/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.3096902]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

OLD THREAD: >>3094763

[Anonymous No.3096904]

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

[Anonymous No.3096925]

Is something wrong? I feel like something's wrong. Any helpful suggestions?

[Anonymous No.3096927]

How do you even do a portfolio ?
How do you select which drawing will be in and which will be out ? At what point is it too much ? At what point isit not enough ?
Should a portfolio have a wide variety of artstyle in it or just the ones you're the best at ?
How do you make a portfolio that won't make you hitler ?

[Anonymous No.3096929]

im trying very hard i am

[Anonymous No.3096930]

>>3096929
Pretty spooky

[Anonymous No.3096939]

just finished a quick embroidery project

[Anonymous No.3096941]

>>3096929
ganbatte anon-san!

[Anonymous No.3096943]

1) how do I draw spaceships better?
2) what crazy space adventures can two monkeys get up to?

[Anonymous No.3096944]

>>3081162
day 9
i took some anons' advice and tried to do as much as i could with values instead of lines. still get a little lazy with the hair but ill work on it

[Anonymous No.3096946]

>be me
>ask my art senpai what he thinks of symbol drawing
>he says its a load of nonsense and instructs me to read michael hamptons design and invention and learn from there

Is symbol drawing legit or nonsense?

[Anonymous No.3096948]

>>3096946
both

[Anonymous No.3096952]

How the fuck do I approach gestures?

I'm trying to base my lines on weight amd motion but it's hard as fuck. Most of my lines are erratic and/or too long, I can't capture the form of the model, and I'm not "really feeling it". Despite listening/reading about what I should be doing I still feel lost. Is there someone who explains the process really well and/or doesn't only show their own demonstrations?

[Anonymous No.3096954]

>>3096929
was just trying to sketch the dark shapes. thanks for the ref

[Anonymous No.3096955]

>>3096946
the most broad and accurate way to describe the issue that we call symbol drawing is "drawing what you believe, not what you see"

[Anonymous No.3096958]

>>3096946
>symbol drawing
>nonsense
What the fuck kind of art mentor do you have? Every second beginner work proves him wrong with its dumb eye shape that doesn't actually look like the ref

[Anonymous No.3096966]

trying to practice values

[Anonymous No.3096968]

>>3096927
the one you are best at. You need to have a focus. Character design, enviroment, weapons, cool illustrations...but before you think in a portfolio you need to have skill, you know. I see a bunch of people doing portfolios with shit art. Do you wanna be a shit artist? Dont be. Be only a good student for a while trying to improve

[Anonymous No.3096970]

>>3096927

Be good

Pick only the best

Only put work you want people to hire you to do.

[Anonymous No.3096972]

I've been studying faces and skull and it seems to me like that at this scale perspective is so subtle there is no point in thinking about it. It is actually throwing me off because all the features are in parallel lines instead of converging off somewhere. So at what point do you start to consider two point and even three point perspective?

[Anonymous No.3096973]

>>3096966
Don't practice values by using a pure white background. Values are relative, so you need to have them relate to each other. Put a grey background that matches the background of the reference and you should see how things are off. Additionally be careful of your values shifting too much in each area. You have a lot of variations in the tons in the shadows when in reality the shifts are very subtle.

[Anonymous No.3096982]

>>3096966
taht is awful to look at. you need to use a much bigger brush sizes to lay-in the big blocks of color that you see when you squint your eyes (and subtle value shifts just merge into big simples shapes) and paint those in and then you can work on detail.

[Anonymous No.3097049]

>>3096972
try drawing a line for the roots of the teeth or the bottom of the chin

[Anonymous No.3097058]

>>3096972
you can just eyeball it, actual point perspective is only useful in cases where the subject has more extreme foreshortening

[Anonymous No.3097059]

>>3096929
zzzzzzzz try harder anon.
thanks for the ref tho ;)

[Anonymous No.3097064]

>>3096904
>life drawing class
>just put yourself out there bro trust me

Haha fuck you normos.

[Anonymous No.3097066]

>>3096966
For the love of god, use a blending brush and don't use a white background.

And work dark to lights or vice versa, don't just scribble everywhere. The values are generally right but they're just a clusterfuck to look at.

[Anonymous No.3097068]

>>3096925
yes boobs don't just come out straight off the chest. The shouldersare too wide and don't curve properly. The ass is too visible and it should not overlap the leg. Neck is also too narrow and arms are too long. Its quite bad

[Anonymous No.3097071]

>>3096943
They should get into no adventures until you get your fundamentals down

[Anonymous No.3097074]

>>3097068
this man has not seen enough porn.
>>3096925
watch porn where they have full body shots and pause at interesting poses. break them down into shapes and think of the body as bean bag or floursack. then add limbs and features on top. you only get to fap until you draw it correctly. rinse and repeat, and somehow don't become a dickbrain

[Anonymous No.3097075]

>>3097074
Wtf, now I love drawing

[Anonymous No.3097079]

>>3097074
are you seriously saying that is good anatomy?

[Anonymous No.3097082]

>>3097079
he's trying to say something but it doesn't make any sense

[Anonymous No.3097096]

>>3097079
>>3097082
no that anatomy is shit. what i'm saying is watching porn can help you get better at anatomy- dynamic angles, nude models that arent ugly, lots of poses....it's a gold mine if you study from it.

[Anonymous No.3097111]

Just bought a wacom pen and touch refurbished since it was cheap. I haven't used one since the bamboo I bought a long time ago. I went back to my sketchbooks since then.

Anyway since I'm going to have to relearn digital art again I just wanted to know some tips while I work out the kinks.

Specifically, what's a good resolution to sketch in? Obviously a lot of what's posted here is resized. Also what are the program preferences of /ic/? I have both photoshop CS3 and paint tool sai.

