Comic/Manga/Doujinshi Thread

[Anonymous No.3167105]

Anybody working on comics and such? I recently entered into a doujin market (futaket) and I'm working on my first doujinshi.

This is a lot harder than I thought it would be.

[Anonymous No.3167110]

>>3167105
How do I enter into the doujin market? And how well does it profit?

[Anonymous No.3167112]

>>3167110
>>3167110
>How do I enter into the doujin market?
Live in japan, apply online

> And how well does it profit?
A lot of people end up losing money overall. It's mostly for fun.

[Anonymous No.3167119]

>>3167105
>japan, apply online
cal arts!!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.3167131]

finishing up one at the moment, i'll be honest i barely know what the hell im doing. It's a lot of fun, though.
You are right, way more work goes into it than it looks like.

[Anonymous No.3167299]

>>3167105
Wow what's your profile/blog m8?
That's pretty decent. Looks completely like the original.

[Anonymous No.3167343]

I think your composition is boring and the panneling doesn't read well. You're supposed to direct the viewer's gaze with motion/perspective/composition, and make it look pleasing overall.
Yes, it's hard. Study the greats.
Read Framed Ink too.

[Anonymous No.3167353]

>>3167105
I make doujins too. One mistake western artists ALWAYS make is not using screentones, but instead using flat greys.

Like what you're doing. It looks bland and unappealing. But you still could probably sell it on lulu.

[Anonymous No.3167358]

Heres one of my doujins thats currently in production. Its going to be pretty long.

Im honestly really excited to read my own work in print, its a very satisfying feeling.

[Anonymous No.3167360]

>>3167343
>>3167105

That's a good critique but I think his art style is already great.
Looks so similar to the LWA anime's style.
His technique in panning/panelling isn't that polished since there's not really a good reference book about those kind of stuff as far as I know. Most 'first doujinshis' have problems with it.
Anyway I think he's doing well and should focus on schedule.

doorknob needs to be polished though and that huge black part behind the door is annoying

>>3167353
This. Textures matter

[Anonymous No.3167373]

>>3167299
I started a twitter recently. It doesn't have much but it has a link to my other stuff in the profile. https://twitter.com/OrenjiPiiru

>>3167360
>>3167353
>>3167343
Thank you for the comments. As far as paneling and composition goes, I think it I'll just have to fail until I get better due to time constraints. I'll check out Framed Ink once I have a chance. Also, thanks for the suggestion on screen tones. I'll look into that.

For the most part, I've been looking at other doujinshi as references, but there's so many aspects that I need to consider that it's hard to really digest them at a non-shallow level. It also doesn't help that the quality of doujinshi varies widely and I might end up picking up bad habits.

[Anonymous No.3167481]

>>3167358
fuck off spic

[Anonymous No.3167647]

>>3167360
>His technique in panning/panelling isn't that polished since there's not really a good reference book about those kind of stuff as far as I know.

I think the guy's recommendation of Framed Ink goes over it.

Perhaps not paneling specifically (I forget) but he definitely talks about directing the viewer's eye in a composition, which you can extrapolate.

[Anonymous No.3167656]

>>3167105
hot

[Anonymous No.3167658]

>>3167112
Thats what I suspected...

Ah well. I guess thats how most things go.

[Anonymous No.3167797]

>>3167105
will it read from right to left

[Anonymous No.3167829]

>>3167358
>Medli
nice

[Anonymous No.3168098]

>>3167797
Right to left, yeah. It's a Japanese convention so I want to aim for that audience.

Finished the rough draft.

[Anonymous No.3168099]

>>3168098
Send it to Tattun once you're done senpai

[Anonymous No.3168101]

>>3168099
Good idea, I hope I can meet him in person at the event.

[Anonymous No.3168106]

>>3167105
please enable vsync on the door

[Anonymous No.3168108]

>>3167105
Pic related is super funny

[Anonymous No.3168140]

>>3167105
I've made this rough storyboards for a gag comic a couple weeks ago but i've been procrastinating from finishing it.

[Anonymous No.3168255]

>>3167358
Medli? Hell yeah. Now i just hope Wind Waker Link doesn't get fucked over in this. Do you have a page where you upload your stuff?

[Anonymous No.3168257]

>>3168140
Finish it, I like the mermaid design you posted. Also what's your blog?

