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Questions & Answers Thread Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:41:58 2017 No.3180867 [Reply] [Original]

Ask and you shall receive. No need to make a thread if you only have a single question. A new Sticky is brewin' (>>3173013), maybe it's time to make some changes to this General too. Please suggest what could improve the Q&A thread.

Don't know where to start? We have multiple stickies >>1579290 → → → → → → and https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj please read them as most of your common woes are here.

Want to build a habit drawing daily? Then LAS is for you: >>3171801 → →

Do you wish to submit your stylized or anime drawings, receive feedback and critique others? Then the Stylization general is for you: >>3179213 → →

Are you a beginner? Do you struggle with drawing boxes? Do you wish to receive critiques from Anonymous? Join us over at the beginner thread: >>3178727 → →

General Draw thread....you know, where the slightly cooler kids post: >>3179774 →

Artbook Thread (hey you got to thread watch this; it's FREE* resources!): >>3178433 → →

If you're into degeneracy then we have something for you, too. The Porn Thread: >>3168287 → →

Animation thread: >>3179702 → →

Old thread: >>3161063 →

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 19:05:22 2017 No.3180890 Any tips to get decent proportions while drawing gestures? I draw too big for the page, my torsos usually turn out too long

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 19:33:54 2017 No.3180911 >>3180867 I can't paste into paint tool sai. no, I'm not trying to paste into a lineart layer. its just refusing to paste anything I copy from outside of sai, and I have no idea why. what do?

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 19:43:59 2017 No.3180919

Kind of a silly question and I'm sure the answer is just "look at more shit" but what do you do with hands/arms?

Legs are easy since they do follow rules of support and motion so its pretty easy to decide where they go. But you can do anything with hands. My default pose in reality involves my hands in pockets like a beta faggot, or holding them against something. Not exactly exciting or interesting, and it feels weird just throwing them about in the air for no reason, doesn't seem like a natural pose at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:16:47 2017 No.3180980 File: 5 KB, 100x100, 1psdg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] whats a good lamp/light to get for traditional/digital art? my room is pretty dark so ive been needing one. preferably under 50 bucks.

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:50:33 2017 No.3181009
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OP here. I would like to try something. Here's a list of the unanswered questions from previous thread (>>3161063):
>https://pastebin.com/evYUSiPg
It would be great if you could take a quick look at it. See if you know the answer to one of them. Even if we can only answer a few, it may mean a lot for the guys who asked.

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:59:54 2017 No.3181026

>>3181009
That's a good idea.

>>3180095
I'd say you're limiting your arm movement that way and it isn't recommened. It's ok, you don't actually have to draw from your arm and shoulder at all times, but at the very least try to do the basic exercises each day while lifting your arm.
Drawings on cups might help you to understand perspecive better actually. Don't feel bad about it, draw through.

>>3165553
Haven't but this thread has a lot of information that might help you https://boards.fireden.net/ic/thread/3077448

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:30:40 2017 No.3181067

>>3180980
I'd get myself a led desk lamp.
why? because it's white light, it doesn't produce a significant amount of heat and doesn't consume much electricity.

>>3162016
you say realistic painting but I am guessing you dislike the kind of realistic soft rendering that exists, just block in your stuff like Sargent or Zorn do. if you're talking about realistic drawing in general, that's kind of an oxymoron, as any good drawing is atleast based loosely on realism and informed on it, no way around learning to draw without learning realism (doesn't mean you have to be able to draw perfect russian academic charcoal drawings to be able to draw lolis, but it sure might help)

>>3164570
short answer: practice (but this is probably not going to help you)
long answer: rendering is a process, you first block in, then soften your edges where it is needed, there are some videos on edges in painting, look for em since I think 4chan is kinda gay and doesn't let you link shit.

>>3165393
not really, you have to do it manually, try going over it with the brush instead of the magic wand, maybe is less troublesome that way.

>>3166509
The horizon line is always on the middle, its a synonim of eye level.
there's, however, only one case where the eye level is not on the middle, and that's why you have to consider working from pictures, since said pictures can be crops of a big picture.
but if you're working from real life or you're trying to replicate a point of view drawing then you'd always place it on the middle.

>>3166884
The sterno-cleido-mastoid insertions and origins are where the name indicated, it originates from the mastoid process, which is below your ear, its the origin of the zygomatic arch, inserts into the pit of the neck (at the tip of the sternum, between the clavicle) and at the top of the clavicle. sterno = sternum, cleido = clavicle, mastoid = mastoid process.

I reccomend anatomy for sculptors.

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:55:46 2017 No.3181095
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>>3167323
I am guessing you started with photoshop and you don't like those background color mixing things.
don't worry about it, just go to the settings of any brush shape you like (the wrench icon in the tool properties submenu, I reccomend any of the watercolor ones), go to ink and disable "mix ground color"
if is not that then I have no idea what you don't like about them.

>>3170048

look at pic related, hairdressing is a good thing to look for when learning about hair.

>>3171013
drawabox.com

>>3171665
contrasts. less detail in less interesting areas, more in the most interesting areas, places where you want people to look at.

>>3172985
if your hand aches go see a doctor, you might have developed some carpal tunnel issue or tendoditis.
in general, it has to do with posture, how strong you hold your tools, rest and temperature changes. so keep a good posture, hold your tools softly, use gloves and don't let your hand get cold after a long session of drawing and most importantly, take rest periodically (remember, rest doesn't mean playing games, let your hand rest)

>>3173714
figure for all its worth, but I'd do hampton instead.

>>3173745
the gesture line is supposed to aid you to be able to construct the body in such a way, but yes, whatever simple method you can use and then develop into a more complex thing is useful for you works.

>>3174108
get the idea of digital working just like traditional, it won't happen.
just like how oils are different from working with inks and such, digital is just a tool that you have to learn to use.
aside of that, do some experimentation yourself and find something you feel kinda comfortable with.

>>3176967
experimentation, the markers are just a tool just like any pencil would be.
depends on what you wanna do with them too, some values I am guessing.

>>3178689
if you're talking about the drawabox warm ups then try the scott robertson method: draw one elipse, draw a line on the longest axis and fold it by the middle

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 23:04:19 2017 No.3181104

>>3179491
it's a weird thing with pens since you can't go for overhand, but just do a normal tripod and don't rest your arm on the paper, that's it, some people use their pinky for stabilization or the knuckle of the pinky (I do this myself)
it works for the stylus too so that's an advantage, you do rest it however, whenever you need to draw a little detail, you lift your entire hand (including said pinky) when drawing really big lines too

>>3180095
if you're drawing with overhand then work on an horizontal surface, you won't be able to rest your arm that way. if you're working with pen or stylus then try doing what I said above, take breaks if needed, exercise too.

cups are fine, if you're having trouble getting distracted by details then give a look to keys to drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 02:18:50 2017 No.3181254 >>3180179 Thick lines are also for parts closer to the camera/viewer right? So I guess you use either your method or the one with closer=thicker lines? Maybe you can combine both idk. I'm shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 02:21:58 2017 No.3181256 How do I draw clothes

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 03:18:23 2017 No.3181300 >>3181254 yeah, you could combine. you can also play with line thickness when forms are pressing against each other -- good for fleshy stuff.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 05:22:20 2017 No.3181359

>>3180867
>>3181009
>>3162016
>what if i love drawing but i hate realistic painting? what more artistic paths exist to compensate it if i really enjoy drawing something like ink and calligraphy perhaps?
Brush painting?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge8Rd7mQw34

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:20:46 2017 No.3181465 How to make my art not look so flat?

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:36:50 2017 No.3181754
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>>3163131
if your drawings look like 'dolls', i'm guessing you're drawing cute grills or bishies and you're subconsciously afraid to make them even temporarily ugly. don't be. what gives attractiveness staying power is the personality and charisma not the minute to minute shots.
try feeling out the emotion as you draw. make goofy faces in the mirror and draw them.

>>3162016
fashion illustration? some kind of technical thing? or just make it part of yr style and go into commercial illustration like for magazines and shit. if you don't like digital painting you're not going to make it far in vidya or tv

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 16:31:18 2017 No.3181822 >>3181465 Study form/volumes/perspective/light and line work >>3181300

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 16:35:47 2017 No.3181825 File: 449 KB, 719x878, values (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3181465

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 16:46:09 2017 No.3181838
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How could I achieve this style in digital painting?
I´m interested on this particular organic wet feel in color transition.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 17:27:13 2017 No.3181889

So my problem is that my monitor is shit with colors.
When I try to color I end up not being able to use subtle changes in color because it just doesn't appear on my monitor. This also causes me to often use strange values and color choices because it looks great on my monitor, but when i push it to my phone for example it looks like dogshit.

anyone ever had to deal with that? I would get another monitor but I don't have the space and I need my current one for other things it does well.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 21:55:45 2017 No.3182125
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What are some or where can I find a place with good rendering videos that show the whole process? Realistic is preferred, but I'll take anything high level.