[Anonymous No.3097114]

>>3097111
sai is good for lines and mixing, photoshop is a more general but more robust tool (and works fine for drawing)..it's up to you really. also you are allowed to use two programs at once. no one says you need to draw in photoshop if you want to use liquify later.

a good size is again up to you. generally a good rule is that you never zoom in past 100%, so if you're going to do something really detailed you might go as high as 8 times the size of the final drawing, but 2x or 4x is more usual. so if say your final drawing is going to be 1000x1000 then you have it at 2000x2000 and draw at 50% zoom or 4000x4000 at 25%

you can also do the sketch at 1x, or even less then stretch it later when you're doing the details.

[Anonymous No.3097115]

>>3097111
I've been using photoshop all my life but honestly the line quality (as well as some dumb cintiq related issues) was seriously getting on my nerves. The past few weeks I've switched to krita and I'd easily recommend it over photoshop now.

[Anonymous No.3097121]

Is this sketch good? How would I go about making it look like fur now...

[Anonymous No.3097122]

>>3097114
i should say though that the higher the resolution the more room the program has for pen effects and stuff like that, so 1x is nicht so gut, if you want the nicest looking marks

[Anonymous No.3097129]

>>3097121
use chicken scratching.

[Anonymous No.3097130]

>>3097111
3000x3000 is a minimum for drawing anything at good resolution. Since my screen (or most screens) aren't that big, I draw at about 50 percent zoom. Most people have screens around 1600x900 so even if the lines are slightly off and don't connect fully when you zoom in, you can just export it into an image size that's 55 percent and you'll still have a clean HD image that will take up a nice portion of the screen.

[Anonymous No.3097131]

>>3097130
55 percent of the size*

[Anonymous No.3097211]

Comments?

[Anonymous No.3097216]

>>3097121
>>3097211
You're both clearly bad and need to study.

[Anonymous No.3097221]

>>3097216
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. Hence why we're in /beg/. This is my second day doing this so glad to know I need to study

[Anonymous No.3097225]

>>3097221
Great so keep at and come back when you have something worth critiquing.

[Anonymous No.3097226]

>>3097211
Try harder.

[Anonymous No.3097227]

Any tips on posture while drawing (with a tablet).

I find myself bending forward a lot, which I can already tell isn't good for me.

I've got a small tablet but it seems like it would be best to have it at an angle rather than flat on the desk in front of my monitor. I'm not sure how to fix this other than buying some sort of stand.

Any other suggestions besides sitting straight?

[Anonymous No.3097243]

How am I doing?
What should I correct next monday?

[Anonymous No.3097250]

>>3097243
the head

[Anonymous No.3097255]

>>3096929
You should try to finish one. Better practice that way.

[Anonymous No.3097257]

How am I doing?
What should I correct next monday?

>>3097250
Sorry, I deleted the old post because I forgot a couple of layers
What's wrong with the head?

[Anonymous No.3097261]

>>3097257
>What's wrong with the head?
It's non-existent

[Anonymous No.3097263]

I just did a sketch practicing drawing anatomy and faces from imagination. Can you guys give me some advice to help me improve? I normally draw realistic art with shadows and I use lots of reference.

[Anonymous No.3097268]

>>3097257
>How am I doing?
Bad. Very very bad.

[Anonymous No.3097271]

>>3097071
Wtf I love drawing now

[Anonymous No.3097275]

>>3097261
I'll do the head when I'm done witht he clothes

>>3097268
But why?

[Anonymous No.3097280]

"just DRAW"
>draws
"Don't draw that. Work on fundamentals."
Y'all need to make up your damn minds.

[Anonymous No.3097282]

>>3097263
Not too bad but breasts have no weight. Hair seems random and doesn't have an actual flow. Why is their a line going down the collarbone? Pull her left eyebrow out a bit to mirror the other one and her face is pretty good. Other than that its good.

[Anonymous No.3097287]

>>3097280
Maybe you should quit if you're such a pussy bitch.

[Anonymous No.3097289]

>>3097282
Thanks! Yeah the boobs were bothering me but you put it into the right words. The line I think is just some hair stuff.

[Anonymous No.3097290]

>>3096902
I made this in 2012 when I wasn't really thinking about what I was doing. It was an experiment so I know this board hates rendering but I actually like how it turned out. What would be a good background for this creature? I am very bad at figuring out a background for things.

[Anonymous No.3097296]

>>3097287
Drawing is fun. The only thing worth quitting is /ic/ since it's full of worthless people like you.

[Anonymous No.3097299]

>>3097296
agreed

[Anonymous No.3097304]

>>3097263
Learn to draw boobs and hands.

[Anonymous No.3097305]

>>3097296
>>3097299
Then leave. Neither of you will ever become anything. Have fun wallowing in your shit.

[Anonymous No.3097308]

>>3097305
Show your work dude. Sounds like your a real professional.

[Anonymous No.3097310]

>>3097304
That's what I'm trying to do dude

[Anonymous No.3097327]

>>3095924 #
>>3096714 #
Defined her leg and shoulders betterer

I like how it's coming along

Any other thing that sticks out badly?

[Anonymous No.3097329]

>>3097211>>3097121

20 second doodle. Not even trying huh.

>>3097257
File is too big. Should be under 500 in at tree very least

>>3097263
Breasts look fake. Trees no weight to them and the nipples appear to be pointing east and west. Great face.

[Anonymous No.3097332]

Is frustration part of learning cause I am.

[Anonymous No.3097333]

>>3097290
Way back from 2012 and now you want to finish it? That's 5 years you waited,too long. It looks interesting imo
.>>3097327
Wow this file is huge for a gesture drawing. Make smaller, is not hard.

[Anonymous No.3097337]

>>3097332
Just have fun with it. Don't care about results. Its just practice.

You can a 1 dollar dry erase board for gesture drawing. No using stacks of paper.

[Anonymous No.3097340]

>>3097333
>It looks interesting imo
Thanks... its actually kind of bad if you look, I didn't think about my light source or how the wings would connect to the back. One shoulder looks disconnected, etc... I've gotten better since, but I feel like its good enough to deserve being finished because at the time, it took days to color it in because I was a traditional artist still learning how to use photoshop.

Because of the fact I colored this without thinking about a light source, and without wanting a background at the time, I don't know what to put behind it that could save the image.

