How do I go about improving values?

[Anonymous No.3169778]

Tips and resources would be helpful.

So far my plan is to take random images from google, turn it into black and white and then copy it.

[The Truth No.3169780]

>>3169778
It doesnt matter how you copy if you dont understand lighting and materials scrub

[Anonymous No.3169783]

Simplify things down into ~4 or 5 values. Maybe even just 3 (a light, a dark, and something in between).

[Anonymous No.3169925]

>>3169783
Yup. Start by drawing some stuff with very limited palettes, like 3 colours or so. Doesn't have to be greyscale either, obviously, but you'll start to see what works and what doesn't

[Anonymous No.3169935]

>>3169778
Dont do this.

RGB doesnt work like that.

Different colours would give you different values. As an example, go to your favourite program and draw pure RED line, GREEN line and BLUE line.

Then thrn the layer into monochrome. You will see immediately that the values do not match. Color that results from screen light behaves differently from color materials.

Study monochromatic captured images, not coloured images made monochromatic.

[Anonymous No.3169945]

I would say understand the form first.
Unless you know which side is facing up, side, or bottom, you won't know where to put light, shade, or shadows.
A good way is to train your eye to separate x y z surfaces to understand the form of an object

[Anonymous No.3169947]

>>3169778

[Anonymous No.3169951]

>>3169945

ewww DELET

[Anonymous No.3169981]

>>3169935
you do realize that there are different ways to turn images monochromatic?

There's the 'turn black and white' filter/layer setting, which gives the results you describe, and there's simply putting a completely black layer on top of the picture and setting the blending mode to color, which in your example would result in three lines with the exact same shade of grey.

[Anonymous No.3170244]

>>3169945
Why are you doing this.

[Anonymous No.3170254]

All you will learn from that it how to copy values.

To be able to render from imagination, you will need to study simple planar forms, like a cube.
Then practice simplifying the forms you see into planar structures.

You will want to study from life as much as you can. If you need to use photo reference, find photos with only one light source. A lot of gesture drawing resources have shitty lighting. Do not bother with shitty lighting.

[Anonymous No.3170262]

something nice I saved

[Anonymous No.3170287]

>>3170254
Isn't being able to copy values important though? I'm pretty okay at drawing from imagination. I'm not pro tier or anything but it's pretty passable.

[Anonymous No.3170288]

>>3169945
lol is this a lizard eye or something?

[Anonymous No.3170299]

>>3170262
Very good

[Anonymous No.3170310]

>>3169778
Charcoals.

[Anonymous No.3170314]

>>3170287
values are difficult to see. Yes, being able to observe values is a useful skill, but sometimes what you see does not help to describe the form.

In that case, you need to simplify and design the values yourself to make the form more obvious.

[Anonymous No.3170408]

>>3169981
didn't realize this was a thing. black color layer doesn't work in krita anyway.

[Anonymous No.3170497]

>>3170314
And Where Can I Learn to do that?

[Anonymous No.3170545]

>>3170497

Bargue course

[Anonymous No.3170683]

>>3170408
>>3169981
omg all this time ive been using the filter...

[Anonymous No.3170992]

>>3170262
What was the larger context?

[Anonymous No.3171059]

>>3169947
i love you

[Anonymous No.3171642]

bump i need this

[Anonymous No.3171652]

This is maybe helpful.

[Anonymous No.3171661]

>>3171652
oh, that's neat.

[Anonymous No.3171952]

>>3169778
Observe life

[Anonymous No.3171954]

>>3171652
who drew this study?

[Anonymous No.3172256]

>>3170992
I drew and ogre study and anon posted that critique the next day , mine was only first image , the other 2 and explanation are done by some good soul on draw thread