I know about CTRL Alt Paint, I've downloaded their videos and I learned a lot from them, but I want to watch some videos that show the whole work from beggining to end, and youtube is 90% shitty speed paint videos or tumblr girls saying "hmm" a lot and skipping the most important parts.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 22:38:46 2017 No.3182167

>>3182125
Is that your work? If so i think you should use a harder brush. The softness makes your forms hard to read. Start with the hard brush, use large, simplified forms to represent your planes. Only let yourself use two or three values for this step. Now that you have major areas of shadow and light mapped out, you can go in and work these areas further. You should push your values more as well, id assume areas like under the nose are quite darker than what you have down. Sorry i dont have any painting references for you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 23:00:16 2017 No.3182174 This is probably a really stupid question but which Loomis book am I supposed to read first?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 23:04:13 2017 No.3182178 >>3182167 It is. I gave up halfway however, as you can see, it was turning out horribly. I'll remember those tips when I try a new study tomorrow. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 23:11:34 2017 No.3182183 How do I learn to draw mechs? Is there a book for it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 23:13:18 2017 No.3182185 >>3182183 There's resources in the artbook thread, just look for Mech

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 01:00:20 2017 No.3182256 >>3181095 >>3181104 very cool of you to answer these btw.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 06:16:47 2017 No.3182442 >>3182174 Fun with a Pencil

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 06:58:29 2017 No.3182462 >>3182125 https://youtu.be/DtB0QnEW-mo

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 07:05:23 2017 No.3182468 When is the next CSP sale? Can you guys notify me? I'm counting on you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 07:15:25 2017 No.3182474 >>3182462 That's exactly what I said I wasn't looking for, friend. I'll just going to ask on /beg/ I guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 11:46:45 2017 No.3182657 File: 151 KB, 777x384, c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do I find the vanishing points of the slopes in the roof?

Anonymous Mon Oct 23 17:17:38 2017 No.3183022

So I'm trying to get better at gesture drawings. The problem is, whenever I see a line (let's say the curve of a leg) I end of completely overshooting it or even make the wrong line. What do I do to make the lines I am seeing actually come out of my pen strokes?

Hope I worded that correctly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 17:22:25 2017 No.3183034 >>3183022 not entirely sure what you mean by this. could you post a picture?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 17:57:00 2017 No.3183100 >>3180867 So Surface > iPad Pro ? I was hoping to be convinced to buy Apple Pencil but the capabilities of the Surface 4 are more inviting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 20:22:50 2017 No.3183255 >>3183100 Well yeah, usually a more expensive product will be better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 20:57:35 2017 No.3183279 >>3182657 If I remember correctly roofs slopes have their own vanishing point above the horizon or they follow some type of pseudo third point perspective type thing

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 04:09:42 2017 No.3183684 >>3183100 More drawing apps on iPad pro and apple pencil is amazing

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 17:19:50 2017 No.3184220 what causes an artist to regress in skill?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 17:24:54 2017 No.3184227 >>3184220 A number of things. It could be long term IRL situations that effect your arting. It could be you not being consistent. A drop in practicing the basics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 17:44:04 2017 No.3184252 Would I learn more from copying a master's step by step process (when I can find it) or looking at only the final piece and arriving at a copy on my own?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 19:02:38 2017 No.3184360 File: 1.64 MB, 750x937, 13257105_274075846268882_1016841227_n - PNG MODE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any good tutorials on drawing hair?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 22:40:01 2017 No.3184518 Peter Han or Watts?

Anonymous Wed Oct 25 00:16:28 2017 No.3184605

Is there any point to learning every individual muscle? For example, Hampton teaches a bunch of the muscles attaching to the scapula, and then says that they're all covered by the deltoid anyways. What's the point of learning these if they don't show up on the surface anyways?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 00:24:57 2017 No.3184613 Do most people start from scratch in photoshop/etc or scan in the drawing?

Anonymous Wed Oct 25 01:02:16 2017 No.3184657

>>3181009
>Reading through Perspective Made Easy and I don't get one thing. I'll try to explain myself as best as I can
>I understand the horizon line is always eye level IRL right? But how does that translate to a picture? What I mean is how do I know where to place the horizon line in a drawing where the viewer can see the horizon? Is it always in the middle?

The horizon line is not going to always be in the middle.
Remember the horizon line is eye level and once you choose to place it all that really indicates is that if an object is above the horizon line you look up at it. and vice versa for below.
you can arbitrarily place the horizon line anywhere in the picture or even outside of it as long as you use perspective in relation to it.

Anonymous Wed Oct 25 01:07:44 2017 No.3184662

>>3184605
I wouldn't focus on learning every single muscle unless you are doing purely anatomical drawings.
That being said there are large muscle groups that you should focus on and learn most of.
there are over 600 muscles in the human body and id say if you want to be able to draw a human from any angle know the right 100 of them and you can do it convincingly. generally the important part is understanding how they interact with one another.
hampton should cover most of the important ones

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 02:21:05 2017 No.3184719 >>3180867 Does anyone have advice for finding manga studio brushes? I want to mess around with line quality, and I don't want to drop $15 for the frenden brush set knowing I'll only use 2 or 3 of the brushes in it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 06:52:35 2017 No.3184888 >>3184613 it depends on the person and the process. i've heard of some people who ink part of a comic by hand, then scan it in and do the more fiddly bits digitally.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 07:03:30 2017 No.3184897 >>3184719 The asset shop is filled with many free options, anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 07:16:05 2017 No.3184901 File: 304 KB, 869x1238, MR-355326-759216-3[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are copics used to render in made in abyss?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 07:25:34 2017 No.3184904 Now that you can't link someone your tumblr anymore because of the adult content block, where do you keep your porn portfolio??

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 07:42:16 2017 No.3184908 >>3184901 >top right panel You can see the texture of the brush repeating itself. It looks like it's digital grey tones on top of scanned ink.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 09:05:05 2017 No.3184935 Watched this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsfSrLMv7J0 What does quality critique look like?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 09:28:09 2017 No.3184945 >>3184908 Nice find. Thanks

Anonymous Wed Oct 25 11:20:29 2017 No.3185003
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Does anyone know if you keep the rights to your drawing after being published on ShirtPunch? i've used the other usual suspects like TheYetee and other limited time shirt sites but on this one i can't find an answer. Can i work with these guys and still sell my design on my RedBubble page and stuff like that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 13:15:57 2017 No.3185075 Can anyone who paints with Krita share a .kra project sample? Would be cool if the painting was complex because I want to look at the technical side of the program.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 14:18:18 2017 No.3185120 Why is such an elitist art board littered with anime and shit like that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 04:46:24 2017 No.3185817 >>3185804 >>3185804 help

Anonymous Thu Oct 26 05:17:49 2017 No.3185832

>>3185817
you're not giving us any useful input here dude.
what kind of tablet? what program are you using? what OS?

it has to do with your drivers because you're not getting any pressure, did you try with different softwares? does it work with your driver installation progr<m? it could also be a windows ink problem.

again, many factors, we need more info.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 05:33:36 2017 No.3185841 >>3185832 Huion h610 pro, clip studio paint, windows 8.1 It's the same shit whatever I'm painting on. when I first got it I installed the drivers it told me to so i don't know if its that

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 08:45:13 2017 No.3185943 why do nips always start their drawings from the eyes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 08:46:40 2017 No.3185946 >>3185943 Where do you start?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 09:15:37 2017 No.3185963 File: 311 KB, 540x406, helpm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is it better to apply for half the money you need of something, or to gamble on applying for the whole amount? it's for an art trip so i figured i'd ask here

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 14:15:44 2017 No.3186200 why do i like anime less the more i learn to draw?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 14:17:07 2017 No.3186201 >>3186200 You don't, you are just memeing yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 14:50:33 2017 No.3186235 >>3185832 thought for a minute you were going to help me

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 15:33:13 2017 No.3186301 >>3180890 Try to do better each time until you get better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 15:35:59 2017 No.3186305 >>3180919 Analyze what postilions others choose and why

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 16:10:52 2017 No.3186352 I have no problem doing studies but when it comes to making things I intend to 'finish' or full compositions I freeze. How do you push past this? Do you have any techniques for just getting something finished out?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 18:50:03 2017 No.3186527 What's a good non art career that I can live comfortably off of, and still have time to git gud and draw the things I want?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 19:04:40 2017 No.3186535 >>3185963 nvm, i applied for the full thing. wish me luck bois >>3180919 rewatch some movies you've already seen and see what the actors do with their hands

Anonymous Thu Oct 26 19:43:42 2017 No.3186561
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Pic related is rendering goals for comic book pages.

How can I achieve this quality /ic/? The clean ass, steady lines Japs always seem to have in their art has been a fucking mystery to me for the longest time. This linework in general is something I'm not sure how to recreate. Any brush setting recommendations, or types of strokes I should be using? I use CSP and normally use either Ink Brushes or their default markers but no brush I try really recreates the same type of lines I'm looking for here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 20:42:24 2017 No.3186615 File: 6 KB, 253x243, 1471658079603.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what does one do when admiration for one's friends and peers turns into crippling jealousy?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 20:57:49 2017 No.3186625 >>3186561 Literally just line weight and keeping consistent in the area (hair as opposed to face). It can be done in any program.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 22:26:56 2017 No.3186703 What should I study/reference from reality if I want to understand how mecha articulations work? Like if I wanna do some sorts of ED209 legs, I'm a beginner so how they work is still hard to understand for me. But any mecha tips/ressources welcomed.

