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3186055 No.3186055 [Reply] [Original]

Does anyone else just take a bunch of screenshots of movies and shows while they are watching it and just use that as ref/study work later on? I've seen it with speed paintings but not so much with drawing. Whenever I look up head reference on google image you generally get these generic 3/4 views with superficial expressions. Not only do movies provide more interesting angles but because actors are able to convey emotion a lot better than a model, you'll get better expressions to study from.

>> No.3186061

Post what you've got please

>> No.3186070
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>>3186061
It's a bit of a pain in the ass to post all these screenshot s because of all the verfication crap I have to do

>> No.3186071
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>> No.3186074
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>>3186071

>> No.3186076
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>>3186074

>> No.3186078
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>>3186076
That's it for now. Aren't these so much better than those generic stock photos?

>> No.3186101

>>3186078
no, these are just as worst. you have a giant playbar at the bottom and shitty subtitles for gods know why you would want that. how is this better than watermarks?

>> No.3186106

Are you unable to take screenshots without the timeline and subtitles?

>> No.3186108
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>>3186101
they're all clearly labeled head reference, takes 2 seconds to crop. Not OP but I also do this.

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>>3186101
How can you miss the point this much? Read the OP you fucking retard

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>> No.3186114

honestly, unless im getting bored, im just so into the movie/show that i forget to screenshot

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>>3186114
Here is a tip. Do it with music videos. They have a new frame every few seconds now.

>> No.3186128

>>3186110
no but youre fucking retarded for comparing stock photos to this. stock photos=/movies you fucking dimwitt

>> No.3186132
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>>3186106
Yeah, but cropping takes more time. Anyway, who gives a shit if it's cropped or not? The reference is right there. Furthermore, these weren't meant to be used as reference for you guys, I was just trying to get a general idea out there. In other words, take your own screenshots.

>> No.3186133

>>3186128
How am I retarded for comparing stock photos to movie screenshots? Obviously, they aren't the same, but they are both references that people generally study from. What I'm suggesting in my post is that taking screenshots have advantages that you can't find with stock photos. Expressions are more natural and you can usually get more interesting angles. The drawback is that the images aren't as clear.

>> No.3186141
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I also do it with video games

>> No.3186160

>>3186133
and my point is neither is better, they're both reference who gives a fuck. im not gonna go thru a fucking movie to get shitty refs. theyre only good source of refs when you need it not when you DONT. when i want to watch a movie or a show ill fucking watch it, not be autistic enough to stop every fucking second to take a snippet for later on, literal autism. you gonna take pics while ur gf is watching the show too? fucking weirdo.

>> No.3186174

>>3186160
What part of, there are certain things that movies offer that stock photos don't went over your small brain. Wow, going to a movie and taking spending 1 second to press windows+prtscr is so hard. The fact that you think this is so demanding shows a lot about your work ethic you NGMI. Professional artists travel to different countries to shoot up reference, Leonardo da vinci used to dissect corpses to learn more about the anatomy, if you can't pause the movie for 1 second when you find an interesting expression or angle to save it as reference, then you clearly are a lazy sack of shit.

>> No.3186176

I do this. It feels more natural than stock photos, or even just regular photography (obviously excluding candid shots).

>> No.3186183

>>3186055
Good movie stills are excellent ways to learn from others about good composition, palette and values. The sum of these fundamentals create a good atmosphere or vibe.

https://www.cinema5d.com/film-color-schemes-cinematic-color-design/

has more information about it

>> No.3186204
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Yes, I do it with videos

>> No.3186236

>>3186174
what part of watching movies for entertainment do you not understand? when professional artists want to look for references and shit they fucking need, they go look for it, how is that so fucking hard to comprehend? your argument is invalid because you dont even know what the fuck youre talking about.

>> No.3186240

>ITT: People "collecting" references for studies that they will never do

I know you want to justify watching TV as being productive, but it's not. Get back to work, scrubs.

>> No.3186250

>>3186240
THANK YOU!

>> No.3186255
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>>3186132
quick study

>> No.3186267

>>3186055
Yep, and people don't usually recognize the source which is a lot more common with pictures found through tumblr or google images.

>> No.3186268

Yeah, I do it with everything I watch and play. Sometimes I'll even go through it frame by frame and sketch out all the frames. Or just draw without pausing if you want to do some memory exercises. It's a good way to learn composition, lighting, framing, etcetc. Best to draw while you watch, rather than make a collection though.

