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Post your current drawing here and provide helpful criticism and advice to others!

Please make sure your posted image is clear, DOWNSIZED TO AROUND 1000 PIXELS WIDE, ROTATED TO THE CORRECT ORIENTATION, and that any unused space is cropped.

If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost it.

>dA /ic/ group :
http://4chan-ic.deviantart.com

>/ic/ Resources/Reference/Downloads/Links:

>General resources :
http://sites.google.com/site/4chanic/ http://sites.google.com/site/artandwhatnot/
http://characterdesigns.com/
http://crimsondaggers.com/forum/thread-3.html
http://finaltrinity.tumblr.com/post/13163064364/art-references-tumblr-accounts

>fellowBro's books :
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8

>Figure Drawing Tool:
http://pixelovely.com/gesture/figuredrawing.php
http://posemaniacs.com/

>Photoshop Brushes
http://cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/tower_of_evilzz

>> No.3161127
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>>3161126
what do you think?

>> No.3161128

>>3161127
Love the colors on the left side of the table, really makes it feel like it pops out at you.

>> No.3161135

>>3161127
Make another podcast you piece of shit

>> No.3161138

>>3161135
it would just be 30 minutes of me complaining about women at this point

>> No.3161140

>>3161138
Do it faggot

>> No.3161145

>>3161138
same

>> No.3161198

>>3161138
i wouldn't mind hearing that, stories about women usually have drama in them

>> No.3161199

>>3161138
Brian and women? Get me in on this.

>> No.3161200

>>3161199
>>3161198
alright maybe.

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wip

>> No.3161211
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armor and reflectivity study

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not very good with color

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wip

>> No.3161219

>>3161213
not very good at drawing either

>> No.3161223

>>3161219
LEAVE HIM ALONE!

>> No.3161228

>>3161135
Brian has a podcast??

>> No.3161231

>>3161228
https://soundcloud.com/user-444323605/same-old-shit-podcast-episode-4
I actually like Brian's voice, he's cool dude

>> No.3161235

https://soundcloud.com/user-444323605/same-old-shit-podcast-5

Alright episode 5, you asked for it. Complaining about women is my specialty.

>> No.3161243

>>3161135
>>3161140
>>3161145
>>3161198
>>3161199
Obvious samefag is obvious

>> No.3161252

>>3161243
nah man. I was one of those posters.

>> No.3161253

>>3161243
Only >>3161135 and >>3161140 are me lol, nice try guy

>> No.3161254

>>3161235
listening

>> No.3161256

Lol Brian apparently can't handle Zilean in LoL. League of Legends isn't too hard dude unless you're playing against pros

>> No.3161258

>>3161235
>Brian is plateauing
Feels bad man.

>> No.3161259
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How is this looking so far? I'm extremely insecure about values and composition. Am I doing it right?

>> No.3161260

>>3161138
i really want to hear this one brian.

>> No.3161261

>>3161256
im just too stupid for it. I narrowed it down to "fiddlesticks and annie are dumb enough for my dumb brain" and even that was too much for me.

>> No.3161262

>>3161260
>>3161235

>> No.3161271

>>3161262
ya i realized a bit late, can you add me on league when you relapse senpai?

>> No.3161274

>>3161235
How do I get as good as you if you're the best Brian?

>> No.3161276

Brian talks about how bad he is but I think he's not too bad. He's better than nosebro

>> No.3161277

>>3161274
i'm the least shitty, but you should still flush me down

>> No.3161279

>>3161235
Man I see you painting oil all the time, but don't you need ventilation for that? You look like you paint in a basement.

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>>3161276
using me as a measure is a really good idea since i never improve

>> No.3161283

>>3161279
i open windows sometimes, doesn't get too bad in winter, but i have a small airtight container that i put rags in so those don't stink up the basement.

As long as I don't use certain colors like prussian blue too much. I did a painting that had a full undercoat of prussian blue and i came out of the basement and felt sick from the smell in the air. I was just wafting in it for like 30 minutes.

>> No.3161284

>>3161281
>black guy being amazed and impressed gif

>> No.3161504
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Working more on this

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>>3161281
What the fuck is that

>> No.3161513
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portrait study. I never know when im finished with a face

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>>3161507
im practicing different hair style, from my newly invented one stroke hair to my much more tedious crosshair

>> No.3161556

>>3161218
why does it seem the character is not the main focus here, but the foliage is. Dude, your composition sucks.

>> No.3161557

>>3161281
So, nosebro finally admitted he doesn't improve. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.3161558

>>3161504
why?

It's a stupid idea.

>> No.3161563

>>3161557
hard to improve when youre already the best!

>> No.3161567

>>3161513
When it looks like a face and not digital art.

>> No.3161570

>>3161558
Because I can.

>> No.3161580

>>3161218
nice!

