/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3185667]

What are the differences between modern art and post modern art?

[Anonymous No.3185674]

>>3185667
Modern art is smart artists making retarded art skillfully. Post modern art is retarded artists making retarded art retardedly.

[Anonymous No.3185679]

>>3185674
Example?

[Anonymous No.3185681]

>>3185667
what a ugly bitch. Get a better taste in woman anon, or you ngmi.

[Anonymous No.3185683]

>>3185674
This actually makes sense.

[Anonymous No.3185684]

>>3185679
dali vs period blood art

[Anonymous No.3185685]

>>3185681
Tou probs like flat korean women with so much cosmetic surgery that they look like lady boys and if you do then your opinion is invalid.

[Anonymous No.3185687]

>>3185681
You probavlt like flat korean women with so much cosmetic surgery that they look like lady boys and if you do then your opinion is invalid.

[Anonymous No.3185689]

>>3185681


You probably like flat korean women with so much cosmetic surgery that they look like lady boys and if you do then your opinion is meaningless.

[Anonymous No.3185691]

>>3185684
Soo if what you say is true that would make the young british artists post modern.

[Anonymous No.3185695]

>>3185685
No. I like beautiful woman, with a nice looking nose, good and delicate proportions and every facial feature on its place, not that potato you posted here with ugly make up, fake hair and bitch clothing. Look at her nose, what a potato, and how close are her eyes and how fat is her face, jesus. I like giant tits too, but they are beautiful in beautiful woman! Face>boobs. Delete this image from ur PC and get a better taste now!

[Anonymous No.3185771]

>>3185695
Post your waifu

[realalienimage.jpg No.3185785]

>>3185667
I Hand knows my cock 100% better than that asian moneypitt ever would, I'm no roobe

[Anonymous No.3185794]

Modernists praised the future, technology and the avant-garde, so movements like cubism and futurism were made by the same time scientific were being made. Then the world wars started to happen and some thinkers thought "hmm maybe praising blindly technology will lead to more wars and we should stop trying to build a future and instead we should look back and see what went wrong while also looking at the present". So post-modernist movements were born, like pop art, minimal art, neo-expressionism, conceptual, video art, land art and so on.

[Anonymous No.3185795]

>>3185794
*scientific discoveries

[Anonymous No.3185822]

>>3185794
Still can't look at a painting and tell if it's modern or post modern.

[Anonymous No.3185882]

>>3185794
this is so wrong. the second world war disturbed a lot of artists and this left a huge empty chasm for shitlords like Warhol to take stage as they were a complete rejection of the art culture that had reached a dead end. they became famous without any artistic merit as they believed the fame itself generated artwork. there was no thought behind it any more than faggot memers put into their pathetic attempts for fame.

[Anonymous No.3185883]

>>3185882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejr9KBQzQPM

[Anonymous No.3186000]

>>3185674
Well put.

[Anonymous No.3186011]

>>3185667
The thread is shit but post more pics of this semen demon please

[Anonymous No.3186122]

>>3185667
>>3185667

modern art was a reaction to WWI

post-modern art was a reaction to Pop Art, and was mostly a 70s, 80s movement.

they really don't have anything to do with each other, unfortunately.

any connection made between them is going to be some contrived, whiny nonsense attempting to equate the legitimate despair from the destruction of WWI on continental Europe and "muh 80s consumerism is so soul crushing- watch me put this avocado through a printing press."

tl;dr

modernism = reaction to WWI
post-modernism = parody of 80s consumer culture

[Anonymous No.3186148]

>>3186011
where's the source, OP?

[Anonymous No.3186156]

>>3186122
I call everything where the artist doesn't know anything about artistic tradition postmodernism, most pop art artists had no idea what the hell they were doing so I call them postmodernists. And post modernism was quite a pro-consumerist movement, you can clearly see it in their influence of commercial architecture, funny how they like to market themselves as anti consumerism.

[Anonymous No.3187210]

>>3186156
>I call everything where the artist doesn't know anything about artistic tradition postmodernism
And I call my dick 13 inches, doesn't make it so.

[Anonymous No.3187264]

>>3187210
Postmodernist art is unified by nothing except being ignorant of art tradition, you can reword that in a way that makes the artists sound like they are rejecting some established notions but they are actually just hoping suckers buy their crap because they think art is easy to make. And pop art is generally understood by art historians to be the beginning of postmodernism. So fuck your micro dick.

[Anonymous No.3187517]

>>3187264
Sooo everything popular after abstract expressionism is post modern?

[Anonymous No.3187628]

>>3187517
No one works from tradition anymore or at least try to devise some sort of art theories so yes. We are in the dark ages.

[Anonymous No.3187866]

>>3187628
You sound like you think anything more complex and creative than an illustration is bad.

