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3173292 No.3173292 [Reply] [Original]

Them's fighting words, /ic/.

>> No.3173295

haha

>> No.3173305

He's right about the board though. I wonder why I still come here, but, you know. You're here forever.

>> No.3173312

People on other boards are so kind to each other. What the hell. Feels weird

>> No.3173322

>>3173312
Hell no.

/r9k/ is a board that hates it self, makes fun of itself, creates no friends and also hates normies and outsiders.

/pol/ hates everyone and treats everyone like shit.

/b/ is cancer I don't have to explain.

/a/ is one of the most aggressive boards with die-hard opinionated faggots who will rip you apart for minimal stuff.

/fit/ is a board about self-determination, exercise, and made to inspire true change in your life and health.. except they care more about pickup, genetics and height than actual fitness and dedication

I see some friendly people on /ic/ I don't see anywhere else on 4chan, except /sp. But in terms of actual drawing, /i/ is actually more active and supportive, they just don't have Loomis by their side.

>> No.3173326

>>>/biz/3887420

>> No.3173330

>>3173322
must be one of those strange incidents where people are friendly and happy. can't imagine it happens very often

>> No.3173334
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>>3173322
>/pol/ hates everyone and treats everyone like shit.

You've clearly never went to /pol/

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>>3173334
The guy who made pic related did. They can go fuck themselves.

>> No.3173353

>>3173330
Happens every now and then.

>>3173334
>pol is nice guy meme

I browsed /pol/ for like 5 years faggot, got sick of it. Realized people in there are actually just actual autistic hateful spergs. Most of the board celebrates any sort of tragedy that happens to non-white people, legitimately.

You are a clealry a newfag if you didn't realize that yet, but you will eventually, or turn into a hateful basement dwelling retard yourself. Or do you already believe jews are akshtually evil?

>> No.3173354

>>3173322
On /a/, every fandoms/topic has a set culture and baseline knowledge you need to know and as long as you know what the fuck you're talking about you'll receive a warm welcome.

In contrast, some boards are caustic and toxic no matter what you post.

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>>3173346
It warms my heart knowing he's still drawing and slowly improving

>> No.3173361

>>3173346
Yeah this is pretty much it. Fuck the cocksuckers. It's a pity the nigger mods keep listening to them and ban things they dont like essentially turning the whole site to stormfront.

>> No.3173362

>>3173353
It took you 5 years? But yeah holy shit /pol/ is just autistic. I especially liked it how they'd jerk off saying "based :D" whenever a nationalist punches a protester but when a member of anti-fa punches someone they just go "antifa are the real fascists" or some autistic shit.

Another good one is when people worship Hitler and violently lash on Islam in the same thread - the irony is lost.

The 'neo-pol' meme though is probably the worst. I am not fucking joking when I say /pol/acks drove me left.

>> No.3173367

>>3173353
>abloo bloo bloo
>muh evil spoopy hateful racist sexist nazi board!

/pol/ basically wants the best out of humanity and tells it the way it is regarding various kinds of people who have great influence and have historically caused more problems by degrading other groups of people with degeneracy and keep them blinded with anger hence their control over others.

If you want to witness a sea of humanity for what it really is, there is none other than /pol/ and it is magnificent.

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>>3173367
>/pol/
>sea of humanity
Sea of underage edgelords and r/the_donald users maybe

>> No.3173375

>>3173367
humanity is being nice to each other. Not sperging like a little pretentious bitch at the sight of the things you dont like.

>> No.3173380

>>3173375
that's like all of /ic/ you just described though.

>> No.3173386

>>3173380
One is sperging about your skill in a hobby
and the other is sperging out about people because they look different.

>> No.3173389

>>3173386
sperging out is sperging out

>> No.3173390

>>3173330
I'm 90% sure that it is just a handful of people that shit up threads. Same for the rest of the board. It takes only a bad apple to ruin the whole basket.

>> No.3173393

>>3173367
god damn you made me laugh man, thanks

can't you see you didn't address anything I said?

>muh evul nazi blhablabla

Is that how you respond to anyone that dislikes your beloved /pol/? You're putting a board on a pedestal. I see shit I call it for what it is, shit. Are you afraid to respond to me? Do you actually believe jews are evil/subhuman?

Sea of humanity? You wanna know about the world? Then fucking travel, live in other countries and cultures. It's funny how many people in /pol/ admit they've never even been to a thirld world or developping country (obvious fear). I've lived in 8 different countries, rich and poor, I've had white gf, black gf, latina gf. I have made friends from all races and places. That's how I get to know the world and how other races/ethnicities really are. Not from a fucking imageboard who only posts the best of white people and worst of other races to tunnel-vision basement dwelling retards like you into believing the oldest meme, /pol/ is always right. No, /pol/ is not always right, not even often, they just bring it to light when they are, and shut the fuck up when they aren't.

>>3173362
I was actually pretty right-winged too, and had the same happen to me. The contrast of what I've read and seen in /pol/ to what I experienced in real life was far too great. I'd say the board turned worse since the last few years, though. Around Ron Paul time it was actually majority libertarian, now it's actually majority fascists, or at least edgy kids who think they are fascists and can't comprehend what being under fascism actually entails.