[Anonymous No.3097348]

>>3097329

I'm >>3097121 and that took me much longer than 20 seconds
Feels bad

[Anonymous No.3097350]

>>3097327
>>3097333
My bad.

Better?

What do you guys think of my drawing.

I think it has a little of that amateur stiffness but I can't pin point why and where

[Anonymous No.3097354]

>>3096925

[Anonymous No.3097356]

>>3097332
E X T R A T H I C C

[Anonymous No.3097360]

>>3097350
the legs are a bit long

comparing it to the torso id say they're about 25%/33% too big for the proportions youre going for

[Anonymous No.3097361]

>>3097360
Not him but iirc it's supposed to be some lizard girl or khajiit or something.

[Anonymous No.3097362]

>>3097361
even so theyre legs and it just looks a bit off. im not one to judge though, my art is still shit. i probably shouldnt be giving advice

[Anonymous No.3097365]

Okay Anons I have to admit, my biggest gripe with practicing drawing is that I don't have particularily fun with it. I want results too fast, I think, and to do so I need to focus like a virgin trying his damnedest to fuck a prostitute of 20 years in service.

Is it okay to listen to some music while drawing? I feel like in the long run it's just gonna distract the fuck out of me instead.

[Anonymous No.3097366]

>>3097365
You might as well give up. Music won't help you. Drugs won't help you. You don't like drawing. You're a lost cause.

[Anonymous No.3097369]

>>3097366
But Anon I'll have true fun with it once I get really good, ten years down the line. Right?

[Anonymous No.3097370]

>>3096968
Isn't it good to also show a few works in other styles, so people know you're able to switch styles?

[Anonymous No.3097377]

>>3097369
You won't ever get to that point to find out.

[Anonymous No.3097383]

>>3097377
Genuine question: How can anyone have fun while being bad at something?

[Anonymous No.3097384]

>>3097383
Because they enjoy whatever it is they're doing. It's simple.

[Anonymous No.3097385]

>>3097365
Whatever man. Dude, I watched breaking bad while drawing. I didn't pay attention to drawing at all while watching but it just happened. Its just exercise anyways. If you don't like drawing don't force yourself. Do something else with your time.

>>3097354
This is very good reference

>>3097350
Cleaning up the contours more. Long legs not a problem cuz their hooves not human legs, who cares if they aren't realistic. I like it.

>>3097348
I'm just a idiot nobody on 4chan. Don't feel bad cause a anon said something.

>>3097340
You don't have to finish it. Just leave it as is. Repaint another one with the background you want and actually think about your light sources this time. Instead of going back to the past, move forward.

[Anonymous No.3097388]

After drawing 4 million boxes I think I'm finally ready to create art. I present to you my first OC. This is Leopold Troublefield, a selfish aristocrat who likes to go on adventures in the slums of Skydome City. He just met the love of his life, that's why there's a spark in his eyes. Thank you /ic/ for allowing me to reach this point.

Hmm I should look into trademarking my ideas.

[Anonymous No.3097390]

>>3097388
You need to work on the eyes.

[Anonymous No.3097395]

>>3097388
Perspective.

[Anonymous No.3097397]

I don't understand how light works- any book recommendations? I've only gone through Keys and DOTRSOTB. Where to from here?

Drawn from photo ref.

[Anonymous No.3097400]

fuck hair

[Anonymous No.3097402]

My portrait study turned out terrible so I changed it into anime, how do I make this better? Also, how am I suppose to add color to this?

[Anonymous No.3097403]

>>3097096
I already knew that. You can find a lot of extreme angles since everyone is laying down with the cameras pointed up their asses and you can get downward shots from things like POV and piledrivers.

[Anonymous No.3097409]

>>3097402
>how do I make this better
Masterstudy your favourite artists.

[Anonymous No.3097411]

>>3097400
i like the hair, i like how the proportions are seemingly stylized. ear is the weak spot

[Anonymous No.3097414]

>>3097400
The hair is pretty cool

Eyes tho...

[Anonymous No.3097423]

>>3097402
Keep drawing anime.

[Anonymous No.3097424]

>>3097397
anything facing away from the light source gets shaded, simple as that

[Anonymous No.3097425]

[Anonymous No.3097427]

>>3096944
definite improvement anon. use a set value for the base and erase for highlights to have better control on the values

[Anonymous No.3097436]

>>3097332
>falls for the box meme
>figures have no flow or sensuality because they are made out of robot parts

errytime

[Anonymous No.3097441]

>tfw can draw much better from imagination than observation
fucking hell, shouldn't it be opposite?

[Anonymous No.3097442]

>>3097257
If you're going for illustration of an upper middle class twit on a therapist chair in New Yorker you've got it down pat.

[Anonymous No.3097443]

>>3097441
You probably can't draw well at all and are just deluding yourself. Keep practicing.

[Anonymous No.3097445]

>>3097280
Just draw means just draw shit that will actually help you learn. We're trying to help you, ingrate.

[Anonymous No.3097449]

>>3097290
just shop it onto any generic metal album cover and call it a day

[Anonymous No.3097450]

>>3097441
Unconscious incompetence

[Anonymous No.3097451]

>>3097443
He never said he could draw well

[Anonymous No.3097453]

What facets of anatomy should I learn first? I'm having a look at proko's anatomy vids and he's going in depth about the spine and now the pelvis. Is there a certain order anybody recommends learning anatomy or should I just learn whatever I come across?

[Anonymous No.3097456]

>>3097453
cover the trunk first because its easiest to fuck up noticeably, especially where the limbs connect.

[Anonymous No.3097463]

>>3097456

Cool, thank you

[Anonymous No.3097493]

>>3097059
try to follow the form with the crosshatching.

[Anonymous No.3097496]

It's pretty rough, but Is there anything glaringly wrong with this construction or can I move on?

[Anonymous No.3097499]

>>3097496
The winner's arm is raised by pulling up his wrist, not intimately feeling his biceps

[Anonymous No.3097501]

>>3097496
Yeah its made out of boxes and not organic at all

[Anonymous No.3097506]

>>3097501
Not to sound rude, but what difference does it make when it's just supposed to make me feel the perspective?

