Alternative Art/Stylization General

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Alternative Art/Stylization General Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk Fri Oct 20 07:29:38 2017 No.3179213 [Reply] [Original]

Last thread: >>3172051

This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works in-between their studies, however, all forms of stylization is welcome here. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, remember to have fun because I told you to.

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threads post-it note: There are a lack of Halloween submissions that I forgot what month we're in!

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 07:40:02 2017 No.3179219 File: 172 KB, 1000x614, tumblr_5749fjn0_989afeu0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3179213 I like Puppeteer Lee, Re:Dye, and Zennosuke ( I think it's written in hiragana though)

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 08:03:45 2017 No.3179234 >>3179213 Whats the name of the book on pic related?

>>	Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk Fri Oct 20 08:13:12 2017 No.3179237 >>3179234 It's a poster ad for a class in korea, not a book.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 13:27:00 2017 No.3179422 File: 74 KB, 556x1000, EADB15D4-4307-4887-9446-7AF74E984C4C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3178783

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 13:41:54 2017 No.3179431 >>3179422 Firez? Looks nice, but it looks like she's falling gracefully

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 13:53:17 2017 No.3179433 File: 276 KB, 600x800, koume1-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Opinions

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 14:10:01 2017 No.3179442 >>3179433 Hi, Kyle. Cute, but it's hard to tell where her right hand is and what it's doing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 14:17:07 2017 No.3179449 >>3179433 Damn, I always took your process to be meticulous even from the sketch because of how clean and smooth your final products are. Nice feet but the lighting on her doesn't fit the Halloween mood (yet, if you're already working on that).

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 14:19:30 2017 No.3179450 >>3179433 Liking it. Don't forget to mind the lighting from the pumpkin.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 15:21:33 2017 No.3179492 File: 342 KB, 1200x593, 006c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This one was shaping up a bit badly, so I decided to try to wrap it up quickly

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 16:26:43 2017 No.3179545 >>3179433 Your Koume isn't gloomy enough.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 16:30:12 2017 No.3179555 File: 125 KB, 1200x592, 96jr72F[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3179492 All I have is MSPaint but your mouth is too low and your nose can be adjusted

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 16:31:26 2017 No.3179559 File: 65 KB, 701x896, noir.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] could use some pointers on lighting

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 16:45:36 2017 No.3179582 File: 406 KB, 511x567, doHy53X[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think I overdid the shadows but it was too addicting. I don't know why I keep doing lighting from the top/back.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 16:53:19 2017 No.3179593 File: 172 KB, 498x600, Untitled-4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 16:59:23 2017 No.3179599 >>3179559 It's awful. start over and make her a loli.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 17:04:01 2017 No.3179604 File: 16 KB, 320x257, o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3179582 i like it anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 17:35:27 2017 No.3179646 File: 998 KB, 745x746, hair study.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hair studys from photo ref

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 18:55:53 2017 No.3179717 File: 309 KB, 803x884, CLIPStudioPaint_2017-10-21_06-55-08.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't color often so I thought I'd do something simple.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 19:54:03 2017 No.3179790 >>3179492 While muscle is pretty rigid, it still gives in. I feel like you should make her a bit softer, add some skindentation where there's buildings or large amounts of rubble. etc. muscled doesn't mean rock solid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 19:54:43 2017 No.3179791 where can I get more art friends I feel so ronery

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 20:09:19 2017 No.3179808 >>3179717 How did I get as good as you? Have you been drawing long?

>>	the great muttsby Fri Oct 20 20:14:46 2017 No.3179816 >>3179646 nice

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 20 20:58:52 2017 No.3179848 File: 31 KB, 391x349, 1458681612642.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3179791 but also kill yourself because this isn't the place for that

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 02:01:07 2017 No.3180027 >>3179790 Sorry, I'm not quite sure what you mean by this... do you mean that the buildings should be pressing into her skin a bit? I was working under the impression that at her size she'd break everything without trouble.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 02:03:08 2017 No.3180029 >>3180027 Pretty sure that's what anon means. Anon was saying that despite destroying everything, it should still act like skin and have indentations unless she's way harder than the buildings made of steel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 04:52:30 2017 No.3180163 File: 209 KB, 874x1600, Massa kiki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Burnt out a little after the character design thing and mouse scroll broke so only did a quickie today

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 05:03:43 2017 No.3180169 >>3179219 >>3179593 >>3179717 >>3180163 /beg/

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 05:05:00 2017 No.3180170 >>3180169 no i dont want to go to your dead thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 05:10:47 2017 No.3180173 >>3179559 its pretty good, but the PS liquify smoke looks too CG next to the character. id redo the smoke to fit the character better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 05:11:45 2017 No.3180175 File: 782 KB, 956x1400, raven.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what you guys think?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 05:27:46 2017 No.3180185 >>3180175 It's nice, but I think you'd fare better in a more appropriate thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 05:35:42 2017 No.3180194 >>3180170 /beg/ is pretty active.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 08:28:59 2017 No.3180284 File: 1.04 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_6359.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 08:31:29 2017 No.3180285

>>3180027
Yeah basically what the other anon said, unless that's what you're going for.
Like if you put a small weight on your leg its still going to push down on you.
Naturally being that much bigger than normal would make you harder than a typical person, but relative I figure a building might still have some relative weight to her.
If she's steel hard though that's fine, just my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 08:38:19 2017 No.3180292 >>3180284 Can't draw != style

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 09:02:27 2017 No.3180313 >>3179492 the sidemouth makes me want to cry fampai

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 09:04:38 2017 No.3180315 File: 761 KB, 2894x4093, jpeg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 09:06:12 2017 No.3180316 >>3179646 please teach me to draw hair senpai

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 09:25:50 2017 No.3180328 File: 145 KB, 458x278, anzuskin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3180285 I kind of get it now, but I'm not too sure how to render it. Something like this perhaps?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 09:30:39 2017 No.3180336 >>3180284 >>3180315 What's up with all this /beg/ trash on this thread lately? >>3180328 Holy shit man work on your fucking faces. Do you even study?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 09:38:56 2017 No.3180342 >>3180336 Cute anime faces from the side is really difficult :(

Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk Sat Oct 21 09:39:31 2017 No.3180343
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>>3180336
>This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works >in-between their studies<, however, all forms of stylization is welcome here. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 10:26:38 2017 No.3180367 File: 715 KB, 2894x4093, S-SORRY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3180336 o-ok anon, w-why are you so angry? i-is this one acceptable?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 10:50:26 2017 No.3180388 >>3180367 don't pay attention to that guy, he's pretty gay just keep working anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 13:21:20 2017 No.3180546 File: 285 KB, 824x800, NewCanvas1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3180367

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 13:35:39 2017 No.3180555 >>3180546 Wow, that actually looks cute