[Anonymous No.3168293]

>>3168255
>>3168257
http://redmatsumoto.tumblr.com

My blog is probably the quickest way to get notified when i post new art. Either that or you can just search redmatzoo on paheal.

Thank you so much for your encouragement! It gives me energy.

[Anonymous No.3168294]

>>3168293
Also heres another comic im working on.

[Anonymous No.3168297]

>>3168294

[Anonymous No.3168302]

>>3168293
>that flustered medli

[Anonymous No.3168307]

>>3168098
ugh why did it have to be butt stuff

[Anonymous No.3168355]

>>3167353
>I make doujins too. One mistake western artists ALWAYS make is not using screentones, but instead using flat greys.
says a man who's used to reading scans rather than actual paper copies

Screentones in print are quite similar to flat greys, especially when the print format is smaller than A4. What you're used to is the paper texture mangled by the scanning process. To imitate that, rather than using screentones, you should be using proper textures. OPs problem on the other hand is not greys, it's the brush that's "too digital"; manga artists drawing digitally usually use more jagged brushes with 100% opacity (the only variance on pressure being the size) that imitate ink on a paper to a certain extent.

[Anonymous No.3168360]

>>3168257
Thanks, actually part of the reason I was procrastinating on it was because I wanted to get a good mermaid design down(the first one was too generic) anyway here is my blog http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/sketchbook/sketchdump-1-/viewer?title_no=117140&episode_no=1

[Anonymous No.3168370]

>>3168360
>webtoon
>naked figure
>not reported

Usually with me Webtoon users are scandalized for neckline.
You should put the censorship bars before taking "popularity"

[Anonymous No.3168382]

>>3168294
>>3168297
Actually very cute. I like it.

[Anonymous No.3168391]

>>3168355
You just assumed a lot about someone youve never even met.

Youre an idiot. Stay here, youll never make good manga.

[Anonymous No.3168395]

>>3168391

He said one assumption about someone he never met and then explained why he assumed that and justified his opinion. Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.3168433]

>>3168395
>samefagging this hard

Slurp thine own fathers penis, you peasant.

[Anonymous No.3168444]

>>3168391
>>3168433
They're right, you can't even defend your mistake, all you do is namecall. Great arguement.

[Anonymous No.3168548]

>>3168444
>implying im the 1st anon you replied to

Kys

[Anonymous No.3168552]

>>3168433

Keep shitflinging, babyman.

[Anonymous No.3168554]

>tfw been sitting on doujin ideas since late january
>already almost halfway through october and haven't worked on it since april

At least in that time I've taken to trying to learn fundies and improving figure drawing, proportions and anatomy, paneling, etc etc
Now I'm stuck on linework and trying to capture that "Manga" aesthetic but it's escaping me no matter what tutorial or art book I look towards for wisdom. (Doesn't help that I recently got a SP4 so I'm still getting used to drawing with this and figuring out pen pressure/tilt/velocity settings).
Pic is probably the cleanest rough sketch I have from the couple pages I did, the rest are too chicken scratchy

[Anonymous No.3168564]

>>3167105
Post nore so that we can... critique... yeah

[Anonymous No.3168565]

>>3168554
Move that mouth higher up

[Anonymous No.3168576]

I used to draw one, but I eventually dropped it for various reasons. I learned a few things from this experience, the main being that I have zero work ethic and I probably don't even want to draw comics in the first place.

[Anonymous No.3168582]

>>3168576
post that comic

[Anonymous No.3168585]

>>3168582
It's on my PC only, this is the last page that was finished, and probably the best looking one too.

[Anonymous No.3168587]

>>3168355
You got any other advice for screen tones and the such, especially for manga artists that draw digitally? I can barely find any sound advice from digital manga artists that don't draw like piss.

[Anonymous No.3168619]

>>3168585
give me blog instead then

[Anonymous No.3168713]

>>3168391
So was he giving poor advice? I would like to get into manga, but I need reasons why hes wrong.

[Anonymous No.3168719]

>>3168713
Is anyone here an authority on the subject?

[Anonymous No.3168731]

>>3168293
It seems like you haven't drawn from life or photographs very often, am I correct?
A lot of your drawings look like an attempt to emulate a style without understanding form properly, resulting in a lot of drawings that look skewed in some way.

[Anonymous No.3168757]

>>3168294
Porn fan art of real people is fucking creepy, dude.

