/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.3152110]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>3149332

[Anonymous No.3152111]

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

[Anonymous No.3152113]

Only posting one reference. Thought this one would be interesting. Good luck anons.

[Anonymous No.3152148]

HOW DO I GET GOOD GOD DAMN IT WHEN DO I STOP MAKING LITERAL SHIT.

[Anonymous No.3152149]

>>3152113
Sigh...I still have too much muscles to learn. It's infuriating I can't draw shitty anime right now because the arms are probably the most important anatomical thing to know as it's seen the most and gives most expression aside from hands.

Back to the grind I go.

[Anonymous No.3152150]

>>3152148
How do you expect any answer with the lack of data. Post your work.

[Anonymous No.3152151]

>>3152150
I literally have no work to post. Just a bunch of unfinished shit.

[Anonymous No.3152154]

>>3152151
Post it.

[Anonymous No.3152163]

>>3152151
Try finishing something. If you have a weak spot like hands or feet that prevents you from finishing it, don't start anything new. Overcome it even if it means relying heavily on reference without fully grasping the anatomy or form.
You'll have a much better grasp on when you'll get better if you actually face all the hurdles instead of working on the fundies without clear aim.

[Anonymous No.3152176]

So I drew this last night. I have a really long way to go, but I'm forcing myself to draw at least once everyday to keep practicing.
I got a Wacom a few days ago and I'm enjoying it so far, getting used to it.

Now, how do you guys do the borders after sketching? as you can see in this example, my lines are all fucked up. I'm using SAI to draw, before I just took a picture of my pen drawings and used the curve tool to do the borders and digitalizing. Now I'm trying to use the pen instead but it ends up like this.

[Anonymous No.3152206]

>>3152149
You can do it anon! What are you using to study?

[Anonymous No.3152209]

how autistic does this look?

[Anonymous No.3152223]

>doing my morning gestures
>come across this specimen

[Anonymous No.3152227]

>>3152223
how sad...a pig that can't fly

[Anonymous No.3152236]

>>3152206
pseudo hampton then I'll study eaton

[Anonymous No.3152238]

where can i find poses for gesture drawing that isn't a bunch of circus faggots performing autofellatio upside down?

[Anonymous No.3152239]

>>3152223

[Anonymous No.3152240]

>>3152238
senshistock although it's mostly standing poses

[Anonymous No.3152247]

>>3152209
Why is she being eaten by pacman?

[Anonymous No.3152262]

>>3152240
thanks bub

[Anonymous No.3152288]

>>3152238
artmodeltips

[Anonymous No.3152295]

Any guide on how to color in clip studio paint.

[Anonymous No.3152296]

Cat studies! Reffed off show cats.

[Anonymous No.3152299]

>>3152176
pls respond

[Anonymous No.3152312]

>>3152176
looks like you've got pen pressure off. your linework might look better when you've fixed that.

[Anonymous No.3152354]

>>3152312
I will check my settings, thanks man

[Anonymous No.3152359]

[Anonymous No.3152360]

>>3152359
What artist is that?

[Anonymous No.3152364]

I drew this for awhile now
Tell me anything to improve this

[Anonymous No.3152366]

>>3152360
I don't know, it is just generic warhammer art.

[Anonymous No.3152419]

Doing keys. Proportions section is fucking hard. That normal or am I retarded?

[Anonymous No.3152420]

>>3152419
Get ready to learn the truth. Drawing is hard.

[Anonymous No.3152427]

sigh.

[Anonymous No.3152431]

>>3152420
That works. I just thought I was missing something obvious. So just grind them till they look right or move on and use different resources to study perspective? From my understanding keys is just a "dip your toes" sorta thing right?

[Anonymous No.3152433]

>>3152431
Just keep drawing, it takes months and years to master it. You'll get it right eventually. Keys to drawing is sort of beginner friendly, but it's legit drawing advice. Drawing accurately is really what most of drawing is.

[Anonymous No.3152438]

>>3152427
Jerry?

[Anonymous No.3152442]

[Anonymous No.3152444]

Hopefully this is the best thread for this.
How do I get started with commissioning my art?
Should I just post my arts in a website as a portfolio and put the prices I want or is there a better way to do this?

[Anonymous No.3152445]

>>3152444
Post your work first

[Anonymous No.3152447]

>>3152444
Be good. Get noticed.

[Anonymous No.3152450]

>>3152447
I already did, I just havent started drawing for people yet, hence why I'm asking.

[Anonymous No.3152452]

Kinda related to another drawing I did the other day. A character/entity that's been bouncing around in my head the last few days.

[Anonymous No.3152453]

>>3152444
Let's see how good you are. Are you doing porn commissions or what?

[Anonymous No.3152457]

>>3152442

Since you have such a messy sketch. Only you and probably a handful of people can see what you see. Try adding rough values to make the form clear.

Seeing a clear rough form will make things much more fun.

[Anonymous No.3152471]

So I started drawing a few months ago and I want some advice so heres a pic I made recently.
This was my first monster girl drawing actually.
How well I'm doing so far? What should I focus on learning? Give me anything that might help me learn.
I'm only really interested in drawing anime girls at this point in time. And 99% of them are nude as I dont really have fun drawing clothes.

[Anonymous No.3152473]

My second Riven attempt. I think I got a little better at eyes.

[Anonymous No.3152477]

>>3152471
Good. you should focus on learning light and shadow as well as proper cel-shading. Also learn about colors and color pick from your favorite artists to see how they use them. Use references for anatomy and keep proportions in mind like for the hand. Keep it up, you're gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.3152483]

This is the first thing I've done in like two years, i used a mechanical pencil for the base and then finished it with nail polish, and lipstick for the hair and eyebrows, i like how it turned out but something feels a little off. Any feedback?

[Anonymous No.3152485]

>>3152483
Just a beginner but lips look like a females, too full.

[Anonymous No.3152488]

>>3152471
Better than me

[Anonymous No.3152490]

>>3152485
It is a girl

[Anonymous No.3152493]

>>3152477
Thanks man. Forgot to say I didnt use a reference for that one.
And yes I do suck at proportions, especially with the hands and feets. But eventually I will try to get better at them. Cel shading too.

>>3152488
Theres always someone better.
Like most of the artists who been drawing since childhood. So lets try to be as good as we can possibly be.