Anonymous Thu Oct 26 22:30:50 2017 No.3186706

>>3185841
>the
>>3185841
>>3186235

calm down, it's a slow moving board and you should know this already.

1- reinstall your drivers, download them from the huion official page.
2-disable windows ink if it is not working, do a google search to see how to do it (windows 8 and 10 have problems with that shit)
3-if all of this fails try using a different pc, repeat the process and if it doesn't work then email huion since it would be on the hardware.

Anonymous Thu Oct 26 22:39:28 2017 No.3186712
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How should I study shit like pic related's work or how to use in studies? Got a bunch of cool looking anatomy artwork and books saved but they're all in moonrunes so I'm not sure how to use them to study.

also yes I like having my hand held and have other people think for me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 23:44:12 2017 No.3186745 File: 2.35 MB, 2529x3539, 20171026_223744.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3183034 an example of one of my figure/gesture drawing attempts. any crits would be appreciated sorry for the late reply. hope you are able to see this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 23:47:01 2017 No.3186746 File: 361 KB, 402x533, Screen Shot 2017-10-26 at 10.46.17 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3186745 ref. yeah i know i fucked up the file size in the previous image. sorry

Anonymous Thu Oct 26 23:51:58 2017 No.3186754
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>>3183034

one of my figure/gesture drawing examples. any crits would be appreciated.

certain landmarks on poses are hard for me to see the "flow" of if that makes sense and I just end up trying to copy what my eyes see

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 09:17:55 2017 No.3187068 File: 110 KB, 736x627, 1465355383055.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3186706 Thank you Anon

Anonymous Fri Oct 27 13:00:11 2017 No.3187227

>>3186712
nothing wrong with that, books are just a shortcut of methods to simplify realism into marks down on paper, copying from other artists is just as useful.

I like those works myself, they're technically separating muscle, fat and the big masses of the body for you to remember them more easily.

the neck is simplified as one green mass, the blue would be the trapezoid muscle.
red is the volume of the boobs, orange is the entire ribcage volume, it simplifies many muscles there, it also includes the shoulder but we will ignore that one since it is not colored on the ones at the bottom.
the yellow portion would be the upper half of the "handles" formed by the external oblique muscle, the green part then would be the fatty, lower half portion of it, the difference between man and woman is that this one portion is more fatty on the women and it is what gives us the femenine hourglass figure.
the lime green would be the volume of the pelvis, here we have the gluteus and the tensor fascia latae, as well as some of the adductors, the pectineus and iliopsoas are there atleast.

I think this is a good picture in the sense that it makes you think of said parts as single volumes, contained on their own, but I do not think they're good to study from as the volumes are too complex and you're missing way too much information.
I am sure the picture also wants to give you that the rectus abdomini has volume (the abs, even as seem from below like in the picture in the top right)

I think hampton does a good job in giving you all of this, but you should also study your anatomy too. Bridgman has similar stuff except is not colored and you kind of have to decipher yourself.

give anatomy for sculptors a look if you don't know where to start with anatomy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 13:33:52 2017 No.3187248 File: 194 KB, 982x886, Screen Shot 2017-10-27 at 12.37.38 PM.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] are these perspective lines correct? is this how it's supposed to be before drawing a body in perspective?

Anonymous Fri Oct 27 18:19:14 2017 No.3187406

>>3186754
i'd say you should start by observing the negative space outside the figures. for example the left figure's legs. wouldn't you have said the gap between them was a little wider than you've drawn it? and her stretched out leg, the calf's not a smooth curve like you drew it, it's almost a really stretched out l-shape..because that's the shape of the muscle underneath.
people are heavy. where is her weight supported? it's the leg the same side as the raised arm yes? so that's sort of bent back a little since it is load-bearing. we can see the shape of her knee area strongly outlined against the black.
your lines aren't particularly confident. not quite chicken scratch, but it's a gesture drawing so be bold!

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 23:14:15 2017 No.3187635 What happened to the "yor syle/my style" threads? i can't find it on the catalog, or the archives Or is it there and i'm just retarded? Cheers

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 23:26:15 2017 No.3187641 >>3184360 Anyone?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 27 23:30:01 2017 No.3187642 will i improve if i study solely digitally? i really get bored of drawing traditionally.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 00:03:50 2017 No.3187656 >>3187248 No, not really... Some of those forms are tilted and have different perspective points. You're kinda on the right track though.

Anonymous Sat Oct 28 00:04:21 2017 No.3187659
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>>3187641
>>3184360

Proko has a nice video up, although the medium used is charcoal so you that may not be your thing. Still, he does a nice job at breaking down the step by step process and how to approach drawing hair. Have the picture version.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 00:07:01 2017 No.3187662 >>3187659 Process is the same even if the media is different. That shit looks solid to me. If that doesn't click with you look up james gurney ribbon method on google. Basically the same thing as proko though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 00:07:34 2017 No.3187664 >>3187406 thanks for the feedback. I will pay attention to those things next time. also, can you tell me what to really pay attention to in general in order to have a, i guess, "successful" gesture or figure drawing?

Anonymous Sat Oct 28 01:46:58 2017 No.3187732
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All of a sudden when I try to draw in paint tool sai the beginning of the line is really flat no matter how much I try to curve it.
Does anyone know how to fix this problem?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 10:26:26 2017 No.3188068 >>3187732 JUST RUB IT OUT AND FIX IT

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 21:55:50 2017 No.3188568 When you do a digital paint study with a reference, do you have the picture on one side and photoshop on the other or do you open the image in photoshop and paint over?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 21:59:39 2017 No.3188572 >>3188568 To the side Who the fuck traces a study?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 28 22:12:47 2017 No.3188589 >>3187732 Reinstall driver or restart computer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 00:10:43 2017 No.3188689 File: 128 KB, 730x1095, kayla_gun_pose_reference_stock_v_by_phelandavion-d9t234q.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any tips for adding technical details for sci-fi objects/panels/etc?

Anonymous Sun Oct 29 00:17:55 2017 No.3188693

>>3188689
find some photo ref, make it grey scale and clip some custom brushes is one way. Look at some ref and simplify into basic shapes then just like blacing in panes when you do values, you can block in some shapes and detail/break them down into smaller shapes. Put some little "lights" on a layer above then hit it with a light soft brush and some color dodge and you got a little bit of glowy buttons.
Be careful of the greeble, though. You don't want so much detail that it distracts from your focus point.

You can also image search for model kit decal sheets and cut/paste as you need. I like doing that for vehicles/mechs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 10:26:29 2017 No.3189039 File: 800 KB, 736x534, bls resbond.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reposting from tablet thread cause it's dead over there Does a screen tablet match the feeling of pencil and paper in terms of direct control?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 12:14:45 2017 No.3189113 >>3189039 no, but it's still indispensable if you're serious about digital art

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 12:17:28 2017 No.3189116 is there a "Reveal all" in Krita?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 13:07:15 2017 No.3189157 >>3189113 Damn. Would you be able to describe the differences? Also if I want to get a screen tablet how high should I aim, I mean can away with buying a cheap one do you need a Cintiq 22HD or some shit?

Anonymous Sun Oct 29 13:27:10 2017 No.3189174

>>3189157
>Would you be able to describe the differences?
I can try, I don't have such a huge experience. it's very smooth, the pen just slides on the surface. the biggest issue will be the size if you get a small one, it just feels weird and cramped. you can't really use gestures or your entire arm, it's more about the wrist. maybe it's different on very big models, haven't had much experience with them.
>screen tablet
this on the other hand is not worth it, at least to start out. they're very expensive. I don't know if there are any cheap ones.
that said you can check out Huion (http://www.huiontablet.com), they're much cheaper than Wacom and are apparently pretty good. I was looking up reviews everywhere at some point and I couldn't find any "it died in 3 months" or whatever.

Anonymous Sun Oct 29 13:27:39 2017 No.3189176

>>3189157
Don't listen to that faggot anon, many pros use regular tablets, no screen needed. Have you seen the concept art for the Marvel Studios films? Ryan Meinerding, one of the lead artists of their concept art team, just uses an old intuos and nothing particularly fancy. In fact you might even be some benefits to not going for the screen tablet, I find them to have the little backdraw of having your hand obscuring part of the drawing, having to use a screen glove, etcetera. Tablets are tools, they don't make the artist, if you're serious about digital art you're better off spending money on learning rather than on an expensive tablet.

Anonymous Sun Oct 29 13:34:03 2017 No.3189184

>>3188693
Thanks man! Yeah greeble seems only good for gigantic structures/cities where the little bits and pieces can be "justified" and contrasted with larger shapes.

The model sheet tip is genius, thanks for that.