>> No.3161581

>>3161558
you're stupid

>> No.3161584

>>3161570
you should draw an elf girl with some big titties

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>> No.3161688
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>>3161567
the more i refine the less organic and similar to a face seems to me

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Give me ideas on what to do with this and I'll try it out. I'm not using any refs.

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just a reminder to anyone starting out with painting, make sure to do it in natural light. brought this to the sun and noticed colors were off and didnt look as good as in my room. correcting time...

>> No.3161695

>>3161520
I think you're having the Sycra style problem. I don't like any of these except for the last one on the right, she looks interesting. Let's see if Nose can draw/paint realistically

>> No.3161696

>>3161693
but I paint at night. and the light in here is total shit.
this is me
>>3161689
the colors are off tho lol

>> No.3161700

>>3161696
>the colors are off tho lol

doesnt look bad to me. i was thinking of it being an island with a small boat going up to it, or add some fantasy angle to it, like a shore line with some creature siting by it

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>>3161688
i did this for fun, but i mean... your foundation is pretty good i honestly didn't have to change that much in it. Not sure if this helps at all since I can't see your ref. I should probably write notes on redlines.

>> No.3161716

>>3161707
Lol, never try overpainting again Brian.
You made it much worse

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>>3161716
how about now?

>> No.3161720

>>3161700
the water and sky don't match, but maybe they don't have to match?

I like your suggestions!

>> No.3161750

>>3161718
please no more

>> No.3161819
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>> No.3161821

>>3161819
How do I get as good as you?

>> No.3161826

>>3161821
hmm, this isnt good, lm beginner

>> No.3161827

>>3161826
Okay, how about how do I get to your level?

>> No.3161830

>>3161827
l paint for 9-10 months, 3-4 hours a day (not every day), and l watched all episodes of CTRL+paint thats all.

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>>3161819

>> No.3161928

>>3161819
did u even paint anything in there? i can clearly see most if it were shitty brushes

>> No.3161937

>>3161688

Looks good to me...

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University just started and its already sucking up all my energy and time , used to do study a day , this is first one this week .. anyone here attending university , how many pieces do you manage to do in a week ?

>> No.3162239

>>3161259
The highlights do seem semi random, but for the subject matter I don't find it unappealing. Super muscular comic book bodies do well with this type of lighting. I would continue to refine it, get it to the same level of polish as the face, and keep it B/W.
>>3161504
Composition and background looks amazing, more attention to the animal as you continue.
>>3161819
Nice experiment, great colors. Too busy with the brush presets.

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did more to this painting. using transparent paints and doing glazes

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what kind of brush do you use to block in?

>> No.3162333
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Sum girl face. Anyone have a systematic way to do hair? I've just been copying and it feels like im missing something in the process.

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>> No.3162756

>>3161126
fuck you brian sva doomed you from the start you
"oh, I can paint in any style"
bullshit you are the most inauthentic painter I see i/c yah see

>> No.3162776
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I would greatly appreciate some tips with this, I'm still a beginner when it comes to rendering out a painting like this.

Is there anything I can do to improve the composition at this stage?

>> No.3162779

>>3162776
with composition you have to make sure that the horizontal and vertical lines aren't lined up
also study brian rigney if you want to

>> No.3162784

>>3162756
Hi Brian>>3162776

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>>3162784
>>3162776
I just want tips for my painting buddy

>> No.3162826

>>3162756
I was drawing way before sva... and I was only there for a year

>> No.3162828

>>3161126
sup bb, I'm mostly a lurker so excuse me if this is a stupid question, but are you living of your art?

>> No.3162832

>>3162828
No I'm living off my parents. So if you're worse than me good luck cause my shit doesn't sell either

>> No.3162843

>>3162832
Because you're a useless fucking leech. Get a fucking job.

>> No.3162868

>>3162843
Nah I'm good

>> No.3162869

>>3162832
I'm better than you, but I never tried to sell my shit though and I'm back after a long hyatus of not touching shit cause I was angry and annoyed with art

Are you seriously living off your parents? Not judging, just curious

>> No.3162881

>>3162869
post your work, but even if you don't i've never taken a break from art. when I'm annoyed or angry with art I make more art.

And yes I do. I have no friends, no girlfriend, don't do drugs or drink, and my parents are completely supportive of my work. They didn't used to be but then I got gud. I've been accepted into national art competitions, and am slowly making my way towards a career. It would be retarded for me to stop now.

>> No.3162892

>>3162881
I didn't mean to offend you or sound cocky or whatever.

In my case it wasn't a break though, I studied since I was 11 and by the time I was 20 I was kind of fed up, didn't know anything else and wanted to try doing sports, having free afternoons and Saturdays, so I said enough

>> No.3162894

>>3162881
You have no girlfriend because you're pretty fucking ugly and paint yourself better than you look.

>> No.3162899

>>3162881
How do you get people to be completely supportive of your work?

>> No.3162904

>>3162899
His parents are well aware that their son isn't going anywhere in life due to his mental capacity. They know he can't land a job that will let him support himself. Family will take care of him until they get too old and the state ( our tax dollars) will give him assisted living.

