I'm looking to make my drawings more... emotionally charged? Obviously the drawing isn't the most professional but it definitely conveys the feelings of bewilderment and urgency, plus the overall movement just seems very appealing. My analysis is probably more subjective than anything, but I prefer it over a drawing that's professionally done yet lifeless, if that makes sense.

I guess I'm starting to find the answer to my question, but are there any resources out there that describe how to convey emotion in terms of the flow of a figure and expressions? Maybe there's a more appropriate thread for these kinds of questions.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:02:10 2017 No.3194261

>>3194237
I asked for an example because I think your critique is straight bullshit but I'd like to know where you're coming from. Don't just brush it off and say the guy will get it and you have no reason to explain it to anyone else. That just makes it seem like you're making stuff up. Besides, what if he doesn't get it either?

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:04:16 2017 No.3194263
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to play vidya or to doodle

>>3193769
I appreciate your concern, and I do try to take it to heart. contrast in line weight I get, i've only started to pay attention to that earlier this year and I do want to eventually get to the point where I am capable of using line weight to indicate light source and give attention to certain areas. but I have no idea about the curve part, would you care to give an example?
For now im only trying to make do and see what I can come up with in this current state, and just trying things out really.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:07:03 2017 No.3194265

>>3194259
That's a good question, I'm not sure. I had to study it myself over the years. But I'm not aware of any books covering it, though they might be out there. Maybe another anon has some info.

Sometimes animation books touch on the subject. That's about all I can think of. I think you're doing the right thing trying to answer it yourself in the meantime.

What I do is similar, I've been doing it for years. I look at my favorite art and ask 'why' is this more appealing than most other artists.

Good artists to study will be a bit subjective, because you'll have different tastes, but whoever you pick will most likely be a top notch artist, even if your tastes are slightly different. Meaning you'll still be learning good stuff that reaches a lot of people regardless.

When it comes to learning appeal I usually am drawn to masters of composition. Waterhouse, Amano, Frazetta, etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:10:23 2017 No.3194266 Thinking about giving myself a concussion to jump start my cerebrum. Thoughts?

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:11:57 2017 No.3194268

>>3194261
I don't think you do think its bs or you wouldn't be so interested in it. Sorry, already told you not interested in a debate.

>>3194263
Sure. It's mostly to do with length of lines and being too repetitive with your lines, what you're after is a contrast of inner shapes, and lines.

After I eat I'll get the redpen and try to point it out to you.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:18:14 2017 No.3194273

>>3194265
Thanks for the response, gonna take a journey through my favorite works and try to look into them further. Looking into animation books doesn't sound like a bad idea, especially since I'm somewhat interested in animation. This should be a fun process.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:19:36 2017 No.3194275

>>3194263
By the way I'm 90% sure you're just the debating guy trying to get a response out of me, but if you promise not to be a jerk in response, like if you're actually interested in this bit of help, and aren't taking advantage of me just to argue with me, then I'll be happy to point it out.

Afterall the whole point of my critique -was- to help not for a weird debate with anon's who just want to be angry and debate me for no reason.

Sorry for having to type this msg but this is 4chan so I know it's a high possibility.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:20:14 2017 No.3194276

>>3194232
depends on your definition of 'appealing' is since it's a very vague term. it can be artstyle choices, attention to detail in drawing and/or concept, or even simply just good ideas in general.
get a better idea of what you actually want, then ask again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:20:38 2017 No.3194277 >>3194273 You're welcome :)

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:23:26 2017 No.3194281

>>3194276
Appealing is not as vague as some people think. When trying for appeal you're looking for the rule not the exceptions. That's why guys generally agree on certain girls as attractive, or why everyone here gives advice about perspective and so on, because certain things are appealing almost universally. It's biological.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:26:08 2017 No.3194282

