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What lessons have you taken away from /ic/?

>> No.3137324

All of them, good and bad. /ic/ is truly the place of learning as opposed to school where they asspat you.

>> No.3137329
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3137329

Reposting the most important piece of advice I've gotten. Looking back I was so blind to many basic fundamental rules of painting.

>> No.3137331

>>3137329
I could have sworn I saw this a few weeks ago, but it's been a year already. Jesus Christ.

>> No.3137333

>>3137329
>A shift in value is a shift in plane

Fuck this alone I need to be reminded of all the time

>> No.3137339

>>3137321
stop being a pussy and shade that shit

no lines, only changes in value

>> No.3137357

>>3137321
everyone here is basically squidward in that episode. Think they know everything but can't draw for shit.

>> No.3137365

>>3137357
>tfw only just realized Squidward is a talentless guy who wants to make it as an artist and musician but is stuck working at his day job where it's soul crushing
That explains so much now, it's no wonder he's grumpy all the time.

>> No.3137394

>>3137321
to never take advice from /ic/

>> No.3137401
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>>3137394
>>3137357
this tbqhwyn

>> No.3137402

>>3137321
I'm never gonna make it.

>> No.3137410
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>>3137321
If someone replies to you out of spite that means you are doing something right.

>> No.3137426

>>3137394
>>3137401

They can hardly draw what is in front of them without ADHD-riddled linework.

If you're here for the books, you're in good place. Lurk a while, take note of what bait threads come up every few week without miss, and stay the fuck away from those.

>> No.3137427
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3137427

Don't try to make something look pretty if your anatomy is shit, Pic related was me a couple of months ago.

>> No.3137431

>>3137427
Cute! You should make more pretty things even if your anatomy is shit anon!

>> No.3137434

>>3137321
Don't try to get advice from /ic/, the people who give helpful redlines and paintovers are only a myth.

>> No.3137443

>>3137321
This might sound cynical, and it is, but I've learned that /ic/ is THE worst site I've ever been too for artists to get together and help each other. Probably because it's a part of 4chan.

In my experience it's almost nothing but people who don't know how to draw, insulting people who are actually trying to learn.

And if you're actually advanced? You're pretty turned off by coming here. I'm pretty advanced and instantly, within like one visit here, I was like wow the people are so awful here I prefer just drawing with people on /i/ than to come here and get the typical 4chan treat other people like garbage just because they exist.

Not only that, but you can't even give advice on here without getting crapped on. Almost every time I've answered an OP's question someone else has to insult my post just because it's actually written with full sentences, and they didn't even read what I wrote - when they could just ignore it.

For a while I was giving critiques on here with actual pen and drawing over top, that's about the only thing I didn't get a ton of bullcrap from other people from, because it's harder to ignore a visual critique actually being helpful/useful. And at least the person who receives it seems to usually be happy.

So yah, I guess my ultimate lesson is. If you want to teach a bunch of teenagers or people who ACT like teenagers, how to draw, and you do it with redline, and you really know what you're doing, you will be treated 'okay' here.

But if you actually want to RECEIVE help back, or help people by typing words in response to their questions, don't bother, you'll be treated like garbage for actually taking the time to put thought and effort into it.

Overall advice, DON'T use /ic/ go anywhere else. Try looking for an art community or something.

Sorry for the cynicism. I'm sure there are some good points here, but the bad attitudes faaar outweigh any benefit of staying here, I think perhaps. At least for me personally.

>> No.3137448

>>3137324

Why can't you name any then?

>> No.3137452

>>3137443
We already told you to leave, Dunning-kruger fag, you're not helping anyone by giving your sound BUT ignorant advice.

>> No.3137454

>>3137452
?

>> No.3137455

>>3137431
Thanks, making cute drawings is my end goal atm, but I need to make them look good first.

>> No.3137462

>>3137452
Are you making an ironic joke, by doing exactly what was said in the post you're replying to?

Also what do you mean by both sound, and ignorant? Is that a part of the joke? (If it's a joke.)