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 14:44:24 2017 No.3180613 >>3179646 blog?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:21:00 2017 No.3180647 >>3179433 I really like this, do you have a blog/site to follow you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:29:05 2017 No.3180659 File: 329 KB, 1000x1000, rrrr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3180546 Probably not helpful but i had fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:31:45 2017 No.3180666 >>3180659 You somehow made the neck to the torso worse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:33:13 2017 No.3180670 File: 551 KB, 932x900, FirstAttemptAtActuallyDigitallyDrawing.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ah shit I should have posted this here, and not on Draw Thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:33:47 2017 No.3180672 File: 1.23 MB, 1804x880, AnotherDigitalAttempt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3180670 my bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:38:55 2017 No.3180685 >>3180666 I mainly focused on the head, but yea you are right. Sorry.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 15:58:42 2017 No.3180716 >>3180613 https://www.evaneley.tumblr.com/

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 16:56:41 2017 No.3180766 Not him but I figured I'd share. http://kairunoburogu.tumblr.com/

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 17:45:27 2017 No.3180804 >>3180659 But now you're missing the digastric plane that connects the bottom of the jaw to the neck

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:27:01 2017 No.3180850 >>3180804 No in this stylization that plane is represented through line weight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:34:32 2017 No.3180858 File: 1.07 MB, 720x990, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3179431 Thanks, I should have been more attentive to the pose though >>3176589 trying to bs my way into a believable space bg with a bunch of random brushes and dodge color layers

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 18:57:02 2017 No.3180884 File: 955 KB, 1704x2411, IMG_20171021_202809.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hopefully next one will be better...

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 19:46:46 2017 No.3180923 >>3180884 You really need to add some stronger perspective to this. Something like this really benefits from a lower view, that aside, the perspective on her in general is all types of wonked, also no eyebrows.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:00:46 2017 No.3180935 File: 89 KB, 708x622, doglike.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3180923 why do feet suck so much ass to draw

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:02:27 2017 No.3180938 File: 89 KB, 708x622, doglike.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why do feet suck so much ass to draw

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:19:02 2017 No.3180950 >>3180923 Yeah the original idea was using a lower angle and a real background, but its been long since last time I drew anything so I just can't keep my shit togheter. wasted already enough time on this The eyebrows are ok like that though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:31:42 2017 No.3180959 >>3180938 Your lines and style are really cute and pleasing to look at. The feet and hands you've drawn are good, but the detailing of the feet clashes with the chunkier, cartoony hands, I feel. Seriously great work, otherwise, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 20:53:53 2017 No.3180970 File: 474 KB, 1312x1036, x10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] gHfDyTuIoPeWcXqZmKxV

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:06:29 2017 No.3180974 >>3180970 most noteable thing to me is that you elongated her.

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:12:42 2017 No.3180977

>>3180959
danke! and dang, you're right. i added a bit more detail to the hands (small clawnails, few light tendon lines) to hopefully bring the feet a bit more in line but they still feel way more detailed. i tried simplifying the toes a bit but when i do that i lose the entire form of the foot. guess i'll have to leave it as is, need to study feet more as much as that makes me :c

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:14:59 2017 No.3180978 >>3179559 occlusion shadows for the love of god not every single form has reflected light in every cranny

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:16:21 2017 No.3180979 >>3180978 not him but it's called style, alt STYLE, bending the rules of art is what makes pictures interesting

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:20:26 2017 No.3180983

>>3180978
Not the artist, but I'm stupid and still don't get occlusion shadows. Is it just where the darkest values are, where light can't reach or different forms of touching? Like would OP have to add shadows separating the underboob and ribs, and the neck?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:22:08 2017 No.3180984 >>3180979 I don't think you're not wrong, but stylistic choices need harsher scrutiny, not immunity from it. Personally, I think it should be pushed more if it's an intentional stylistic choice, right now it smells something like pillow shading.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:23:17 2017 No.3180987 >>3180983 pretty much https://youtu.be/V3WmrWUEIJo?t=222

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:41:26 2017 No.3181000

When drawing traps, is it better to use rounder or sharper shapes?
Rounder makes them more feminine, but for a trap I feel like that might detract from the intended aesthetic, giving them a bit sharper of features makes it a bit more masculine but still has femininity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:45:36 2017 No.3181003 >>3181000 You want it to be a trap don't you? it needs to be feminine

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:45:55 2017 No.3181004 File: 134 KB, 702x689, 3442242.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] please help me

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:48:35 2017 No.3181005 >>3181003 Yeah but doesn't that fall too much into the >draw a girl >call it a boy territory? a trap should have aesthetics that do show femininity without giving up all the masculinity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:54:07 2017 No.3181014 >>3180977 Do You have a blog dude

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 21:57:08 2017 No.3181018 File: 266 KB, 1127x698, threat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My most recent attempt at manga style drawing (with mouse). I know it looks rough as hell but your opinion would be appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:00:14 2017 No.3181027 There used to be a discord posted for these threads, is that thing still going or did it get nuked like everything else?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:01:44 2017 No.3181032 >>3181027 What is the point of discord if you have a thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:02:53 2017 No.3181035 >>3181027 https://discord.gg/zwqpBH

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:03:10 2017 No.3181036 >>3181032 despair posting and fun drawing that isn't directed at a finished piece, thus not needing a critique and wouldn't be on topic for /ic/

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:05:18 2017 No.3181038 File: 957 KB, 2592x1597, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Dutch portrait manga. The original subject looks like Christian Bale in 'Little Women'.

>>	puts Sat Oct 21 22:08:32 2017 No.3181041 File: 196 KB, 702x689, 1508636755211.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3181004 just practice doing some simple cel shading

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:10:03 2017 No.3181044 >>3180546 >>3180659 Thanks Anon for the input. And seriously yeah I'm to retarded to draw good hair.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:16:16 2017 No.3181057 >>3181004 i dont know what to tell you besides practice more ^^;

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:17:20 2017 No.3181060 >>3181057 post work asshole

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:18:57 2017 No.3181062 >>3181027 I don't like interacting with any of you beyond what's provided on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:35:28 2017 No.3181071 File: 429 KB, 765x1000, okita charging.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:37:36 2017 No.3181073
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going for some softer shapes

>>3179433
>>3179593
>>3179646
>>3180175
really like these

>>3180938
this is awesome, but like >>3180959 said the small and detailed human toes clash with the style. Also please make a blog already

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:39:40 2017 No.3181076 File: 330 KB, 1314x1444, Screen Shot 2017-10-21 at 6.26.26 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 22:40:46 2017 No.3181077 File: 609 KB, 1070x1728, Screen Shot 2017-10-21 at 7.38.37 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3181076 don't know what the fuck happened to the resolution there

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 23:10:03 2017 No.3181110
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>>3181060
sorry if the comment came across as mean, it wasn't my intention to hurt your feelings.

>falling for the 'post your work' meme
consider this redraw as part of my apology, i know i still need lots of practice too!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 23:10:09 2017 No.3181111 File: 662 KB, 1159x1500, Dracus-Cover1 WIP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A sketch for a cover.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 23:11:48 2017 No.3181114 >>3181110 Blog?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 23:17:16 2017 No.3181122 >>3181110 im sorry please be my friend

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 23:20:02 2017 No.3181126 >>3181110 >>3181114 2nding this

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 23:22:11 2017 No.3181132 >>3181110 Do you take in disciples to mentor?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 23:24:08 2017 No.3181135 >>3181122 >>3181132 Pathetic

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 23:25:54 2017 No.3181141

>>3181122
He just redrew your picture, he didnt give you any advice on how to fix what you drew. Use your brain instead of trying to suck someones dick just because they are better than you.
If he had given you good advice, then it would be a different story.