I have a one more specific question:
How can I logically (or seemingly logically) place cut-lines along the surface of an object? Like for a car, there's usually cut lines for the doors, the trunk, and the hood. But then you look at any spaceship concepts and they tend to have cut lines everywhere. Planes tend to have a lot of Panel Lines too. I guess a better question would be, is there a way to utilize cut/panel lines in a way that both shows the form of the object while being functional? I guess this is probably where ref seems to come into play, but I thought I'd ask.

Anonymous Sun Oct 29 13:44:46 2017 No.3189191

>>3189184
ref of something similar as a guide, but consider the function. How would the object be manufactured? There would be seams there. Access panels and such too. I'm still a neophyte, but the things I'd consider would be along those lines as well as thinking of 'edge flow' like if you where a 3d modeler. You can use the seams to guide the viewer's attention as well. Aesthetic shapes within the larger shapes.

Anonymous Sun Oct 29 13:44:46 2017 No.3189192

>>3189174
>>3189176
I already have a screenless tablet, the reason I ask about screen tablets is because I'm a huge lineart fag and every time I use the tablet everything I make looks like shit to me because there isn't direct control the same way there is when drawing on paper. I get you're supposed to get used to it but the difference really irritates me, and I've been using it a while but that feeling simply doesn't go away.
Also, thanks for the Huion suggestion, I plan on getting gud but not going pro at least for now, so yea I'd rather not spend a fortune for a tablet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 15:45:47 2017 No.3189307 How do you display pages side to side in Clip studio paint?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 15:50:42 2017 No.3189310 >>3189307 Just drag the tab with the image with you want to the side of your main one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 16:22:17 2017 No.3189339 I wanna start drawing but I have a problem. Whenever I try to get a new hobby or skill I really need someone to hold my hand through it AT THE BEGINNING. Afterwards I'm fine with everything. Is there no hope for me to learn drawing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 16:56:35 2017 No.3189372 >>3189339 drawing classes irl anon. ask at your local art shop see if they know about any.

Anonymous Sun Oct 29 18:04:36 2017 No.3189412

Anyone know a male equivalent to senshistock? Her photos are good reference, but very limited on males pictures. I keep searching for a gallery with males models (in underwear or nude, I don't care). I tried using google pictures, but all photos from males I get are in suits or with clothes that don't allow to see muscles, etc.

Please respond, thanks in advance.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 18:15:21 2017 No.3189423 >>3189412 Proko has three male packs https://daestock.deviantart.com/ Just look under stock in dA there are a lot of galleries

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 18:32:33 2017 No.3189434 >>3189423 Thank you very much!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 18:35:58 2017 No.3189437 >>3189339 u got an email? ill guide you through every step

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 18:52:23 2017 No.3189457 >>3189437 Don't know if troll but ntailment@outlook.com

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 23:44:00 2017 No.3189681 File: 146 KB, 453x471, ss.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looking for more sites or 3D programs that allow me to see the human form with muscles in poses. Recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 29 23:53:31 2017 No.3189691 >>3189681 https://play google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.md3dinc.lecorche There's this, haven't used it. You could probably run it on an android emulator. Haven't looked hard enough for a "demo" version.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 06:44:55 2017 No.3189921 Looking for a website I forgot the name of. It colored pictures automatically similar to pix2pix, might of been a Japanese website too what's it called?

Anonymous Mon Oct 30 09:31:13 2017 No.3189999

>>3181009
>Where can I find krenz tutorials do I have to pay are they any good does he even paint in any of them
https://gumroad.com/krenzcushart
Lecture video part 3 $10 worth way more than that they let you download a 720p mp4 file so I could share it
I also got the livestream commission video he talks about how he makes the picture it's not worth getting compared to the lecture video

Anonymous Mon Oct 30 10:45:20 2017 No.3190043

>>3189434
Here are some more for you

https://justmeina.deviantart.com/
https://null-entity.deviantart.com/
https://ahrum-stock.deviantart.com/

Not much of art stock but collections of attractive males mostly shirtless
http://simplyhotguys.tumblr.com/archive
http://lovingmalemodels.tumblr.com/
http://wetbuns.tumblr.com/archive (warning: some butts/dicks)

You can use https://www.quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed and select only male models to show

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 12:12:33 2017 No.3190113 Is an ipad pro and an apple pen enough to get started with digital?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 12:46:01 2017 No.3190141 What’re some things that could help me get better at drawing below the shoulders? Would it be looking at full body poses and things like that?

Anonymous Mon Oct 30 13:51:14 2017 No.3190187

MY TABLET IS DRIVING ME INSANE
I don't know what it is but right clicking is impossible, and therefore I can't color pick in SAI easily.

I tried switching the buttons around, I tried the pen, I tried updating my drivers, I tried reinstalling the damn drivers, and nothing fucking works. The color picker shows that my mouse or whatever is stuck and only works 1/4th of the time

please please help

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 14:54:05 2017 No.3190250 Is the dynamic sketching course on cgpeers good enough for beginners? If not what are the alternatives?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 18:20:31 2017 No.3190487 Okay guys, there was a pixel thread not too long ago where are guy posted tutorials from a brazilian pixel artist who made gif animated pixel art tutorials, he also had a website and I forgot to bookmark it. Anyone knows who I'm talking about? Halp?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 18:43:10 2017 No.3190507 >>3190250 Yes, it's great for beginners and starts with the very basics of line control. The early lessons are practically what you can find in drawabox.com >>3190487 http://blog.studiominiboss.com/pixelart

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 30 20:17:28 2017 No.3190614 File: 75 KB, 1000x337, pro_bio07.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] does anyone know what brush this was done in? i think it's one of kyle webster's brushes, but i can't figure out which one.

Anonymous Tue Oct 31 02:01:58 2017 No.3190928

How to transition from doing art as a student to doing art as a professional? Workflows, pipelines, deadlines, etc. Concept artist here looking to join a film vfx studio (I'll probably be starting out smaller and more indie, though.).

Anything I should know about that isn't really talked about? I know a bit of what I should be expecting/expected to do, but anything that y'all know would help!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 04:48:29 2017 No.3191020 File: 14 KB, 180x53, 42142.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is it possible to extend Krita's size bar?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 07:42:09 2017 No.3191108 File: 102 KB, 1000x761, proko gestures.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the go to resource for learning digital rendering/coloring/whatever the proper term is? Pic related is my first attempt and I don't really get it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 07:45:28 2017 No.3191111 >>3191108 /ic/ sticky

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 09:44:08 2017 No.3191163 Can't learn from books. Best video course on anatomy? I have cgpeers account.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 10:45:41 2017 No.3191192 >>3191020 Don't know but if you just want a easier way to size your brush, you can hold down shift and drag the stylus to the right or left to change size.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 31 20:38:11 2017 No.3191619 how do i make the transition from digital painting photo studies,to doing my own paintings? it feels like there's this big chasm i wouldn't even know how to cross when i step away from the ref.

Anonymous Tue Oct 31 22:37:17 2017 No.3191708
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Trying to learn how to construct the torso
Currently I'm looking at model pictures trying to find the angles of the pelvis and rib cage, but I'm having a little trouble with it, especially if the model is twisting its torso. Any pointers or tips?

puts Tue Oct 31 23:09:29 2017 No.3191734
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>>3191108
>https://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm
Brush up on your drawing skills first, then practice simplifying objects into planar forms.
Similar planes have similar values.

This is all way ahead of your skill level, however. Work on your drawing and visualization skills. You are still symbol drawing and your drawings look flat. I suggest drawing from life and the Charles Bargue Drawing Course.

After that, focus on values first. Don't jump straight into full color.

>>3191111
the current sticky has very limited info on rendering

>>3191163
proko

>>3191708
look at the angle of the shoulders and hips. Try to get the center line down as well. Use the navel and other visual hints as well. You might not be able to see everything, so you'll have to make your best guess.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 03:09:10 2017 No.3191852 I'm having trouble creating an account on CGpeers. I keep recieving the error "Couldn't proceed with registration (Error: 0xE400000A)" Been trying to create an account for 3 hours now. Is the server down or something?

Anonymous Wed Nov 1 04:00:34 2017 No.3191874

>>3190113
Yes
Also consider used Surface pros 2 or 3 or 4 if you get a good deal. The first 2 ones are bigger than the Apple I believe and they're not perfect but pretty cool, I had both. Tiny tiny lag but you don't even notice it. The rest is great, you can look for reviews.

Anonymous Wed Nov 1 06:30:22 2017 No.3191937
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Trying to install G'MIC plugin for Krita. Krita's doc tells me to: Go to Settings → Configure Krita → G'Mic Plugin and set G'MIC to the filepath there.
...I might be stupid, but I really can't find the G'Mic plugin in the [Configure Krita] window.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 07:14:32 2017 No.3191954 >>3191937 https://docs.krita.org/GMIC_filter_plugin >1) First download the proper krita plugin from [1] The "[1]" is a link.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 07:15:35 2017 No.3191957 >>3191937 >>3191954 And what version are you on? says it's for 3.2+.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 07:40:40 2017 No.3191972 >>3191937 I just got Krita and it's included for me.