>> No.3173397

>>3173390
Or maybe you're just in a bucket full of snibbenings.

>> No.3173400

>>3173375
/pol/ is so fucking pathetic lel

>> No.3173407

>>3173354
i used to frequent /a/, but everyone called my waifu shit and um, some other word i erased from my consciousness to preserve my sanity.
some of them are nice people, but the amount of stupid meme parrots outweighs them.

>> No.3173408

>>3173354
Well I was talking about those guys who get extremely infuriated when arguing about small things, like if O MY RUBBER NEN is an asspull or not, etc. Not so much about culture, I know to lurk before I start posting.

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>>3173367
>/pol/ basically wants the best out of humanity
This has to be the most laughable comment I've ever seen about that cesspool. You can't be serious

>> No.3173415

>>3173393
Or you could witness different people from all over the world of all race and creed speak their thoughts and minds in its purest form and nature all conveniently located in one board. That's the beautiful part about /pol/ and I feel sorry that after five years you've failed to see that.

>> No.3173416

>>3173397
well it takes only a few dedicated crabs to pull you down

>> No.3173420

>>3173415
That's the beauty about 4chan, actually. /pol/ is just where the edgy kids hang out.

>> No.3173421
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I am said artist. And you guys are kind of proving my point. None of you are posting your own work, let alone are capable of redlining mine. And even if you did post work, i guarantee most of you are either hyper realistic portrait drawers or porn artists who work on one pose a week. And now the discussion is circklejerking about how the other boards are shit; still not posting your own work.

But i guess i have to thank you /ic/. I will screencap this thread, and ill be back in a year with some badass before and after meme, and all the encouraging (You)'s will be mine.

Since this thread is dedicated to me, have another masterpiece. Heres my blog: http://shi-tan-nime-comics.blogspot.com/p/home.html I think im gonna scrap the story and change my identity for now. But Ill be back.

>> No.3173424

>>3173407
>>3173408
That's why I mostly stopped browsing /a/ catalog.
Now I just drop into generals that interest me to catch up and discuss updates.
But then the mods banned generals but not really so now every thread is pretty much a stealth general for no fucking reason and it makes finding the good threads hard.

>> No.3173426

>>3173415
That is exactly what /b/ was, and I think the result speak for themselves

>> No.3173427

@3173421
Nobody cares, we're talking about /pol/ now fuck off.

>> No.3173434
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>>3173427
>discussing pol, and not about the why my anatomy is off, why my art doesnt work
>just blogging about how you guys hate pol, and how you pity miku fag, even though hes living a 10x better art career than any of you
epic. still not posting your own work i see

>> No.3173436

>>3173421
Not taking either side in this "discussion", but I'm glad to see there's at least one person who is genuinely enjoying himself drawing

>> No.3173440

>>3173421
Dude, I'll be nice for once. Just leave. You're clearly too thin-skinned and this board has a couple of very nasty crabs. Unless you want a lot of people to call your art shit just let this thread deviate until it dies down, don't put the spotlight on top of your self. Someone IS gonna find you, doxx you and make you miserable if you keep insisting.

>>3173424
Yeah, I agree that new rules/mods on /a/ suck major dick. Why no generals? I wanna talk about OPM, so where can I do it? Can't create an OPM thread on /a/ if we are not waiting for a new chapter or choosing a waifu.. it's fucking retarded.

>> No.3173445

>>3173440
why not create /ag/?
/v/ got their own general board, it's not fair

>> No.3173447

>>3173440
but thats my point. you are trying to pity me, yet you cant redline my work for shit. And if you guys do find me irl, so what? Ill just be more convinced to kill myself.

And why the fuck is it okay, to just go on about discussing how you hate /a/ or /pol/ on a board meant for ART DISCUSSION. Dont you think its ironic, that no one can actually dissect my work and make me a better artist, but instead retort to blogging?

>> No.3173454

>>3173447
are you 15?

>> No.3173461

>>3173447
>don't pity me!!
>I-i.. I'll kill my self!

Anyone can tell you are craving for attention, but this is not the right way to go for it. We are having a spontaneous discussion that is far more interesting than your drawing, I didn't create this thread, I am not obligated to red-line your shit. You are acting like a hysteric crybaby.

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>>3173436
>I'm glad to see there's at least one person who is genuinely enjoying himself drawing

snibbety snab you're not fooling these crabs.

>> No.3173463

>>3173421
>>3173434
>>3173447
Sorry man, but it seems you are just scared of getting out of your comfort zone. A redline isn't going to do any good at this level. You can't make others do the studying that you should do yourself.

If you like drawing like that, fine. But if you think you can just improve by reading manga and not studying a thing, you're going to end up like those who make no progress after 3 years.

>> No.3173467

>>3173454
>strawman argument
Again. None of you can actually redline my work or give proper critique.