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 23:27:47 2017 No.3181143
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>>3180978
I hear ya. I was kinda fumbling around not know what kind of lighting I wanted to go for and rushed through it. Still am tbqh
>>3179599
But I don't like little girls, anon.
>>3180173
Ty. Should definitelyt be more stylized

Anonymous Sat Oct 21 23:37:58 2017 No.3181151

>>3181114
>>3181126
ahh i don't draw enough to keep up a good blog

>>3181122
don't be sorry it was my bad, i realize now how it could have been taken the wrong way. it would have helped more if i gave actual advice like >>3181141 said so uh here goes nothing. i think you would benefit from training your eyes to get used to anime faces/anatomy that you like, and trying to replicate those (interspersed with studying real life anatomy too). instead of relying on things (like clothing) to hide body parts you're not familiar with or don't like drawing (for example, the neck being covered by the big chunky choker), leave your comfort zone and draw them. in fact, even for the body parts that ARE covered, try drawing what they'd look like behind/underneath whatever it is they're covered by. it might look off in the beginning, but it's a good first step to more natural looking poses ^^

>>3181132
desu not good enough for that yet especially since i still struggle in critiquing. i-im trying though!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 21 23:41:07 2017 No.3181159 >>3180938 >>3181073 what brushes/programs do you guys use? really like your stuff!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 01:30:05 2017 No.3181224 File: 475 KB, 467x872, Screenshot (106).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 01:32:18 2017 No.3181226 How do I draw clothes

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 02:20:34 2017 No.3181255 >>3181226 you shove some blankets up your ass then feel the form of them

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 02:50:13 2017 No.3181275 [DELETED]

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1st of all sorry for bad pic, sketched at work n only have my phone.
The connection of the right arm confuses me a lot, can someone do my a favor and redline/help me understand how it works?

It posted sideways rip Sun Oct 22 02:54:01 2017 No.3181279
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Sorry bout bad quality, only have my phone with me right now. Can someone help me with the connection of the right arm? Im not sure ive drawn it right, a redline would be really helpful! Thx guys

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 02:55:25 2017 No.3181281 >>3181279 Blog?

>>	It posted sideways rip Sun Oct 22 02:55:56 2017 No.3181282 >>3181281 @piliwinx on instagram

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 02:57:56 2017 No.3181284 >>3181279 I like it! Shoulder is def way too far out for that angle tho and imo the torso feels a bit stubby, like those legs could be farther down.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 04:27:11 2017 No.3181334 >>3181073 This is cute, blog?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 06:30:02 2017 No.3181380 File: 132 KB, 504x592, witch mercy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3181279 tried fixing the pose and stuff but i cant get that right arm quite right, going to look at it with fresh eyes tomorrow

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 07:10:16 2017 No.3181396 >>3180169 what do you beg for? Puppeteer Lee and the others are pretty good newfag

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:23:50 2017 No.3181418

>>3180284
Wtf is this garbage, go to /beg/
>>3180315
Okay drawing. The eyes are fucked up but cloth seems to be your strongest point. Keep going.
>>3180328
God I hate your fucking faces. Your stylistic decisions are also pretty bad. You're like the sycra of 4chan
>>3180367
Face is kind of nice but the torso anatomy is completely fucked up. As well as the arms.
>>3180970
Not too bad. You lost structure though, most notably in the torso and foot area. The body is also elongated in such a way that the appeal was lost from the original drawing.
>>3181004
This is pretty bad. I don't even know where to start. Everything needs to be improved. The head lacks structure(have you ever studied skulls or actual heads), hair design needs work(observe the hair designs of pros and compare and contract, your simplification decisions in general aren't good because you clearly don't understand anatomy, study your basics.
>>3181041
Don't redline again. You made it even worse.
>>3181073
Best in this thread so far
>>3181071
Stop coloring and work on your anatomical structure. You lack an understanding of planes so your shading comes across as random and flat.
>>3181110
decent redline
>>3181279
back to /beg/// with you
>>3181224
/beg///

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:27:06 2017 No.3181422 >>3181418 Post you're art.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:29:25 2017 No.3181425 >>3181422 Yeah, I'll totally post my work and completely sabotage my reputation. Fucking retard. This board is anonymous for a reason, this post your work meme needs to die.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:33:06 2017 No.3181429 File: 60 KB, 491x427, Lanjutan pakudut.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can someone help me redline this especially the arm, I know I am still /beg/, but i need this thing done tomorrow

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:36:18 2017 No.3181431 File: 50 KB, 384x384, 1502085165223.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3181425 yes your reputation, of course. wouldn't want those /b/tards knowing you actually go to /ic/

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:40:14 2017 No.3181432 >>3179433 >Kyle posted his shit and disappeared >again Classic shilling

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:47:25 2017 No.3181437 >>3181425 >this post your work meme needs to die. This. We need to secure our shitposting abilities. Shitposters have rights

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:48:48 2017 No.3181439 >>3181431 Are you projecting. This is the only 4chan board I use. >>3181432 So what? >>3181429 How about you finish the fucking drawing first and then ask for a redline?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:50:04 2017 No.3181440 File: 520 KB, 500x431, 689ceac737f1f7cdc54f7ecc9e71fc2d.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3181439 OTW

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:54:23 2017 No.3181443

>>3181437
I agree though I'm not really shiposting. I'm simply giving unfiltered feedback rather than sugarcoating everything. If someone is good, I acknowledge that they are good, if they are bad then I tell them the truth. Nothing else to it.

From now on shitposting should be Honest Posting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:57:12 2017 No.3181445 >>3181443 "unfiltered feedback" is just unconstructive criticism done solely to be an asshole.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 08:59:16 2017 No.3181446 >>3181445 Whatever helps you sleep at night, snowflake.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:01:10 2017 No.3181447 >>3181446 Literally noone holds anything against someone that offers real critique or advice. >Your anatomy is lacking as evidence by xyz is not the same as >Your anatomy sucks kek XD go back to the beg thread! LOOOMISSS

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:07:58 2017 No.3181453

>>3181447
Strawman argument. I was always very specific with which part sucked. If someone told me my heads suck because they lack structure, then that'd would be enough of a constructive critique for me to go out and actually work on it rather than waiting for someone to hold my head and work with my step by step where exactly I needed to fix and how to fix it. This is the problem with a lot of you millennials, you want everything to be spoonfed to you like a fucking child. How about you apply some fucking critical thinking for once.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:09:08 2017 No.3181454 >>3181453 hold my hand*

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:09:49 2017 No.3181455 File: 52 KB, 1884x194, 1234567890-.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3181443 >Honest Posting This is /ic/, not /b/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:11:28 2017 No.3181457 >>3181455 I've never been on /b/. What relevance does that screenshot have?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:12:21 2017 No.3181458 >>3181453 No one wants useless advices from delusional shitters who can't draw. Go away