Anonymous Wed Nov 1 10:59:44 2017 No.3192078

I have a problem with the size of sheets.
If I have to draw something in digital I have no problems with a worksheet on 800-1500 pixels and using a 3px brush but just change with larger dimensions and larger brush I have many problems with lines and slower/difficult in drawing.
The same thing happens to me in the paper drawing i haven't problem on A4 size sheets, but I'm having trouble with the A3.
what can I do? how can I improve?
Any suggestions?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 13:21:00 2017 No.3192199 >>3191957 >>3191972 When I first started the G'mic filter, it tried to look for a path to the plugin. After spending some time on /ic/ however it magically fixed itself. Weird. I'll check around to see if its all fixed, or only the black & white parts.

Anonymous Wed Nov 1 13:32:28 2017 No.3192206

My depression is causing me to overthink everything I draw. Drawing even cartoon faces feels like a huge chore, and I’ve read so much advice on how to draw forms and construction that trying to follow all of it while drawing makes me frustrated.

What can I do to change my mindset while I draw?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 14:01:08 2017 No.3192224 I have a kind of stupid question. I'm not active online since a couple years and I'm thinking of coming back, should I use an old profile and update it with the scarce stuff I did in the break, or its better to make a brand new one?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 14:04:42 2017 No.3192230 >>3192224 Did you have followers? Then yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 14:14:22 2017 No.3192240 >>3192230 Around a dozen. Guess its not really something to take in consideration much

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 14:42:16 2017 No.3192259 Is there a general rule of thumb I should be following when it comes to line weight? I'm not sure where to use heavier or thinner lines.

Anonymous Wed Nov 1 15:07:40 2017 No.3192276
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I'm not sure if this is an anatomy issue or a gesture issue or whatever. If I can think of poses for my characters but once I try to draw the character in that pose, I fail because I don't know how the body looks like in that particular pose, what do I study to improve?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 15:31:03 2017 No.3192290 >>3192276 Gesture comes first. Do a bunch of 'em. If then you're having trouble placing bones and muscles you need anatomy and construction. But for general poses start with gesture practice.

Anonymous Wed Nov 1 15:44:32 2017 No.3192299
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hello anon, questions here.

Does this look 3d mensional?
I'm trying to experiment, I want to see how much render the shadow part needs.
I intentionally limited the reflected light.

If not. how much detail a show part hast with the reflect light? how much can I simplify it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 16:09:57 2017 No.3192310 Ok big question: How the fuck do I concentrate at will

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 20:22:37 2017 No.3192569 >>3192310 Motivate yourself with some vid or drawings from artists you like. Cut distractions. Uninstall games. Shut down the net with apps like Cold turkey.

Anonymous Wed Nov 1 20:32:39 2017 No.3192580

>>3192310
I highly recommend to sign up to a website like quickposes and warm up with quick gestures or hand drawings. The website itself tracks the time you're using its timed practice and gives you achievements based on it. Once you start doing shit it's easier to continue, you procrastinate because you're afraid to start.

Cutting down all distractions is also wise. No phone, games, internet when you're drawing. Start with something simple like 30 minutes a day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 21:40:08 2017 No.3192620 >>3192259 heavier for parts closer to the viewer (indicating atmospheric perspective) and/or facing away from the light.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 23:15:42 2017 No.3192693 Are there any ink and copic friendly (doesn't bleed through and, ideally, warp) sketchbooks out there?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 1 23:33:18 2017 No.3192703 If i want to design a robot on two legs that can walk and leap, what type of legs should I study (I tried grasshoppers but they have more legs). Is this possible?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 07:55:49 2017 No.3193032 What's a good site/resource for dynamic pose references?

Anonymous Thu Nov 2 11:57:53 2017 No.3193205
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How can I memorise this? It's the simplified anatomy of the arm. I've copied it down a lot, I've drawn arms from the internet simplifying them as the image shows but I swear it's just not helping. It still just seems like a bunch of random blobs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 12:10:13 2017 No.3193211 >>3193205 Kek just look at your own damn arms

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 13:13:32 2017 No.3193267 >>3193211 how

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 13:20:21 2017 No.3193272 >>3193205 Perhaps a muscle anatomy guide would help better. http://www.exrx.net/Muscles/WristFlexors.html >>3193267 you need to feel your muscles... this can be done by contracting them...

Anonymous Thu Nov 2 14:05:15 2017 No.3193304
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>>3193032
Anyone?

>>3193205
Have you tried looking at muscular people and drawing them or just studies from pics like that? Honestly that's what I did and it wasn't difficult at all, but perhaps my mindset was different. I find your pic to be more confusing than anything, because it depicts muscles as blobs.
I don't really know how to explain this any better but muscles are sorta like "sheets" that envelop the bones, and are connected with each other. When they become larger they start "bulging" and this is why beginners draw them as blobs, without really understanding their shapes.

>>3193211
One cannot really get a good grasp of all the muscles by doing that, unless you are extremely defined and muscular

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 17:13:08 2017 No.3193496 >>3191874 Thanks a lot! I'll look them up

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 17:47:58 2017 No.3193538 >>3192703 Kangaroos?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 20:11:44 2017 No.3193670 >>3193538 Yep that was also my conclusion after researching. Thanks.

Anonymous Thu Nov 2 20:43:11 2017 No.3193699
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Can someone explain Steve Huston's method of head drawing in terms of a 3/4th view? I can't seem to understand how you proportion the front and sides of the head properly after putting down the sailboat shape.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 21:11:54 2017 No.3193727 >>3193699 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg Did you miss this part? It's all about the mask of the face.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 2 23:48:09 2017 No.3193832 Can I use gumroad to release (paid) chapters of my webcomic? Or is there a better site for this kind of thing? I want to make minimum wage with my comic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 05:42:05 2017 No.3193965 >>3193832 you can always try but you're not gonna make money with one website out of the blue build a following, yadda yadda yadda

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 07:05:48 2017 No.3193993 Can the brushes on Procreate be found for Photoshop as well?

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 13:48:00 2017 No.3194247
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>make image
>change background to different colours looking for transparency artifacts
>take out all that I can see
>upload it to imgur
>looks fine
>open the same imgur on my phone
>looks like a compressed shitty jpeg made by an autistic child
wtf is this

also why on phone does it have a white background rather than transparent? I'm so gutted about this. I went to bed angry last night.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 13:56:40 2017 No.3194258 File: 172 KB, 785x648, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3194247 also if I make a selection from layer it selects it all perfectly, it doesn't get caught around and shite residue at all

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 14:27:02 2017 No.3194284 >>3180867 Where to download photoshop?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 20:31:46 2017 No.3194564 How did you learn the muscles of the arm? I've checked Hampton (videos and book) and Loomis and they're both pretty shitty.

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 21:39:49 2017 No.3194638

so ive been hearing if you do draw 250-500 boxes, cylinders and work on line work. you can improve drastically fast.
is this true? I just started drawing a month, ive basically the worst , through out middle school, hs and college ive wrote minimally and drawn only a handful of times. ive been doing the basics everyday and ive improved a ton, within this month. but im wondering if there is merit to grinding boxes and cylinders ? or is that a meme? for the next two months basically ill be able to grind art 2-8 hours a day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 22:06:39 2017 No.3194673 >>3193205 Look at bridgeman's arms He simplifies them to rectangles. If you can't figure it out then, you're a fool.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 22:09:34 2017 No.3194680 >>3194673 >recommending bridgeman to a beginner /ic/, everyone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 23:08:26 2017 No.3194747 File: 294 KB, 1600x1322, bridgeman_arm_practice_by_vimes_da-d37c3x9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3194680 It's actually pretty fucking simple. Just look at how the shadow shapes are organized.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 3 23:10:20 2017 No.3194752 >>3194747 These are studies btw

Anonymous Fri Nov 3 23:14:08 2017 No.3194761

How fast do I have to work as a concept artist? I can use a pencil pretty darn quickly, but painting sucks for me.
Right now I'm in a storyboarding class where we're usually given about 4 hours to complete an assignment before critiquing it. Do you think this might be roughly the same timeframe?
How can I speed up my painting process? How can I search for reference quickly?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 00:26:00 2017 No.3194827 File: 66 KB, 847x850, pp011177crp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tell me about chromatic aberration. Why do some artists love to use it so much? When should you or shouldn't you use it? Any examples of it being used well?