Im 19 year old loser. I have no friends cause im weirdo autist, so im border suicidal anyway. I wouldnt be so shit at art if i didnt bother pursuing college. But what can you do.

And it is complete bullshit why this thread is more about /a/ and /pol/, because they literally have nothing to do with art, and more about board drama. This thread is about my art, and this is an ART board, so discuss ART.
>>3173461
you dont even have to redline. I just want to see some of you "critics" art blogs, so i can use it as an example of what to achieve in my work. But im starting to doubt anyone in this thread is even above /beg/ tier.

>> No.3173469

>>3173322
>except they care more about pickup, genetics and height than actual fitness and dedication
Manlets who hit the gym to compensate are almost invariably amongst the worst people on Earth, if only they managed to see that their shitty personality is what drives women away from them they wouldn't have to hit the gym 24/7 to compensate (and still never get laid)

>> No.3173472

>>3173322
/co/ is fucking shit too

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>>3173463
>studying
Fine. Tell me what to study then, and show your work, or an example of artwork or reference that i need to achieve to be good.

I assume you guys think ill drastically improve if i just study (pic) for an hour or two a day.

But then, how do you study backgrounds, reactions in a stylized form, or composition? Those all come from manga.

And dont get me started on story telling. Thats the one i struggle with the most. Just coming up with ideas.

>> No.3173480

>>3173469
So all manlets have shit personality? I mean, I've met one guy who fits your description exactly, but actively making fun of people's height on a board that is meant for self improvement is quite petty. I remember this meme from /fit/ in a post your pic thread, where some guy analyzed his picture, the perspective (probably some d/ick?) and the average height of door-knobs to determine the guy was around 5'4, and he got turned into a meme for it. How many fat/unfit people do you think were just jealous crabs trying to put a man who worked hard down? It'd be the equivalent of /ic/ doxxing and making fun of someone for being color blind. It's really fucking pathetic.

>> No.3173485

>>3173475
>backgrounds come from manga

What's it like to live in a featureless white void?

>> No.3173505

>>3173322
There's a lot of people willing to help here. It's just that some people can't fucking hold back themselves to shitpost. Or the people that can't take a critique.

>> No.3173509

>>3173469
>>3173480
/ic/ is basically this manlet personified https://youtu.be/ha7smLPz2GY

>> No.3173516

>>3173509
There's probably a couple of guys like him around. That vid never fails to make me laugh.

>> No.3173524

>>3173485
Some things are literally unable to get get reference drawing from: specifically, people on a 3-D background plane. Yes, you could try street views and such for reference, but a lot of times the specific angle feels unnatural because said reference is being taken by a camera. So, i do think manga is good resource for studying characters placed on a background.

Also, another problem with your "muh reference" is that /ic/ is literally humanists centrist. I literally had a whole conversation with a famous d/ic/l once about how he told me to study the human body 3 hours a day. And i asked
>shouldnt i be studying scenery, clothing, facial reactions, cars, lamposts, since those can all be featured in a manga?
and his reply was literally
>nope. the human body is the only thing /ic/ cares about, so makes sure you get that 100% down
JUST
>>3173505
>willing to help
Literally. None of you can post your own art blogs or any other art blogs to follow as an example. You guys are so full of fucking shit its unbelievable. And when i do return in a year, i want to see all the fucks in this thread who are pitying me to show me their tumblr or deviantart, so i can know what good art is to them in their wyes.

Its not even about redlining my work, you guys are literally too embarrassed to show off your blogs because you know your art sucks just as much as mine. And to prove my point, i bet my post will either be ignored, or itll be
>durr anon, you just need to study fundamentals and loomis more.
>oh no! I cant post my work! Youre not good enough to see mine. It wouldnt be beneficial at all!

See you fags in 2018

>> No.3173530

>>3173375
Not nice, respectable. Hugboxing is cancer, whether good or bad. Just don't act like a retard/autismo when you don't have a obvious mental condition, and everything will be fine.

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>>3173475
>how do you study backgrounds
Go outside and sketch landscapes and environments. Read Perspective Made Easy and do the exercises
>reactions in a stylized form
Break down the expressions in your favorite manga and aply them to your own works
>Composition
Read Framed Ink. Learn basic compositional rules (rule of thirds, golden rectangle/spiral, etc. ) and apply them to your own works. Do thumbnail composition sketches.

You aren't going to improve unless you actually do the work, and I guarantee all the manga artists you look up to put the effort into studying as well. You'll be surprised how much you can improve from an hour of focused study everyday, which you really clearly aren't doing. Redlining isn't going to help you because you won't learn anything from a redline unless you understand *why* a redline looks the way it does, and you pretty clearly lack an understanding of the basics.
And since you insist on "showing your work," here's some of my recent art. It ain't great by any means, but it's better than the stuff I was putting out before I started cracking down and studying.

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>>3173532
There it is folks, kruger's crab in all its glory.

>> No.3173543

>>3173539
Wow, you really showed him!
Post work.