>> No.3137465

>>3137321
The people who are skilled and know what they're talking about hardly post. The people who are unskilled and don't know what they're talking about post all the time, nosebro for example.

It seems the board is frequented most by people who are here for the social aspect than to actually practice art or critique art in any meaningful/constructive way. The board is small enough to where it's turned into a clique. Like >>3137443 said, people here act like teenagers.

This place has been great for resources though and the occasional decent critique.

>> No.3137470

>>3137452
Hey, guy who calls everyone dunning-kruger, no one is thrilled with your advice either. You can maybe actually write real advice instead of trashing other people, or trashing the same people over and over again because you have an obsessive hate-on for them.

>> No.3137474

>>3137443
Where would you recommend one go? Especially for something as helpful as drawing over work/redlines/etc.

>> No.3137476

>>3137474
Sycra forums

>> No.3137480

Consider, don't ignore or be defined by, all criticism

Study from the exact people you dream to be like and who they studied from

Get good enough materials that you aren't fighting with them

Practice as much as you can - so many people say they could have when they had more time

>> No.3137481

>>3137474
Well, it depends. My actual suggestion would be to hook up with artists as friends, so a place like iscribble is a good place to get together with people and draw.

There are a lot of kids there but a lot of experienced artists too, and I've always found that more helpful and motivating, to draw with other people.

It keeps you drawing, keeps you having fun, and you can choose your friends, there is far less venom than on 4chan.

If you want straight up critique, ConceptArt.org used to be good, but I haven't been there in a few years.

You'll probably have to do some searching yourself.

My best advice would be to try and make friends with artists - and for that an anonymous place like here is obviously not a good choice.

When I have questions about my art, I go to skype and ask my artist friends, more often than not. But I met those friends at places like iscribble, or in real life, or etc.

So pick a drawing community you like and make some friends, even deviant art, if you can find and make friends who are more advanced than you there, or equal.

People underestimate how important kindness/attitude is especially here on 4chan, but the attitude here is toxic, you're far less likely to improve. Instead hang out with people who are inspiring, and encouraging.

>> No.3137483
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>>3137476
not me

>> No.3137485
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>>3137481
>hook up with artists as friends

>> No.3137489

>>3137485
its sound advice, especially if you can find someone in person, they can point stuff out easier but even online it works. actually to be honest, even people who aren't artists can often help correct your work, regular people can see 'something's wrong' and that can take you farther than you'd think and you get all that help with none of the headache of having to hear the crap people say on here because they're anon

>> No.3137492

>>3137489
Oh I know it's sound advice. I just suck cock at building rapport with people.

>> No.3137494

>>3137443
oh youre the guy i told to stop drawing and start writing arent you. lel

>>3137465
post your work though

>> No.3137495

>>3137492
Well, here's my point. If I met you anywhere but 4chan, I'd be happy to add you on skype and help redline for you sometimes, or at least point things out to you.

But I can't and won't because it's dangerous to give any personal info on here for even a split second.

So that's why i say find a different community and hang around. If you can survive 4chan you won't have a problem with rapport with people on tamer sites, I should think.

>> No.3137496

>>3137480
Yes.

This makes sense.

ANYho.

>>3137494
No, that's not me, are YOU insane!

See what I'm talking about? /ic/ is just FULL with people like this.

>> No.3137497

>>3137494
haha I don't know, I don't remember you saying that but I do know who you are from months and months ago.

I almost never come on /ic/ (for the reasons I stated above). Besides a little bit this week, I thinkt he last time I was here was a few months ago.

I just came because my friend wasn't online and I wanted quick advice about a drawing, I got no advice, which I should have expected, so I just hung around talking a bit, and I'll probably be gone by tomorrow or something.

>> No.3137499

>>3137494

I'm not >>3137496. I don't know why they answered you as me, but they did. My reply/the real reply was >>3137497.

>> No.3137502

>>3137496
they're just forcing you to stop namefagging nosey

>> No.3137509
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>>3137502
>>3137499
im glad these people are on drugs, but he should at least put my name in the header so i understand his tomfoolery.