>> No.3186272

>>3186236
You can be entertained and also use it as a learning experience you lazy sack of shit. Because I'm a comic book writer, when I'm watching movies, I'm either analyzing the storytelling, the composition, the mood, the expressions, etc. There are times when I do it purely for entertainment but that's generally not the case because unlike you I try to be productive with my time.
>>3186240
Speak for yourself. I'm sketching out these screenshots as I type.
>>3186255
Pretty good, blog?

>> No.3186274

>>3186268
>drawing and watching
do one or the other u shitlords

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>>3186055
This is my favourite screenshot I've taken, but I haven't drawn it.

>> No.3186276

>>3186274
It's the same as being outside with a sketchbook and drawing people who are passing by. But I know, you're just shitposting.

>> No.3186278

>>3186055
https://the.hitchcock.zone/wiki/1000_Frames_of_Hitchcock

https://film-grab.com/

https://movie-screencaps.com/

https://screenmusings.org/

https://disneyscreencaps.com/movie-directory/

you're welcome

>> No.3186280

>>3186272
you must be a woman because you wont admit that you're wrong.
>watching tv
>productive
kys ngmi

>> No.3186284

>>3186276
>watching tv is the same as watching a stranger across the street
nice bait faggot

now you want to tell me looking at a model is the same as watching tv too?

>> No.3186286

>>3186278
Thank you.

>> No.3186288

>>3186284
An artist should always have a sketchbook in their hand and analyzing the world around them. There's nothing wrong with drawing while you watch something when you were going to watch something anyway. Bringing your studies to your breaks is not counterproductive. It doesn't mean that's the only thing you do, nor the only way you study. You can do both, you know, both serious studying where you concentrate and relaxed studying where you sketch along to your entertainment. Why do you think it has to be one or the other?

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i did this with some old french movies

>> No.3186296

>>3186288
because drawing is a mental strain and so is focusing, humans are not built to multitask and everyone believes they are muh listening to music while drawing and breathing all at the same time! you cant watch a movie and study, because you have not only visuals but audio impairing your thinking, theres so much shit thats going and on and distracting you, its literally impossible unless of course youre doing shitty doodles, which is equivalent to breathing

>> No.3186297

>>3186296
By that logic, watching anything in front of you and drawing it is too much of a mental strain. The world is busy around you and you're trying to draw it when it's constantly pulling you out of attention with all it's daily life noises, so you shouldn't draw it at all?

>> No.3186311

Hoarders who like to collect reference more than drawing and people who don't use reference on a daily basis are equally bad.

>> No.3186312

>>3186297
yes, if you focus your eyes. you have to understand that our peripheral vision is what take up most of our vision, our focus range is the size of pea the rest is low res, and focusing takes up a lot of energy, if you focus on an object everything around it disappears from your brain which goes to show just how much we are actually seeing. the point is you watch movies for entertainment. if you want to study, you pick your subject focus on it and draw a back and forth thing. you can do that with movies, but good luck finishing the damn thing about 10 hours.

>> No.3186315

>>3186312
So what you're saying is, everyone who draws outside, such as, in parks, at cafe's or busy cities, is making a huge mistake and they'll never get anything done or learn anything?

>> No.3186318

>>3186315
i just answered that u dimwitt, its a back and forth thing, NOT multitasking. focus, look back and draw.

>> No.3186323

>>3186055
HD animal documentaries are literally the best reference material for animals.

>> No.3186324

>>3186318
And you can't look back and forth while a movie is playing? You realize you said:

>good luck finishing the damn thing about 10 hours
Which means you're saying you can't understand how someone lets a movie play while looking back and forth, when it's exactly like looking back and forth in reality. Like reality you can do both, detailed paintings, or quick gist sketches. All I'm understanding here is that you don't seem to be a fan of quick gist sketches.

>> No.3186326

I just tried it with a few videos and stopping the video mid movement makes it really blurry. Imo not worth it without high framerate videos.

>> No.3186329

>>3186324
because thats not the point, you said studying. gestures are loose and simple and nothing detailed so the only thing youre learning is energy, movement and possibly proportions and perspective to a certain degree. studying requires a lot more effort and thats what this whole discussion was all about.

>> No.3186330
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>>3186323
There are some amazing pictures in planet earth.