[Anonymous No.3152496]

Is Harold Speed's The Practice and Science of Drawing" a book that you would recommend to a beginner like me?
I am considering learning using it, so an answer to this would be very much appreciated, in fact, you tell me to draw something as an absolute beginner and I'll even freely humiliate myself in this thread :^)

[Anonymous No.3152497]

>>3152496
Draw a cute anime girl.

[Anonymous No.3152526]

Is this colour study good compositionally? I still feel it could be better but not sure how to get there.

Am I supposed to paint over the tonal study when I do the colour study? I just did them independantly so i'm wondering what the point of the tonal study was.

[Anonymous No.3152565]

I tried again.

This time it doesn't look like a transvestite.

[Anonymous No.3152576]

>>3152565

Now she looks tired and sad... To me it's a good job. Honestly it doesn't matter if you can't copy it accurately. All that matters is that you learn something from it.

The more you do the better you'll get. It's inevitable that you will get good at observation. But copying without learning from it is a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.3152603]

>>3152113
I tried.
While It seems I'm not as bad as I thought that I was, It still isn't good.
Any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.3152611]

Did this without a reference which was probably a mistake because i don't know shit about perspective or foreshortening but fuck it. Trying to do more dynamic poses when sketching characters instead of them stiffly standing around

If someone could redline this/explain what I fucked up it would be much appreciated!

[Anonymous No.3152618]

>>3152526
he down wing touches the edge . the head feathers touch the edge.

[Anonymous No.3152620]

Drew without a ref,probably a mistake. Trying to be more dynamic when I sketch instead of just drawing people standing around all stiff.

A redline or critique or something would be appreciated!

[Anonymous No.3152624]

>>3152209
ms paint tier also stop drawing straight bangs, find some wind/air pattern, i.e if the wind goes left draw the hair swaying to the left rather than hanging it. It makes your character alive even if it looks like a shit. 4/10

[Anonymous No.3152649]

I've gotten to a point where I can recognize mistakes, but I don't know what they are, could somebody critique pls?

[Anonymous No.3152654]

>>3152649
That pen scribble shading is a fuck.
No need to rush dude

[Anonymous No.3152659]

How's this? Been about 1hr maybe? Now that the reference is directly next to it I see some difference in values.

Love this bronze zebra statue I got from the zoo the other day.

I decided i'll hold off on the phoenix painting until I do more studies.

[Anonymous No.3152665]

So hard to know what book is worth my time and what is not.

[Anonymous No.3152668]

How am I doing
Drew this at work today. Feels weird posting something not digital for once

[Anonymous No.3152669]

>>3152659
How do I get as good as you?

[Anonymous No.3152678]

>>3152110
I absolutely fucked up this one, but I would appreciate if you good goys would point out all the faults so I don't get it as wrong next time.

[Anonymous No.3152680]

>>3152669
i'm more confident at observational drawing than I am at photoshop desu. I don't even know when i'm supposed to make a new layer; i've just been making a new one after a few minutes of progression

[Anonymous No.3152688]

Some crit on my head construction would be nice!
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.3152708]

>>3152678
wow this is quite horrifying she looks like she is the victim of a thousand papercuts. Anatomical errors are too many to list all I can suggest is do studies or real human bodies and you will learn to see the flaws yourself

[Anonymous No.3152726]

>>3152678
>torso is a fucking tube

[Anonymous No.3152747]

>>3152678
fapped

[Anonymous No.3152759]

I haven't drawn anything seriously in a week. I'm really glad I was able to give up drawing. I wasn't going anywhere with it and I'd just keep embarrassing myself if I tried.

[Anonymous No.3152764]

>>3152759
>accepting he's ngmi

i feel sad for you. but also feel smug about you failing.

[Anonymous No.3152767]

if thats the last thing you drew seriously i'm glad you were able to give up too.

[Anonymous No.3152769]

>>3152764
Thanks. I didn't even enjoy drawing at all. I only did it because I liked when the results were OK.

[Anonymous No.3152770]

>>3152759
>tfw same except haven't given up and not going to

[Anonymous No.3152791]

>>3152649
Your ribcage and spine are both fucked. Spine should moving back as it goes down and the ribcage is starting to turn towards viewer.

Also the far eye socket is pretty messed up too.

[Anonymous No.3152794]

>>3152688
I realized I fucked up the nose, the bottom of eye socket should be a bit longer, so the nose isn't messed up like that.

I have a hard time getting the size of the Jaw right, anyone have some good tips or sources for that?

[Anonymous No.3152798]

>>3152665
Very interesting/disturbing. It's like you're a samurai version of James Joyce.

[Anonymous No.3152809]

>>3152665
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

[Anonymous No.3152810]

how would you describe this piece? using principles of design and all that jargon

[Anonymous No.3152813]

>>3152810
Contrast of line width.
Contrast of darkness and grey.
Some shit about negative space and positive space, diagonal lines and horizontal lines, something something. Isn't this supposed to be on paper anyways? Why do you have it digitally?

[Anonymous No.3152814]

>>3152798
I was about to write a weeaboo version of the opening Ulysses in response to this, then I remembered I can't write.

[Anonymous No.3152816]

>>3152813
could be done digitally or on paper. i need just a little bit more ammo for a 3rd person critique. i fucking suck at critiques. this the the "inspiration"
that i also need to analyze.

[Anonymous No.3152828]

>>3152473
Still symbol drawing nigga

[Anonymous No.3152829]

>>3152113
Good lord, the top took a long time to finish and the colors in mine still suck.

[Anonymous No.3152841]

>>3152814
>Riverrun past the weebs in Edo
This shit writes itself.

[Anonymous No.3152842]

>>3152471
Looks good, but I'd take a second look at your proportions, the hands are way too small and lack detail, and the arms feel a little wonky (perspective maybe?) also the jaw/ face looks a touch big. All in all looks nice though, just keep practicing. Like a lot of people here say, it's really helpful to use a reference even if you're drawing monster girls

[Anonymous No.3152846]

>>3152473
It looks better, but remember that people have more depth. A girl's neck isn't a flat cylinder, it has tendons and a few different subtle angles, and the shading on the neck should reflect that. Eye lids have depth too, and the eye lashes should look like they are curving out of the top of the kids, not just sticking straight up. The iris and the pupil also have many ridges and details, and the sclera should have small details too. You're making good progress, just try to imagine that you're capturing something 3D in 2 dimensions.

