Alternative Art/Stylization General

[Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk No.3097707]

Last thread: >>3092936

This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make anime works in-between their studies, however, all forms of stylization is welcome here. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, remember to have fun!

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>http://senshistock.com/sketch/

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[Anonymous No.3097786]

I haven't posted my art in a while.
Gonna color it later.

[Anonymous No.3097969]

I just got a new drawing tablet (pen and touch) and started sketching in photoshop.

I mostly draw in sketchbooks but I feel that it's time I broadened my horizons. Anyway this is literally the first sketch I've done with this thing.

Any tips for photoshop? I cant seem to find an easy way to rotate the canvas.

[Anonymous No.3098192]

Just finished this one. Done with mouse.

[NoseBro No.3098204]

>>3097786
a tad of finesse goes a long way, add me back kuro you scumbag.

[Anonymous No.3098235]

>>3097969
You might want to try out other programs besides photoshop. There's plenty of smaller programs that are easy to learn and still get the job done.

[Anonymous No.3098238]

>>3097339

[Anonymous No.3098329]

>>3097969
Hit the R key to rotate the canvas. That ctrlpaint guy has a bunch of videos about photoshop

[Anonymous No.3098347]

>>3098235
Not him but isn't it good to learn photoshop?

[Anonymous No.3098381]

Trying to turn my portrait studies into anime is harder than I thought, I think I drew the head too big, maybe?

[Anonymous No.3098386]

>>3098238
Firez pls go

[Anonymous No.3098397]

[Anonymous No.3098404]

>>3098381

I tried.
Made the cranium smaller, changed the mismatched far eye, and brought the cheek in.
Flipping your canvas should help you find errors like these

[Anonymous No.3098417]

>>3097969
1)Go to
Edit -> Keyboard shortcuts
Select "Shortcuts For": "Application Menus"
"Image" -> Scroll down until you find "Flip Canvas Horizontal"
Set an easy shortcut for it, i have Ctrl+F, which is originally used to apply the last filter you used again (i don't use filters, so i don't care).
With this, you can go around flipping your canvas any time you want.

2)Go to
View -> Proof Setup -> Custom
On "Device to Simulate" choose "Working Gray - Dot Grain 20%", and hit Ok.
Now every time you press Ctrl+Y, your canvas will swap between being displayed on normal colours, and being displayed on a grayscale, which is great to quickly check the values. Furthermore, because you are only changing the display (or view) and not really the pic itself, you can still paint with the actual colours while on this grayscale mode, if you want so

[Anonymous No.3098823]

>>>3098192
this is actually impressive

[Anonymous No.3098887]

More of my shitty sketches...

[Anonymous No.3098920]

>>3098204
>I unironically like something Nosebro did

wake me up

[Anonymous No.3098957]

>>3098381

What was the original reference? Your skin tones are too similar to the hair, she looks like she has jaundice. Also pay more attention to the alignment of her facial features, studying asaro heads is really helpful imo. Also drop the heavily textured brushes for now and pay more attention to colour and value.

https://sketchfab.com/models/6238cb4ace5d4a9aa9a881ec800dbdd1

[Anonymous No.3098963]

Wanted to try some smooth skin rendering shit I read but getting lineart perfect is tedious so...here it goes before it all goes to ruin.
>>3098887
Color proportions mate. Head a bit too small vertically tho.

[Anonymous No.3098980]

>>3098404
>>3098957
Thanks for the tips my dudes.
This was the original reference and the skin tones were similar to the hair because I did it in black and white but had no idea how to color it so I just winged it.

[Anonymous No.3099032]

Will art ever be fun again?

[Anonymous No.3099113]

>>3099032

Yes, the moment you stop fearing failure.

[Anonymous No.3099119]

>>3099113
Best advice I've seen come from /ic/ in a while.

[Anonymous No.3099127]

Eyes don't look as angry as I wanted. Face is bugging me a bit too, maybe the nose is too short.
>>3098397
nice

[Anonymous No.3099271]

>>3098347
It really depends on what your end goal is. Photoshop has a lot of bloat and completely useless tools for certain kinds of artwork.
For example basic linework/rendering Sai gets the job done. For painting and animation Clip Studio is better in my opinion or Krita if you want free.

Photoshop was built for photo editing. Its evolved over the years for all types of digital art. But a lot of its features you wont use or need.

[Anonymous No.3099273]

Critonkles?

[NoseBro No.3099284]

>>3098920
Nosebro likes you back.

[Anonymous No.3099306]

This is a quick sketch i did

[Anonymous No.3099314]

>>3098823
Thanks man. I have this dream of starting a webcomic someday but I'm doubtful that people would be interested in something that looks beginner-tier. I haven't done any sticky recommendations/art theory since it gets a bit frustrating with the mouse but I'm hoping to get used to the mouse over time.

In a couple years time I think I'll be ready but until then replies like yours remain pleasantly reassuring to a guy just starting out.

[Anonymous No.3099325]

>>3098887
pretty good. got any more work?

>>3099306
thighs and foot distance look a bit off. looking good otherwise.

>>3098397
really liking the expressions and poses.

[NoseBro No.3099327]

>>3099306
try redrawing this with only mostly straight lines

[Anonymous No.3099329]

>>3098238
nice giant fucking head bro

[NoseBro No.3099331]

>>3099329
lmao youre retarded

[Anonymous No.3099426]

Been trying to render more.

[Anonymous No.3099449]

need help with the skirt, anyone have good reference or tips?

[Anonymous No.3099452]

oops too big

[Anonymous No.3099504]

This belong here, since I'm literally working on improving my style by learning and imitating how other people ink and tone.

Some manga practice, nearly done.

Any tips for toning? I find that the ones that come with the program are a bit... wonky. They're not very flexible. It also doesn't have any gradient screentones.

Oh yeah, my goal with this btw is strictly to correct and improve the way in which I ink and tone.I don't very much care for how he draws faces or eyes, etc... but it's been good practice overall, For one, I've thus learned to use much thinner lines. .5 is the best size for inking most of your pages.