>> No.3173545

>>3173539
What's Kruger's about it? It's literally the same basic advice you'll see anywhere on /ic/

>> No.3173549

>>3173539
do you realize you are being the crab rigth now

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>>3173532
well thanks anon. i will try to do that. And ill check out the framed ink then.

But i will say this about your work to be fair
Cons
>snake girl is literally floating in the air (ironic since you tell me how important perspective is
>no shadows
>no lineweight whatsoever (specifically check out the finger area of the hand. Many manga artist like to keep the middle parts lines light, but the ends big to indicate the sense of space
>nose is out of perspective
>mouth as no 3d weight at all, loos slaped on
>the ribbon in back of head is as flat as clip art
>boring composition
>boring angle, likes she posing like a pokemon
Pros
>you clearly spent time studying how to reder black hair
>the torso is strangely dynamic with its clothing folds
>nice design on the scales

And i know you hate manga, but i seriously suggest you read tokyo ghoul to get a better idea on how to draw mouths in a 3d way.

>> No.3173554

>>3173524
> the specific angle feels unnatural because said reference is being taken by a camera

This is a bunch of bullshit. Just admit that you study manga instead of real settings because real settings don't have saiyans and catgirls in them.

>> No.3173556

>>3173545
You're completely oblivious to your own flaws you speak of the same basic advice yet you don't follow it yourself and you're talking down do another person ergo Kruger's Crab.

>> No.3173563

>>3173556
They're better than you are. That makes them more credible than you.

>> No.3173565

>>3173556
>>3173539
Mang, I said it my original post. I'm not great, I'm still improving. I think I know a thing or two more than this dude, though, so I'm giving him the advice others have given me. If you think you can better assist this dude, be my guest.

>>3173552
>And i know you hate manga
I never said that, I actually enjoy manga. If you wanna draw anime style, be my guest, but if you want to draw good anime art you need to study more than just anime drawings.

>> No.3173573

>>3173539
You are the exact type of cancerous retard that makes this board shit.

>crab

Crab is when you bring someone down, he is trying to help, that's the opposite.

>kruger

He never claimed to be good, but he is 50 times better than op and probably 100 times better than you considering you're too dumb to even understand what kruger and crab means.

You are the crab randomly throwing shit at some guy posting his work, and you are the kruger who thinks he's better than him when you can't even dare to post your own work in reply. Please suicide.

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>>3173565
>thing more or two than this do.
No its not. You have NO sense of line weight and compared my mouths(pic) to your snek girl. I clearly have a more sense of 3d, like you can feel an opening on a cylinder. Yours feels like you made sure to have a 3d loomis head, but then just painted on a face.
>>3173554
Okay hot ship. Find me a reference image thats similar to this
https://a.pomf.cat/kdmjnf.jpg
>>3173565
but you clearly resent studying it in anyway. You have some sort of trigger that goes
>MANGA!?!
>NOPE NOPE NOPE, THEY ALL LEARNED FROM LOOMIS SO I MUST STUDY HIM ONLY
Which is why im telling you to just reading tokyo ghoul to get a better sense of mouths.

>> No.3173591

>>3173573
>Crab is when you bring someone down, he is trying to help, that's the opposite.

>you pretty clearly lack an understanding of the basics, but I'm just trying to help bro! Let me regurgitate shit I heard from a parrot on /ic/ and repeat it again like a broken record even though it doesn't reflect my work :^)

>He never claimed to be good

>you're going to end up like those who make no progress after 3 years o-oh but don't get me wrong bro I'm not implying that I'm any good I'm just a humble and friendly and sincere Anon trying to help you :^)

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>he draws background when he could just make pictures and edit them in photoshop
Asano is ayylmaoing at all of you

>> No.3173594

>>3173585
I felt a little bad for you for a while, but I take everything back. This is Dunning Kruger in full effect.

>> No.3173596

>>3173585
Using that shitty face that doesn't even wrap around the skull and copied mouth symbol as an argument that you have a better understanding of 3-D than the snake poster.
Jesus christ
Then you're comparing lineweight of your digital shit to fucking pen on paper (which still has better lineweight than you).
Holy shit you're delusional

>> No.3173600

>>3173596
Just so you know that's not the same person you've been replying he's just some random butting in pretending to be retarded.

>> No.3173605

>>3173600
That was my first post in the comment chain anyway. Oh well.

>> No.3173611

>>3173591
His work is not pro but it's not bad. If you are gonna say it's shit post yours crustacean.

>> No.3173612

>>3173585
>Find me a reference image thats similar to this

Would it kill you to leave your room and look at a house?

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>>3173594
>>3173596
You are literally doing dunning krueger effect right now. just compare faces. You guys literally have a warp sense of 3d.
>better line weight
Really. Do you even see your hand? Its literally one uniform line. I mean, i can take my face might be off. And i can take i skipped some forms on my fingers. But your hands seriously have no depth. Seriously: READ MANGA so you can know how to simplify the cracks of a hand.

The mouth is literally being looked at the bottom on mine which is indicated by the teeths being shown and its curving. I guess what you mean by it not being wrapped around skull is that the face is in crunched enough or too much is seen.