[Anonymous No.3152848]

>>3152565
You turned her into a poor man's k stew. I'd give her bigger boobs and call it a day

[Anonymous No.3152855]

yo I've been trying pen with nib n ink, it's fukcing ridiculous, if I try to do anything that isn't a straight line the tip gets stuck and it scratches and trembles, how do I avoid this shit?

[Anonymous No.3152857]

>>3152419
Normal or I'm retarded too. Keys is the fucking GOAT beginner book

[Anonymous No.3152858]

>>3152855
Practice.

[Anonymous No.3152864]

>>3152841
Okay let's do this.

>STATELY, PLUMP MULLIGAN BUCK-SAMA CAME FROM THE ENGAWA, bearing a bowl of sake on which a mirror and a katana lay crossed. A yellow kimono, ungirdled, was sustained gently-behind him by the mild morning air. He held the bowl aloft and intoned:

>-- 私は神の祭壇に上がる.

>Halted, he peered down toward the dark kotatsu and called up coarsely:

>-- Come up, Kinch-san. Come up, you baka gaijin.

[Anonymous No.3152868]

I'm I doing something wrong?
I feel like I'm doing something wrong.
The guy in the loomis books says I'm getting better.
I don't trust him.
Halp.

[Anonymous No.3152870]

>>3152868
FWAP is a fucking meme. Please don't waste your time with it. Go with Drawing the Human Head and Hands.

[Anonymous No.3152871]

>>3152868

[Anonymous No.3152872]

>>3152868
How the fuck are you so good already?

[Anonymous No.3152874]

>>3152870
Should I also read the figure drawing one?

>>3152872
I'm just copying the ones in the book. I only did like one or two of those by myself

[Anonymous No.3152877]

>>3152870
Nah, head and hands is a bigger meme. Loomis literally has TWO PAGES of FUCKING HANDS in the entire book.

FWAP is a one-stop guide to getting gud

[Anonymous No.3152883]

>>3152871

[Anonymous No.3152889]

>>3152883

[Anonymous No.3152894]

>>3152889

[Anonymous No.3152930]

>>3152877
OK I admit the hands part is shit. But at least anon chan won't have to draw deformed blobs anymore!

>>3152874
I cannot comment on that as I've not yet read it. I hate Loomis so I've gone with Vilppu lol, way easier on the brains to read! Also very good for beginners, I've tested it on a friend who never drew before and it worked. (I'll try to find the pics later) Hamm is also very easy to follow. Hogarth explains the best but have horribly exaggerated drawings. I've not yet started Hampton yet. Vilppu is just so good that I'm so not dropping it yet! (I'm looking at you Loomis)

Try to at least finish 1 chapter of potential art book before dropping it.

Use Loomis as an occasional reference book and Vilppu as a personal teacher.

[Anonymous No.3152946]

>>3152930
Also, I would suggest you to combine with photographic studies.

This is before doing photographic studies, with only less than a chapter of Loomis and Hamm.

[Anonymous No.3152950]

>>3152946
This is from imagination, after 2 weeks of photographic studies.

(Use this approach if you hate to read)

[Anonymous No.3152955]

>>3152950
2 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.3152957]

>>3152955
Same day or the day after. Trying to copy Vilppu's gestures.

[Anonymous No.3152964]

>>3152957
A week later.

The improvement isn't substantial, but way better than getting plateaued with Loomis, he was stuck in the same level for a year or so.

For now he's only focusing on Vilppu, and probably will go back to Loomis once he's done with the book. Granted, it's not panacea. Just wanted to share that Vilppu does work and need more recognition than Loomis...

For some people, Loomis just doesn't click as well as the starting point.

[Anonymous No.3152967]

>>3152950
Oops sorry wrong statement, that one is a study.

[Anonymous No.3152970]

>>3152967
Also, fuck Keys to Drawing/DoTRSotB and all those "symbol drawing" maymay. These books did shit, it may as well be resumed in the single sentence of "learn to copy accurately" and a single exercise of Bargue will teach the student to do that. You'd better spend your precious time to start learning constructions as soon as possible, that shit is tough and going to be in there for a long time.

[Anonymous No.3152980]

>>3152110
>everyone in /beg/ who is good can draw from imagination already before learning their fundamentals
>all I can do is copy
It's fucking over.

[Anonymous No.3152988]

>been on a fuckin roll
>wake up, I don't feel like drawing today
>night hits, remember I forgot to have muh caffeine in the form of tea
Holy shit.
Literally all I did today was doodles and finelining this.

[Anonymous No.3152990]

I did this very quickly just to try how this palette looks like.

[Anonymous No.3152991]

>>3152988
Caffeine is shit, anon, we've got to cut it. It's great with it, but when you don't got it, it's absolutely hell.

[Anonymous No.3152992]

>>3152473
take a reference picture, turn it upside down and copy that. it will make it hard to symbol-draw as youa re now, when you see where you can go by actually observing what you draw you will hopefully feel the motivation to get out of symbol drawing

on a side note: faces are arguably the hardest thing to draw, especially if you are stupid enough to try to learn from anime styled smooth faces, try whole body pictures or better, animals

>>3152565
impressive painting, horrible drawing. You have to go back (to practicing drawing -> precise placement of features)
also dont puss out, you have some really nice subtle colour changes in her face and your edges are getting there too, but for example look at her right (our left) shoulder and armpit, theres a hard edge which is very interesting in the original, you disregarded it, notice also the reflected light from her left boob illuminating her right boob

>>3152603
have you tried toning your paper beforehand, then you can add darks and erase for lighter areas
you didnt pay enough attention to the face, it seems you made stuff up you werent actually seeing
try squinting to blur your ref and your drawing to get the values better, they dont have to be on point, just in the correct relation to each other eg the shadow on his right cheeck should be way darker

>>3152620
im worse than you so not much input from me besides try starting to indicate form with simple values, even just two-tone cell shading, it can make your mistakes in terms of anatomy more noticable to you for guidance on what to study next

>>3152659
personal preference: be more bold with your brushstrokes, blend less, simplify dont render
very nice though

>>3152668
>How am I doing
You tell us, did you learn omething while drawing these?