>> No.3137522
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>>3137443

To me /ic/ is that abusive spouse. They treat you like shit but there are good moments so you keep coming back. It's a terrible cycle.

>> No.3137539

>>3137321
Shitposting ability is directly related to drawing skill

>> No.3137560

>>3137321
I hate nosebro more than anybody else in the whole world.

>> No.3137572

>>3137560
im saddened to hear that, as i believe us to be soulmates.

>> No.3137573

>>3137443
r e d d i t

s p a c i n g

>> No.3137592

>>3137483
I feel like I have seen this one for atleast 10 times. Hard to say if it's really you Nosebro.

>> No.3137643
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>>3137592
this is the first fucking time ive posted that one though!

>> No.3137647

>>3137321
If you're serious about drawing, you're going to need some skin.

>> No.3137650
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>>3137321

>> No.3137654
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>> No.3137656
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3137656

business advice

>> No.3137658
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3137658

this one about 'finishing a thing' is more personal, I found it super helpful.

>> No.3137668

>>3137650
I've been wanting to learn how to draw for like 5 years now and every time I always had the mindset being criticized in this screenshot and it resulted in me giving up a week or so in. I only realized this like 2 months ago and getting over that shit has let me get into the habit of practicing every day and not hating myself every time I touch a pencil. This is good advice please take this screenshots advice

>> No.3137737

>>3137485
Like drawing, making friends becones easier the more you do it.

>> No.3137811

>>3137321
I've learned to not take many of the posters here seriously...

>> No.3137813

>>3137394
Don't get me wrong, there are RARELY folks with advice that's worth taking on this board but, yeah. Most are just really pretentious and don't know shit about shit.

>> No.3137902
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>>3137321

1.-Trust nobody, not even ya' self.
2.-AVOID the Noid
3.-Nobody better lay a finger on MY Butterfinger
4.-Once you go Black, you never come back
5.-when in doubt... pinky out!

And many more.

>> No.3137906

>>3137813

I just come here to shitpost?

>> No.3137930

>>3137539
Yah, as a negative correlation.

>> No.3137935
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>>3137494

>> No.3137936

>>3137573
Markdown doesn't come from reddit. Ignore it.

>> No.3137939

>>3137573
You know what's worse than reddit spacing? Posts with no content.

>> No.3138059

>>3137321
Be insecure and pretentious as possible because I can't draw I can only say someones proportions arent right here on 4chan

>> No.3138187

>>3137573
Solid refutation

>> No.3138199

>>3137427
post something from now to see your gains. the main problem with that one isn't anatomy, it's symbol drawing.

>> No.3138200

>>3138199
>anon draws a stylized figure
>dunning krueger memes symbol drawing
Holy shit, learn the difference already. You're only embarrassing yourself.

>> No.3138502

In the Game of /ic/, you make it or you die.

>> No.3138792

>>3137321

" Drawing is like sculpting on a 2D surface". - Anon

This shit blew my mind.

>> No.3138794

>>3138792
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC3OxonJcXQ

>> No.3138796
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>>3137321

>> No.3138799

>>3138796
You could at least include his fucking name in there.

>> No.3138806

>>3138799
It's not my screen, and i saved it way before, do you know who this is?

>> No.3138818

>>3138794
Get this shit of me, exactly this fucked me up when I was starting out.

>> No.3138828

>>3138794
lmao, why do all these art youtubers sound like they are about to burst into tears? Is it poor nutrition, or just the toxic paint fumes taking their toll?

>> No.3138849

>>3138828
For me he sounds like he knows some dirty secret about me and trying not to burst into laughing beacuse of that.

>> No.3138852

>>3137427
And you're here giving advice why?

>> No.3138855

>>3138852
Because OP asked for lessons I've learned from /ic/, if pleople listen to my post, good for them, but that wasn't the point behind my post.

>> No.3138866

>>3137443
>In my experience it's almost nothing but people who don't know how to draw, insulting people who are actually trying to learn.
based d/ic/ks working pinhead redditors into a shoot

>> No.3138870

/ic/ was good in the sense that it pointed me in the right direction for study material and books.
No real lesson learned here but it is a useful place when it comes to finding other content.