Anyway, ill study more "realism" and check out that ink book and i thank you for that info. But call me butt hurt, but i do see a problem with you calling my art 50x (literally 50000% increase) shit than yours and diregarding my rec to read some manga to get better at drawing hands and mouths, just to boost your ego to anons insulting you as well.

>>3173593
this is true. but were not professional and dont have a deadline to meet.

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How much you wanna bet OP is the same guy who made the post in his screenshot?

>> No.3173618

>>3173615
Probably.
>>3173614
It was just a troll all along. We all got bamboozled.

>> No.3173619

>>3173615
It wasnt. I was just gonna close the thread and think nothing of it till the nico nico poster came.

In fact, i think youre the OP.

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>>3173615
>>3173618
>>3173619

>> No.3173627

>>3173619
I think we should break his nico nico kneecaps!

>> No.3173629

Yeah this guys probably a troll. No talent, deluded as fuck, nobody's this dumb unless if he's a /pol/ shitter

>> No.3173631

>>3173629
I love it when someone in some way shape or form blames it on being an elaborate /pol/ conspiracy when it's really the same faggots at each others throats.

>> No.3173632

>>3173629
post your work

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>>3173632
I realize it needs some work but I had fun drawing it and learned a lot in the process

>> No.3173640

>>3173631
Only the pewdiepie cocksuckers have this problem of being so high up they think they're the best. Zero humility, deluded to think he has no weakness, everything he makes is pure gold, always blaming someone else when criticized. This guy reeks of one but I'm gonna think positive and think he's just a troll all along.

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>>3173635
well, this i can accept giving me critique and saying im 50000% shittier than hypocrite snek poster. This is what everyone should have been doing in this thread: actually posting artwork to look up to instead of a giant dick measuring contest.
>>3173639
again, typical ic move.
>>3173640
i do think i have weaknesses. And ill try to study from realism more if it really can benefit my work. But youre just some shitter who'll automatically shut down anything i say to not hurt your own ego and you hate thinking.
>humility
>deluded
nice buzzwords
>thinks everything he makes is gold
now this is just projecting.

Thanks for ruining my sunday faggots. Literally closing tab now

>> No.3173655

>>3173362
To be fair, Anti-Fa is, by definition, fascist. Whether fascism is necessary to destroy fascism is an argument in philosophy and practicality, but that discussion isn't happening.

>> No.3173656

>>3173653
I hope you realize that is not his work and it is off some random booru or nya site. Oh and read the sticky.

>> No.3173670

>>3173656
it's my work.

>> No.3173675

>>3173447
So you're just attention whoring. Got it.

>> No.3173680

I am back here to ask a question after two months of abandoning /ic/

and yes I feel no inclination to come back

I still remember how I was back in my shitposting height and I have no intention of becoming that person again

It's not like I draw any more either. That's the myth. You want me to trick you into thinking that abandoning 4chan will make you into a better artist? Nah. But I will tell you it will make you into a better human being. That sounds even further of a stretch? Well no, because if you are really embedded into 4chan posting, every day and night, then you are nothing short of addicted. Sure it's not a physical addiction like heroin, but you are using 4chan to fill in for something vital that can't be replaced, which is real world bonds. And all the blame doesn't lie with 4chan of course, but if you are prone to just mindlessly shitposting, you are likely doing other addictive behaviors too, perhaps indulging in too much junk food like me? Or maybe you are well off the deep end and just doing hard drugs too.

And also

I think the one thing people have trouble swallowing on this board is that most of you are extremely stupid

Just because you are an artist surrounded by fellow artist doesnt mean you found your company of geniuses. You are self proclaimed artists of the new age, at best you are detached draftsmen looking to slog for disney. In what way does that resemble a society of intellectuals?

>> No.3173683

>>3173680
Please post your work, I am being sincere here I really really really want to know what kind of person is behind this post right here, please do post your work sir.

>> No.3173713

>>3173312
People on other boards are always nice to drawfags but no one else.

>> No.3173738
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3173738

lmao. im just gonna draw more comics cause its fun. Screw you d/ic/ks. ill just get better through mileage.

I just have too much of an ego to lose an argument sometimes.

>> No.3173762
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3173762

>>3173738
So you really want to draw out of spite for /ic/? Ok champ, I'll tell you exactly what you need to do. Start drawing lolicon. But don't stop there, get really good and I mean Alphonse/Range Murata good. That will not only cause a board wide bout of autism but at the same time bruise egos, hurt fee-fee's, the whole 9 yards.

You wanted to learn what the kryptonite for /ic/ was, well here it is >>3165666
Do you have what it takes to be the next White Datura? I believe in you, you can do it.

>> No.3173763

>>3173762
One more thing I forgot and this is the critical part, once you are a renowned artist and have your fundamentals buckled down start redlining other Anons and make sure use the color Teal. Don't forget to use Teal.