>>3152688
"Construct" some heads using it and post those, not much point in memorizing guidelines if you are not using them to draw actual heads

[Anonymous No.3152994]

does this skin look right? having second thoughts on too much red

[Anonymous No.3152995]

>>3152829
Your observation game is strong, though am i correct in assuming you are jumping from spot to spot while painting? Streamline your process to be more organized.
Other than that the most obvious being your brushwork is very unrefined, some suggestions:
dont zig-zag to fill a plane, make a conscious decision which direction your ONE stroke should be going, use bigger brushes (forces you to stop and think on its own), indicate the form by following/wrapping around with each stroke

[Anonymous No.3153012]

Id like to hear any and all input i can get on me being stuck with painting.

When drawing the thing that clicked, the thing that made me instantly be able to recognize my mistakes and know what to study was finally "thinking in forms" as in 3D.

When painting i dont even know where to begin to understand the basics of how i could approach painting something realistic / believable from imagination.
When copying a reference im doing just that copying, i cant make sense of the colours and values i am seeing.

Pics related are an estimate on where i am right now (dont mind me pussing out on face and hands + feet, i even struggle with painting a skin coloured sphere right now).
The upper picture is from reference (dont know if 3dcg flatchested gets me banned here so censored), the bottom one is what my little knowledge of painting amounts to without a reference.

If anyone has an idea of what i am talking about and has some suggestions / exercises / tutorials / books that might help me itd be greatly appreciated.

[Anonymous No.3153014]

>>3152994
You are missing reflected lights, also if its too red you can always use the hue/saturation/brightness filter and change it up. I usually use purple red and brown on a multiply layer.

[Anonymous No.3153031]

>>3152113
This is as far as I get for now. Any feedback would be welcome.

[Anonymous No.3153053]

>>3152995
Thank you my friend. This advice helped a lot.

[Anonymous No.3153074]

[Anonymous No.3153076]

>>3152113

[Anonymous No.3153101]

Do these perspective lines and shit work when drawing people? All i've seen are examples of buildings or maybe people just standing straight up next to them

[Anonymous No.3153109]

>>3153101
lol boxes bro

[Anonymous No.3153113]

>>3153101
Cylinders are easier for people. Cube → Cylinder.

[Anonymous No.3153123]

>>3152624
I will make sure to work with your advice thank you very much

[Anonymous No.3153128]

So, I have some questions I hope someone can answer. For one, am I using layers right? I'm trying to use more layers since the pro's do it but I don't really know when to make a new one, especially in observational drawing.

Second, what is the best utilization of texture brushes? I was trying out some Kyle brushes for this study but I feel like I overdid it. I was using the dry and gouache brushes.

Any help appreciated.

Also, fuck this onion and its deceptive pinks

[Anonymous No.3153129]

>>3153128
wrong pic

[Anonymous No.3153131]

>>3153128
You shouldn't use more layers just because pro's do it, man.
Use the amount of layers You're comfortable with, even if it's less than 3! (More layers is just allowing more margin for errors)

[Anonymous No.3153132]

How do the japs reference cute anime girls doing cute things or cute anime girls flying through the air and shit.

[Anonymous No.3153135]

>>3153131
Thanks anon. When should I make a new layer / what goes on each layer?
I used to only use 1 layer when I used SAI, but since i'm taking it more seriously I feel like I should integrate layers and blending modes more.

[Anonymous No.3153136]

been drawing for a week and I have developed a twitch in my left eye. The fuck is that about? Does looking at lines actually strain your eyes?

[Anonymous No.3153137]

>>3153136
Not sure about your twitch, but drawing does strain my eyes. As does reading. Basically anything involving focus on a small thing on a flat surface close to my face.

[Anonymous No.3153138]

>>3153129
>>3153128
Sorry mate. I never drew or painted shit in my life so I will not be able to help you. What I am able to say is that I really fucking like your onion.

[Anonymous No.3153140]

>>3153031
Im just passing by so I dont know shit but thats noice.

[Anonymous No.3153145]

>>3153136
yeah when I worked on paper my eyes would often "shake" for a split second if I focused too much
dont know a better way to explain it or what its called but digital is much easier since you can zoom and shit

[Anonymous No.3153152]

>>3153145
Are you pressing your nose against the paper when drawing?

[Anonymous No.3153166]

>>3153136
I had a similar issue. I squinted a lot to block out detail for values and so on, but I noticed that my vision became more myopic after long sessions. Just zooming out for the same effect now.

[Anonymous No.3153184]

Loomis heads steadily improving

[Anonymous No.3153188]

critic please?

[Anonymous No.3153193]

>>3153188
What's with the deformed head?

[Anonymous No.3153195]

>>3153193
it's supposed to be a sharkgirl..

[Anonymous No.3153200]

>>3153188
>>3153195
The ear behind doesn't look like it's actually aligned with your attachment point given the angle of the head.
The far leg looks detached at the thigh.

[Anonymous No.3153201]

>>3153188
bretty gud, but it feels a little stiff, particulary the front leg. also the neck could be thicker

[Anonymous No.3153241]

Patience is the hardest part isn't it? I keep trying to rush the shit I don't understand and it is fucking me up.

[Anonymous No.3153243]

>>3153012
for a legit split second I thought this was literal cp

[Anonymous No.3153245]

>>3153241
yes
even the worst artist can make a masterpiece with endless time and effort

[Anonymous No.3153246]

>>3153241
Nah.

[Anonymous No.3153281]

>>3153241
It helps to draw shit that you actually like.
Kawacy said that they spent weeks polishing shit. (Ten hours is my absolute maximum, most is typically 5 hours.)

[Anonymous No.3153297]

>>3153281
Learning fundies so not really enjoying everything that I draw. Not a fan of drawing people but that seems to be the preferred way to learn proportions.

[Anonymous No.3153384]

how are these?

[Anonymous No.3153385]

>>3153384
What you'd expect from a beginner.

[Anonymous No.3153386]

>>3153384
Post refs

[Anonymous No.3153387]

>>3153297
What do you actually want do draw though? draw it. I don't understand you people grinding fundies for things you're not interested in

[Anonymous No.3153389]

>>3153385
bad?
>>3153386
from imagination

[Anonymous No.3153396]

>>3153387
Apart from the usual degenerate shit, a lot of things I guess. I don't have just one thing I want to know, I would rather learn how to draw in general so it is easier to go from thing to thing if that makes sense. I figure that is the whole point of fundamentals, because everything else is built on them. Takehiko Inoue still uses these same fundies even if my shit looks nothing like his right now. It gives me a reference point down the line that I can use to learn how to draw like him.

[Anonymous No.3153410]

i think i did pretty good

[Anonymous No.3153414]

>>3153410
>Michelin bod

[Anonymous No.3153448]

What am I supposed to be learning here? I tried to use cubes first. Does it look okay.