[Anonymous No.3099516]

>>3099504
Can't really offer any advice but this is really fucking good.

How exactly did you get started and how long did it take to get to this level? This manga looks 100% authentic unlike the stuff I usually see.

[Anonymous No.3099517]

>>3099504
Did you just trace a full page or what?

[Anonymous No.3099553]

>>3099504
you didn't learn shit

[Anonymous No.3099559]

Looking for critique on this, got none last time on the draw thread. It's the longest I've worked in a single piece
Also if anyone has any tips on how get better edge control on CSP it'd be nice

[Anonymous No.3099610]

>>3098397
every time i see your art it leaves me feeling warm and fuzzy inside. i love you.

[Anonymous No.3099636]

>>3099504
what is this manga called? I need to know for a school project.

[Anonymous No.3099648]

>>3099504
Is the guy surprised that there's a chain seemingly just wrapped around without any lock? That looks incredibly stupid indeed.

[Anonymous No.3099654]

>>3099426
I like this a lot, anon. It's very comfy.

[NoseBro No.3099683]

>>3097707

[Anonymous No.3099691]

>>3099329
>>3099331
Idk maybe he is right ...who knows ...I was trying to make something more blatantly animu there that is for sure but I have noticed more proper proportions suit me better or at least I fail less at those.

Doodle of the only vocaloid I own. Maybe someday I will compose something again

>>3099683
You make it look so easy

[NoseBro No.3099693]

>>3099691
Just cimbal draw lel

[Anonymous No.3099700]

>>3099691
Why are you keep making basic mistakes? She has a giraffe neck

[Anonymous No.3099701]

>>3099329 #
>>3099331 #
Idk maybe he is right ...who knows ...I was trying to make something more blatantly animu there that is for sure but I have noticed more proper proportions suit me better or at least I fail less at those.

Doodle of the only vocaloid I own. Maybe someday I will compose again. ;_;

>>3099683 #
You make it look so easy

[NoseBro No.3099702]

>>3099700
youre retarded

[NoseBro No.3099704]

>>3099700

[NoseBro No.3099705]

>>3099693

[Anonymous No.3099706]

>>3099700
Not him but necks can get long

[NoseBro No.3099707]

>>3099683

[NoseBro No.3099709]

>>3099700
the finisher.

[Anonymous No.3099710]

>>3099329
>>3099331
Idk maybe he is right ...who knows ...I was trying to make something more blatantly animu there that is for sure but I have noticed more proper proportions suit me better or at least I fail less at those.

Doodle of the only vocaloid I own. Maybe someday I will compose again. ;_;

>>3099683
You make it look so easy

Edit' sorry for the mess, posting on mobile

[Anonymous No.3099808]

>>3099710
> /beg/

[NoseBro No.3099810]

>>3099808
post your work retard.

[Anonymous No.3099813]

>>3099810
Damn, dude, hop of firez's balls already.

[NoseBro No.3099816]

>>3099813
if you post (your)work better than the sum of our skill we will stop communicating.

[Anonymous No.3099817]

>>3099816
>sum of our skill
some of the guys here are actually good tho

Firez isnt one of them so stop sucking his cock

[NoseBro No.3099827]

>>3099817
why do you send someone obviously not beg tier to beg? I know why. To make yourself feel better.

[Anonymous No.3099839]

>>3099710
flat eyeball, flat neck,stop chicken scratching hair, composition is bad,googles takes attention from focal point, fix it.

[NoseBro No.3099847]

>>3099839
redline it.

[Anonymous No.3099856]

>>3099847
Kek
>>3099839
Its just a sketch,no need to be hyper critical. Sometimes chicken scratch rough drawings is more appealing than clean line work.

>>3099710
Its a nice rough draft and appealing but It does not have the animu aesthetic that you mentioned. It looks more like a generic Disney princess. Like Arial from little mermaid. And the insect on her nose also adds to the whole Disney princess look. I don't think that was your intention.

[Anonymous No.3099894]

What is the best method to practice fundies is you just gonna go Eastern Stylization, I am talking about Loomis and friend

[Anonymous No.3100006]

>>3098204
I don't know who kuro is, but thanks Nosebro.

[Anonymous No.3100063]

NoseBro gonna have to say stop sucking dick, let a man have his mistakes to himself so they can learn and improve even more, fucking hate any of this circlejerk shit.

>>3099839
With that said you're just as bullshit with your comment. Eye isn't flat, the pupils however isn't in the correct spot. If you're going to look towards your nose area you're going to end up with the "crosseyed" look and from that angle I should be seeing that much pupil ass the horizon of the eyeball. And unless you're going to add muscle definition, having a more simplier detailed neck is fine as long as it's properly placed. Looks fine to me.

The chicken scratching isn't a retort, as long as the image is readable, which it is, then go chicken scratch for the sake of getting your idea out, this isn't the "clean and tidy" phaze you dip. Don't see how the googles are too attention grabbing, the entire head should be the focus unless it's the butterfly, which if it is I'd only swift the view closer to it or make it bigger to fix that. Composition is the one thing I'm clueless to what's bad about it, what's unclear about a head with a insect on top of the nose? Maybe if you mean how the head looks "tilted", not upwards but to one side maybe, but that looked intentional to not come of too stiff.

>>3099710
The only thing I really would fix is the pupil. If she's focusing on the butterfly, she should look more centered on it, instead of looking forward ahead.

[Anonymous No.3100067]

>>3100063
>I shouldn't be seeing that much pupil pass the horizon of the eyeball.
fix'd

[Anonymous No.3100078]

WIP line, foliage is hard

[Anonymous No.3100106]

Done with the lines, is the seam on the jeans right? I'm going off of refs, also how should I try to make the texture on them? I don't own any to check but they look course/rough

[Anonymous No.3100144]

>>3099847

[Anonymous No.3100152]

>>3099710
>>3100144
maxillary is still caved in
looks like a mongoloid

[Anonymous No.3100179]

im just end sketching this, i think is ok for cleaning but i always like a second opinion, what you guys think?