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:12:51 2017 No.3181459 >>3181453 You "specifics" are about as specific as you can make them because you're fucking trash and don't know what you're talking about. You might get right on occasion this way, but your lack of skill is obvious just from your critiques.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:16:32 2017 No.3181461 >>3181453 >God I hate your fucking faces. Your stylistic decisions are also pretty bad. You're like the sycra of 4chan Nice

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:18:54 2017 No.3181462

>>3181110
>>3181459

You're fucking retarded dude. Not everyone is an analytic artist. Those who are able to critique well are generally artists who started later in life as adults and approached art from an analytical perspective. There are a lot of talented artists who started really young who won't be able to give you an articulate answer to why your drawing is wrong but can still make the necessary corrections as evidenced from above. Personally, I'm more of an analytical artist but the reason why my replies were concise was because I didn't want to type 3 paragraphs for everyone I responded too.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:20:46 2017 No.3181464

>>3181462
>I can't draw. but let me tell you how to
and that's why noone will ever take you seriously. art for the most part is a knowledge game, even if you don't have arms if you smash your face against the tablet in the proper way you'll eventually get what you want.
if you can't do that, you obviously don't really know what you're talking about, you're regurgitating what you read in a book.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:24:30 2017 No.3181467

>>3181462
What the fuck are you talkin about? Your critique is shit and this is your post
>I'll totally post my work and completely sabotage my reputation. Fucking retard. This board is anonymous for a reason, this post your work meme needs to die.
>This board is anonymous for a reason, this post your work meme needs to die.
You're nothing but shitposter who can't draw

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:28:10 2017 No.3181470

>>3181464
"art for the most part is a knowledge game"
"you're regurgitating what you read in a book"

Knowledge can be gained from books, dumb ass. I personally know this /beg/ level artist who gives really solid critique and advice. Just because you can't apply something yourself, doesn't mean what you're saying is wrong. Either way, it seems like you're trying really really hard for me to post my work. Are you butthurt from my critique? If you can't handle the heat get out of the oven, snowflake. You'll melt in there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:28:59 2017 No.3181471 >>3180169 post your work

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:30:19 2017 No.3181472 >>3181470 >Knowledge can be gained from books, dumb ass. I personally know this /beg/ level artist who gives really solid critique and advice hahahahah

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:32:07 2017 No.3181473

>>3181470
>anecdote based on your experience as an inexperienced artist
that's not how it works, because you don't have any idea what a good critique would have been so you have nothing to compare the /beg/ to.
>knowledge can be gained from books
depends on the knowledge, draw a fucking apple and post it here for all I care. just because you "know" the knowledge doesn't mean you actually understand how to apply it. And that second part is the import one. Everyone knows that obj blocks light = shadow, less light = darker shadow. few people actually can perfect shading.

>you really want me to post my work
no i'm calling you out on your obviously retarded post because you are obviously retarded. Any retard with even a month of experience can tell you're full of shit. If you want to prove me wrong, draw me a bushel of apples, I'm sure that won't be connected back to you and "hurt your reputation"

kill yourself faggot. and the snowflake defense doesn't work when you sound like an entitled shitposter.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:38:50 2017 No.3181481

>>3181473
Look dude, I really really really don't give a shit whether you find my critique valid or not. You're probably one of those /beg/tards in here who got butthurt from my critique. Like I already said, it's completely up to you to take my critique or not, I'm not here to hold your hand.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:40:42 2017 No.3181482 >>3181481 >>3181470 >/beg/tards >butthurt At least you show us your true face. As expected

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:41:02 2017 No.3181483 File: 1.29 MB, 702x1000, 6WlVsH6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3179213

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:41:30 2017 No.3181485 >>3181481 Always makes me laugh how hard people go out of their way to just post their art. Even when given simple alternatives like drawing an apple in 5 seconds in MSpaint

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:42:31 2017 No.3181486 >>3181485 not post their art*

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:42:46 2017 No.3181487 >>3181482 True face? You act like I was being nice at first? What part of "unfiltered feedback" went over your neanderthal head?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:44:49 2017 No.3181488 >>3181485 Always makes me laugh so hard how people go out of their way to make someone post their art when they get butthurt over critique. >y-you c-c-critique isn't valid u-unless you're good Sorry, I don't need any validation from you faggots.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:45:30 2017 No.3181489 >another so called "unfiltered critic" afraid to post their own art really makes you think

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:48:17 2017 No.3181492 >>3181489 I DID post my work though. I just don't want to have it associated with my unfiltered feedback.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:48:25 2017 No.3181493

>>3181488
>Sorry, I don't need any validation from you faggots.
you're clearly looking for something since you're still posting.

so you're either "an epic troll" and 12, or you're looking for some form of validation for someone to swoop in and defend you with a really bad cooking analogy/

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:51:53 2017 No.3181498 >>3181493 I'm looking for the same thing you're looking for buddy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:52:57 2017 No.3181499 >>3181492 Literally, one of the drawings in this thread belongs to me. Let's see if you faggots can guess.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:53:06 2017 No.3181500 >>3181498 >i know you are but what am i

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 09:54:56 2017 No.3181502 >>3181500 I'm defending my pride.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 10:44:28 2017 No.3181541 File: 185 KB, 1059x700, Shit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3181429 >>3181439 redline please, I know I am still /beg/, but i need this thing done tomorrow

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 11:26:29 2017 No.3181560 File: 1.86 MB, 5787x3806, sketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anon please stop fighting. why don't we just get along and post drawing. but damn, drawing in a small drawing tablet is hard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 11:44:31 2017 No.3181567 File: 85 KB, 323x500, 1505046408181.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3179492 I love your stuff anon but the others are right, the mouth is a little wonky

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 12:34:51 2017 No.3181595 >>3181541 I see that 0033 reference there, boy. I think you need to study his head and neck tutorials as well

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 12:38:32 2017 No.3181596 File: 471 KB, 1026x1324, Untitled-2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I posted >>3181292 on the drawthread but it might be better fit for this thread. Can anyone help me, with an opinion on the issue at least?

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 12:41:14 2017 No.3181601

>>3181044
You're welcome. Sorry for the shitty redline, I did in like a minute while multitasking, haha. I think the biggest problem that you had was making the far eye both smaller in width and height. Unless their face is very close to the camera or there is some crazy distortion happening, the far eye will only differ in width from the other eye not height. It has to do with relative distance

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 12:47:20 2017 No.3181607 >>3181596 >goes to alt style for advice Nigga you shoulda just stayed in the drawthread, they can give you much better advice than /beg-2.0/

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 12:52:41 2017 No.3181611 >>3181607 Oh, o-ok. Now I'm in both I guess, double the chances right? I'll just wait for a (You).

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 13:07:25 2017 No.3181622 >>3181224 Ignoring this autist >>3181418 my work never seems to get much attention. Could I get a crit?