[Anonymous No.3168763]

>>3167105
>HannaXBarbara
Oh my...
>futa
DELET THIS

[Anonymous No.3168776]

>>3168757
Not the dude but its hilarious. Besides her avatar looks a lot different from her irl.

[Anonymous No.3168895]

>>3168576
USE FUCKING SCREENTONES.

GOD I HATE AMERICANS

[Anonymous No.3168902]

>>3168294
>>3168297
Never thought I'd see porn of Jaiden's avatar
...and I think I like it

[Anonymous No.3168915]

>>3168902
Oh, you're about to have a real fun time newfag.
>>>/aco/1755450

[Anonymous No.3169053]

>>3168895
Even japs sometimes don't use screentones

[Anonymous No.3169207]

I'm a beginner but I wanna use the Jump/Medibang contest to try my hand at comics.
I don't know what page size and border size I'm supposed to make (in Clip Studio paint). Any rules to be close to the usual Jump stuff?

[Anonymous No.3169214]

>>3169207
I think Jump is JIS A5, but I might be wrong. I don't think it would be that hard to find the dimensions online.

[Anonymous No.3169229]

>>3169214
Looks like it. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.3169258]

>>3167105
Working on getting good period.
I want a manga style, but I can't even art yet, so no style i should attempt.

[Anonymous No.3169263]

>>3168554
I've been sitting on ideas for a decade now and I'm not out of the "picking up a pen phase" yet. At least you know what your doing.

[Anonymous No.3170392]

Has anyone tried using screentones in Krita? I'm finding it kind of awkward and I have no idea how to do gradients with it.

[Anonymous No.3170457]

>>3170392
Clipping group. Shade with black. Set on multiply.

[Anonymous No.3170491]

>>3168713
Was the advice bad?

[Anonymous No.3170593]

>>3170392
Don't close off the dick wrinkles, it looks like there's a string tied around it that traps the blood in the head. Super cringey to look at.

[Anonymous No.3170599]

>>3170593
Is this what you mean?

[Anonymous No.3171024]

>>3168355
Is this advice legit?

[Anonymous No.3171060]

>>3167105
>what's going on in this thread?

[Anonymous No.3171067]

>>3167112
Why are you in Japan? Tell me your story, I've always dreamt of going there but never thought of using the opportunity to draw doujin porn

[Anonymous No.3171068]

>>3171067
Extended vacation. I saved up enough to take a big chunk of time off and working holiday visas (you don't actually have to work) are easy to get.

It's kind of funny that I've traveled half way across the world and I've spent the last few days cooped up inside learning to draw dicks.

[Anonymous No.3171082]

>>3171068
Lmaoooo
Note to self .. finish hentai before going there. How are the girls there? Are they nice to you, a gajin?

[Anonymous No.3171104]

>>3171024
Not that guy. The answer is not that simple.

If you're preparing something for b/w print, your images need to be either a greyscale image in the 250~300 dpi range, or 600~1200 dpi for bitmap, or a combination of both kinds in an EPS file, which you guys probably aren't using. If you're using CSP, you're likely working with rasters, so it's either 300dpi greyscale or 1200dpi bitmap.

Greyscale washes are converted to a screen by the printer, and for digital offset printing used by most doujinshi printers, that is typically a 90~120 lpi screen. This means that if you're doing your comic in greyscale, your linework will be screened along with your washes and tones. They'll never look as crisp as a true high-dpi bitmap. Also, real manga screentones are almost never above 45 lpi. So using real manga screentones rather than greyscale absolutely makes a difference *in print*.

That said, western artists typically aren't aware of these things, and end up using screentones that are too tight, or convert them to low res greyscale images, which means they get screened again in the printing process. That's what causes the ugly moire patterns. If you're submitting as greyscale, then you shouldn't use manga screentones.

t. former manga publisher

[Anonymous No.3171213]

>>3171104
Fuck! Thanks Anon for that amazing advice. Saved.
Now i dont have to peddle a shitty moire manga in japan.
Also what does "t." mean?

[Anonymous No.3171951]

>>3167353
>But you still could probably sell it on lulu.
Lulu let's you sell futa lolicon?

[Anonymous No.3171978]

>>3171104
I was actually wondering about how the size I'm drawing in (which tends to be bigger than the manga standard of B4) and using screen tones would affect my work and create moire patterns when printting. Really useful info.