>>3194275
well I am that 10% possibility but I guess I can't prove it anyway, thought posting what I just drew would do but I guess not.
You can just find a pic that suits your theory and point out the points, I only want to get a better understanding of what you're talking about.
i'm probably going to be asleep by the time you get your example ready because timezone differences. will be checking it out when I wake.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:32:36 2017 No.3194286
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>>3194263
Lad, I'm interested because I think it's bullshit, plus your words are unclear. Some noob might read it and get confused or something. Even the person it's for only picked up on line weight. All you had to do was post a picture with stuff circled or something. I guess I'll just have to wait for your redline.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:33:52 2017 No.3194288 >>3194268 >>3194286 Whoops, my bad

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:39:10 2017 No.3194294 File: 723 KB, 1402x1875, 0CDE2DD4-80AF-4FE0-A4B6-94C0976DC752.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3194282 Cool, I’m very happy that you were the 10%

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:44:55 2017 No.3194299

>>3194286
Your pic is actually the perfect example of how to do it right. It has a larger contrast between large and small, straights and curves.

Different kinds of curves, not so similar to each other than they distract. And a clear focal point, framed by dark vs. light, and big vs. small.

One angle vs. another is also used there.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:51:53 2017 No.3194308

>>3194286
>>3194261

Also, know that I understand because you spent the last two days arguing with me you won't admit I had a point, and you'll just argue with my redline or pretend not to see it.

And of course you could also say 'you had a point but it wouldn't make that big of a difference'. Which wouldn't be true, but would be a sort of more humble way to still keep arguing with me.

I'm ready for that, but also know that I'm not interested in a debate and I'm done arguing back.

I just wanted to help, and so I'm sorry if I don't reply to your next thing. It's really tiring for me, and again though, I appreciate that you were at least kind and polite, at least up until you said my thing was bs. Which is fine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:54:24 2017 No.3194310 >>3194294 what a clusterfuck of a redline

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:59:17 2017 No.3194313 >>3194310 >>3194308, called it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:59:28 2017 No.3194314 >>3194294 >composition is more important than anatomy >in a redline post work lmfao

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 15:00:59 2017 No.3194316 >>3194314 >>3194310 = >>3194286

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 15:08:11 2017 No.3194323 File: 54 KB, 736x490, 380A5167-4A26-4B79-8464-E4C16399EB4F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3194282 Here is to show what I mean by how clustered your silhouette is. Here by filling it in you can see that it doesn’t read very clearly

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 15:15:33 2017 No.3194325

>>3194282
Here is a painting from master artist Yoshitaka Amano, to show you the difference that line contrast makes and why I wanted to share this with you. I think you are very close to being outstanding and with this advice it would really take your art to the next level.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 15:16:12 2017 No.3194326 File: 260 KB, 877x1113, A62730BF-42A9-4318-B44C-354B60032F99.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3194294 Forgot the attachment here is the Amano painting

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 15:26:47 2017 No.3194341
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>>3194294
Surely, you must be joking with me. All you did was add red on what's there, and scribbled extra lines all over. You didn't even explain what or why, just wrote the same words again so their meaning is still lost. How can thighs in the background draw your eyes from a detailed face and horns? You didn't even pay attention to the horns.
The things you seem to be trying to point out happen naturally depending on what you draw.
It's fucking nothing.

>>3194299
The only contrast here is the eyes and hair are coloured in

As expected of a fucking crab

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 15:33:45 2017 No.3194348 File: 338 KB, 538x572, 1504120756954.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3194326 >bad redlines >thinks contrast has anything to do with line-weight my sides

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 15:37:47 2017 No.3194351 >>3194341 >is told argument won't be responded to anymore >keeps arguing >>3194348 >same guy

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 15:46:30 2017 No.3194357 [DELETED]

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>>3193630
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/s3LSy9Pm_tA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 15:48:06 2017 No.3194359
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>>3193893
Yeah, personally while its one of the guys I look for for inspiration, sometimes I feel it just goes way too far.
Something like this for example, while cool, feels like its missing its orgins.
i.e. in >>3193630
You can easily tell what they were and how they've been changed, but in pic related its almost completely different with just the face and a few select parts here and there. And at this point you might as well throw out the theme as a whole and just draw cool looking monstrosities rather than deformed girls.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 15:49:02 2017 No.3194360 File: 59 KB, 640x640, hdge-technical-statue-no-7-calne-ca-ca-crab-ver-409211.2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3193630 inspiration? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3LSy9Pm_tA