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 13:09:18 2017 No.3181624

>>3181622
Simply, its just too shit to really give a meaningful critique.
At this point basically everything is wrong and you need to learn basically everything. The line confidence is good, but that's about it.
Basically every single tab of the sticky is what you need to look at right now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 13:20:38 2017 No.3181633 >>3181624 Giant loli guy has so many clear anatomy issues that nobody points out yet people love his shit, anatomically 3181224 is proportionate and moderately accurate. You've convinced me alt is fucking trash.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 13:22:17 2017 No.3181635 >>3181633 if you can render prettily people will accept your flaws

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 13:24:51 2017 No.3181637 >>3181633 Your work doesn't need to be accurate for it to be liked

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 13:28:59 2017 No.3181645 >>3181637 Well according to >>3181624 it's not accurate at all. Explain. Is it the gesture, is it the style, what do you find unappealing

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 13:42:41 2017 No.3181656 the fuck happened to this thread?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 13:47:30 2017 No.3181658 >>3181656 ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 13:47:51 2017 No.3181659 >>3181656 alt is full of narcissistic bucket crabs who couldn't give a proper critique if their depended on it

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 14:05:12 2017 No.3181671

>>3181633
Anatomy issues is not the same a lack of understanding of the totality of anatomy.
Giant loli guy, while he has some anatomy issues, has enough understanding that his lolis look like they are mostly correct. You can always pick out a few things wrong but for the most part that can be overlooked.
If you picture however, there isn't even a basic understanding, you have arms and legs, but they look nothing like arms or legs., the legs and stomach are especially bad, what the fuck are those lines even supposed to be?
It is "semi" proportionate but its too lacking to really come off as appealing.
appeal is base don many things, giant loli guy is great at some of it and not so great at others, but overall it comes together in an appealing piece.

an outline of a girl on a white screen needs to have better human fundamentals than a giant loli crushing a landscape, because the entirety of the focus is on the person.

and no, your shitty girl is nowhere near as well drawn as the giant loli.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 14:10:31 2017 No.3181676 File: 678 KB, 595x515, 1463171878234.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3181645 That work falls in a spot where it's not shit, not good and not eye catching, that's all

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:14:18 2017 No.3181735 File: 738 KB, 2424x1800, nerobasta sketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A few sketches.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:15:54 2017 No.3181737 File: 1.02 MB, 2820x2076, dermonsfront sketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3181735

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:17:14 2017 No.3181742 File: 662 KB, 1500x919, meragarandrunk sketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3181737

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:42:41 2017 No.3181759 >>3181735 >>3181737 >>3181742 Elizabeth, Elaine and Diane when

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:44:23 2017 No.3181761 >>3181759 Don't have much interest in drawing Elizabeth, she already gets a ton of fanarts anyway. Could consider Elaine and Diane tough.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:45:10 2017 No.3181762 >>3181759 >not listing Jericho Shit taste

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:47:30 2017 No.3181764 >>3181735 >>3181737 >>3181742 this is the first time ive really noticed, you arent very ggood at drawing appealing hair.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:48:51 2017 No.3181765 >>3181761 Even the new Elizabeth with her new hair cut? Shame. Thanks for considering though.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:48:56 2017 No.3181766
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>>3181759
>>3181762
I did draw Jericho and Elaine once last year by the way, tough it was just a little sketch.

>>3181764
Those are sketches, I usually draw the hair properly for the clean.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:51:08 2017 No.3181768 >>3181418 Y dont u reply to >>3181380 and actually critique instead of "go to beg"

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:52:32 2017 No.3181772 >>3181766 Cute!

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:53:34 2017 No.3181773 >>3181735 >>3181737 >>3181742 >>3181766 Hey Smurf got any tips for learning how to do hair like yours?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:56:05 2017 No.3181778 >>3181773 You're asking that seriously right? Since you quoted sketches that, again, have very sloppily done hair.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:56:31 2017 No.3181780 Does anyone know who twitch. tv/mister903 is? Some Korean streamer(s) that had >7000 concurrent viewers today in the drawing section which is ridiculous. Is he famous or something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 15:57:42 2017 No.3181781 >>3181780 Some of their stream work put on pixiv https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=7512450

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 16:00:07 2017 No.3181783 >>3181778 Yeah I know how they would look finished, it's not like I haven't seen your other works.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 16:08:01 2017 No.3181792 >>3181781 that guy is famous in korea I think

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 16:10:56 2017 No.3181795
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>>3181783
Not really sure what to say, making them detailed and making the strands shapes as diversified as possible works pretty well. That and a trying to make a general shape interesting to look at. Studying other artists that does hair well helps a lot, don't think there is some big secret, it's just about trying yourself while looking on the side references and trying to understand what you're missing.

For the shading of darker hair, I'd advise to first draw on a layer the general shapes, then you do the hatching shading on a new layer after that. It gets pretty useful to test and erases the shading while keeping the general strands. Then again, that might be obvious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 16:11:15 2017 No.3181798 Just another random Korean streamer slightly more popular than the rest there are a lot of others from decent to good to great depending on the time you browse twitch and how far down you scroll

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 16:21:15 2017 No.3181808

>>3181795
They're saying they don't find even your final rendering of hair appealing. You're aping Murata's overall style, but he doesn't actually drawing strands of hair--he only implies their directional movement.

Sakamoto Shinichi and Takehiko Inoue have much more realistic and defined approaches to hair, but they still economize their line and value usage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 16:25:05 2017 No.3181813 >>3181808 >You're aping Murata's overall style Hardly actually. Besides when I do OPM characters , I don't take much references from his style.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 16:29:17 2017 No.3181820

>>3181813
>>3181808
Fuck, I'm stupid. I totally misread the thread chain and that the anon was calling your hair out. I'm sort of bothered by your approach to hair, but your style is soft overall so it's a nice contrast. Sorry for the unnecessary critique.

Anyway, do you really think so? I see a lot of Murata's influence on your style. I think maybe >>3181766 is the furthest I've seen (and also my favorite of your posts so far), but I still get his vibes in your other drawings.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 16:40:06 2017 No.3181830
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>>3181820
Wouldn't say those are necessarily Murata influences (depends of what parts you're thinking), I have a lot of other references, I'm far from trying to "ape" his style, again, I mostly just use him as reference when drawing OPM characters.

For the hair, lines and shading/rendering in general, I'd say Pigeon666 is my main reference, I'm learning a lot from her works.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 17:00:15 2017 No.3181859

>>3181418
>Stop coloring and work on your anatomical structure. You lack an understanding of planes so your shading comes across as random and flat.
Maybe, I don't think its anatomy that I'm actually lacking though I think its probably incorrect use of value or rather not knowing when enough is enough or when its too much. Either way thanks for taking your time to crit my work.

Does any one, have any suggestions as to the type of studies I should be doing to improve? Like should I be hitting the value studies to dial in better 3d anatomical representation?

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 17:27:56 2017 No.3181890
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>>3179213
How much time should pic related realistically take me?
is it ok if it takes me like 10 hours? I'm always over worried with details and trying to think how translatable it will be to 3d once I'm finished. But then I look at blizzard artbooks and their designs sometimes are a bit lose yet sooo much better.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 17:45:56 2017 No.3181908
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Is this the place to post this?
If so, I'd appreciate some help

- Change the lips in thinner more anime like lips or keep these?
- How are the lines (did this in SAI)
- Boobs need adjusting?
- Add abdominal muscles or not (just some random scribbles in pic related)
- Eyes need adjusting?
Any other things that went unnoticed is fine too.

I also wanted to color it in PS, any suggestions or tutorials on how to color?