[Anonymous No.3172107]

>>3171951
Yeah. Just dont say theyre lolis you idiot

[Anonymous No.3172178]

>>3172107
How will they sell if he takes the loli label off?

[Anonymous No.3172321]

>>3171951
>>3172107
>>3172178
Does this really count as lolicon now?

[Anonymous No.3172351]

>>3170599
Much better, looked like the head was twisting and about to pop off.

[Anonymous No.3172354]

>>3171082
>How are the girls there?
I don't know, I'm drawing dicks instead of meeting women.

>>3172351
Thanks for the feedback.

[Anonymous No.3172418]

>>3168098
>Lotte and Barbara
I mean, sure, I'll take what I can get, but still.

Lotte and Frank is obviously the superior pairing.

[Anonymous No.3172899]

>>3172178
If they dont sell, its because of the artists lack of skill, brand recognition, or promotion.

The genre has nothing to do with it

[Anonymous No.3172941]

>>3172899
>skill, brand recognition, or promotion
Guess I'm fucked

[Anonymous No.3173499]

Currently working on one for a couple of years now. Anybody with experience self-publishing digitally on platforms like Kindle, Kobo, etc.? I'm thinking about ringing each chapter for like 3 quarters a pop.

[Anonymous No.3173501]

https://imgur.com/a/q3Sv0
I've been working on a comic for a while now, I plan to finish the first chapter this month and start releasing it next year, maybe around Valentine's Day. The writing and planning stages have been eating up a lot more time than the actual drawing, though. The art is far from perfect, but at this point I'd rather get my comic completed than perfect. I'd still appreciate critique though.

[Anonymous No.3173667]

>>3173501
Bottom two panels, you know how both characters seem to be facing the same direction? I can't explain it very well since it's not my domain, but in cinema this would be a wrong and with comics it's no different. I would have one of them facing the other direction to better convey a dialogue or combine the two alltogether.

[Anonymous No.3173770]

>>3173667
Good point, I'll change that.

[Anonymous No.3174473]

>>3173501
USE SCREENTONES

YOU STUPID AMERICAN

[Caramelly No.3174496]

Not an entire comic per se, but síndromes i feel like drawing a couple of pages just because. For example, i imagined an action sequence that i want to do with my OCs in comic form. First page.

[Anonymous No.3174497]

>>3174496

>caramelly

Always forgetting to remove that shit. Not anymore

[Anonymous No.3174501]

Not an entire comic per se, but sometimes i feel like drawing a couple of pages just because. For example, i imagined an action sequence that i want to do with my OCs in comic form. First page.

[Anonymous No.3174565]

>>3167373
>>3170392
If you're not going to be coloring I suggest you work in a Greyscale mode document instead of RGB to save RAM.

If you need to make an exception and want to use colors on just one layer, you can convert that particular layer to RGB, and have the other layers be Greyscale:

>Layer -> Convert... -> Convert Layer Color Space -> RGB/Alpha

Krita will still display the document as Greyscale, so you need to change the document's colorspace proptery to RGB/Alpha

>Image -> Propterties -> Image Color Space -> RGB/Alpha

RGB layers will then display correctly alongside Greyscale layer. the caveat is that any new layers you create will be RGB by default.

[Anonymous No.3174590]

>>3174565
Wow, thanks. I'll try that out.

[Anonymous No.3174591]

>>3174473
Screentones look ugly in digital to me, honestly. They look too perfect because there's no grit and distortion from scans. I think actual greys look a lot better if the work isn't printed.

[Anonymous No.3174685]

>>3167105
WHy do you like dicks? KYS FUCKING FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.3174733]

>>3172321
For normies, yeah. Hell, anything less than 18 yo or that looks petite is creepy.

[Anonymous No.3174734]

>>3174733
*considered creepy

[Anonymous No.3174760]

>>3171951
Can you sell porn in Lulu to begin?

[Anonymous No.3174761]

>>3174591
No, it doesn't. It looks hideous, flat, and boring.

[Anonymous No.3174776]

>>3174733
This doesn't even look less than 18yo if you ask me.
I hate pedos too but I never got how normies think it's weird to be attracted to 16 year olds when they look almost exactly the same as 26 year olds sometimes.

[Anonymous No.3174887]

>>3174776
I guess they're either afraid to fall in a slippery slope or think that drawing=reality.