[Anonymous No.3153454]

>>3153448
You should learn about proportions first and how to correctly do them by going through keys to drawing. Apply every technique in there.

[Anonymous No.3153458]

>>3153454
Keys to drawing was boring. How bad are the proportions and is there something i could watch instead.

[Anonymous No.3153464]

okay guys i need your opinions. would it be more benefitial for me to do "Glenn Vilppu - the Vilppu Drawing Manual; Basic Figure Drawing" then "Michael Hampton - Figure Drawing, Design and Invention" or the other way around?

[Anonymous No.3153465]

>>3153458
Forget proportions, it will come with experience. Learn construction.

[Anonymous No.3153467]

>>3153464
Nigga we don't know you.

[Anonymous No.3153476]

>>3153465
Okay. I did make her out of boxes so i guess ill do it some more. Drawing an egg shape for the torso is really hard on a tablet.

[Anonymous No.3153480]

>>3153467
thank you for absolutely nothing, shitposter. luckily, there's another thread on /ic/ that seems to suggest hampton is a better starting point.

[Anonymous No.3153483]

>>3153480
It's really not.

[Anonymous No.3153488]

>>3153483
why are you being so cryptic? are you the same guy who responded to me before?

[Anonymous No.3153490]

>>3153488
No, different person.

[Anonymous No.3153492]

>>3153490
Not me.

[Anonymous No.3153496]

>>3153492
I already clarified I'm not you. Was your post necessary?

[Anonymous No.3153504]

>>3153490
well, the post in the other thread has a lot conflicting opinions replying to it. it's even inspired some vitriol, so i've already begun with vilppu.

[Anonymous No.3153522]

I'm not so much a beginner, i've been seriously committed to drawing for about two years. I know my fundamentals pretty ok, except perspective I cant draw a figure in prospective.
All that in mind I really want to up my game with some art books. I really want to know how to take classical anatomy ideas and implement them into character design.
I have my eye on to art books I really want to buy but I really can only get one for now. Which one do you guys think will most benefit me.
"Figure drawing: design and invention" by Michael Hampton
or
"Constructive anatomy" by George Bridgeman.

[Anonymous No.3153526]

>>3153522
>>3146236

[Anonymous No.3153535]

>>3153526
Thanks
I'm going to go and copy and paste my comment other there.

[Anonymous No.3153548]

>>3153535
Just download them and read some of both, buy whatever speaks the most to you.

[Anonymous No.3153551]

gah, I was a piece of shit these last 4 months and didn't draw anythin.

[Anonymous No.3153554]

>>3153551
ref

I threw her off balance and fucked up some proportions.

[Anonymous No.3153567]

>>3153554
Wouldn't be upset if you posted some more reference like this

[Anonymous No.3153571]

>>3153567
okay anon, I have a folder, mostly of pictures that I've stored from reference threads and past /beg/ threads

[Anonymous No.3153572]

>>3153571

[Anonymous No.3153574]

>>3153572

[Anonymous No.3153575]

>>3153574
I need to go do other shit now but here's one more

[Anonymous No.3153583]

@ reference anon, thanks for these ^

[Anonymous No.3153609]

>>3153448
>What am I supposed to be learning here?
Anatomy, you didn't really draw much of it though its still basic shapes.

[Anonymous No.3153611]

>>3152767
I'm giving up at hands, it is so tedious to make them look decently.

[Anonymous No.3153615]

>>3152767
What

[Anonymous No.3153618]

>>3152678
Is this furry on furry?

[Anonymous No.3153623]

>>3152110
How do you tilt the picture plane?

[Anonymous No.3153681]

Hahaha, Ruan's my bitch now.

[Anonymous No.3153692]

>>3153571
an attempt was made.

[Anonymous No.3153759]

random sketches

[Anonymous No.3153773]

>>3153389

Gesture -> Construction -> Anatomy

Learn and understand before moving on to the next one.

Do gesture until you understand it then add in construction into the process. Once you grasp the process of going from gesture to construction and have a decent understanding of building the figure construction you move on to anatomy.

Use ref for this practice or live model if you can.

Do not learn everything all at once or skip the process. This is the fundamentals. Once you grasp this you'll be able to skip steps and maybe add your own twist to it.

[Anonymous No.3153777]

>>3152669

You can't. It's talent.

[Anonymous No.3153798]

>>3153448
Id say one can learn about gesture, but you fucked it by not drawing the feet. No matter how crappy they turn out, at least indicate them with simple triangles or some shit, it makes so much difference wheather a figure is planted on the ground or floating on the paper.
You want to someday make it? Exterminate those bad habits like some kind of nazi pest controller.

No it doesnt look okay and whatever you did you did not use boxes. Id suggest drop human figures for a while, get yourself something more abstract which your brain is not used to fuck up by interpreting - for example some kind of bulky beetles, crabs or something similar (they are all pretty much basic forms stacked together) and draw those things using boxes / cylinders etc
With animals you tend to not be so picky about every mistake and you start focusing on the construction part.
Once you get less overwhelmed by 3d forms give the human figure a try.

Pic related, give it a try.

[Anonymous No.3153823]

how's she look so far /beg/, working from imagination but I can't see anything right at the moment and I'll KO right after I post
>tfw you realize a part is horribly done and fix it
not that its great but certainly better I think
I'm a really slow worker, does speeding up come with practice as well
and thanks to the anon who suggested a method to line/clean over sketches a couple days ago

[Anonymous No.3153842]

>>3153798
Okay here's my crab.

[Anonymous No.3153850]

>>3153842
ok but what would it look like if you actually tried

[Anonymous No.3153852]

>>3153850
What

[Anonymous No.3153856]

>>3153842
Now get down and do more. Dont come back until you have 10 more.
And may the sweet mother marie have mercy on you if i dont see the construction lines of the boxes in the next ten pictures.
THE BOXES MAGGOT, WHERE ARE THEY?

[Anonymous No.3153874]

hows my baby dinosaur and baby dragon?

[Anonymous No.3153878]

>>3152665
Today's study. I think my monitors colors are fucked. Probs going to need a new monitor. Any recommendations? Price prefs < 500.

[Anonymous No.3153907]

>>3153878
self-critique

[Anonymous No.3153909]

>>3153874
They are 5min scibbles. What do you expect we think about them?