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 17:52:57 2017 No.3181919

>>3181890
The shorter the better, but if it helps you feel better about it: I took a whole year to finish a commission once, and my finished paintings take at the very least a week. You can't get worse than this one anon, man. Here's an advice, if you're going to spend hours worried over something on your painting, let it be the big stuff, worrying over details will murder you and your work. I'm not practicing what I preach but I definitely should, and you should too.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 17:56:46 2017 No.3181921

>>3181908
I'm sorry anon, changing the lips won't save this thing. Go practice for a few more months before trying to draw something that should be appealing enough to make caulifags all over /a/ hard as diamond, right now you're probably going to make them jump off a window. None of this is appealing. Go to the >>/beg/ thread and train for a while, I know you can do it man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 18:00:17 2017 No.3181926 File: 515 KB, 767x769, dooduls.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] went for a quick doodle and ended up with this. What kind of style does this shit even fall into?

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 18:01:03 2017 No.3181927
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Anyone know how to do this ink-and-wash digitally?

I've already tried CC 2018 watercolor brushes and Expresii. If anyone knows how to do something that a traditional can do in one stroke as opposed to many strokes in these other programs I've tried, would be great.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 18:01:20 2017 No.3181929 >>3181921 I am a beginner and thought this character could be used as stepping stones. I thought /beg/ didn't accept anime style drawings?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 18:03:46 2017 No.3181930 >>3181927 just search the internet for some watercolor brushes for photoshop.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 18:05:27 2017 No.3181934 >>3181005 Dude be honest with yourself. The audience are gay men who are closeted. They will like it the more boy like it is. Make it a softer boy but a boy. Keep the corners sharper but the straighter lines on a boy you can add more curves.

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 18:13:28 2017 No.3181946

>>3181929
You don't have to post this on /beg/, you have to go to /beg/ or to the sticky and learn how to draw well. Draw anime on your sketchbook while you're not studying, that way you'll improve in both fields, but don't try getting anything significant out of posting them here yet because there's just too many angles from where you could be criticized.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 18:57:04 2017 No.3181978 >>3181926 Is that a penis?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 19:22:06 2017 No.3182009 >>3181110 Hey anon, could I ask what resources you used to learn how to draw clothing folds?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 19:56:53 2017 No.3182049 >>3181908 looks good man, you have a great style, keep at it

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 20:24:08 2017 No.3182072

>>3181224
>>3181622
your drawing falls into a weird little uncanny valley of skill where looking at each individual part it seems to be perfectly fine and competently drawn/inked, but the whole seems to come off a little bit amateurish, and im not trying to knock the drawing. What that does mean though is it makes it really hard to spot specific things that are wrong with it. That being said I'll try to point out what I can.

At the moment she looks like a posed doll without any weight. for example, her thumb is in her pocket, but no weight is being applied. Try sticking your thumbs in your pockets like that and notice how when relaxed the elbows go back, not out, and the pocket is pressed tight against that part of your palm between your thumbs and fingers. this also distorts the fabric and will pull the pants down a bit in that direction. Following this logic, while its perfectly possible to hold that pose with your legs, I you need to think about either pushing it (spread the legs even wider and fully commit to a cartoonish pose), or opting for something that better conveys her weight. Since her left hip is already raised a bit higher and she’s resting her hand on it, I think you could bring her left leg in a bit more and make it the load bearing one, which will make the overall pose more casual.

Other than that, just study fabric and folds for the clothing. Its not bad but but it looks almost placeholder, like you know there should be wrinkles there, but not how they should look, so you put lines in where they should be but there’s no real form to them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 20:56:35 2017 No.3182088 >>3182072 Thanks for the thoughtful critique, I sincerely appreciate it

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 21:05:49 2017 No.3182095 File: 129 KB, 1344x1920, fmn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3182049 Thanks alot man, I did some adjusting after a couple of tips

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 21:41:15 2017 No.3182117 >>3181890 take as long as you need to make it look good. Speed comes with familiarity and confidence, and the only way you can be either of those things is by doing it right

Anonymous Sun Oct 22 22:19:33 2017 No.3182145
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>>3182095
I'm not very familiar with defined abdominals, so ignore that part of my redline. Adam Hughes or any comic book artists leaning towards body builder physique stylized women would make a great reference.

Also your arms might be a little short, but your proportions are so stylized I'm not sure how to approach it.

Forgot to add, but part of the pectorals are attached to the deltoid and form part of the "bowl" of the armpit. Here's a Hampton diagram.
>https://i.pinimg.com/originals/db/91/5d/db915d7b10aa613231f5988774e56640.jpg

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 23:03:41 2017 No.3182177 >>3182145 Oh man i dont mean to be annoying but do you think you could redline >>3181380 Im going to study those images you linked as well when i get home from work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 22 23:34:32 2017 No.3182194 >>3182145 I don't think you're quite ready to redline, lad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 00:22:33 2017 No.3182220 >>3182194 As long as you're better than the person you're redlining then you are ready, retard. This is /ic/, when you limit the redlines to only people of high skill level you'll barely get any.

Anonymous Mon Oct 23 00:35:12 2017 No.3182238

>>3181541
Lots of issues I'll suggest working on your head construction and gesture. You need to pay attention to the rhythmic flows of both the body and cloth. Look into Michael Hampton: Gesture section
>>3181560
It's okay. I'm not really seeing any glaring issues. In the middle picture, the way you drew the mouth lacks structure. You made the rest of the face more detailed but you drew the mouth as a simple curve. The neck seems a bit huge and the cloth seems unnatural especially around the shoulder area. I would suggest to make sure your body anatomy is correct before adding the cloth.
>>3181596
Pretty good. The right hand seems flat so I'd suggest thinking about the structure there. The way you drew the cloth around his left arm seems unnatural. Like on one side you drew the jack in a way that suggests it's somewhat baggy but on the otherside you drew it in such a way that suggests it's tight.
>>318209
This drawing needs a lot of work. No point in picking out certain elements that are wrong because everything is wrong. I would suggest getting Michael Hamptons book and working on it from front to back.

Same guy. I had more time so I was more "specific" with the critiques.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 00:49:11 2017 No.3182247 File: 67 KB, 267x300, image (2).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Don't know where else to put this, so here we go. Throw some critiques my way.

Anonymous Mon Oct 23 01:05:49 2017 No.3182263
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>>3182238
I'm the Trunks guy, thank you for pointing that out! As I sketched I had those issues in mind already though (particularly the hand, as it was just a very gestural base sketch), but I hope I made a better job in my clean-up here, how is it looking now?

Folds and hands, man. I should go study some Leyendecker stuff after I'm done with this, that's a guy who was excellent at both right there. Some more references are welcomed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 01:07:27 2017 No.3182264 >>3182247 Did you draw this with your dick?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 01:12:27 2017 No.3182268 >>3182263 >that visible gum line So satisfying. Looking great. Love the roundness you can feel from his collar and cuff, as well as the outlined wrinkles. The righthand foot is looking pretty flat though, and doesn't feel like it's meeting his ankle.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 01:22:20 2017 No.3182273 >>3182263 Holy shit, You're so damn good. Got a blog?