Anonymous Sat Nov 4 00:35:54 2017 No.3194835

>>3194284
just go to adobe and download the trial version. install it.

then search for adobe universal installer.
unzip the file were photshop is installed.
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop CC 2018

then run the patch. select your version of photoshop. if it's not available choose try to patch an other product. then patch .

voila your photoshop is working.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 00:38:31 2017 No.3194839 >>3194835 search for adobe universal patch sorry

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 00:48:44 2017 No.3194842 >>3192206 well if it's really depression then antidepression drugs help... go see a psychiatrist

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 00:49:26 2017 No.3194844 >>3194827 It's just good at hiding mistakes and gives fake feeling of depth. Use it whenever if you want to be a hack, but in my opinion it's absolutely appropriate to use it in a futuristic drawing or something similar where it fits stylistically.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 00:50:15 2017 No.3194845 File: 534 KB, 664x1188, 15097617636822.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I make this belly more 3D and generally better in photoshop?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 00:51:17 2017 No.3194846 >>3193496 if you'll end up going for the surface pro 4. don't by the windows pen but the wacom pen...the activation force is much better and you'll get 2 buttons that you can customize with radial menu

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 00:56:37 2017 No.3194852 >>3192206 mindfulness CBT exercise figuring out why you even care about drawing in the first place (if its purely for money/fame, just quit now. If you do it for fun then try to find fun in it)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 01:08:17 2017 No.3194858 File: 121 KB, 303x328, 1486608760703.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3194845

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 01:16:48 2017 No.3194865 >>3194845 rim lighting harder shadows on underbelly

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 01:28:52 2017 No.3194875 >>3194845 needs to be getting more white light from the overcast sky above the underside should be darker basically: push the values

Anonymous Sat Nov 4 01:32:15 2017 No.3194880
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>>3194845
a few simple tricks.
First grab an real image of a big belly.
Then blend the edges after cutting out with the lasso tool.
Then adjust the color to match the skin tone better.
By grabbing an existing image of a woman with a big belly, you get all the folds and creases a fat belly requires to look real. Also the shadows and lighting play a big role.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 02:36:08 2017 No.3194948 File: 495 KB, 664x1173, fatty1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3194845

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 02:39:49 2017 No.3194949 >>3194948 I think I hate you for helping him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 02:42:54 2017 No.3194954 >>3194948 Thats fucking really good, can I just steal that and use it as a layer to copy from?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 03:20:54 2017 No.3195001 >>3194954 yes do with it what you want. I'm sure not going to use it for anything haha. >>3194949 I just thought it was funny to do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 03:24:07 2017 No.3195003 File: 1.28 MB, 1496x1146, comparison.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3194954 I only modified it slightly, you are amazing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 04:16:08 2017 No.3195032 >>3194564 Dragon Ball honestly

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 04:57:15 2017 No.3195038 I have no idea what works I should be making. Animations for a reel? Paintings for a portfolio? seems like all I seem to know is doing sketches in my sketchbook.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 05:23:59 2017 No.3195045 anyone knows how i can keep on using the trial of Paint Tool Sai?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 07:22:54 2017 No.3195075 >>3195038 what do you feel like doing? pick one, stick to it, finish it. rinse and repeat >>3195045 torrent it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 17:06:18 2017 No.3195545 File: 3.91 MB, 1878x1867, fail.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What happened here? tried to spiral some transparency into an image and it came out black.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 4 19:28:05 2017 No.3195669 File: 8 KB, 247x204, Birb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I tapper and adjust the ends of my vectored lines in CSP?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 5 01:43:02 2017 No.3195989 please, can someone post that kim jung gi meme ? the one he holds the fzd schoold of design asian by the throat while he draws?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 5 03:37:39 2017 No.3196087 is there a discord channel for IC??? also what is the fastest way to get feedback?? i reaaallly whant some feedback on a lot of drawings

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 5 07:04:39 2017 No.3196194 >>3196087 the FASTEST way to get feedback is to post your work

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 5 08:18:24 2017 No.3196227 File: 470 KB, 924x889, 1509641548892.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3195989 Here ya go

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 5 09:56:05 2017 No.3196289 how did it feel to upgrade to a screen tablet for the first time? did it change everything or was it just the same?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 5 20:27:25 2017 No.3196831 File: 203 KB, 2500x2500, 1397865833020.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How can I tell if the person critiquing me knows what he's talking about?

Anonymous Sun Nov 5 20:31:16 2017 No.3196836

>>3196831
there is no guarantee, but outside input gets you to look at your work from fresh eyes. Crits aren't a 'how to' connect the dots to success. It's an opinion you can take or leave. It depends on your level of trust of the person critiquing. And anon on 4chan or a trusted friend who is a working pro.
I look at crits from here as just a fresh perspective and a good way to keep myself grounded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 5 20:37:46 2017 No.3196844 how do you keep from stagnating? just constantly seek out crit?

Anonymous Sun Nov 5 20:44:44 2017 No.3196848

>>3196844
Kind of depends on your level of skill and years of experience. If you are just 'grinding out fundies' do some personal work & if you can't think of something, try to copy or do your own version of a piece you like form you favorite artist. I like to peruse artstation and find work that kicks me in the nads and makes me want to figure out a particular look or rendering tech that the artist used.
Crit is helpful, but if it is not forthcoming you have to find a way to get yourself moving. They say variety is the spice of life. I think that could be applied a bit to this learning process.

Anonymous Sun Nov 5 20:52:33 2017 No.3196854

I've always used traditional canvas and paint for my art, but I want to begin submitting art via submittable and such.

I saw one journal welcoming artists and they have image parameters, but clearly say fine art is welcome and to describe the medium.

Do I just take a very good picture of the piece and send it to them?

Sorry, very new to online submissions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 5 22:06:56 2017 No.3196940 why does /ic/ hate photobashing

Anonymous Sun Nov 5 23:43:31 2017 No.3197020

>>3196940
Ic is not one person. some like anime other only want classical mastery and other just want to get good enough to work in the industry.

But the majority i guess want to learn how to paint the classical way so i presume they feel like photos are a crutch that wont get them were they want.

But if what you want is just to make picture that will be good enough for the industry, then photobashing is a tool that is useful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 6 00:50:37 2017 No.3197064 File: 486 KB, 1366x768, Screenshot (73).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] critics? beg here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 6 00:51:21 2017 No.3197065 >>3197064 How are you so good? Blog?

Anonymous Mon Nov 6 02:45:16 2017 No.3197153
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>>3180867
SO, I'm having some problems with Manga Studio 5.
I can only get pen pressure if I'm holding down the barrel button on my pen. Otherwise, there's no pressure, a significant delay between when the pen meets the surface and when the line starts.

>Anyone know what this might be?

I've reset all button shortcuts, messed with all the tabletPC/wintab settings, etc.
I've used photoshop, drawpile, and sai and have confirmed this is only a manga studio thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 6 16:29:47 2017 No.3197590 What's the best place for comic exposure? Tumblr, deviantart, tapas, line webtoon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 00:14:16 2017 No.3198000 I'm shit but I feel like I'm better on paper than tablet. Is this a known syndrome? Why is it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 00:23:09 2017 No.3198006 >>3198000 What tablet are you using

Anonymous Tue Nov 7 01:20:23 2017 No.3198036

>>3197590
Webtoons and tapas are the best. Webtoons will get you more views and subscribers, and Tapas has a better comment section (webtoons doesn't notify you when you get comments, so you would have to manually check every page to see if there are new comments.)

I'm not sure about deviantart, but most of the comic artists I know post on tumblr tapas and webtoons, since all of those reach different markets and will boost your viewership.

Anonymous Tue Nov 7 05:27:03 2017 No.3198118

I remember seeing this website for one guy posting all his personal photos, a majority of which I believe were from conventions, free for reference including commercial use but I can't for the life of me find it again. Anyone got a link? Sorry if the description is too vague

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 06:42:52 2017 No.3198137 File: 164 KB, 750x1000, badbadnotgood.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what are some fun exercises for character design?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 14:54:19 2017 No.3198445 >>3198036 Thank you very much for replying. So I can post the same comic in both tapas and webtoons? Good to know, I thought they were rival sites or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 17:44:42 2017 No.3198556 what are some good stretches to do for the wrist? i recently added another couple hours to my drawing session and now im starting to feel a bit of pain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 17:51:06 2017 No.3198566 >>3196854 Pls respond

Anonymous Tue Nov 7 20:21:23 2017 No.3198723

I have an old tablet, Bamboo fun (CTH-661) and a couple weeks ago the buttons started acting up on my pen. Went into photoshop and tried to right click to adjust brush size, I could see it show the UI for a split second, then disappear. Tried left clicking and zooming, same thing. Rebooted the pc, nothing. Then I un/reinstalled the tablet keeping the drivers, nothing. Then I un/reinstalled everything (tried MANY different drivers both old and new,) now the buttons do nothing and lock my cursor when click and dragging. I checked on my old laptop running windows 7, the buttons work as expected. I can't seem to find a fix for it, it was just so out of the blue and it's been working fine for years. Currently running windows 10 x64

Anonymous Tue Nov 7 20:40:41 2017 No.3198747
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>>3198556
someone posted a version of this somewhere here. I don't know if this is original, but these when I take a break combined with push/pull ups in my exercise routine help out a lot. Just having some tone on your back and shoulders naturally helps your posture and the other exercises strengthen your wrists. Doesn't have to be a /fit/ intense routine and hour every other day with stretching and walk/jog on off days works enough for me. I'm not trying to get laid, I'm trying to get good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 20:42:19 2017 No.3198749 >>3198556 I have this bookmarked. Make sure you do too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUyMNyrOHJQ

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 21:15:21 2017 No.3198783 >>3198747 >>3198749 arigato anon-kun! i'll try these out for a while. i try to exercise regularly, but ive been negligent on that front lately.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 7 21:20:37 2017 No.3198787 >>3198783 I feel you buddy, then the weather gets cold I slip a day here and there. Have to really whip myself to keep the routine.

