How?

[Baka No.3132152]

i need followers...
How i gain some people like ilya-senpai does?

[Anonymous No.3132154]

Be good, get noticed.

[Baka No.3132156]

>>3132154
i am good
;___;

[Anonymous No.3132160]

>>3132156
Mind sharing your work for reference?

[Anonymous No.3132161]

>>3132156
Blog?

[Anonymous No.3132171]

>>3132154
Pretty much this and do fan-art on the side.

[Anonymous No.3132182]

Do fanart for games/tv shows, anything trendy and new. Draw people with big followings and tag them. If your work is good enough they'll usually repost it with a thank you.

[sk" moshi moshi chinese cartoo(...) No.3133181]

>>3132152
you do realize he has been posting like every day since past 2012, iirc he even up the post rate to twice a day back in 2015.

He is so based in work ethic regardless if ppl think he is a hack or not.

So tips:

-post daily "have no fear but actually tryhard when drawing"
-post finish work if you can
-tag it in the beginning but dont go overboard "seo help til your build audience"
-draw popular things to you or things you like "animu, vidya, concept art, your inspiration....etc"
-practice and grind that shit & the areas that need improving "be self critical when needed"
-even ilya earlier works was deviantart weeb tier
-have fun with it

-use 4k stogram to keep track of your inspirations or senpais
-fucking draw everyday brah "without getting burnt out" but active think about your drawings dont be too passive

[Anonymous No.3133185]

>>3133181
>seo help til your build audience
>use 4k stogram to keep track of your inspirations or senpais
What?

[Anonymous No.3133187]

>>3132152
fantart a fucking lot
heart and respond all the comments
maybe focus on drawing women

[Anonymous No.3133188]

>>3132152
Know the audience you want to attract. Find an artist you like (seems like you already did) and copy what he do. In his case, draw girls in anime style and do fan art of real life girls in his style. Eventually you will get noticed. As long you can do something at least similiar.

[sk" moshi moshi chinese cartoo(...) No.3133198]

>>3133185
use relevant tags for your art
eg drawing a overwatch art, you would tag it like this for example
A #tracer #study from #overwatch

so people can see it when they're searching

As for 4k stogram, it's a free instagram downloader, easy to use and you can archive your favourite artist or what not.

[Anonymous No.3133204]

>>3133198

How the fuck do you have time to make tags for all pictures you download? I download hundreds every week

[sk" moshi moshi chinese cartoo(...) No.3133209]

>>3133204
No no no, you tag when you upload your art for instagram. Sorry if I wasn't being clear enough. I haven't had much sleep.


Anyway with 4k stogram it auto-updated and download the images from the users you follow/subscribe to when opening the app. It's pretty intuitive to use.

[Anonymous No.3134446]

By mass-producing for the lowest common denominator. The average normie doesn't care how much he copies or what he says about it.

[Anonymous No.3134461]

>>3134446
No one in /ic/ can draw at Kr0n level. Except Jacecuck. This is fact

[Anonymous No.3134486]

>>3134461
>I've been here for less than a year

[Anonymous No.3134491]

>>3134461
You don't even need to be an artist in order to recognize someone who copies to this extent is a hack.

[Anonymous No.3134503]

>>3134461
FireZ and Vetyr.

[Baka No.3134540]

>>3134446
well, this tributes are interesting, i really like when he did that shit

[Anonymous No.3134616]

>>3134540
>tributes
Oh yeah let me just tribute that car real fast.

[Anonymous No.3134625]

>>3134446
does anyone know the manga in the sixth img on the right?

[Anonymous No.3134634]

>>3134625
artist is kei toume

[Anonymous No.3134645]

draw cute girls and following trend I guess...

[Anonymous No.3134650]

>>3134616
majority of these are just tributes any weeb would recognize as drawn in a different style. rest are pretty blatant though, what a shame

[sk" moshi moshi chinese cartoo(...) No.3134654]

>>3134616
so I guess all doujinshi artist and animators are hacks

[Anonymous No.3134657]

>>3134654
What makes you think they aren't.

[Anonymous No.3134673]

>>3134654
At least all of their art isn't blatantly referenced. Whenever he isn't working off of one his work is hideous.

[sk" moshi moshi chinese cartoo(...) No.3134678]

>>3134657
So i'm saying it really doesn't matter. "Pure artistic integrity" is pipe dream for the fools. /ic/ put that on a pedestal like idolfags with their idol's virginity.

same pose construction =/= tracing but does mean he was fucking lazy for it.

The main crux of the matter imo was that he didn't specify those artworks are referenced studies and was making mulla of it, and ppl that care so much about it ,to meme it forever against him. /ic/ shitposting at it's finest.