>> No.3138930

>>3137443
Ironically, YOU are the one who is acting the most like a teenager here, with your entitled narcissistic opinions and expectations of other people.

>> No.3138947
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3138947

>when /ic/ buys and shares you a whole bunch of cool stuff

>> No.3138954

hide every thread that is shitposting, "this popular artist is shit" tirades, and /ic/ meta threads and it can be really nice.

>> No.3139002
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3139002

Freelancing advice.

>> No.3139003

>>3138947
I hope you realize in that picture that one of them is defiling the other which perfectly describes /ic/

>> No.3139017

>>3137443
I only come here for general art discussion or software/hardware/tool advice and references/tutorials and save the recieving or giving critique for artists i actually know who aren't on an anonymous chinese cartoon image board

>> No.3139019

>>3137321
That even if you're Stan Prokopenko, you're not good enough for the cucks here

>> No.3139128

>>3138930
I fail to see how giving your opinion and advice based on your own experience to the OP when that's what they're asking for on the OP is narcissistic.

My actual goal is to be helpful. not to self aggrandise. If my opinion is wrong or imperfect that doesn't make me a bad person - just makes me human. I have the courage to actually give my opinion knowing people are going to be cruel to me for even trying to help, and knowing that even though I could be wrong, people will mistreat me over even trying.

And then called 'entitled' just because I shared an opinion you didn't agree with.. I just don't get it.

If you shared your feelings and opinion to try and help someone else you'd get treated the same way you're treating me. It's not because there's anything wrong with you in my opinion its just because for whateverr eason I think you want to tear other people down.

And that's what I find to be teenager like. It's just anger for angers sake. If you didn't like how a post was worded, why wouldn't you just ignore it? Especially since there's no evidence in my post that I'm actually doing anything wrong, just trying by best to answer the OP.

If you don't like how I talk, or who I am, it's not my fault, and I can't change just for you. I'm trying my best, why do you have to cut me down?

I really wish more people were understanding online, even though this is 4chan, I assume you're still human.

>> No.3139131

>>3137321
Don't listen to anyone but yourself, everyone else is a bullshitter.

>> No.3139138

Learning perspective is the ULTIMATE symbol drawing killer, if you want to get good, there's no get around perspective.

Appealing to look at art is way more important than technically proficient.

It's a bad idea to start drawing anime at the very beginning

Making things harder for yourself for arbitrary reasons is retarded

Try to look at your art as if it were made by someone else while you scroll past in social media. Is it eye-catching? Is it different? Is it good?

Self-criticism is more important than that one of others, what others provide is advice, not critique, you should already feel like what you do is not good enough if you want to improve.

>> No.3139212

>>3137321
any oldfags who can shed light on their experience from /ic/ and how it compares to the rest of 4chan?

>> No.3139251

>>3137443
>>3139128
The trick is that no one here actually hates you, senpai. Most people on here are just fooling around and shitposting for fun, besides enganging in helpful discussion. Just don't take what people post here so seriously.

Also, don't forget that you're never ignored. There are lots of people that are captivated by your posts without replying back too.

It seems like you're just new here.

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>>3139138
>Making things harder for yourself for arbitrary reasons is retarded

FUCKKKING THISSSSS

>> No.3139264

>>3139138
>>3139253
>>Making things harder for yourself for arbitrary reasons is retarded
I've been struggling with this for a while. And I guess you're right, senpai. That applies every fucking where.

>> No.3139267

>>3137481
>and for that an anonymous place like here is obviously not a good choice.
But we're all friends here, you dumb Anon.
Besides, encouraging isn't really going to help, unless you're doing art for self-acceptance instead of actually liking to do art.

>> No.3139329

>>3139267
I said:
>People underestimate how important kindness/attitude is especially here on 4chan, but the attitude here is toxic, you're far less likely to improve. Instead hang out with people who are inspiring, and encouraging.