[Anonymous No.3187965]

It's funny because the modernists were the ones that wanted to erase the french academy (academic art based on the old masters) from history and the post-modernists were the ones that looked back and gave academic art a chance to have a spot in history. And to say that tradition is not alive is pure ignorance, contemporary post-modernists know more about art history than most of you neets that only care about kitschy art with naked women

[Anonymous No.3188032]

>>3187965
Sooo other than pop art what else is post modernism?

[Anonymous No.3188062]

>>3185667
Modern art = take away all the design and ornamentation of a house, leaving only a square block
Postmodern art = deconstruct absolutely everything, don't even leave the block, until all you have is a pile of bricks and pipes randomly arragnged

[Anonymous No.3188140]

>>3188032
During the 70s Minimalism came as a reaction to Abstract Expressionism which was a modernist movement, conceptual art and land art were also post-modern movements that reacted against Abstract Expressionism, for example Land Art artists reacted against the art market and all the money being invested in art by rich snobs so they created art that could not be sold and could not be exhibited in a gallery (check Spiral Jetty).
In the 80s Neo-Expressionism came as a reaction to minimalism and conceptual art, they wanted to bring back personal expression and whatnot.

Then a German guy came along and painted hyper realistic paintings of blurred photos and a new movement was born called New European Painting which explored both abstraction and figuration.

These are just a few of some post-modern movements, there are many more, some are great and some are horrible but to say that art theory and art history are dead is nonsense

[Anonymous No.3188143]

>>3188140

Very interesting. If I wanted to learn more about art history do you know of any places I could start? Obviously I could just pick up a book or two but I'd prefer a brief introduction first of each period and style before delving into a style I am attracted to.

Any links would be appreciated!

[Anonymous No.3188151]

wait so i'm really banned from 4chan

[Anonymous No.3188166]

>>3187965
Modernists were very knowledgeable of the old ways a lot of them still had those habits ingrained in their art. Post modernists don't really know anything except that they want to be more flashy than modernists, they don't care about being dumb as rocks when it comes to art theories, they just want to get an A for effort.

Would someone such well studied on architectural history design something so gaudy and ill-proportioned? He is just acknowledging something from the past with no understanding whatsoever as to what made the original sources beautiful. This is postmodernism.

You can see this stuff with your own eyes and it's contrary to what the art books will try to tell you.

[Anonymous No.3188191]

>>3188143
Well if you would like just a brief introduction then I would unironically say wikipedia, from there you can choose some periods and then read some books about those periods. There are also great documentaries out there, for example The shock of the new is a great series to understand the beginning and end of Modernism . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3ne7Udaetg

[Anonymous No.3188197]

>>3188166
Modernists knew the old ways become their art teachers were academics, but that doesn't mean that all modernists loved the past, Marinetti said that all museums should be burned because the art of the past is irrelevant, Greenberg wasn't as extremist but also held the ideology that art from the past belonged just to the past. Of course not all modernists were like these two, but there was a "down with the old, up with the new" type of mentality that was shared by many modernists.

I find the building you posted dull, just like I find Jeff Koon completely horrible and Damien Hirst completely unoriginal and boring, but post-modernism is not just these artists and the horrible artists that the art market pushes to the spotlight, there is great post-modern art and there is horrible post-modern art. But besides all this, post-modernism will eventually die and something new will come along, with less irony and less disregard for craftsmanship.

[Anonymous No.3188200]

>>3188197
*because their art teachers

[Anonymous No.3188233]

>>3187628
Stop talking about art, you obviously know nothing about it.

[Anonymous No.3188239]

>>3188191

Thanks for the link! and I guess I'll be browsing wikipedia for the next few days to read up on different periods. Much app, anon.

[Anonymous No.3188259]

>>3188233
School me then.

[Anonymous No.3188670]

>>3185681
says the black female

[To it. No.3188906]

>>3188670
Black females are hot.

I like them too aswell as Asians.

[Anonymous No.3188907]

>>3185674
Agreed.

[Anonymous No.3189460]

I don't think anyone here actually knows.

[Anonymous No.3189496]

>>3188197
>there is great post-modern art
Could you post an example? I've heard this before but I've haven't seen any of it yet

[Anonymous No.3191398]

>>3189496
What is great for me might not be great for you, but one series of work that I value are Richter's blurred paintings, he's a painter in a time where painting was out of fashion, but he opened new ways.

https://www.gerhard-richter.com/en/art/paintings/photo-paintings/baader-meinhof-56

[Anonymous No.3192173]

>>3185674
sir you are looking at art in all the wrong places.

[Anonymous No.3192186]

>>3192173
If looking at museums and galleries is the wrong place, where is the right place? It really says something about the decay of society if these institutions do not provide good new art anymore.