[Anonymous No.3097508]

>>3097493
Cool. Will keep that in mind next time thanks!

[Anonymous No.3097510]

>>3097506
It makes a difference because you need to be able to draw gesture in 3d. In order to do that it forces you to "feel" the form rather than rely on arbitrary formulas and guidelines.

[Anonymous No.3097513]

Do your worst.

>inb4 anime

[Anonymous No.3097522]

>>3097513
I don't know why you put so much effort into a clearly trash drawing but okay.
The anatomy sucks obviously.
You clearly can't forshorten so go learn perspective.
The clothes suck too.
Food looks unappealing and shitty but that's just me.

[Anonymous No.3097523]

>>3097510
Can you show me an example of how you draw gesture in 3d, or point me in the right direction of what tutorial to watch/read?

It's hard to imagine constructing something without guidelines and I don't really see what's wrong with it.

[Anonymous No.3097527]

>>3097522
T..t.thanks...

[Anonymous No.3097529]

>>3097513
His right leg looks deformed and shrunken not bent
How is he meant to be holding the plane with his right arm when his hand is like that. Looks like the plate is tipped over
Also his Hand is almost bigger than his head

I'm pretty shit myself but this is just what I saw

[Anonymous No.3097542]

Ok, so, the biggest barrier to digital art and painting for me right now is blending. I've been blindly experimenting, trying to get a good method going, but I was wondering a few things about how the pros do it:

Firstly, do they use things like opacity and size controlled by pressure? It seems hard to control, much harder than with a real brush, and so far, I've had much more success setting the brush to a specific size, and keeping the opacity at 40% or so, so I can blend colors. Should I GitGud at that, or is it mostly preference?

I'm also having a lot of trouble with the seams between colors, is there a trick to get rid of those, or do I just have to control the strokes properly, and distribute the values evenly? Even with a soft brush I can still see the seams somewhat.

Any tips you can give on blending? To clarify, I'd like to keep it simple, without layer masks or anything like that. My goal is to paint in one layer.

[Anonymous No.3097545]

>>3097523
Glen Vilppu. The resource threads should be able to hook you up to one of the MEGA links that have a ton of videos and books that you can learn from. You can put things into rectangles and use basic perspective tricks like crossing diagonals to find the half point of a rectangle in any perspective but I wouldn't recommend drawing boxes for every part of the human body, it will take too long and will stiffen your drawing. Learn how to draw flat shapes and silhouettes but still feel the volume of the forms, learning from shadows and actually touching your body can help.

[Anonymous No.3097548]

>>3097542
Just use the blender brush tool lol. Paint Tool Sai has one, Photoshop has one, Clip studio has one, it's pretty straight forward to use

[Anonymous No.3097561]

>>3097400
Measure the distances between features. Use plumb lines and all that shit. Read Bert Dodson's Keys to Drawing.

[Anonymous No.3097562]

5-15 minute warmups. snowy mountain took me half an hour, it was difficult

[Anonymous No.3097563]

>>3097411
>proportions are seemingly stylized
lol don't do this to him

[Anonymous No.3097570]

>>3097513
>turning the legs into some deformed freak show nightmare to fit them on the page
love this meme

[Anonymous No.3097572]

>>3097562
Fuck, how can you color this well so quickly?

[Anonymous No.3097575]

>>3097545
Alrighty, thanks anon. I'll check his stuff out.

[Anonymous No.3097579]

>>3097548
It looks much less natural, though.

[Anonymous No.3097581]

>>3097562

hey can you share please, how you got into environment drawing? (tutorials, books, ...)
I like it!

[Anonymous No.3097589]

>>3097581
>>3097581
Whenever I see anything with a beautiful background (anime,vidya, cartoons) I always pause and study the colors. I also color pick and memorize the relationships of the color by remembering where the color sits on the color box thing in Paint Tool Sai. I learned how to analyze and memorize color relationships from Kienan Lafferty's color videos. Look em' up, they're literally the best thing that's happened to my coloring. Painting dark to light, desaturating the darkest shadows and slowly saturating the values to the midtones, desaturating the lights and hue shifting all your colors towards your light source color (most of the time it's yellow) and your ambient color (most of the time your shadows will be blue/purple). It sounds complicated but just practice 30min to hour every day and you'll be able to "feel" which colors are muddy, how soft and hard edges need to be, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgnkU05DKV0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zbDVlDpIww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0YAisJXYuM
Hope this helped

[Anonymous No.3097592]

>>3097542
I'm having similar problems, but I found that setting flow to pressure sensitivity allows me to paint pretty comfortably, although I don't really like the result unless I spend really much time on blending, so that everything looks smooth and seamless. This I did with a hard round with flow and size controlled by pressue.

[Anonymous No.3097597]

>>3097589
Thx for reply. These are awesome tips!

[Anonymous No.3097604]

>>3097332
1.Make yourself an Cgpeers Account.
2. Download Utorrent.
3.Download Figure Drawing 1 by Gleen Vilppu
4.Seed it
Watch it and learn.

[Anonymous No.3097646]

How does this look?

[Anonymous No.3097650]

>>3097646

[Anonymous No.3097653]

>>3097650
Nice.

[Anonymous No.3097664]

>>3097646
>RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS

[Anonymous No.3097666]

>>3097650
Oh, hey, I'm not the only one who thought that.

[Anonymous No.3097669]

I'm re-reading Loomis and practicing my proportions and memorising planes. I've struggled with heads for awhile now.

[Anonymous No.3097674]

>>3097496
The shapes themselves are not correct if they are supposed to represent a human but the perspective is correct, so you are halfway there, anon, keep it up. By the way, I recommend for now using just squares for the construction instead of circles, later when you understand how does the body work you'll be allowed to use circles, but now squares will help you understand the direction extremities are supposed to go to and will train your 3D eye.

[Anonymous No.3097679]

>>3097669
i swear loomis people are the worst.