[Anonymous No.3100258]

[Anonymous No.3100311]

Figure I'd post the whole image from >>3095324
I tried working with it more based on >>3095823 edits, and just those little tweaks helped it looked much better. So any redline/crit would be great.
Did I get the gun perspective right this time? The building in the back?

[Anonymous No.3100322]

>>3100063
Everything you said is wrong, except the chicken scratch part

[Anonymous No.3100326]

>>3100311
the perspective is still wrong, you wouldnt see the front part of the pistol at this angle for example, its like the entire front part is bent towards the camera. also a proper pistol grip involves placing your index finger along the frame of the gun.

[Anonymous No.3100331]

>>3100144
it looks a lot less appealing anon

[Anonymous No.3100359]

>>3100311
You're stagnant as fuck.

[Anonymous No.3100360]

>>3100326
It confuses me because you would see a little bit of the front part of the handle though? Or would you see the back?

[Anonymous No.3100370]

>>3100063
dunning kruger as fuck, redline it if you're so great

[Anonymous No.3100372]

>>3100359
How do you know he's stagnant? Because you've seen his art of the course of a couple of weeks? Why do you faggots on /ic/ always have unrealistic expectations for improvement. Art isn't a fucking video game you retard, you don't lvl up every time you play.

[Anonymous No.3100373]

>>3100372
NGMI

[Anonymous No.3100378]

>>3100179
a-are you a girl, a-anon????

[Anonymous No.3100380]

>>3100373
I already made it. I'm a working professional in the concept artist industry. Go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.3100382]

>>3100380
p o s t w o r k
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[Anonymous No.3100388]

>>3100380
lmfao yea right retard

[Anonymous No.3100417]

>>3100359
>>3100372
Nah it's true. I am very stagnant. Can I be a faggot though and blame it on being visually impaired to the point of legally blind?

[Anonymous No.3100428]

>>3099559
Why am I getting systematically no feedback whatsoever? Is it such a bland composition that there's no encouragement to go through the thumbnail?

[Anonymous No.3100429]

>>3100417
>legally blind
>trying to learn art

[Anonymous No.3100433]

>>3100428
If it isn't a cute girl you get ignored. That doesn't mean it's bad, it's just /ic/.

[Anonymous No.3100440]

>>3100433
Oh well, thanks for giving for at least answering.

[Anonymous No.3100448]

>>3100428
Because it's boring bland shit tackling a basic subject with little room for error and thus criticism.

Colors are in cohesion, but not eye opening. Forms and shapes aren't out of perspective or misshapen, but you tackled simple boxes and circular monsters. Even the dunning kruger shitters attempt a complex form like the human figure, there's more to talk about there. Try harder you lazy fuck

[Anonymous No.3100478]

>>3100448
Oh well, thanks for the input. Although it feels bland and un-ambitious, it represents important steps on what I've done since it's the first time I do a properly "finished" piece that involves a background and perspective. It seems I have achieved that and that I'm open for further challenges, if I reword your input.

[Anonymous No.3100489]

Okay, so I wanted to get some critiques on this lineup, these are pretty much all of the character designs I've done for this idea I have, and I'm definitely not 100% satisfied with it but I'd love any input or ideas on what you like / don't like, or do any stick out to you? The green guys are generic monsters, and the rest of the characters are more or less "good guys".

[Anonymous No.3100500]

>>3100078
Wait were you they guy who said they had a bottleneck in their rendering skill? If so I'm gonna tell you right now that foliage is easy bro

[Anonymous No.3100503]

>>3100500
don't let him in on the secret, he's a shit animeposter. probably half traced that face

[NoseBro No.3100509]

>>3100144
im legitimately impressed you did it. It's decent too.

[NoseBro No.3100510]

>>3100006
youre not beg1?

[NoseBro No.3100512]

>>3100311

[Anonymous No.3100542]

>>3100489
Number 4 sticks out the most to me.
The most generic ones or I feel the ones that need more distinctive features/silhouettes would be number 3 and number 11

[Anonymous No.3100547]

>>3100510
No.
I'm not beg1.

[NoseBro No.3100548]

>>3100547
blog?

[Anonymous No.3100549]

>>3100548
Don't have much in my blog.
You'll be able to recognize some of my works though.
I'm just gonna fix the one I'm currently drawing now.
https://mirlolotus.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.3100555]

>>3100503
Just to fuck with you I'll give em a quick and shitty tutorial lol
>>3100078
All right faggot this is how you do the foliage, use arcing motions with hard painting brushes and study real leaves and trees and shit dude. Paint dark to light, saturate mid tones, desaturate lights and darks (don't desaturate darks too much though, can sometimes make it look muddy). Feel free to call me shitlord if this doesn't work for ya lad, but this is how I go about it.

[Anonymous No.3100558]

[Anonymous No.3100559]

>>3100555
>purposely teaching him wrong with these shitty tutorials
devilish

[Anonymous No.3100561]

>>3100559
damnit don't tell him that!

[Anonymous No.3100566]

>>3100559
Might be but I don't know, it's amusing to see someone trolling a newbie than Nosebro making a "red line". 30 percent of the time it's not bad, good redline for otherwise shit drawing, but 70 percent of time it's a fucking trainwreck

[NoseBro No.3100568]

>>3100566
redline my redlines.

[Anonymous No.3100569]

>>3100568
I don't have time to waste looking at garbage. I come here for one reason and one reason only: book thread and shitposting. That's it.

[Anonymous No.3100575]

>>3097707
Chicocalte, do you even draw? I want to see your work right now, fggt.

[Anonymous No.3100577]

>>3100575
^ i second this.

[Anonymous No.3100579]

Would these changes have made the perspective acceptable?

[Anonymous No.3100581]

i like it, but any tips for the clothing, i guess? it was what i was most shaky about in this situation, and while i think i did ok on it, im sure i could improve somewhere?

[Anonymous No.3100583]

>>3100581
The 2 sides of the collar look like they're different sizes but holy shit dude the face is horrendous

[Anonymous No.3100584]

>>3100581
Dude.