Meaning, I've always found a kind teacher, or friend more helpful to my progress than someone who crits but with a cruel attitude and makes you not want interact with them. It discourages from wanting to ask.

By encouraging I just meant being supportive, encouraging. You know, like encouraging people. "Hey, keep at it, you're making progress, don't be disheartened. etc." literally like you would encourage a friend to get them out of their funk.

I've found these kinds of sentiments really helpful and I believe It's helpful to beginners and even more advanced people sometime. Especially when you're having a bad day and didn't do your best piece of art, to say 'you know it's just one piece, you're still trying, and you will get better.' that sort of thing is good for the psyche, makes it easier to keep going, I think.

It doesn't mean you don't crit, or help, too.

Also inspiring, by inspiring I meant people who love art, and love sharing their knowledge with others, and also people who are good at it, these people help motive you by inspiring you.

I don't see it as anything related to self-acceptance, more as what experience is more conducive/better for wanting to learn, and keep learning, to want to ask for advice, and so on.

>> No.3139333

>>3139251
Thanks, even though I'm not new here, I'm just a different kind of person. I appreciate what you just said to me.

>> No.3139341

>>3139251
I also should say, I'm not new to /4chan/, not that I'm not new to /ic/. I don't use /ic/ very often, maybe once every few months, just for exactly that reason. I find it really toxic (just my own experience.)

I also don't visit /sci/ and a few other boards for the same reason. There are other boards where I fit in a bit better, like /qst/. It's just a general attitude that makes me so tired.

Anyway, thanks for you thoughtful post and your advice is right, not to take things too seriously.

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>>3137658
i'm touched someone thought my post was helpful enough to screencap.

>>3137329
fuck i needed this, thank you

>> No.3140792

>>3137321
loomis is the dankest meme around

>> No.3140865

>>3139264
>>3139253
I'm sorry, what exactly is this supposed to mean?

>> No.3140868

>>3140865
Drawing without reference for one. And whatever else retarded people, I wouldn't know because I don't do any of that except the one I mentioned.

>> No.3141883

>>3139341
The toxicity of those boards give a certain charm to them, in my opinion. Besides, you could just call Anon a faggot if you felt like it. It's fun to see other people arguing about trivial stuff on the internet.

>>3140865
Challenging yourself by going the hard way on things only discourages you. Trying to figure out correct proportions and correct anatomy by yourself, for example, is not actually going to lead you any more further than any anatomy/proportion tutorial could.

>> No.3142000

>>3141883
>Trying to figure out correct proportions and correct anatomy by yourself, for example, is not actually going to lead you any more further than any anatomy/proportion tutorial could.
Not necessarily. If you try a pose's anatomy on your own and fail miserably, at least you know where you failed and you can more purposefully pave those cracks over with the tutorials.

>> No.3142050

I've learned to never ever post my work. If it's shit I'll get roasted, if it's good then I'll get memed. Nothing good will come of it.

>> No.3142205

>>3139003
>samui
>omoi
I don't know where you're getting that from, my dude, seems like it just doesn't appreciate how the blanket-carrier's heavy body has replaced one nuisance for another.

>> No.3142224

>>3142205
No, the one with the blanket is definitely assaulting the other do you realize this is promoting rape culture?

>> No.3144508

>>3137443
>In my experience it's almost nothing but people who don't know how to draw, insulting people who are actually trying to learn.
Where else is there?
The only places I know either ignore you entirely if you're below a certain skill level or are full of people who don't know how to draw and don't care to know how to draw that simply praise people and get upset at the slightest comment that isn't entirely positive.

>> No.3145284

>>3137333
unless it's a cast shadow.

>> No.3145377

>>3137443
>go anywhere else
Fuck no, where would that be?
Deviantart? Tumblr? Fucking elfwood?
/ic/ is heaven by comparison

>> No.3145378

>>3137489
Yeah, you know, all those artists that run around instead of sitting at the paper

>> No.3145387

That /ic/ is just loosely paraphrasing advice given by other people without understanding it completely.