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 16:22:24 2017 No.3194372 File: 222 KB, 821x611, geb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3193902

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 16:55:01 2017 No.3194387 File: 800 KB, 1516x928, z3z1b.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ebbbbbeb idk how i should go about colour

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 17:09:57 2017 No.3194395 >>3194387 by drawing good faces first.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 17:32:38 2017 No.3194420
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>>3193695
hi im late

im bad at teaching so i just painted it over

eyes are always culprit please look at how the lids wrap around the eyes

rest is just understanding facial planes

please forgive my trash skill

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 17:39:21 2017 No.3194427 >>3194420 Aha yes, those are the kind of eyes that would've made the difference. I shouldn't have settled for some cross between anime and realism and gone for one or the other. Thanks for the paintover.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 17:44:57 2017 No.3194437

Good lord how did you go from this >>3192541

To this? >>3194109

You should try finishing something less ambitious anon, It seems like you're rushing through every single step without proper knowledge. It's just making a mess for everything else you add.

You can cover a lot of mistakes by painting, but you really need to practise more fundies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 18:07:56 2017 No.3194458 File: 331 KB, 640x930, ptresiz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] first thing in color since years. critique greatly appreciated

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 18:33:04 2017 No.3194468 >>3194458 face needs more love, but other than that nice job my man

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 18:56:53 2017 No.3194481 >>3194437 >less ambitious But I have so much ambition anon. As much as I hate it you're probably right. I'm not going to abandon this though. I'm going to return to the line art phase and leave it as line art

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 18:59:32 2017 No.3194482

>>3194458
Judging by the facial features I would say that you were going for something attractive but granny hands and sickly face skin color say otherwise. To make girl attractive lose all the plane changes on hands, arms and neck, find some attractive reference for hands, give face more warmth. If you are going for more of a "girl is also a monster underneath" make the face more attractive and hands even more grotesque

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 19:04:21 2017 No.3194484 >>3194482 thats very good advice, thanks !

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 19:08:54 2017 No.3194486 >>3194482 Could you explain what you mean by "plane changes"?

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 19:11:38 2017 No.3194487
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>>3189724
your bodies and poses lack flow and rhythm. you know anatomy technically (for the most part, save a few bizarrely glaring examples, you're curiously bad at feet for someone who loves asanagi) but the execution is messy and feels haphazard when compared to the faces where you intentionally smooth over landmarks for the sake of silhouette and shape design (fancy way of saying you draw very anime faces), a thing you're doing the exact opposite of with the body. this leaves your heads and bodies at a stark contrast stylistically

you either need to pay much closer attention to the shapes and silhouettes of the body parts you draw or change the way you draw faces cause they aren't currently working together like they should

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 19:14:08 2017 No.3194489 >>3194487 post your work

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 19:15:37 2017 No.3194494 >>3194482 >granny hands I can't unsee it now thanks. I agree with the rest but not the arm. The collarbone looks broken and needs a fixing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 19:21:00 2017 No.3194497 >>3194494 yea kinda fucked up pretty bad on the hand. Next time i am going to make it deliberately grotesque to hide the fact that i fail and drawing pretty girls

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 19:54:23 2017 No.3194515 File: 741 KB, 775x1000, saria_wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 19:58:15 2017 No.3194519 File: 120 KB, 407x407, MingLee.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3194487 Autism It's called sttylization for a reason Go read some loomis and go to bed okay? Degenerate faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 20:00:59 2017 No.3194521 >>3194519 >muh style

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 20:07:12 2017 No.3194526 >>3194282 Note, >>3194487 is not me. Not that I mind them giving you a critique too, I just want you to know I'm not the same person. (I am-->) >>3194326 >>3194323 >>3194294 So if anything more comes after that, it's not done by me.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 20:08:10 2017 No.3194527
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>>3194481
It's good to have ambition anon, but you need to slow down and properly learn the little things, no small study is a waste of time so long as you learn from it, and it's additions of all the little things you learn during them that make every great piece look great.
Pic related is a quick lighting example of what you could have done here >>3193350 and >>3193511

It takes time to learn how different objects reflect light, and how that light bounces around the piece onto surfaces behind direct light.