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>>3162904
sounds like a great plan

>> No.3162912

>>3162906
Thinks it's funny that his parents have to have around and take care if a 30 yr old like he's in jr high for the rest of their lives because their son is a mental retard

>> No.3162929

>>3162904
>our tax dollars
fuck off. go pretend to be an adult somewhere else other than 4chan
>>3162912
my parents lived with their parents until their late 20s, how does them supporting my art affect you?are you one of those guys that starts the "my parents found my furry porn" threads? I'm sure they're very proud of their white son who draws anime.

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>>3162929
also i finished this

>> No.3162942

>>3162929
No dude, you fuck off. You're a fucking drain on society. After your artist dream crashes, your date is exactly what I described. No work experience. Nothing. Your a fucking leech. Brian fucking comforti. You're a fucking loser.

>> No.3162945

>>3162942
You're describing every artist who's ever lived. Find me an artist that contributed to society. If you are so concerned with keeping society's wheels turning go help people in puerto rico

>> No.3162947

>>3162931
What's a fast track to getting good?

>> No.3162948

>>3162945
You're not an artist. You're not them. Their mommy and daddy didn't take care of them. What you ARE is delusional and a lazy sack of shit

>> No.3162950

>>3162912
I'm not brian and I don't think it's funny, I'm also not a mental retard and I'm also not 30

>> No.3162951

>>3162947
you should ask >>3162948
he seems to have it all figured out

>> No.3162954

>>3162951
That guy didn't even post his work, I at least know you're good Brian and would seek advice from such a reliable source.

>> No.3162962

>>3162954
alright... my opinions on what people should study change daily, but currently these are my feelings on it

The most important thing is drawing, and the most important things to draw are fabric and the human figure. If you want to be on the fast track (which still means years) to getting to where I'm at, get some fabric from a fabric store, just basic off-white fabric, and a make-up mirror, and draw your hands, face, and the fabric everyday.

For the most part anything you shade will have light interacting with it either like fabric or like a human figure.

light hits stone, wood, metal, some plants, and any hard thing like that as if it's skin. light hits water, clouds, hair, and some plants like it's fabric.

If you can draw fabric, and you can draw the human figure, you can draw anything.

>> No.3162966

>>3162962
I say "Some plants" for those because waxy leaves act like skin for all intents, and some petalled flowers like lilies from what I've observed are more or less fabric.

>> No.3162971

>>3162962
and you might not think metal acts like skin, but it's a variation on it. If you really look hard at a metal pitcher or something you'll see there's a definite simplicity to it's shadows, it just also happens to be incredibly reflective. And reflections for the most part are like drawing 2d images that are layered on top of the reflective object, so you don't really need to specifically practice metal. You'll just get better at it as you draw more.

>> No.3162980

>>3162962
>>3162966
>>3162971
Thanks for the advice, I'll get on it.

>> No.3162988

>>3162980
Also, make sure not to hav e any kind of side employment whatsoever. Ask your parents to fit the bill for everything. They deserve that.

>> No.3162995

>>3162988
yeah that fabric and mirror could run you as much as $30, and the pencils and paper alone for the year could cost you over $100

Make sure your parents can afford the $130, it can really be a strain on your whole family's household, relationships, and livelihood.

>> No.3162997

>>3162995
some family's don't even make $130 in a year, I'd say maybe until then do something other than art, because the 2nd best way to get good at art is to work at mcdonalds.

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took an old oc and making some bullshit out of it, still a work in progress

>> No.3163208

>>3163203
also could someone help me with painting skeleton hands I've only roughed them in but I still am trying to figure out how they'd curl around the guy's shoulder

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How do i into cloth?

>> No.3163365
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Do you guys know any good tutorials on digital painting/rendering/techniques preferably on cgpeers? I did pic related following one of dongjun's tutorials but they can be a bit overwhelming at times.

>> No.3163403

>>3163365
have you seen this one yet?
>https://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm

>> No.3163407

>>3163365
Nice stuff, how did you get the textures on the second one?

>> No.3163416

>>3163407
Play around with the layer blending modes, for textures lighten mode or soft light usually work fine.
>>3163403
Holy shit thank you.

>> No.3163417

>>3162997
How about working at a place that takes care of old people?

>> No.3163423

in my opinion brian is one of the best painters here. nosebro doesnt come close

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Do idle doodles count.
I got nothing else.

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>>3163446

>> No.3163456

>>3163423
Hi, Brian.

>> No.3163466
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>>3163272
I'm getting nowhere

>> No.3163484

>>3163466
Values are off, needs deeper shadows and more highlights. Flatten that image and turn the contrast up see where you're going wrong.

>> No.3163490

>>3163447
hello brother, blog?

>> No.3163496

>>3163490
Ah'm a sister, but I don't actually have a blog. Do you think I'm actually decent enough to have one? I have been thinking about making an Instagram.