[Baka No.3134702]

>>3134616
Why isn't a tribute?
little fella

[Anonymous No.3135061]

>>3134702
>Guys those are tributes because kr0n said so

>>3134678
He "references" way, way more than just the poses.

[Anonymous No.3135072]

>>3134654
What do you mean? Since when are doujin artists and especially animators making a living out of copying anime screenshots 1 by 1?

[Anonymous No.3135085]

>>3134491
>>3134446
heavy referencing is nothing new

[Anonymous No.3135088]

>>3134446
so you can draw a frame from something now? I doubt he/she is claiming these are originals. stop making excuses for why nobody likes your art and why other artists are popular and do something about it already

[Anonymous No.3135092]

>>3134446
>>3135061
So you can't draw screenshots now? I doubt he or she is claiming these are original or not referenced. I'ts clear that drawing the shot is what he/she is trying to do. Stop making excuses for why people dont like your art and why another artist is popular and do something about it already.

[Anonymous No.3135098]

it's easy to hate on him because he does a lot worthy of it, but the guy is very good at marketing himself which is something most artfags usually neglect.

https://twitter.com/Kosan_Takeuchi essentially does the same thing as ilya from a marketing perspective but without the blatant copying

>draw popular/familiar/normie relatable things
>upload every day
if you're bad at drawing, just be very political & aim for the lowest common denominator. there are plenty of idiots out there who will share/follow anything that confirms their worldview.

>>3135085
there's a difference between posing a model for your compostion and straight-up redrawing a screengrab while shitting on people who copy your work.

[Anonymous No.3135099]

>>3135092
Ilya is male.

but good point. they're called screenshot-redraws and they're pretty popular to do. His only mistake was not crediting and letting people believe they were original. because of that everyone gets to call him a tracer and plagiarist.

[Anonymous No.3135102]

What's a good fandom to sell my soul to that will get me lots of followers?

[Anonymous No.3135106]

>>3135102
overwatch

[Anonymous No.3135113]

>>3135092
Even after being called out, he still rarely gives credit when he copies, >>3135061 for example. And when he does, it's usually something like "reference from fashion magazine", which isn't actual credit. Probably because he doesn't want people finding out the source and realize how blatant it is.

[Anonymous No.3135117]

>>3135099
nobody believes any of these are original though, he did fuck up by not crediting it but what hes doing is what good artists have been doing for hundreds of years

[Anonymous No.3135126]

>>3135117
i agree. too bad that mistake gives envy fags the license to discredit everything he does and call him a tracer when he isn't.

>>3135098
>and straight-up redrawing a screengrab
it's a common practice. people use screencaps from anime and re-draw the scene in their own style for fun. if he had just said that's what it was, you and everyone else whining about it would have nothing to say, because this shit isn't a big deal to anyone.

[Anonymous No.3135140]

>>3135085
Every time. Every fucking time someone calls out an art thief, you post golden age illustrators who were referencing photos they themselves took. At this point I seriously can't tell anymore if you're just fucking retarded or if you actually believe copying your own photos is the same thing as stealing another artist's work 1 by 1.

[Anonymous No.3135141]

>>3135099
>His only mistake was not crediting and letting people believe they were original. because of that everyone gets to call him a tracer and plagiarist.

But that's literally what makes one a plagiarist. Copying someone elses work, not crediting them and not telling anyone. Why do you say it like this is some irrelevant little detail and he is unjustly being called a plagiarist?

[Anonymous No.3135143]

>all these jealous losers mad that someone is producing work others admire while they're drawing boxes and anatomically correct ankles like anyone gives a fuck
He literally made it and is an esteemed artist who gets paid tens of thousands from just patreon alone. /ic/ is salty because he's living their dream

[Anonymous No.3135147]

>>3135143
So my dream is art theft

[Anonymous No.3135148]

>>3135147
referencing isn't theft, get over yourselves, no one gives a fuck you can construct a human figure

[Anonymous No.3135154]

>>3135148
No one says referencing is theft, where do you get that idea from? If you copy literally everything another artist has done, the pose, the composition, the colors, everything, you are stealing their work. Now, you can call it a study or a redraw, sure, but if you do not disclose the information that you have just copy someone elses work, you are an art thief. Disclosure makes all the difference here.

[Anonymous No.3135157]

>>3135148
Just out of curiousity, does art theft exist at all in your world or do you live in some communist utopia where copyright laws simply do not exist? Like, what would an artist have to do to be considered a thief in your mind if even someone like Kron does not fit your criteria?

[Anonymous No.3135163]

>>3135154
>>3135157
Copying "literally" everything would be theft. Even looking at your cherrypicked examples, he made drastic changes to color and very discernible stylistic changes (eyes, hair, face).

