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Anonymous Tue Jul 25 02:53:51 2017 No.3073019 [Reply] [Original]

Why the fuck is drawing so fucking hard goddamn it? I've been trying to draw my shoes for 6 hours and it looks like utter shit. Fuck you Bert Dodson and your shit book

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:03:52 2017 No.3073022 If you're unironically frustrated at this stage just stop. Art is not for you if this is your attitude. Go play a moba.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:06:13 2017 No.3073024
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>>3073019
its all about figuring out how you learn, and what your strengths/weaknesses are. And then practice with a daily routine. art is hard work and you have to study it/practice it like any other skill. Gl my man

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:13:43 2017 No.3073027 >>3073022 What should be my attitude, how do I stop feeling frustrated for no reason? Being s perfectionist has always killed me

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:14:58 2017 No.3073028 >>3073024 How did you figure out your routine?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:21:26 2017 No.3073031 >>3073027 Just as any other craft you have to love the act of drawing first and not the end product.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:24:54 2017 No.3073035

>>3073027
Perfectionism is the killer of progress. A fuck load of "eh, not good but learned something" drawings is better than minimal amount of good or better. Just learn to deal with the frustration loop. Noticing that you're in the loop is good enough reason to stop the current drawing and start the next drawing.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 03:25:32 2017 No.3073036

>>3073028
i would start by looking into http://www.proko.com/how-to-draw-videos/

and just start from the basics chances are you haven't even spent 1 week drawing shapes and lines yet and if you can draw basic shapes like a circle right how are you going to know how types of lines and shapes make more complex ones

and once you have mastered shapes just study what ever you want Perspective/Horizons/figure drawing/animation ect

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 10:50:20 2017 No.3073258

>>3073019
>>3073027

You sort of don't. It's great if you enjoy the process of drawing even if your drawings aren't even good, but for a lot of folks you just have to fight through the frustration by establishing a routine and learning how to gradually pinpoint your flaws.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:03:01 2017 No.3073660 >>3073019 try tracing a picture of fucking shoes first you fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:05:44 2017 No.3073665 What kind of an unimaginative retard would draw his own shoes? I'd be salty too if I had to draw my own shoes all day. Also you better take them off before drawing them or you're going to have a cramp in your neck.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:10:22 2017 No.3073670

>>3073022

>If you're unironically frustrated at this stage just stop.

If you say you weren't unironically frustrated when you first started art (or since) you've either got the patience of a saint or you're full of shit, I venture it's the latter. Being a beginner at anything can be frustrating, especially something with feedback that so clearly demonstrates how bad you are at it and makes you feel like a child.

It took me months to start drawing anything I was remotely satisfied with. It was frustrating. Some days it remains frustrating. Being a good artist isn't about not getting frustrated, I've never in my life heard of an actually good artist who claims they've never had bad days. Being a good artist is about overcoming the frustration.

And if you've actually never once been frustrated at art I'd love to see your work, because you're probably either very skilled or don't give a shit about your craft.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:12:47 2017 No.3073674 >>3073665 It's an exercise from Bert Dodson's Keys to Drawing. Also, stop being a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:14:04 2017 No.3073675 >>3073019 Blame yourself instead of the book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:15:29 2017 No.3073676 >>3073674 Sounds like boring tedious shit to me. Like drawing your own face from a mirror or drawing your own hands. Is this some kind of drawing exercise for convicts in solitary confinement?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 17:35:54 2017 No.3073695 >>3073676 >drawing your face from a mirror or drawing your own hands is boring tedious shit >implying it's bad and you shouldn't do it Are you fucking retarded

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 19:50:18 2017 No.3073860 >>3073695 The worst thing a beginner can do is to start with these mindnumbing excuses for an exercise. He'd have more fun drawing cubes. And he'd probably learn more in the process.

Anonymous Tue Jul 25 21:19:33 2017 No.3073967

>>3073019
Bruh you have to accept that your drawing will be shit. If you hold yourself back for fear of imperfection you'll never get it fucking done. The point of that exercise is building hand eye coordination, not drawing shoes. Even the example in the book looks like shit, because it doesn't matter what it looks like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 25 22:43:08 2017 No.3074050 >>3073019 Some people just aren't meant to be artists.