[Anonymous No.3100585]

>>3100581
you are a girl

[Anonymous No.3100587]

>>3100585

[Anonymous No.3100590]

>>3100581
https://randomnerds.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/facc_09.pdf

[NoseBro No.3100594]

>>3100569
How do you pick off your nosehairs without a mirror?

[Anonymous No.3100595]

>>3099325
>pretty good. got any more work?
Currently...yes. This one. It's uncompleted....

[Anonymous No.3100600]

>>3100590
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.3100603]

>>3100258
best thing in this thread

[Anonymous No.3100676]

>>3100500
Haven't post in ic for quite some time, you probably got the wrong guy, unless you happened to remember my old stuff or visit a certain other site

>>3100555
I'm just having some trouble drawing things with many details on a tablet, but it's nice to see how others approach these stuff, thanks

[Anonymous No.3100731]

>>3099710
what u draw more: anime faces or real faces?

[Anonymous No.3100810]

>>3100063
Nosebro is actually very critical on discord, also some people here are just acting in bad faith, not trying to excuse myself with that but I think you should be aware of that.
Also thanks for the feedback I will take it into consideration if I decide to pursue it.

>>3100144
Nose looks overly pointy and eyes are a bit too large and caved in but besides that I do like how angular it looks. thanks.

>>3099856
Thanks, What I meant is that the sketch at the start of this thread was done purposely trying to make a anime kind of chibi thing and I suck at those, the profile one is more realistic because I'm more comfortable with that kind of proportions sorry if I was not clear


>>3100731
It's hard to say since I always try to blur one approach into the other but I think I do more stylized stuff

[Anonymous No.3100845]

>>3100063
Nosebro is actually very critical on discord, also some people here are just acting in bad faith, not trying to excuse myself with that but I think you should be aware of that.
Also thanks for the feedback I will take it into consideration if I decide to pursue it.

>>3100144
Nose looks overly pointy and eyes are a bit too large and caved in but besides that I do like how angular it looks. thanks.

>>3099856
Thanks, What I meant is that the sketch at the start of this thread was done purposely trying to make a anime kind of chibi thing and I suck at those, the profile one is more realistic because I'm more comfortable with that kind of proportions sorry if I was not clear


>>3100731
It's hard to say since I always try to blur one approach into the other but I think I do more stylized stuff overall

[Anonymous No.3100871]

>>3100382
>>3100388
bait.

[Anonymous No.3100919]

>>3100258
Teal-Line Guy, I-is that y-you?

[Anonymous No.3100921]

>>3100845
How is the discord?

[Anonymous No.3100943]

Been in a slump lately, any sort of critique would be appreciated

[Anonymous No.3100944]

>>3099559

The people likely responding to this arent Battle Network fans. I see what you tried to do and I like it. However id suggest these changes.

The floors and background lines are very defined, yet the Spookys appear sorta lumpy. I get that you wanted to make them look like paintings but theres too much contrast in elements here. Id suggest better blending the shaded areas on the bodies and masks so they look more like a gradient. Areas of immediate concern are the left Spookys eyes and mask meanwhile the Spookys mask on the right is much better defined.

Secondly Id use a few layers for the eyes. Make a basic eye on one layer then another for detail and another for shading/gloss. Make the two front Spookys eyes more consistent.

Third is use a different texture or tool for the tongue saliva. It looks like cloth more than it does saliva.

And fourth, the wisp trailing under the middle spooky is a background element in relation to the front Spooky. Having it "leak" that much light on the first Spookys face is a criminal offense.

Finally, fix the area on the right. Its a mess.

[Anonymous No.3100958]

>>3098238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K1Kd9mZL8g

[NoseBro No.3100959]

>>3100958
thanks for being useless, post your work.

[Anonymous No.3100961]

>>3100845
>>3099710
see>>3100958

[Anonymous No.3100963]

>>3100959
really?

[Anonymous No.3100964]

>>3100959
why is this faggot on his dick so hard lately?

[NoseBro No.3100968]

>>3100963
ya, really, post your work.
>>3100964
i defend anyone who is getting unfairly attacked. It's not my fault you guys are focus-firing Firez.

[Anonymous No.3100974]

>>3100968
i like firez progress and progression, i follow him on tumblr for ages now, i just think that a few of his newer works fall into the uncanny valley and that he should work on it, the video i posted just explains that one should either choose full stabilization or full realism, trying to blend the two always looks weird.

[Anonymous No.3100978]

>>3100974
it's style retard

[NoseBro No.3100979]

>>3100974
youre linking him a video as if it was physically possible for him not to known what that is, and you mentioned it 3 times in one thread. Above all your logic is flawed, as he gains skill he'll be able to draw just like he is right now and it won't be considered uncanny.

[Anonymous No.3100980]

>>3100979
i have only mentioned it in this thread.
it is possible that others share the same opinion.
that video just highlights some things to remember as if o avoid that valley.
>>3100978
> stabilization
auto correct, meant to say Stylization

[Anonymous No.3100981]

>>3100979
>as he gains skill
in other words, his stuff now is uncanny valley?
thats all people are saying, that right now, his stuff IS uncanny, not that he is always to be uncanny.

how can you even use that as an argument
>b-but in the future it wont be like this

thats not an argument, thats a prediction.

[Anonymous No.3100984]

>>3100980
didn't even notice, I meant that's just his style. you may not like it, but others find an appeal in it

[Anonymous No.3100988]

>>3100984
his style is uncanny?

[Anonymous No.3100992]

>>3100988
your taste is shit

[Anonymous No.3100994]

>>3100992
you like uncanny?

[Anonymous No.3100996]

>>3100994
it's not uncanny retard

[Anonymous No.3100999]

>>3100996
yes it is.

[Anonymous No.3101141]

>>3100943

Facial features are way too far up. Her eyes look like they're on her forehead.

It's hard to say much else, because it's not a very challenging pose. Taking a few more risks will be more revealing to flaws in your technique.

[Anonymous No.3101158]

once again

[Anonymous No.3101184]

[Anonymous No.3101201]

character designin

[Anonymous No.3101222]

>>3101201
looking good, but watch your tangents. the breast on the left is passing the line of the shirt or whatever she's wearing, making it hard to read.