[Anonymous No.3097681]

>>3097674
do the perspective lines even run correctly? none of them go to the lvp or rvp bar the body

[Anonymous No.3097685]

>>3097681
I mean they are not completely wrong, the construction is not correct but in the path of learning perspective the torsos are at least correct and there's some understanding on how does the shape of the arms are supposed to go

[Anonymous No.3097690]

Alright /beg/, I know the "clouds" are terrible and so are my proportions. Please point out the mistakes I've failed to notice and give me tips if you're nice enough.

[Anonymous No.3097693]

>>3097690
imma redraw this for you, stick around

[NoseBro No.3097694]

>>3097690
stop using whatever fucking brush it is youre using. it's trypophobic

[Anonymous No.3097697]

>>3097694
I apologize for my terrible brush. I will get to changing it.

[Anonymous No.3097698]

>>3097693
Go ahead anon.

[Anonymous No.3097701]

Ok, I think I get how to make the blending between colors look natural, you just gotta wiggle wiggle the brush a bit to break up the stroke!

Tell me what you think, I guess. I'll post the original next.

[Anonymous No.3097703]

>>3097701
Here. I know the drawing isn't great, but I wanted to focus on the values and blending, so I didn't fix it that much. I'm really happy with how it turned out, I was (am) deathly afraid of digital, but hopefully some day I'll be able to draw semen demons all day in my wacom (tm) tablet!

[Anonymous No.3097719]

>feelsbeginnerman

[Anonymous No.3097731]

>>3097719
I know that feel desu. Drew my first okay looking weeb face though

[Anonymous No.3097735]

>>3097731
Feels very danganronpa-y, nice work anon

[Anonymous No.3097739]

>>3097731
it's got a nice feel to it, feels structured

[Anonymous No.3097740]

Hows this?

[Anonymous No.3097743]

>>3097740
>RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS
It definitely is good tho, I wish it just didn't fill the fucking screen immediately.

[Anonymous No.3097748]

>>3097740
looks pretty
anatomy seems spot on for the most part as well as the perspective

[Anonymous No.3097750]

>>3097719
just-about-beginning-to-grasp-the-planes-of-the-face-in-3D-space/10

>>3097731
flat/10, you need to learn to t h i n k i n 3 D

[Anonymous No.3097754]

>>3097748
>anatomy seems spot on
Wow your standards are low. How did the ear get there? Where does the neck connect to the body? Does she have two left hands?

[Anonymous No.3097756]

>>3097750
ty
tried my best but still beginner, especially with tablets

[Anonymous No.3097757]

>>3097750
>flat/10
What would I do to make it look more 3d? I was just trying to get linework/proportions to not look retarded. I have no idea what I'd do from here

[Anonymous No.3097758]

>>3097750
how 3d is a stylized front view going to look anyway? lol

[Anonymous No.3097771]

>>3097757
it's hard to learn how things are proportional to each other if you don't know why they are, and it's hard to make something look 3D if you don't know how it behaves in 3D space. You need to learn anatomy, I recommend Hampton's figure drawing and then studying Krenz to see how it can be adapted to anime works.
>>3097758
Line weight can be used to portray distance to the viewpoint, and features such as the ears, hair and neck muscles are greatly affected by perspective even in front view. The folds of the eyelids can also be used to symbolise depth in the eye sockets. So to answer your question, very.

[Anonymous No.3097783]

>>3097771
I'll look up those books. I'm only like 2 or 3 days into drawing seriously so I kind of just drew that. Tried a bunch of books and head drawing videos but either got bored or frustrated. Am fairly interested in figure drawing even though I'm garbage. Will check it out

[Anonymous No.3097802]

is it just me or is profile and head on far easier than any 3/4 pose

[Anonymous No.3097805]

>>3097802
I don't understand ho so many artists can draw nothing but 3/4 with both them and their critics saying it's easier.

[Anonymous No.3097807]

>>3097802
>Guys y it easier to make these two thing on their own instead of synthesized together?

Gee, I don't kno brainlet, you tell me

[Anonymous No.3097811]

>>3097802
>>3097802
Yeah, profile side view is easy because you don't have to worry about perspective or symmetry. The reason why people draw 3/4ths though is that it shows both the side and front of the head well, which can add depth to a piece very easily.

[Anonymous No.3097813]

>>3097701
It's pretty good. You could pick an area of interest to push the details and contrast a bit further. And next time use a bigger brush for large areas. The background and table are messy when you could have handled it with three brushstrokes. That applies to the whole painting really but it's particularly distracting in the background.

[Anonymous No.3097819]

>>3097805
I think its harder to make front and side look 3d and not like cave painting

[Anonymous No.3097830]

>>3097802
That shit is easy, the true pain is trying to understand how do anime heads look when you starting tilting them down or up

[NoseBro No.3097833]

>>3097731

[Anonymous No.3097843]

>tfw can draw anatomically correct boobs, but not faces

[Anonymous No.3097845]

>>3097843
I understand this feeling, also
>can draw asses but now legs

fuck this gay earth

[Anonymous No.3097848]

>>3097845
Well at least we have our priorities right. Ish.

[Anonymous No.3097854]

>>3097833
https://youtu.be/WIsx1t8TJq4

[Anonymous No.3097871]

>starting to get the hang of anatomy in actual poses and angles
>try doing just a completely basic front-facing body with resting arms
>fail miserably

[Anonymous No.3097889]

>>3096902
I am trying to understand faces but I kind of suck at it, it looks flat and wrong. Maybe I put in too little effort or something but could someone pls tell me what's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.3097910]

Who are the best youtuber to learn how to draw ?

[Anonymous No.3097912]

>>3097910
jazza

[Anonymous No.3097913]

>>3097354
What if I want to draw them like a weeb?

[Anonymous No.3097914]

>>3097912

[Anonymous No.3097916]

>>3097912
I don t like jazza, he is too cartoonish...I want the basics but I kind of dislike him

[Anonymous No.3097943]

>>3097910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYaNos86ud8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO5j0grMJRc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjJb6DMlJ1Y
You'll never need any other lessons.