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>>3163466
Same here, I'm fucking terrible at this too. Also Brian plz make more shit, I'm bored asf right now

>> No.3163614

>>3163613
you gave her a massive underbite

>> No.3163616

>>3163614
Yeah I just noticed that too, fuck.

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>>3163496
Yes, make one ya faggot. I'll make one if you make one

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finished this. might do a landscape like it. i enjoy this style so far. needs a lot of refinement but i feel like im onto something.

>> No.3163653

>>3163651
What do you call this style?

>> No.3163658

>>3163653
Neo-Synthetism.

Or at least that's what I'm attempting.

>> No.3163659

>>3163651
is that a dildo?

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look

>> No.3163666

>>3163659
lmao, no it's cloth. first attempt, there was bound to be a dick in there somewhere

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>>3163659
Here I got rid of the dick, I'm gonna do a landscape like this tomorrow

>> No.3163690

facebook./some1234

>> No.3163693

>>3163690
if you're gonna advertise me on facebook im facebook./briancomfortiart hmu with a like

>> No.3163703

>>3163496
either make a blog or join my server so i can keep track of ya'

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revised (face of woman on far left)

>> No.3163735

>>3163728
trying to be brian with those brushstrokes, eh chunbum?

>> No.3163739

>>3163735
brian is more impressionism and cubism

i am more expressionism and cubism

>> No.3163744

>>3163739
youre both shit

>> No.3163747

>>3163744
brian is one of best here. care to show your work?

>> No.3163937

>>3163747
I also unironically agree, /ic/'s overall quality has gone down due to getting more shitters lately. Brian simply has the problem of "muh style" and if he really wanted to be concept artist or go after "that hot illustration money" as he puts it, he could've done it in like 2 years.

>> No.3163941

>>3163747
>facebook./briancomfortiart
Facebook is the mother of all hug boxes. Facebook doesn't even like his repetitive shit.

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>>3161126
>tfw don't know how to typesetting

>> No.3163985

>>3163959
Oh hey, isn't that the shitty book series idea that some faggot is getting other people to illustrate? I remember him asking me to make some comic pages for him but I ended up not doing it after reading his garbage writing

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>>3163985
Flippy?
Yeah, i just draw his character because i have no idea what to draw at the time, took longer then i expected because of school so i missed the deadline lel.

>> No.3163999

>>3163988
Yeah, FlippyisKing or whatever is his name. I have no problem with people drawing for him it's just that I don't like how tropey his story is. It's trys hard to be cool but ends up coming off generic teenager pandering bullshit that has no has very little depth.
PS. Look at hand references because that front hand's fingers lack form

>> No.3164000

>>3163999
has very little depth*

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What do you think of my angel anons?

>> No.3164103

>>3164054
pretty ugly for an angel, that chin man

>> No.3164147
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3164147

>>3161126

Practicing figure basics and shit.

>> No.3164174

>>3164147
Good practicing. Do like 100 more and you'll make it

>> No.3164176

>>3164174

As many as it takes I guess.

>> No.3164190
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3164190

help

>> No.3164234

B

>> No.3164249
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3164249

I used a drawing from kill la kill as reference for this. I enjoyed the pose so much that and wanted to do one similar myself

>> No.3164250
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3164250

>>3164249

The pose I used as reference.

>> No.3164268

>>3164249
I'd say it's pretty good but next time remember that Ryuko is pushing her hand into her arm which intesifies the action.
Gesture is key

>> No.3164301

>>3164268
I get what you saying. My version isnt as strong as the pic i used as reference and the key is the arm/hand.

Need to train drawing stronger poses

>> No.3164305

>>3164301
I actually meant to say her arm into her face woops/

But yeah its like her whole torso is moving to do that action to emphasise it

>> No.3164316

>>3161235
I'm confused about what you're complaining about but by the end of this I'm super glad I'm gay.

>> No.3164317

>>3164316
If you check out Brian's twitter, you'll understand.

>> No.3164322

>>3164316
There's a reason they call you "gay". You're fucking lucky. I've tried looking at gay porn and it literally does nothing to my dick

>> No.3164328

>>3164305

Yeah, I see it too. Ryuko pose is more dynamic and intense.
Mine is too stiff and lacks strength.

Ryuko's arm is more raised, her face has an angle and follows the direction that the arm is going for.

>> No.3164332

>>3164328
Still good rendering and stuff man

>> No.3164335

>>3164332

Thanks. I'm going to do some changes now with your feedback. I see some things to fix thanks to your help.
Cheers and thanks.