Anonymous Mon Oct 23 01:31:32 2017 No.3182277

>>3182268
>>that visible gum line
>So satisfying.
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

>righthand foot is looking pretty flat
Crap you're right, that one I definitely overlooked, I'll work on it.

>>3182273
Thanks! I have, kind of. I don't know what kids use these days but I'm suppossed to be uploading stuff here:
https://www.artstation.com/enzofernandez
Though it's still looking pretty empty.
Then there's my DA, and while it's mostly full of stuff I did when I was ~16 I still upload there too:
pkblitz.deviantart.com

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 07:01:33 2017 No.3182465 >>3182220 >getting this butthurt lol, you must be new

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 07:07:56 2017 No.3182469 >>3182263 fix the left foot

Anonymous Mon Oct 23 09:02:16 2017 No.3182522

>>3180659
>>3181110
what software and brushes do you guys use? huge noob (i'm the guy who's doing the otto von bismarck) who just grabbed his first tablet, and is currently drawing with default brushes on krita art.
advice? love how smoothly you're able to sketch, but I'm unable to achieve this

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 10:37:13 2017 No.3182596 File: 2.02 MB, 2089x2925, 153.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Oct 23 14:13:49 2017 No.3182782
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>>3182145
Hey man, great tips, made some adjustments. But I can't for the life of me get the eyes, lips and face shape right.
I left out the dip in the iliac crest tho

Also I see a lot of artist work with that pencil tool, which one is it and what are the settings?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 15:16:43 2017 No.3182843 File: 56 KB, 480x688, 5d394b22de622e7836f74728e389ce30.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I get this kind of lines?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 15:29:47 2017 No.3182851 File: 3.20 MB, 1542x1813, Cat Girl3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] painting from yesterday, ready for harsh constructive criticism

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 15:38:56 2017 No.3182857 >>3182851 colors are marvelous but it looks muddily blended. Also the face looks twist, mirror it and you'll see what I mean.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 15:49:53 2017 No.3182866 >>3182857 thanks, and yeah I definitely see the flaws after flipping it, as well as the blending especially in the forehead area. I'll be keeping that in mind.

Anonymous Mon Oct 23 16:46:12 2017 No.3182975

>>3182009
nothing specific comes to mind but i remember looking at a bunch of clothing fold tutorials when i was first starting out.
some good tips to remember:
- take note of the areas on the body where folds occur more often (e.g. armpits, crotch, joints)
- gravity affects clothing
- keep it simple, overdoing clothing folds can end up hurting your sense of form instead of helping it, especially if it looks like you are placing lines at random.

>>3182522
i use a pencil brush on photoshop; it's not my favourite but it does the job. if you're new to a tablet, try practicing strokes first so you can get good line control for cleaner lines!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 16:48:07 2017 No.3182977 >>3182843 Mileage

>>	NoseBro Mon Oct 23 17:01:03 2017 No.3183000 >>3182851 left eye is fleeing a bit. nose bottom plane is good but everything immediately disappears above it.

>>	NoseBro Mon Oct 23 17:03:46 2017 No.3183003 >>3182465 youre the retard.

Anonymous Mon Oct 23 17:04:59 2017 No.3183005

>>3183000
nice trips

i noticed that left eye when flipping it too, and the nose area is a bit off putting isn't it, I suppose that goes hand in hand with what >>3182857 mentioned about the muddy blending. It seems like the main problem areas is not flipping as much as well as not making things read well enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 17:47:34 2017 No.3183078 >>3183003 pretty ironic coming from the shitposting master

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 17:49:42 2017 No.3183083 >>3182596 this is sick

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 17:57:32 2017 No.3183101 File: 410 KB, 1294x1000, ;P.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] attack me personally

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 18:00:56 2017 No.3183106 >>3183101 ad hominem !

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 18:06:03 2017 No.3183116 File: 406 KB, 966x1050, nerobasta l wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wip.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 18:09:35 2017 No.3183120 >>3183101 How do I get as good as you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 18:11:05 2017 No.3183125 >>3183083 thanks i guess?

puts Mon Oct 23 18:17:00 2017 No.3183134

>>3183101
You know, it's okay to have a tiny penis. As long it's not a microdick, it shouldn't matter much. It's not like a girl's going to see it anyways. You clearly don't go outside enough to know what a real human being looks like, much less a girl.

I can tell you are the type of person who craves validation and wants desperately to be liked by everyone. I can see it in your "choice" of colors. Of course, it's clear that you didn't even deliberately choose your colors. You're just winging it like you're winging your life.
How did that turn out for you?
Oh yeah,

your mom hates you even more now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 18:47:38 2017 No.3183160 >>3183101 left leg too big, thicc and long. Take a step back in how much colors you use.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 20:50:18 2017 No.3183269 File: 620 KB, 1440x1440, IMG_20171022_203209_350.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I did a collaborated piece with my artist friend on mixed media paper.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 21:15:12 2017 No.3183293 >>3183101 Runescape sucks

Anonymous Mon Oct 23 21:25:35 2017 No.3183300

>>3183101
Its nice, but as a whole the piece isnt cohesive, I cant tell where the light source is and the colour scheme feels messy. It also lacks any movement, her posture just seems too static.
Did any of this make sense? Probably not. Anyway keep it up, I like the shading on the breast plate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 21:35:07 2017 No.3183306 File: 1.16 MB, 2000x3069, noticethethingsidont.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tell me what I'm doing wrong. (besides being a weeb).

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 21:38:08 2017 No.3183307 >>3183306 looks great man, in b4 some krugtards who don't understand perspective and style cry about the face

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 21:44:02 2017 No.3183312 File: 41 KB, 466x466, tumblr_ofhw5j5GfJ1t2msp6o1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3183307 Thanks man. I really do need some fuck-me-up critique though. This is a big comm and I want the guy happy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 21:48:19 2017 No.3183315 >>3183306 Do you take disciples to mentor?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 22:15:11 2017 No.3183337 File: 20 KB, 250x229, b183ka.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3183315 what..

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 22:19:51 2017 No.3183340 >>3183306 I would suggest making the right eye (her left eye) a little smaller. I know its in perspective but it shouldn't be skewed that much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 22:24:55 2017 No.3183344 >>3183340 thank you thank you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 22:33:58 2017 No.3183350 >>3183337 Take me under you and teach me senpai

Anonymous Mon Oct 23 22:42:36 2017 No.3183353

>>3183306
I think the further eye is too small or the closer eye is too big. Also the spikes around her pauldrons have some weird perspective going on. And they don't look like they're the same size or going straight in a ring around the thing, they look like they're at different heights.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 23:14:31 2017 No.3183387 >>3183353 Yeah, I see what you mean. The spikes are tricky for me, got any tips or guides?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 23 23:25:47 2017 No.3183405 >>3181890 Please link your blog or something

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 00:20:25 2017 No.3183460 File: 133 KB, 719x960, 4erdtgf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >finally good enough to produce decent work relatively quickly >art is still slightly off At least I can live with the mistakes now and actually produce shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 00:24:42 2017 No.3183464 >>3183460 I think it's good. Off, sure, but if you keep working to improve that isn't really a problem, right? If it makes you feel any better some of your art is in my inspiration folder (´・ω・`) It's nice to see you again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 00:25:11 2017 No.3183465 >>3183460 Congratulations anon. You've done what most people strive for in their minds.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 00:45:33 2017 No.3183497 File: 55 KB, 564x860, 20289952_870450889771826_1248675314_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3183464 Thanks mango Sure is weird running into the same guy from the old days