Anonymous Wed Nov 8 00:08:40 2017 No.3198932

So I finally accepted that I had to draw a few perspective lines and "boxes" characters in order to make something ok.
Thing is, I'm making comics and doing these perspective help evertime is kinda boring.
Do people that start with this usually evolve to be able to draw freely, without having to draw every single box to understand the perspective instead of guessin?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 08:02:07 2017 No.3199119 >>3180867 some of the discord links in the google doc are expired need to get permanent ones everything else is great though thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 16:56:04 2017 No.3199517 I want to start learning digital paiting, I have sai but It seems inadequate for the task, Is photoshop better for it? If so, what would be the best version to do it?

Anonymous Wed Nov 8 18:18:16 2017 No.3199584

>>3199517
Determining which program is better than the other is almost purely subjective and varies between users. I'd recommend trying both and highlighting, making notes of the exclusive features they have, ease of use, and suitable customization you'd like to have at your disposal.
Personally, I use a mix of CS6, Sai, and recently, Manga Studio. Each one has perks over the other and luckily can help me substitute tools in a program that one lacks or I just haven't discovered yet. Like gradient mapping in Photoshop, cleaner lines in Manga Studio, or a less than complex interface in Sai.

TL;DR, try to use both to offset their individual weaknesses you're aware of and keep the file format .psd to transfer between them seamlessly.

Anonymous Wed Nov 8 18:21:32 2017 No.3199589

I've recently started using Vilppu's manual and I'm wondering if I should be using model references from some external source. I instinctively started trying to imagine poses as opposed to using references to flex my imagination.

And if so, is there a favored site for gesture models to use? 1,000,000 pardons if this is something in the sticky.

Anonymous Wed Nov 8 18:27:30 2017 No.3199598

>>3198932
Eventually you'll start to visualize framing people/objects in boxes or 3D in general in proper perspective, but for now it's best to keep drawing them out in shapes as suggested. You'll notice you'll eventually be able to skip constructing drawing things composed of 1 or 2 basic shapes and start drawing it in proper perspective without building too much, but at the same time you'll see you'll come crawling back to building with 3D shapes once you've found yourself drawing a complex figure or object and repeat the process until you don't need to rely on the method out of familiarity. Kim Jung Gi is a notable artist that visualizes his work in 3D boxes and pays a disproportionate amount of attention to perspective.

Anonymous Wed Nov 8 18:32:33 2017 No.3199602

>>3198137
I don't know of any exercises, but I've been told drawing silhouettes in one value can help outline what h character's general shape should be and if it's recognizable and/or able to be differentiated from other characters. Look up DotA 2's Character Art Guide workshop, it's a neat compilation of ideas that can be applied generally and not just for game design.

Anonymous Wed Nov 8 18:34:32 2017 No.3199604

>>3198000
Have you considered buying a tablet you can draw on directly? I understand that feeling of disconnection with drawing on a tablet and looking elsewhere for the results, it's why I saved up and purchased a used Cintiq 21UX. Best decision of the past 5 years.

Anonymous Wed Nov 8 18:36:51 2017 No.3199605

>>3198006
Surface pro 2, had a 3 before.

>>3199604
^
I don't have many points of comparison but I don't feel like it's a bad model, not really limiting me. Maybe a bigger size could help but I don't think so since I usually don't draw big anyway. Probably a mental block about something...

Anonymous Wed Nov 8 18:39:43 2017 No.3199613

>>3196289
>>3199604 here.

It felt like being born again and discovering art for the first time again, I can't go back now without putting up a fight. Being able to rely on the traditional methods of drawing I've been building since a kid was that cathartic as opposed to the disconcerting emotions I felt with a regular tablet.

Anonymous Wed Nov 8 18:44:44 2017 No.3199620

>>3199605
Try emulating drawing on paper as much as you can. Larger screen dimensions to simulate various paper sizes, using preset brushes that copy traditional materials, play with pen pressure settings, ect. It's what I choose to do when I feel overwhelmed by the technology or home sick for the pen and pad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 23:33:41 2017 No.3199789 While oil painting I spilled a tiny bit of oderless mineral spirits. I know this shit is insanely toxic, should I throw away everything it touched or just wipe with a rag and wash my hands with soap?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 03:20:47 2017 No.3199909 >>3199602 thanks, that looks pretty neat! >>3199589 line-of-action.com or quickposes.com

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 09:30:13 2017 No.3200018 >>3199613 boy i'm glad to hear that. i've used a standard tablet for 8+ years and i feel like i've never gotten over the disconnect. first screen tablet arriving in a few days and i'm excited!

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 10:43:09 2017 No.3200050 It is possible to forget how to render in paper with pencil? I have months just sketching in paper and painting in photoshop and I'm afraid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 11:19:18 2017 No.3200072 >>3200050 Something something fear is good

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 11:46:29 2017 No.3200089 Anyway to improve my doodles a bit? I love drawing, but I feel like everything I draw has a similiar taste to them. . https://youtu.be/u9ASi26bSxA

Anonymous Thu Nov 9 11:55:59 2017 No.3200094

>>3200089
you are doodling so you are using your muscle memory and accessing your own visual library. You will naturally draw shapes and objects that are more familiar. If you were to do a concentration study of a specific subject, say dog anatomy, then you doodles afterwards would be mostly of dogs or the shapes and forms you internalized while studying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 18:02:34 2017 No.3200294 I'm absolute /beg/ and would like to know a good place to start? I'm going to be studying a few books and doing exercises and drawing what I see for now. I guess from there I'll probably have a better idea of where to continue.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 19:10:29 2017 No.3200358 How to I develop Confident lines? I've been just repeatedly drawing Circles, Angles, squared, etc. I just want to know if that is the best way to develop them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 19:17:34 2017 No.3200365 >>3200358 that will get you the muscle memory. Doing studies helps you gain the visual library, combine the two and you'll draw more confidently.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 19:18:53 2017 No.3200367 >>3200358 By actually drawing the things you want to draw.

Anonymous Fri Nov 10 00:29:59 2017 No.3200607
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so i have been rendering a weird hat thing and i came accross this weird problem. how would you shade the inside of the hat if the light is coming out from outside
would it be 1. the darkest area is the one closet to the edge, 2. darkest area is in the centre of the image 3. no dark area, all neutral
?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 00:35:18 2017 No.3200612 >>3200607 It would be more like 2, but it also depends on whatever is on that side that's reflecting the light back into the bowl.

Anonymous Fri Nov 10 00:37:34 2017 No.3200614

>>3200612
i see, thanks
i am really close to doing 1 because if you think about it, the facets that are perpendicular to the eyes the closest are nearer the centre rather than the edge but that shading that way reaaly doesnt make any sense for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 00:40:11 2017 No.3200616 File: 70 KB, 363x385, wjat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3200612 wait a second, what about 4) 1, but including occulusion?

Anonymous Fri Nov 10 00:42:25 2017 No.3200618

>>3200614
It doesn't make any sense because the light there being reflected into the eyes is still less than the ones closer to the outside of the hat. It recedes into what is essentially a light-less environment like shown in 2.

I'm like this one though. Good job. >>3200616

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 00:43:27 2017 No.3200619 >>3200618 yup, fuck it. imma go shine a lamp on a bowl. brb 5 min

Anonymous Fri Nov 10 00:47:37 2017 No.3200622
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>>3200619
nope all 4 of these a wrong, i just shone my cereal bowl onto a lamp and it looked like this the most/

are there any tutorials online that show you how light works and doing drawings on it?

Anonymous Fri Nov 10 00:51:23 2017 No.3200623

>>3200622
Yeah, there's tons. Loomis's Successful drawing has a whole section on it. But they way to work with light is from life or reference instead of some tutorial. They mainly just tell you about the types of lights and shadows like terminator, hightlight, midtone, and what not. There's occlusion, secondary light source, reflected light and few more stuff, but it's really up to you to remember them and put them into your drawing rather than being able to see them, since you won't always be able to.

Anonymous Fri Nov 10 01:54:45 2017 No.3200660
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Could you folks recommend me a simple mac-compatible art software that isn't resource-heavy? My mac is getting weaker lately, and it screams when I load Potatoshop CS6 or Krita.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 02:03:23 2017 No.3200663 >>3200660 probably firealpaca, or speedypainter fire is probably better. they dont have as powerfull tools as PS or Corel but they are really lightweight

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 02:10:44 2017 No.3200670 File: 1.94 MB, 400x259, splos.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3200663 Thank you! I'm downloading FireAlpaca right now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 15:31:51 2017 No.3201164 Where can I get a full download of Michelangelo sketches or pics of the sculptures? I don't want to download one by one. I'm lazy.