[Anonymous No.3153915]

>>3153878
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ this site is usefull

[Anonymous No.3153916]

>>3152829
Hello I'm this guy. I wanted to update with my brushstroke stuff. Is this an improvement? Also, I have to ask, how are you supposed to layout the paint? Is it piece by piece or go at it value by value? Basically I'm asking how do you organize what to paint first? I'm a little confused on that portion. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.3153919]

>>3153878
Any IPS screen will give you vivid colors.

[Anonymous No.3153921]

>>3153919
I have a tn monitor atm. Guess I'll have to upgrade. Should I get 1440p if I have a medium sized tablet?

[Anonymous No.3153926]

>>3153916
hey dude. Try making lineart first, then block the colors in, then do shading.

[Anonymous No.3153940]

my first coloring

what do u think

[Anonymous No.3153965]

>>3153909
took me an hour to do :(

[Anonymous No.3153967]

>>3153965
Im that much of a begginer

[Anonymous No.3153983]

>>3153967
Then draw more until you can scribble that in 5 mins.

[Anonymous No.3154014]

>>3153916
This >>3152995 and this >>3153012 btw.

Hard to tell, though like before it is very convincing as thumbnail - your values seem right.
This picture has not so much intriguing colour variety.
Is it from imagination or reference? You should have rearranged the scene so that more of his face would be illuminated to create interest there.

Have you tried painting the same thing multiple times / the last picture again? Its boring to do the same thing again but you will have the best comparison that way.

I am struggling with this myself so you dont want to take my advice as the absolute truth.

Obviosly your zig-zagging is gone and the strokes are following the form and stand out less - this imo makes the painting look more boring and less "virtuos". Though i think and hope this will turn back around once one is profound with stroke economy.

When using strokes consciously one also needs to start making decisions about edges. In your previous picture there is so much going on, one accepts this "mess" of strokes as edges (very interesting edges at that).
In the second the hard edge between light and dark on the arm work well with this hard single point light source, on the other hand i would blend the transitions on his cheek and temple more.
Although dont go over board with blending everywhere as it will end up rendered into a blurry mess.

[Anonymous No.3154026]

>>3154014
cont.

>Also, I have to ask, how are you supposed to layout the paint?
I face the same problem as you right now. There is the "chinese hack" where you blend low opacity layers over countless low opacity layers. There is the "autist" (in literal sense) where one puts down the right colour at the right spot and never paint over it again.

Heres where i stand: When drawing one constructs the basic form and add / carve out details, in painting i try to gauge which areas are the easiest to do with one stroke, and which areas i need either a very small brush OR place one big stroke, and then the next colour over that only leaving the actual shape of the first stroke visible.

Its hard to explain but theres an exercise that forces you to have a well planned layout.
Take a picture of a tomato or plum or stuff like that, simple shape but very delicate colour/value changes.
Try to paint it with as few strokes as possible. You can colour pickt at first, though its better practice if you try to eyeball and mix the colours without a colour picker.
Then try to paint the same thing with less strokes. Then again. If you are really gud you can do it in less than 10. Pic related two of mine, though still messy. I am currently working on more of these, ill post as soon as im finished.

As i said, im struggling with this myself right now, if you can help ME with that please do lol

[Anonymous No.3154027]

>>3154014
>>3154026

This >>3152995 and this >>3153012 me* btw

[Anonymous No.3154028]

>>3154026
What are you doing with that color palette? Why do you even have it?

[Anonymous No.3154055]

lol

[Anonymous No.3154069]

geez

[Anonymous No.3154070]

>>3154069
Are you even trying?

[Anonymous No.3154073]

>>3154014
It''s mostly from imagination. I did use some reference for the anatomy i.e. looking at myself in the mirror. The lighting was something I figured out just testing. I've gained tons of knowledge and motivation from people like you at /ic/. I humbly thank you for giving me crit. Here's another painting of the same character but I tried to make it a bit more interesting.
>>3154014
Do you have a blog or something?

[Anonymous No.3154082]

rate

[Anonymous No.3154084]

>>3154070
what are you saying

[Anonymous No.3154085]

[Anonymous No.3154090]

rate

[Anonymous No.3154094]

Hey, art material question here.

I've been using conte crayons a lot recently. They're nice but I feel like I wear out a piece (I use a third of a stick) after an 1-2 hours or so of drawing. It's kind of frustrating because I have to interrupt what I'm doing, get a new piece and wear it down before returning to what I'm doing.

Does Conte a Paris make thiccer versions of the crayon? Is there a similar medium that is thicker? I'm looking for something about the size and dimensions of jumbo General's compressed charcoals.

[Anonymous No.3154097]

>>3154090
2/10.

Draw bigger.

[Anonymous No.3154100]

>>3154094
You're asking the wrong thread >>3141491

[Anonymous No.3154101]

the more i practice, the more i want to analyze and feel the forms in every object and face that i see. does it ever stop?

[Anonymous No.3154103]

>>3154090
i think you should kill yourself desu nee

[Anonymous No.3154104]

>>3154090
>graph paper
>10x10 size

die

draw bigger on proper paper.

[Anonymous No.3154113]

>>3154103
yeah i think i should too.
>>3154097
>>3154104
tfw u are bored on class and don't have any other shit to do...

[Anonymous No.3154114]

Can someone explain how you can view the front and side plane of an object in one point perspective? If the object is tilted so you can see the side plane doesn't the front plane have to be tilted (thus creating a second vp) as well? How can it remain a perfect square or rectangle?
Am I retarded or am I missing something here
pic from google

[Anonymous No.3154123]

Should I be trying to study and draw the neck if I don't intend to connect it to the torso? I feel like the lack of a torso is inhibiting my ability to think of perspective now that I'm thinking about it.

[Anonymous No.3154125]

>>3154114
> If the object is tilted so you can see the side plane doesn't the front plane have to be tilted (thus creating a second vp) as well?

Yes. That picture is shit and makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.3154129]

>>3154114
Vanishing points are just directions. 1 point perspective means that of the 6 directions of a cube one goes straight forward and the other ones go 90° degrees up, down, left, right, and 180° behind you so they'll never hit the image plane no matter how big it is.
Imagine your eye being impaled with 3 infinitely long rods. Where they meet the paper you have a vanishing point.

[Anonymous No.3154130]

>>3152858
>>3152855
So there is no specific technique or way to grab the pen that is particular to nib pens? Any sort of general tip? I am completely at a loss, don't even understsand the physics of it.