>> No.3146423

>>3137321
Practice makes Tolerable

>> No.3146734

>>3137443
>someone else has to insult my post just because it's actually written with full sentences
It's not your full sentences that we hate, it's

your

spacing

>> No.3146795

>>3146734
how do you tell the difference between reddit spacing and paragraphs?

>> No.3146852

>>3146795
>>3146795
these are paragraphs:

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this is reddit spacing:

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>> No.3146858

>>3137427
That's cute though.
Don't lose your yay.

>> No.3146864

>>3146852
>>3137573
>You might have valid crit but I see you are posting in a way I don't like

>> No.3146865

>>3146795

Reddit spacing guy will use a whole double space for just one or two sentences.

Even if those sentences would have made sense together in one paragraph.

Whereas actual normal paragraphs tend to just group together each tangent to one paragraph e.g. talking about pens. This sentence is still talking about the same thing, maybe about using pens, and so it is still in the same paragraph.
Or maybe a sentence might drop down a line like this to signify slight pause or deviation, such as a personal sarcastic opinion about pens, but it is still within the same topic

A new paragraph begins here, with either a different point, or just a contrasting angle on the same topic. Maybe here the topic is instead about pens that are bad, or shilling videos on gumroad.

>> No.3146885

>>3146864
It's an anonymous image board, anything that deviates from the norm and makes you recognisable becomes a way for you to be singled out as either rubbish or just an attention whore with a target on your back. Those double spaced lines take up half a page and reeks of ESL, once people start recognizing him they can pick holes in the things he usually says and discount him easier.
However nobody is going to ignore good crit because of a typig style UnLeS iz tYpEd like dis d00d :v)

>> No.3146985

>>3137329
I just started learning and that I already knew this makes me feel like if I work my ass off for a long time I may just have a chance.

Thank you much for posting.

>> No.3147107

>>3140105
Hell yeah it was.
I'm still paralyzed with fear but at least I know who's my enemy and what I am supposed to do.
Thanks again anon.

>> No.3147674

>>3147107
glad i helped, anon. we'll beat anxiety yet.

>> No.3147737

>>3137321
None really. I just post my work here and hope people shit on me, since it fuels me to draw more.

>> No.3147893

Never use the peanutbutter in the break room

>> No.3148450

just draw xD

>> No.3149832

>>3146734
>we

15 year old detected

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>>3137321
>opposed to school where they asspat you.
Do you honestly think its better to learn from 4chan than school?

>> No.3149894

>>3137474
Not op but taking an actual art class is probably the way to go, if you have the money

>> No.3149950

>>3137321
Don't listen to /ic/. If I wanted to learn, I'll go to Youtube or something.

>> No.3149977

hmm... i dunno just draw and see people draw

>> No.3149991

>>3146865
No, each sentence I make is very important and deserves to be read with utmost care.

So I space it out like this to make sure it's VERY visible. If I COULD, if there were no STIGMA against it or I were UNAWARE of it (ie: 12 year olds), I WOULD TYPE LIKE THIS SO PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO ME MORE.

LOOK AT MY POST

LOOK AT IT

READ IT

So while I'm not as retarded as a teenager, I'm only a step up, so please, read my posts.

>> No.3150008

If you post so much on /ic/ you will become a shell of a man uwu

>> No.3150075

>>3138796
so in short; draw from imagination first and think about what you could improve.After that study that thing.

>> No.3150866

>>3137902
What the fuck do these even mean

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>>3138806
Its tehmeh.
Is it just me or his recent works look like he didn't improve at all for past few years?

>> No.3150907

>>3150880
It's called diminishing returns you fucking Retard. Once you get a grasp on your fundamentals, from that point on, it's just refining things, consistency, and speed.

>> No.3150911

>>3150907
You don't sound like someone who knows what's he's talking about, try posting again when you have actually something insightful to say

>> No.3150912

>>3142224
topkek

>> No.3150923

>>3149832
>15 year old detected
18 year old detected

>> No.3150932

>>3150880
the thing is once you have to actually draw for work it's harder to keep improving your art since most clients are happy with good enough.