[Anonymous No.3097968]

Some drawings I've been doing
I like kind of exercises because I get to practice my lineart, structure and shading

[Anonymous No.3097970]

>>3097968
these kind*

[Anonymous No.3097971]

Haven't really drawn since I was about 15 and I'm 20 now. Bought an intuous and dived into it.

Aside from being shit, there is something way off about the facial composition. Can anyone tell me what it is? Pretty sure either the mouth or nose is way out. I just can't for the life of me tell which.

Not ears. I can't draw ears. I'll get on that ear game later tonight

[Anonymous No.3097978]

>>3097968
the basin thing is really bad. In general your lines are not at the right angles

[Anonymous No.3097981]

>>3097971
>taking a picture of your screen instead of screenshotting
>picture is sideways
>3264x2448
>haven't read the OP
>haven't read the sticky either
>bought an expensive drawing tool instead of just using pen & paper which will give you a much better start at learning how to draw
fuck off you sperg AND READ THE STICKY

[Anonymous No.3097983]

>>3097968
shade each side of a cube one continuous colour instead of random marbling

[Anonymous No.3097984]

>>3097978
Basin? It's a cylinder, m8 (its the one I struggled the most with)
Aynway, could you perhaps tell me how to improve/do a traceover? or do I just need to keep on grinding the basics?

[Anonymous No.3097985]

>>3097984
you need to give up while you still have the chance

[Anonymous No.3097988]

I have a imagination block, Please challenge me to draw a theme? Anyone else want to draw a theme with me?

[Anonymous No.3097989]

>>3097985
:^) never ever, I love drawing

[Anonymous No.3097993]

a few threads ago some one said that i needed to study more proportions because my first few portraits looked abit wonky (probably still is).so i took a few days to study abit and did some exercises.heres my latest photo study.some critique would be much appreciated.
original replies >>3092947 >>3093925

[Anonymous No.3097994]

>>3097981
I had it better quality in a thread that 404'd shortly after I posted. Apologies for the incompentance. None the less you are quite a cunt,

[Anonymous No.3097995]

>>3097981
Also, pen and paper will not give you a better start at learning to draw.
It just takes longer. Traditional will likely be outdated within the next several decades.

[Anonymous No.3098001]

>>3097995
>Traditional will likely be outdated within the next several decades

you are retarded. Professionally, digital drawing is already 'outdated', everyone has moved on to 3d for faster work flow

[Anonymous No.3098002]

should you draw construction lines if you are working from a reference?

[Anonymous No.3098012]

>>3097995
Call me when digital art stops looking like plastic garbage

[Anonymous No.3098015]

This is my first drawing after I tried to do some cubes and spheres.it s the first test from the sticky.Is it a okay attempt for a first drawing/test/try? IT WAS SO DAMN TRICKY,I could barerly understand where his limbs were.But it was so much fun even though I made his head the size of a peanut

[Anonymous No.3098018]

>>3098012
Call me when people are making photorealistic traditional art

[Anonymous No.3098020]

[Anonymous No.3098023]

>>3098018
holy fuck you're retarded
leave /ic/ and never come back

[Anonymous No.3098024]

>>3098012
Are you retarded

[Anonymous No.3098025]

>>3098018
k what's your number because I have a phone call for you

[Anonymous No.3098026]

>>3098023
>>3098025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEdRLlqdgA4

Oh good. We can all be wrong. What a constructive thread this is.

[Anonymous No.3098028]

>>3098026
ok cool but what's your number
you can create photo realistic artwork with both traditional and digital

[Anonymous No.3098030]

>>3098028
I get that now. Prior to that gif I hadn't seen it.
I was just respond it to>>3098012

[Anonymous No.3098033]

Hello

[Anonymous No.3098037]

Please critique, i'm new as hell and trying to figure out cloth lighting, figures etc.

[Anonymous No.3098051]

How the FUCK do you get work as an artist? I noticed a lot of hearthstone card art is /beg/ tier. Is it just about who you know?

[Anonymous No.3098054]

>>3098051
Yes, art, like most creative endeavors is so over-saturated that it is all about connections and networks

[Anonymous No.3098059]

constructing figures from ref

[Anonymous No.3098070]

>>3098059
Loomis

[Anonymous No.3098081]

>>3081162
How to draw the fuckin hair reeee

[Anonymous No.3098082]

So I doodled two entire pages in my little sketchbook earlier, and haven't found the courage to continue doodling/exercising. Halp.

[Anonymous No.3098086]

>>3098051

hearthstone is all about flashy colorful rendering. They don't go ballistic if you have anatomical or perspective error. If you have the same level of rendering skills and a good grasp of fundamentals you'll be above these maggots. The next thing is to network. Get yourself out there. Make friends with other artist who work in the company.

[Anonymous No.3098088]

>>3098082
Go look at your favorite art or artist. Motivate yourself just enough to kick-start yourself into discipline mode.

[Anonymous No.3098091]

trying to draw my hand

[Anonymous No.3098093]

>>3098081
is that david lynch?

[Anonymous No.3098098]

>>3098091

[Anonymous No.3098101]

>>3098088
>picture of Hitler
>88
hol' up

[Anonymous No.3098104]

Is my tiddy too big

[Anonymous No.3098106]

>>3097802

Profile is the easiest because you only have to do one side.

[Anonymous No.3098108]

>>3098093
Yes anon

[Anonymous No.3098113]

>>3098108
i thought so :) his hair is very tricky because its awesome lol. try blocking in the shapes then filling it in.

[Anonymous No.3098117]

[Anonymous No.3098127]

>>3098015

You aren't supposed to understand where his limbs are. The whole point of doing it upside down is to focus on the lines, their length, orientation etc. Not to 'draw an arm' but draw lines that all contribute to represent an arm.

[Anonymous No.3098130]

>>3098098
longer lines. make em swooshy

[Anonymous No.3098137]

[Anonymous No.3098139]

>>3098081
Some nice dimensional hatching in here. The chicken fence hatching isn't working though.

[Anonymous No.3098163]

>>3097701
I tried to paint for the first time digitally,5 hours later I got this far... I'm too shit at the photo bash and color picking meme so I just guessed and messed around with the colors like an idiot. How bad is it doc?