Do small lighting studies of individual objects made from different materials, you'll gain better understanding of how to structure bigger pieces and actually satisfy your ambition, right now you're trying to run before you can walk.

As frustrating as it is, you can't skip or rush learning.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 20:08:27 2017 No.3194528 >>3194515 Nice, cute work :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 20:11:45 2017 No.3194532 >>3194487 Thanks for supporting >>3193769 by wording it differently, and pointing out that it is a clash of styles. Appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 20:14:34 2017 No.3194535 >>3194395 stuff it niggy

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 20:15:00 2017 No.3194537 In addition to >>3194527 I also just noticed you seem to be using the lasso tool to do your lighting? use a brush unless you're trying to cell shade, which is an entirely different game.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 20:35:15 2017 No.3194570

>>3194341
i mean what did you expect? Ic is full of salty jealous crabs who hide behind their screens and trash talk other artists. It's like that quote: stop pointing out a small piece of wood in your neighbors eye while you yourself have a lamp post stuck in yours. Most people here put others down to feel good about themselves. Selfish jealous shitters is a good description of probably 90% of ic. Now if you tell one of these shitters to post their own or redline (which they never do) it isn't that hard to believe that the work is garbage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 20:47:35 2017 No.3194588 >>3194487 >that red(black)line another dunning kruger trying to nitpick a good artist's work. They never comment on the lower level ones either, fucking shitters What the fuck do you think you're trying to show with that shit?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 21:15:42 2017 No.3194613 >>3194570 Except you're responding to someone who was actually just doing what you said. That wasn't the person who provided actual advice or redline, that was someone angrily just crapping on the person who did.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 21:19:51 2017 No.3194616 >>3194588 How do you know they don't comment on lower levels? Are you standing there behind them? Is this place NOT anonymous? And in fact I know that at least one of the redliners here has helped people in beg a number of times.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 21:24:19 2017 No.3194621 >>3194616 not him but now that you mention it there are shitty redlines of lower levels too >>3193734

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 21:32:10 2017 No.3194630 File: 142 KB, 1000x757, 1509245743663.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3194621 It's not really bad. >>3194294 is the same as pic related, taken from the archive here: >>3187366 same handwriting, has definitely helped people.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 21:44:31 2017 No.3194645

>>3194613
>That wasn't the person who provided actual advice or redline

He didn't do a good job, this time redline guy shat the bed.

> that was someone angrily just crapping on the person who did.

If you're talking about >>3194341 he actual gave good points to redline guy and in return he just ignored it. Stop defending a shitposter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 21:46:29 2017 No.3194646 >>3194630 the one in this thread looks bad the one from beg is fine most of the replies to the one in this thread are negative too so I think it is bad not just looks bad to me it just looks like he wants bulgier forms for no real reason

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 21:57:13 2017 No.3194657

>>3194646
no no, it's pointing out the already bulgey forms, saying to use more straight lines and more variety. more long lines to balance the short ones. its not negative at all, it all started here >>3193769 then someone disagreed and started arguing, here:: >>3193800.

personally i don't believe >>3193800.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 22:00:27 2017 No.3194660 >>3193930 yev san this is probably a dumb question but what brush do you use ?