[Anonymous No.3101225]

>>3101222
wanted to do that yabuki thing where tangents are used to hint things if used sparingly but thanks will look out for that in the future

[Anonymous No.3101233]

>>3101158
could use some more shadows to help define the forms better. I feel like there's a lack of a light source. she's cute though

[Anonymous No.3101236]

>>3101184
>isis

[Anonymous No.3101242]

Trying to nail down the design of these two characters. As much as I dislike resorting to weird doll anatomy, I'm in burgerland so the places I post my art tend to have varying and arbitrary standards about nudity.

I've already spotted a few errors on my own (the girl's right iliac crest should be obscured in this perspective, which is why her hips are so weirdly wide, and neither of their footing is really conforming to any kind of plane) but I'd appreciate any critiques that could be offered.

[Anonymous No.3101246]

>>3101236
what?

[Anonymous No.3101271]

critiques?

[Anonymous No.3101272]

>>3101271
i feel kinda embarrassed putting a mark into this, bbut dont know, i spend so many time in this drawing

[Anonymous No.3101277]

>>3101271
I'd say it needs crisper edges on the neck and jaw, other than that I really like it :)

[Anonymous No.3101278]

>>3101242
collarbone on the dude its fucked for a normal/relaxed position of his shoulders , also legs are too skinny and they shouldn't bend like that in that angle there are more mistakes but i think you should practice more your basics

[Anonymous No.3101281]

>>3101277
i guess i should polish everything in the next time. Indeed im feeling lazyness in some parts of this drawing now.

[Anonymous No.3101301]

>>3100512
Can you explain this, please?

[Anonymous No.3101320]

>>3101278

Thanks for your help. I do try to study as much as I can, though I admit I need to bone up on a lot of fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.3101328]

>>3101320
thats good anon , try to not focus too much on details thats for later , try to make it simple and always think on 3d

[Anonymous No.3101346]

generic military guy

[Anonymous No.3101367]

is this a cringe style?

[Anonymous No.3101370]

>>3101367
more like lazy

[Anonymous No.3101389]

>>3101370
Recently I've been trying to research an artist by the name of sergio aragones, and his stuff is really awesome.His style just seems to have so much appeal, although it looks really simple. He also seems to have so much fun and really enjoy drawing which is something that I find really hard to do. Any advice? Here is a video of him drawing at about 30 min in i think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzac_3Y_Tng

[Anonymous No.3101415]

>>3101389
Don't mistake simplicity of design for sloppiness or laziness. Compare what you're doing to what he does. Watching him draw, every line he puts down is so confident and necessary for whatever he's trying to express. Like he says in the video, he can draw like he does because of how long he studied how his subjects worked in real life. Do a lot more studies, style should come from understanding life and altering it. And don't forget to just doodle and draw a lot, if you get autistic about ""grinding"" and putting in some arbitrary "necessary" number of hours a day you'll sap all the fun out of it and you won't even be getting better, because at that point your practice will be mindless.

[Anonymous No.3101451]

>>3101415
Thanks dude probably one of the most helpful things I've heard so far.

[NoseBro No.3101454]

>>3101301
LOOMIS

[Anonymous No.3101486]

So I'm making a table with a piece of glass in it, and I'm wondering if there would be two instances of cast shadows (ontop and below the glass).

[Anonymous No.3101536]

[Anonymous No.3101543]

>>3100603
y-you t-too

>>3100919
Is teal line guy a thing?
I don't think I'm this person.

[Anonymous No.3101602]

Working on something.

[Anonymous No.3101620]

>>3097707

[Anonymous No.3101621]

>>3101536
Nice

[Anonymous No.3101676]

how do the people in the industry get away with this.

[Anonymous No.3101677]

>>3100921
Nicer than here, unfortunately I don't participate as much as I would like because it takes

>>3100958
Thanks, That appeared on my home page the other day, I will look at it. fwiw I am trying to come up with something not an style per se but something that rings true at some level, so I'm not really that afraid of the uncanny valley I know I will fail most often than not

>>3100968
Thanks bro it's a shame some people here just a waste of time, I'm open to honest critic and I have never tried to appear like I know how to draw, contrary to what some of those people seem to think

>>3100974
It pains me you feel that way, as I wrote in my last post I do try a lot and if I notice something really flawed I will fix it and upload the newer version, sometimes it passes too much time so I leave it as is because I feel it will be kind of dishonest to start fixing every single flaw of considerable older works. Anyway thanks again for the concern please be aware I'm taking it into serious consideration

Gave another try to that first sketch

[Anonymous No.3101682]

>>3100921
Nicer than here, unfortunately I don't participate as much as I would like because it takes

>>3100958
Thanks, That appeared on my home page the other day, I will look at it. fwiw I am trying to come up with something not an style per se but something that rings true at some level, so I'm not really that afraid of the uncanny valley I know I will fail most often than not

>>3100968
Thanks bro it's a shame some people here just a waste of time, I'm open to honest critic and I have never tried to appear like I know how to draw, contrary to what some of those people seem to think

>>3100974
It pains me you feel that way, as I wrote in my last post I do try a lot and if I notice something really flawed I will fix it and upload the newer version, sometimes it passes too much time so I leave it as is because I feel it will be kind of dishonest to start fixing every single flaw of considerable older works. Anyway thanks again for the concern please be aware I'm taking it into serious consideration

Gave another try to that first sketch

[Anonymous No.3101687]

>>3101682 nice to see you're still making the same stupid mistakes over and over.

[Anonymous No.3101689]

>>3101687
>ywn have a tsundere stalker

[Anonymous No.3101692]

>>3101620
needs larger legs

[Anonymous No.3101695]

>>3101687
You're a fucking idiot, perhaps a legally blind idiot

[Anonymous No.3101704]

>>3101695 I understand the truth is painful and your inability to see said errors must be extremely frustrating. Art is mainly an intellectual exercise and not everyone has the tools required.
Sad.