>> No.3164338

>>3163447
Big fan of your lines and how your characters emote

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3164341

>> No.3164367

>>3161235
I'm sorry if this is off topic but what the fuck is this shit? I haven't even listened to half of it, and already everything coming out of your mouth is complete idiocy.You seem to me like you have barely ever even had a full conversation with a woman. You talk about females as if they're a single entity, like they're all the same, and you understand the world so much better than they do. Do you even realize that women are humans too?
>women get to tell anyone they like how they feel, and the guy will just say alright i'll make it work!! it's so unfair why do men not get to do this?
What world are you living in where there is a norm like this? This is clearly, objectively not the case. Then you go on to claim that this bullshit is the reason why men are aggressive, and why wars exist. Because men are 'unhappy' because of women. Uh, do you even understand what you're saying? How can a human possibly be this fucking isolated, sad and moronic? Yes there is something that makes men more aggressive than women, it's called testosterone. How about you do some research before letting this shit run out of your mouth? https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/280915.php
I don't know what more to say. You need to get out of your fucking basement, man. Stop going to 4chan, start actually interacting with real human beings. For God's sake Brian, this is the most sad thing I have heard in my life.

>> No.3164381

>>3164367
Spotted the sjw

>> No.3164392

>>3164381
Good eye, my friend.

>> No.3164395

>>3164328
>cel-shaded anime
>rendering
oh, how low has /ic/ fallen.

>> No.3164399

>>3164395

There are more to rendering than just making neat textures.
The coloring is pretty simplistic, flat yes, but there are shadows being cast, color being used.

Even if it's cell shading anime crap, you can still value the pallet used, how it was used and technical aspects like shadows.

For such "artistic" critical view, you sure have a limited perspective regarding the critical aspect of any type of illustration and the diverse, non linear rendering aspects

>> No.3164401

>>3164381
>>3164392
Or maybe the sane, adult citizen.

>> No.3164403

>>3164401
Dude this is 4chan there's no reasoning with them. Just leave them to their self destructive ways.

>> No.3164435

>>3164401
Geez he's dropping A-bombs now. He's gone full reddit

>> No.3164458
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3164458

>>3164341
Her forehead seems a bit too big but feel free to ignore in case this is what you were aiming to

>> No.3164461
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3164461

>>3164399
That's because I actually want to get a good paying concept art job and not draw people's shitty ocs and cancerous fanart in anime style for others. What you said about the color pallet was great and all, but if you're sitting there trying to tell me that anime cel-shading that has zero texturing on it at all will be approved by the 3d modelers you're an idiot. You can try and convince the shitters on /ic/ that cell shading is good rendering, but in the real world it's not gonna cut it.

>> No.3164463

>>3164458
The shading style reminds me of Firez

>> No.3164466

>>3164461
Beginner tier anon weighing in on "the real world"

>> No.3164468

>>3164463
It is actually me. Firez :)

>> No.3164472

>>3164466
he's kinda right tho. many people have a stigma against anime art due to it being the current zeitgeist of art for beginners. disagree with a couple of his points, but i think you shouldn't be quick to call people who favor realism beginners especially if they hang around on the draw thread (usually the quality is better around here)

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3164476

>>3164468
N-nani?! Firez is improving?!

>> No.3164525
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3164525

>>3164461

>concept artist

Is this the main goal for every /ic/ poster? What about just doing interesting original art? Maybe even publish a comic of your own through some independent way? Hell, doing it through the internet with webcomics?
Who the fuck says that you need to pain photorealistic shit to have your work praised? Imagination and vision alongside with technical skill yes, but you don't need to create incredibly elaborated rendered drawings

Moebius was a master and he could do incredibly visually complex works. He could also achieve impressive results with simply, but intelligent usage of colors and details without overworking to much his renders.

I guess you can shit on creativity and focus on realistic texturing (like that meme image of the marine soldier concept /ic/ loves to throw around the board)

But there is more to a graphic artist than just create realistic concept art for games or movies.
I'm not saying what I posted is original, it is not and It wasn't drawn with that intention.

As I said, I saw that illustration and I felt inspired to do a quick doodle with that pose in mind, but having such a simplistic notion of what an artist should aim that regarding his career and what should value most.

You have a very limited view in my opinion

>> No.3164569

>>3164458
>>3164476
nah, he still fucks up far eye somewhat and ear is humongous.

>> No.3164645
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3164645

some plein air painting still need to push around the background a bit more

>> No.3164646

>>3164645
don't work light to dark. for plein air it's best to do mids and darks first, and lights when that dries.

>> No.3164652

>>3164646
LOL no

>> No.3164658

>>3164652
its oil paint not watecolor.

>> No.3164668

>>3164645
More contrast

>> No.3164669

>>3164652
if you're not going to do that, at least do grisaille? light to dark is the dumbest most inefficient way to work...

>> No.3164797
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3164797

Untitled Being I

>> No.3164804

>>3164797
Have you ever in your history let a layer fucking dry?

>> No.3164812

>>3164804
yes i worked on this painting after waiting for it to dry. there were 2 to 3 sessions separated by drying periods.