If he was really stealing, why hasn't he been discredited yet? Why is he not only continuing to find work, but growing his audience as well? Here's a hint, it's because you autists care about shit no one else cares about because it's all you have left in this pathetic world of grinding anatomy.

[Anonymous No.3135167]

>>3135141
No, plagerism is trying to pass something off as his own. I don't think he intentionally tried to fool people into thinking they weren't copied/referenced. Anyone who has seen spirited away would obviously recognize this scene. His problem was being a major popular artist who didn't credit and "got caught" and made a scandal. If he weren't like the 3rd most popular artist on DA no one would give a shit about this. Hundreds of artists do it, you can search "screenshot redraw" on any art site and you'll find them, none of them get this kind of drama for it.

[Anonymous No.3135171]

>>3132154
have appealing art*, get noticed

[Anonymous No.3135172]

>>3135171
post work

[Anonymous No.3135190]

>>3135163
>cherrypicked examples
They weren't cherrypicked, though. Copying models and fanart is how he rose to fame. Portraits of popular characters and cute waifus are most, if not all, of what he does. In the rare occasions when he addresses the source, he just labels them as "used photo for reference", yea, that's really all he says about crediting.

>he made drastic changes
He didn't. He copies poses, compositions, backgrounds, colorschemes, designs, lighting, and more.

>>3135167
When an artist posts something without mentioning a source. Yea, one would think that strongly implies he/she created it.
Not to mention these blatant screenshots isn't the only copies he does. The things he copies ranges from entire scenes, to things like cosplay images and fashion magazines. He even says he used references on some of those. He just doesn't say what he referenced so people won't find out how much he lifted right out of the "references".

Pic-related is a "cafe sketch" he did after he got called out, to convince people he can draw without "his references"

[Anonymous No.3135193]

>>3135190
where did he say it was a cafe sketch without reference?

[Anonymous No.3135194]

>>3135190
>He didn't. He copies poses, compositions, backgrounds, colorschemes, designs, lighting, and more.
that's the whole point of these things. you're supposed to only redraw it in your style.

[Anonymous No.3135197]

>>3135167
>If he weren't like the 3rd most popular artist on DA no one would give a shit about this

Actually it's the exact opposite. Less popular artists get ripped apart when caught stealing from other artists. Only popular artists like Ilya get people like you to vigorously defend his honor. I can guarantee you, if you do the same thing Ilya does, no one will be there to defend you or have your back. Your reputation will be destroyed and you will forever be known as a pathetic thief.

[Anonymous No.3135199]

>>3135194
Are you really this stupid? What Ilya did was not the screenshot redraw meme. Every artist who does these things posts the original right next to his version, just like in those examples you posted. When you DON'T say a word about it being a screenshot redraw and you DON'T have the screenshot next to it, what you are doing is literally plagiarism.

[Anonymous No.3135200]

>>3135197
>Your reputation will be destroyed and you will forever be known as a pathetic thief.
this is exactly what happened to him, and the reason these threads always detrail to him being a pathetic thief.

[Anonymous No.3135201]

>>3135199
>What Ilya did was not the screenshot redraw meme.
>When you DON'T say a word about it being a screenshot redraw
lol ok Jan, calm your shit.

[Anonymous No.3135203]

>>3135163
The funny thing is, no matter how desperately you defend hacks like Ilya, no one is ever going to do the same thing for you. When you are caught stealing another artist's work, you will be finished.

[Anonymous No.3135206]

>>3135194
What kr0n does is more in line of: post only the redrawn image, say it's a fan art, and add "used reference" or "tribute" when someone points it out.

[Anonymous No.3135211]

>>3135201
Who the fuck is Jan and why do you tell me to calm down just because you lost the argument? Also, it's not like Ilya only copies anime screenshots. He also steals from illustrations, photos, video game models etc.

[Anonymous No.3135214]

>>3135203
Funny thing is no one but you autists care, and no one will care. Keep crying while he makes money and builds a following you can only dream of.

[Anonymous No.3135221]

>>3135214
Yeah, keep telling yourself that, but the truth of the matter is, a lot of people care. You just don't notice it yet because you are a completely unknown shitter. But if you steal from a popular artist and you are being found out, their fanbase will most certainly destroy your reputation. kron is smart enough to only steal from video games and anime and the occasional obscure japanese illustrator and he still got a huge hit in his reputation. You sound dumb enough that you think you can steal from anyone and get away with it.

[Anonymous No.3135224]

>>3135221
>still got a huge hit in his reputation
Right, among salty crabs on 4chan. Normal people don't give a shit. His artbooks are still selling well, he has one of the top patreons of freelance artists, and his fanbase continues to grow.