>> No.3173773
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3173773

>>3173762
>>3173763
meh. i just unironically believe in the style meme anyway. i have a major and career, so i wont be starving arts like dobson. And hell, if i just keep reading as much manga as possible, draw every day day, and focus on my fundies, maybe i really have some sort of style one day that people can appreciate and not criticize. Hell, my biggest inspirations are unironically ZUN and Ryukishi, so i just might be on the right track.

>> No.3173808

>>3173680
>which is real world bonds
Lmfao, this shit is a meme. I've tried the normie life for almost 7 years, "bonding" with several different groups of people and one group in particular.

As you get older everyone drifts away, it's basic mathematics: time is finite, and responsibilities grow every year while the amount of time you have left on this earth diminishes every second. There's only you, and if you're lucky, your family. The only person that will never abandon you is yourself, and it's the only worthwhile investment. Shitposting on /ic/ is its own problem.

>> No.3173832

>>3173653
>a literal shitter calling regulars here shitter
oh wow the delusion
>buzzword
yeah /pol/nigger confirmed

>> No.3173833

>>3173322
>I see some friendly people on /ic/ I don't see anywhere else on 4chan, except /sp
false
/int/ is friendly
most hobby boards are friendly (/p/ provides quite the (You)s for instance)
you're a crybaby

/g/ is pure shitpost though and that feels bad

>> No.3173847

>>3173833
Just imagine the difference in effort it takes to become a good photographer compared to an artist.

>> No.3173881

>>3173847
real photography is harder

>> No.3173890

>>3173881
l m a o

>> No.3173912

>>3173322
lolol

>> No.3173993
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3173993

Artist here. i now feel extremely depressed. Anyone whose not a bully who wants to talk to me on discord, that would be kind.... we can talk about art and shit and i can show my WiPs.....

Flesh and Blood#1652

>> No.3174000

>>3173611
>it's not bad

The proportions are shit, he clearly didn't follow any of his fucking There is a lack in subtlety in details - just fucking detail everywhere which actually hurts my fucking eyes. Oh, and he clearly doesn't understand how moe characters work.

>> No.3174004

>>3174000
>fucking

*fucking advice.

I'd must have accidentally deleted the last word. Anyways, that's enough /ic/ for a weak - already strengthens my belief even more that you should only take advice from artists that are better than you and can contact personally. Figuring shit out on your own is better than most of the 'advice' on this board. Fuck man.

>> No.3174008

>>3174004
*week

I am done now (:

>> No.3174034

>>3173524
>/ic/ is literally humanists centrist
>I literally had a whole conversation
>and his reply was literally
>Literally.

You said you're 19, I believe you.

>> No.3174038

>>3174008
keep that name on so I can filter your faggot ass, because clearly you won't an hero to do the world a big favor.

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3174200

>>3173322
>/pol/ hates everyone
>/pol/ is one person

>> No.3174201

>>3174000
Post your work

>> No.3174225

>>3174200

They are a similar minded collective. To act like they aren't is a blatant lie to yourself and others.

So, yes, they might as well be the same person.

>> No.3174237

>>3173346
That guy is already better than 95% of /ic/ (obviously including myself)

>> No.3174261

>>3174225
Then why is there so much in fighting and hatred for each other on /pol/?

>> No.3174273

>>3174237
Looks like slightly below average /beg/ tier work to me. Are you the artist?

>> No.3174281

>>3174261
Because although its all under the blanket of 'right wing' there can be many different ideals that directly disagree with each other. Non-/pol/acks dont want you to know that though.

>> No.3174350

>>3174273
stop shitposting and post your work dumbshit

>> No.3174552
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3174552

I'll bite
>>3173421

I don't know what is happening in these panels but I tried my best.
Do you draw with mouse?

>> No.3174598

>>3174350
But if me work is shit and I post me work wouldn't it be shitposting?

>> No.3174603

>>3174350
You're talking to a /pol/tard. Only the redpill tards there gets triggered by anything Maldraw.

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3174690

>>3174552
Artist here. that looks pretty cool. thanks

no.

>> No.3174728

>>3173410
>board is about politics, a topic on how best to run society at large
>topics regularly are about self improvement and questions about philosophy and religion when the OP isnt just shitposting
>open forum where anyone with a dissenting opinion can throw their hat into the ring
seems pretty in line with the claim, desu

>>3173362
>there is irony in supporting hitler but decrying islam
your going to have to explain that one to me, i dont see much of a conflict here. off the top of my head nazism is isolationist, believes in racial dimorphism, seeks to preserve its own culture whereas islam is expansionist and seeks to convert everyone, and largely ignores race. one is also a political ideology that requires a state to even exist, and the other is a religion that while intertwined with the state can exist independent of it.

>> No.3174759

>>3174728
nice bait lmao

>> No.3174904

>>3173322
/r9k/ should be made a blue board, /pol/ has some sense of cameradery, and /fit/ is mostly shitposting and is basically just /r9k/ with muscles.

>> No.3174907

>>3173362
/pol/ is just one person with hundreds of thousands of VPNs.

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3174933

>>3173421
You don't deserve a redline, retard. It would be completely wasted on you.