[Anonymous No.3101708]

>>3101704
Not him but post work. I'm honestly curious

[Anonymous No.3101727]

how does one get a tripcode? Do I just start using one or will everyone call me a fag?

[Anonymous No.3101737]

>>3101727
nah, go ahead man. nothing wrong with using a tripcode

[Anonymous No.3101743]

>>3101689
>>3101695

Sugarcoating things wont help anyone get better. If the OP is just looking for a quick and easy compliment, they could have just went to facebook/reddit and not a board for critique. You people are shameful.

>>3101682

I dont think uncanny valley is necessarily your problem but you mash a lot of details that look good individually, together with things that dont really match stylewise. This is like the thought process of people going for plastic surgery. They want something that looks good on paper but end up looking like a melted candle afterwards.

Also blending doesnt hide the issues, it just exacerbates them.

[Anonymous No.3101750]

>>3101743
you have no idea what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.3101754]

>>3101676
lol

[Anonymous No.3101769]

>>3101743
probably the most genuine piece of advice out of this whole shitstorm to be quite honest.

[Anonymous No.3101777]

>>3101743
This is pretty shit advice. Also firez is humble af he is definitely above the avg of this sad board and doesn't seem to seek validation

[Anonymous No.3101783]

>>3101777
I don't know why anyone need advice from /ic/ retards. Literally this >>3097559

[Anonymous No.3101791]

>>3101783

>Dont ask anyone for advice

Sums up the post in a nutshell.

Advice is just advice. Like an opinion isnt weighted on its objectivity. Take what you want from it. The problem is when a person takes nothing at all from advice. Which basically implies theyve hit perfection or dont desire any better.

So cut the bullshit. Maybe you didnt like what you heard but people genuinely want to help anons here. Whining and white knighting are easily the best ways to kill progress.

[Anonymous No.3101809]

>>3097483
Holy shit, this. Fucking this.

[Anonymous No.3101816]

>>3101809

>Come to artwork critique
>Ask for critique
>Get critique
>Cry about it

Uhh, what?

[Anonymous No.3101822]

>>3101791
I would agree with this in general but in the particular case of firez there is a lot of bad intention aimed to him for no reason at all. In my experience he seems to take critique very well

[Anonymous No.3101837]

>>3100258
are you making Aria fanart?

[Anonymous No.3101841]

>>3101816
people are free to respond to critique. you are not immune just because your quote number is directed at someone who uploaded their work. just because you call them crying about it does not detract from their validity. you imply confusion misleadingly as you are not confused at all, only trying to further imply the party in question is not in full control of their facilities and thus detract from their validity.

all in all, your post was pointless/10. get some tact.

[Anonymous No.3101848]

KEK
Firze and Nosebro are cancer

One's a shit artist and the other one keeps sucking his dick for no reason

You faggots made this thread hard to go through

Also every time in any thread Firez ever posts it always turns into a shitstorm, not because >people are jealous of him
but because his stuff really is shit and he wouldnt admit it
his "style" is absolute fucking garbage and he's getting worse over time

Which is a shame since he has the potential to be a decent artist, some of his studies on his tumblr dont make me puke. However if he does keep pushing this ugly, god awful, putrid style meme he isnt gonna go places other than maybe /beg/

[Anonymous No.3101850]

>>3101816
lel, git fucked anon

[Anonymous No.3101851]

>>3101791
>people genuinely want to help anons here
Doubt

[Anonymous No.3101852]

>>3101848
When you see someone this disgruntled over you on /ic/, that means you are doing something right.

[Anonymous No.3101854]

>>3101852
whatever helps you sleep at night

[Anonymous No.3101858]

>>3101848
Malaysia?

[Anonymous No.3101869]

>>3101848
lmao mad shitter

[Anonymous No.3101881]

>>3101852
sauce on the girl, now plz. I need it for reasearch.

[Anonymous No.3101899]

>>3101841

They came here for the critique, not everyone else. They are at the burden of peoples critique, not critics. Unless youre supposing people counter critique the critics just because they dared speaking contrary then thats just plain autistic. Either take the criticism or just upload your stuff to facebook.

>>3101848

This. If anything theyre the most cancerous because they have to damage control every little piece of criticism however constructive it is. And their rebuttals amount to "no u". I wouldnt be surprised if they samefagged.

[NoseBro No.3101901]

>>3101881
pip the friendly alien ks

[Anonymous No.3101909]

>>3101852

>cant take criticism
>respond by shitposting like a petulant child
>doing something right

wew lad

[NoseBro No.3101911]

>>3101848
post your work?
>>3101899
i dont think Firez Samefags. It's not about rebuttal, i defend every person from shit crits. Besides, nobody even commented on my art.

[Anonymous No.3101915]

firez is a known samefaggit. most if not all the rageposting defending his trash is him.

[Anonymous No.3101918]

>>3101911

>i defend every person from shit crits

Dont

>Besides, nobody even commented on my art

Post number?

[Anonymous No.3101920]

>>3101848
If anything he is overly humble. The only cancer on /ic/ are people like you

[NoseBro No.3101921]

>>3101915
proof?

[NoseBro No.3101924]

>>3101918
>>3099683

[Anonymous No.3101925]

>>3101920

Firez pls

[NoseBro No.3101926]

>>3101925
firez isnt even fucking online right now.

[Anonymous No.3101927]

The idiot left his trip on a few times concern and rageposting by accident

[NoseBro No.3101929]

>>3101927
THEN PROVE IT.

[Anonymous No.3101930]

>people blindly hating on someone just because of the style
this board is shit

[Anonymous No.3101931]

triggered much?

[Anonymous No.3101933]

>>3101924

Blind contour drawing? Funny, but good.

>>3099683

Nose looks out of place for an azn. Work on making the hair less janky and the clothes look less like cardboard.

[Anonymous No.3101935]

>thread coasting up to 60 replies with a comfy 2:1 post to image ratio
>nosebro, firez and shitters start shitting it up
>3:1 post to image ratio
>70 useless posts devoid of critique or art

unironically kill yourselves. all of you

[NoseBro No.3101936]

>>3101933
not mine, just part of my funny drawing collection. tx for feedback
>>3101935
wheres your work?