>> No.3164816

>>3164669
>light to dark is the dumbest most inefficient way to work.
if youre a retard yeah

>> No.3164822

>>3164816
You can't say that when the painting you produced with that method is garbage. I can practically smell all the paint thinner you drowned your pigments in

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3164841

statue study wip

>> No.3164867

>>3164822
>>3164646
>I can practically smell all the paint thinner you drowned your pigments in
you reckon you could tell me why it's garbage? don't see how lean paint equals a crap picture and I can't say I intentionally painted light to dark, more focused on planes and overall composition. plus these posts weren't mine
>>3164816
>>3164646

>> No.3164879

>>3164867
just speaking from how i currently paint, I find it's best to work with opaque and semi-transparent paints and then lay trasparent paints on top of that initial more opaque layer, so you can enhance colors and brighten areas.

So even if you don't work dark to light, try working opaque to transparent.

But the effects of light paint laying on top of dark paint is a fairly common one, not sure if it's a modern/contemporary technique, but it helps create the illusion of light better.

For the darks you should be painting, and for the lights you should be drawing, because it's harder to redo light areas, and lighten paint already on the canvas, than it is to go darker. If you start with thin dark layers you can always go darker, or add mid tones, but the light is the last thing you should do.

It also helps you understand the range of values on your canvas. Just visually it can be much more informative if you already know the darkest part of your painting. For the most part highlights shouldn't be white, unless it's a reflective surface like metal, so when your canvas is all white it can become hard to gauge when something is dark enough.

You can always just say fuck that and work in ranges of 25%-75% value and just slowly work on small areas without any layers, but that depends on what type of painting you are trying to do. And even then, you'd at least want a wash of lightened burnt sienna as your ground, it wouldn't just be working on a white canvas.

>> No.3164882

>>3164879
>>3164867

either way though, the main thing you should be worrying about with painting right now isn't "This is the right way to work".

as soon as you think you've found "the right way to work" try something else. If you're used to working light to dark, do the opposite, or somewhere in the middle.

Most of the time you should abandon a method of working even if you haven't mastered it yet, because you'll never find out how you like to paint that way.

>> No.3164899

>>3164879
>>3164882
Yea completely agree with your last point aha that's sort of why I'm starting to have a go painting plane air. definitely have a lot more to work on overall anyway. I think I was struggling with how overcast it was on the day, it didn't exactly give me much to work with in terms of contrast in lights and darks which is why i think the painting comes off a little flat. thanks for the advice. ill have to start using a ground too, the masonite im painting on would come in handy if i were to prime it with glue instead of gesso

>> No.3165101
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3165101

Self Portrait XII

>> No.3165175
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3165175

pls critik

>> No.3165177
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3165177

>>3163446
>>3163447
Me again. Went out and bought myself some metallic pens.

>> No.3165178

>>3165101
you're literally an illegal immigrant

>> No.3165200

>>3165178
what makes me an illegal and not you? your great great great grandfather killed off all the native americans. isnt that illegal?

>> No.3165206

>>3165200
No, it was government-sanctioned. The opposite of illegal. Don't confuse legality with morality cumbum.

Not that anon btw. My ancestors migrated here legally, mostly in the 1800s, and farmed for generations. No scalping that I'm aware of, or slaves, too poor for that.

>> No.3165209

>>3165206
the only difference that mattets is that your ancestor was "legal" and i am also legal, but

your ancestor's presence on this land and the government sanctioned policies to remove the native americans were immoral and selfish.

i dont care about whats illegal or legal.

i only care about whats just and right.

>> No.3165226

>>3165209
Fuck off gook.

>> No.3165234

>>3165226
ufo (you f*ck off, not unidentified flying object, dummy)

>> No.3165256

>>3164249
>>3164250
You used an anime drawing a reference for the human form?

>> No.3165257

>>3165256
It's obviously just for the pose dumbass

>> No.3165265

>>3165257

Why not just take a snapshot on a camera doing the same pose? Or pose in a mirror?

>> No.3165269

>>3165257
>uses Mongolian fingerpaintings as a point of reference for human anatomy
>calling other people dumbass

>> No.3165354
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3165354

>>3164476
Maybe, maybe not

>>3164569
The ear was not big, maybe a tad high and maybe it still high but is better than before.

You were somewhat right about the eye, the perspective was a bit too agresive I guess. Thanks

>> No.3165375

>>3165175
You're definitely white

>> No.3165380

>>3165175
Wrong thread, beginner next time.

>> No.3165389
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3165389

did two self portraits

>> No.3165399

>>3165389
you didn't do them today or yesterday though

>> No.3165401

>>3165399
is this a riddle?

>> No.3165518

>>3164841

Can you post your ref?

>> No.3165523

>>3165389
those are super cool brian!

>> No.3165524

>>3165389
think you're fucking mohamed eh

>> No.3165525
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3165525

>>3161138
Bill Burr got it covered already heh
your works arent bad but i just cant get over the black outlines you make.. why? it would be so much better without them. background is the best part of this painting btw

what you guyz think bout my cuttlefish?