>>3173447
Then do a hero and livestream it.
We will laff even harder when you fail that too you troglodyte.

>> No.3175026

>>3174933
post work

>> No.3175220

>>3174038
Whatever, bitch. Keep living in the delusion that you shit is good, crab.

>> No.3175222

>>3174728
>whereas islam is expansionist and seeks to convert everyone

Learn some fucking history and then come back to me

https://www.wsj.com/articles/book-review-ataturk-in-the-nazi-imagination-by-stefan-ihrig-and-islam-and-nazi-germanys-war-by-david-motadel-1421441724

>> No.3175232

>>3173292
>shit posting is related to hurt feelings

That anon is %100 correct, thats why /ic/ has the most shit posts per capita then any other board. If we were as big as /v/ this place would destroy the internet

>> No.3175392

>>3173322
only /b/ and /pol/ are actual cancer, the others are okay

>> No.3175409

>>3175392
"i have never been to /v/, or /trash/" the post

>> No.3175471

>>3175222
>have to pay to read
lmao i aint paying for that
i already know about how hitler wanted the strength of islams culture in contrast to the relatively weak and defenseless culture of Christianity. that doesnt mean islam is compatible with natsoc though.
>he thinks green texting and saying "learn history" disproves anything ive said
lol
>totally not expansionist or seeking to convert everyone
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/forced-conversion.aspx

>> No.3175598

>>3175471
God said no killing yourself, so no kamikaze fighters for the Third Reich. Hitler understood what religion really was.

>> No.3175622

>>3173312
>>3173322
/tg/ is the nicest board, they just want to share their creativity and love for their common hobby. even their fights are polite fights

unless you are arguing D&D 3.5 is the best system that is

>> No.3175807

>>3175471
Once again learn history you massive faggot. Stop projecting hitler's views. Fuck.

http://www.meforum.org/blog/2017/07/churchill-hitler-and-islam

>You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?

He literally WISHED the german people were muslim

>> No.3175830

>>3175807
again though, Hitler isnt talking about the actual culture of the religion, hes talking about the strengths of the religion,
>talks about japan only so far as the strength of their religion and nothing else
>contrasts the relative weakness of Christianity with the strength of Islam
>says literally nothing about the content of each culture
the wish was not to be Muslim, but to be stronger. if he wanted everyone to be Muslim why didnt he say as such? why did he point out the Japanese and talk about the values of their religion? why bring up ANY other religion if he wanted the German people to be Muslim? if that where the case then he should have only mentioned Islam and omitted every other religion as it only clouds the message to a point where people like you get confused. \

there are always things to like about other religions and beliefs, but that doesnt mean you have to like everything.
islam is strong because it refuses to capitulate to change, keeping its largely the same for thousands of years in accordance with the hadith, which hitler obviously liked, but then the religion of islam is very much rooted in the idea of expansion, forcing people to convert, forcing them to pay jizya (taxes) should they not convert, or to kill non-believers if they do not capitulate, which as a hard nationalist was likely not up to hitlers liking.

>> No.3176075

>>3173593
Does Asano actually do this? I assumed he was just a mad man.

>> No.3176077

>>3175220
I would post my work, but I know it would not make a difference to you. Shitting on work like that is in no way productive or helping the person in question. You calling me a crab is just the cherry on top to how fucking pathetic you are. The guy said he wasn't the greatest in the world, but is putting in a effort to learn. Only people who are frustrated with themself's would post bile like that.

>> No.3176169

>>3176077
What the fuck are you talking about? The faggot was posting 'advice' and clearly had no clue.

Then I say so and this is the response:

>keep that name on so I can filter your faggot ass, because clearly you won't an hero to do the world a big favor.

So I call 'you' a crab, and now you are fucking sperging or some shit calling me pathetic. For what?

Oh wait, I see, you are either:

A) Samefagging and got confused by your own shit or
B) You legit think I was responding to you because autism

That is my only two conclusions based on the start of your shit post :
>I would post my work

No seriously, I am actually confused on what context you are trying to communicate from. Waste of dubs.

>> No.3176172

>>3176169
If you're going to keep being a shit-flinging crab, post your work, if you even draw. If the advice given was so bad, offer some better advice you autistic tard

>> No.3176314

>>3176172
Lmao, you didn't even deny that you are a confused same fag.

>If the advice given was so bad, offer some better advice you autistic tard

Never qualified the advice you stupid faggot. Maybe take an IQ test in verbal reasoning.

I just said that you shouldn't give advice if you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Also you should actually give feedback on the work on how to improve it. The guy who I was replying to didn't do any of that shit. All he did was reference to some random fucking books that wouldn't help him with the work he has now

Also here is a doodle, and advice: don't give advice unless you know what you're doing. The worse this art is, the more right I am proved to be.

>you autist you made the page a perfect square

What can I say - I am incompetent. Maybe I shouldn't give advice and neither should the naga fag.

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>>3176314
I am frothing at the mouth at how bad my posts are (not really).

Here is the art (:

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>>3176315
There is a real inverse proportionality between the quality of my posts and the time of day, huh.