[Anonymous No.3101937]

>complains about lack of art
>posts nothing
>bitches about shitposting
>shitposts
stay salty fagit

[Anonymous No.3101939]

>>3101936
>>3101937

Here >>3098957, once again, kill yourselves.

Its not fucking hard to just not reply to people, but every thread you faggots just shit it up with your petty egos and wannabe mod attitudes.

[Anonymous No.3101940]

>>3101837
Kinda, wanted to do a bright piece with some architectural stuff.
Aria seemed like a good source for inspiration.

[Anonymous No.3101942]

>>3101925
I just basically noticed how he behaves and read what he post. Are you such a retard that you can't even begin to realize how wrong you are?

[NoseBro No.3101944]

>>3101939
youre acting like im not a mod.

[Anonymous No.3101953]

>>3101687
In general, artists will make the same mistakes sometimes. You may see that he isn't listening to critique or making the same mistakes, that doesn't mean Firez isn't listening to any of your critiques or trying to improve. He could be a bit of a slow learner.

[Anonymous No.3101960]

Show me your kawaiiest anime grills please

[NoseBro No.3101965]

>>3101960

[Anonymous No.3101971]

Im not sure what my style is but it's something?

[Anonymous No.3101973]

Also I cannot lettering?

[Anonymous No.3101990]

[Anonymous No.3101994]

>>3101990
Her eyes are going to fall off her face anon

[Anonymous No.3102000]

>>3101965
This is sad.

[NoseBro No.3102007]

>>3102000
shes smiling though.

[Nile !!xmt4xI2LMij No.3102010]

>>3101965
Noseeey~

[Anonymous No.3102021]

[Anonymous No.3102024]

>>3101737
I really like this bait
>>3101727
Answer me this, is this not 4chan? You know, the home of Anonymous. This isn't Reddit, fucking kys you avatar, likes system wanting faggot.

[Anonymous No.3102054]

scribbled over a few old doodles
here's one

[Anonymous No.3102110]

The adventures of trying to draw a waifu but getting sidetracked.
>Draws typical 80s/90s long hairs bad boy instead
>New guy in town set in highschool with people expecting shit of him for no reasonable reason.
>Plays drums in his lonesomeness
>Douche jock antagonist gonna do some fuck shit
>Middle aged female principle with a butch cut that's socially involved in the story
> Allot of shitty drama befalls a particularly simple small town's high school.
>So I named it "The 808"

What's wrong with me.

[Anonymous No.3102149]

>>3102054
looks a lot better,definitely have potential if you clean it up, just dont fucked up the colour like the old one

[Anonymous No.3102154]

>>3101990
My boy seriously you should try studying real life anatomy. Or if you are gonna study from someones style then chose someone with nice anatomy like norasuko. And by study I mean figure out why he did what to whichever part of the body you want to study. Because I see your attempt at tits on the right and your attempt at hands on the left and its obvious you need the real life study. Also the neck on the right looks weird, I like the collar bones though.

Also, mad props for FINALLY starting to try other shit even if you cant draw them well rn. When I started to come here all you posted was the same head over and over again, I at one point thought you were just posting the same pic as part of some stupid troll. But keep it up and dont give in.
Even if you have to look at some of your worst drawings to date, it means that you are trying. Ganbatte my nigga.

[Anonymous No.3102206]

>>3101990
is your work inspired by takahashi shin? reminds me of saikano

[Anonymous No.3102213]

>>3096497
improved a lil

[Anonymous No.3102238]

>>3102110
>What's wrong with me.
You're blogposting about fuckall and going into autistic detail about the story behind one picture. Just draw and save the autistic backstory for when you have more content

[Anonymous No.3102305]

Lmao that anon was right
Firez and Nosebro are legit cancer

inb4 post ur werk hurr

[NOSEBRO FOR REAL No.3102315]

>>3102305
Post your work you little faggot! Pic related is mine, it's just a raw sketch and it's still worlds beyond your bullshit.

[Anonymous No.3102319]

holy shit dude. I'm beginning to think this>>3102315
isn't the real nosebro, and maybe is some troll out to get him. If all those posts are legit actually him, it would actually be retarded.

[Anonymous No.3102332]

>>3099710
Why does everyone hate you again?

[Anonymous No.3102346]

>>3102021
I like this style of lineart a lot.

[Anonymous No.3102370]

>>3102238
Uh, devellping stories through drawing doesn't sound like something you should hassle someone about anon. Autist or not

[Anonymous No.3102384]

>>3102021
i like the binary style lines. The legs of the standing one are too short (using the bottom of the crotch as height midpoint reference). the neck area of the squatting one seems off but i cant put a finger on why

[Anonymous No.3102392]

>>3102346
thanks anon
>>3102384
ya your right the legs are to short, but desu alot of the proportions are off that i need to study up on. I think the necks problem is that its too far forward maybe? or too thick but thanks for the input anon, ill try to watch out for the proportions in my next drawings.

[Anonymous No.3102411]

help

[Anonymous No.3102426]

Finished. I can't be bothered to do the final bits as I'm very certain he used a photograph for those parts.

I did learn a lot though, especially when it comes to toning. I'm gonna make this a routine and do one of these a week, and then one of my own pages to assimilate this into my own natural style. It was great practice.

I do have one question I hope someone here can answer.

How do I stop THIS from happening? Whenever I resize or compress my image, all my screentones get totally fucked. But if you look at the original image on the left, the tones are perfectly preserved despite going through the same treatment.

>>3099516
Thanks, but it's not very had to copy what others do. The drawings themselves were traced as, like I said, my main focus here is toning and inking, and nothing else.

>>3099636
https://exhentai.org/g/1075636/44293d6b42/

[Anonymous No.3102433]

>>3102384
Hows this?