Should I grab it kinda sideways? Should I twist my wrist so it doesn't scratch or keep it straight? No youtube videos on this?

[Anonymous No.3154132]

>>3154114
Everything is relative to your camera.
In one point perspective every face of a square facing you remains square because it is an approximation of perspective.
It is also this way because every shape is not rotated, perpendicular to your center of vision.
The horizon line is not shown because it is infinitely off screen.
Hope this helps.

>>3154125
You're very helpful.

[Anonymous No.3154133]

>>3154125
What.

[Anonymous No.3154134]

>>3154129
It is also helpful to point out that each box has its own set of vanishing points, and to draw them in perspective you have to work out the vanishing points for each box on your perspective grid.

[Anonymous No.3154135]

Anyone ever used these Prismacolor markers? I'm thinking about getting them, maybe the 32 or 40 something color one. Copics are too expensive, and the other brands I find here look like absolute shit for kids.

Are these good enough to git gud at marker coloring? My goal is to do cell shading traditionally.

[Anonymous No.3154151]

>>3154114
Literally asking why is one point perspective not two point perspective.
One point perspective doesn't exist in reality, it's done because it's the easiest way to give any sense of depth.

[Anonymous No.3154157]

>>3154151
>One point perspective doesn't exist in reality

[Anonymous No.3154158]

>>3154132
I'm not sure I follow you on any of those points.
>approximation of perspective
So one point perspective isn't actually accurate it's just lazy two point?
>The horizon line is not shown because it is infinitely off screen.
Do you mean the vanishing point?
What makes the box in one point perspective in your image different from the lower right box in the two point image? From what angle do you have to look at something in one point perspective for it to change to two point?

Sorry for all the questions and thanks for the help you gave anyway.

[Anonymous No.3154160]

>>3154157
Yeah, that's right.

[Anonymous No.3154161]

>>3154158
>So one point perspective isn't actually accurate it's just lazy two point?
Nigger just doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Anonymous No.3154162]

I always wondered why I can't improve, then I realize why.
Because I never actually cared about the medium, I just wanted attention and praise. I kept trying to get gud when I didn't really care about getting gud in the first place. And over time, I just strived to improve, but never did because I never did or wanted to read the material or go on boring youtube channels.

In other words, I've been deluding myself just to get something in return, and now that I realize that, I think I'm going to stop till I'm actually interested in art.

[Anonymous No.3154163]

>>3154157
it seems to exist in blender

[Anonymous No.3154165]

>>3152364
Rotate and resize, symbol boy.

[Anonymous No.3154167]

Help!!!!

[Anonymous No.3154172]

>>3154167
Learn planes of the face.

[Anonymous No.3154176]

>>3154162
well you need inspiration.. IMO you need to consume more visual arts..

if you wanna draw comics read more comics, if you wanna be a concept artist look up more and more concept art, the process of how it's miade, etc

gotta love it or ngmi senpai

[Anonymous No.3154186]

>>3154151
>one point perspective doesn't exist in reality
It does you retard. The problem is that it exists within a very small range. I'm pretty sure Scott Robertson even makes note of this.

[Anonymous No.3154188]

>>3154186
Except it doesn't unless your field of view is a single infinitessimal point. Don't embarass yourself

[Anonymous No.3154189]

>>3154188
I can't even tell if this is supposed to be a troll or not.

[Anonymous No.3154191]

>>3154055
didn't someone already tell you that swimsuits aren't made out of clay faggot

[Anonymous No.3154193]

1/2 Perspective practice.

[Anonymous No.3154195]

2/2

[Anonymous No.3154200]

How important is drawing from life, am I missing something that can only be learned from seeing things in a real 3d space.

[Anonymous No.3154206]

whats a good order to read loomis in ?

[Anonymous No.3154226]

From Tuesday's figure drawing class. I think I'm doing okay in terms of accurately judging proportion and such (at least in comparison to the rest of the class) but next week we're starting on tonal drawings, where we're not even supposed to draw an outline, and I have no idea how to do that with charcoal. Is there anything in particular I should work on in order to prepare, or should I just try to experiment with the medium using photo references?

[Anonymous No.3154230]

>>3154188
Go lay on a train track and look down the track. That is one point perspective my dude, now do yourself a favor and don't get off the track.

[Anonymous No.3154232]

>>3152442
Interesting how you force lines which do not exist into your pic. You're in a weird limbo between symbols and values, and you need to stop thinking of 'areas which contain a color or value' and start learning to make them fluid. It seems you are incapable of creating a smooth gradient. You could outline large regions in this drawing which would contain the EXACT same shade throughout, rather than having the different shadows 'interact'.

I have no clue what is going on with the eyes, and that weird thing you have outlined around them.

[Anonymous No.3154237]

What did i do wrong, and how do i stop being shit ?

[Anonymous No.3154240]

does this make sense
I kind of lost it at the face

[Anonymous No.3154243]

>>3154237
B L O C K I N
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[Anonymous No.3154244]

>>3154240
Wrinkles to jacket to show torque maybe

[Anonymous No.3154263]

>>3154230
Except the railroad ties get smaller as they go away from the middle of the middle. So does everything else. If you honestly believe you live in some kind of imaginary 2D world, work on your life drawing more.

You probably think this is something you'd be able to see in reality.

[Anonymous No.3154270]

Hey guys ! working on this for a time and need feed back on the music app that i want to make. the pink ripple suppose to represent the time of music when the song is completed, it will reach the screen top. you can seek the song by vertical drag of ripple.

[Anonymous No.3154271]

>>3154270
>>>/gd/

[Anonymous No.3154273]

>>3154263
>meanwhile giving a terrible example with a picture that was done by a 14 year olds first lesson on 1 pt perspective

[Anonymous No.3154287]

>>3154263
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.3154291]

>>3154028
I mixed the colours from it. I just have it to limit the colours that i have as i get overwhelmed when chosing colours very easily. This way i have less choices and can focus on the relationships between the colours and laying strokes instead of getting lost on my way to get the colours perfectly right.

>>3154073
Not really, i did have a blog where i posted very irregularly (most recent picture maybe from three months back) and write down dreams that i had, its mostly dead now desu - though i do plan on getting a homepage / hosting a gallery somewhere when i feel im ready for raking in that mad cash with commissions.