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 20:05:43 2017 No.3075159

>>3074050
People don't understand this and it's so ridiculous. The vast majority of posters on this board literally don't have what's needed in one form or another to excel in art, but they keep smashing their heads against a brick wall and getting mad about it. If drawing brings you this level of anger constantly and you're showing no improvement after a long amount of time spent doing dedicated work, fucking try something else already

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 20:27:00 2017 No.3075184 >>3075159 I want to git gud. It hurts to be that bad even though I started two days and never picked up a pencil before. it feels like an impossible mountain to climb

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 20:31:01 2017 No.3075190 >>3075184 mountain climbers don't climb mount everest for their first time. set your expectations low. don't compare yourself to the other artists that have been drawing for a long time. you're a noob. accept this fact and git gud.

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 20:31:47 2017 No.3075191

>>3075159
>>3074050

The "muh talent" meme. I bet you retards think that most people are just "naturally bad" at math and aren't just stuck with shitty education.

There is NOTHING stopping anyone from at the very least becoming competent in art. Not everyone can become a genius, but talent is the "muh fat genetics" of /ic/.

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 20:42:33 2017 No.3075209

>>3075159
I'm a special snowflake because im good at art! Nobody can just practice art! Its something you have to be born with! Like me! Im an artist!! Look at me!

Fucking off yourself you faggot, I wouldnt want to look at your shallow braindead art anyway

Anonymous Wed Jul 26 23:49:35 2017 No.3075357

>>3075184
I wanted to be a rock star, and play guitar. I started learning when I was 15, and played every day. I studied everything I could get my hands on, I learned to play songs by ear, I learned music theory, I worked my butt off to get better gear.
But in the end, I had to admit, I wasn't very good. I couldnt express myself the way I wanted through a guitar, like I could on paper. So I embraced the fact that I'm an artist, not a guitarist. No matter how many scales I played, I wasn't gonna make it.

Once I embraced that, and went back to art full time - I started to enjoy playing the guitar. I don't care that I can't play like the pros - just playing was good enough, for a hobby.

Art may not be for you, no matter how much you want it. Not everyone can be an artist. You may never be a professional artist, but if you drop the expectations and dreams, you may find a way to enjoy it as a hobby.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 23:50:46 2017 No.3075359 >>3075191 Doing math is not the same as having talent at art. If you think there's no such thing as talent, that means you don't have any.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 26 23:52:32 2017 No.3075360 >>3075191 nobody is naturally good at anything. They just have natural aptitude that makes certain things easier.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 00:32:39 2017 No.3075384 >>3073019 Most of you are probably thinking wow this guy sucks, Meanwhile I'm thinking thank god I'm not the only one

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 00:41:32 2017 No.3075387 >>3073019 SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID FUCK. NOBODY CARES ABOUT HOW IMPATIENT YOU ARE TO LEARN. FUCKING IDIOT.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 02:05:04 2017 No.3075447 when you feel like drawing, draw. when you don't feel like drawing, then draw something shitty and when you're done you either get to say "this is shitty but i love it" or "this is shitty and i hate it", but at least you drew something

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 02:06:30 2017 No.3075448 File: 251 KB, 611x724, merc wip sketch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3075209 You seem a little upset, how's your art career doing? Talent/aptitude isn't real and mindless is everything, so I'd love to see some of your work

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 02:07:32 2017 No.3075449 >>3075448 *mindless grinding, I mean

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 02:35:13 2017 No.3075458 >>3073019 Post your shoes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 02:40:09 2017 No.3075461 >>3075458 5th try gave up midway. I can't see my laces

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 02:41:04 2017 No.3075463 File: 166 KB, 750x1000, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>3075461 fuck im retarded

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 02:46:48 2017 No.3075468 File: 66 KB, 1418x1164, muhshus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hey man why dont you start with something simpler

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 02:49:44 2017 No.3075469 >>3075468 That looks useless, what am I supposed to learn?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 03:00:44 2017 No.3075474 >>3075469 that when you're learning smaller problems help you more than a really big one, specially when you struggle solving the latter

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 27 07:44:22 2017 No.3075603 >>3075463 Just draw cute anime girls instead

Anonymous Thu Jul 27 14:54:08 2017 No.3075891
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>>3075469
>why am I having so much fucking trouble drawing this thing, why is it so hard???
>*suggested to try drawing a simpler form of the thing first*
>that's useless, what could I learn from doing that???? now tell my why drawing this more complex thing is harder!!
NGMI

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 28 00:24:34 2017 No.3076548 >>3073019 You are quitter! Quitter boy! Quitter boy!

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