[Anonymous No.3098164]

Did i fuck something up? Composition, perspective or something that strikes out somehow.

[Anonymous No.3098171]

>>3098163
>painting for the 1st time
>already this good with color
damnit, the i guess the talent meme is real

[Anonymous No.3098172]

>>3098164
>Did i fuck something up
no back ground

i think the one on the left is just a little short.

[Anonymous No.3098175]

>>3098130
>>3098098
>>3098091
getting used to tablet is tough

[Anonymous No.3098176]

>>3098163

Colours are good but draughtmanship is poor.

[Anonymous No.3098181]

>>3098163
Huh. I guess I just need a little more practice then. My draughtsmanship isn't as good on screen as it is on canvas, so I guess I just have to get used to it. Didn't expect my colors to be good though, that was a surprise

[Anonymous No.3098186]

>>3098163

Good eye for color. Clean your edges and pay attention to proportion. Yours is slightly bigger/wider than the ref.

[Anonymous No.3098187]

Just finished this one now. Done with mouse. Critique would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.3098190]

>>3098186
Dang, looking at the thumbnail makes that really obvious. Guess that teaches me not to zoom in too much, thanks for the crit.

[Anonymous No.3098193]

>>3098163
This pick is from color and light and I always keep it in mind. color's 'live' in specific value/saturation combinations. A 'bright' red that is about 50 value is likely to be very close to 100 saturation. yellow lives at 80 value/100 saturation. 'pure' greens and blues live in 30 value/100 saturation

[Anonymous No.3098201]

>>3098033
Hello cute girl. Thank you for the neck exercise.

[Anonymous No.3098203]

My recent portraiture, critique appreciated. id like to draw male faces more but suck at drawing facial hair.

[Anonymous No.3098208]

>>3098203
reference

[Anonymous No.3098218]

>>3084757

[Anonymous No.3098223]

>>3098193
Interesting. I already kinda knew that colors had values that were darker and lighter than others but I still only had a vague understanding of it. Will have to check out this "Color and Light" book then.

[Anonymous No.3098225]

>>3098218
i really like the pose, nice shading as well. i cant help but feel her right hand is too wide.

[Anonymous No.3098228]

>>3098218
Both the hands and feet are too small.

[Anonymous No.3098236]

>>3098203
why did you make her a Simpsons character

[Anonymous No.3098237]

Do i have a future?

[Anonymous No.3098240]

>>3098218

Where's your wrist?

[Anonymous No.3098245]

>>3098236
Terrible camera. Its also on macaroni coloured invite card

[Anonymous No.3098248]

>>3098237
Yes. Don't fall for the box meme- use it only for nonorganic things and setting perspective grids inside cubes(Krenz tutorials). I'd say at this point start doing master studies of sketches of animu artists you like if possible as opposed to copying finished works from them. Guarantee you'll learn a thing or two and you can jump to finished pieces quickly once you got the drawing aspect down.

[Anonymous No.3098250]

>>3098203

[Anonymous No.3098256]

wip, are the legs too thicc and have i fucked up anywhere else?

[Anonymous No.3098278]

>>3098225
>>3098228
>>3098240
Thanks for the feedback

[Anonymous No.3098291]

man i thought drawing from the back would be easier

[Anonymous No.3098294]

>>3098256
everything is fucked up

L O O M I S
O
O
M
I
S

[Anonymous No.3098300]

>>3098291
I imagine its not.

[Anonymous No.3098306]

>>3098291
You're doing a good job. Ideally drawing from every angle should be the same level of difficulty since it all comes down to viewing the same forms just from different perspectives. But obviously we have an inclination to find drawing from the front easier because we're used to looking at things head on.

[Anonymous No.3098315]

>>3096902
>anime as the op image
REEEEEE

[Anonymous No.3098327]

I like drawing hands. I'm not good at it but it's still kinda fun.

[Anonymous No.3098328]

>>3098327

[Anonymous No.3098331]

I might make it one day lads, but today is not today

[Anonymous No.3098333]

QUICK

DRAW THIS BUG

[Anonymous No.3098334]

>>3098104
looking cool

[Anonymous No.3098349]

>>3098327
Draw the fingers as jointed sections. My hands look good now.

[Anonymous No.3098353]

>>3098328
unironically one of the most cancerous references I have ever seen

[Anonymous No.3098354]

>>3098353
It's from a gif that was on the front page of reddit today

[Anonymous No.3098356]

>>3098354
The hands are a nightmare to draw

[Anonymous No.3098360]

>>3098331
heads too bug

>>3098353
draw on a bigger canvas

>>3098354
how is that relevant?

[Anonymous No.3098364]

First attempt at completely from imagination posing and rendering, any feedback?

No legs yet because I haven't gotten that far in the book I'm reading, same with expression and faces, neck to thighs is all I can draw for now.

[Anonymous No.3098367]

>>3098364
wrf book are you reading? this anatomy is questionable at best.

[Anonymous No.3098372]

>>3098367
It's a work in progress, I'm still a lot of poses, studies and reading before making it, I usually make digital studies after reading books for practice, I just gave rendering a shot because I feel like now at least my work looks "human". If everything goes well I should be better at bodies and ready to begin CTRL paint's lectures the first week of September.

Please point out what's wrong with the perspective, by the way.

[Anonymous No.3098380]

>>3098372
what book are you r e a d i n g
i never even mentioned perspective. like if youre doing a lot of studies i question the source material because barely any study should be better than that

[Anonymous No.3098382]

>>3098380
I am not telling you until you tell me what's wrong, I don't even know why would you want to know what I'm reading.

[Anonymous No.3098384]

>>3098382
go wallow alone then

[Anonymous No.3098385]

>>3098384
Probably for the better, you probably had nothing to teach anyone anyway.

[Anonymous No.3098387]

>>3096902
So I asked last thread and got nothing, so I give it a go again.
I've been practicing on and off for just over a year, and peak into these threads quite a bit and finally felt like posting something I made.
Second attempt shading and first attempt painting, all one layer painted, 2 layers total because I'm lazy and didn't want to manage layers.
Made this thing back in march and never finished it and probably won't, but it's no where near finished, so i know it needs highlights and such.