>> No.3165528

>>3165265
not that OP but when I do that shit for other poses I get too distracted by my own physique, which is far and away what I have in mind for most cases where I don't have a human reference

>> No.3165593

>>3165375
Define white

>>3165380
Sorry i dont frequent this board

>> No.3165613

>>3165525
Because the black outlines flatten the image, and I'm trying to separate big shapes as flatly as possible

>> No.3165663
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3165663

What the hell am I doing wrong?

>> No.3165682

>>3161688
It has to look done for you

>> No.3165705
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3165705

is this good? client wants a fantasy female with flowing fabric, cherry blossoms and birds. i'm trying to come up with several thumbnail sketches, but this is all i've got so far.

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3165733

Feel like I should just quit my college after finishing first year and study digital full time. Its art college but only for traditional , we will probably get digital illustration only in 3rd or 4th year ...

>> No.3165749

>>3165733
It's all the same fundies, anon, you can do it, I believe in you. Remember the most important resource is critique.

>> No.3165843
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3165843

Hey guys, I wanted a critic since you guys have a good eye for shading for different textures and materials.

>> No.3165861
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3165861

how to improve this painting? should i paint background blue? in serious need of suggestions

>> No.3165874

>>3165861
lets start by actually painting something?

>> No.3165884

>>3165861
Even if we said "paint the background blue" you'd make it vomit brown somehow

>> No.3165900

>>3165843
the metal accessories need harder edges and shadows light doesn't reflect softly off of those (dont overdo it though)

the red cloth is lifeless. it needs more contrast

>> No.3165902

Does anyone ever worry that someone will steal and take credit for work that they post on here?
Is the solution just to post a low res version?

>> No.3165903
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3165903

Would really appreciate any feedback!

>> No.3165904

>>3165861
I'd actually say, ditch the bg. You already fucked it up with the brown. But I think if you emphasize the silhouette of the figure more by creating a nice strong border between the bg and the figure. You could also use the bg color to represent what the figure is sitting on, allowing the top portion to be a white or something.

I wish there were less brushstrokes in the bg at the top. It's super distracting from the figure. Maybe if you swapped the complex top with the simple bottom, that might be an easy solution. I'd personally go for a really white bold outline, but it's up to you.
Also where are the arms?

>> No.3165912
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3165912

finished this

>> No.3165919

>>3165912
>isis

>> No.3165982

>>3165705
>client work
>only knows that he wants a fantasy female with flowing fabric and generic cherry blossoms and birds
>didn't ask for any physical characteristics like skin color and hair color
>didn't ask for personality ideas or the general vibe the picture needs to have
Anon, stop being a scrub. Your job as the freelancer is to provide a product as close to what the client has in their head, and the only way you're going to figure that out is by asking questions. As for the thumbnail sketch, her pose kinda looks like she's supposed to be sitting down so try putting on a rock with a lake in the background or something. If she's supposed to be standing and leaning to one side then I'd suggest redoing the pose.
tl;dr Add a background or fix the leaning pose and ask the client for more specific info

>> No.3165988

>>3165903
you know how it is, nobody will respond unless you're /beg/ or you're Brian. i'm still waiting for advice on that skeleton hand

>> No.3166139
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3166139

This is just a simple old timey posed photo of some characters. There's a lot that's messed up but it'll all be fixed in time.

This is going to be part of a larger piece I'm working on. I'm not even remotely sure how I'll integrate it but I'll cross that bridge later on.

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3166143

critique?

>> No.3166145
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3166145

critique?
not on the anatomy or values, as it's in a rough stage right now. I want critique on the general look and appeal/attractiveness

>> No.3166198

>>3165613
that doesnt make any sense. why would you wanna do that.

>> No.3166231

>>3165256

I used it just as inspiration. The rest I drew by myself.
I don't use cartoon illustrations as reference for anatomy due to them not being accurate most of the times.

>> No.3166247 [DELETED] 

>>3165265

I don't like using that method. It is easier to lurk some similar pose and I do the rest by myself. I have an acceptable knowledge of anatomy. Enough knowledge to do poses with little to no reference.

I mostly use other works/poses as inspiration

>> No.3166253

>>3165904
she hid them hanging behind the chair

>> No.3166256

>>3165354

It looks great.
Good job anon

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3166272

>> No.3166315

>>3161218
that one anon is right about the composition, maybe just leave everything else the way it is cause it looks good and render out the character more

>> No.3166330

>>3161218
>>3166315
oh I also wanted to mention you chose beautiful colours, good stuff anon

>> No.3166337

>>3165902
there is no solution. Dave rapoza had his skeletor stolen and put on a dvd box cover for masters of the universe.

There's nothing you can do to prevent art theft. I also HIGHLY doubt anyone would want to steal your shitty art.

>> No.3166368

>>3166272
she ded right?