[Anonymous No.3102528]

>>3102238
Shut the fuck up bitch

So like then I was like, make it an anime
>Animes that shit up
>New mystery pilot shonen boy comes to prove his worth
>Learned sick skills from his dead ex engineer pops and remasters his old ship "The 808"
> Douche Rouge Pilot Antagonist Einz Larker gonna do some fuck shit
>Busty Alien Airway secretary with pixie cut is nosing around
> Allot of life changes is to befall this young man as he encounters his legacy
>So I named it "The 808 Z"

Now what's wrong with me.

[Anonymous No.3102548]

>>3102528
>what's wrong with me.
You'll never be talented enough to actually create any of it and you'll just keep shitposting here.

[Anonymous No.3102549]

>>3102548
lmao rekt

[Anonymous No.3102562]

tried something new

[Anonymous No.3102586]

>>3102562
reminds me of chunk from The Goonies. What were you going for?

[Anonymous No.3102595]

>>3102411
Time to start drawing other things besides the face.

[Anonymous No.3102598]

>>3102426
all i get is a sad panda :(

[Anonymous No.3102606]

>>3102598
>>3102598
lmfao what year is this, niggas still gettin the panda

[Anonymous No.3102609]

>>3102586
yeah kinda looks like him but what it 'is' wasn't really important for me. More the execution/the style, i was trying to pull off a leyendecker.

I dont believe in copying stuff 1 to 1, so i choose completely different subjects and then try to execute it kinda like them, so i dont do a brainless/pointless study.

[Anonymous No.3102610]

I'm high help

[Anonymous No.3102611]

>>3102610
The reference

[Anonymous No.3102618]

>>3102606
plz halp. I'll draw you a cute waifu!

[Anonymous No.3102623]

>>3102618

[Anonymous No.3102625]

>>3102618
the picturebook is called -
[Gentsuki] Nigakute Amakute Tsurai Toge | The Bitter, Sweet and Painful Thorn

...were is my waifu :B ?

[Anonymous No.3102628]

>>3102618
literally google "how to get past sadpanda." I don't even use the site and I know how to get past it.

[Anonymous No.3102629]

>>3102625
oh wow thank you. Give me some time, I've been in an art block lately and everything I draw is so bad rn. But I promise I'll draw you something to the best of my ability!

[Anonymous No.3102736]

>>3102548
>Never

B-but i've already worked with a few comic companies and a online game once. :C

[Anonymous No.3102983]

Okay, I keep running into the this problem with the saturation being too gray and dull, but everytime I try to up the color varition it just looks like crap.

[Anonymous No.3103028]

>>3102983
Make the shadows more saturated than the highlights, pick the shadow in the saturated area of the weel and conversely, it should look better already

[Anonymous No.3103042]

>>3102983
>conversely
All the shadows and forms seem have no temperature (nothings cool or warm). There is a video on youtube from nathan fowkes "Better Options for Color Vibrance"
He explains that stuff pretty well.

i just played around with warm lights and cool shadows on the overpaint and then i upped the saturation.

[Anonymous No.3103043]

>>3103042
oh shit, ignore the green text

[Oddity No.3103331]

Having a hard time with eyes... anyone have any pointers or tricks I can Try?

[Anonymous No.3103334]

>>3103331
Rule of thumb.
Eye seperation should be of a single eye length.
Height of each eye should be identical at any angle.
Remember to look at references.

[Anonymous No.3103411]

>>3102433
the squatter's neck is better yeah. here's what i mean by the proportions i was talking about last time.

[Anonymous No.3103510]

>>3103411
ok i see thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.3103543]

>>3101620
this would be great if the legs were so huge

[Anonymous No.3103702]

Not sure if it fits the Alt style thread, but if there's any advice i would be happy

[Fucboijames No.3103723]

Some OC's
I don't know how I should approach coloring, what style would be the most compatible with my artstyle? I really need help guys, thanks

[Anonymous No.3103730]

>>3103702
man, i love this. i totally believe it's a figurine.

Hmm. Have you studied figurine photography? Maybe you can jack the finishes/textures.

[Anonymous No.3103745]

>>3103723
please don't namefag like Nosebro. you're only making yourself a target and making yourself look like a massive faggot.

[Anonymous No.3103752]

>>3103730
Thanks man!!. I did it as a kind of practise, i want to work by making concept for statues/figures, but there is really lacking a touch on the textures, i'll try to make them better.

[Anonymous No.3103760]

>>3103723
great 'oc'

[Anonymous No.3103763]

>>3103723
>ocs
But the dude on the top right is from My Hero Academia

[Anonymous No.3103775]

>>3103723
>>3103760
>>3103763
Yeah, I directly tought about the mermaid from Azazel san and the brainwashing dude from Hero Academia.

[Anonymous No.3103790]

>>3103760
god sensei's original art was so fucking bad, the artists on the show really saved it

[Anonymous No.3103796]

>>3103702
Top notch.

[Anonymous No.3103812]

>>3103702
BLOG
L
O
G

[Anonymous No.3103821]

>>3103723
>OC
Dude on the top right is from MHA, and the mermaid from Azasel-sama.

We all watch anime here, you won't get away with that.

[Anonymous No.3103869]

>>3103702
Fantastic, althought one of her boobs is perky and the other is saggy. Its a lighting/shading issue

[Anonymous No.3103871]

>>3103723
>>3103821
I wasnt going to say anything but i know that girl

[Anonymous No.3103908]

>>3101973
i dig!
post more?
glad to see im not the only one here with an "alt style" that isnt mango amine stuff

[Anonymous No.3103957]

>>3103702
>those thunder thighs
HNNG
N
N
G

[Anonymous No.3103974]

>>3101620
>>3101692
>>3103543
Here's a quick redline.

[Anonymous No.3104194]

>>3103723
your old people need different face/head shapes, emphasis on jowels and shit, and more wrinkles around the cheek area

[Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk No.3104277]

new thread >>3104275

[Chicocalte !4Ltr1vH/Dk No.3104292]

...new thread >>3104290

[Anonymous No.3104357]

>>3103702
Thicc thighs i love it. Looks awesome.

[Anonymous No.3104468]

>>3099127
your head is just wrong. If you want her looking down you need to change the necks position.

[Anonymous No.3105092]

Critiques?