[Anonymous No.3154340]

Drew my first face

[Anonymous No.3154350]

This is like consistently the most depressing thread on the board. You're all so bad and none of you ever improve. Has anyone from here ever gotten better?

[Anonymous No.3154351]

This is like consistently the most uplifting thread on the board. You all will be so good one day and improve quickly. Has anyone from here ever doubted themselves?

[Anonymous No.3154353]

>>3154350
>>3154351
>post looking for critiques
>no replies
how am I suppose to get better and not doubt myself if I can't get a second, often better look at my work

[Anonymous No.3154355]

>>3154353
Sometimes it's hard to tell if someone is on the right path when they've barely started walking. Let yourself wander for a while and just improve what you want to draw.

Posts with no replies are usually so awful they don't deserve a response or basic enough that even a complete beginner can get it completely right.

[Anonymous No.3154356]

>>3154353
>no replies
Link to post.

[Anonymous No.3154362]

>>3154353
I like to think I'm doing something right if no one can come up with something negative to say.

[Anonymous No.3154366]

Crit on the shoulder? Something about the shoulder is really off and I don't know what.

[Anonymous No.3154377]

>>3154366
Your deltoid just rotates with the shoulder, but the clavicle doesn't simply move to the back. You gotta remember the insertions.

[Anonymous No.3154393]

>>3154377
Alright thanks, I think I got it.

[Anonymous No.3154409]

>>3154240
Really bad. Whole pose lacks tension and movement of ref and your right arm looks like genetic mutation. It's too soon for you to draw clothes, hair and shit.

[Anonymous No.3154410]

>>3154366
I cant draw shoulders for shit but. your neck and scull is off.

Ass too fat)

[Anonymous No.3154415]

>>3154410
>Ass too fat
not possible

[Anonymous No.3154418]

beginner following loomis style heads. nevermind the noses . did i do the ears right?

[Anonymous No.3154438]

I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna go outside and draw stuff

[Anonymous No.3154463]

I don't feel confident enough to draw anything anymore

Not only will whatever I draw come out bad, but I won't learn enough from my mistakes to improve properly

Feels bad man

[Anonymous No.3154499]

>>3154463
Do like me and try to outright copy what you like, it might make things a little more enjoyable

[Anonymous No.3154654]

>>3154463
once you learn observation you become able to make things that are pretty good (at least somewhat aesthetic and not disgusting) just by copying from reference. at this point it also becomes what you are supposed to do to improve. it is at this stage that the process of improving at art becomes anything other than absolute suffering.

[Anonymous No.3154676]

>>3154418
They are in the correct position between the brow and nose line, if you are looking for anymore criticism then that I'd recommend you study actual ears to get better form and details.

[Anonymous No.3154683]

what's the best books for shading/anatomy?

[Anonymous No.3154694]

>>3154683
>books
I posted some awesome books in the book thread. I have been slacking off on posting new shit everyday but I will post some anatomy stuff soon. There's a good one on pencil shading techniques there.

[Anonymous No.3154695]

>>3154409
Would you mind redlining with gesture lines? It would really help me out. I pulled the arms from a reference someone posted for me last thread so its not completely based on that reference. The clothing and hair I just kind of stuck on because I've just been drawing only nude figures recently and it's been getting to me

[Anonymous No.3154696]

>>3154654
>tfw tried to skip to this stage and suffered for a whole year

[Anonymous No.3154699]

>>3154409
>too soon for you to draw clothes, hair and shit.
That is fucking retarded. Art doesn't work like that, quit giving advice.

[Anonymous No.3154700]

how long should it generally take for figure drawing to "make sense"? i can tell what the model was doing when i look at mine, but they aren't neat and really just look like shitty sketches to me.

[Anonymous No.3154705]

>>3154700
example

[Anonymous No.3154708]

>>3154705
doesn't make sense because you're not making sense of it

[Anonymous No.3154710]

>>3154700
32.7 minutes.

[Anonymous No.3154711]

>>3154705
There is no defined time limit, at the end people only care about the end product just be aware that time is the most valuable asset you have.

[Anonymous No.3154716]

>>3154700
To draw decent figures you need to have an advanced grasp of perspective, anatomy, proportion, and have the muscle memory to draw the lines you want to draw. Animators are always the best at creating figures, Aaron Blaise has good youtube videos, or you can obtain Vilppu's videos.

The gesture is an important step in a drawing, but it should be one of the last things you learn as a beginner, which is confusing since a lot of books will start with the gesture for some reason. If you have a pet cat or something try drawing them while they are playing, you'll be forced to quickly make a gesture to capture the action in the moment, an you might be able to understand WHY you need gestures better.

[Anonymous No.3154728]

Any image/video tutorials for differentiating the midsection of the body from the hips/pelvis? Right now all of my girls are just kind of hourglass curves; and although animatic production probably makes "muh style" a stronger defense than it usually is I'd prefer to get proper construction on it.

Also tell me the proper terminology for it because I can't stand feeling like a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.3154729]

>>3154716
thank you for actually giving useful feedback.

i'm using quickposes.com to force me to do them quickly. hopefully, in the next few hours, this will click with me.

[Anonymous No.3154730]

someone?

[Anonymous No.3154731]

>>3154730

[Anonymous No.3154733]

>>3154731
Exaggerate further, they look dynamic but you didn't match them in just how much potential energy they had,

[Anonymous No.3154742]

hows dexter and daxter? drawn from reference

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3154745]

hi, arms to short as always, prob not a good idea to draw with pen when I succ at drawing anatomy.

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3154746]

>>3154745
edgy doodle.

(guy at the bottom is supposed to be trump, that why he got tiny hands)

[Anonymous No.3154749]

>>3154731
I tried to do some.
Keep in mind you are basically just drawing the figure interacting with gravity, so make sure he is balanced. Drawing the feet, head and hands first is a bit easier.

[Anonymous No.3154755]

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3154759]

>>3154755
looks pretty good man, resize it though.

[Anonymous No.3154765]

>>3154745
Haha look at that tiny little axe, so cute.

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3154767]

>>3154765
its about how you use it !

[Anonymous No.3154784]

anyone else super lazy. i just draw what i feel is close enough

[Anonymous No.3154807]

Neck studies, ignore face construction, I was just messing around.

[Anonymous No.3154847]

>>3154742
are copys allowed?

[Anonymous No.3154860]

Lost of hands

[Anonymous No.3154861]

>>3154860
Lots*

[Anonymous No.3154867]

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