Anonymous Fri Nov 10 21:20:54 2017 No.3201387

Why is it in Clip Studio Paint I can't seem to transform an ellipse the same way I can in Photoshop? CTRL clicking an ellipse by vector layer just messes around with manipulating the vector itself. But in Photoshop it's a simple ctrl+t to get ellipse right. It's killing me, I don't want to have to use photoshop for this. Am I missing something here?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 22:04:26 2017 No.3201420 Quite an obscure software but if someone is looking for a windows alternative, Azdrawing 2 is quite the tool for quick sketches.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 23:07:44 2017 No.3201459 >>3201387 ah i figured it out it was 'keep ratio of original image' option

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 23:20:52 2017 No.3201468 How do you sell yourself and get fans? I found out posting lots of sketches and wips works pretty well, anything else in that sense?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 10 23:28:06 2017 No.3201472 >>3201468 what sites do you post on?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 06:11:46 2017 No.3201636 File: 319 KB, 736x671, hmmmmm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So the 'figure' part is for gesture, but what about the faces, hands and stuff? Should I be aiming to being able to draw these all in less than 30 seconds?

Anonymous Sat Nov 11 10:08:53 2017 No.3201785

How much is too much when designing a character?
Say you have a trait that is expressed over their entire body, say "belts" for a common example. At what point are you just putting too many god damn belts?
(Not literally talking belts, but things of that nature)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 10:20:23 2017 No.3201792 >>3201785 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjDDqnkH8v0 others might disagree but I like his stuff. Also he has "made it" so I would take his advice over most of IC

Anonymous Sat Nov 11 10:27:36 2017 No.3201801

I have a mate who is color blind and really trying to improve at art. Are there any color blind artists (preferably digital) he could look up or message for help on dealing with the issue because it's something that I literally cannot sympathize with and therefore can't give any good advice on.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 10:42:05 2017 No.3201811 >>3201801 Pretty sure Nesskain is a little colorblind. If your friend doesn't mind not using a full spectrum of color maybe he could try using a limited palette with colors he does see.

Anonymous Sat Nov 11 14:30:09 2017 No.3201950

How long should it take someone to completely beat symbol drawing? You should be able to replicate a simple line art drawing (e.g anime) fairly accurately from any angle once you have, right?
Also, is overcoming this something you should focus on solely before moving on?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 14:35:14 2017 No.3201955 >>3180867 Will following Proko's tutorials make me git gud?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 14:54:18 2017 No.3201964 >>3201785 taste and experience will tell you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 15:06:26 2017 No.3201969 File: 97 KB, 800x600, white-owl-or-barred-owl-background-39874.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do when you have really cold hands and you live in literally Alaska so you don't have good movement in your hand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 15:08:02 2017 No.3201970 >>3201969 can you wear those wooly fingerless gloves?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 15:09:48 2017 No.3201972 >>3201970 I never thought about using them cause I thought your fingers would be cold anyways, but it doesn't hurt to try.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 15:44:13 2017 No.3201996 how do i learn how to draw?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 16:49:28 2017 No.3202085 >>3201950 I'll give you a hint anon. There's no such thing as symbol drawing. You just replace the "symbol" with a slightly better and more symbols and are capable of using critical thinking to fill in the blanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 11 17:29:45 2017 No.3202130 >>3180867 What's the best resource for learning to draw ergonomically? I used to draw for hours but my bullshit neck and back and stuff falls apart. I think I hunch over a lot without noticing. Should I be using an easel or something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 12 16:03:17 2017 No.3203033 How do you draw foreshortening on a human figure? It's tedious as fuck for me because I don't understand how it works.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 12 18:25:25 2017 No.3203184 Any recommended resources on learning to draw form?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 12 18:27:48 2017 No.3203186 >>3201996 >>3203184 Check the beginner thread big sticky If you're both absolute beginners the best book to start with is Keys to Drawing, it's in the artbook thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 12 19:43:24 2017 No.3203253 Complete newbie here I was recently told to draw ellipses, lines and boxes until I am confident in it however I never feel confident in what I do When do I stop?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 12 19:47:45 2017 No.3203257 >>3203253 You're supposed to do lines for 10 minutes a day Forms for as long as you feel like it Just do your thing man, don't dwell on one thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 12 19:50:50 2017 No.3203262 >>3203257 >been doing that for like 2 or 3 hours per day (or more) >for a week so far >it's actually 10 minutes goddamn I still don't feel confident in jack

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 02:11:35 2017 No.3203517 how can i draw thinner lines? i don't know if i draw too small or it's my pencils.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 11:26:25 2017 No.3203782 I'm very used to tilting and rotating my paper when I draw, I was wondering if I should try to keep the paper absolutely still or tilting & rotating is fine as is? I'm interested in drawing digitally as well, which I'd assume might be a problem later.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 11:30:40 2017 No.3203785 >>3203782 You can tilt and rotate the tablet or yourself later anyways, but you really should try not drawing tilted.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 14:47:44 2017 No.3203956 Can someone explain why proko couldn't draw from imagination? Not trolling, I genuinely want to know so I can avoid his mistakes

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 15:04:38 2017 No.3203975 >>3203956 He said so himself, "don't make the same mistake I did, don't wait 10 years to start drawing from imagination".

Anonymous Mon Nov 13 15:11:03 2017 No.3203979

>>3203956
He was rushing in that video if that's what you mean. The kind of traditional work that Proko does takes a lot of time too but looks really nice. It'd be a different story if he was a more imaginary based artist but he's not. He mainly works realistically and from life.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 17:02:55 2017 No.3204076 So I've finished Hampton's figure drawing series, and I now have a basic knowledge of where all the muscles go. How do I go from this to drawing realistic figures?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 17:12:22 2017 No.3204080 >>3204076 can I see some of your hampton?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 17:21:10 2017 No.3204083 >>3204076 >he thinks figures are just about where the muscles go kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 17:32:38 2017 No.3204093 >>3203782 Draw as you like, rotating is useful. You can rotate canvas in most programs using R. If you get a tablet with touch functions you can rotate the canvas with your fingers, no problem at all. >>3203785 Why are you giving them bad advice?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 17:43:50 2017 No.3204108 File: 277 KB, 943x541, 1484899506678.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] could someone please explain this meme? i don't know what the naked mole rat thing is but i see it a lot.

Anonymous Mon Nov 13 22:22:03 2017 No.3204440

After all this time I'm still having trouble with the fundamentals. Dodson and Edwards didn't do shit (I must've drawn Stravinsky upside down about 15 times now), and Fun with a Pencil was a waste of time. What books do you suggest and in which order? What about that meme image that talked about how to get good in a year?

Anonymous Mon Nov 13 22:41:47 2017 No.3204461

>>3204440
Fundamentals aren't books and books don't do anything for you either. The only person who does something is you. To get straight to the point the fundamentals means to draw from life, so you should do that. Do that all the time and you'll definitely get better within a year's time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 13 23:46:34 2017 No.3204512 >>3204461 Well I'm glad to hear that. I could never get the hang of all these concepts and guidelines

Anonymous Tue Nov 14 01:02:22 2017 No.3204569 [DELETED]

not really a question but not often does something from /ic/ come up in my job, but today i was drawing a face for a portrait and i realised that the way i map it out is not dissimilar to that complex looking way of drawing a face people here (used to) swear by, and at the time i thought it was bullshit, i was like 'all you need is a circle, if that' but if i had just tried that other method i perhaps could have spent less time on learning how to draw a face and more on how to paint one lol. anyway, so i guess just a beyond-the-grave recommendation for the..um..not the loomis one, the one where it has tons of cross contours, i think the guy has an 'online academy', hopely someone remembers what it's called

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 14 01:03:52 2017 No.3204571 File: 42 KB, 564x497, 628ca3c7dcf3113194f01589b8200672[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3204569 ah i remember watts aka this thing

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 14 01:05:26 2017 No.3204573 File: 31 KB, 728x600, 8dbcf1898e9ec96bd661e67998fb496c--drawing-techniques-drawing-tips[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3204571 one not by someone who sucks

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 14 08:54:00 2017 No.3204859 File: 759 KB, 1536x2048, 8246CA51-A479-41E9-AEE8-B36C64BAC0CB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3204108 Ever heard of Proko and his kangaroo drawing from imagination?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 14 15:26:03 2017 No.3205151 Anyone got that tutorial picture about visual measuring, I can't remember if it's using an original portrait drawing, or if it was a Singer Sargent study, but it's a four panel picture visualizing different ways of measuring, like 2d mapping.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 14 16:58:15 2017 No.3205273 File: 332 KB, 718x1041, 1358865482839.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3205151

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 14 16:59:11 2017 No.3205274 File: 1002 KB, 913x1019, ways to see by mrDExArts on deviantART.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3205273 there's also this

Anonymous Tue Nov 14 17:52:19 2017 No.3205328

Stupid question: how do I navigate weibo.cn? found a cool artist and I want to look at their galley and favorites but clicking shit gets me nowhere. I don't know if the site has "reblog/retweet" feature or if the page I got into was from the original artist. Any help?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 14 18:47:08 2017 No.3205388 File: 45 KB, 380x376, 1437255525716.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3204859 googled it. i grow enlightened in life. thank u anon

Anonymous Tue Nov 14 20:01:17 2017 No.3205458
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As this thread is now autosaging, feel free to join the new thread
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As it had some success (thanks to anyone who helped) I'll make a new list of unanswered questions as I did in >>3181009

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 15 08:42:54 2017 No.3205855 >>3205273 This is the one thanks

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