[Anonymous No.3174969]

hey guys, im just wondering how i can start making money off of drawing hentai/porn? is there a website i can sell commissions on? should i have a social media site? halp pls

[Anonymous No.3174977]

>>3174591
I think it looks cool, but youll alienate manga purists like the other anon who replied

[Anonymous No.3175017]

>>3174685
some men what the feel of a big throbbing dick in their ass without the stigma of being called gay

solution: dick girls

[Anonymous No.3175022]

>>3175017
Moreso the psychological effect of sperm competition. Otherwise , why not strap ons?

[Anonymous No.3175028]

>>3174969
first of all be ready to commit a lot of time and effort into it

>start a tumblr
>keep posting regularly
>take requests and draw popular characters
>after a while people will want you to draw for them
>open up commissions/lower the rate of requests
>keep posting regularly
>lower rate of requests or stop doing them especially if people are commissioning you at a higher rate
>open up a patreon
>open up a ko-fi

bada-bing you made it

[Anonymous No.3175034]

>>3175022
strap ons/dildos can never compare to a real juicy and throbbing dick

[Anonymous No.3175036]

>>3175034
no homo

[Anonymous No.3175099]

Working on my first doujin too, I'm not using screentones either. I put some more detailed shading and add textures in some panels on the other hand.

[Anonymous No.3175100]

>>3175099

[Anonymous No.3175103]

>>3175100

[Anonymous No.3175185]

>>3175099
>>3175100
>>3175103


>disgusting oversized futa
>not using any screentones
>terrible anatomy
>terrible generic manga studio background effects

Get that garbage out of my face

[Anonymous No.3175189]

>>3175185
Show your work.

[Anonymous No.3175197]

Rate this comic draw please.

[Anonymous No.3175216]

>muh screentones

[Anonymous No.3175218]

>>3175216
Fuck it, I'm just doing pure black and white

[Anonymous No.3175256]

>>3175028
ok thx, when tagging on tumblr, what kind of tags should i use? i know some tags are blacklisted on tumblr and wont show up in search.

[Anonymous No.3175260]

>>3175028
also does anyone know if its still true that only the first 5 tags on tumblr are tracked?

[GuyWhoSaidWeHaveMoreFemaleAnce(...) No.3175263]

>>3175028
Whats a ko-fi?
>>3175034 good point

[Anonymous No.3175269]

>>3175099
Even though I dont have a YUGE dick fetish, I like your deatiled shading, and unique speech bubbles. So do you have a blog or something?

[Anonymous No.3175379]

>>3168106
kek

[Anonymous No.3175623]

>>3175099
>>3175100
>>3175103
You're practically painting the comic at this point. I think not using screentones is fine in this instance (and I'm normally a screentones faggot), in fact I think it would be a detriment.

[Anonymous No.3175629]

What the fuck is wrong with this board, I came here expecting good comics with beautiful art and elaborate writing, instead all I got is porn with lots of dicks. Then there's this imgur faggot with /d/ tier writing and fuccboi male characters who probably suck dicks as well. You're all candy ass cookie cutter tranny porn addicts, all of you.

k pissout by

[Anonymous No.3175642]

>>3175629
I also got a big nonporn manga/comics project. I'm just still working on the designs, fundations and storyboards at the moment.

[Anonymous No.3175645]

>>3175642
Looks like gay jojo trash. Not gonna read/10.

[Anonymous No.3175647]

>>3175629
>>3175642

[Anonymous No.3175648]

>>3175645
savage

[Anonymous No.3175662]

Please stop drawing lewd comics featuring my daughterus

[Anonymous No.3175665]

>>3175647
Looks like gay oblivion clone bro.

[Anonymous No.3175667]

>>3175665
Never played Oblivion.

[Anonymous No.3175693]

>>3175667
You'll love it then.

[Anonymous No.3175775]

>>3175647
I hope this is going to be lewd.

[Anonymous No.3175897]

>>3175629
>I came here expecting good comics with beautiful art and elaborate writing

From 4chan? Really?
After seeing the op image? Really?
You know what you clicked on.

[Anonymous No.3175935]

>>3175647
this is fuckinng awesome anon

[Anonymous No.3176023]

>>3175629
hail fellow pisstrooper

[Anonymous No.3178981]

>>3168307
Good news, I might change it to focus purely on blowjobs since I enjoyed a good blowjob-only doujin recently.