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 22:01:25 2017 No.3194662

>>3194645
>he actual gave good points to redline guy and in return he just ignored it

it seems like the opposite to me. I totally understand how > thighs in the background draw your eyes from a detailed face and horns

and i can also understand why you wouldn't respond to a never ending stream of hate

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 22:01:40 2017 No.3194663 >>3194660 mspaint pencil tool

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 22:02:27 2017 No.3194665 >>3194660 not the dude but my guess is ms paint

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 22:05:14 2017 No.3194669 File: 1.02 MB, 1842x3829, cowgirl (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I colored it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 00:33:46 2017 No.3194831 File: 571 KB, 1175x1262, digdin digdin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wanted to make good lineart here, but I got kinda nervous and I guess I fucked it up. Any tips for lineart? >>3193764 >>3194515 >>3189973 >>3189724 nice <3

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 00:56:09 2017 No.3194850 File: 269 KB, 1012x800, 7348727943.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Need advice again

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 01:22:43 2017 No.3194870 >>3194831 Thanks for being so kind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 01:25:27 2017 No.3194872 File: 145 KB, 934x896, 1455377807395.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If anyone in this thread can answer my question I posted here >>3194860 I'd appreciate the help.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 03:01:11 2017 No.3194980 >>3194872 you literally got 4 responses on a typically slow board lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 03:29:16 2017 No.3195009 File: 294 KB, 678x900, New canvas.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 03:37:03 2017 No.3195014 >>3195009 Beautiful render anon! Really nice. Lots of skill. I almost want to tell you not to come back if you color it, so that you don't get crapped on by the jerks who roam around here. But yah, good stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 05:42:00 2017 No.3195053 >>3194326 this is nice dude, really an eye opener for me, shame that ic is always defensive when they don't understand stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 06:25:27 2017 No.3195062 File: 459 KB, 750x1000, 1500972720841.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any good render tutorials for visual novel CG looking stuff aka standard anime art?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 09:40:43 2017 No.3195146 >>3194527 Thanks can I follow you anywhere? This was really good advice and I'm very appreciative

Anonymous Sat Nov 4 09:44:39 2017 No.3195148
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(I already posted this is /beg/ but I got told to put it here so,,)
I'm trying out a new style, but something seems off about the face? Could someone please red line it or tell me if something's wrong??

Anonymous Sat Nov 4 10:02:44 2017 No.3195164
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>>3194294
Alright, I get your point. it's not an epiphany but I get it. your redline isn't that helpful, but >>3194326 does make sense. I'll try to look into that, thanks for bringing that to my attention.

but seriously man, next time you're redlining, use a thinner brush, especially for writing, covering up my line with yours doesn't work, the entire point of redlining is to show the difference between the original and the "correct way". here's wishing you and I can both progress.

incredibly lazy today after doing contact work for about 8 hours so here's an older image for identity's sake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 10:04:11 2017 No.3195165 >>3195164 *contract im tired

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 12:00:02 2017 No.3195245 >>3195014 Thanks you anon. I've been here for 5 years and I've already gotten used to those things :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 12:05:30 2017 No.3195254 >>3195053 Thanks, you pretty much nailed it. I honestly don't know why they have to lose their minds when they don't understand a point. Then I remind myself its probably really little kids and its probably wrong of me to argue with them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 12:07:05 2017 No.3195257 >>3195245 Welcome :) And glad to hear you know what's up.

Anonymous Sat Nov 4 12:14:17 2017 No.3195266

>>3195164
>the entire point of redlining is to show the difference between the original and the "correct way"

Yah but in this case there is no 'correct way' to show you. If I did my own interpretation of where you should have used long lines and short lines, straights vs. curves, I'd just get a ton of people arguing with me.

In this case I'm showing you how to make something 'better'. Not showing you you did anything wrong.

Anyway, you're welcome. I took a lot of crap just making that point. And even though you may not think it's an epiphany, when you try to incorporate it into your art, you're going to realize its extremely powerful, and has the ability to take you to the next level. That's what I believe.

And I wouldn't have gave that advice if I didn't understand it. No offense and of course no one will believe it, but I have more experience than you do.

People on ic can't recognize that because some of us don't go around showing off. I didn't make that post to be a jerk, but because I really wanted to help.