>> No.3186332

>>3186329
Gesturing is part of studying.

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>>3186330
Here a frog kicking a wasp away.

>> No.3186340

>>3186332
its not really, because it almost falls in line with doodling. its nothing detailed as i just said. its fast and loose. so its terrible for draftsmanship because you cant focus on your lines, you dont color, theres no sense of lighting or form. its just lines that show movement, nothing more nothing less.what if you want to study all the above? you have to stop the fucking movie, and in rl situations, the person has to be still for a good chunk of the time.

>> No.3186357

>>3186255
Nice anon

>> No.3186362

>>3186340
As someone who studied everything except for gesturing for many years, I have to say it's wrong to disregard the importance of it. I disregarded it for a long time and my work has suffered for it. I can render and detail very well, but the foundation of my work has been stunted by being stiff and lifeless, until I started to take gestures seriously. If you're already good at gestures and they come naturally to you, maybe you won't see the issue, but it's honestly not something that should be entirely disregarded just because some people find it easier than others. Believe it or not, some people can completely fuck up their art by not realizing the importance of being able to understand the amount of information you can gain from learning how to push a few simple lines. It's not a doodle. It's gathering as much information as you can of your subject, as quickly as you can, as fast as the second they walk by and putting it on paper with as much simplicity as possible. It's a different skillset than details.

>> No.3186599

>>3186055
>Netflix UI in every screenshot
This would trigger the fuck out of the autist in me. Like when someone leaves the cursor on the screen when a video is playing. Anyway, I screencap what I'm watching all the time. I use MPV and youtube-dl for everything. For animation I'll often set an A-B loop and slow the speed down on neat scenes to be able to absorb each frame.

>> No.3186784
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You clearly have a live for cinematography and storytelling. Also, it's fine to use whatever method it takes to reach the finished product.

Results are the only thing that matters

>> No.3186840

>>3186291
/fa/ pic

>> No.3186858

>>3186240
my nigga

>> No.3186860

>>3186055
my autism activates anytime i see a good image.
i use snipping tool and *snip,snip* BAM! Bob's your fucking uncle.

it's a shame though. Amateurs like myself are completely incapable of deciphering anything useful from complex subject matter. it's all just color shapes to me.

>> No.3186890

>>3186784
> tfw you start at the recognition path, only to reach the procrastination-to-bored path throughout life

>> No.3186901

>>3186128
You must be a troll. Nobody could possibly be this stupid. Under normal circumstances I'd try to explain it to someone but you're so incredibly fucking retarded that you should just chop off your balls so we don't get more of you.

>> No.3187879

>>3186055
Since I'm learning anatomy, I use porn.

>> No.3188121

Yea i got hundreds of them lost somewhere within my ref folders

>> No.3189019
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>>3186055
Not often, but it has happened.

>> No.3189033

>>3186055
I take screenshots of music videos sometimes. They have some interesting lighting, composition and graphical elements you don't see in movies. Not something I do often because I don't take a screenshot unless I know for sure I plan to do something with it.

>> No.3189042

I think it's a good idea, might start doing this myself now. While you're at it, drawing shots from films is a good way of practicing composition if you pick a good film for it.

>> No.3189082
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>be into some fictional canon
>want to draw content related to that universe
>assclowns in this thread super convinced this is WRONG and you should only do one thing at a time, as if multi-tasking hadn't been firmed established in modern work ethic for decades.
>thousands of artists listen to music while drawing
>most westerners relate to reality now through indoctrinated media like movies, tv, and games. but fuck trying to mix drawing into all that because it's WRONG to do two things at once.
>plenty of artists seem to require a plot or mental trance to enable their creativity
>nah fuck all that shit. you just become The Camera and draw uninspired meatbodies for a dead academic culture.

>> No.3189085

>>3186055
I don't watch movies/tv ;_;

>> No.3189100

I sometimes go on netflix, pick a random show, a random episode, a random scene and then listen to the line the actor says and sketch a character based on what they say and how they say it. I try not to reference the physical movement itself though the designs of the character are usually similar to the actor.

>> No.3189107

>>3189082
I'm not really sure what your point is.
But I think sulking up as much media as possible is a great way to increase all kinds of knowledges surrounding art.
And film/music/audiobooks/etc are great because then you can get all that input while simultaneously working on your actual art.