>> No.3177744

>>3173393
>the best way to learn about the world are anecdotal experiences from my own narrow and individual life. Why learn from statistics and the wisdom of greater people more experienced?
Hmmm, maybe not :/

>> No.3178956

>>3173362
>>3173362
>I am not fucking joking when I say /pol/acks drove me left.


I always leaned left in terms of policy but as the SJWs became increasingly more obnoxious, I started growing sentiment for the right-wing.

Until I realized they still believed in God and think evolution is a liberal hoax.

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>>3173354
/a/ is one of the most passive aggressive cunts out there, Ive never seen a board be given so much special treatment with the rules and yet bitch about moderation as much as they do. Hell /v/ is less angry then those f/a/gs

>> No.3178995

>>3174933
>anime poster
I'm not surprised

>> No.3179399

>>3176075
He takes photos, then edits them in photoshop to be really high contrast. This makes the image lose a lot of details so he draws over them anyways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVtMfqwxPhQ
I mean, it's not like most mangakas draw backgrounds anyway on weekly deadline, that shit is done by the assistants, most mangakas just draw and ink characters. At least Asano has more control over them.

>> No.3179637

>>3173322
the slower a board, the more peaceful it becomes. Maybe it's because shitposting can only thrive in a high speed environment

>> No.3181817

>>3173354
Letting /a/ get divided into those fucking "fandoms" was a huge mistake. Generals have fucking ruined the board and only attract outsiders who only care about their specific little circlejerk instead of being a part of the board as a whole.

>> No.3181832

>>3173362
>army in a war is happy when their side attacks the other side and is sad when their side gets attacked
Jesus christ how shocking.

>> No.3181841

>>3181817

/a/ was always shit

/jp/ is the superior board

>> No.3181856

>>3178956
>believe in God
That's only really a thing among older American basic-bitch Fox News conservatives. Today's far right in both Europe and America is mostly atheistic I would say. There are definitely some Christfags on /pol/ but they're a minority.

>> No.3182443

>>3173292
What the fuck did I just read?

>> No.3182447

>>3173367
Go play with a Kek themed fidget spinner.

>> No.3182458

i love my toxic /ic/ people critiques gives me greatness and hope

>> No.3182497

>>3173346
/pol/ hates Maldraw. He keeps spamming this shitty comic on all major /pol/ boards begging for money and commissions, but made the mistake of revealing via Twitter that he's a muslim and leftist. He's devoted more than two years of his life to pretending to be conservative and drawing this shitty comic to try and bilk what he apparently considers to be "Nazi retards" out of money, and has made less than $50 total in that time.

>> No.3182513

>>3173312
>>3173322
/co/ is a lovely place
join us

>> No.3184809

>>3173361
>ban things they dont like
Literally not true. If you have an opinion that goes against the grain you wont get banned for voicing it, and it will probably even get more attention. Posting "How can white men even compete" threads is what will get taken down.

>> No.3184850

>>3173467
You want me to critique your art? FINE I'll bite

It looks like in all three of your panels, you have both of your characters using the same exact poses for their hands, also you don't understand how to draw any angle of a hand. they look like tiny sausages with no segments on each finger. I bet you couldn't figure out how the muscles on a hand look.
Also, you're eyes are half moon shaped, both look almost identical. so it looks like you have zero diversity in your drawing.
The bodies from both male and female look like boxes, no curves, no bumps whatsoever. how many poses have you studied from real life? How many real life models have you drawn? I bet, you can only count that answer on one hand. maybe.

Your "shading." looks like it's just a bunch of half hazard lines jutting out from no particular direction. Also they aren't consistent lines, so your female character looks like she has hairy pits.
The hair looks like clumps of play-dough being shoved on top of a skull.
There are no backgrounds, stop being lazy as fuck and draw in a goddamned background. Where are they? in nowhere land?

also your arms are way too short, and it hurts my eyes to look at it.

To be honest, you aren't the worst person on planet earth, but you don't have smooth lines, your anatomy is fucked three ways to Tuesday, your hair has no sense of gravity, or sense of style. and your cocky on top of it.

At one point, I drew like this, and yeah it's fucking tough getting into this media, but jesus christ dude. You are on 4chan, you want people to be nice and not let you improve? go back to fucking tumblr. You want to improve? Get off this fucking site, go and fine some real life models. and practice. Were a few people on the internet rude to you? Fucking whoop dee doo. Get over it.

>> No.3184865

>>3184850
>half hazard

>> No.3184885

>>3182497
The fuck this guy doing? sauce?

>> No.3184946

>>3182497
>revealing via Twitter that he's a muslim and leftist.
SOURCE?

>> No.3184963

>>3184865
lol you owned him with two words unironically. my sides have escaped to argentina in a uboat to go into hiding indefinitely

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this thread makes me want IDs

>> No.3187915

>>3173833
>/int/ is friendly
t. X
yeah no.

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Holy crap this thread

>> No.3188995

>>3173292
>90% of ic can't draw
>The other half is too great
>>90%
>>The other half

>Manga