Anyway, you're welcome and I wish we can both progress too.

Anonymous Sat Nov 4 12:42:05 2017 No.3195294
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>>3195266
>Yah but in this case there is no 'correct way' to show you.

Adjust your stability and not use a brush size that clutters the canvas, retard. Admit you did a shitty job and not pivot away from it.

>In this case I'm showing you how to make something 'better'.

It's called Alternative Art/Stylization thread for a reason and not Draw Stuff that I like: the Thread.

>Not showing you you did anything wrong.

This >>3194294 says otherwise.

>carves steal my attention away from face

Don't insert how YOU feel about it, dumb statement.

>Remember composition is more important than anatomy

Any professional artist would say you are wrong since it doesn't matter if you looks pretty if the anatomy is way off than the viewer would see the errors and would dismiss the art altogether.

In the end you're basically arguing the subjective way of how he draws, which shouldn't be the case. If you wanted to help you would've taken your time and shown it, but you didn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 13:34:04 2017 No.3195331 >>3195146 In this thread of wildly mixed opinions, this is probably a terrible idea, but here you go. http://desdraws.tumblr.com/ Happy to have been of help.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 14:22:58 2017 No.3195361 >>3195009 that nose , lmao!

Anonymous Sat Nov 4 14:34:53 2017 No.3195370

>>3195294

>In the end you're basically arguing the subjective way of how he draws, which shouldn't be the case. If you wanted to help you would've taken your time and shown it, but you didn't.

The actual artist admitted there was a point and then said thanks for having it brought to their attention. 2 posts of explanation, 2 posts of redline examples, and 1 post of filling in the silhouette and you think time wasn't taken to show it.

This place would be a lot better if you stopped being defensive at strangers for helping and start helping others yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 14:41:06 2017 No.3195373 >>3195294 >typical /ic/ post. Person who doesn't know how to do something criticises someone who does.

Anonymous Sat Nov 4 15:07:03 2017 No.3195388
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>>3195164
i tried to change stuff while keeping it inline with your style (not perfect, i know) to hopefully get more at what i think the others in this thread have been trying to say. i also tried to clean up some of the parts where i was confused by what was going on so apologies for probably also misinterpreting some of the things you were going for.

also also the figure felt a little off balance to me so i rotated them a bit. neat trick i learned years ago for relatively static poses (read: not runny/jumpy/actiony) is that you can drop a line straight down from the clavicle parallel to the force of gravity to get a good sense of where the center of their weight is. hope i was able to help! (and if not, hopefully i wasn't too annoying)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 15:07:16 2017 No.3195389 No one here has any idea what they're talking about. None of us are going to make it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 15:10:13 2017 No.3195396 >>3195389 One could claim that if none of us make it, we've all made it already.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 16:31:06 2017 No.3195494 >>3194528 >>3194831 thank you kind anons >>3194831 I don't know too much about digital line art, but perhaps you could push the line weight more to imply perspective, kind of like you did with the left foot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 16:56:25 2017 No.3195529 >>3195527 >>3195527 >>3195527 >>3195527

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 17:02:21 2017 No.3195533 >>3195389 Good thing no one crits my stuff then

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 17:02:24 2017 No.3195534 >>3195529 2early, my guy

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 21:32:36 2017 No.3195787 >>3195389 nigga, I made it a decade ago. I just broken down a bit.

Anonymous Sat Nov 4 21:57:22 2017 No.3195808

If I'm going to be perfectly honest after looking at this thread overall I don't particularly believe in the over analyzation saying how you "didn't like this" or "didn't like that" critique is critique, yes, but an artist is an artist. They choose how they want things to be. In my opinion basic concepts of a drawing shouldn't be commented on if the artist doesn't ask for you to comment on them. I'm not sure if that really has occurred here but I would rather prevent that from happening if it didn't already.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 5 04:00:38 2017 No.3196101 File: 492 KB, 900x2000, Ryuko Pillow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looking for some tips.

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