So what did this "hit in reputation" do again?

[Anonymous No.3135228]

>>3135224
Normal people do give a shit if it is an artist they care about who is the victim of the plagiarism. They don't give a shit in case of Ilya because he only steals from anime and manga, which he can claim is just fanart, and from obscure japanese artists, who no one of his normie fans knows of. Try stealing art 1 by 1 from Mike Mignola or Chris Sanders or hell, even Ilya himself and see what happens to your reputation.

>So what did this "hit in reputation" do again?

His Patreon numbers have more or less stagnated while Sakimichan, someone who doesn't blatantly steal from others, makes 5 times the amount he makes.

[Anonymous No.3135229]

>>3135211
just ignore the retard, no one can be this blind unless they have brain damage

[Anonymous No.3135236]

>>3135228
His patreon numbers are higher this month than last. Sakimi always made more.

And again this is something you autists really have trouble understanding, but this isn't 20 years ago. There's so much art and reference material that no one gives a fuck. You can take a photo of the mona lisa, put a filter on it, sell it, and normies still don't give a fuck. You autists just can't accept that there's a new way to go about art, and being jealous of the success of others you try to rationalize ways that make you better in your own mind.

>a-at least I draw my own composition, if that baka just copied more iconic work then it'd be totally over for him!
Whatever helps you sleep at night

[Anonymous No.3135278]

>>3134503
lol.

[Anonymous No.3135307]

>>3135193
Anon logic
>draw elephant in sketchbook from reference
>post it as "cafe sketch"
>hurrr elephant can't be in cafe

[Anonymous No.3135428]

>>3135236
>There's a new way of making money and it's called stealing! Stop accusing my favorite thief and get a life you art police!

>>3135214
You care enough to sperg out about it

[Anonymous No.3135430]

>>3135428
Why is Illya critiquing himself?

[Anonymous No.3135440]

>>3135428
>2011
I still can find original source of this comment. It's probably fake.

[Anonymous No.3135477]

>>3135440
no it isn't. i remember seeing it, other artists included sakimichan said it was wrong of him

[Anonymous No.3135487]

>>3135430
lmao

[Anonymous No.3135488]

>>3135193
>>3135440
kr0n white knights are this pathetic holy fuck i'm crying

[Anonymous No.3135491]

>>3135428
>stealing
Right, that's why his content has been taken down for copyright infringement. Oh wait, turns out his work is different enough from the original that he can sell it with no legal repercussions and you autists just sit here in impotent rage.

>b-but he didn't git gud and grind fundies for 20 years like me! he's not good guys stop giving him money and paying him attention!
pathetic

[Anonymous No.3135496]

>>3135477
I 100% believe you! No, you are full of shit. This
>other artists included sakimichan said it was wrong of him
is unrelated and happened in 2015 after "plagiarism" scandal.
>>3135488
>kr0n haters are this pathetic holy fuck i'm crying

[Anonymous No.3135499]

>>3135440
You can't find the source because it says "deviation was deleted". the person obviously removed it after being called out for tracing.

[Anonymous No.3135542]

>>3135499
>what is google cache
Then who made this memepic and how?

[Anonymous No.3135550]

>>3135542
here's proof. if you look up Ilya's deviantart's statistics it says zero "0" critiques. but if you use a cache site and go back to 2013, it says 1 critique.

https://kuvshinov-ilya.deviantart.com/

https://web.archive.org/web/20130313234033/http://kr0npr1nz.deviantart.com/

[Anonymous No.3135568]

>>3132152
What's your instagram?

[Anonymous No.3135570]

>>3135568
>anon says in a condescending tone

[sk" moshi moshi chinese cartoo(...) No.3135701]

>>3135203

[Anonymous No.3135710]

>>3135701
>namefag
>ad Hominem
>Illyafag
Wow it's everything wrong with /ic/ in one post

[Anonymous No.3135722]

>>3135194
>>3135099
goddamn noses ruin everything

[GUWEIZ No.3135852]

>>3132152
>How i gain some people like ilya-senpai does?

Redraw everything Ilya posts. Everything. Just don't steal it. Redraw it as, you know, a tribute. Don't forget to name your best pieces "a quick doodle" or "cafe sketch".

Worst thing is, I actually prefer Guweiz to his sempai.

[Anonymous No.3136313]

>>3135852
>cafe sketch

>>3135307

[Anonymous No.3136416]

>>3132152
He's like the Roy Lichtenstein of anime. Copies popular media that he likes, with modifications for the style and sometimes with some cropping.

Not my favorite thing, but it's cool.