So my question is, what's the damage and what should I do to fix it?

[Anonymous No.3098391]

>>3098387
Learn how color and light works.
You should focus on clarity, there are a lot of ambiguous forms you seem to be afraid to render out properly.

[Anonymous No.3098396]

>>3098248
>master study
>animu

TOP! KEK!

[Anonymous No.3098405]

>>3098396
Yusuke Murata and Kentaro Miura are some of the most skilled and talented artists out there. Your ignorant opinion is invalid.

[Anonymous No.3098407]

>>3098391
Yea, I'm working on that.
Still trying to figure out some what dim lighting on dark colors, like towards the mouth.
And by ambiguous shapes, you mean like, that bat and torso? The only thing that's actually somewhat rendered is the head. I didn't get to work on it much.

[Anonymous No.3098408]

Should I stop trying to draw cartoony?

[Anonymous No.3098410]

>>3098407
Stop using back to color, it looks muddy.
See this anon's post, he actually can paint well and he generously spared some time to help you idiots learn basic color theory. >>3097589

[Anonymous No.3098414]

>>3097701
kek, you're over here and you can't even figure out how to blend right and this anon
>>3098163
already can color well despite being a nooby with digital. how can you be so incompetent compared to a beginner, are you secretly brian?

[Anonymous No.3098421]

>>3098364
2nd try

Any feedback is appreciated

[Anonymous No.3098422]

Alright fellas. Day one of Anatomy drawing. This is gonna be a bit ugly, but I'd love feedback on what I can do better.
Fuck Shoulders
Fuck Abs
Fuck Hands

I tried doing a skull ref, but I didn't end up following it

[Anonymous No.3098434]

>>3098410
Woops, I just realized I posted the version where a friend messed with the contrast. Looking at the original on a different screen, I can see the over saturation and how off the contrast is
Here's the actual version freshly saved.
I didn't use black to shade, I used different shades of navy and a single layer to paint. 2 layers total, one with the initial shapes then paint, another for rough details and outlines over that, since I know people do flat colors and shade over it on another layer.
I know I have a lot to learn with color theory and such, but no need to be rude.

also
>"...generously spared some time to help you idiots learn... "
isn't that the point of this entire thread?

[Anonymous No.3098437]

>>3098364
What the fuck that is not a vagina

[Anonymous No.3098442]

>>3098421
feels blurry. needs a focal point. arm is weird. try using a hard brush

[Anonymous No.3098449]

Why won't anyone respond to my art? Fuck you

[Anonymous No.3098455]

>>3098449
where's your art? No one here has to reply. No one's going to want to with that attitude.

[Anonymous No.3098457]

>>3098455
>>3098408

[Anonymous No.3098470]

>>3098408
>>3098457
It's only been up for an hour, that's not that long. Here goes anyway, godspeed anon:

Overall it looks good. Hands are stiff/awkward respectively. The flow from the focacl point at the face to the foot is nice, but having the hand with the hat out unbalances the image somewhat. Hands are low effort to the point that I'm not sure if they're rushed for the sake of being quick or because if you put effort into acutually drawing them, they wouldn't look right. The sidwats shoe is a w2eird shape, the heel 'bounces' out. Most shoes (even modern ones) don't have that kind of shape because it would be very uncomfortable. Shirt pocket doesn't convey much form. The face is kinda ugly tb h. Looks like he's yawning rather than singing. The dramatic lighting in the rest of the figure is not consistent in the face.

First glance it looks fine, but it starts to break down the longer you look at it.

As for whether you should continue to draw in a cartoony fashion - it's up to you. Draw cartoons if you like that. Don't if you don't. It's not that hard.

[Anonymous No.3098476]

>>3098470
Thanks for the in depth crits, I greatly appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.3098480]

I'm trying to learn figure drawing/anatomy. How terrible are these? Any tips?

[Anonymous No.3098490]

>>3098364
Is that a pussy or a masserati badge?

[Anonymous No.3098496]

I tried to do the first test in the sticky,did I do okay and put the lines relativly okay for a first drawing? I asked this before but I can t find the original post.

[Anonymous No.3098503]

>>3098476
Ayy that's better anon. You're welcome :)

>>3098480
Couple iof things. Scratchy lines really take away from the confidence of your work, you could draw the whole figure out of the lines you used for one section of the leg. Poses are stiff - try drawing with curved lines and see howit comes out. Need to add some meat and make them actually human before I can give you any more advice.

If you're looking for resources, Proko and Vilppu are good places to start, or the Sculptor's Guide to anatomy if you don't want your information muddied up by instructions.

[Anonymous No.3098509]

>>3098496
Looks alright, good for a first try. Some of the major issues are the head (there's no mass at the back) and your measurements in general (the gap in the jacket, the angle of the arm of the chair). There are also a couple of issues with size - the kerchief in the pocket and the extended index finger for example.

Good start. You're gonna make it anon.

[Anonymous No.3098512]

>>3098503
I'll try draw less scratchy lines. I think its mainly because I have a hard time telling if the proportions are right so I keep going over it.

I started reading a figure drawing book by Michael Hampton but I'm having a really hard time following everything as I can't seem to draw anything well

[Anonymous No.3098524]

>>3098509
Got it .Thanks for answearing !

[Anonymous No.3098543]

>>>3098539
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>>>3098539
>>>3098539
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>>>3098539
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[Anonymous No.3098955]

>>3097272
Much better weight and rhythm, though the angle on top of the left heel should be sharp since that joint folds inwards

[Anonymous No.3099164]

>>3098020
Looks so easy.
At least, easier than watercolor.

[Anonymous No.3099167]

is this pose correct? some tips?

[Anonymous No.3099372]

>>3099167
Chest looks abnormal, I can't tell because of the lack of reference though and I'd say make sure to measure a lot more.

[Anonymous No.3099977]

>>3096939
I like it. Good Work!!!

[Anonymous No.3100507]

>>3097562
>Trash
Its actually really good.