>> No.3166386

>>3165912
I fuck with this

>> No.3166390

>>3165903
looks cool, nice shapes

>> No.3166431

>>3161218
Apart from changing everything, a simple fix would be to angle the dude's spear differently, right now it's too parallel to the log and the point is tangenting with the stumps.

There's nothing that draws me to the guy, Infact I almost feel like it's a chore to look at him, he needs a bit more space, the trees to his left are competing too much. Instead of him walking to the right, maybe try having him walking forward and over the foreground, place his foot in front of that long grey thing (log?) and also angle it differently. I think it would be good to toss in more layers of ground to imply depth as well.

>> No.3166432

>>3166272
The purple of the atmosphere is too over bearing, and too similar to the color of the character

>> No.3166537

>>3165861

You can improve it by throwing it into a raging fire. I also suggest taking a good strong inhalation of the resulting smoke.

>> No.3166591

>>3161218
>>3161556
I think your composition is good. It's fucking boring to have the same composition in everything. I like it when you are presented with a window into another world and it's up to you where to look. Always jamming the good stuff in your face is not the way to go, cause it gets so fucking boring.

>> No.3166597

>>3166591
fuckin beginners, man.

>> No.3166619
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3166619

did a self portrait

>> No.3166635

>>3166597
I am a beginner, tho lol. There is a chance you have a point

>> No.3166641

>>3166619
How do you paint so fast? How many canvases do you got?

>> No.3166644

>>3166272
nice thumbnail though

>> No.3166663

>>3166641
Muscle memory built up from doing repetitive paintings

>> No.3166671
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3166671

I think this style is more enjoyable. My last few paintings were too complicated.

>> No.3166673

>>3166641
I have about 6 paintings going at a time lately.

>> No.3166679
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3166679

>> No.3166685

>>3166679
it lacks depth because the highlights are too samey

>> No.3166717

>>3166671
But will it sell?

>> No.3166730

>>3166717
probly not that one, but im getting closer to how i like to paint

>> No.3166757

>>3166679
The values are bleeding into one another making it hard to distinguish depth. Really figure out where the light source is and then make it so that the feet are the closest and therefore most lit and then dropoff that lighting the further her body recedes into space.

>> No.3166782

>>3163613
One thing that might help you is to actually draw out the defined lines and get every shape right first before shading. I know you're using digital but lessons on traditional ways to achieve the same would greatly benefit you here.

>> No.3166817
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3166817

still a work in progress. trying this new thing where i don't blend until the very end. any tips on how to make realistic hair strands? i've tried different brush sizes and opacity but they always come out stringy and artifical looking.

>> No.3166820

>>3166817
Whoa so this level of realism is possible without blending.

>> No.3166838

>>3166817

Looks like vector art...

>> No.3166964
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3166964

>>3166685
>>3166757
Thank you for the input. I applied what you said in the next pass i did. How bout now?

>> No.3166980
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3166980

>>3166964
Look at the right most section. See how quick the light drops off into darkness? Now you probably don't want to do it that much but assumming the light is closest to the feet, her butt will be some 10% values darker for example and then another two on her upper body, not to mention her entire right side.

>> No.3167033
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3167033

"Bowl of Apples and a Metal Pitcher"

>> No.3167034

>>3167033
Now sell it at a contemporary art museum and get a million dollars from it and laugh.

>> No.3167035

>>3167033
what is it?

>> No.3167036

>>3167034
that's the plan, anon

>> No.3167037

>>3167033
Is this what I think it is?

>> No.3167038

>>3167035
It's a bowl of apples and a metal pitcher

>> No.3167039

>>3167033
Now how good are your business skills? Are you speech 100?

>> No.3167040

>>3167039
No but my sneak is through the roof

>> No.3167079
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>>3161126
Did a drawing on a 24 x 36 canvas. It is probably too much detail to put into a drawing for a painting, but I need to work out the composition and placement of objects before I paint them. I used Vine charcoal to do the drawing.

>> No.3167087

>>3167040
is that why girls never take notice of your advances?

>> No.3167098

>>3167087
what advances. nigga i just stay home and paint all day

>> No.3167102

>>3167079
Love the one in the back. Mind taking a photo of that one too?

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>>3167098
>nigga
im white.

>> No.3167117

>>3167111
You're a jew

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>>3167102
That is a reproduction of my harbor side painting

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>>3167102
It is a painting in progress. Probably only 2 hours to finish, but I have "Painters Block". Need to get unstuck, and flowing with the oils again.

>> No.3167136

>>3166139
I love the idea, Anon.
Looking forward for the finished piece

>> No.3167138

>>3166964
There's a smiley face on her foot

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>>3167117
youre just saying that to fit your narrative

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>> No.3167207

>>3167206
bait

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>>3165861
Don't thanks.

>> No.3168017

>>3167130
cmon man

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Quick value study , not meant to blend strokes or make or pretty. Weekend cant come soon enough, I got no time for real studies while going to faculty..

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WIP ozen from Made in Abyss

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>>3161126

Quick shit I did

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Plugging away...