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 00:49:09 2017 No.3183506 >>3183460 How did you got here and how long it took

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 01:00:31 2017 No.3183524 File: 546 KB, 945x903, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue Oct 24 01:01:25 2017 No.3183526

>>3183506
Well I'm 22, spent the years from 6th to 9th grade trying to become a human photocopier, was always interested in ink. got burned out on it and only drew shitty animu doodles for fun until the last couple years, and even now I don't really do deliberate studies, so recent progress has been slower I suppose. I estimate at the rate of me not giving a shit it'll take 2 or 3 more years before my art is consistently not awkward

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 01:03:40 2017 No.3183528 >>3183524 Nice lines on the face but that torso is looking like those worm aliens from Men in Black.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 01:05:24 2017 No.3183532 >>3183524 I recognize that plant

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 01:05:50 2017 No.3183534 >>3183524 wow this fucking SUCKS!!! worst artist ever! i can tell he's not anyone working in the industry, the lines are all wobbly and her torso isn't anatomically correct

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 01:14:51 2017 No.3183541 File: 68 KB, 720x960, FB_IMG_1508822027750.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Been trying to relearn Jim lee

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 01:14:57 2017 No.3183542 >>3183534 >>3183532 >>3183528 what brush does he use thou

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 01:16:02 2017 No.3183544 >>3183524 Some tangent issues

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 01:19:18 2017 No.3183545 >>3182522 I tried manga studio and really like the watercolor brush and pens over Photoshop

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 01:23:53 2017 No.3183548 >>3183524 huh Leon I like it...

Anonymous Tue Oct 24 01:31:10 2017 No.3183552

>>3183306
The hands look incredible. Like legit teach me.

But then the face... like yes it's the alternative style thread but unless you are deliberately going for a style where her eye is literally sliding off to be next to her ear....

I'd say squeeze the eye on the right side a bit more to the left. also her head seems flat af behind her skull. also the hips look broken. the dress makes it hard to know what you were trying to go for but it just looks wrong.

But again those hands are fabulous af.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 03:04:54 2017 No.3183640 File: 503 KB, 752x780, c6nJiej[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Praying that I don't fuck this up while polishing it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 03:43:42 2017 No.3183669 >>3182596 Give me give me blog

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 07:17:32 2017 No.3183764 >>3183534 this is bait >>3183524 why did you post 0033's work here? at least post some of his better sketches or tutorials

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 07:23:19 2017 No.3183767 How do I draw large anime tits

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 07:52:12 2017 No.3183781 File: 177 KB, 790x1000, Characters.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3179213

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 09:44:45 2017 No.3183829 >>3183767 Just how you draw large real life tits.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 10:35:11 2017 No.3183856 >>3183669 https://augcasarin.tumblr.com/

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 11:11:23 2017 No.3183867 >>3183764 Wow, I didn't even notice the Pixiv album number on it. Is someone just pissed whenever a good drawing gets posted here and gets crit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 11:28:37 2017 No.3183881 >>3183640 You never fuck anything up by rendering it, you just reveal mistakes that were hidden by the muddiness before

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 11:37:58 2017 No.3183886 >>3183867 Doubt he's pissed, but why are you trying to pass that shit off here as your own lmao?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 11:45:42 2017 No.3183890 >>3183881 Never thought of it that way, pretty neat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 12:25:35 2017 No.3183906 File: 108 KB, 490x776, homu wip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 13:17:17 2017 No.3183988 File: 206 KB, 967x894, o.o.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 15:32:25 2017 No.3184088 File: 535 KB, 1541x1000, islandsketches.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 15:44:00 2017 No.3184107 File: 908 KB, 1808x1209, BlackWhiteThumbnails.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3181919 >>3182117 Thanks guys, gotta learn some patience. >>3183405 My blog is soo dead.

Anonymous Tue Oct 24 15:47:35 2017 No.3184113
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Been doing some commission work for a furfag friend, and I've run into some problems.
>I don't know how to into lineart/going beyond a sketch in general
>how the fuck does hair work
Could I get some critique?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 15:49:12 2017 No.3184117 >>3183906 >>3183988 Blog?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 16:13:25 2017 No.3184139 >>3184117 It's two different people I drew homura and don't have a blog

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 16:16:52 2017 No.3184141 >>3184139 Props to you! I like it, hope to see more from you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 16:28:57 2017 No.3184154 >>3184113 Hair doesn't work on furry shit. it just doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 16:40:11 2017 No.3184169 File: 193 KB, 593x576, wipwip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3184154 It really doesn't. All I'm used to drawing is anime garbage, and he enjoys hair on his furshit so here we are. Fixing the ears and the hair seems to help a little.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 16:49:08 2017 No.3184188 >>3184141 Thanks

Anonymous Tue Oct 24 17:14:44 2017 No.3184217
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>>3184113
You're doing fine when it comes to drawing hair on anthro. It doesn't look natural, of course, but that's just how it works. Keep in mind the bar is lower for furries so you can get away with a bit of crap.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 17:20:00 2017 No.3184221 >>3184217 Thanks. Mostly trying to use the scene as a springboard into doing commissions/making a name for myself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 17:31:29 2017 No.3184233 >>3184107 Do you use a multiply layer when you photobash in the black and white phase?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 17:37:06 2017 No.3184242 new thread >>3184241

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 24 17:38:31 2017 No.3184245 >>3184117 i'm the one who drew the girl w/ the bunny hood https://ivry1.tumblr.com/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 00:45:56 2017 No.3184645 >>3179219 Idk what this retard want from you anon, this is really nice piece. Keep working.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 00:50:00 2017 No.3184649 >>3180169 You consider this guys art as beg? Kinda funny. Im drawing for 4 years and working in industry and I can tell you that this pieces are not /beg/ faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 01:39:52 2017 No.3184686 >>3184107 I'd at least want to have it in case you update it ..anything please

Anonymous Wed Oct 25 02:01:52 2017 No.3184709
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>>3183306
>>3183340
>>3183353
>>3183552
Here's an update I did. I moved the eyes and changed both their sizes. Then I attempted to redo the spikes, but those things are hell. Also added more details.

If you have more critique, feel free to shit on me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 02:08:33 2017 No.3184712 >>3184709 Anon, what do you use for the lineart?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 02:14:40 2017 No.3184716 >>3184712 I use SAI for everything. And it's the normal ink tool at 1-0.7 pixel width and stability at s-4 - s-5.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 02:24:32 2017 No.3184723 >>3184716 Thankyou anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 14:09:46 2017 No.3185113 File: 92 KB, 1630x1000, notfast.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 25 14:11:54 2017 No.3185116 >>3185113 >not even posting in the right thread Yev you idiot

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 26 13:02:25 2017 No.3186144 File: 179 KB, 647x733, e76df6115a789f294726d97f3e6b91c7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to learn how to shade with gray markes but where do I start? What is a good resource

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